Lagman ‘elated’ over passage of RH bill

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RH Bill sponsor Albay Rep. Edcel Lagman describes his feeling of elation after the measure was passed on second reading before dawn Thursday. Karen Boncocan/INQUIRER.net

MANILA, Philippines—Cheers and hugs were abound at the plenary of the House of Representatives before dawn on Thursday after they passed the Reproductive Health Bill on second reading.

Albay Representative Edcel Lagman, the sponsor of House Bill 4244 otherwise known as the RH Bill, was positive that the 113-104 voting on the measure was already “virtually impossible” to change once it is put to vote for third and final reading.

Prior to its historic approval on second reading, the RH Bill was stuck at Congress for roughly 14 years. Lagman said its passage made him feel “elated.”

House majority leader Neptali Gonzales II said that Monday is the earliest time that the RH Bill can be put through third reading. After it is passed by that time, the approved version of the measure will be transmitted to the Senate which has its own version that is still pending voting on second reading.

But Cagayan de Oro Representative Rufus Rodriguez saw the next voting on the bill as an opportunity to change its fate, saying that nothing was impossible. He added that the voting turnout next time could change once legislators who were absent on second reading turn up.

There were 217 legislators present during session, forming a quorum. As per latest count of the House of Representatives’ public relations and information bureau they are made up of 284 solons.

He said that they were sure to overturn the votes once those unable to make it to the second reading show up for final voting next week.

But Lagman seemed unperturbed by this statement, telling reporters that the nominal votes on second reading was very telling of the strength of the pro-RH group at the lower chamber of Congress.

The RH Bill could have been passed Wednesday night through voice vote, the method of voting usually used for second reading, but nominal voting pushed through after a motion from the measure’s opponents. In the end, the RH Bill was still passed but early morning on Thursday.

The Albay legislator urged opponents of the bill to shift to their side, confident that the results of the upcoming final reading would be similar to that of nominal voting for second reading.

“In the third reading, our margin of victory will be greater,” he said.

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  • alienpatriot

    This is a great moment for the Philippines. In 10 years time the opponents will see that abortion is still not legal but that the poor will finally be started on their journey to a fair and reasonable life. We are on the way.

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    The Devil from Cagayan de Oro was vanquished by Our Lady of Guadalupe.  And to think the latter is just an alter-ego of the Virgin Mary, while the former is ego personified.

  • mangtom

    The RH bill is on the right track. March on, pro-RH. Victory is within sight.

  • dickenhead

    keep it up rodriguez there is no turning back now- very soon we the taxpayers who is paying your salary will terminate your employment and so with your other cohorts who is beholden to the priests & bishops who is against our country’s progress

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Yeah, I wonder what he was doing while his constituents were getting scammed by AMAN futures?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Here’s hoping Lagman is right.

    Well done, Cong. Lagman.  I’m not a fan, as I still remember your past associations, but if you get this through the country will be in your debt.

  • Padre Agaton

    good luck lagman and company.

    kudos to the brave 104 who stood and fought until the end.

  • ApoLapullapu

    Before the typhoon season next year, the next to be evacuated must be Albay and the Bicol Region.  The Congreswsman will be spared because he is in Manila most of the time.

    • IsipPinoy

       Another irrational being playing god.

  • Maldi2

    No to RH Bill!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      so sorry for you.

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Damasos losing their grip. Aye Rhbill

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

    sino pa ang bubuto sa mga iyon mga criminal ang mga iyon

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    http // globalnation inquirer net/59379/chinas-mining-occupation-of-the-philippines#comment-733963225

    Mga congresspipol: Yung mga pagnanakaw ng yamang mineral ng China ang asikasuhin niyo. Kahit dumami ang Pinoy kung marami trabaho at maginhawa ang buhay ang pinoy walang problema. Nandito na ang mga intsik at minimina na ang buong Pinas. Huwag niyo namang paabutin ng 14-years ang pag-gawa ng batas laban sa illegal na pagmimina at smuggling ng minerals. Komo kahit hindi na kayo kumayod tulad namain mahihirap e hindi niyo na papansinin ang problema ito. Wala sa scarborough shoal ang problema… nandito na sa loob ng bansa ang mga intsik at nakangiting humahakot ng yaman ng pinoy. HOOOY!

  • UrHONOR

    MGA matutunog na tampal sa mga naka-sayang puti’t helmet:

    Pands…….Tampal!

    Corona……Tampal na naman!

    RH bill…….Pa-ulit-ulit na tampal! (nagpapatunay yong power-power from our father is fairy tale; mary?  fairy tale; church vote? pabula; ; greatest insult to faith?  YES!; bisa ng edsa rally-rally? BO.

    Nawa’y magsilbi na ng gintong aral ito sa mga TNL na sanctimonious na makalumang mga phariseo na mahihilig sa pakikisawsaw sa sabaw ng may sabaw.  Nawa’y ang pagtuunan nila ng madiin na pansin ang mga “magic” na pinaggagawa ng mga kabaro nila.  Nawa’y matuto at mabuksan ang mga nakapikit o nakatikom na mga mata ng mga fabulously wealthy na naka-bestidang puti na BUKSAN ang kanilang umaapaw na kaban para sa mga naghihikahos na kabayan at i-pamahagi ito ng lubusan at hindi sa pamamagitan ng istampi-isatampita at rosa-rosaryo.  Ang kailangan ng mga kabayan ay pagkain, hindi rosaryo at istampita. At nawa’y pakinggan nila ang nakakatulig na SIGAW ng PAGBABAGO sa kanilang pamamaraan ng pakikipag-kapwa sa kanilang mga kabayan.  Hindi sila nakakataas o na-iiba sa kahit na kanino… Pinoy ba din sila. Ang pagkaka-iba lamang ay yang TNL na sayang-puti na ang hirap intindihin kung bakit iginigiit pa yang kasuotang yan na hindi naman nababagay sa klima ng bayan, bukod sa pinagmumukha silang mga sister sa halip na mga brother.

    • litobetita

      Kawawa ka naman. Ang dami mong nakikitang mali sa Relihiyon ng iba. Yan ba ang gawain mo araw-araw, mag resarch at magsabi ng ng kung anu-ano against the Catholic Church. Kung ganyan ang mga ugali nating pinoy na hindi marunong gumalang sa paniniwala ng iba na ginagaratiya naman ng constitution natin, eh hindi talaga tayo magkakaisa at uunlad…..kahit sako-saku pang condom at pills ang ipamahagi sa atin. Sa mga ganitong usapin, kailangan dito ang intelligent na pag-uusap hindi yung hahaluan ng kung anu-anong paratang na walang katuturan. Despite ng mga paninira ninyo sa simbahan, wala pa din naniniwala…..sa katunayan RC contnuously grows to more than billion followers around the world……patunay na ang RC will “live forever till the end of time”.    

      • IsipPinoy

        Di mo ba alam na kaya tayo binigyan ng utak ay para mag-isip, manaliksik ng sa gayun makita natin ang katotohanan. Wika nga “The truth shall set you free.” Kontra ka sa mga sumasaliksik dahil ayaw mong malaman ng mga tao ang katotohanan tungkol sa Caholic Church. You want respect for your church then respect also the separation of religion and state. If the Catholic Church is meddling in government affairs then every citizen has the right to know more about that religion.

      • litobetita

        Tama ka dyan…bingyan tayo ng utak para mag-isip kaya nga nagtataka ako sa iyo eh. By being a catholic, we did not stop being a citizen of the Philippines. Kaya ako at maging ang mga kaparian ay may paki-alam sa usapin ng pamahalaan. Lahat ng Religion ay nakiki-alam, maging anti or pro sa RH Bill. Mas malakas lang ang bose ng RC kasi nakakarami kami at more than 80 percent ng population. Yung dating kasi ng pagsasalita ng iba dyan eh walang pakundangan sa Religion namin eh samantalang wala naman kaming sinasabi sa Religion nila. Kung mambatikos ng mga pare eh akala mo ganun na lang kalinis samantalang sa pagasalita lang ay makikita mo na pagkatao. Okey lang mag express ng opinion pero yung mga paratang mo sa simabahan na akala mo ay tama, para sa amin ay mali.

      • IsipPinoy

        You may be right that Catholics comprise 80% of the population but at least 70% of that number support the RH bill. And we’re no talking about the individual church members but the hierarchy of the Church. It is not supposed to meddle in state affairs otherwise should be taxed. Pari o hindi dapat batikusin kung nagkakamali. By the way, anong paratang ba sa mga pari na sa palagay mo ay mali. Tell us so that we can discuss.

      • litobetita

        Walang survey na nangyari kaya di mo masasabi kung ilang percent ang panig dyan…..at kahit may survey man,  di pa rin yan 100 percent sure. So saan mo nakuha ang 70 percent? Gaya ng sabi ko sa other blog, in our house alone…..we are 10 and the count is 0-10. Zero sa pro at 10 sa anti. So may posibility na mas mahigit ang ayaw. Try to discuss it among your parents….among your family and you will see. Asking about paratang na sinasabi ko? Pumunta ka sa start ng blog na ito at makikita mo kung ano sinasabi ko. By giving comments that are not true and insulting, harmful to others should not be made. Mocking of priests, pastors and other religous leaders should not be made….may mga readers na sensitive. The church, the hierarchy and its people are one – since we believe in its teaching. We, the catholics will appreciate it if certain camps discuss the subject with respect. Think about what I am saying, check what other people are saying about our church and the priests in blogs and you will see my point…..why I react.                  

      • UrHONOR

        MAAWA ka sa SARILI mo!  Kung ano-anong kabulastugan ang pinagsasabi mo na hindi mo naiintindihan….nakikibakas ka lang sa mga naririnig mo sa mga damaso.  Ang URi mong kaTOLifk na kung ano-anong panghuhusga ang ginagawa sa kapwa ay kaTOLik na malasado.  ANONG SINABI KONG “ANU-ANO AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”?  BANO kang magbasa at kung ano-ano ang linalagay mo sa utak mo, tapos ikakarga mo sa iba?  MATUTO ka munang magbasa bago ka sumali sa usapang pang-adult.

        MARAMI ka pang kakaning binatog bago ka magkaroon ng IMPACT sa mga pinagsasabi mong kabulastugang ubod ng layo sa usapan. 

      • litobetita

        Ikaw yata ang di nakaka intindi ng sarili mong sinulat….basahin mong mabuti at maintindihan mo kung gaano ka kabastos. Kung anu-ano pang mga dialogue ginagamit mo na napulot mo lang sa lansangan. Pang adult na ba mga salitang ginagamit mo? Kawawa naman nakakabasang mga bata ng sinulat mo….UrHonor? Meron ka nyan?     

      • litobetita

        At wala akong kailangang kainin dahil sigurado ako na mas may experience ako, mas edukado at mas matanda kesa sa iyo.  O Ito sinulat mong pambabastos para naman malaman mo na binasa ko yan… Pati pag rorosaryo namin eh pinakikialaman mo

        “MGA matutunog na tampal sa mga naka-sayang puti’t helmet:Pands…….Tampal!Corona……Tampal na naman!RH bill…….Pa-ulit-ulit na tampal! (nagpapatunay yong power-power from our father is fairy tale; mary?  fairy tale; church vote? pabula; ; greatest insult to faith?  YES!; bisa ng edsa rally-rally? BO.Nawa’y magsilbi na ng gintong aral ito sa mga TNL na sanctimonious na makalumang mga phariseo na mahihilig sa pakikisawsaw sa sabaw ng may sabaw.  Nawa’y ang pagtuunan nila ng madiin na pansin ang mga “magic” na pinaggagawa ng mga kabaro nila.  Nawa’y matuto at mabuksan ang mga nakapikit o nakatikom na mga mata ng mga fabulously wealthy na naka-bestidang puti na BUKSAN ang kanilang umaapaw na kaban para sa mga naghihikahos na kabayan at i-pamahagi ito ng lubusan at hindi sa pamamagitan ng istampi-isatampita at rosa-rosaryo.  Ang kailangan ng mga kabayan ay pagkain, hindi rosaryo at istampita. At nawa’y pakinggan nila ang nakakatulig na SIGAW ng PAGBABAGO sa kanilang pamamaraan ng pakikipag-kapwa sa kanilang mga kabayan.  Hindi sila nakakataas o na-iiba sa kahit na kanino… Pinoy ba din sila. Ang pagkaka-iba lamang ay yang TNL na sayang-puti na ang hirap intindihin kung bakit iginigiit pa yang kasuotang yan na hindi naman nababagay sa klima ng bayan, bukod sa pinagmumukha silang mga sister sa halip na mga brother.”

  • tra6Gpeche

    This is an initial victory of the
    majority of the Filipinos especially those new couples embarking to
    have a family. The 113 lawmakers should be congratulated. More power
    to the sponsor of the RH bill 4244, Congressman Edcel Lagman of
    Albay!

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       I never liked Lagman, but I would like to congratulate everyone for voting for the RH Bill’s second reading.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2LBGIWPKSBM4HYJACU2VNXIFEU Jet H

    yeah… elated for his take on the RH and his bigger take on the pork barrel.  

  • $37644997

    Forget about the absentees and make this a final one.Jesus and Mother Mary are for real but they happen to be in Heaven.It takes one powerful one to make things happen.

    • Horst Manure

      Show me the proof????

      • IsipPinoy

         Ano pa ba namang proof kailangan mo. Nakita mo naman na despite your fervent prayers against it the RH bill still passed on 2nd reading. God answered our prayers and He rejected yours.

    • TotoyKalentong

      There’s a difference when God speaks and man claims he speaks for God. 

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    I would like to propose a toast to the passing of the 2nd reading of this bill.

    (raises vodka glass)

    May you be swift, may you be effective, may all our good intents guide you in your way to the betterment of the Filipino people.

    People, raise your glasses….

    TO THE RH BILL!

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       Too early for pure vodka,

      pass me the martini.

      • divictes

        Shaken or stirred, Sir?

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        YES.

        (as in both, one shaken and another stirred)

        lol

      • marionics

        single malt ang uso in my neck of the woods e he he

  • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

    Don’t even know why anti-RH are still anti-RH especially after the senators who voted NO gave out their reasons… Disturbing.

  • calixto909

    He who laughs last laughs the loudest. You, proponents are all in the state of elation this day but tomorrow might be different since 67 haven’ t yet casted their votes. The fight against evil is still aflame

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XEOS4BTVFV4OZX5UNCFOWQUB4Y Barbara

    Syempre tuwang-tuwa yan at matatanggap na rin nya ang pinangako ng mga foreign pharmaceutical companies na “hefty bonus”. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      sourgraping as usual hehe.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XEOS4BTVFV4OZX5UNCFOWQUB4Y Barbara

        Nope. Just reality. Condoms and birth control pills are multi-billion businesses. Foreign pharmaceutical companies have heavily funded lobbyists for the passage of this bill. Our population grow rate has been dropping steadily even without the RH bill. This is not about controlling our population. This is about money.

      • chiefsiop

        if you have evidence, file a case againts them. if none. he he! tumahimik

      • litobetita

        hahaha! Saan ka naman nakakita ng evidence against corruption? None in our history…..wala pa ngang na convict despite ng napakadaming cases. Di naman tanga yang mga yan para magbigay ng resibo…. naging trapo pa sila kung tatanga-tanga lang. Eh magulang pa yan sa mga tunay na magulang eh. At dahil walang evidence at resibo, ibig sabihin ba nyan walang corruption? Harap harapan na nga minsan eh di pa din mahuli. Dapat kung talagang concern sila sa pagdami ng population or responsible parenthood, makuntento sana tong magagaling na pro RH bill congressman sa isang asawa at isang pamilya hindi yung nagkakalat sila ng lahi nila kung saan-saan. May responsible parenthood ba na ganun? Tapos pakakanin lang ng galing sa nakaw? Gising pinas…..wag maging tanga sa pagpapa ikot ng mga pulitiko na ito.

      • chiefsiop

        tama! halos lahat ng bumoto laban s rh bill e mga corrupt, dalawa o tatlo ang asawa at gagawin lahat para magpapogi sa mga pari at madre para makakuha ng boto. wala rin akong ebidensya.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        You’re right, its not about controlling the population. Its about giving them a choice, not an accident.

        SM doesn’t raze trees for heck of it. Its as you say, about money. Do you organize against them as well? If not, bring your argument elsewhere. If someone gets rich because of this, its because they found their niche – a country whose masses just can’t seem to keep it in their pants.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

        Yes. It is the purse of Judas that is important and the honor that he wanted to have.  Either God or money and the pro rh voted for money.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Then put your money where your mouth is.

        Show us the receipt that such and such politicians got such and such amounts.

        Talk is cheap. If you’re really serious, file the necessary complaints in court.

      • TotoyKalentong

        So is every aspect of the government’s expenditures. Budget for defense benefits military arms suppliers/dealers; budget for education benefits book publishers and construction companies (for classrooms); budget for public works benefits construction companies. Do not oversimplify this as a money issue, everything that the government spends on equates to benefit a certain business sector. But of course, you should look at the benefits it can bring to its people. 

      • IsipPinoy

         You said “Condoms and birth control pills are multi-billion businesses.” So is religion like the Catholic church.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      The modern judases of rh bill will not only kill the children and the moral fiber of this country. They will also kill themselves.

  • Guest

     This was just the second reading. Not even if they “win” the 3rd reading is it sure if RH bill will really become law. The finality will be determined if in a bicameral meeting the politicians are able (and/or willed) to reconcile the senate and house versions and then respectively ratify it. The signature on that bill by the president would be just a formal thing. 

    PDI (and others like GMA) give(s) misleading headlines which is appalling for journalists who are supposed to be unbiased (save for opinion section) and as accurate as possible.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      didnt you say before that rh bill was dead?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      The Catholic Church and Bishops would try to use tricks to win.  Better watch out on these wolves in sheep’s clothing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      A bill passing the 2nd reading is like a 50% jump, bigger than passing the 1st.

    • AJ Giorgio

       well, at least they’re moving forward.

    • IsipPinoy

       Yes, it’s just the 2nd reading but it also created momentum for the possibility of the bill’s passage into law.

  • Horst Manure

    One giant step for the philippines … One giant leap for the Philippines 

  • chiefsiop

    wag po natin lokohin ang ating mga sarili. alam nating lahat na mas magandang mabuhay kung maganda ang quality ng pamumuhay ng mga pilipino. pag sobra ang anak at d kaya ng magulang suportahan, kawawa ang mga anak. tigilan na po natin ang sobra sobrang parami ng tao s buong mundo. darating ang panahon na d nanatin kayang pakainin ang lahat ng mga tao at mga tao na ang magpapatayan para makakain. its quality not quantity. tigilan na natin ang pag gawa ng mga pilipinong magiging katulong lang o construction worker lng. mahiya na tayo. Ayokong tawagin ang Pilipinas na bansa ng mga katulong.

    • litobetita

      What is wrong of being a “katulong” or “construction worker”? It is a noble job at di dapat ikahiya. Mas nakakahiya yung maging nation tayo ng magnanakaw at corrupt at mga pretenders. Hindi mawawala ang mga naghihirap hangga’t nandyan ang corrupt na sistema ng pamamalakad ng gobyerno. Kahit tambakan pa ninyo ng condoms at pills and buong bansa. Sana maka imbento kayo ng mga condoms na natutunaw at di makakadagdag sa mga plastic o goma na nakakasira sa environment……or else dahil sa milyun-milyon ang mga pinoy na gagamit nito eh siguradong matinding basura na naman ito.     

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Nothing wrong with being “katulong” or “construction worker” as long as its honest. In fact, many people underestimate their role in society. Hinde mo matatanggal ang corrupt sa kahit anong sistema unless parehas ang pagiisip ng mga tao. Malabo. Atleast one person in any company will surely have done something against a rule, no matter how small it may be.

        Hinde naman plano na tambakan ng condoms at pills ang bansa. Hinde mawawala ang naghihirap pero pwede bawasan ang paghihirap. Imagine 10% ng wealth ng buong bansa hinati sa 60-80% ng population as lower class. Pano kung lumaki yung 60-80% na yan tapos parehas parin ang size ng upper class na hawak ang 80-90%? Mas konti ang makukuha ng lahat ng nasa lower class.

        What we hope to happen is that the lower class will grow slower, along the same pace as the growth in the economy so they will see AND FEEL an actual difference when the economy improves. Kahit katulong ka or construction worker, mas okay kung mas mataas ang buwis mo.

      • chiefsiop

        naranasan mo na bang pumunta sa hong kong, singapore o uk at maranasan mong tawagin kang katulong kahit tourist k ? napakasakit! kung mas kokonti tayo mas maraming maitutulong ang gobyerno, mas maraming makakapag aral at maaring d n umalis ang isang nanay or tatay sa ibang bansa kc kaya na nyang pakainin ang dalawa o tatlo nyang anak kumpara sa anim o pitong anak.

      • litobetita

        For your information…..I am an OFW for more that 12 years now and working as a SR. Engineer for different foreign companies….at 5 different countries. Me and my colleagues are always carrying our flag literally…sa lahat ng project namin during inaugural nakasabit flag natin.    Di ko naranasan yang sinasabi mo. At kung maranasan ko man in the future, di ko ikakahiya yun dahil hindi naman napakataas ng tingin ko sa sarili ko saka lahat naman ay gamagawa ng paraan para mabuhay basta wala kang matatapakan at wala kang ginagawang masama….amen.  

      • AJ Giorgio

        Yes, there’s nothing wrong with being a “katulong” or “construction worker”. The point is, would you rather belong to the honest lower-class or the honest upper-class?

      • litobetita

        “Mas mabilis pang makakapsok ang camelyo sa butas ng karayom kesa sa mayaman na makarating sa langit”. Bakit? Dahil “you cannot serve 2 master’s at the same time”. Try your best para makarating sa patutunguhan pero dapat wag mo ikahiya ang pinaggalingan. Then kung di mo talaga makuha. makuntento ka kung anong kaya mo….just be proud na nagsikap ka. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    Lagman for senator? watchathink?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

       Lagman should join the Laglag party-list group.  He would be the only man…Lag-Man.

    • Facilitator1

      Hold your horses, Kabayan. I agree he did an outstanding job advocating for women and their children health rights but be mindful of the old saying, “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” and “a leopard can’t change its spots” on TRAPO politics. Be wary/cautious my friend…PEACE

      • chiefsiop

        mas maraming trapong bumoto laban sa rh bill.

      • Facilitator1

        Kabayan, I might have misled you by using the word, TRAPO. What I’m implying was despite the fact that Cong Lagman championed the RH Bill passage, this isolated/solitary but critical task/accomplishment doesn’t mean and /or equate that he is a changed man worthy to be elected as a Senator of the Republic.

  • Rigoberto_Tigdas

    As I mentioned before, I once cursed Lagman, that time when he was an obvious lapdog of the Arroyos. But at this instance, I’m on his side. For once he did the right thing.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XEOS4BTVFV4OZX5UNCFOWQUB4Y Barbara

      He is still a lapdog. This time, for foreign pharmaceutical companies. RH bill is not about controlling our population. It is about money.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Not at all.  Lagman is not getting younger.  He withdrew from GMA’s group.  He wants to make the difference this time by leaving a legacy that the poor could benefit at least this RH Bill.

      • glenn padilla

        right. just tell that to the street children.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        If you’re going to bring corruption into the argument, may I ask if you also organize against SM? Because if you don’t, I suggest you take your hypocrite ways out of the discussion.

  • $37644997

    He is an old man but young at heart.Lagman elated,the CBCP and cohorts deleted.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eduardo.sunio.7 Nephalus Menio

    I really hope this becomes law.

    There are already too many poor families with more mouths than they can feed. Having children should be a choice not an accident.

    Meanwhile I also want this because the church has way too much power over the people. A shadow theocracy if you will. And this holds the country back.
    Has anyone else noticed that only Pinoys use the expression “God fearing” ? God loves you, the church wants you to fear and obey.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    I’m no fan of this Lagman.  In fact, I dislike him.  He was once a GMA dog.  But his advocacy of RH Bill amidst all odds; his determination and conviction despite threat from the Catholic Church deserve my congratulation.

  • rmichael2

    Let these Congressmen, who voted for the passage of this bill, be in the list of your candidates to vote. They defy the odds, the threats of the church. It only means they’re concerned with the welfare of their constituents, our people…

    Those who voted against the bill with no sensible arguments why they did, are those who expect support from the church in the next elections. They’re willing to sacrifice the poor to get the church’s nod and support.

    Masyado ng maraming kawawa at aping Pilipino sa ibang bansa, kahit pa nasa sarili nating bayan. Panahon ng turuan ang mga Pilipino ng responsibilidad para makaahon sa kahirapan.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JGK6CG3WJ2JJSPULJB3RZO73S4 Ferzius Fhorn

      Agree!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      False and empty joys.  Pharaoh  of Egyt wanted to enslave the Israelites.  He only allowed them to go after their firsborn died. Perhaps the pharaohs of this country will only  change their stand to favor the true freedom of the filipino people from the corruption and abuses of politicians once the rh bill is passed and would have killed not only the first born but also their mothers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    The onus are on them now,to show tangible results !!!!

  • ben311

    may nakita ka bang Pare nagugutom doon sa campostela valley ? ….WALAAAH

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4JMYFQOSPLXK6KLS75EEL5KMGE JANE GREPEARL

    Did everyone who watched the voting on ABS channel catch the reasons our leaders voted no?  Some reasons were from conviction while others like Legislator Revilla who stated, she took birth control and got pregnant 7 times, was just pure stupidity.  You can really see how smart some of these elected officials are NOT.  Lets all get together and weed out these idiot politicians in the next election.  We CAN do it. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Filipinize? Because their parents are against the RH Bill? Because they will go to Heaven?

      Truly the mark of a Filipino senator… and it was televised… zzzz… 

    • tra6Gpeche

      Did she really say that? How could she be that naive and silly. She took birth control and got pregnant seven times? Or maybe, she is just full of lies! What sickens me is that she is a Filipino Congresswoman!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      One of the provisions of the RH bill is educating the likes of Mrs. Revilla on the proper and effective use of contraceptives. Without this law, many more might follow on the footsteps of Mrs. Revilla.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Lol… Forgot to read the instructions?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

        …and probably took the pill down there..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/65LJEGPLFMFOHTS27O2DY24UMM Eph D.

         And people like her who admit to such stupidity should not be representing her constituents in Congress. Vote her out, people!

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Someone has to represent that margin of society we fail to understand, diba?

    • filipinaskoh

      Probably she is too in haste, that she didn’t read the instruction properly.
      It is always written : Read the instruction carefully!

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        baka nakalagay sa gamot, ‘oral’, nagmamadali kasi tuloy ‘rectal’ ang application, hence, nabuntis.

        o baka naman inininum ang dapat vaginally inserted.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      OO nga, as in nakaka hiya nung naririning ko yung reasons ng iba.

      I cringed to the point my skin had goosebumps. Kinilabutan si Kilabot ng mga Balahibo.

      P&#* I&*

  • ben311

    magaling kuno magturo sa buhay buhay…pero ang mga tao ang nagpapakain  sa kanila dahil sa mga abuloy…busit !

    • Shadows1

      Bakit ung sektang kinabibilangan mo, nde rin ba nanghihingi ng abuloy sa inyo?

      • Ivideo

        Ibig sabihin; lahat ng relihiyon ay negosyo.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    By all means, it’s not only the anti-RH that lost but the RC church. It’s obsolete mentality coupled with hypocrisy contributed much to its defeat. Most people nowadays are enlightened and can discern truth from lies.

    As per the late Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini.. the church has remained 200 years behind the times. I guess, it’s high time to go back to the drawing board or better yet just fade away!

  • virgoyap

    Being the only Catholic nation without RH law now the Philippines now can move one step forward about a more responsible family and life.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMGHSM27H4Y3KLQ4SBAB4XZFV4 Peter

    Ok go on pass this bill and let us see the outcome after 50 years. we will be judge by the forth generation on our decision.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/65LJEGPLFMFOHTS27O2DY24UMM Eph D.

       We should make and pass laws that are appropriate for our development NOW. Let the “forth” (?) generation – a hundred years from now, in 2112? – address their own problems.

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    It better if the heading is like this:

    “Lagman ‘eja culated’ over the passage of RH bill”

    he he he

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      Hmm.. have you forgotten that your bishops told you not to terminate life? So preserve your sperms!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        He’s another hypocrite. Marami naman sa kanila hypocrite. Sumasabay lang sa isip ng ibang tao kaya andami din nilang mali na sinasabi.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUE7BZXUJ7I5AFIBEPSIBONAHA Alfred A

    Hurray Edcel Lagman the champion of RH Bill.. the No.1 supporter of PGMA when she was in power…Now the No. 1 balimbing….

    • bugoybanggers

      Wala kang maaasahan sa mga Politiko, lahat ng mga iyan ay sadyang NORMAL na BALIMBING.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/65LJEGPLFMFOHTS27O2DY24UMM Eph D.

       Edce; Lagman is not balimbing. He has been a champion of the RH bill, despite the fact that GMA was kowtowing to the bishops by focusing only on Natural Family Planning. He continues to champion the RH bill. That shows him to be man of principle. He does not waver in his stand. Thank Yaweh for a politician like him.

  • jinx

    Thank you Lagman for not wavering despite GMA’s one-time dramatic entrance in Congress showing opposition to the RH bill, thereby swaying the votes of the other two co-authors—Remulla and Syjuco!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    I am telling you people…ginawa na ito nung panahon ni Marcos…tinuro na rin sa school..hindi naman bumaba ang population rate ng Pilipinas. Sige nga mag conduct nga kayo ng Family Planning program sa mga slums at rural areas tignan ko lang kung gagawin nila yung mga tinuturo nyo. Nung panahon ni Marcos maraming naturuan na mga magulang pero yung next generation hindi na yan ginagawa kasi puros kahalayan na ang nasa isip. Hindi ako mag babayad ng tax para lang pambili ng condom ng mga manyakis

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Tinuro sa school, hinde ginawang batas.

    • Make_Progress

       Anong gusto mo? Magbayad ng tax para pambili ng gobyerno ng condom ng mga manyakis o magbayad ng tax para pambili ng gobyerno ng mga eskwelahan, libro, upuan, gamot, atbp ng mga anak ng mga manyakis?

  • chiefsiop

    demographics problem vs. hungry stomach ..who wins?

    • andrew lim

      false dichotomy – these are not the only choices; you know that. you are setting up false choices. it is not a choice between these two only. see my explanation above

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2XCG4JZYCHLP2AG5QXSBPZCIBI jose miguel

        anti rh-bill vs hungry stomach

        false dichotomy as well right? of course you’ll say otherwise hahaha!

  • andrew lim

     THE FALSE DICHOTOMY OF THE ANTI-RH

    A frequent argument or tactic of the anti-RH which was evident in the explanations to their votes is the false dichotomy. It involves presenting only two options, as if these are the only two, and that it is imperative to choose one over the other .

    Many congressmen like Mitos “fake” Magsaysay framed it in this manner, and so did countless others in variations of these arguments: Is the RH bill the solution to poverty? Food or condoms? Jobs or condoms? Is this what our people really need?

    This has been answered exhaustively in other fora- it is not an either-or; it is just one of the tools the state can use to achieve its social justice objectives; and those are not the only options to choose from and they are not mutually exclusive i.e. choosing one does not preclude the other.

    To show you how dumb this argument is, you can apply it to Mitos Magsaysay, who is running for Senator. Will electing her to the Senate lift us from poverty? Is she really what our people need? Siya ba ang sagot sa kahirapan? Trabaho ang kailangan, hindi si Mitos!

    See how dumb the false dichotomy issue is, not to mention the example?

  • AJ Giorgio

    I’m pro RH. It’s not because I’m anti church or pro-politics or whatever. IMO, modern times need modern laws. Sabi nga, “Necessity is the mother of invention.”

    Ano bang problem ng mga pari? Kung tutuusin, hindi nga sila apektado nito.. kasi hindi naman sila nag-aasawa at nag-aanak.. joke lang. peace!

  • filipinaskoh

    “Rep Thelma Almario votes no, says she wants to see more Filipinos overseas in her lifetime so we can Filipinize the world.”

    What an IDIOT reasoning- Filipinize the world by how?
    Sending Domestic helpers around the world? or worse than that sending them to be prostitute and making young girls married old man for the sake of alleviating their poor family where in they have too many siblings that their parents can no longer fed. Worst : sending them abroad as DRUG COURIER -then what? executed in foreign land.

    How many Filipinos are in the death row, most of then didn’t have due process.
    What kind of Congresswoman is this too TOO IDIOT.

    • Jaelsimone

      Your comment sheer idiocy for what you say, I’m Italian and I live in the Philippines happily married with a Filipina girl, with 4 children. In Milan there are 500,000 Filipinos who work honestly, drivers, store clerks, porters grand palaces, and there are also those who work as domestic as you call them and are respected by their families for the work they do. And of all the foreigners who come from other countries, Filipinos are loved for compliance with the laws that are there in Italy, and none of these women, or men have
      become prestitute, no one sells drugs. The prostitutes there are in abundance in Manila, and foreigners are just for that, there ‘need to go to Europe to get arrested in danger of being expelled. If we are honest foreigners who are married to a Filipina with great pleasure that this happens. I am 57 years old, my wife 37 and then where ‘the problem? And here I also built a house.
      The Philippines is in Italy have a good salary here in your country a salary of a maid and 3000 pesos per month are at the exploitation of persons, in Italy by taking 900/1000 € per month leave to you to make the change,with their savings they bought the house in the Philippines.
      That the lady says she wants to see all the Filipinos all ‘Estero here I agree with you.
      Before you speak inform. Bay

       

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        I guess you’re generalizing my friend. Take note that Filipinos living somewhere else abroad, especially in the Middle East, do not have the same quality of lives as those living in Italy.

        Also, the main objective of policy makers should be to create the right conditions so that the citizens can work and live in their own country.  

      • filipinaskoh

        I would like to remind you- a DICTIONARY once defined Filipina as Domestic helper- Because according to them, that is how it is being viewed world wide.

      • Jaelsimone

         The meaning in Italy and the following:
        COLF = Collaborator Family
        Do not come to teach me, you are not able to understand

        COL =  COLLABORATOR
        F =  FAMILY

    • jinx

      Tumpak!!! Kulang pa kay Rep. Thelma Almario ang bilang ng mga biktima ng pang-aabuso sa ibang bansa, pati mga uuwing bangkay na? Anong klaseng Congresswoman ito? Kakatawa na nakakainis…. mga ganitong palakad ang nagpapababa ng dignidad ng Pinoy sa ibang bansa. Dahil kahit sa Haiti, Gaza, Syria, Sudan,Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, mga bansang danger zones, pinapatulan pa rin ng Pilipino upang maninilbihan bilang katulong o yaya.

  • filipinaskoh

    “Leyte Rep Lucy Torres Gomez votes NO to Rh bill. ‘respect life. Life is a gift”

    Another STUPID REASONING!

    Respect life- How many in our country are committing abortion because they became pregnant by accident? How many children loiter in the streets because their parents can no longer feed them well- napakarami ng mga namamalimos ngayon, nagtitinda ng sampaguita, sigarilyo- worst ang daming naglipanang mga rugby boys/girls, snatcher.

    You may have respect life but you should HAVE THINK BROADER- how about these people I have mentioned- how do you think they respect life? when they cannot afford to live right and well.

    • leobsky

      @filipinaskoh. Para namang sinasabi mo na habang buhay na silang namamalimos. If you kill them during pregnancy then wala na talagang mamalimos sa kalye kasi pinatay mo na sila. Kaya nga — right to life (rich or poor) may karapatan ang lahat ng tao na mabuhay. Sa mga mayayaman ba walang namamalimos? –hindi lang sila nasa kalye pero meron. Wala bang magnanakaw na mayayaman? — hindi lang sila umaakyat ng ibang bahay at holdap, pero meron. Wala bang mayayaman na nagdodroga? o rugby? –hindi lang rugby at hindi sa kalye pero meron. Whay are you singling out the poor in the streets? Can you tell your own children na nabuhay sila sa mundo by chance not by choice? Wake up man!!

      • Facilitator1

        Mr. Leobsky: Parang ABORTION ang TOPIC mo (based sa comment mo na:”kill them during pregnancy…”). Majority ng mga PINOYs (Catholics or not) are against abortion. If the RH Bill is about ABORTION then RH Bill should or rather, MUST not be passed as a law. 

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but one of the contentious issues of RH Bill is the use of contraceptives. Contraceptives are used to prevent the union of the sperm (male) to the egg (woman). So in a nutshell, there’s no FERTILIZATION = no pregnancy. Ergo, if there’s no fertilization–there’s nothing to kill. Yan ang quick definition ng siyensya or SCIENCE. But according to CBCP, contraceptive usage is already an ABORTION.

        Now my question to you, who has more knowledge or the SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT or the AUTHORITY when it comes to the field of MEDICAL SCIENCE. Is it the CBCP or the Natural/Physical Sciences trained personnel?

        FYI: Ito ang tinanong ko sa dabarkads ko: Kung masakit ang ulo mo magpapatingin ka ba sa DOKTOR o sa PARI? Palagay ko kabayan, alam ko ang sagot mo…PEACE

      • filipinaskoh

        Palagay ko ang isasagot sa iyo sa PARI!
        Malay mo ung Pari pala ang dahilan kaya sumasakit ang ulo

      • Facilitator1

        hahaha…

      • filipinaskoh

        Did I mentioned abort THOSE UNWANTED PREGNANCIES?
        What I stated is that her reason is  “respect life. Life is a gift” 
        As if manganak ka ng manganak , then let them die of hunger 

        Life is always a gift- YES OF COURSE – SINONG BANG NAGSABING” PATAYIN AND BAWAT IPINAGBUBUNTIS.

  • Albert Einstien

    EVIL WINS…..but 104 votes can impeach the devil !

    • IsipPinoy

       You prayed very hard for RH bill not to pass and your god didn’t listen to you and even if he did he was powerless. However, the real God with all His powers made sure that the bill passes and it dd. The GOOD wins, EVIL loses.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Perhaps he prayed, but the answer is ‘No.’

        Perhaps the answer is ‘Not at this time.’

        I would never think God will never listen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKWKD2SIVBNXCVAXXFUN37OCY4 bsf

     Though the results of this voting is not what
    we wanted, let us not lose hope lifemates. We will continue to fight the
    good fight for LIFE! We will continue to stand up for what we believe
    in! No one can force upon us a LAW that we believe to be wrong. WE ONLY
    OBEY GOD’S LAW! By the way, there’s still voting on the RH
    BILL in the SENATE next week and 3rd reading in Congress. So this is not
    over! God BLESS the Philippines! Mama Mary, interced for us! YES to LIFE, NO to RH BILL!!! Not NOW, Not EVER!

    • IsipPinoy

       God has spoken and He voted “Yes” on the RH bill. No one could have stopped Him, not even the late Virgin Mary nor any of the dead saints.

  • antonioluna

    parang absent si @boypalaban:disqus  ah… hahaha baka naglalasing na sa pagkatalo ng anti-RH.

    • virgoyap

      He he he he boybalaban is present. Read his only comment on U.S. Baby Born On 12-12-12.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

    The lesson here is simple,
    this story in the news.
    About two groups of people
    each with opposing views.

    One was PRO-RH
    the other is against
    And only a few,
    still sitting on the fence

    Both prayed for guidance,
    a miracle, or intervention.
    But only one got their wish
    the other, got rejection

    So when the Bill passed
    on second reading
    Many cried “at last!”,
    but it got me thinking…

    Of the one hundred thirteen
    who voted to approve
    there was one more, unseen
    that they did not include

    Because if “all things that happen,
    are by His Will”,
    then God also voted
    YES to  RH Bill.
     

    • joshua kings

      you got it all wrong….

  • nti_boohaya

    RH Bill or not, pinoys will keep doing what they do under the rain and under the influence of alcohol or whatever.  Mainam na kung pangaralan ang mga taongbayan at mabigyan sila ng ibang options.  Eka nga e educate the people, give them options and have them choose freely (except abortion dahil against ako sa abortion.)  Tutuo nga po na ginawa na ni Marcos eto pero dahil sa kawalaan ng pondo natigil.  Kung nasaibatas yan at napondohan, e di at least tuloy ang programa sa susunod na henerasyon.  On those premises that I am for the bill.  
     
    I am a practicing catholic.  However, I don’t buy the argument of some of the anti-billers to go only natural.  E paano ko paniniwalaan ang mga yun kung puro retoke naman sila- nose bridge enlargement, breast enlargement, facelift, etc. Peace to all! 

    • UrHONOR

      GO on NAUTRAL when they themselves are so UNNATURAL….garbed in women’s clothing, using helmets that are ridiculous and absurd, abstaining sexual functions that are as natural  as life and resorting to actions that are unnatural, makes VOWs that they do not observe, and many more. PURE and UNADULTERATED SANCTIMONY….clearly the death knell of an ancient and Jurassic practice.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      are u a practicing catholic?

      dre, think before u click (tbuc)….

  • $23257130

    mabuhay si congressman lagman. ang tunay na pag asa ng bayan!

  • virgoyap

    RH bill is vital for nation building. Thanks Rep. Lagman for ensuring that this bill will be passed. Thanks for the courage you have shown amidst threat and intimidation by those religious who are in power. Mabuhay ka!!!

    • boldyak

      RH bill ay parang anay na sisira sa mga haligi ng bahay…mark my word…social problems will be more, hindi mo mahalata pero makikita mo sa maging pagkatao ng karamihan..

      • virgoyap

         All Catholic countries except the Vatican are having RH law and nothing happened to their country instead they became more progressive, for example Italy, France or Spain, just to mention a few. Ang sinsabi mo ay what they call a “myth” or an “urban legend”.

  • joshua kings

    a sad day for the nation….
    it is just now a matter of time to perdition……

    • mfdo

       ask any doctor is the RH bill is right or wrong .. than listen to the church .. which loves more orphans and single mothers as they can be showcased ..

  • tukmoldinako

    o congrats sa mga PRO RH, at bida sa inyo si Lagman, eh utak kumunista yan, kala ko ba ayaw nyo ng TSina, eh yung bill nyo eh parang komunista, okay lang pumatay,  kunwari pro poor, para daw kumonti ang nagtitinda ng sampaguita sa kalsada at namamalimos, mga rugby boys. Asus puro pangarap, pangako ng gubyerno.

    Hindi pa po tapos, lower house palang yan, pero lamang na panalo nyo, sorry nalang kami, lol 

    • Make_Progress

       Tukmol, where in the RH bill do you find that it is OK to kill?

      • tukmoldinako

        okay ka talaga make progress, parang kinder hindi marunong umintindi ng mga nakasulat, kaya nga tumututol ang church , ano yung abortion, unwanted pregnancies, walang ng harang para ipalaglaglag, kaya nga sabi nila life is now a choice. choice of the mother if he wants her son to live or not. PRO ka nga.

        lumalabas na ang bill ay di maliwanag sa tao, mga mambabatas lang ang nakakabasa ngayon ng mga ammendments and it should be the people has the right to know what it was before approval whatso ever.

        that is communism, in china due to their population now is in billions, couples are allowed only with one child, they had no choice.  ours will be a moderate one , the mother has a chance to choose, abort or not.

        okay i will use your name as a topic of discussion, “progress”.  The inability of the government to make progress in the country and poverty instead was florishing that’s why he resort to RH Bill as the solution. It is not, our incapacity to use our natural resources dahil bobo pa tayo , yan ang dahilan. Example, there is no slums in Singapore, because governments money goes to the people. whereas in our case, the supposed government money goes to few. maybe you dont understand, like why so many chinese entities operating and owns big factories in our country, natural resources are hauled everyday in bulk on ship going to china. it was found out they are paying only minimal tax, well, it is because our government officials allow them, with some bribe okay na, although the people in the area are complaining due to damage it brought but who listen to them basta may buhay buhay si gob, tahimik din si DENR.  but the larger part of the money was lost, the people cannot do anything because it is the dictate of the government, therefore we will remain poor as we are and only the moneyed and in position will get more, kaya yung RH Bill ang kunwaring sagot ng gobyerno sa kahirapan , gets mo. kung gusto mo pa marami pa akong ikukuwento sa yo, lol 

      • mfdo

         tukmoldinako: I think the bigger problem is men can get any woman pregnant and walk away .. and the forgiving culture says it is ok .. but then the woman, unemployed, and mostly poor, end up delivering children in the slums and of course, the church will take care of it, but making the child beg for alms ..

        those who opposite RH must step up and quickly pass a law to ensure children – of man who disappeared, will be ward of the state and will receive education, food and clothing, till they can start earning .. you think that will happen ?? no .. they will find a way to make corruption even if such a law comes in ..

        for a start, what anti-RH ? are the bishops forgetting the truth that condoms and contraceptives are not available in Philppines ? they just don’t want to loose their hold on power and all things material ..

        Isn’t the state supposed to be seperate from Religion ?

        Why isn’t the staunchy Muslims not objecting ? even their religion forbids abortion, but .. times have changed- the days of the mosque taking care of orphans are over – it is better for the woman of unwanted pregnancy to have a choice of aborting, whether she got pregnant by rape or by intoxicated or plainly believed the church’s ‘natural method’

      • tukmoldinako

        I agree to your first sentence, and men are getting irresponsible these days , forgiving culture is true and will simply accept it as fate.

        A law should be pass to go after irresponsible father, for the woman to have a right to claim for monthly sustenance, alam ko magulong processo na naman ito, kapag justice ang pinag usapan karagdagan gastos pa yan. under the mayor’s office na lang sana yung claim, para magkaroon ng takot ang mga lalake diba.

        the bishop are nothing but a voice, the state can pass any bill anything they want , just maybe their voice will be heard and banking on the idea that catholics are dominant while muslim  surely will not utter a word for they are more on courting the government for the issues on their land.

        Generally, i agree to your ideas, thanks  

      • Make_Progress

        You are the one who is thinking like a preschool kid. You were not able to answer my question with the lengthy reply that you wrote. I am just asking where in the RH bill you find that it is OK to kill. Cite the provision. This is what you wrote: “o congrats sa mga PRO RH, at bida sa inyo si Lagman, eh utak kumunista yan, kala ko ba ayaw nyo ng TSina, eh yung bill
        nyo eh parang komunista, okay lang pumatay…”
        With the lengthy reply that you wrote, you are just justifying your level of intelligence as being a preschool kid. See this. You said: “The inability of the government to make progress in the country and poverty instead was florishing that’s why he resort to RH Bill as the solution.”
        Do you know what is wrong with your declaration? It is not only the spelling, sentence construction and subject-verb agreement. You used the word “the”. “The” is a definite article. You are trying to say that RH bill is the only solution this government is thinking to solve poverty. That is not true. RH bill is just one of the many solutions this government is thinking to solve
        poverty in the Philippines.

        Meron ka ba ngayong natutunan sa sinasabi mong kinder?

      • tukmoldinako

        wala akong natutunan, alam kona yun, nuon paman bagsak ako sa inglis, pero naintindihan mo yung sentence construction ko, he he he do you think that is all that important? Pilipinoes are so intelligent but our intelligence had resulted to waste. RH Bill will just be another bill which will be useless and and a waste of money, implementation will be another thing.                                                                                                                            

  • IsipPinoy

    Fear of irrelevance of religion in people’s lives is I think what drives these bishops in opposing the RH bill vehemently.

    • boldyak

      hindi mo pa rin pala alam ang totoong dahilan  ng mga bishops kung bakit ayaw nila ng RH bill…alamin mo muna dahil what you thinks is wrong…

      • IsipPinoy

        Ikaw alam mo ba? At kung tatatungin mo sila they will give you their standard response about life and blah, blah, blah.

  • ApoNiLolo

    To all pro RH proponents: If I were you, I’ll reserve my enthusiasm until PNoy signed the bill. A lot can happen, especially if certain “quarters” let loose its mechanism to creep its way along the corridors of congress. The best you could do, for the time being, is – be vigilant! : )

    Baka matulad kay Pacman ang bill na yan. Sa sobrang kompyansa, nakatulog sa canvas. >: D

  • kilabot

    rhbill is just the beginning. 
    the world agenda is to make the abnormal the new normal; 
    1) drugs; 
    2) same-sex marriage; 
    3) man-beast union; 
    4) prostitution; 
    5) pedophilia; 
    6) abortion; 

    the agenda is being pushed around the world; 
    some countries have already legalized one or more of the agenda items; 
    the push is intensifying; targeting world leaders and people of influence; 
    obama, clinton and carter have fallen; the whole usa may fall soon; 

    everything will be redefined; 
    $sodomy becomes love; bestialisex is affection; 
    a junkie is chic; a prostitute is enterprising; 
    adopting the agenda is equated to progress, prosperity and advancement; 

    the idea is to make the world one big orgy; all people thinking, behaving and acting alike; 
    one world order; 
    there will be no more right nor wrong; there is only normal perversion; 

    time to choose which side you are on; fence-sitting not recommended. 

    No to perversion! 
    No to rhbill.

    • Make_Progress

      Kung anu-ano ang naiisip mo tungkol sa RH bill! A good
      man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an
      evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For
      the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

      • txtman

        SAD TO SAY

        KILABOT IS RIGHT
        .
        .

        SAD TO SAY PENOY

        MISSED HIS OPPORTUNITY

        TO UNITE THE COUNTRY
        .
        .

        THE TIME OF

        REAWAKENING HAS BEGUN
        .
        .

        MAGSAYA NA KAYO

        MGA PRO-RH FOR NOW
        .
        .
        .
        BECAUSE LATTER ON

        TEARS, ANGUISH, SADNESS &

        CHAOS IN THE FAMILY & SOCIETY

        WILL REPLACED YOUR LAUGHTERS
        .
        .
        BUT THEN

        THESE THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN
        .
        .

        MENE TEKEL PERES

        PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN AND CARNIVAL TAGLE EXTREIMIST TERRORIST”’

    • julymorning

       EDGARDO MENDOZA AND LAGMAN, MGA MONGOLOID NA BADING!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIVAL TAGLE SAY YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

    • boldyak

      yes to support maniacss by giving free condoms. mga manyakis na iresponsable na kahit condom di makabili para makapagparaos ng kamanyakan…..bwwahahahaha

      • mfdo

        it is ok to promote breeding like rabbits, but not ok to ensure the women left by the men don’t get proper care .. well, no wonder it is fun in the philippines – you can make any woman pregnant and walk away, with not a worry in life .. after all, the church will take care right ?? if you are anti-rh, then do this – bring a law to ensure all women who got pregnant by men, married or not, must support the child till adulthood – deal ??

        those, in my eyes, who get women pregnant and leave them be should rot int he worst hell, not those who are trying to give a way to the senators who are doing something right for once ..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Bro bro bro, join na tyo dito bro! Lipat bahay na tayo…psst meron dito libreng PILLS at CONDOM! UNLIMITED SUPPLY! FOR LIFE na toh men!
        Pres CONDOM maraming maraming salamat sa legacy mo! May you have a statue with PILLS and CONDOM beside you! Dapat di ka makalimutan ng mga Pilipino!
        Mabuhay si Pres CONDOM! Mabuhay!
        Sigaw natin? CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

  • Karatikit

    Masaya na si Lagman at mga kakampi nila sa RH dahil tatanggap na sila ng limpak-limpak na salapi mula sa presidente at mga nagsusulong na RH – mga manufacturers ng anti-conceptives.  Dapat siguro tignan ang kanilang mga bankong biglang taas ang kanilang deposits…

  • Garote

    Of course this anti-christ lawmaker, Lagman, must have received a big amount of x’mas cash gift from the pharmaceutical companies. 

  • Garote

    Lagman you just can’t be too sure. What if you and most of the pro RH bill laswmakers will drop dead tomorrow?

  • disqusted0fu

    Lagman is elated, as in filled with evil spirits!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    R.I.P. DAMASO

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      sa wakas sa wakas..matutuloy na un RH BILL!
      Miriam said Pinoy is a HERO because of the RH BILL! Yes mabuhay Pres PINOY. Mabuhay Pres CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!Lapit lapit kayo meron na libreng PILLS at CONDOM para di tayo dumami.Safe sex, wala ng AIDS, walang mabuntis dahil kay Pres CONDOM! May CONDOM na tyo!
      Pinagpala ka mahal na Pres. CONDOM!Sigaw ng BAYAN! CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM! Batiin natin cya! CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM. Pinagmalaki natin cya, his legacy to us FILIPINOS. Mabuhay si Pres CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!Yes yes yo RH BILL na tayo!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    KASI NAMAN KAYO MGA PILIPINO SINABI NA SA INYO NI BISHOPS IPUTOK NINYO SA LOOB WAG NINYO GAMITAN NG GOMA BAWAL YUN SA KAUTUSAN NG SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO”’ DAG DAGAN PADAW NINYO ANG MGA BLESING NINYO SA KARSADA MGA NAKA HUBO PA PABILHAN NINYO NAMAN NG DAMIT KAY CARNIVAL TAGLE MAY NA22LOG PA SA TULAY”’

    • julymorning

       ABNOY TALGA UTAK MO!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Peace na peace ng tyo bro!
        Join na tyo dito bro! Lipat bahay na tayo…psst meron dito libreng PILLS at CONDOM! UNLIMITED SUPPLY for life! WOW na WOW!
        Pres CONDOM maraming maraming salamat sa legacy mo! May you have a statue with PILLS and CONDOM beside you! Dapat di ka makalimutan ng mga Pilipino!
        Mabuhay si Pres CONDOM! Mabuhay!
        Sigaw natin? CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

    elatd daw si lagmay dahil naguguluhan ang isip ipis niya. magisip ka lagmay malapit ka NA SA IMPERYERNO BICOLANO KA PA MAN DIN’,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Sigaw ng bayan, CONDOM ang kailangan! yes yes yo RH BILL na tahyoh men!
    Congressman CONDOM Mabuhay ka! salamat sa RH BILL Mo! Meron ka kami CONDOM nito! your the CONDOM Father of the FILIPINO PEOPLE!
    Mabuhay ka rin like Pres CONDOM! 
    Kya sabay sabay tayo sumigaw, CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

  • Pau

    To our respectable lawmakers, please vote on the RH Bill with a RIGHT, TRUE and Moral CONSCIENCE grounded on man’s relationship with GOD.

    Jeanne Paulin Atienza
    1SCL
    University of Santo Tomas

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