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Batanes bishop tells anti-RH Catholics: God will finish the war for us!

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Pro-RH bill supporters celebrate victory of the passage of the measure. AP

MANILA, Philippines — Batanes Bishop Camilo Gregorio has urged Catholics against the reproductive health (RH) bill, which Congress passed on Tuesday, not to lose heart, saying God “will finish the war for us!”

“God has a good plan for us. He tolerated (the Church) losing the battle to purify all of us. It is saddening but God will finish the war for us. We did our best,” Gregorio told Church-run Radio Veritas.

Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, Nueva Ecija Bishop Roberto Mallari, Urdaneta Bishop Jacinto Jose and Digos Bishop Guillermo Afable also told the Church radio station that the passage of the bill in Congress was a “sad day” in the country.

“The future will tell who has acted wisely or not,” said Lagdameo, a former president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines.

Afable said it was saddening that many Catholic lawmakers did not listen to the appeals of the Church on the RH bill.

“The majority of lawmakers who were Catholic Christians did not accept the truth of God about the RH bill that was explained by the leaders of the Church. It is sad to see the kind of faith of our politicians. Did they also win by approving this?” Afable said.

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad urged Catholics to continue with their prayers but added that the public should also accept what happened if it was the “will of God.”

Calling the RH bill a “moral time bomb wrapped” as a Christmas gift, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas called on Catholics on Tuesday to come together and work for the country’s progress.

In a statement, titled “Let us move on!,” Villegas, a friend of President Aquino’s family, said the outcome of the RH vote set “a time for soul searching and prayers.”

“This is a time for peacemaking. We might not see eye to eye but we can work hand in hand for the real progress that your people so richly deserve,” Villegas said in a message to his flock in Pangasinan.

“It is a progress with God, in God and through God. Daang matuwid (referring to Mr. Aquino’s famous slogan `The straight path.’) without God is a dead-end street. Only with God can we see real progress of peoples,” he added.

Villegas said that “conscience attempted to speak” when the Senate and the House of Representatives “but it has been stifled!”

“They might have won through the tyranny of numbers but it does not mean that they are right. It is only a matter of time and then we will see more violations of `Thou shall not kill’ and `Thou shall not commit adultery’ among our families, our youth and children,” Villegas said.

“If the President will sign this into law, he will give us a moral time bomb wrapped as a gift to celebrate Christmas. This law will open more doors to abortion and more crimes against women,” he added.

Other prelates also blasted the RH bill.

Masbate Bishop Jose Bantolo, said on Tuesday in a text message to the Inquirer, that he has always been and would continue to be opposed to the RH Bill. “[But] the Congress passed it, [then] so be it,” he said.

“The Church remains steadfast on [its] mission to protect life and safeguard the welfare of the unborn child and women and mothers,” said Bantolo.

Msgr. Felix Pasquin, rector of the San Sebastián Cathedral in Bacolod City, said the approval did not bode well for the Filipinos.

“This is Good Friday at Christmastime. We witness again the betrayal of Jesus Christ and his teachings on the sanctity of life and family life,” Pasquin said.

He also noted that “13,” considered an “unlucky number,” was in the winning votes of 113 and 133 on the second and third reading of the RH bill  in the House and 13 in the Senate. With reports from Jonas Cabiles Soltes, Inquirer Southern Luzon; Carla Gomez and Joey Gabieta, Inquirer Visayas


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  • Kowboy5

    “Either God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn’t care to, or he doesn’t exist. God is either impotent, evil, or imaginary. Take your pick, and choose wisely.The only sense to make of tragedies like this is that terrible things can happen to perfectly innocent people. This understanding inspires compassion.Religious faith, on the other hand, erodes compassion. Thoughts like, “this might be all part of God’s plan,” or “there are no accidents in life,” or “everyone on some level gets what he or she deserves” – these ideas are not only stupid, they are extraordinarily callous. They are nothing more than a childish refusal to connect with the suffering of other human beings. It is time to grow up and let our hearts break at moments like this.”

    ― Sam Harris

  • adriel0104

    yung mga pro-RH kung may darating na trahedya isisi kaagad sa Diyos.Paano ang mga tao mapaprotektahan sa Diyos kung ang mga tao mismo ang magsabi na ,hoy Diyos huwag mong pakialaman ang buhay namin at saka yung sa gobyerno sabihin ,hoy Diyos wala kang pakialam/karapatan sa pamumuno namin sa gobyerno.Ang Diyos hindi nya ipilit ang sarili nya sa mga tao na ayaw sa kanya..

    • pej1972

      On the contrary, yun pong mga Bishop ang nagconnect kay Pablo sa RH Bill, hindi po ang Pro-RH Group.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       ikaw na rin mismo ang nagsabi: “kung”  Layo mo na agad. plus, you put words into someone else’s mouth…. tama si PEJ, pari mismo nagkabit ke pablo sa rh…

      • rinom

        kahit na sinong mag  kabit kay Pablo hindi mo maisasatabi na ang hangin o bagyo ay babala ang Diyos at ang lindol naman ay galit (wrath) ng Diyos.  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

        funny

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZUGKMNYSK2ZSSS4B2LVNDWP5XM lagalag

    Shut up Bishop. Don’t use GOD for your own benefits, HIS against war. Accept defeat.

  • adriel0104

    I hope yung mga pro-RH na catholic ay magrenounce sila sa catholic faith!

    • pej1972

      History repeat itself, kung maoobserbahan mo, nangyayari na sinasabi mo kahit noon wala pang RH. This time, expect the numbers to increase.

    • Mark Philip Wu

      If nobody ever questioned the Catholic church, we’d all be convinced that the sun revolved around the Earth. They are men, just like any other one of us. They are no more wiser or more insightful into the truth as any other person, or less prone to mistakes

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IFQFNCLJ4C3LHJKNXRP75VGEMU John Y

      they should be asking those priests to do that! catholics are disappointed with the MANAGEMENT of the religion, not the religion itself, just as filipinos are angry with how local politicians are running the country but do not hate the country itself. 

      even theologians, who have thoroughly studied the subject of god, jesus and the bible, disagree with many of the church’s official statements and actions, because they of all people should clearly see through all the BS the church is giving to its people. even to people who just studied the basics, the life and teachings of jesus, should be able to tell that the church’s actions throughout history and even today have contradicted the message of jesus, and yet they continue to demand obedience from followers, possibly forcing them to violate jesus’ teachings themselves.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7US4SIEZOJLP4A3BQLYYDY6UWQ Kim

    majority of the legislators are catholic..why not excommunicate them if they disobeyed your doctrines….

    • indiosbravos2002

      This will just make the church more irrelevant. How about the congressmen retaliating by tsxing the church. They lost the Rh Bill and Pacquiao. I hope they dnt lose more members.

  • TwiggyRamirez

    “Batanes bishop tells anti-RH Catholics: God will finish the war for us!”

    …anong klaseng god meron itong bishop na ‘to? mukhang war freak!

  • pej1972

    The leaders of the Church are really disappointing, they should be preaching compassion and humility to their flocks specially at this time. It seems that their old strategy implemented during the Crusades that cost lot of lives have not changed. Now they talk of war and superstitions.

  • Mark Philip Wu

    “He tolerated (the Church) losing the battle to purify all of us”
    Ha, purify you… for fighting for against the RH Bill? These bishops, they’ll twist any turn of events into a sign that God is in favor of what they’re doing. There’s rain? Heaven is crying. There’s a typhoon? It’s a sign from God. Never mind that we’re a country that gets typhoons EVERY YEAR

  • Sinugba

    This bishop need to see a psychologist. Not only him, a lot more of tribe.

  • MULEN

    The Catholic god is weird. This is the same god who commanded the Roman Catholic Church to impose the Inquisition. This is the same god who ordered the RCC to acquiesce to the wishes of the Fascists and Nazis in World War II. Now this god wants nothing to do with women’s rights to reproductive health. 

    • mang_empoy

      You have a twisted idea of God as understood by catholics. Everything you said is not the God we worship. That is your idea, not ours.

      • MULEN

        Unfortunately, your priests and bishops use the name of god in justifying for the imposition of the Grand Inquisition whereby the accused heretics were persecuted and many were tortured and killed by guillotine and burning at stake. These went on for centuries. Quite incredibly, some of the Grand Inquisitors were canonized and carry the honor of being called saints, i.e., Peter the Martyr, John Capistran, Peter Arbues and Pius V. Weird, ain’t it?

      • simondj

        again why live in the past,, absolutely you are correct because you are just reading/stating the history. and because of that the people now does not want the state and the church to combine, that is why we have this separation of church and state.. your task now is to prove that RH BILL will elliminate poverty. in which i do not agree becuase it increases immorality.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

        it is the truth,.please read the history of the inquisition and i assure you you will change your mind about your church.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

      How do you know history from manalo?

      • MULEN

         Weird question from a weird guy. 

    • simondj

      why live in the past? we know they have done that and God allows it, and the people who framed the US constitution made it clear that the state shall not recognize any religion (separation of church and state).  

  • quirinomayer

    “Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, Nueva Ecija Bishop Roberto Mallari, Urdaneta Bishop Jacinto Jose and Digos Bishop Guillermo Afable also told the Church radio station that the passage of the bill in Congress was a “sad day” in the country. ”

    Sad day for Padre Damaso and his miniscule fundamentalist following. The country is not Padre Damaso.

    They also predicted dire consequences when the Rizal Law was passed but of course, Padre Damaso is the boy who cried wolf.

    Don’t mind the whinings of a bully who finally got his just desserts. Let’s just celebrate our belated freedom from the clutches of Padre Damaso.

  • UrHONOR

    >>> Batanes Bishop Camilo Gregorio has urged Catholics against the reproductivehealth (RH) bill, which Congress passed on Tuesday, not to lose heart, saying God “will finish the war for us!”<<<

    IT's then THAT or…YOU are finished with your god and with the people of the Philippines.  How callous this Gregorio to pit god against a bill!  Thou shalt not take the name of the lord thy god in vain.  At every turn, when running out of reasonable arguments, the idea that god is something that could be readily be snatched from the pockets of their white gowns for their own personal use is invariably flaunted. Very vain.  Very, very vain.

    • joshmale2004

      Clearly, they are using God to scare God’s people. Very Self Serving Indeed.

      • UrHONOR

        Well said. But I know that will not be for long, as more and more kabayans are waking up to the reality that THEY are after all just as human as anyone with no special powers nor SPECIAL TIES to the supernatural or to anything else of significance (except financial institutions) and whose morality leaves much to be desired.

  • filipinaskoh

    BISHOPS! BISHOPS!

    Why you kept on claiming God as if God belongs to you alone.
    You are no any different from the PHARISEES in Jesus time- kept on proclaiming themselves as RIGHTEOUS and HOLY, claiming as GOD sent and chosen by GOD-

    AND YET THEIR WAYS ARE TOO FAR FROM WHAT GOD REQUIRES OF THEM!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

      very true!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

      Your funny you dont even know who give us the bible

      • indiosbravos2002

        Baka “gave”. Hihihi. Para di OT. Aber, ano naman relationship ng bible dito?

      • ryan andres

        nag open ng account yan ser para mamburaot…tignan mo 15 comments pa lang.

        Baka boyfriend ng obispo at hindi makatanggap na talunan sila.

    • simondj

      then show that God is in your side. or at least give your reasons why it is not with them.

  • MelorisV

    These bishops and priests are so obsessed with the unborn. I wonder will these pulpits pay for all the bills of those they’ve brainwashed and deprived of from the RH bill. Then by all means I’ll root for the anti-RH bill. If not they should shut up, admit their defeat, reflect on their error and work together with the government to make this bill effective. 

    Just imagine, ask the bishops & priest if they will shoulder the monthly check-up of the mother let’s just say only those people in the slums, forget about us middle class. Let’s start from (baby still in womb), vitamins, milk for the mother, proper sustenance, etc. and when the baby is delivered unto this world, will they pay for the hospital bills, the milk, diapers, baby food, immunization, monthly check-up, etc. How about schooling? Clothing  Shelter?  I guess these bishops & priest are all talk and no action. 

  • quirinomayer

    Friend, take time to read  I Kings 18. The event recorded has a strong resemblance with what happened in the RH Bill contest starring the CBCP.  The CBCP are like the prophets of Baal in the story. They pray a lot but they are not connected with God whom they presume to speak for  so God does not listen to them.

    18 After many days the word of the Lord came to Elijah, in the third year, saying, “Go, show yourself to Ahab, and I will send rain upon the earth.” 2 So Elijah went to show himself to Ahab. Now the famine was severe in Samaria. 3 And Ahab called Obadiah, who was eover the household. (Now Obadiah feared the Lord greatly, 4 and fwhen Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord, Obadiah took a hundred prophets and hid them by fifties in a cave and fed them with bread and water.) 5 And
    Ahab said to Obadiah, “Go through the land to all the springs of water
    and to all the valleys. Perhaps we may find grass and save the horses
    and mules alive, and not lose some of the animals.” 6 So
    they divided the land between them to pass through it. Ahab went in one
    direction by himself, and Obadiah went in another direction by himself.

    7 And
    as Obadiah was on the way, behold, Elijah met him. And Obadiah
    recognized him and fell on his face and said, “Is it you, my lord
    Elijah?” 8 And he answered him, “It is I. Go, tell your lord, ‘Behold, Elijah is here.’” 9 And he said, “How have I sinned, that you would give your servant into the hand of Ahab, to kill me? 10 gAs the Lord
    your God lives, there is no nation or kingdom where my lord has not
    sent to seek you. And when they would say, ‘He is not here,’ he would
    take an oath of the kingdom or nation, that they had not found you. 11 And now you say, ‘Go, tell your lord, “Behold, Elijah is here.”’ 12 And as soon as I have gone from you, hthe Spirit of the Lord
    will carry you I know not where. And so, when I come and tell Ahab and
    he cannot find you, he will kill me, although I your servant have feared
    the Lord from my youth. 13 Has it not been told my lord what I did iwhen Jezebel killed the prophets of the Lord, how I hid a hundred men of the Lord’s prophets by fifties in a cave and fed them with bread and water? 14 And now you say, ‘Go, tell your lord, “Behold, Elijah is here”’; and he will kill me.” 15 And Elijah said, g“As the Lord of hosts lives, before whom I stand, I will surely show myself to him today.” 16 So Obadiah went to meet Ahab, and told him. And Ahab went to meet Elijah.

    17 When Ahab saw Elijah, Ahab said to him, j“Is it you, you ktroubler of Israel?” 18 And he answered, “I have not troubled Israel, but you have, and your father’s house, because you have labandoned the commandments of the Lord and mfollowed the Baals. 19 Now therefore send and gather all Israel to me at Mount nCarmel, and the o450 prophets of Baal and pthe 400 prophets of Asherah, qwho eat at Jezebel’s table.”

    The Prophets of Baal Defeated

    20 So Ahab sent to all the people of Israel and gathered the prophets together at Mount Carmel. 21 And Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long rwill you go limping between two different opinions? sIf the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” And the people did not answer him a word. 22 Then Elijah said to the people, t“I, even I only, am left a prophet of the Lord, but Baal’s prophets are u450 men. 23 Let
    two bulls be given to us, and let them choose one bull for themselves
    and cut it in pieces and lay it on the wood, but put no fire to it. And I
    will prepare the other bull and lay it on the wood and put no fire to
    it. 24 And you call upon the name of your god, and I will call upon the name of the Lord, and the God who vanswers by fire, he is God.” And all the people answered, “It is well spoken.” 25 Then
    Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose for yourselves one bull
    and prepare it first, for you are many, and call upon the name of your
    god, but put no fire to it.” 26 And
    they took the bull that was given them, and they prepared it and called
    upon the name of Baal from morning until noon, saying, “O Baal, answer
    us!” But there was no voice, and no one answered. And they limped around
    the altar that they had made. 27 And
    at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, “Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either
    he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or
    perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened.” 28 And they cried aloud and wcut themselves after their custom with swords and lances, until the blood gushed out upon them. 29 And as midday passed, they raved on until the time of xthe offering of the oblation, but there was no voice. No one answered; no one paid attention.

    30 Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come near to me.” And all the people came near to him. And he repaired the altar of the Lord that had been ythrown down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord came, saying, z“Israel shall be your name,” 32 and with the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord. And he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two seahs1 of seed. 33 aAnd he put the wood in order and cut the bull in pieces and laid it on the wood. And he said, “Fill four jars with water and bpour it on the burnt offering and on the wood.” 34 And
    he said, “Do it a second time.” And they did it a second time. And he
    said, “Do it a third time.” And they did it a third time. 35 And the water ran around the altar and filled the trench also with water.

    36 And at the time of cthe offering of the oblation, Elijah the prophet came near and said, “O Lord, dGod of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that eyou are God in Israel, and that I am your servant, and that fI have done all these things at your word. 37 Answer me, O Lord, answer me, that this people may know that you, O Lord, are God, and that you have turned their hearts back.” 38 gThen the fire of the Lord fell and consumed the burnt offering and the wood and the stones and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. 39 And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, h“The Lord, he is God; the Lord, he is God.” 40 And
    Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them
    escape.” And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to ithe brook Kishon and jslaughtered them there.

    The Lord Sends Rain

    41 And Elijah said to Ahab, “Go up, eat and drink, for there is a sound of the rushing of rain.” 42 So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel. kAnd he bowed himself down on the earth and put his face between his knees. 43 And
    he said to his servant, “Go up now, look toward the sea.” And he went
    up and looked and said, “There is nothing.” And he said, “Go again,”
    seven times. 44 And at the seventh time he said, “Behold, la
    little cloud like a man’s hand is rising from the sea.” And he said,
    “Go up, say to Ahab, ‘Prepare your chariot and go down, lest the rain
    stop you.’” 45 And in a little while the heavens grew black with clouds and wind, and there was a great rain. And Ahab rode and went to mJezreel. 46 nAnd the hand of the Lord was on Elijah, oand he gathered up his garment and ran before Ahab to the entrance of pJezreel.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

      Pastor sabihin mo yan sa mga angkan mong mga walang alam sa biblia maronong kapa ni scott hann search mo sa google SCOOT HANN

    • simondj

      malayo po ang sample na napili ninyo,,, dahil ngayon po ay talagang litong lito na ang mga tao,,, but i believe RH BILL will not solve poverty of the people but will worsen because of the problem in morality. one of the cause poverty is because the people practice immoraliy.

  • noypisiTED

    What war does this bishop mean? Hello, address that warmongering to China since where your diocese is located which is nearer to China might be the first one to be taken over in case it decides to invade Phil. territory. Don’t worry bishop we’re willing to turn you over to the Chinese as a war booty.

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    As I was going to Heaven high,
    I met a Priest with seven wives,
    Each wife had seven kids,
    Each kid had seven cats,
    Each cat had seven kits:
    Kits, cats, kids and wives,
    How many were going to Heaven high?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJLTJQBSNUX42Y7TAJE2ESGTAE emilio

    I suggest the catholic church excommunicate those congressmen who voted for the rh bill, and canonized those who voted against it. This way we will have numerous politicians who will eventually become saints. Let’s face it, they are now called “honorables” ,so it is very close to becoming “holiness”. Those excommunicated should be put on the rack and tortured ,they are supposed to be heretics thus deserve the wrath of god. This is what happened during the inquisition. There are also clergy who also support the rh bill. They should suffer the same fate.

    • indiosbravos2002

      If the church starts excommunicating people, Im sure mas maliit pa sa INC ang membership ng simbahan. From a Catholic nation to a Protestant one. Ang maeexcomunicate ng POPE sa idea mo… Si Tagle at mga current bishops. For losing members under their watch and undoing a church that has held the country for more than 500 years.

    • Luis Antonio Sereno

      Those who opposed the RH Bill are promoting chaos in Philippine society. Bravo to the members of congress and senate who bravery fought and passed this very important bill. NO MORE CHILDREN BEGGING IN THE STREETS! SIMPLY NO MORE HARDSHIPS FOR THE COMMON FILIPINOS. WHAT A GOOD LIFE AHEAD FOR THE FILIPINOS! GOD IS WITH US!!!

      • rinom

        false hope po iyan,,, if you are young, wait for ten years, and you will see, children begging in the streets will increase because of immorality.

  • tonto_ka

    Romans 13:1
    “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” 

    • rinom

      we follow God rather than man,,,

  • godofthunder16

    Baka di nila alam patay na si Rizal. Paki inform naman sila kung anong taon na o…

  • Diepor

    “They might have won through the tyranny of numbers. Its called democracy.

  • Albert Einstien

    “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.” Revelation 13:18

    MARK of the DEVIL……………..yellow ribbon……!

    yellow RIBBON symbol number equivalent is 666…
    ( symbols are used for SUBLIMINAL mind control ).

    yellow ribbon isa symbol for WAR,DEATH, CHAOS, SUICIDES, DISASTER…it is a sign of hardship & negative feelings…negative feelings give power& strength to EVIL..

    write 6 on a piece of paper = 6

    at the back write 6 at the same spot of the first 6 = 6

    turn it to front and trace second 6 = 6

    VIOLA! = 666

    ribbon symbol –the MARK- the KEY

    Tie a yellow ribbon song…in biblical sense

    Bus driver, please look for me’ Cause I couldn’t bear to see what I might see I’m( DEVIL ) really still in prison, and my love ( zombies ) she holds the KEY A simple yellow ribbon’s what I need to set me FREE…!

    yellow ribbon gives strength, summons & FREE the DEVIL…..!

    TRIVIA : 2 prominent figures with names number equivalent is 666 :

    miguel (6) tuason (6) arroyo (6)

    noynoy ( 6 ) simeon ( 6 ) Aquino ( 6 )

    • indiosbravos2002

      Ano to SUPERSTITION? Believing in numbers. Hoy bawal yan. Nagkakasala ka pare.
      Hehehe. Here is another good example why the ANTIRH are simply IRrelevant

  • indiosbravos2002

    Hay naku. Skip muna ko ng simba sa Linggo. Alam ko na sermo. Nakakarindi na.

    • UrHONOR

      PARA hindi nakakarindi ang mga sermon, ang magaling nyan ay lagyan ng numero ang lahat ng sermon…sermon 1, sermon 2, sermon 3l etc.  I-imprenta ang TNL na mga sermong ito at ipamigay sa lahat ng interesado.  Tapos, sa susunod na pagsesermon, ang gagawin ng magsesermon ay isisigaw na lamang nya ang numero ng sermon sa araw na yon, at tapos na ang dadaan.  Halimbawa:  ang sermon ngayon, mga kapatid ko sa panalangin ay numero 12. Tapos ang boksing.  Sa 10 minuto, uwian na…at hahaba ang mahjong o poker session ng TNL na mga pader.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NE4QYZRLABSMX5MKQHCVVTSAO4 taxj

    People like Bishop Camilo Gregorio makes people like Paquiao leave the Church. I’m not saying though that he did the right thing. It’s a leap from the frying pan into the fire. 

  • Luis Antonio Sereno

    These Bishops should instead keep their mouth shut. Even GOD would want this RH Bill be implemented.

    • rinom

      GOD IS THE SAME, YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. ,,WHEN HE SAID,, GO, AND MULTIPLY,, hindi po nagbabago iyan.

      • Luis Antonio Sereno

        Your understanding of “GO AND MULTIPLY” was too literal! But I don’t want to argue with that. I can say only this,” I don’t want to have more than two kids because they will end up begging in the streets. I don’t want to have more than two kids because I want a better future for them. Simple, I want to be a responsible parent because I care for their future!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/IFQFNCLJ4C3LHJKNXRP75VGEMU John Y

        Another poster conveniently leaving out “AND SUBDUE IT [THE EARTH]” -_-

  • indiosbravos2002

    Now I understand why a lot of Catholics leave the church. There is nothing wrong about the religion itself but more on the people running it. Personally, I lost a lot of respect for our distnguished bishops during the debates. Instead of answerng intelligently arguments thrown by the PRoRH, they resulted to threats, coercion, intimidation and lies. You cant sway votes by doing that. Siguro pre-internet days pwede pa, pero modern era na mga father.

  • rolandtr

    These Bishops are so irrelevant, anachronistic, medieval, pompous, and sooo out of touch with the times! It took them 4 centuries to apologize for what they did to Galileo. It took them 2 centuries to absorb and appreciate the scientific method. I can just imagine how long it will take them to accept the existential reality that poor young couples today need A STRONG government intervention to make a MORAL CHOICE regarding their sexual health issues and not be just a VICTIM OF ZERO CHOICE BECAUSE OF THEIR POVERTY which results in so many health complications for the poor wife and the uncared for children. I want to form my own Catholic Church! I still want my Virgin Mary. I still want my Saints. I still want my Holy Week. I still want my Christmas and the Simbang Gabi with it. BUT I AM AT THE THROES OF INTOLERANCE OF THESE BISHOPS AND THEIR BENIGHTED PARISH PRIESTS MINIONS WITH THEIR ANTI RH HOMILY, AS IF IT IS THE BE ALL AND THE END ALL OF FOLLOWING JESUS!

    • rinom

      IBIG MONG SABIHIN , MGA COUNTRY NA NAG PRACTICE NIYAN HINDI BUMAGSAK?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

        di nagunaw na sana ang mundo kung bumagsak ang mga bansang merong rh bill.come on get real.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

    Pabalik balik nalang ang mga tong nagco comment dito MERRY CHRISTMAS

  • Luis Antonio Sereno

    Those who opposed the RH Bill are promoting chaos in Philippine society. Bravo to the members of congress and senate who bravery fought and passed this very important bill. NO MORE CHILDREN BEGGING IN THE STREETS! SIMPLY NO MORE HARDSHIPS FOR THE COMMON FILIPINOS. WHAT A GOOD LIFE AHEAD FOR THE FILIPINOS! GOD IS WITH US!!!

    • rinom

      Jesus said,,, the poor will always be with you, but me you will not always have. FALSE HOPE PO IYAN NA KUNG I CONTROL MO POPULATION MEANS GOOD LIFE AHEAD.

      • Luis Antonio Sereno

        The RH Bill is made for pqrtners to have options to be a responsible parents for the future of their kids. OPTION means you’re given the choices to choose from. Not by force but your own will…

      • simondj

        then why waste time to put it as a law?

  • Ramil Abalon

    alam nyo itong mga pare na ito ay walang paki alam sa kalagayan ng mga pilipino babae ang hangad nila ay labag sa karapatan sa mga tao..kaya ang mga pareng ito ang sisira sa mga pilipino sila ang magbabaon sa kahirapan ng pilipinas…at kung ako ang susunod na Presidente pag babayarin ko ng tax ang mga ito…para makatulong sa mga pilipino ang bilion bilyong pero ng mga ito

  • andrew lim

    He also noted that “13,” considered an “unlucky number,” was in the winning votes of 113 and 133 on the second and third reading of the RH bill in the House and 13 in the Senate. – Msgr Felix Pasquin, Bacolod

    A Catholic priest who believes in numerology! ha ha ha

    If he really believes 13 is unlucky, then how about these:

    “Roman Catholic” – 13 letters – underdeveloped economy

    “Catholic voter” – 13 letters – non existent

    “Arch. Oscar Cruz” – 13 letters – always saying the wrong things

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS LANG AYAW SA R.H BILL CARNIVAL TAGLE SATANAS CBCP BISHOPS DAMASO!!!

    • simondj

      if you are lucky and still young,,, try to see what is going to happen to those country who practice RH LAW. observe lang po kayo.

  • ryan andres

    yeah, yeah. now all you damasos can go  f u c k  yourselves. Your reign of lies is over. You cannot hide the truth forever, and you most definitely cannot keep your flock ignorant anymore.

    Shackle their minds when they’re left on the cross…when ignorance reigns, life is lost…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MRHI267Q3IVUXRFU7PIOKBFSP4 docD

    “He also noted that “13,” considered an “unlucky number,” was in the
    winning votes of 113 and 133 on the second and third reading of the RH
    bill  in the House and 13 in the Senate.”  Religion is sometimes pure superstition.  I believe in a supreme being, an invinsible hand, but I also believe that I PUT MYSELF IN MY OWN PLACE.  Sa Diyos ang awa, Sa tao ang gawa ika nga nila.

  • ryan andres

    Hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon eh tama kayong mga pari at obispo… in fact, history has proven that most of the time you are wrong.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BFVHG62YMHHA7AIMGDCXTNKJJI The Truth

    What’s in the mind of these catholic prelates? What are they really up to?

    I can’t seem to understand their monstrous objections to the RH bill. Does the RH bill legalizes abortion? Limits each couple’s child?

    What crimes against women are they talking about?

    RH bill won by the tyranny of numbers? Is 14 years not enough to discuss this bill?

    Yes, for 14 years, these prelates were able to successfully lowered the tail of previous administration by the same propaganda of “Catholic/Conscience vote”. Enough is enough, this is no longer the spanish era, get out of the policies of government and the let the Filipino people decide their own future.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IFQFNCLJ4C3LHJKNXRP75VGEMU John Y

      1. RH Bill does not allow abortion, but the church will insist it does anyway. Supposedly, it should be up to god to dictate how many children a couple should have. They often quote “multiply… as countless as the stars” while conveniently leaving out “and subdue it”.

      2. What they mean about crime against women is the giving of more rights to women. Why else would they fight against the magna carta for women?

      3. Even if debates lasted 100 years, so long as the church doesn’t like it, they will still say “you’re doing it too fast” or “let’s take it slow”. If their opposition won, it’s “tyranny of numbers” while if church side won, it’s “god’s victory”.

  • nes911

    Nabubuang na mga obispo dahil masyado silang naembarrassed sa pagkakapasa ng rh bill sa kongreso. Ganyan ang napapala ng mga pakialamero. Kaya Magpakatino at magpakatao na kayo.

  • tadasolo

    What kind of “god” will go to war. 

    • UrHONOR

      The god of CBCP et al.

  • http://www.scribd.com/narodnikkki karaangtawo

    I think part of the problem here is that the media hypes these nonsense-spouting alleged religious moral leaders. They should do more write-ups on those Catholics that are more modern-headed. 

    • UrHONOR

      CAN not be…..baka mapunta sila sa Jell. :)

  • woodside333

    ‘more modern-headed’ PLEASEEEE!!  Contraception is about MONEY, the big companies don’t care about women, much less about the poor. USA and the Phillipines will spend BILLIONS of dolars to kill and stop the birth of babies.

    • http://www.scribd.com/narodnikkki karaangtawo

      the canadian council of bishops actually had a statement critical of the ‘humana vitae’ which is the document expressing the church’s status quo stance on artifical contraception. these are the ‘modern-headed’ kind of catholics i am talking about. it’s a really interesting read. i suggest you inform yourself. Part of the document states:

      “The unity of the Church does not consist in a bland conformity in all ideas, but rather in a union of faith and heart, in submission to God’s will and a humble but honest and ongoing search for the truth.” 

      do you actually think these catholic bishops were thinking of money when they made this statement?

      EDIT: It’s actually ‘Humanae Vitae’ not ‘Humana Vitae.’

  • ruben_bush

    bishop….stop this war-mongering……. preach peace not war!!! my god is a peace-loving god…… not a war-like revengeful god. may god give you bishops peace and love, instead of hate, war, and revenge!!!!

  • Hey_Dudes

    My goodness!  These bishops sounds more like they are getting insane everyday?  There is a papal nuncio representative of Vatican residing in the country someone who have not been heard from what his views are relating to this RH issue?  So far, only these bishops are making so much noise albeit losing badly?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    catholics are demonic cult, they want our country to be poor and over populated. they want to see street children begging for alms. rugby boys doing snatching or stealing.using God as their reason for opposing RH bill is misleading and a demonic act.

  • disqusted0fu

    i guess God is the only hope for the blocking of this bill. Someone like Pnoy is too powerful or should i say too arrogant and stubborn for the normal people.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    When the RH Bill was approved in ITALY, the pope was QUIET.

    Why are the lowly bishops so NOISY?

  • timothy canezaro

    Bishop, thanks for offering our Phillipino brothers and sisters some encouraging words as that gov’t like many others right now are attaqcking the things we as Catholics hold dear such as the gift of new life and marriage. Government in peru sterilized 300,000 women that gave birth in state run hospitals without there knowing as part of its population control program. In france, costa rica, and the unite states are attacking our foundations as a God fearing society by radically altering the meaning of Marriage as ordained by God. In the 1970′s the US legalized abortion. Today we have taken Life from 50 million unborn persons that never got a fair shot to Live. By embracing birth control and abortions a society takes on a veil of death as opposed to Life.
    We as the Universal Catholic Church claim believers from every corner of planet earth and we need to pray for the Salvation of humanity, make Reparations for our sins, Confess our sins and make ourselves ready for the day when Christ is coming again to pass judgement on us all. Politicians can think and say what they want but we are the children of God and only he is our Lord, Life and guide in Life. All praise, glory, and honor be unto Him.



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