Santiago says 11 to 13 senators may vote for RH bill

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Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago. FILE PHOTO/SENATE POOL

MANILA, Philippines – Senator Miriam  Defensor-Santiago predicted  a slim lead in favor of the  controversial   Reproductive Health bill  when the Senate  votes  on  it on  Monday.

“Malamang mananalo kami,” Santiago, a staunch supporter of the RH bill, said in a television interview.

“We’ll have a majority I hope of between 11 to 13 senators ,”   she  said.

There  are  23 senators but Santiago  said  not all  members  might  be present during the voting  or if they are  present , some of them  would  probably  abstain.

“It’s not necessarily a total vote of 23 that’s why  I’m making a conservative estimate of maybe 11 to 13 votes in favor of RH and therefore, we  should win it  not only on second reading  but also on third reading,”  she said.

Since   President  Benigno Aquino III has certified the measure as urgent ,  the senator  said , the Senate  can immediately  proceed  on  third and  final  reading  after    they vote on  second reading  this  Monday afternoon.

“Pag nanalo kami sa second reading, panalo na kami sa third reading,’ she pointed out.

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  • kilabot

    except for her support of the rhbill, miriam is normally brilliant; 
    this is one dull moment for her; 

    the rhbill is like faith, it makes the wise foolish and the foolish wise. 

    No to rhbill. 
    No to perversion.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

       RH bill is needed because not all people are a saint like you/// even the catholic church is not perfect, they have perverts in their ranks too, just to remind you

      • calipso_2100

        correct, nobody is perfect, even the church.  But does that mean that we just have to tolerate immorality just because the church, or we ourselves, are not perfect?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

        What is morality to you? who defines morality?

      • calipso_2100

        You don’t have manners.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

         i do have manners and im not here to prove it, im replying to your comment. you talk about immorality on your comment so i am asking you calipso_2100, on how you understand the world morality. maybe if you can convince me, i might change into an anti-RH Bill citizen :-)

      • calipso_2100

        Sorry dude, i didn’t mean what I said.  Now that you said you have manners, let me ask you…
        Define manners?  Who defines manners?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

         nice answer…. it just shows that you could not even defend what you stand for…goodnight

      • Jane Tan

        Common anti-RH practice, return the question. Don’t bother asking people relevant questions they don’t know the answers to. You can’t expect them to know the answers when they haven’t read the Bill. They just listen to what others say.

      • calipso_2100

        ahaha. gotcha.
        If you do not know the answer to my question, then you cannot understand the answer to yours.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

        Gotcha? I don’t waste my time to people who could not give me an intellectual answer to my querry. Asking another question to an existing question without providing any answer is a proof that you don’t know what you are defending. read more and maybe i will look back at this and engage on a debate with you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

        what’s your suggestion then? on how to improve the lives of many Filipino people?

      • calipso_2100

        If you can’t afford to raise a family, then discipline yourself and control your urge.  If you know you have an STD then don’t go out F*CK someone. If you are married be faithful to your spouse and don’t F^CK anyone else.  

        Easier said than done, I know.  But just because the other path is easier doesn’t mean it’s the right path.

      • Jane Tan

        No calipso, what’s easier is not passing the RH Bill and just going back to the old routine that hasn’t produced any positive effects in 14 years.

        I was anti-RH before. And its easy to just go about life doing nothing because we just have to rely on people’s choice to change themselves for the better, without any intervention from us. 

      • Jane Tan

        Look around you, we have been tolerating immorality. Maybe you should google how many women in the Philippines end up getting pregnant before marriage, and how many are now single parents. Did you see the news article about adoptable children yet noone would adopt them? That number will keep on growing with the number of unwanted pregnancies.

        How about you ask yourself, if you had a daughter, could you honestly say that you could totally protect her from having sex before she gets married? Before she turns 21? Before 18? What if your daughter gets pregnant at the age of 21 or younger, how would you feel?

        We do not tolerate immorality, but we cannot stamp it out completely or completely enforce morality in an immoral world. Filipinos, as you know, have one of the biggest “grey areas” when it comes to following the rules.

      • calipso_2100

        “Look around you, we have been tolerating immorality.”
        The government has, some members of the Church have, even some leaders of the Church have.  So we just give up the fight to morality just because everybody else is doing it?  The definition of right and wrong does not change even if the very people who are supposed to preach them are themselves corrupted.

        “Maybe you should google how many women in the Philippines end up getting pregnant before marriage, and how many are now single parents.”

        And the Church is doing its efforts to discourage people from engaging in pre marital sex.  Although priests themselves violate this.  And so we can say these priests are hypocrites.  But then again as I have pointed out “The definition of right and wrong does not change even if the very people who are supposed to preach them are themselves corrupted.”

      • Jane Tan

        Agreed with every reply. Then let me ask you this – who decides what is right and what is wrong?

        Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a fan of contraceptives but they are, in my opinion the lesser evil.

        The Church is doing its part, and I’m here to tell you that what they are doing cannot be applied in the Philippines because it is not enough.

        Well, if we believe the clauses of the RH Bill to be the right answer  “even if the very people who are supposed to preach them are themselves corrupted.”

      • Galbladder0

        Rh bill is NOT needed because not all people are pervert likr you. Goverment is not perfect in delivering this bill because this will become source if corruption. Free condoms and other material that will be conducted specificaly here in province will be just waste of money and source of corruption because people here are morally educated.

        Edcel lagman is wants to have “some juice” with this bill as he did with the liquid fertilizer scam in albay.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4JLOFHOJL3LMQ5W43BHBYIPS4 jonathan

         how can you say that it will be a source of corruption? do you see the future? well, good for you then..you’re one of a kind. maybe you can run for public office since you can predict the future.  Just a suggestion.  And again how do you define morality?

      • yaonglaan

         its ad if your Church is never guilty of Corruption wake up and study and youll know

    • ngidigop

      Please tell that no perversion to your priests and bishops. They are the BIGTIME perverts.

      • calipso_2100

        Following your logic we can say
        “Let’s just tolerate corruption because many government officials are corrupt anyway.”

    • mad_as_Hamlet

      Pardon me, but why is it that in the rare instances, like now, that Madam Sen. Santiago clearly enters her lucid interval, you appear to enter the exact opposite of yours?  Forgive the intrusion.  I am most interested in this pheomenon for both  scientific and personal reasons, having been a mental case myself. 

    • rhan duke

      ITS NOT RIGHT TO LIFE, IT IS RIGHT TO QUALITY OF LIFE. LIFE IS EXPENSIVE, ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT IS  HELL. WHY CANT BISHOPS UNDERSTAND THIS. IN ITALY, AND CATHOLIC COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, THIS IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

    • rmichael2

      Perversion? So how did those teen pregnancies, abortions and spread of HIV infection  come about? It is the fools who can’t see what are happening in the real world. Pass the RH bill!

  • pcosmachine

    This is one of the Senate votes where Miriam is actually making sense for her constituents.

  • rhan duke

    POLITICAL WILL! GO FOR RH BILL!   WE HAVE TOO MANY FILIPINOS ALREADY. THE GOVERNMENT IS DEEP IN DEBT. TAXPAYERS CARRY THE BURDEN. OUR INCOME IS CUT ALMOST IN HALF BECAUSE OF TAX BURDEN TO PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS, WHILE MAJORITY DON’T PAY TAXES OR DO ANYTHING BUT PRODUCE BABIES WHO THEY CANT AFFORD TO SEND TO SCHOOL, HENCE, CREATING MORE SOCIAL PROBLEMS? LIFE IS EXPENSIVE. ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT IS NO LONGER LIFE, IT IS A LIVING HELL. WHY CANT BISHOPS UNDERSTAND THIS? HINIHILA TAYO NG SIMBAHAN PABABA. CHURCH LANG NAMAN ANG MAYAMAN SA PILIPINAS. LOOK AT THE MULTI-BILLION EQUITY OF THE ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA IN BPI ALONE. LOOK AT THE CHURCH MULTI-BILLION INVESTMENTS IN MINING, BROACASTING, COMMUNICATIONS, IN TOP 50 COMPANIES. THE CHURCH IS NOT TRANSPARENT IN ITS RESORCES AND TRUE NETWORTH. WALA SILANG UTANG. SILA LANG ANG YUMAYAMAN, HABANG MADAMI ANG MAHIHIRAP. DOON SILA YUMAYAMAN SA DAMI NG POPULATION. CHECK THIS IN GOOGLE, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ONE OF THE WORLDS RICHEST INSTITUTION. SA FEDERAL RESERVE PALANG MAGKANO KAYA NETWORTH NILA? DITO SA PINAS, THEY OWN VAST TRACT OF LANDS IN THE PHILIPPINES. THEY HAVE “ONLY FOR THE RICH” SCHOOLS” HERE. THEY ARE PREACHING THE BIG WORDS, “CHARITY LOVE HOPE”, BUT IS IT LOVING OR CHARITABLE? THINK AGAIN. CHURCH LOVE US BEING POOR. PERHAPS ITS TIME BISHOPS PAY TAXES. ITS TIME CHURCH PAY TAXES TO AUGMENT GOVERNMENT PROGRAM  FOR THE POOR. KUNG MAHILIG SILANG MAKIALAM, THEY SHOULD SHARE THE BURDEN. HIPOKRITO ANG SIMBAHAN NATIN.

    • help_our_country

      You can also add that…achiodese of Manila has billions worth of stock investment to BPI.

  • ConstructiveMediaCritics

    THE LIGHTS AND MIRACLE OF MOTHER MARY LIGHTS AND GUIDES THE SENATOR TO FAVOR ANTI RH BILL 4244 FOR THE LIFE AND FAITH OF FILIPINO PEOPLE AND FOR THE WORLD PATTERN….

    GOD AND JESUS AND MOTHER MARY LIGHTS AND MIRACLES, LIGHTS AND BLESS US AGAINST RH BILL 4244.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_26BA6W344SPNT7SP3PLACAGXBI Blue_Crimson

      @facebook-1806156064:disqus : Don’t drink too much Kool-Aid. It’s bad for you.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KJTM3ITCNYWO3IXLT2BORTGGNI Frederick Anthony

        hahahah kool aid is religiously addicting

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      panatiko ginago ka na ng bishops mo tirantado kapa wala kang alam tuta ni DAMASO”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      naintindihan mo ba yang sinulat mo ? ako wala…………

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

        Dahil wala kang utak

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    Although I am against the RH Bill, I am aghast at the Gloria rah rah boys and girls in the lower house who voted against it. That;s why I do not agree with the Catholic Bishops who declared that those who voted against the RH Bill are heroes. How can you consider Mikey Arroyo, Suarez, Mitos Magsaysay and Imelda Marcos as heroes?

  • Odnalor Larguia

    Praised the Lord….

  • rhan duke

    CHECK THESE FACTS. PRODUCTIVE POPULATION (PERHAPS 5-10%) WHO ARE TAXPAYERS, ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR MORE THAN 100 BILLION PESOS TO CCT FOR A PERIOD FOR 5 YEARS. AS A TAXPAYER, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS SHORT TERM RELIEF BECAUSE WE WANT OUR YOUNG POPULATION COMPRISING MORE THAN 60 % TO GET BETTER EDUCATION, CCT IS GOOD SHORT TERM MEASURE.  HOWEVER, WE CANT AFFORD THIS IN THE LONG RUN. MABABAON TAYO SA UTANG. CONGRESS WILL CREATE ALL SORTS OF TAXES. KAWAWA ANG TAX PAYERS, KASI AT THE END OF THE DAY, SILA AT SILA DIN ANG MAG SHOULDER NITO. 

  • rhan duke

    ANG PROBLEMA SA SIMBAHAN PURO SILA IMAGINATION, WALA NAMAN SILA GINAGAWA. WHAT ABOUT SELLING THEIR VAST TRACKS OF LANDS OR CONVERT THEM INTO MASS HOUSING FOR THE POOR FOR FREE?  WHAT FREE EDUCATION FOR THE POOR? KAYA LANG MAYAYAMAN LANG ANG NAKAKAPAG ARAL SA ATENEO, LA SALLE AT MGA CATHOLIC RUN SCHOOLS. NAPAKA HIPOKRITO TALAGA NG CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    • pepito gwaps

      Merong free schools sa Silang Cavite, Talisay Cebu at Sta Mesa Manila. They produce 10,000 poor Filipino Youths graduates with multiple technical skills every year. They are running for many decades already. Some of their graduates even reached the Malacanang Palace and well known companies. It is 100% free of charge. Marami pang educational institutions are run by catholics ang libre at they never expect any single penny from you as a pay.. just do a research and you will know some of them. They are practicing virtues of humility and charity so they are not well known to many. The best  thing you can do is ask your parish priest if they are also aware of that. There are so many good people around but I’m sorry if many people fail to meet even one of them.

      • droccu

        Are you talking about Catholic schools providing free education? DAPAT lang and for ALL Catholic schools dapat! Mind you that these services are NOT totally free as you may think not only for the hidden charges/collections/donations the Church collects but more so that the Catholic Church does NOT PAY TAXES for all their properties and activities (church grounds, schools, hospitals, all CHURCH properties from the littlest land in front of your small  town munisipyo to big properties in the cities and investments, etc.). TAX EXEMPT PO ANG CHURCH.

    • titO_vanS

       truly MGA IMPOKRITO SILA.

  • rhan duke

    ITS TIME TO STOP CATHOLIC CHURCH FROM MEDDLING PURELY GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.

    • RomyLitz

      They better join the paty list systems  and let’s see if Brilliantes will accommodate their group.

  • calixto909

    See and hear Santiago all ye peoples of the world. Miriam Defensor Santiago what a name to behold? Liar, arrogant, inexorable pride and a wiseacre. But today, she has millions of enslaved supporters, tweeting and sharing every statement her foul mouth brays like a donkey. She is the idol and champion of the Pro RH Bill advocates.

    But to my humble self as a menial Anti with only my firm belief in God as my expression of being, call her an evil-inspired senator with nothing good in he mind to bestow but to sow evil. May your tribe decrease Santiago. 

    • mon key

      are you out of your head? there are senators much worse than her. or because you are a TROLL!?

    • jaygibi

      and also with you….

  • rhan duke

    GO RH! SLAY THE DRAGON MONSTER THAT IS THE CHURCH!

  • blainz

    After 14 long years, the RH bill is finally becoming law!

    About time the country exercises political will to exorcise the haughty, meddling Damasos.

    Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!

  • rmichael2

    It is now time for our countrymen to progress. Vote for the RH bill. Be statesmen who would be remembered in our history as heroes to our people.

  • titO_vanS

     DAPAT LIBRE NA O BABAAN ANG BAYAD SA PATAY AT BINYAG KUNG TUNAY NA MAHALAGA SA KANILA ANG KALIGTASAN NG KALULUWA NG ISANG TAO.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      from baptism to  burial you have to pay for the services..cost depends on the kind service.. this is  the business aspect of any religion ….people don’t realize that priesthood, evangilist etc.. are professions…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

      Pati na rin 10% at suweldo ng mga pastor

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/hbRkpPw1oYTBJamz.EH7acMZBBVoIlWXriA-#e4348 Felix

    Maaari kaya na isaad sa batas bilang bahagi ng batas ang kaparaanan kung paano masusukat ang bisa ng batas sa pag-abot sa simulain o pakay na matupad ng batas? Kung maaari, sana ay magawa ito at kung sakaling hindi maabot ang inaasam na tagumpay sa loob ng takdang panahon ay titigil ang bisa ng batas na hindi na kailanagan ang ano pa mang aksyon ng batasan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    type mo nalang sa youtube MAYOR LITO ATIENZA ABORZIONIST makikita mo ang tuta ng mga cbcp bishops ikinakalat ko na nga sa facebook at ipinasa ko dun sa sister ko sabi ko paki share babait ng prolife ano CBCP BISHOPS EXTREMIST TERRORIST”’ nasan ba yung A.K47ko pag babarilin ko salot na rebulto at cbcp bishops katoliban”

  • Fulpol

    Miriam never got the full support of Catholic Church.. she lost to a Protestant old man…

    she shifted to Iglesia ni Cristo… she is very happy to the support she gets…

    like BS Aquino III, she is vindictive too… like Enrile, she wants to retaliate too..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMIGLYZMHZZDSINKWDCM3DO56Y Dennis

      Correction eglisia ni manalo

  • RomyLitz

    Let the RH Bill reign !! And let the cardinals and bishops confine their functions in the church only, they should not be allowed to follow the public protest system. Mga Damasos stay at home or in jail !

  • Against Ignorance

    this bill has been around for 14 years. During that time the Philippines has increased its shantytown population by 30 million. That only makes sense to those who profit from the poor and those who want cheap labour. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    A sign of uneasiness is reflected in the way Sen. Miriam Santiago makes her forecast. “Pag nanalo kami sa second reading, panalo na kami sa third reading”. Pampalakas-loob.

    She knows it is just to boost the morale of her colleagues losing steam from the eventual defeat of the RH bill. But, whatever outcome there will be, the lady senator from Iloilo has a ready excuse if the bill will fail to meet the majority of votes…she will say the CBCP is to be blamed. 
    In fact, I think that she has prepared two statements for the media – a victory speech and a “who’s to blame for the debacle” tirade. 
    Abangan ang susunod na acting episode of an angry Miriam.

    • http://twitter.com/drachir888 Drachir Metal

       Technically, i think tama sya. Second reading talaga ang crucial.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QVU7O6IETKFSB7PGX53BK3XIVI Allan

    To my opinion those who will abstain from voting are Senators with two faces, afraid to make their own stand,afraid of people’s opinion,afraid of some sectors in the society, it is just a YES or NO.if you are YES stand by it and if NO stand by it, theirs no OR when you’re a leader, people look at you to make a decision for the country. If you believe it’s a sin against GOD then don’t, GOD doesnt believe in OR,it’s either you believed firmly in his words or against him. One thing is sure GOD is a sensible GOD.

  • disqusted0fu

    after a subtle nudge from the president, the results are not surprising. Aquino throws tantrums whenever he doesnt get what he wants. and we all know what he is capable of when things dont go his way. the impeachment of Corona was a clear statement to everyone that no one shall oppose what he wishes for.

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    A basta kay Miriam na kami ngayon. Thumbs up Senator.Cheers!

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