CBCP exec assails Aquino decision to certify RH bill as urgent

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MANILA, Philippines–A high-ranking official of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines on Friday condemned the decision of President Aquino to certify as “urgent” the controversial reproductive health bill.

“We hope he understands that his administration will be stained by the blood of the innocent unborn who will be deprived of the right to life because of contraceptive use,” said Fr. Melvin Castro, executive secretary of the CBCP Episcopal Commission on Family and Life.

“We hope he realizes that this bill would lead so many into offending God by the mandatory sex education. In the end, the supporters of this bill would be held accountable by God and His people,” he added.

“To end divisiveness? We are more than resolute to oppose the spirit behind this bill until the very last breath that we have,” Castro said.

Human Life International-Philippines director Rene Bullecer said they will continue to pray so that the bill would not make it to the desk of the President for signing.

“We have to continue praying. Let’s wait for divine intervention. I know God will do something before Aquino signs the RH (bill) into law,” Bullecer told the Church-run Radio Veritas.

“We need to intensify more our prayer and information campaign so that along the way, people will come to understand more the evil implications of the RH bill,” Bullecer added.

At the House of Representatives, the bloc opposed to the RH bill is not raising the white flag despite the presidential certification.

The focus now is on the 62 House members who were absent when the chamber approved HB 4244 on second reading last Thursday.

Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez said “more than 40” of these congressmen had earlier committed to vote against the measure.

“If they show up during the vote on third reading and stick to their commitment, we could overhaul the nine-vote lead of the pro-RH congressmen and win by a slim margin,” he said.

Nominal voting on the measure at the House lasted for five hours, ending at about 2 a.m., on Thursday, with 113 members voting in favor of HB 4244 and 104 voting against it. Three House members abstained, while 62 were absent.

Rodriguez said the anti-RH bloc earlier counted at least 136 congressmen rejecting the bill. He said the number went down to 123 on the eve of the vote, the same day the ruling Liberal Party ordered its 90-plus members in the House to support the bill.

“We hope that this pyrrhic victory will turn into a sound defeat despite the pressure exerted on congressmen,” Rodriguez said.

“We hope that during the vote on third reading, the Executive (branch) would give us a semblance of independence. The South Lounge is the domain of the House of Representatives, not the Executive,” he said.

Rodriguez was referring to the presence of Interior Secretary Manuel “Mar” Roxas II, Budget Secretary Florencio Abad, Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda, and Strategic Communications Secretary Ricky Carandang at the Batasan lounge to “lobby” for the bill.

A senior House member recalled: “Towards the end of the vote when it was close, I personally heard Mar say, ‘Is there anyone else that we can send home’?”

“Mar looked a little concerned, moving from his table to the table occupied by his staff where they had a tally,” the congressman added.

Lipa Archbishop Ramon Arguelles accused Roxas of “forcing” House members who voted “no” to the RH bill to change their votes.

“Let’s not name the person. I might not get further reports,” said Arguelles, declining to identify his source.

Manuel Quezon III, an undersecretary in Malacañang’s communications group, was giving a running tally of the nominal voting on his Twitter account.

Also seen lingering on the floor was Commission on Human Rights chairman Loreta Ann Rosales, a senior leader of the Akbayan party-list group. Akbayan is one of the groups lobbying for the RH bill.

Rodriguez scoffed at the criticism that Catholic bishops had also lobbied and watched the voting from the gallery.

“But they don’t give pork barrel. They have only the power of prayers,” he said.

Lawmakers usually go to the secretary of the Department of Budget and Management to follow up the release of their Priority Development Assistance Fund, commonly known as the pork barrel.

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  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    noynoy and mar roxas – primary anti-God forces in govt. Down with satanic leaders!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

      Hahhaha.. nah nah nah… whatever.

    • Mel

      Ha ha ha what a godly behavior.

    • Antonio43

      What’s wrong with you Catholics? Are happy that most Filipino mothers are always in danger of giving birth and finding it hard to feed their children? Are blind following the blind?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!yes yes yes na tyo sa RH BILL! RH BILL RH BILL…batiin natin ang ating Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!isa kang pinagpala para sa PILIPINO! salamat sa RH BILL RH BILL!kaya CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM…sama kayo pag bati sa kanya!CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!

      • ryan andres

        More like monkey see, monkey do.

    • ryan andres

      Spoken like a true catholic!

    • joshmale2004

      Hahaha. And you are all angels fighting for the gods.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    YES TO LIFE KUNG TUNAY KANG LALAKE IPUTOK MO SA LOOB WAG MO TAKPAN NG GOMA MAS MAMAHALIN KA NI PAPA JESUS MAMA MERY ABAGINOONG MARIA NAPUPUNO KA NG PERA”’

    • barako22

      mas mamahalin ka ni jesus kung tamang pag paplano ng pamilya ang gagawin mo, magabayan at mabigyan ng magandang kinabukasan ang mga bata para lumaking resposabling tao 

      • simondj

        tamang pag plano? saan ninyo po natutunan iyan, wala pong itinuro si Jesus na ganyan. iyan (reduce the inhabitant) turo na iyan haka lang iyan ng mga tao,,, at malamang sa demonyo iyan.
        how sure are you,, if you reduce the number of people on earth it will be properous?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    The MAJORITY Prevails.

    Now get lost, catholic IMAMS.

    • Antonio43

      Yes get lost. IMAMS

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      yes get lost!

      batiin natin si Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!yes yes yes na tyo sa RH BILL! RH BILL RH BILL…batiin natin ang ating Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!isa kang pinagpala para sa PILIPINO! salamat sa RH BILL RH BILL!kaya CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM…sama kayo pag bati sa kanya!CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!

  • $37644997

    To all CBCP,please don’t speak for God ,you are only allowed to speak for yourselves.

  • antiscam

    Only a Mitsubishi Montero and a Nissan Safari can change the Bishops opinion on RH Bill. To all PRO RH advocates, I suggst you do a fund raising of all your supporters so you can purchase these vehicles for our Bishops at CBCP. These bishops are such suckers for SUV’s hehehe

    • ryan andres

      Is it because SUV’s have such big luggage areas where they can stow their “luggage” in?

      Err…by “luggage”, I meant little boys… hehehe

  • Antonio43

    There is no life when condom and other birth control devices were used. Life begins when the egg is joined by the sperm. So you Catholic bishops, do not play ignorant about this or you are really ignorant. Preventing is not abortion.

    • just_anotherperson

      85% of the market for contraceptives are birth control pills which are proven abortifacients.

      • Ganymede

        Could you name some, and site your references?

      • just_anotherperson

        Ang fake na Mang Teban, nabuhay.

    • simondj

      it is the same thing, the same purpose, the same result. what is the purpose? not to bring baby, what is the result? did not bring baby. parehas din po iyan ,, iniba mo lang pangalan o tawag,,,, tinawanag mo lang na prevention to put the grey area. that is the work of the devil Antonio43.

    • simondj

      ay nga pala,,, pahabol,, iyang abortion pwede mong tawagin prevention at ngayon tawag na nila reponsible parenthood.  hindi na ako magtataka kung dadami pa lalo ang mga bata na sex na lang ng sex sa hindi nila asawa.

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    In what is clearly a political exercise of a branch of government pursuant to its constitutionally granted powers, Mr. Representative Rufus Rodriguez complains of the presence of political personalities from the executive and yet welcomes the presence of personalities coming from the Roman Church whose declared purpose is to thwart the passage of legislation which has popular support.

    It is therefore a gross understatement to say that for Mr. Rep. Rodriguez the doctrine of separation of Church and State is but a chimera.  For Mr. Rep. Rodriguez, the Church is a supra-legislative power to which Congress must bow.

    Mr. Rep. Rodrriguez is a traitor to the Constitution.  He has violated his oath of office.  He owes allegiance to a foreign power.  He deserves to be prosecuted as a spy and brought before a firing squad and shot without mercy.  But only with soft rubber bullets, for, after all, his stupid and silly loyalty and supposedly passionate concern is just about rubber and how God is allegedly against its use, except for tires, balls, and slingshots.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    CBCP is now very desperate, hurling all the lies it could muster. CBCP is grasping on the last straw, very much scared that upon signing of the RH law, its influence upon the people has then totally gone kaput.

  • just_anotherperson

    We are more than resolute to oppose the spirit behind this bill until the very last breath that we have,” Castro said
    Well said.

    • mad_as_Hamlet

      Please allow us to join in praying for the coming of that breath as declared by Castro.  We can pay extra.

    • tamumd

      Let him be huffing and puffing until he dies from stress! lol

      • just_anotherperson

        How can we die from stress when we are happpy to serve God.

        Our work is anchored on the love of God unlike our enemies who are driven by their hatred of the Church.

      • tamumd

        Sure very happy indeed! Who is a happy person demonizing other people and issuing threats “till their last breath”? Liars!

  • $25214711

    “We have to continue praying. Let’s wait for divine intervention. I know God will do something before Aquino signs the RH (bill) into law,” Bullecer told the Church-run Radio Veritas.Your God didn’t do nothing  about Pablo. He let those people die. Innocent people. Catholic Church has a lot of money. They need it more than your prayer. 

  • joshmale2004

    PARA MATAPOS NA IRINGAN NG MGA PRO AT ANTI RH BILL, AT TUTAL SABI NG MGA ANTI AT KAPARIAN 1) NASA SIDE NILA ANG DIYOS 2) SOLID ANG CATHOLIC VOTES 3) CATHOLIC ANG MAY PINAKAMALAKING POPULATION SA PILIPINAS. MAS MAGANDA PARA MAPATUNAYAN ANG LAKAS NG MGA ANTI, PATAKBUHING PRESIDENTE SI TAGLE SA SUSUNOD NA PRESIDENTIAL ELEKSYON AT PATAKBUHIN ANG MGA BISHOPS SA SENADO NEXT YEAR. SIGURO NAMAN DI KAYO PABABAYAAN NG DIYOS NYO AT MGA BOTANTENG KATOLIKO NA MATALO. KAYA SURE 12-0 ANG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO SA SENATE ELEKSYON NEXT YEAR. ANYWAY, MAS PRIORITY NILA NGAYON ANG MAKIALAM SA POLITICS KESA IPAGDASAL ANG MGA NANGYAYARI NGAYON. DARE TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE?

    • bydasea

      Sayang tapos na ang registration para sa next year election…

  • plunderer

    nak ng PUTS naman tong mga Damaso na ito, kayo rin panay SAL*#-S#*AL nyo pinatay nyo rin ang mga THAMUD nyu mga Damuho hehehehehe

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      HAIL HAIL HAIL Pinagpala ka Pres CONDOM! sigaw ng PILIPINO CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

        narrow minded….a s s h o l e

      • bydasea

        I have flag this as inappropriate. Get a life mxsclxmxn!

    • $20722540

       bastos…thinkers are doers

  • joshmale2004

     Alam ba ng mga pare ang sinasabi nilang killling of innocent “UNBORN” (Any stage of pre-natal development from fertilization to birth). Sa tagalog ang UNBORN ay yung ipnagbubuntis ng mother na nasa tiyan na niya. Are the priest INSANE to insist na paiinumin ng RH Bill ng Pills ang mga BUNTIS. Please don’t tell a lie because you are talking of ABORTION which is not part of the services to be provided by the RH Bill. Can’t you wake up to reality? UNBORN and FETUS are similar. Until the sperm fertilize the egg, wala pa ang tinatawag na UNBORN or FETUS.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

       batiin natin si Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!yes yes yes na tyo sa RH BILL! RH BILL RH BILL…batiin natin ang ating Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!
      isa kang pinagpala para sa PILIPINO! salamat sa RH BILL RH BILL!kaya CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM…sama kayo pag bati sa kanya!CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

        you are advertising condom  

      • bydasea

        I have flas this as inappropriate. Get a life mxsclxmxn!

      • $20722540

         i’m happy for you…good job

    • simondj

      iyan ang paliwanag sa iyo ng doctor hindi ba? kailan? siguro sabihin natin 18th century. or 200 years ago, pero si Adam po ay humigit kumulang sa 7000 years ago. tanong po, nasaan ka noong binata pa ang tatay mo? sabihin mo kung iyong nalalaman.
      pero sasabihin ko na rin,,, ikaw ay nasa balakang ng iyong ama.
      ibig kong sabihin ang dugo ni Adam  noon ay tuloy tuloy po hangang ngayon kaya tayo ay buhay ngayon.

      • joshmale2004

        What a very wrong perception. Can you define the character traits of “LIFE” to be considered as such? Sperm has a life but is not considered human being yet. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    RH bill approved na agad batas na para makabangon naman ang pinas over populated na tayo walang masama sa RH bill prevention lang mga ito wala pang lalabagin kung baga pinipigilan pa lang na magconbine yong sperm ng mag-asawa dahil wala pang silang balak dagdagan yong one one yr old na baby nila by using condom or either magcombine man pinipigilan na mabuo…wala pang buhay or baby na nabuo sa sinapupunan…tignan nyo sa ibang bansa isa or dalawa ang mga anak bihira lang ang tatlo sa gana nabibigyan nila ng magandang education or buhay…sa atin tignan nyo mga lansangan namamalimus mga bata, yong mga iba nagrarugby singhot para lang di nila maramdaman ang gutom, nagdradrugo, naghoholdap, kindaper, akayat bahay, magnanakaw…shame on you anti RH BILL….

  • ryan andres

    “We hope he understands that his administration will be stained by the blood of the innocent unborn who will be deprived of the right to life because of contraceptive use,” said Fr. Melvin Castro”

    Damasong Castroboy, bumalik ka sa high school at mag aral ka ng biology. Hindi mo alam pinagsasabi mo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      bro magagalit yan un kamasa ko dito….mag RH BILL na lng tayo….CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!
      yes to RH BILL RH BILL…lets have safe sex…sex ….sex…sex…walang buntis walang buntis sa RH BILL walang AIDS sa RH BILLyes yes yo! go go go na to thanks pres  CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM! thanks to Pres CONDOM! His legacy will last!

      • ryan andres

        F U C K  Off you troll. Baklang Jejemon.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

        pssst tulog ka na ……

  • Ganymede

    Divine Intervention? Do you believe that anything happens according to God’s Divine Will? So if this RH Bill becomes law, are you going to stop the divisiveness you’re causing to the country because it is in accordance to God’s plan? If the CBCP will still stubbornly oppose it, then clearly, they are against the Will of God.

    • simondj

      Ganymede, you have a will and God has a will,,, sometimes God allows your will to happen even it is against his will but only for a moment of time. example his commandment is ,,you shall not kill, but people kill people right? God does not want it to happen but anyway he allow it but you are responsible.

      • Ganymede

        If that is the case, how will you know if an event is God’s will or not? Only God knows right? So who are these people to say that if this thing happen, it is not the will of God and vice-versa? If you’ll say that the Church is the one authorized by God, then God makes mistakes. We all knew well that the Church committed mistakes in the past (i.e. inquisitions, heliocentric theory, etc. ) If that is so, then not all their teachings are absolute truth. They may be also wrong on the issue of RH Bill.

  • indiosbravos2002

    Sour graping at its finest. You dont run the country priest, thus you can not dictate the givernment. Can you offer something better? I dont thnk so.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    The idi0ts don’t understand the following.

    1. Some birth control pills are abortificients.
    2.  In case of successsful fertilization, which of course the woman would not know, what do you think would happen if she continues taking the pill?
    3.  Mechanism of birth control pills include expelling successfully fertilized ovum from the uterus.
    4.  Birth control pills are classified as class A carcinogens.

    Hence, those who still accuse the church of not doing their homework should be ashamed of themselves.  You are liars.

    • marienkind

      The whole problem here, mr wiseguy is that only some pills are abortificients. SOME. The RH bill proponents have been arguing for MONTHS that we will exclude those types but for some reason, you censor that part out and just keep on repeating that tired old line. You want every pill to be banned for the reason of a few pill types and there’s no logical amount of reasoning that can convince your side otherwise. That’s like banning all forms of medicine because some of them are fatal if consumed. 

      And your #4 item is a shaky argument at best. Claiming strongly things like that without sources is no better than lying as well. Satan would be so proud.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

        You know the problem, mr wise guy?  Pia Cayetano has been supporting the use of one of the birth control pills that is classified as abortifacient already and she thinks along the line why ban it if it can help the mother other than abortion?

        Pray tell, how it is worded in RH that contraceptives which are deemed abortificients will be banned?

        Also, how about the fertilized ovum which can be affected by the continuous use of birth control pills?  Do you know what will happen mr. wiseguy? 

        About birth control pills being carcinogen, search cancer risk birth control pills.  One of the website is cancer dot gov.  National Cancer Institute.  Search also the studies done by doctors from UST.  Those are independent studies.

      • joshmale2004

        Do birth control pills cause birth defects if taken during early pregnancy?
        Answer
        from Roger W. Harms, M.D.
        Taking birth control pills during early pregnancy isn’t thought to increase the risk of birth defects.
        A 2009 study suggested an association between the use of birth control pills during the time of conception and an increased risk of low birth weight or preterm delivery. Also, older research suggested that use of certain birth control pills during pregnancy could pose a risk of developmental problems with a female baby’s sexual organs — such as enlargement of the clitoris. Generally, however, these concerns haven’t been observed in clinical experience.
        It might be difficult to recognize the signs and symptoms of pregnancy if you become pregnant while taking the minipill (progestin-only birth control pill) because nausea, breast tenderness and irregular menstrual bleeding — common signs and symptoms of pregnancy — are also possible side effects of the minipill. In addition, if you do conceive while taking the minipill there’s a slightly higher chance that the pregnancy will be ectopic — when the fertilized egg implants outside the uterus, usually in a fallopian tube.
        As a precaution, stop taking birth control pills if you suspect you’re pregnant. Until the pregnancy is confirmed or ruled out, use another method of birth control — such as condoms. If you’re concerned because you took birth control pills before you knew you were pregnant, be assured that there’s little risk. It’s always important to discuss any medication use during pregnancy with your health care provider, however.

    • joshmale2004

      There is only one drug approved to induce abortion. It is called RU-486 (mifepristone) and is not on the FDA’s list of approved contraception. It is available only by prescription and no employer is forced to pay for it as part of an employee health plan.
      To understand why scientists believe that the IUD, Plan B and Ella are not abortifacients, it is important first to understand the biology of conception. In order for a woman to become pregnant after sexual intercourse, her ovaries must release an egg (ovulation). Sperm can remain viable inside her reproductive tract for five days. Therefore, if intercourse takes place up to five days before ovulation or within two days after, both sperm and egg are viable and the egg cell can be fertilized.
      Now, just because an egg is fertilized doesn’t necessarily mean that it will develop into an embryo. For that to happen, the fertilized egg must be implanted into the endometrium that lines the uterus. Implantation happens seven days after fertilization, if it happens at all. Scientists estimate that, at a minimum, two-thirds of fertilized eggs fail to implant. Some scientists estimate that the number may even be as high as 80 percent, according to Discover Magazine.
      For this reason, according to the medical definition, a woman is not considered pregnant until the developing embryo successfully implants the lining of the uterus.
      Some church officials argue that a woman is pregnant at the moment of fertilization. If that is the case, then it follows that 60 to 80 percent of the time, this natural process results in a massive loss of life.
      Now, back to contraception. When church officials argue that the IUD could be an abortifacient, they are relying on research from the 1970s that indicated that the IUD could affect an embryo’s ability to implant. Decades of research since has demonstrated that the IUD actually works much earlier in the reproductive process than once thought. It does not destroy an implanted embryo. Approximately one in 100 women using the IUD get pregnant.
      Rather, the IUD, which is a T-shaped device inserted into the uterus by a medical professional, works by affecting the way in which sperm move. Some IUDs release a synthetic version of the hormone progesterone called progestin, which thickens cervical mucus making more difficult for sperm to enter the uterus. Few sperm are able to reach the fallopian tubes, and those that do reach the site of fertilization are usually incapable of fertilizing an egg.
      The drug Plan B is also artificial progestin and therefore impedes the sperm from entering the uterus in the same way as the IUD. But the drug can also stop the ovaries from releasing an egg. If an egg has already been released, Plan B can slow down the movement of the egg. By slowing down both the egg and the sperm, it prevents fertilization.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    Thus, the senators and congressmen would prevent any move to define where does life begin.  If it is defined to start from fertilization, then birth control pills (or some of it) would be defined as abortificients.  That’s how the cookie crumbles.

    • marienkind

      See this? You know that only some of the pills are abortifacients, but you chose to word it in such a way that it would sound like all of them are, and just to make sure you are safe, you put in (or some of it) just so you can claim later that you are only referring to some, not all. Clever,or rather, devious.  

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

        Let us just say that you assume too much.

    • joshmale2004

      Life begins after fertilization. Birth Control methods as proposed in the bill are supposed to be done before to avoid fertilization. If somebody take the pill after fertilization, that’s possible abortion and RH Bill does not promote that nor any Doctor.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PCP2CZMS2N2CEE7RUHKKHHHYPY Mich

      if some of these pills are abortificients, then why the bfad stamp their approval for it to be in the market and available to the buying public? what is the difference between the gov’t distributing it vs the couple buying it?

    • Jane Tan

      And why do you think they stopped at “start of fertilization”? Because 1) majority of lawmakers are male, 2) well, I guess its implied what comes next…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    I knew that the pro-RH would win in the last 2nd reading, but I was surprised that they were able to win by small uncomfortable margin only. 

    Let the church do its job for standing firm against legislation that are deemed as immoral.  

    RH, a myopic bill, does not solve poverty nor it will help curb the population problem.

    Besides, population growth rate and total fertility rate are both declining the past years without the help of RH bill.

    We should be prioritizing education.  The government is cutting funds for scholarships and funds for TESDA, etc.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

      Talk to Edcel Lagman not here

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         Last time I checked, this is a free democratic world and everyone is entitled to express his opinion within lawful means. 

        Don’t worry, if I am not busy, I’ll go to congress, set an appointment with him, then talk to him.  I hope that our schedule meets.  /sarcasm

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

        good then all your questions will be answered….you know majority has voted already…..so just relax and let the lawmakers as you voted them as representative decides the fate of this controversial bill only because of the whims of the local catholic priests not the vatican

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         you know that there is 3rd reading still, right?

    • bydasea

      At 93 million Filipinos vying for limited resources I wonder how fertility rate and population growth are declining this past few years. We are now number 12 in world population index. The Philippine population increased at the rate of 1.90 percent annually, on the average, during the period 2000-2010. This means that there were two persons added per year for every 100 persons in the population. How can you provide education and feed for a million more Filipinos if there are nothing in place to mitigate the supply and demand of our government resources.

      1  China   1,347,350,000  December 31, 20112  India   1,210,193,422  March 1, 20113  United States  314,936,000  December 14, 20124  Indonesia  237,641,326  May 1, 20105  Brazil   193,946,886  July 1, 20126  Pakistan  181,492,000  December 14, 20127  Nigeria  166,629,000  July 1, 20128  Bangladesh  152,518,015  July 16, 20129  Russia  143,300,000  October 1, 2012 10  Japan  127,547,000  June 1, 201211  Mexico  112,336,538  June 12, 201012  Philippines  92,337,852  May 1, 2010

      Census YearCensus Reference Date Philippine Population(in million)2010May 1, 201092.342000May 1, 200076.511990May 1, 199060.70

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    The MAJORITY has Spoken.

    So CBCP, please SHUT UP.

    • $20722540

       easy ka lang, wait for the final tally next week

  • jr_06498

    Walang alam ang CBCP kung hindi ang wlang kontrol na pag dami ng populasiyon sa ating bayan, pero wala naman tayong ano mang nakikita na naitutulong ng CBCP. Bakit hindi umangkahi ng CBCP ang kanilang pag babayad sa buwis? Sa halip na pakialaman ang pag gawa ng batas ng gobiyerno bakit hindi mag isip ang CBCP kung papaano makakatulong para makakaahon sa kahirapan tayong mga Pilipino? Alam na natin ang sagot ng mga pare: tayo ay mag dasal at manawagan para sa ikagiginhawa nating mga Pilipino.

    • joshmale2004

      Sasabihin lang ng mga yan sa Gobyerno. “pag pinagbayad nyo kami ng tax, ang diyos ang pinagbabayad nyo kaya pupunta kayo sa impiyerno”. Yan lang naman kaya nilang ipantakot sa tao.

  • UrHONOR

    SAWSAW na naman ng kete SAWSAW!  Talagang binabastos na sadya ang pamamalakad ng bansa ng mga TNL na ‘to.  Dapat dyan sa mga yan ay HUWAG na lang PANSININ dahil emasculated na ang mga yan sa mata ng lipunan.  Mabut pa yong mga ibang religious organizations- hindi nakiki-alam sa gawain ng pamahalaan.  ANAK ng PUGA, hindi na nagbabayad, gusto pang makibatbat na ang tingin nila sa kanilang sarili ay na-iiba sila sa iba pa. HOY….mga phareiseong linta ng bansa, hindi kayo na-iiba sa lahat…..sa katunayan, mas masahol pa ang samahan ninyong patong-patong ang kaso mulang pang-aabuso ng mga bata, pagnanakaw, illegal trading hanggang sexual molestation.  Wala pa dyan yong pangongorap at pakikilahok sa korapsiyon ng pamahalaan, lalo na nung panahon ni gloria. PHSAW!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Predictable.

    Fortunately, more and more are realizing that Melvin Castro is an idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

     Right, the separation of church and state thing that the ignoramus still fail to understand.  They parrot the same line ALL the time.  That’s what I call predictable.

    To the ignoramus, the separation of church and state does not mean that the church cannot voice her opinion.  Last time I checked, the priests, the bishops, the archbishops are still Filipinos.

    • bydasea

      I don’t think the Church is only voicing their opinion. Their presence in the house voting is a show of force and a proof that the CBCP intend to sway some congressman into voting against the RH Bill.

      In the United States, the term is an offshoot of the phrase, “wall of separation between church and state”, as written in Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.”

    • joshmale2004

      The way I see it, the Church is not giving an opinion. They are directly threatening the Government that they will do everything until they die to reverse the RH Bill becoming a law. They will also use their pulpit to fight the Government. And they are personally going to the Congress and marching on the Street to denounce the PRO RH Bill congressmen. These actions are not justified as expressing an opinion only.

      • $20722540

        the church threatening the gov’t?  give me a break!  if the priests and bishops are going to congress, its just part of the lobbying process just like what the under performing cabinet men were doing in congress the other night.  what is appalling is the use of “pork barrel” by this pnoynoy administration to get the “yes” vote and support for the coming election.  so the whole exercise is about corruption of the highest order.

      • joshmale2004

        Can you prove your “pork barrel” theory? Easy to throw accusation but without proof, it’s hearsay. And by the way, just go to Article II, Section 6 of our Constitution to answer your question about church lobbying.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        asus, proof…a yellow zombie will never appreciate any proof…so no need….

      • Jane Tan

        Answer that avoids the question, nice.

      • $20722540

        i have no plan of going to court…no proof needed. hearsay??? yong sinusulat mo hearsay din naman.  so??? pa article article ka pa 

    • Jane Tan

      Lol… Were they there when the Sin Tax Bill was being passed? Cybercrime?

      Mentioning a Catholic vote and organizing against pro-RH congressmen in the upcoming elections is not voicing your opinion, its pushing it. Its obvious that they want congressmen that will agree with them.

      Stop kidding yourself.

      This battle is more than just the RH Bill. Its about how influential they are in the Philippines. If the CBCP lose this fight, I guarantee you that they will lose followers, or atleast, they fear that they will. And that other religions will be on equal-footing.

      Do you honestly think that, with everything at stake here, the CBCP are only voicing their opinions? You truly haven’t seen the bigger picture.

  • UrHONOR

    PARA sa mga inootil at mga mangmang na kaisipan, ang RHbill ay pawang tungkol sa CONDOM.  Pagpapasensyahan na lang ninyo ang mga salat sa kaisipan dahil yan lang ang kayang abutin ng kanilang yutak.  At yon namang gumagamit ng diyos-diyos sa usapan, hindi ba kayo kinikilabutan sa mga pinagsasabi ninyo na pati diyos ay kinakasangkapan ninyo sa negosyo ninyo?  Anak ng PUSA, paano ninyo nalaman kung ano ang gusto ng diyos?  Haka-haka at sapantaha ninyo, pinalalabas ninyong katotohanan na may halo pang PANANAKOT!  PSHAW!!! 

    • simondj

      wala naman talaga nakakakilala sa Diyos, except the begotten son of God. he introduced him. Paul writes,,, who has known the mind of God so as to instruct Him? but we have the mind of Christ,,,
      your honor, hindi ka ba nagtataka, habang may mga politico na nagdedeposito sa swiss bank may roon din tao na nagbibigay ng kanyang kayamanan sa gawain ng Diyos?
      ang sagot po diyan,,, we have the mind of ———.

      • UrHONOR

        EXCEPT the…that’s all hearsay.  The source is nothing but hearsay.  The theory is nothing but speculation.  No CERTAINTY, only conjectures. “WE”?  Not me….most definitely not me…I don’t fall for that chicanery…ANYMORE.  We all must use our own intelligence and winnow the chaff from the grain, not depend on anyone else’s persuasion and beliefs, esp when one has tucked on considerable experiences in his life.  Life is but a series of experiences.

        WALA akong pinagtatakhan sa buhay na ito na ang kahit na ano ay maaaring mangyari. At lalong wala akong interes sa usapan na may kahalong diyos-diyos na pawang theory lamang at kaechosan.  Ang mahalaga ay ang pakikipag-kapwa at hindi ang diyos-diyos na ginagamit lamang sa pangsindak.  That’s all bologna.

        May tinanong ka, tapos sinagot mo din ng tanong na may tanong pa….sinusukat mo ba ang kakayahan ko…o, nag-qui-quiz show ka?

      • simondj

        a ganoon po pala, akalo ko kasi tanong mo bakit narinig/nakausap ang Diyos, ngayon ang sagot ko naman mayroon talagang ganoong tao.

      • UrHONOR

        AH, ganuon po ba?  Hindi ko po tinanong kung BAKIT, kundi PAPAANO….not WHY but HOW.  At sadyang may ganun nga pong mga tao tulad ni Manalo ng INK at JSmith ng LDS.  Salamat po.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

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    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      SEARCH IN YOUTUBE MAYOR ATIENZA ABORZIONIST TYPE MO KASABWAT JAN SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO NASAN NA A.K47 KO AT UUBUSIN KO NA MGA DAMASO”’

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLN7DWHPJSNQZQJKZQ4LEU4VKE LabuyoB

    RH bill is corruption par excellence! Monetary corruption can be recovered not by infusing money from those corrupt but by “daang matuwid.” It is by being moral, doing just and right that perceptions and confidence of people greatly improve. This can be seen in the economic recovery of our country. Mr. President, why can’t you apply your daang matuwid to higher values in life? If money is gained with daang matuwid much much more higher values will be experiential. If we value money to solve our economic poverty, don’t we value all the more our moral standing that enriches our spirits?

    • Jane Tan

      Once income per capita rises, economic growth will be experienced by more people and quality of life increases. Wait for it.

  • bydasea

    I have flag this as inappropriate. Get a life mxsclxmxn!

  • bydasea

    I have flag this as inappropriate. Get a life mxsclxmxn!

  • Rae_E

    Of course the RH bill is “urgent” because it’s long overdue as it languished in congress for 14 long years due to CBCP’s vicious lobbying. If PNoy did not certify it as urgent then it’ll be derailed again because these bishops & their stooges in congress tried all  dilatory tactics to postpone voting until next year w/c if they were successful would derail it due to 2013 elections & they threatened pro-RH congressmen to be “outvoted” too. That’s how manipulative & deceitful these bishops are & now they’re crying foul?! They even have the gall to accuse the president to “be stained by the blood of the innocent unborn who will be deprived of the right to life because of contraceptive use,” when they’re the ones who ignore the plight of women actually resorting to abortion & dying because of complications? Stop meddling w/ state’s affairs bishops but instead sell your possessions & go to Cateel, Baganga, Compostela Valley & New Bataan to restore the victims of Pablo if you’re truly pro-life!

    • $20722540

      what is urgent about the bill?  will it “restore the victims of pablo”  btw, its the responsibility of gov’t to take care of the victims of pablo, not the church.  omg! you are talking about women dying because of complications..abortions, blah, blah.  on the contrary, its the gov’t’s responsibility to provide the healthcare needs of pregnant mothers.  if they can allocate BILLIONs of pork barrel (now being used to get the “yes” vote) why not to them – any program that will directly address that concern eg. why not allocate budget at fabella hospital to improve its services…MILLIONs of pesos to make an impact.  

      • Jane Tan

        I believe the funds for health are partly from bills like sin tax which was made urgent.

        The government is catering to everyone in the country. Just because a part of the Philippines is suffering, doesn’t mean the government stops doing its duty for the other parts.

        The Church is also talking about “killing the unborn” etc etc. What are they doing to help the victims of Pablo? Prayer? That’s a great comfort to the people over there with no food and homes. Prayer can only do so much.

      • $20722540

        again its the responsibility gov’t institutions to help the typhoon victims nnnnnnooootttt the church duh!…sa bagal ng action ayon mga nagutom at naghihirap na walang pagkain…naglooting pa.  ano ginanawa ng presidenteng ire…nag photo pops lang tapos wala  ayyy! 

  • quirinomayer

    Pag si Padre Damaso nakialam, okey. Pag ang Presidente, bawal hahahaha. Mga Damaso. 

  • Ommm

     “We hope he realizes that this bill would lead so many into offending God by the mandatory sex education.”

    If only the catholic church were to teach themselves sex education they would learn it’s quite unnatural for grown priests to molest boys by the thousands. Worldwide over 75%  of the victims are male.

    Germany’s Roman Catholic Church revealed  that at least
    66 clergy members had been accused of sexually abusing children and
    adults over a 10-year period, with most of the victims
    male.

    The Australian Church has confirmed to a parliament inquiry that
    approximately 620 children have been victims of church officials,
    including priests and church workers. Campaigners insists the true number of abuse victims could be up to 10,000 in Australia’s state of Victoria alone.

    Philadelphia is unusual in that the archdiocese has been the subject of
    not one but two grand jury reports. The first, in 2005, found credible
    accusations of abuse by 63 priests, whose activities had been covered up
    by the church. But there were no indictments, mainly because the
    statute of limitations had expired.

    The catholic church faced a new set of damaging allegations in the Netherlands
    in 2010. Nearly 2,000 people had made complaints of sexual or physical
    abuse against the church, in a country with only four million Catholics,
    according to an investigation that issued a report in December 2010.

    In Belgium,
    after a tumultuous year following the resignation of a Roman Catholic
    bishop who admitted sexually abusing children, the church agreed to compensate
    some of the hundreds who claimed that they were also victims of
    clerics. A report by a commission set up by the church said in 2010 that
    13 people were believed to have committed suicide as a result of sexual
    abuse by clerics.

    This list just goes on forever and doesn’t include USA, Canada or many other places….

    • joshmale2004

      Well maybe they thought that when God created mankind, they thought that God created first Adam and Evan, and not Adam and Eve.

    • UrHONOR

      This MUST be reposted again and again and again till it finally sets in the thalami of the men dressed in white, esp those with red beanie hats.  By then, hopefully, their focus and concentration will be on their own stinking yards rather than the motes of others’ eyes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER AT DESPERADO”

    • $20722540

      you are comparing apples to kamatis

  • Joy Lynn

    ang OA naman ang reaction ng CBCP…. 

  • bydasea

    At 93 million Filipinos vying for limited resources I wonder how fertility rate and population growth are declining this past few years. We are now number 12 in world population index. The Philippine population increased at the rate of 1.90 percent annually, on the average, during the period 2000-2010. This means that there were two persons added per year for every 100 persons in the population. How can you provide education and feed for a million more Filipinos if there are nothing in place to mitigate the supply and demand of our government resources.

    1  China   1,347,350,000  December 31, 20112  India   1,210,193,422  March 1, 20113  United States  314,936,000  December 14, 20124  Indonesia  237,641,326  May 1, 20105  Brazil   193,946,886  July 1, 20126  Pakistan  181,492,000  December 14, 20127  Nigeria  166,629,000  July 1, 20128  Bangladesh  152,518,015  July 16, 20129  Russia  143,300,000  October 1, 2012 10  Japan  127,547,000  June 1, 201211  Mexico  112,336,538  June 12, 201012  Philippines  92,337,852  May 1, 2010

    Census Year  Census  Reference Date   Philippine Population  (in million) 2010   May 1, 2010   92.34 2000   May 1, 2000   76.51 1990   May 1, 1990   60.70

    • joshmale2004

      Well, while we are number 12 in population, we are number 72 in country size. Saan natin isasaksak mga ipapanganak next year?

      • ngidigop

        SA simbahan….. Ibubukas na ng mga pari at obispo 24/7 ang kanilang mansyon at mapalasyong simbahan, para sa mga” street kids”.  Malaki naman income nila and it’s “tax free”, walang nagaaudit sa kanila at di sila magagalaw ng BIR.

  • ryan andres

    Uyyy!!! May mga talunan na nagbukas ng account para lang mamburaot :)

  • ryan andres

    Yung ibang mga anti-RH parang mga baklang may Tourette’s Syndrome… kung makapaghuramentado akala mo nalugi sa mahjong…wehehe

    Why is that, anyway? Observation lang, so ang tamaan eh guilty… why is it that you anti-RH sarado katolikos always resort to name calling pag di nyo nakukuha gusto nyo? Is that what your church teaches you? Or you’re just taking the lead from your lovely priests and bishops?

    Is it really a case of monkey see, monkey do with you people? Tsk tsk tsk…

    • joshmale2004

      The answer to that is very simple. Actually they don’t understand what they are defending. Napag utusan lang sila at kaunting briefing.Kaya pag inulan mo na sila ng tanong at detailed arguments, magpapanic na at idadaan na lang nila sa murahan argument nila.

      • ryan andres

        Parang mga pala sa perya pala :) Or mga hakot ng mga politician para pumalakpak…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        hakot ng malacanang ang nanduon, carandang, ochoa, rosales and of course lovely mar….

      • ryan andres

        at least apat lang ang hakot. sa inyong mga katoliko andami. like sheep in a butcher’s row… when the priest says jump, you say how high.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      and look at your own post…..

      • ryan andres

        well, am not catholic.

        what’s your excuse?

  • $20722540

    i think the rh bill is about life of the unborn child.  if it is about supply and demand of gov’t resources…if there is more demand than supply, then you increase your supply.  but how can you increase supply when politicians is only interested about themselves, about enriching themselves.  there is just too much corruption and politics which i think is the root cause of all our problems.

    • joshmale2004

      Are you referring to GMA’s corruption?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        you can read the post again….

      • $20722540

        you can answer your own question stupid

      • joshmale2004

        Hahaha. Typical answer from persons without valid arguments.

      • $20722540

        paano pulpol yong tanong mo 

      • $20722540

        in other words i don’t bite to stupid questions

    • Jane Tan

      Corruption will always be there. Do you think even Singapore is safe? Their government people are paid insanely high to prevent corruption – which is, in essence, kind of like corruption.

      • $20722540

        gulo ng sagot alam mo muna kong ano talaga stand mo para hindi contracting statements mo 

    • Htee

      Are you telling us to work harder and stay ignorant? Well, RH Bill is all ’bout choices, so you can choose that, but please dont choose for others. And don’t use false arguements to instill fear on others who can do better economics than you.

      • $20722540

        basahin mo original post para relevant sagot mo

  • edm365f31

    This is not about population control its about having a choice to responsibly bring up a child into this world; being educated enough to do this.

    I don’t get it how a parent would knowingly have children and not have a way of feeding them; its ignorance.  This law will allow them to become an educated responsible parent.The Church should concentrate to clean up their own backyard; child molestation; using politicians funds to buy their Suv’s and these all goes unpunished; because the church  and the church protect their own.

  • Isagani Gatmaitan

    Konting dasal na lang…. Divine intervention will get the RH bill through!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003170753516 Force Gunner

    ..Catholics propagate and increase their numbers trough population boom.. … only when an infant is baptized inside a catholic family does the catholic church increase its flock.. not by spreading the words of God or evangelical means……this is the REAL and ONLY reason why they are anti-RH bill….any measure that controls population boom is bad news for them! And the only family planning method the Catholic Church wants for its flock is the Natural Method….why? Well ask father Damaso…. and the sisters of tomasians and la salleans.. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EMLKTEIB5AE3BXNNWUAGXEIIAI Pedro Gil

    “We have to continue praying. Let’s wait for divine intervention. I know God will do something before Aquino signs the RH (bill) into law,”

    Therefore, if after all the fervent prayers have been said, and  still,  the RH bill are signed into law, could that mean God sided with the pro-RH Bill and did not listen to these religious state intervenors? After a possible passage of the bill, would that still be called DIVINE INTERVENTION?

    • Htee

      Sorry po, but what popped up into my mind right away is that, they are praying for something drastic or calamity to happen just to stop the signing the bill into law. Just like when they said that ‘pablo’ was designed as a wrath of the ALMIGHTY. Maybe it’s just me but when you put the two statement side by side, you would come up with the idea that they are praying for another ‘PABLO’.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        yes, it’s just you…..

  • Htee

    Tingin ko, deep, deep, deep down inside ng mga anti RH at mga pari at obispo, ay hindi rin naniniwala sa mga pinagsasabi nila. Hula ko si tagle napapangiti yan pagnagiisa at naiisip sa dami nillang nalokong pilipino.

  • batangsulpok

    Halos  mga taong tutol sa RH Bill, lalo na yun mga lalake ay kunwari akala mo kung sinong mga relihiyoso pero sa tutuo ay may itinatagong mga baho kasi marami sa kanila ang may mga babae o kabit kahit may mga asawa na siguradong gumagamit sila ng condom o di kaya ay sinasabihan ang mga babae na gumamit ng contraceptives para hindi mabuntis kaya MGA PLASTIK, magpakatutuo kayo.

    • joshmale2004

      Actually, itago man nila, lalabas din baho nila. According to a DOH report, the total 1.7M babies born registered in 2010,  the total registered number of babies born out of wedlock, meaning illegitimate is 711 thousand. This is a recorded fact and that’s 40% of the total babies born that year.

      • Jane Tan

        Lol. Even without the numbers, this is plain as day. People who don’t realize this should get out more.

    • Ganymede

      Teka, si Bong Revilla ba tinutukoy mo? lol

    • ngidigop

      Isama mo na rin ang mga pari, kapag naipasa ang RH Bill, makakaavail na ng informations itong mga bishops at pari na eto, at mababawasan na ang Maria Clara.

  • Billy Reyes

    RH BILL is a basic protection, not even tackling the argument of abortion; Conservative catholic countries like Italy, Ireland, Spain etc., had advance so much when it comes to their family planning laws.

    Last month an Indian Woman died in Ireland of miscarriage because the doctor was too late to remove the fetus immediately because there still heartbeat & abortion is illegal in this country as a result of that the woman died for complication. 
    Now they are reviewing the law for abortion for possible change. What about people that had been pregnant by raped?? that’s very unfair for them to bear the child & be prosecuted if they abort it.

    Philippines RH Bill is not even talking about abortion law, why not give this a chance.

    • Ganymede

      Actually the only problem of these Anti-RH people is the provision for modern family planning method. But if they will argue on that subject alone, they will surely lose. That is why they are obfuscating it with abortion since they know that everyone is against abortion. By making abortion looks the same as contraceptives (i.e. modern family planning method), they hope that (gullible) people will support their cause.

    • Jane Tan

      Because it MIGHT legalize abortion, MIGHT legalize pre-marital and extra-relations, MIGHT legalize divorce.

      Lol… which is funny because many of us who are pro-RH do not condone these and, should there ever be a Bill that will legalize any of these, would staunchly stand against it.

      • Htee

        But all of the above you mentioned are all of different story. We’ll think of something when we get to the bridge.

      • Jane Tan

        Don’t I know it. Though I’ve seen way too many “MIGHT” posts to disregard this as an answer to your question :)

      • Htee

        Hehe…I was just dumbfounded on why a lot of people are even considering the arguements of the anti bill as if it is an arguement. Are there really a lot of pacquiaos in our congress? Hayssssss ! ! ! !

  • JOSE RIZAL

    CBCP, what are your programs to alleviate poverty, shelter the homeless, feed the hungry, carry the yoke of thy brothers and sisters? none except sermons at pulpits and convenience of your edifices. u don’t even go out to work with the poorest of the poor nor shed some coins out of your coffers that you feed to your masters at the vatican. shut up.

  • mangtom

    I have an idea why the prayer frenzy that the cone head bishops are engaged in is not effective. You see, they pray to St. Mary, Calungsod and all those other saints. Ang kaso, tinatamad siguro itong mga saints na i-relay yong prayers ng unggoy na CBCP kaya hindi nalaman ni God. Ano ang remedio: pray directly to God. Sabi pati siguro ng God, sige magtiwala kayo sa mga santong mga yan. Walang maitulong mga yan kasi ako rin ang magdedecision-in short, I am the BOSS.

    So what to do? Cone heads, address your prayer directly to God. Forget those go-between or fixers. You are wasting valuable time-yan malapit na ang Lunes. 

    Pass the RH bill. Thank you.

    • joshmale2004

      Your idea is very correct mangtom. Mababasa yan sa New Testament at ang nagsabi mismo ay ang anak ng Diyos na si Jesus Christ. Kaso ang sinasabi ng mga sagradong katoliko, peke ang mga Bible ng mga hindi katolikong simbahan dahil pinagpapalitan. Kung 50 ang religion sa pinas. yung 49 bible na magkakapareha eh fake at ang 1 na nasa katoliko ang tunay na Bible.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        at nag 2nd the motion naman ang isa pang born against…..hehe

      • joshmale2004

        “I am the Way the Truth and the Life. Unless you be born again, you will never enter the Kingdom of God”. JESUS said. So shut up and let us be with our Christian belief. You go on with your search for the Kingdom of God thru Calungsod and I don’t care.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        again, very literal interpretation ….very born against…..duh

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      another very typical ignorant generic comment of a born against who does not exactly know the Catholic faith….

  • Htee

    Just like the bishops who are putting psychological pressures on the pro RH Bill, this cong rodrigues is whinning bout the executive branch putting pork barrel pressure on the anti RH Bill. What’s the matter cong? Cant take the heat? Get out of the kitchen then.

  • MelorisV

    If the CBCP will be responsible and promise to settle all the bills of all the unborn child from conception, birth, up to his teen years, in every “squatters area”, “depressed areas”, “remote provinces”, etc. Then by all means I for one would go against the RH bill but if the CBCP can’t (for which I am sure) then just help and support to implement the RH bill. Instead of making threats and dividing the Filipino people.  

  • tgomeziii

    How many more times must the truth be drilled into brains of these sacerdotal imbeciles?Contraception forestalls the emergence/existence of a foetus.  Prevention is NOT deprivation. The NON-existing cannot be deprived of anything.  This Melvin Castro has crossed the borderline.  He is meddling in the affairs of State.  It is quite evident that this  “CBCP exec.” is an opinionated ignoramus. Hey, zealot,  your dogma will never be a match to karma!!!

    • rinom

      this world came out of nothing, meaning the world that exist now came from non-existence at all. God spoke the word and it was created.  please define what do you mean about non-existence.

  • nes911

    To castro and cbcp: its none of your business.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      unfortunately for you, they are filipino citizens too….they are as free as mar roxas, carandang, akbayan, ochoochoa, and the other malacanang raraboys to express support or rejection of this bill….

  • $31552910

    Some countries with better standard of living or quality of life have larger populations or higher population densities than the Philippines. Population growth can boost the economy and create economies of scale. The fast-growing economy of the Philippines is being driven by its youthful population. The Philippines is the third fastest-growing economy, after China and India. The population density (pop./sq. km) of the Philippines (308) is lower than Singapore (7,280), Bahrain (1,631), Taiwan (644), South Korea (503), Netherlands (497), Lebanon (421), India (382), Belgium (365), Israel (359), and Japan (338). The population of the Philippines is an asset instead of a detriment. Promoting fair political and economic systems is the more responsible, humane, and effective policy against poverty and corruption. The terms “overcrowding” and “overpopulation” have different meanings. Overcrowding in major urban centers does not necessarily mean overpopulation. The rural areas of the Philippines are not overcrowded or overpopulated. Manila is not a confined area, unlike a petri dish. Freedom of movement or freedom to travel is guaranteed by the Philippine Constitution. Improvements in communication technologies and infrastructure are expanding business and employment opportunities beyond the major urban centers. Many countries are now reversing their RH policies. The RH bill is a step backward for the Philippines.

    • artz555

      In measuring the standard of living or quality of life of a country, the density or people per area ( or per sq. km ) does not count. The standard living of a country is reflected in the per capita GDP, or the GDP ( which is the total goods and services produced by a country ) divided by it’s population. Hence,
       – – -Singapore with a GDP of 314 billion US dollars and a population of only 5 million has a         per capita GDP of about $ 54,000.,
       – – -Taiwan with a GDP of 902  billion US dollars and a population of only 23 million, has a per capita GDP of about $ 38,500.,
      – – – South Korea with a GDP of 1.6 trillion dollars with a population of only 50 million people, has a per capita GDP of $ 32,400.,
       – – – Netherlands with a GDP of 704 billion dollars and a population of only 16.7 million people has a per capita GDP of $ 42,180.,
        – – -Japan with a GDP of 4.4 trillion dollars and a population of only 127 million people has a per capita GDP of $ 34,746.
      – – -USA with a GDP of 15 trillion dollars and a population of only 315 million people has a per capita GDP of $ 48,396.
          – – -Malaysia with a GDP of 472 billion dollars and a population of only 28 million people, has a per capita GDP of $ 16,186.
      – – -Thailand with a GDP of 617 billion dollars and a population of only 66.7 million has a per capita GDP of $ 9,396,
      – – -China with a GDP of 11 trillion dollars with a population of 1.3 billion people has a per capita GDP of just $ 8,380.,
          – – -India with a GDP of 4.4 trillion dollars and a population of 1.2 billion people has a per capita GDP of just $ 3,693.,
          – – and the Philippines with a GDP of 412 billion dollars and a population of 92 million people has a per capita GDP of just $ 4,214. ( All figures from Wikipedia )

            Hence, for PH to catch up with the  high per capita GDP rich countries, has to maintain a slower population growth rate by passing the RH bill.

      Pass the RH bill now.

  • dickenhead

    why don’t ypu all go & jump in the cliff? so sore losers

  • UrHONOR

    How many times must the RH bill passed
    Before it’s called a law ?
    How many times must CBCP see
    Before she accepts it has failed ?
    Yes, how many times must the people cry
    Before they’re heard by their heads?
    The answer my friend is written on the wall.
    The answer is written on the wall.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WETOXTDBOZKG6SACBQO5O4GRY4 yunalesca

    Let the women decide what they want for their bodies. I, for one, do not want males to decide for me. Especially someone who believes in the ‘big daddy in the sky’ as their basis.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

      kase ang gustong magdesisyon para katawan ng mga kababaihan ay ang mga baklitang pari at obispo..frustrated sila hinde kase kepyas ang binigay sa kanila ng diyos…..

    • txtman

      YAN ANG SINABI NG MGA ABORTIONISTA SA EUROPA AT AMERIKA

      QUESTION

      PAPAANO NAMAN ANG MGA WALANG MUWANG NA MGA BATA?

      PITIFUL

  • Mitchel

    “WALANG MAHIRAP KUNG PAPATAYIN NATIN ANG MAHIRAP”

    The above proposition is problematic and stupid.  The engine of economic growth are “PEOPLE.”  How could they not realize that? Even if you sex-maniacs don’t believe in God, you should at least be able to recognize that people are valuable economic assets.  If you are so evil not to consider people as sacred, then at least you should be able to see the huge economic gains when you educate and empower large number of work force.

    The government is changing the rules of the game.  Instead of performing their constitutional duties of empowering people, they instead decided to kill the poor.  They instead want to destroy valuable economic assets.  Who among you will burn loads of cash (assets) because you cannot manage it? Now if government fails to manage human resources, are they going to end their lives?  If they cannot do their job, they better resign.  

    While countries around the world attributed the effectiveness of Filipino overseas workers to the work ethics, good moral values, and faith in God, the government of the Philippines is having a different take.  Its dumb, really dumb.

    One more thing, without the poor, the economy will fall.  If all of us are so rich, who will do the plumbing?  The poor people are a great blessing.  And Jesus emphasized that if you welcome the poor, you welcome Him.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      MARAMING MAHIRAP MARAMING DESPERADO”’ TAKBO SA SIMBAHAN’ DIYOS TATAWAGIN”’ PARA MALAKAS ABULOY AT BISNESS NI BISHOPS” KATOLIBAN”

      • txtman

        SABI SA ISANG KWENTO SA BIBLIA

        IKAW AY MAIHAHALINTULAD SA ISANG PUNO

        NA WALANG BUNGA

        KAYA ANG NARARAPAT SA IYO AY….

        BASAHIN MO NA LANG ANG BIBLIA

        PITIFUL

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SABI NI BISHOPS PAG LALABASAN KA IPUTOK MO DAW SA LOOB KASALANAN DAW PAG TINATAKPAN NG GOMA!! LABAG SA KAUTUSAN NG SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO AT NI SATANAS!! 

    • artz555

      High population growth countries like PH ( with pop. growth of 1.8 % to 1.9 % for years now, vs. 1. % and below, for countries like Thailand, South Korea, Japan or the US ) according to studies, is loosing the so-called ‘ demographic dividend ‘. This is happening because PH is spending a lot of it’s limited funds to take care of the dependent young, aged 1 to 19 yrs. old, instead of using these needed funds in nation building.

      Low population growth countries ( like South Korea, Malaysia, Japan, Germany, the US ) according to these studies, gain from this ‘demographic dividend ‘, because they only spend a very small amount on their few dependent young. These countries which are mostly the rich countries, use this ‘ dividend ‘ in more nation building activities, thereby lifting the living standards of its’ people.

      If PH needs to catch up with it’s more progressive neighbors and other developed countries, it should maintain a balanced or slower population growth, by passing the RH bill in Congress. With an effective RH , PH will gain from this ‘ demographic dividend ‘ by spending less on a small dependent young, and more on nation building activities. With this, PH will raise the living standards of every Filipino, who will be having bigger and bigger per capita GDP, for years and years to come.

       Pass the RH bill now.

      • txtman

        GANON BA?

        KAYA PALA

        MAY MGA PROGRAMS NA ANG

        JAPAN, GERMANY, SINGAPORE ETC

        TO ENCOURAGE THEIR PEOPLE

        TO HAVE MORE BABIES

        ANO DAW ULIT

        KAILANGAN DAW NG MASMADAMING MGA BABIES

        KASI DAW

        BABAKSAN DAW ECONOMY NILA

        KASI HINDI NA SAPAT MGA WORKERS NILA

        KAYA HAYAN

        PINAPALITAN NA SILA

        NG IBANG MGA LAHI

        MOST SPECIALLY

        MGA ARABO

        PITIFUL

      • artz555

        Yes txtman. These countries you mentioned Singapore, Japan, Germany, etc. are so rich, that they can give whatever incentives they want for their people, for whatever purpose. And they are just sitting pretty right now, and can of course hire only the OFWs’ that they need maybe for jobs their people may not want to do ; while countries like PH does know what to do with their increasing poor, and excess labor because of no effective RH.

        And who would you would you rather be ? The rich country that hires only OFWs’ that you need ? or the country that supllies OFW’s, wherein some of the OFWs  do not know what is waiting for them when they work abroad. And of course you already know the ‘ horror stories ‘ these OFWs have told everybody. Pitiful indeed.

        Pass the RH bill now.

  • UrHONOR

    >>>CBCP exec assails Aquino decision to certify RH bill as urgent<<<

    MAY katwiran din naman yong exec…..dapat nga naman hindi sinertify na URGENT yong RH bill…dapat kasi VERY URGENT!

  • beer_leader

    mamayang konti andito na ang mag syotang mga pedophile priests na sina  ____ at _____ na nagbabalatkayong mga ordinaryong bloggers  hehehe. sigurado yan sawsaw sa lahat ng komento. at ang siguradong sigurado puro malulutong na mura at pambabastos na naman ang lalabas sa mga banal nilang bibig.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      paranoid, defensive…..

      • beer_leader

        sabihin mo yan sa mga bishops wag sakin.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        nope, it fits you more…..

  • beer_leader

    ito po ang statement ni Father Lowe Dongor bago siya i extradite sa U.S.
    “I have to, and ready to pay for the terrible mistakes I committed to my
    God, my Church, my community, my family and myself. I wish I can change
    things and go back to my priesthood for that is what I have been
    dreaming of since I was six
    years old,” he told The Daily
    Guardian.yan po statement ni father dongor bago i extradite sa U.S . kamakailan lamang. tumakas siya mula U.S. at dito sa Pilipinas nagtago kaso nga lang di siya umubra sa U.S. Government na desidong papanagutin siya sa kanyang mga kasalanan.
    buti pa sa  ibang bansa pinapanagot na ang mga pedophiles na ito.
    kaya siguro ganun na lang ang pakikialam ng cbcp at ayaw nila mawala
    clout nila.natatakot sila siguro na pag wala na sila kapangyarihan sa
    gobyerno ay pwede na silang makulong din dito sa pilipinas sa
    nakakahiyang mga kaso ng pangmomolestiya na karamihan ay bata o menor de
    edad ang kanilang mga biktima.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      you’re out of line…..

      • beer_leader

         kinukwestyon ko nga ang mataas na moralidad ng mga ito kasi kini claim nila na sila lang ang may moral authority sa bayan natin.alam mo ba yung kinasangkutan ni bishop bacani sa kasong pangmomolestiya niya sa kanyang sekretarya na nakarating pa sa vatican ?ano naging stand ng mga bishop?as usual full support sila kay bacani .at ano ba ending?eh di wala ring nangyari sa kaso dahil nga sa clout ng simbahan .si bacani lang naman ang isa sa mga  nanguna pa sa pagmamartsa kontra rh bill. buti pa sabihan mo mga idol mong bishops na tumigil na sila sa pagmamalinis at wag ng pakialaman ang affairs ng estado.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        but you’re clearly stereo-typing…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    hello!

  • txtman

    NEXT YEAR

    HE WILL BE DIAGNOSED

    WITH CANCER

    COUPLED WITH COPD

    WHAT YOU SOW

    IS WHAT YOU REAP

    PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS LANG ANG AYAW SA R.H BILL CARNIVAL TAGLE SATANAS!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN AND CARNIBAL TAGLE SATANAS!!!

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