Time to move on, says Archbishop Villegas

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Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas (cbcpforlife.com photo)

MANILA, Philippines–Let us move on!

While warning that the reproductive health bill was a “moral time bomb wrapped” as a Christmas gift, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas on Tuesday said it was time to come together and work for the country’s progress.

In a statement titled, “Let us move on!,” Villegas, a friend of President Benigno Aquino III’s family, said the outcome of the RH vote was “a time for soul searching and prayers.”

“This is a time for peacemaking. We might not see eye to eye but we can work hand in hand for the real progress that your people so richly deserve,” Villegas said in a message to his flock in Pangasinan.

“It is a progress with God, in God and through God. Daang matuwid (referring to Aquino’s famous slogan `The straight path.’) without God is a dead end street. Only with God can we see real progress of peoples,” he added.

Villegas said that “conscience attempted to speak” when the Senate and the House of Representatives “but it has been stifled!”

“They might have won through the tyranny of numbers but it does not mean that they are right. It is only a matter of time and then we will see more violations of `Thou shall not kill’ and `Thou shall not commit adultery’ among our families, our youth and children,” Villegas said.

“If the President will sign this into law, he will give us a moral time bomb wrapped as a gift to celebrate Christmas. This law will open more doors to abortion and more crimes against women,” he added.

Villegas urged the members of the Archdiocese of Lingayen-Dagupan to intensify the “moral spiritual education of our youth and children: so that they can stand strong against “the threats to their moral fibre.”

“Let us use all the means within our reach to safeguard the health of expectant mothers in our communities. Let us make available the sacrament of matrimony to our poor couples so that they may be guided in the right path in living out their duties as husbands and wives and as Catholic parents,” Villegas said.

“Let us disseminate through organized pre-wedding seminars the teachings of the Church on natural family planning at the same time warning our people about the hazardous effects of contraceptive pills on the health of women,” he said.

“Let us conduct our own sex education of our children insuring that sex is always understood as a gift of God. Sex must never be taught separate from God and isolated from marriage,” he added.

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  • popeyee

    Akala ko ba “let’s move on” na? Bakit ang dami pang pasakalye nitong si arsopispo?

    • ed_nique

      LOL … i know!!!!

      anyway. this is how i believe things should be once the bill becomes a law …. the church will continue to educate it’s followers on what they deem as the correct way population control should be done while the government will provide any assistance required for those who seek it.

      no one side imposes itself … it should be the individual’s choice and interest that must be respected

  • JuanTamadachi

    “Time to move on, says Archbishop Villegas” – I couldn’t agree with you more, Your Grace.

    • UrHONOR

      PAANO mo naman nalamang Grace, e, Rosario ang pagka-alam  ng karamihan?  :)

      • JuanTamadachi

        lol

      • prince_janus

         hunghang din isang ito!

      • kalikasanipagtanggol

         Ikaw ano ba ang alam mo rosauro na vienna sausage ang sukat? yung afrikano na bagay sa kulay ng pagpapasukan sayo nasubukan mo na ba?

  • disqus_F7NxgCOapC

    ang tinig nang nakakarami ay tinig nang Diyos… sabi ninyo yan

    • johndcross1

      Vox populi, vox dei. The voice of the people, is the voice of God!

  • AgapitoBagumbayan

    It’s a total irony when Catholic Bishops speaks of morality.

  • pej1972

    Sie pa Bishop, tuloy tuloy mong sirain ang iyong kredibilidad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    ACCEPTANCE is the best to move on.

  • mumbaki ak

    SOUR-GRAPING, SIMPLY.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    I really cannot understand how on earth can these bishops become experts on topics such as sex, marriage, family, reproductive health and what contraceptives are abortifacient or not?

    • johndcross1

      I think they are experts on nothing!

  • johndcross1

    Correct, time to move on!  Go to the south & help contribute food & other assistance using your own money & stop interfering in government business.  I have’nt seen or heard of any assistance given by churches to those who suffered in typhoon Pablo. Spend your own money helping the poor. Donot campaign for donations.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      You don’t know what you talking about, boy. In fairness to the Catholic Church, they are the first to distribute relief goods in Compostela Valley and Davao Oriental. According to my friend who is an Iglesia ni Cristo member, he was surprised when the Church wholeheartedly helped and welcomed them in the pastoral center even if he is not a Catholic. Even in CDO, it was the Catholic Church who first provided relief goods to the victims, not any other religious sect.

  • brunogiordano

    “Time to move on, says Archbishop Villegas”

    TAMA!!!!

    sabi ni CARDINAL MARTINI 200 years behind na kayo(conservative/fundamentalist Catholics).

    Sundin na ninyon ang mga moral ng mga Progressive/Liberal Catholics na siya ng majority ngayon.

    Are you really ready to move on?????

    • prince_janus

       Kelan ba naging tama ang mali?

  • vladimirski

    I don’t think the bishop speech is all about moving on. He actually went on saying about his sentiments. I guess it could have been better if he just admit that he cannot move on, what he
    just did was actually lied to himself and oops isn’t that a sin? It would have been good if he just
    give his speech in a supportive manner, after all, that is his intention right, to move on..instead of planting doubts and cast negative images of the supposed law to the people’s mind. The church should by right provide spiritual guidance and create balance between the church and state but never be a part of the state’s affairs. A line must be drawn otherwise, the church will violate it’s own doctrine and that is “Will”. The more the church interferes, and gets affected when what they want are not followed, the more they become dictators themselves. We all have just one country. Let’s support our nation all the way

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP bishops katoliban carnival tagle SALOT SATANAS!! DAMASO!!

    • prince_janus

       Oh, isa ka na rin doon!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BISHOP SOCRATES VILLEGAS SATANAS!! DAMASO!!!

    • prince_janus

       Isa ka na rin yata doon! Kampon ka na rin ba ng kadiliman?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      punta ka nga dito sa Basilan tingnan natin tapang mo! pagkakaalam ko ang anti-Catholic hanggan salita lang. haha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        di mo na ako kailangan papuntahin ng mindanao tiga gensan ako kung mag salita ka para kang walang kamatayan!!! kung ikaw aso ng damaso ako hindi 2012 na alipin ka parin ni damaso mag basa ka ng noli metangere fili ng maliwanagan isip mo si doctor jose rizal pambansang bayani natin ikaw pambansang bayani mo si carnival tagle salot yan!!!

  • jinx

    Haha, the bishop doesn’t sound like he’s moving on…  When bishops like him express their dismay over the RH bill, they make it sound like there’s no fetus thrown on churches’ doorsteps, no  illegitimate children born every year. and no broken families.

  • virgoyap

    If it’s time to move on then listen to the will of people and avoid giving false prophecies that might hinder our country to move on smoothly.

    • Filpino

      ay naku sa simbahang katoliko rin ang takbo nyo after ng RH-bill na ito. Kapag ang mga anak nating babae ay mababalitaan nalang natin nagpalaglag. Kapag ang unica iha natin ay bigla na lang mabuntis dahil sa pagkatuto sa sex. 

      Nabawasan man ang mga anak sa labas,nagumon naman sa sex ang mga kabataan natin.

      Parang libing lang yan, kahit hindi katoliko dadaan at dadaan parin sa simbahan hehehe
       

  • Philcruz

    I thought he was going to tell his fellow priests and bishops to search their souls and analyze why they lost this battle. But the archbishop merely says they will continue the fight through all other means available if the RH bill is finally signed into law.

    These priests and bishops apparently still don’t believe that they have lost their credibility and therefore their convincing power. Whatever credibility they had left was no longer enough to convince the public and the public’s representatives in an issue that is very real to the Filipinos.

    Go on retreat, dear bishops and priests, and soul-search yourselves first. The world is round, not flat.

    • Filpino

      hehehe hindi lahat ng gusto ng nakararaming tao ay tama at gusto ng Diyos.

      Parang mga Israelita lang yan ng panahon ni Moses. Lahat sila sumuway sa mga kagustuhan ng Diyos maliban kay Moses at Aaron.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    • Filpino

      konti lang yan sa maraming bilang ng kaparian na tumutugan sa aral ni Jesus. hindi yang mga ganyang iskandalo ang magpapabagsak sa katoliko.

      mga tao rin ang mga pari marunong matukso at magkasala.

      ang mga pastor mo ba sigurado kang hindi bakla.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari
     Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • Filpino

      nasauli ng lahat ito, wala ka nang maibato kaya paulit ulit nalang banat mo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      uy baka nagseselos ka dahil di ka binigyan ng SUV. haha. penge kang Pnoy na lang! INC pastor ka ba? haha

  • DOUANE

    Isn’t urging your people to move on while making such bitter remark a bit, uhm, contradictory?

  • 12JEM

    Ang simbahang katoliko sa Pilipinas mali ang pagpapatupad ng Catholic Social Teaching.

     

     

    • Filpino

      kung mag comment ka parang alam mo teaching ng simbahang kotoliko. aber ano ba alam mo share m o nga kung tama?

      • 12JEM

         Please read:
        Publication No. 5-315
        USCCB Communications
        Washington, D.C.
        ISBN 1-57455-315-1

    • prince_janus

       Kelan naging tama ang mali?

  • UrHONOR

    THAT surely is a left-handed admonition.  Nagbigay nga ng tinapay ang palaman naman ay siling labuyo, buti pa tumahimik na lang si Momoy Villegas.  Anupaman, alam na ng lahat ang buong pangyayari at kung saan nakatayo at ano ang pinaninindigan ng simbahan.  Pero ang mahalaga ang nagtagumpay ay ang mamamayan.  Kahit na anupa ang gusto nilang palabasin sa KUNG ano ang mangyayaring masama (sino ang makakapagsabi ng kung ano ang mangyayari sa hinaharap?), ang mahalaga ay ang pangkasalukuyan…at yan ay ang kapakanan ng sangbayanan.  ‘Musta na ang kita ng bilyon-bilyong investments….makakatikim ba ang mga mahihirap sa sangdamukal na kinikita ng kaban ng simbahan o ang Vatican lang ang makikinabang?

  • surrey09

    Since the Church involves itself in secular affairs & policies of Government, isn’t it time that they should pay their dues as citizens of this Republic. It is time the government tax all churches & religious organizations. No church or religious organization, even if they claim to be non-profit, should enjoy any tax exemption privilege. They want to dabble in State affairs, they should pay first for that privilege. These church leaders rake in a lot of money & they don’t pay any taxes on them. They’re just getting fat on the piety of their flock. I say tax all churches & religious organizations. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      The government will be having a hard time imposing tax to the Church. For the Church provides services to the people which cannot even be provided by the government: (1) provides education, shelter and protect the rights of the Indigenous Peoples all over the Philippines, (2) promotes genuine peace process with the Moros in Mindanao, (3) provides financial assistance to families who cannot afford financing for their businesses through establishment of cooperatives, (4) provides scholarships to deserving students in College and Vocational Schools, (5) providing shelter for the abondened i.e. street children, abused women, abandoned aged, (6) promotes agricultural reforms by supporting farmers, (7) trains farmers and fisherfolks on new ways to effectively tilt their land and catch fish, (8) trains local government units in the barangay level on effective governance.  These are just a few things which the government cannot even provide to the people of this country. Even other religious sects like the burn-again, iglesia ni manalo, ang dating doon cannot surpass what the Catholic Church has been doing. As Archbishop Villegas said, we’ll be joining hands in working for the progress of this country. I admire the Church’s acceptance on this temporary defeat. I know all Catholics, anti and pro-RH, will remain faithful and supportive of the Church. I know because I am. Mabuhay ang Simbahang Katoliko! -from the Catholic community of Isabela, Basilan.

      • Filpino

        ayan ang hindi alam nang karamihan. at ang mga katolikong nakakaalam kung ano talaga ang catholic church, ang misyon nya at ang mga aral nya na nakasalig sa Diyos.

  • plunderer

    kailan kaya mawala sa mundo itong relihiyon na ito??? sana ngayon na!!!

    • prince_janus

       mauna ka na!!!!

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      satanist

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      Punta ka dito Basilan tingnan natin tapang mo!

  • hopeless_na

    “LUCKY ARE THOSE WHO ARE POOR, FOR THEY WILL GO IN HEAVEN”

    kaya kung mayaman ka, i-donate mo lahat ang iyong kayamanan sa simbahan para maghirap ka at mapunta ka sa heaven.

    • Filpino

      HINA MO  UMINTINDI.

    • prince_janus

       tsk tsk tsk may sayad yata!

  • Aris Kalayaan

    The Church has the capability to diffuse what the bishops called “moral time bomb” if the bishops will go out of their comfort zones to know the challenges the faithful are facing and by educating them especially the poor about responsible parenthood using natural family planning method.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

    You are right bishop. Time to move on, time for self examination. What happened to your flock? Bakit di nila kayo sinusunod?

    I’ll give you a hint… SUV, hindi Pajero. Everybody cheats anwyay. Pedophilia. Priests with affairs. Separation of Church and State. Wealthy church, poor faithful.

    I think those will be enough for now.

    • Filpino

      hindi matitinag o magigiba ang simbahang tinatag ni Jesus dahil lang sa mga ganitong mga kamalian ng iilang pari. 

      Tingnan mo ang simbang gabi sa mga simbahan punumpuno pa rin. Naiinggit ka ba at di pinapansin ng mga katoliko ang mga ganitong tirada sa catholic church. Kasi kaming mga katoliko ay naniniwala na ang pananampalataya namin ay higit pa sa mga pari at imahe. Magkasala man ang mga pari ng rape ok lang tanggal sila sa pagkapari, pero di naman sila ang pinupunta namin sa simbahan kundi si Jesus na Diyos. Mga tao rin ang mga yan natutukso rin tulad ni Pedro malapit na kay Jesus itinatwa pa nya.ikaw ba hindi na nagkakasala?

  • prince_janus

    RH Bill magiging ningas cogon din yan. Ang condom gagawing lobo at ang mga pills ay gawing abuno sa orchids! Kahit itanong nyo pa sa mga health centers.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TEEI5C5UPRRAVPE6GK52363MSA sievert

    its the time for the catholic church to submit to the government will for its people, The catholic church crusade against RH Bill is not an all out war for its flocks never understand what they are fighting for.Matthew 15:14 says leave them;they are blind guides,if a blind man leads a blind man both will fall into a pit. these catholic priest, bishops, nuns, etc is blinded by their own principle, they don’t care because all of their lives they live single no family to raise,no husband or wife to care for. our government position in RH Bill is not a breach for the moral perimeter in our present society,instead it creates an opportunity that the church and state will see how this law can enrich and safeguard the fundamental unit of our society the FAMILY. 

  • ambugon

    it’s time for congress to be serious in promoting women’s and family welfare by revisiting social welfare services and policies of the gov’t. i challenge pia and miriam to push for a bill that will give real services and support to women and mothers. have a second look at our maternity benifits and the working conditions of working women. don’t give craps to poor women by giving noodles, sardines, a kilo of rice, etc. these are  cheap actions and resolve to uplift women, mothers and poor families. lets get real!!!!

  • Cyrus Vincent Lopez Tronco

    Vox Populi Vox Dei – St. Agustin..

    The people has chosen and it has chosen the side of democracy. The Moral Issue is up to each and everyone choosing whether to use the Artificial Contraceptive or the Natural one. The government merely makes both available so that poverty would not be a hindrance for the woman to choose either one. The RH Bill boils down to one single subject CHOICE and choice is what characterizes a democracy!

  • ardong

    So much debates had been ventilated – for almost 14 years! already!  Nakakasawa ng pag-usapan uli.  Masyado ng heavy. Almost all sides were heard. I believe there’s no right or wrong here. Both sides have profound reasons. Maybe it’s about time we put closure to this subject. I agree, let’s move on. If it fails, then mistakes had been made and the proponents of the bill must be answerable [ by firing squad and/or decapitate of testicles?]  But if not, then this moral time bomb referred to by Arch Villegas is just a product of his own hallucination and will just explode on his face.

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    Some people are so adept at using the pulpit to do sour graping.

    As I see it, the catholic church does not have the monopoly of uplifting the quality of life of the people.  It just cannot stand other ideas that do not conform to their own standard of morality. And so they mock it. And call it names. And pray for its enlightenment.

    Rest assured, with Soc’s kind words, we will see the RH through, and that his prediction that it is a timebomb, shall be false, and that it shall prevail. And that it will respect life as it lawfully sees fit, and not according to what one religion dictates. And one day, he too shall see the beauty of the RH Law, or die waiting for his timebomb to explode.

    If he mocks the RH law, if he puts it down the people who support it, then, I say let us offer him the other cheek, for it is the christian thing to do. Then be on our merry way…

  • JosengSisiw1

    Time to move on while fingering the goverment with accusation of giving gift of moral time bomb. I pity Aquino for having a friend like archbishop Villegas. He is the kind who will stabbed you in the back. How can you ask people to move on when you yourself keeps on stepping backward?

  • Diepor

    Genesis 38:8-10 NASB
    Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.

  • Diepor

    Deuteronomy 23:1 ESV
    No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.

    • UrHONOR

      GUSTONG-gusto ng mga badidays ang topic na yan!

      • kalikasanipagtanggol

        HOY! huwag ka na magmalinis dahil kitang kita ang kulay ng dugo mo berdeng berde! tanggalin mo muna yung nakapasak diyan sa wapot mo kaya ang masamang hangin lumalabas diyan sa bibig mo!

  • Diepor

    Deuteronomy 25:11-12 NASB
    If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.

  • disqusted0fu

    the Philippines hasnt gotten a lot of presents from Aquino. now he is about to give us something, its a moral time bomb though. its more fun in the Philippines!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    move on na mga religiots hehe!

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