Bishops gird for RH bill battle

Church calls for prayer power; Tagle leads vigil

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Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle. AP FILE PHOTO

Storming the heavens with prayers, Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle on Tuesday urged the Catholic faithful to attend an overnight vigil in Makati City for the defeat of the reproductive health (RH) bill.

Tagle called on the faithful to gather at the National Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Makati City starting at 6 p.m. Tuesday as Congress convenes Wednesday to vote on the RH bill, which seeks to provide people with information on reproductive health matters and access to contraceptives.

“The overnight vigil continues (Wednesday), with Masses at 6 a.m., 8 a.m, 12 noon, 5 p.m., 6:30 p.m. and 8 p.m. Cardinal Tagle will celebrate the Mass at the Shrine at 12 noon,” said a statement from the Archdiocese of Manila.

In a letter to lawmakers, Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP), also invoked Our Lady of Guadalupe, patroness of the Catholic prolife movement.

“As you resume your deliberations on the reproductive health bill, I pray that through the gracious intercession of Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose feast day we celebrate today, you may be bountifully guided by the Holy Spirit,” Palma said.

“Recalling Our Lady’s words when she first spoke to the Indian peasant St. Juan Diego on that cold December day on Tepeyac hill in Mexico 481 years ago, I am confident she will grant us the fruit of her affection and protection if we ask for it. In these difficult and trying days, we humbly ask for it,” he added.

LP meeting

The bill on Tuesday inched closer to getting passed on second reading following separate meetings by President Aquino’s Liberal Party (LP) and coalition partner, Nationalist People’s Coalition (NPC), on the eve of the crucial vote in the House of Representatives.

That was the reading of Tarlac Rep. Kimi Cojuangco of the NPC and Rep. Teddy Baguilat Jr. of the LP, who attended the meetings separately at the Batasang Pambansa and the LP’s Balay headquarters in Quezon City before the afternoon session.

Spearheading the meeting at the LP headquarters were Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas and Speaker Feliciano Belmonte.

“Because we are supportive of the President, a ‘yes’ vote is a vote for the President,” Cojuangco told reporters. “A lot toed the line.”

‘Insurance’

Baguilat said the meeting at Balay was meant as “insurance” that the RH bill would be passed on second reading.

He said the meeting’s primary audience was the “swayable” group of LP members who had not yet committed to voting either for or against House Bill No. 4244.

Baguilat was confident that the RH bill would be passed, with the combined support of LP and NPC members. There are around 90 LP members and 50 lawmakers belonging to the NPC.

Cojuangco said the decision to support the RH bill was a leadership stand.

In a statement, the LP said it asked its members to vote and support the bill.

The LP leadership also impressed upon the members the importance of the bill to millions of Filipinos, especially its implication on the health and safety of mothers and women. It also reminded members of the President’s position on the issue.

Vidal in House gallery

On the eve of the congressional vote, Cebu Archbishop Emeritus Ricardo Cardinal Vidal said he and other Catholic Church leaders were leaving the matter to God.

“Ours is the power of prayer. The power of the Lord will always be there because we always depend on God’s will,” he told reporters on the sidelines of the period of amendments in the House.

Vidal, who watched the proceedings with at least seven other bishops in the gallery, was responding to a question which pointed out that House Bill No. 4244 enjoyed the support of Mr. Aquino.

During the thanksgiving Mass for the canonization of St. Pedro Calungsod in Cebu, Vidal recalled telling the President when the subject of the RH bill came up: “You decide what is right. Only that. What is right.”

Antipolo Bishop Gabriel Reyes said the fate of the bill would not be known until the actual vote was taken, and he and other opponents were firm in their faith that the measure would be defeated in the House.

Supreme Court option

But just in case the bill managed to pass, Reyes said other opponents of the measure were prepared to go to the Supreme Court to challenge its constitutionality because the State should equally protect the right to life of the mother and the baby.

Many of the supposedly “killer” amendments introduced by critics of the bill have been defeated constantly either in voice vote or nominal voting in the plenary.

But Reyes, who chairs the Episcopal Commission on Family and Life, said the voting on the amendments would not necessarily reflect the final outcome.

“I always expect voting would change, and the RH bill would not be approved,” Reyes told reporters in the House.

Power of prayer

He said prayer could accomplish a lot of things. “More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of,” he said, quoting the English poet Alfred Tennyson.

In his letter to lawmakers, Palma noted that Pope Benedict XVI had said that “it is not the law of the strongest that must prevail.”

“This makes it vital for every society to remove everything that could cast suspicion on the law and its ordinances, because it is only in this way that arbitrary conduct on the part of the State can be eliminated and freedom can be experienced as something genuinely shared by all,” Palma said.

He said people would revolt against the law if it was perceived as no longer the expression of a justice but a product of despotism.

Truth is basis of law

Palma urged lawmakers to dump the RH bill, saying the Philippines needed a law “to unite rather than divide.”

“We need a  law to affirm and protect the truth about the dignity of the human person, who has been created in the very image of God; the sanctity of the family, the basic social unit which even our Constitution recognizes as the foundation of the nation; and the inviolability of the social institution of marriage, which the Constitution likewise recognizes as the foundation of the family,” Palma said.

He urged lawmakers to respect the “right to life, the right of married couples to found a family according to their religious beliefs and moral convictions, and to be the primary educators of their children.”

Palma said “the truth must be the basis of the law, rather than the result of legislation.”

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  • edm365f31

    These bishops and priest are all clueless; waste of time!!

    • muy_burritto

      O, please do illumine us how you think the RH bill will solve poverty and is the best strategy to solve world hunger, Mr. Clue!

      • w33k3nd3r

        You’ve a better idea?

      • muy_burritto

        Not yet, he hasn’t given me a clue.

  • willbillywilly

    The Philippine needs the RH bill. Stop meddling in Govt. affairs you bishops know nothing about. During the reign of Gloria, when the citizenry needed your support, you were nowhere after receiving material doleouts from her. We dont need your kind of judases

    • muy_burritto

      During the reign of Gloria, where were you? And during the reign of ERAP, of Cory, of Marcos?  How about the time of Simeon?  

      I haven’t heard of will billy willy, By your logic, you too should stop meddling in gov’t affairs.

  • bundee

    The dignity of Filipinos come from the blending of human values + Filipino culture.  We cannot be authentic Filipinos if our values are foreign. It becomes a borrowed foreign culture plus interest.

  • riccisan

    Palma said “the truth must be the basis of the law, rather than the result of legislation.”-Yup, the truth is we are becoming overpopulated and we need to educate people to exercise restraint, through normal and artificial methods. It is also true that you wont contribute to the Phil economy if things go in dire straights. Thats the f****n TRUTH!

    • muy_burritto

        Overpopulated as compared to what?  Hongkong is more dense than metro manila.  Singapore is as big as Subic,but have government services that would our entire nation to shame. 

        Don’t blame the congestion, lack of infrastructure, the lack of discipline, and lack of good governance on the poor.  Who controls these things?  Why aren’t these issues being addressed? 

        Blame it on the few who think that a band aid solution like 8 Billion pesos worth of free condoms and pills will magically solve  the Philippine problem of corruption. and apathy.  

        The truth is Filipinos have remained ineffective in making our public officials accountable for their corruption.  Blame it also on our own choice in leaders. 
         People will either rise and fall the level of your expectations.   The RH bill is a loss loss proposition.  Give the poor the opportunity to contribute, give them jobs and empower them. The poor needs a level playing field to overcome poverty, not a dole out.

      • vendetta07

         the government doesn’t create jobs, the private sector does

      • muy_burritto

        Riddle me this, the BIR, SEC, SSS, DTI, FDA and your local mayor are not needed to start a business in the philippines, true or false?

      • tamumd

        They are just the approving bodies..they don’t create jobs! So the answer is neither.

      • riccisan

        sus, kelan ka ba pinanganak? alam mo naman siguro kung magkano sinasahod sa govt. may work ka nga sa govt di naman sapat sahod. not unless meron kang under d table. now nga lang konti lang bonus daw mga govt employees, tinanggal ni PNoy.

      • vendetta07

        of course you need registration and paperwork. unless we have state-owned enterprises like in China, the Government isn’t an engine of job creation

      • muy_burritto

        On state owned, check mo GOCC. Nasa SONA ang mga yan ni Noynoy.

        On job creation and registration and paperwork. How about when competition can just “buy” these services at a discount and then limit availability by making the normal cost prohibitive? Or how about allowing Oil and Power Cartels to drive businesses to ruin, isn’t that hindering free trade and the opportunities to create jobs? How about controlling the Corporate Tax, Value Added Tax, Individual Tax rates, aren’t these factors that affect a business decision to hire or keep people? Aren’t these government mandated and controlled actions part of the overall job creation engine for the Philippines?

      • vendetta07

        a quick glance at the list of GOCCs shows that many are just government and regulatory agencies such as:

        Light Rail Transit Autority (LTRA)
        Livelihood Corporation (LIVECOR)
        Local Water Utilities Administration (LWUA)

        These aren’t the types of corporations to employ millions of unskilled and semi-skilled pinoys.

        I don’t know what your point is with Oil and Power companies. If you mean that electricity is more expensive in PH compared to other ASEAN countries then you are right. But I don’t think they drive businesses to ruin.

        On your last point, I completely agree. The government can influence the private sector with taxes. But in the end, it is still the private sector who creates the jobs.

      • KapitanBagwis

        Ikaw na kaya ang presidente since alam na alam mo ang solution sa problema ng over population sa pinas.

        Kita mo intsik dahil sa over populated wala ng makain sa kanila kinukuha na pagaari ng ibang bansa ng sapilitan.

        Pakainin mo mga tao ng damo at kamote araw araw.

        Ang daling sabihin bigyan ng trabaho…ang Amerika na mayaman maraming walang trabaho.

      • riccisan

        nice try but still flawed. heres my answer: 
        1.HK Singapore mayaman na bansa ang mga yun.
        2.Yes I do blame congestion. because of congestion-theres lack of infras, and governance of the poor, etc. thats why this is the way to address it. less population=better services.
        3. Blame it on choice of leaders? Well ito na nga nag iisip sila ng paraan di ba?
        We need to start somewhere. Your premise of government corruption is another topic and hence your argument is futile. Tama ang comment ng nauna sa akin. If you’re so smart, ikaw nga maging presidente, baka kahit brgy captain di mo kaya.

      • tamumd

        Overpopulation is not about population density. It is about GDP per capita. It is about available resources. It is about quality of life. It is about land use/exploitation. It is about environmental degradation/pollution. It is about disease prevalence in relation to so many people living in closed quarters.

        Hongkong and Singapore could afford to live in a small piece of real property coz they don’t need vast tracks of land to till as their economies are based on finance and banking and not agriculture and subsistence farming. We do. They build vertically. These city states have more lush parks than our own country. None of their citizens live under bridges or along esteros or squat illegally on someone’s private property.

        This bill is needed so that those (specially the poor) who wants to plan the size of their family using artificial means can have access to them. By doing that the runaway ballooning of our population is tempered. More poor families would be able to provide adequate food to their children so that their brains develop normally and those children grow healthy. Because they won’t have so many children to take care of, they would be able to send them to school and eventually to college or some technical education. That is the only way you can help them break the cycle of poverty. That is the only way they can become empowered and employable.  And that is definitely NOT a dole out.

        You bet RH bill would definitely not solve corruption coz corruption is a totally different animal. RH bill is one long term solution to our teeming population and proliferation of poverty. YOu would not see results of it next year. However in the next 10-20 years we should be expecting some results if we pass this bill now.

      • muy_burritto

        So you are saying that disposable income is the better standard for quality of life? Let me reframe the question then. In mentioning HK and Singapore then, how did these minute specks of islands manage to build a Financial and Trading friendly atmosphere that managed to increase income per capita of its residents, attract foreigners to stay and invest in their countries, when, if stacked against the Philippines, we have the superior numbers, both in natural and manpower resources? Educational capabilities, Infrastructure and Cost of Doing Business (Utilities, Taxes, Corruption)?

        Invest what limited funds we have to reducing the cost of doing business in the Philippines, to training our workforce to be world class at the jobs these business need them to be. Invest what limited resources we have to eliminating inefficiencies so the government can be less dependent on BIR collections and begin REDUCING TAXES.
        If the intent is to drive disposable income up, then drive business income up and keep attracting businesses who invest in the Philippines. Make it MORE sustainable for businesses to pay their employees MORE. We have the 30% corporate tax burden as well as 30% individual tax as well as local government taxes, while cities like Singapore and HK have far more attractive tax offerings. Drive electricity rates down and go after the Power and Oil cartels if we are serious about reducing the cost of our utilities.

        Do that so the employed see their disposable incomes increase, and so will their ability to get education for their families, pursue their own enterprise, and create new jobs. Do that and you will see your increased quality of life.

        Where does the RH Bill play? With the RH Bill you increase the burden on the Government Budget, spending on contraceptives will rise from the current Php2.5B to 8B increasing yearly until it reaches Php13B. Our population growth rate has been contracting for the past 20 years, down from average of 6.5 to 1.9. What to you will be an acceptable number for before you recognize that our infrastructure, educational system and inefficiency and is being overwhelmed by the mismanagement of resources and is the one that needs to catch-up.

      • tamumd

        It’s not just the disposable income. I enumerated several measures on how to assess overpopulation. I said GDP per capita, quality of life, available resources, land use/exploitation, enviromental impact/pollution, disease prevalence.

        Well duh Singapore and Hongkong became what they are because they managed their population very well. When their population were still small they already instituted family planning while investing in their respective economies. In the process their population growth was sustainable. They were then able to provide for the health, jobs and social programs of each of their citizens while they continue to prosper. Because ballooning population was never an issue, the increasing wealth of the city states were reinvested back into more infrascture, constrution and social programs. I don’t think textbook and classroom shortage were even an issue ever.

        On the other hand …..we allowed our runaway population growth to this current level – close to 100 million and an economy that was left 2 decades behind our neighbors..what do you expect. With close to 2million warm bodies that are still born annually…no wonder we could never satisfy the perpetual shortage of books and classrooms. It’s coz it’s like chasing your tail.

        Poverty is a very complex issue that require an equally complex solution. All your proposal are possible solution to this gagantuam a problem. Our government is already working on some of them..including addressing corruption. The RH bill is just one thrust to these myriads of solution.

        The drop in population growth rate is not unique to the Philippines. It’s a worldwide phenomenon that has been going on now for the past 2 decades. Lots of countries had reached the replacement rate already..some even below. But there are still lots of countries way above what’s ideal. Our TFR (total fertility rate) is still the highest in the ASEAN at 3.3 way above the replacement rate of 2.1. We are still among the few countries in our neck of the woods with high poverty rate along Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar. Interestingly the late comer Vietnam is way much better than us in that regard.

        Please read: Population, poverty, politics and RH bill in the July, 2012 issue of the Inquirer. It’s written by Economics professors from UP including the NEDA head Mr. Balisacan.

      • vendetta07

        well said!

      • Guest

         But we can still become prosperous without having to have Bengal population density.

    • blowcoldblowhot

      Countries like Singapore, Japan and many European nations
      with a growing elderly population are not about to blame the lesser evil of
      contraception or of aborting their future citizens, which they strictly adopted
      as a matter of legislative policy a few decades ago. However, Senior Minister
      Lee Kuan Yew seems to beat his breast in regret at a recent post and so are the
      other European nations currently registering more senior high schoolers than
      elementary and kindergarten. China is now being confronted by aged parents with
      only one grown up child to take care of them ever since the one-child policy
      rolled out the barrel, a quarter of a century ago.  
      The Reproductive Health (RH) bill predictably to
      get the majority nod of both houses, of course, its main proponent namely
      Malacañang and its global movers should have never been regarded as a problem
      conflict, a divisive issue between two traditionally non-combatant institutions
      in this country viz., the state and the Catholic Church. Both should have
      inputted it as a dilemma, in the scholastic lingo — a necessary evil.
      As the pro-RH including the economic masters of
      our country are seeing the “necessary” so clearly, similarly, the Church sees
      crystal clearly the “evil” — especially as she goes beyond the provisions and
      amendments but rather prognosticates on a long term culture of death among the
      Filipinos. The vortex therefore of the conflict should have boiled down to the
      common efforts of reducing the “necessary” and the “evil” — a traditional way
      of resolving hard dilemmas.
      However, as it is today, flawed arguments that
      litter the halls of the upper and lower chambers have taken over, subsequently
      giving way to political lobbying and voting where always it is all about
      “having the numbers” where victory becomes either a comfort or a betrayal. 
      Still, God is watching how effective our choices
      would be. The beneficial consequences are our built-in rewards, and the evil
      consequences are our punishment. He does’t even have to move a finger!

      • riccisan

        haba ng reply mo here get straight to the point na anti RH bill ka as per your above posts dito. again simple lang ang role ng RH Bill, educate the people, give them a choice if they want some kind of birth control. yun lang.and pls separate govt matters from Church matters. malinaw nakahiwalay sila as per constitution.

  • batangsulpok

    Dapat ngayon ipakita ng gobyerno na may separation of church and state na kung magpupumilit ang CBCP sa pakikialam, kailangang alisan sila ng TAX EXEMPTION.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      bulsa ng bulsa, hingi ng hingi ng limos pati sasakyan, matricula sa eskuelahan nila ang tataas, tulong ba yan, manga limpak-limpak na ari-arihan na kinamkam mula pa noong panahon ni damaso saan ginagamit ang mga kinikita, hindi naman nagbabayad ng buwis!!! TAX THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • muy_burritto

        Eh saan gagamitin ang pera ng RH Bill na iyan?  Sa kaligayahan ng Pilipina, kasal man o hindi?
        Makakahindi ka ba sa buwis? Eh sa limos?

    • muy_burritto

      Bakit, ano bang mapapala mo pagnapasa ang RH Bill? Sige nga, mababawasan ba ang buwis mo sa tingin mo?

  • filipinaskoh

    “attend an overnight vigil in Makati for the defeat of the reproductive health bill” Cardinal Tagle

    WHY HAVE A VIGIL IN MAKATI?people in Makati don’t need RHbill – because they can afford the most expensive contraceptives and they all have health/medical insurance and they can afford the best medical assistance.

    WHY NOT HAVE VIGIL in areas like PAYATAS, TONDO, OR ANY SLUM AREAS lalo na iyong puro squater living along the water ways, ilalim ng tulay, sa minahan ng basura.Mga tao dito kailangan ang RHbill- let see their reaction lalo’t pag naglabasan sila na karay-karay ang mga gutum, payat, malmourished, at kaawa-awang mga bata pati na ang nanay.

    Palagay ko itong mga bishops na ito ni minsan hindi pa tumapak sa mga lugar na ganito kaya gusto makati-SOSYAL nga naman walang namamantot na basura at naglipanang “ebak”.

    • Tom De Lima

      Our Lady of Guadalupe nga eh.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      yan ang dapat pag-ukulan ng pansin ng simbahan gusto din lang nilang dumami ang tao, tustusan nila lahat ng panga-ngailangan ng mga mahihirap…hindi puro dasal, laway at salita….!!!

  • txtman

    NEXT EARTHQUAKE..

    PITIFUL

  • muy_burritto

    Bakit sila naghihirap? Wala kasi pambili,
    Bakit walang pambili? Wala kasing trabaho.
    Bakit walang trabaho? Di kasi kaya, dahil ang mahal.  
    Ang mahal ng matrikula kahit gustong mag-aral. 
    Ang mahal ang pagkain at gamot kahit gustong maging malusog ang pamilya.

    Gusto magtayo ng negosyo? 

      Ang mahal ng kuryente, ang mahal ng tubig, ang mahal ng buwis! Mahal ang gasolina at pamasahe.  

      Gusto mo ng cedula o papeles? Ilang beses ka pababalikin sa munisipyo. Ang laking aksaya sa oras ng pagpila sa mga opisina ng gobyerno natin.  Bakit sila naging mahal? Bakit sila naging mabagal?  Sa panahon ng internet, bakit usad bagong pa rin ang serbisyo ng gobyerno natin?

      Anong ginagawa sa 30 porsyentong kinakaltas sa iyo at sa akin buwan buwan?   Inaayos ba ng gobyerno natin ang mga isyung ito sa pamamagitan ng RH Bill? 

      Hindi.  Kung ang problema ay walang trabaho kaya naghihirap, ang sagot ay MARANGAL na TRABAHO para sa mahihirap.  Hindi tanga ang mga mahihirap.
      Naalala mo ba ang Hippocratic oath ng doctor? First, “Do no harm”  Di baleng lason ang pills at nakakacancer (44% increased incidence of breast cancer in women who have not given birth), di baleng hindi epektibo bilang pangsangga sa AIDS dahil sa ilusyon ng pagiging “safe”.  Ito lang ang “Health” Bill na inaamin na hindi naiitindihan ng mismong mambabatas ang pagsimula ng pagkabuhay ng tao.  Wala kasing KITA SA PAGPIPIGIL at pagiging RESPONSABLE.

  • filipinaskoh

    “Ours is the power of prayer. The power of the Lord will always be there because we always depend on God’s will,” Cardinal Vidal

    I know God doesn’t have any religion, and he don’t have any favorite religion. 
    Why Catholic always claim That God belongs to them alone.

    What makes the RHbill a sin? when in fact it is not about abortion it will even minimize the occurrence of abortion. I don’t know if what is in the head of the catholic prelates when they kept on insisting RHbill is about abortion. Is that the real reason they have?

    bakit kailangan nyong bitbitin ang pangalan ng Diyos sa bawat pagkontra nyo? Nun kay Corona bitbit nyo ang pangalan ng Diyos, buti na lang ang Diyos hindi Uto-uto.

    • txtman

      WHAT????

      RH BILL IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION??

      ANSWER THIS

      BY LAW, ABORTION IS A CRIME

      THEN HOW COME THE RH BILL

      DID NOT INCLUDE THE CLAUSE

      THAT IN CASES OF ABORTIONS

      THE HOSPITAL NEEDS TO REPORT IT TO THE POLICE

      JUST LIKE

      WHEN

      A RAPE IS SUSPECTED

      OR

      STUB WOUND OR GUN SHOT WOUND COMES TO THE HOSPITAL

      INSTEAD

      THE RH BILL SAID

      THE HOSPITAL SHOULD BE COMPATIONATE TO THEM

      FOR YOUR INFO

      GINAGAWA NA YAN SA MGA HOSPITALS

      TUMAMBAY KA SA OB-GYNE ER SA PGH

      EVERYDAY ANG DAMING ABORTION CASES.

      EH ANO NAMAN ANG GINAGAWA NG BATAS

      SA MGA PINATAY NA MGA BATA?

      WALA!

      IF YOU WANT TO SEE THESE PRODUCTS OF CONCEPTION

      VISIT

      THE UP-COLLEGE OF MEDICINE MUSEUM

      DOON

      ANG DAMING NAKA BOTE NA MGA FETUS

      IN DIFFERENT MONTHS
      .
      .
      .
      PURO KAYO RIGHT NG MGA BABAE

      PAPAANO NAMAN ANG RIGHTS NG MGA

      WALANG MUWANG NA MGA PINATAY?
      .
      .
      AND READ THE RH BILL

      BIBIGYAN NG KAPANGYARIHAN

      ANG MGA ORGANIZATIONS NG MGA TAGA-IBANG BANSA

      DO I NEED TO TELL YOU

      WHO ARE THESE ORGANIZATIONS?

      PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        God has no religion.  It’s men who have religions.  Religion is to reconcile with God not God reconciling with men.  Men need God not God need men.

      • txtman

        WHICH IS FIRST?

        CHICKEN OR THE EGG?

        A CLASSIC ARGUMENT

        OF AN ATHEIST

        PITIFULLY PATHETIC

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

        ikaw na rin ang nagsabi na marami ang abortions sa pgh. kaya kailangan nang maipasa ang RH bill.  dahil kung tama na ang paggamit ng libreng condom, ano pa ang ipa-aabort mo? 

      • txtman

        YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT

        ABORTION IS A CRIME

        KAYA PATULOY NA DUMADAMI ANG ABORTION

        KASI WALANG NAPAPARUSAHAN

        GIVE ME 10 CASES OF ABORTIONS

        NA NAPARUSAHAN NA

        JUST TO THINK

        YOUR CLAIMING

        HUNDREND OF THOUSANDS OF ABORTIONS ARE BEING DONE
             EVERY YEAR

        AND YET

        NOT A SINGLE IOTA

        IS PERSECUTED?

        COMMON SENSE DICTATES

        NOBODY IS IMPLEMENTING THE LAW

        THAT IS THE PROBLEM

        GETS MO?

        PITIFUL

      • KapitanBagwis

        Mabuti bumili ka muna ng maraming common sense para maintindihan mong mabuti issue dito. Kawawa ka naman.

        Pinapatay? Mayroon bang magulang na gustong patayin ang anak nila. Meron siguro yung mga sira ulo at walang common sense. Pathetic.

      • txtman

        SINO NGAYON ANG WALANG SENSE?

        ANO YUN ULIT???

        SINONG MGAULANG ANG GUSTONG PATAYIN ANG
             KANILANG MGA ANAK????

        EH, KUNG TAMA KA

        BAKIT SA RH BILL

        SINASABI NA DAPAT

        MAGING MABAIT TAYO SA MGA ABORTIONISTAS?

        SIGE NGA

        SUGTIN MO YAN?

        PITIFULLY PATHETIC

        ANO YAN PARANG JUETENG?

        IF YOU CAN’T BEAT THEM JOIN THEM?

        GAWING LEGAL ANG ILLEGAL SINCE

        HINDI KAYANG IPATUPAD ANG BATAS?

        PITIFUL

      • KapitanBagwis

        hehehe itanong mo na lang sa bulaklak baka alam nila.

      • w33k3nd3r

        Our relationship with God is personal and we are born with a conscience to keep us on check. We will not be cowed by threats of a false God who resorts to anger and threatens lives with calamities and the like, weaved as superstitious voo doo by regular people who think they’re smarter by wearing robes and trinkets. God gave us the ability to think and see through the abusive use of the CBCP and their ilk to goad the needy and the hungry to follow them out of desperation; more over, they want the needy and the hungry to multiply so their f00ls will troop in more numbers– you being included in that statistic. We are no longer in the dark of coercion by the oppressive sociopath Damasos. You, my friend, are a proud product of their brainwashing and are part of the prevention of this nation’s economic progress. It is you who cannot think for yourself when all the facts are flying in your face. It is you who are pitiful.

      • txtman

        QUESTION?

        AKALA KO BA

        WE ARE THE BEST IN SOUTHEAST ASIA

        SECOND TO CHINA

        TAKE NOTE HA

        WALANG CONDOMS & PILLS

        AND TAKE NOTE HA

        SABI NG MGA ECONOMISTA

        DAHIL DAW SA POPULATION NATIN

        PITIFUL

      • w33k3nd3r

        Is your vocabulary as finite as your point of view and scope that all you use is the verb pitiful, you half wit?

      • Guest

         Half wit? Zero wit iyan!

    • txtman

      YOU KNOW GOD HAS NO RELIGION?

      REALLY??????

      MAGBASA KA NG BIBLIA.

      LAHAT NG SINABI MO, BABALIK SA IYO

      KAWAWA KANG NILALANG

      PITIFUL

    • muy_burritto

      Pills are abortificient by their mechanism of rendering the uterus hostile to a conceived baby. Science acknowledge that on Fertilization, a new human organism that is totally different from its mother and father is created and if left alone will naturally implant itself and survive.  Because if the law acknowledges that the organism has life and is human, interfering with it is killing a human.  That is why it is a sin as the constitution protects the unborn from conception.  This is what the RH Bill is trying to undermine, by the senators saying “They are not sure when human life begins” When science and doctors  already say it begins at fertilization, even with their self admitted “non knowledge” they insist it begins at implantation to the uterus.There, did I bring God into the argument?

      • Tony Deb

        Where did you get this information? You are wrong, wrong, wrong. Get your facts right before posting on the Internet, and thereby avoid embarrassing yourself. Pills prevent ovulation, that is, prevent a female egg from being released. Since the egg is not released, then fertilization can not take place.  

      • muy_burritto

        ec(dot)princeton(dot)edu/questions/ecsafe.html

        You can also use A DIFFERENT DOSE OF a number of brands of REGULAR birth control pills. While these are not sold specifically as emergency contraceptive pills, they have been proven safe and effective for preventing pregnancy in the few days after sex. These daily birth control pills contain two hormones,progestin and estrogen, and are taken in two doses. You take the first dose as soon as possible (up to 120 hours after you have sex without using birth control, your birth control failed, or you were forced to have sex. You take the second dose 12 hours later (although being an hour or two early or late probably won’t make a difference in how effective the pills are).
        From en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Emergency_contraception:

        Emergency contraceptive pills (sometimes referred to as emergency hormonal contraception (EHC) in Great Britain) may contain higherdoses of the same hormones (estrogens, progestins, or both) found in regular combined oral contraceptive pills. Taken after unprotected sexual intercourse or contraceptive failure, such higher doses may prevent pregnancy from occurring.

        End quote.

        Oral Contraceptives sold currently in the Philippines have Estrogen and Progestins combinations.  You can check Filipinodoctors(dot)com and go to drug lookup and type contraceptive and navigate to the prescription section.  Estrogens are commonly known by the name of Estradiol while progestins names are varied taking the names Levonorgestrel, Drospirenone, etc.Draw your own conclusions, but don’t tell me that these hormones are not abortive in nature.
        .

      • Jay Ann

        By your logic, “that the organism has life and is human”, everytime I masturbate, I am committing murder by millions!

      • muy_burritto

        23 chromosomes from sperm join with 23 chromosomes from egg = 46 chromosomes forming a new human zygote at fertilization. Bilangin mo chromosomes na dala ng milyones mo kung 46 yan, abay hindi ka tao.

  • PhilippineSalt

    How would these people know that the Catholic Church is not contributing in every tragedy. How about asking the born again christians. Puro lang name calling and medieval times daw ang mentality ng CC. Well… Its see… RH bill hasn’t been approved right? Look at how the Philippine Economy is doing? It is in the Up Trend… you slice it and dice it, its UP! get it… Scare tactics come into play….. Approved na man ang RH bill because it sounds like a good idea…. Meaning it get these condom and pills companies get the piece of the money pie and get the Gov’t to mandate it so that siguradong every year -mayroon budget ang government para sa kanila…. let the people pay.. this vote Yes…

    Let the free thinkers and the impartial catholics and christians to attack the topics by thier own emotions about the buhay of the kawang-gawa. Ye, Other Catholic and Christian Countries did that so we can do that too… Look they are in financial troubles but we can ignore it

  • filipinaskoh

    There is always power in prayer and it accomplished the impossible.

    But… That’s it, if you have the right attitude and the right request.

    Are these Catholic prelates misleading the people about prayer?

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    It’s disappointing to realize that after all the build-up of Cardinal Tagle as a progressive, it turns out that he is still a relic of the past. He could have broken away from the out-of-touch, irrelevant bishops of prehistoric times but chose to stick it out with them.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

    Eh kac sabi Ni Lord, Siya lang ang may karapatan pigilan ang pag create ng life o hindi. Huwag makialam Ang gobyerno. Gawin nila ng tama trabaho nila.. Huwag mangurakot at ibigay Ang naayon sa mga nangangailangan

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Si Lord nga ang may karapatan na pigilan ang pagdami ng tao pero Siya mismo ang nag-utos na sugpuin.  Ang utos Niya ay “magpakarami kayo pero sugpuin”.  Hindi ba napakalinaw iyan.  Ang hirap sa mga ipokritong Pari eh minsan lang magbasa ng Biblia hindi pa tinutuloy basahin.

      • simondj

        mali po ang interpretation ninyo,,, the word subdue means to subdue the earth. (the animals, plants and the natural resources), it does not refer to their offrings.
        granted the word subdue refers to their offrings, maybe the word subdue means to discipline them.

  • Paliwaweng

    “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish or Christian appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit”. Thomas Paine.True to this day, when Paine wrote the book Age of Reason in 1794, the enslaving of mankind remains and continued, with utmost impunity here in the Philippines.The bishops of CBCP had usurped and empowered themselves as the Almighty by using absurd reasons reminiscent during the Inquisition.
    They try every trick available just to block the RH Bill in becoming a law. Their hidden agenda: the more mouth to feed, the better as it delays progress and people will remain poor and ignorant. Ignorance will make people submissive like robots. More ignorant men, the better.

    • PhilippineSalt

      Anti-RH Bill are not ignorant people. They just know more that you do… Name calling is the trick of the Trade for the Pro-RH Bill. Enflame the emotions and suffering of the people – redirecting the blame to the wrong party… Inquisition? How do know about the inquisition and how is it related the Anti-RH Bill folks… Are they really destroying Life or it is the other. Are they redefining Life or the other? They are really taking a bite of your Money – I believe Love offering is optional. Protestants and Born Again – make you guilty if you dopnt contribute or IRS put you o jail if you ont pay..I suggest you go and read the “The Handbook of Truths behind the R.H. Bill” – Backed by Science and credible writers

      • Paliwaweng

        good suggestion buddy, but the book is biased as it is published by the bishops themselves hahahahaha.: Handbook of Truths Behind the R.H. Bill 1st edition (Oct. 4, 2012 revision). Published by the. Bishops-Legislators Caucus of the Philippines …
        If you don’t mind, may I suggest also that you read the book “The Age of Reason Part 1 and 2 by Thomas Paine, and the book of Sam Harris, “The End of Faith.
        I will heed your suggestion, I will read the treatise on the book you told me to read, as a sign of our healthy argument.

      • KapitanBagwis

        .”.I suggest you go and read the “The Handbook of Truths behind the R.H. Bill” – Backed by Science and credible writers” …the book is their opinon just like your opinion. It is the reader’s option to believe it or not.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Given that you clearly haven’t even read the RH Bill, that’s a ridiculous statement overall.

        And it is hilarious that you think that the anti-RH don’t lie and call names.  Just look at a few of the past posts and you’ll see some examples.

        As to your pathetic little citation, I’ll see that and raise you with ‘Population, poverty, politics, and RH Bill’, a paper by the faculty of the UP School of Economics supporting the bill, which actually is based off cold hard FACTS.  In it, they conclude:

        ‘We, therefore, strongly support the RH bill and urge the national
        leadership to be fully and unequivocally behind it. It is time the
        President declared the RH bill urgent.’

        So that’s the best economists in the Philippines saying it’s a good thing for the economy.  International experts and such agree with said view.

        So which side is more uninformed now?

      • PhilippineSalt

        UP School of Economics? I haven’t seen a strong product of good results from this…. puro research – research for the funding…. That’s pathetics….Show me a study that showed concrete and sustaining results….Where? What? How is it going now?

        ilang years na ba tayong maging bansa? We have so much great writings in words but puro words lang…. who are these international experts? – those in the countries with economic trouble too?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Research is what schools do.

        Do you believe you know more about economics than the UPSE?  Yes or no question.

  • KapitanBagwis

    Go and multiply and then kill the children with hunger or throw them out in the streets to become hardened thieves and criminals like what we have right now and the Catholic Church is not doing anything about the social problems in the Philippines.

    Tax the Roman Catholic Church earnings from their vast real properties and universities since they have no respect for or in violation of the separation of Church and the State as enshrined in the Philippine Constitution.

     Caesar (the state) is giving what is God’s but these modern day Padre Damasos are getting what is Caesar’s. Pathetic hypocrites.

    The Lord Jesus said ” Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s” ~ Mark 12:17

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      When I was watching the TV showing those victims in Compostela Valley lining up to receive aids, I noticed there were lots of women, mothers carrying babies and children with them.  One mother was even pregnant carrying a one year or less a year old child then some other children with them. 

      • KapitanBagwis

        Yes, that is exactly what these modern day Padre Damasos want to happen to our poor people, to be forever in bondage in poverty so that they have them in control.

        These Damasos does not want our poor to rise up from poverty  and find out the truth about the Roman Catholic Church.

        “Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free” ~ John 8:32 (NIV)

      • PhilippineSalt

        I kept reading about this Damosos – taking about out of touch… Marcos regime and on….. don’t want the poor to rise up from poverty…. recognize that if this Budget is approved for the RH bill a big percentage is going to the operational cost..I would say 25 centavos go the poor and 75 centavos goes to the corrupt…. Arithmetic really the key here!

      • KapitanBagwis

        You are entitled to your opinion.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Read up more, because you’re way off base.

    • PhilippineSalt

      You are misleading in your words!  Yes, Go Multiply…. They the church say Kill the children leave them in the street? It mans wrong attitude towards marriage and procreation not the Church.  Who do you know the catholic church not acting and helping them…. out of touch.. maybe you are…. 

      Can you say tax GOD for his own kingdom, that is why even in America – they cannot do that because of the FACT! Did you got a good education in these schools or you have
      squandered and maybe since you have money – hindi na social or trendy na maging religious…. born again is the best. 

      Do you truly understand give to Ceasar what is Caesar or you are just taking this out – to sound cool!
       

      • KapitanBagwis

        Don’t asked my education, ask the bishops what they are doing and if you didn’t understand my comment you need to enhance your comprehension skill. Better yet do not question my opinion, I am entitled to my opinion and let’s respect each other’s opinion here.

    • w33k3nd3r

      They are insulting the sovereignty of our State and nation! TAX THE CHURCH DATING IT TO THE DAY THEY SET THEMSELVES INTO OUR LAND! ADD SIMPLE INTEREST AND PAYMENT FOR DAMAGES FOR ALL THE CENTURIES OF THEIR OPPRESSIVE SOCIOPATH RULE! THEY ARE OPENLY CROSSING THE LINE OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! TAKE THEIR LANDS AWAY FROM THEM AND DEVELOP IT FOR THE PROGRESS OF THE NATION THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE! THE DAMASOS ARE THE REAL ENEMY!!!

    • Jay Ann

      Go and multiply was a commandment from God to men, long been fulfilled. We had done what has been told, now its time to stop.

      Yes to RH Bill!!!

      • KapitanBagwis

        I agree :)

        KapitanBagwis Sent from my iPhone

  • zahraff

    Once again we reiterate that there is no such thing as a catholic vote. Just look around the world, contraception has been approved in every catholic or christian countries, with special mention the Home of the Pope, Rome, Italy. If contraception was against the morals of these so called christians, then why these christians approved it, which goes to show that IT IS MORALLY RIGHT to approve it. So, for those lawmakers who are anti-RH supporters (and who are pretending to be one), just go and vote to approve it – you will be amazed that your constituents will vote for you this coming May 2013 elections. Don’t be called “STUBBORNS,” and get real beacuse the RH-BILL will surely be passed, whether we like or not!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      The Catholic Bishops continue to deceive the people by insisting that RH Bill is abortion which is farthest from the truth.  RH Bill is to give people a choice of planning a family not only for Catholics but for all non-Catholics.

      • PhilippineSalt

        CB is merely conveying the Absolute Truth… Pwede mo bang sabihin.. GOD… you said this in the bible but I will rephrase and redefine this saying of your para maging ok sa makinig. Remember Judas?

      • tamumd

        Just remember..not every Filipinos are catholics much so believe in your bible. So your absolute truth b..s is irrelevant as that only applies to you. Granting that as the truth maybe..show us where in the bible that prohibits the use of contraception. But I can show you verses where your god allowed the use of “bitter” water to abort babies conceived through infidelity. (Numbers 5:11-21). In Hosea and 2 Kings he ordered that pregnant women of Samaria and Tappuah their stomach be ripped open. How lovely and merciful.

  • Paliwaweng

    Praying for the defeat of the RH Bill? Cardinal Tagle and all anti-RH Bill, do you think God is stupid? 
    Argue your points with logic and do not base your arguments on fallacies and unthinkable dogmas.
    It is time to rectify and refrain from the lies of your church’s questionable teachings.

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      Of course God is not stupid. But if He allows Congress to pass this bill, that doesn’t make God any wiser than what you like to think. =)

      • Paliwaweng

        re:..”if He allows Congress to pass this bill, that doesn’t make God any wiser than what you like to think”..oxymoron.
        please double-check your thoughts my friend.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        No oxymoron there. I said what I said. And I’m sure that God likes it because it adheres to Natural Law. =)

    • muy_burritto

      Sige nga define the fallacies of the Church and enumerate its unthinkable dogmas.

      While your at it, please explain why you have attributed God with intelligence in your question if you think Church dogma is unthinkabl?

      • latino_boom

        When Cardinal Sin still alive I remember I was there he was about to have lunch and he was being serve with about 7 courses just for 1 person…we were being asked to join him …but i cannot…and if you go further down you have the squatter colony who caan even have a darn decent meal…A Priest in San Juan we had Sex with a Friend who is Macho gay…in America a Filipino Priest Convicted of molesting young boys…now who is the Clean one…who are really servants of God?…or this supposed servants of God will only serve themselves

      • Paliwaweng

        Church dogmas? Here are some.

        1.The triple personality of god.
        2.Belief in heaven and hell. 
        3. The divine act of creation. In the book of Genesis, it says that the sun was created on the fourth day. Was this correct? Can you explain how they say it was the fourth day when the sun was not yet created? Was it a fallacy or fabulous?

        Another dogma during the the 16th century was “that the sun revolves around the earth”, and was rebutted by Galileo where he was convicted of heresy as it goes against the teaching of the church then.
         
        Hundeds of dogmas were available for everyone to read, and a lot of books are also available rebutting some dogmas which are regarded as ‘infallible’.
        I suggest that you read the book “The End of Faith” by Sam Harris.

  • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

    I am against the RH Bill. Deep inside, I do not want it to become a law. But I am confident that it will pass. It will become a law, just like the Rizal bill of yesteryears (the Rizal Law, by the way, has produced countless anti-Catholics over the years). And somehow, I do wish for it to become a law in order to prove how ineffective it is to those who think that it will curb poverty and (the myth) of overpopulation.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      “Myth” oh, come on u more are intelligent than what u have posted……

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Thanks, man. That’s why I posted what I posted. =)

      • w33k3nd3r

        apparently he is not.

    • UPnnGrd

       NO!!!!   NO!!!   If the RH bill passes, the hundreds or thousands of Pinoys who joined the CBCP in prayers will remember FAIL.  Imagine that?!!!  More Pinoys who will remember the CBCP asked for prayers and prayers and prayers to defeat the RH bill.  You don’t want those Pinoys to think that the CBCP leading the prayers still does not bring immediate “YES” from the prayers.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        As they always say, not all prayers are answered. It all depends on our congressmen if they will allow themselves to be moved by their conscience (and based on what facts/lies they know about the RH Bill) or by money.

      • latino_boom

        Eat me

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Why dontcha tell that to yer motha? I’ll watch the both of ya.

    • Paliwaweng

      Is there a law that prohibits anyone to be anti-catholic? Freedom of belief says so, that you and me have an option, that is to believe or disbelieve any religion you don’t agree with. This what the framers of the law have in mind when they crafted it to be one of the guiding principle of human rights on religion, that is to prevent religious bigotry. 
      And do not dishonor someone or anybody like Rizal because people had turned to be anti-catholics. Prove that he was wrong through credible proofs and convincing arguments. Had he been alive today,(Rizal) am wondering if you can withstand a debate with him in a couple of minutes.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        “Is there a law that prohibits anyone to be anti-catholic?”
        ¿May sinabi ba acóng bawal? Walá namán, ah. I didn’t even imply about it when I said that Rizal Law produced many anti-Catholics. I just shared some “trivia”.

        “Freedom of belief says so, that you and me have an option, that is to believe or disbelieve any religion you don’t agree with.”
        Agree. But that doesn’t give one the right to insult other faiths just because he doesn’t believe in them (exactly like what you’re doing).

        “This what the framers of the law have in mind when they crafted it to be one of the guiding principle of human rights on religion, that is to prevent religious bigotry.”
        I beg to disagree. If you are referring to our Constitution (and I assume that you do), the prevention of religious bigotry was never on their minds (although getting rid of it is not a bad idea). Most of the framers of our Constitution were devout Catholics. One of them was even a priest. My golly…

        “And do not dishonor someone or anybody like Rizal because people had turned to be anti-catholics.”
        Really? I dishonored him? When? I just said that the Rizal law produced many anti-Catholics… how did I dishonor Rizal when I said that remark? It does not follow, dude… 

        “Prove that he was wrong through credible proofs and convincing arguments.”
        What exactly do I have to prove. Anyway, I have written a couple of “Rizal myths” in my blog. But I do not know which one do I have to prove to you. And why?

        “Had he been alive today,(Rizal) am wondering if you can withstand a debate with him in a couple of minutes.”
        Hahahaha! A debate on what? It depends on what topic, on which issue. My golly. You treat Rizal as if he’s superhuman. He wasn’t. And if he were alive today, I am positive that he will be against the RH Bill. And this I have already expostulated a year or so ago. =)

      • PhilippineSalt

        Exactly – Using a dead man name to further ones views is low. Jose Rizal doesn’t share these Pro RH View… In Absolutes , he is for justice… I don’t think he will justify the death of unborn or control of population for a end result that has not been proven. interestingly, as we speak , birth control failed in every cornerstone issues.

      • Paliwaweng

        my golly, it was in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights dude (to borrow your word). They know that a possible repetition of the darkest chapter of human history, that is during the Inquisition will happen again without safeguards. I respect anybody’s faith and opinion. My points here are disagreement on your reason why people become anti-catholics, and not an insult. They are a rebuttal, not an insult, kindly read the  thoughts.
        And I respect your opinion on Rizal, but if mine was totally different, that is because am his avid fan, having read his works at his early age until his death. By doing so, that doesn’t mean to make you assume that I thought of him as superhero, lol. For me, he is ‘just’ a hero, but a hard feat to achieve by anyone. Avoid being ‘assuming’ as they are signs of people who are below average, psychologists says.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        “my golly, it was in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights dude (to borrow your word). They know that a possible repetition of the darkest chapter of human history, that is during the Inquisition will happen again without safeguards.”Dude, I have no problem using the word dude; I find it friendlier, actually. =) Now, as I have written earlier (and it’s on record), getting rid of religious bigotry is not a bad idea. Also, I limited my answer to OUR Constitution and not to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

        I respect anybody’s faith and opinion. My points here are disagreement on your reason why people become anti-catholics, and not an insult. They are a rebuttal, not an insult, kindly read the  thoughts.OK then. Hopefully you could do the same with Muslims instead of singling out just one faith.

        “And I respect your opinion on Rizal,”
        Thank you.

        “but if mine was totally different, that is because am his avid fan, having read his works at his early age until his death.”
        I suggest that you read him in Spanish to FULLY understand him. Don’t rely too much on translations. I’ve seen a couple twisted ones.

        “By doing so, that doesn’t mean to make you assume that I thought of him as superhero, lol.”
        By hinting that Rizal could clobber me in a debate in a matter of minutes, you already did. Therefore, avoid being ‘assuming’ as they are signs of people who are below average. That’s what psychologists say.

      • Guest

         “Hopefully you could do the same with Muslims instead of singling out just one faith.”

        Can you keep out the Muslim brothers from your arguments?

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        I’m not even arguing. And I’d appreciate it if you tell the rest here to keep out our Catholic brothers from their pathetic insults.

      • Guest

         “I’m not even arguing. And I’d appreciate it if you tell the rest here to
        keep out our Catholic brothers from their pathetic insults.”

        First of all, “the rest” does not consist only of, in your words, “anti-Catholics”.

        Secondly, if the PDI moderation was more effective, the comments with pathetic insults weren’t here. I flagged them as I did in another news page but here you see no reaction.

        Thirdly, you would not even appreciate it anyway, when I rebutted some too sharp ant-clerical stances or it least give moderating aspects as some matters cannot be viewed one-sidedly.

        Fourthly, I focus on protecting my Muslim brothers and sisters.

        Fifthly, even if you cannot imagine that, I respect your belief and opinions and whatever you do is your own business, none of mine, of course.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Firstly, you know exactly who I am referring to. By saying “the rest: doesn’t mean that I am referring to “all” commenters. Don’t be too smart-alecky. You aren’t.

        Secondly, I agree with you here. Keep flagging my comments, though. For all I care. =)

        Thirdly, I appreciate intelligent criticism, not insults.

        Fourthly, I focus on protecting my faith from crazed anti-Catholics such as UrHONOR, ApoNiLolo, Jairus Aragon, etc (they’re frequent commenters here). If you do not consider yourself as one of them, then good for you. And may you keep it that way.

        Fifthly, I do not see how you respect my belief and opinion. And even if you do or you don’t, that is not my business, nor do I care. Because you are nothing but a nameless user.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

      RH bill is not anti-catholic. It is pro-catholic. Majority of the people are pro-RH and are catholic. The pope himself advises people to use condom to avoid aids. The bishops who are anti-RH are the ones who are anti-catholic.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        No disrespect to you, Jeff, but that declaration of yours is preposterous to say the least. You don’t have the numbers to prove that a majority of pro-RH people are Catholics. And even if they are (for argument’s sake), that will never suffice to say that the bill is pro-Catholic because birth control is against Catholic teachings, and the Vatican has never and will never change its stance towards it. And another laughable remark: the Pope advised people to use condoms. My golly. I know that news. It’s about a reporter who tried to twist the Pope’s words. It happened two or three years ago. Google “Nothing has changed — the Vatican is still against condoms” and be enlightened.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

        For not allowing to use condom, what will a person do to avoid aids assuming the wife has aids because of say blood transfusion. total abstinence just like what the bishops/cardinals are required to do?

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Yes.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

        That shows how insensitive, inconsiderate, if not cruel are the anti-RH advocates. Catholics are not supposed to be like that.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Why insensitive? Inconsiderate to what? And cruel? That shows how little you know about Catholicism and its defense on the sanctity/sacredness of life. Sex is for procreation. But this is something that this generation finds so funny, unappealing, and “unrealistic”. Indeed, a carnal-centered “logic” most everyone has nowadays…

      • Guest

        “Sex is for procreation. But this is something that this generation finds so funny, unappealing, and “unrealistic”.”

        Let the others live their own lives. And the other side, of course, let you also live your life.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Well, if spiritual altruism fails, I will have to agree with you there. Let good be good then. And let the other side be that way if they cannot be budged anymore. =)

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Come to think of it, I find it funny why you couldn’t see the fact that it is more insensitive, inconsiderate, and cruel to have sex with a person who’s already dying because of AIDS. My golly…

      • Guest

        The pope made the condom remarks to “flatter” the catholic populace in the more secularized countries. The remarks were not made for the more conservative followers in countries of Africa and Philippines, for example.

        The pope sees the bigger picture and you, I guess, also know that in few countries in Europe, the Roman Catholic Church is in a some way in a dire state. But it also is relatively fast losing in Brazil and some other parts of Latin America.

        These remarks were more a strategical step I guess. I also think, he was “testing out” how far he can go with a certain kind of “liberalization” (using the word(s) in neutral manner).

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        I got only two words for your three-paragraph comment: speculative evidence.

      • Guest

        Even if you don’t have to care about the Catholic situation elsewhere, but in other places, the situation for the Catholic Church is dire compared to the Philippines. Not seeing that would be a bit playing the fool (not only in the pope’s perspective).

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        “…but in other places, the situation for the Catholic Church is dire compared to the Philippines…”
        Such as what places? And what dire situation are you referring to in particular? Not that I’m “playing the fool” here, but after all the “speculative evidence” that you have shared previously, I just want to be careful myself not to be trapped by an anti-Catholic. 

      • Guest

        “Such as what places? And what dire situation are you referring to in particular?”

        If you allow me to answer: In several countries in Europe, the Church attendance saw a decline since the 1960s. You can sometimes observe in rural areas almost empty churches. The secularization in aforementioned continent is indeed a challenge for the Church and as a German, pope Benedict XVI has first hand experience on the European situation.

        So, does this sound anti-Catholic already? Feel offended already? I just stated the European situation without ranting against the Roman Catholic Church.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        “If you allow me to answer:”
        Good heavens, that’s why I asked…

        “In several countries in Europe, the Church attendance saw a decline since the 1960s. You can sometimes observe in rural areas almost empty churches. The secularization in aforementioned continent is indeed a challenge for the Church and as a German, pope Benedict XVI has first hand experience on the European situation.”Yes, these are facts. And I am aware of this. And I know exactly what the reason is. =)

        “So, does this sound anti-Catholic already? Feel offended already? I just stated the European situation without ranting against the Roman Catholic Church.”Did I even call you anti-Catholic because of the facts that you stated above? Pinañguñgunahan mo namán acó caagád, chong. You feel so guilty already I haven’t even reacted. Be mature next time.

    • Guest

      The 2nd reading of the house is over. In the 2nd reading of the house vote, 62 were absent. The potential of the “no”-faction is not yet exploited fully. So, the 3rd reading is yet a hurdle to be passed.

      The senate still has to go through 2nd and 3rd reading. And the senate is even much more unsure for the proponents of the reproductive health bill.

      Thus, it is not yet the final chapter for both sides.

  • http://pedestrianobserver.blogspot.com/ Political Jaywalker

    Palma noted that Pope Benedict XVI had said that “it is not the law of the strongest that must prevail.”

    Duh, the Catholics are the majority therefore the strongest, LOL so RH Bill must pass or it will be not just the law of the strongest which is anti-RH and if it fails to pass it then becomes tyranny of the majority, hehehe.

    13 years of debate is just too long, pass it now so we can move on to bigger and better things to pave the way for legislation that will help in development.

  • Lumad01

    It is a big sin to God if you can not provide food and education to your kid.even it is one kid only. it is a big sin.if you are rich okey to have even many kids as long as you can provide the kids that is okey.kids are angels.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    PASS THE BILL !!!!!!

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

    Majority of voters regardless of religion are PRO-RH Bill.  Kahit tanungin nyo pa si sottong anti-RH after the election dahil wala nang boboto sa kaniya.

  • UPnnGrd

    NO!!!!   NO!!!   If the RH bill passes, the hundreds or thousands of
    Pinoys who joined the CBCP in prayers will remember FAIL.  Imagine that?!!!  More Pinoys who will remember the CBCP asked for prayers and prayers and prayers to defeat the RH bill.  You don’t want those Pinoys to think that the CBCP leading the prayers still does not bring immediate “YES” from the prayers.

    What will be next? Prayers sometimes don’t work to porr-tekk Pilipinas against typhoons like Pablo or Ondong?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PASS R.H BILL WAG DAANIN ANG BANSA SA PADASAL” CARNIVAL TAGLE EXTREMIST TERRORIST”

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Do not PASS R.H BILL  DAANIN ANG BANSA SA PADASAL”  Papa uwi ka na!

  • jinx

    For one, RH bill institutionalizes freedom of choice for all couples.  Birth control methods will be accessible, but NOT coercible.  Under a democratic system, everyone should have equal opportunity to government service including health and family planning. The absence of such a comprehensive bill enables self-serving politicians to deprive people, especially the poor, of such essential health care, just as what happened in Manila City under Atienza and Barangay Forbes.  Without the bill, these politicians and religious hardliners are like wolves, lurking under the shadows, waiting for the right opportunity to deprive people of their choice once they come to power again. 

  • ThadeusSimon

    1 Chronicles 16:31 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; And let them say among the nations, “The LORD reigns.”
 Psalm 99:1 The LORD reigns; Let the peoples tremble! He dwells between the cherubim; Let the earth be moved!Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 

  • quirinomayer

    There is nothing in the New Testament which points to Jesus and the
    disciples getting interested in government business. There is nothing
    there which says they opposed this or that government action  or policy.
    On the other hand, there are passages which point to them respecting
    the government and government functionaries.  Jesus himself said:
    “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to  God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21). St. Paul wrote: “Let every soul be subject to government authorities. For there is no authority except from God,and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists  the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring  judgment on themselves” (Romans 13:1-3). St. Peter:  “Therefore submit yourself to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake,whether to the king as supreme. Or to governors, as to those who are sent by  him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good” (IPeter 2:13, 14).

    This preoccupation of this bunch of modern-day Pharisees   with politics is entirely their own and does not proceed from God. It is just motivated by Padre Damaso’s love for power and intent to continue holding this nation under his thumb.

    CONGRESSMEN, RELEASE US FROM THE POWER OF PADRE DAMASO NOW.
     

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Jesus was crucified as a “rebel.”  It was the capital punishment that time. Remember the two criminals at either side?

    • PhilippineSalt

      Hmmm,..Devil in Sheepskin…. Remember.. John the Baptist was beheaded for standing up to adultery….

      Padre Damaso – story from Jose Rizal is old and outdated…This is current!!

      CONGRESSMEN, RELEASE US FROM YOUR POWER OF BONDAGE AND CORRUPTION – LEAVE US ALONE AND VOTE AGAINST THE RH BILL AND ITS SUPPORTING COMPANIES.

  • w33k3nd3r

    Do not be afraid, Representatives. These are just mere people in robes and trinkets, claiming to be the ordained messengers of our Creator. They are agents of an ancient corrupt institution that thrive on the despair of the hungry and the needy and want them to multiply so they can subdue the world with their lies and their abusive use of God’s name. Our hero, Dr. Jose Rizal foresaw that their conniving ways will prevent our race’s progress. Ignore their threats! TAX THE CHURCH DATING IT TO THE DAY THEY SET THEMSELVES INTO OUR NATION! ADD SIMPLE INTEREST AND PAYMENT FOR DAMAGES FOR ALL THE CENTURIES OF THEIR OPPRESSIVE SOCIOPATH RULE! THEY ARE OPENLY CROSSING THE LINE OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! TAKE THEIR LANDS AWAY FROM THEM AND DEVELOP IT FOR THE PROGRESS OF THE NATION THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE! THE DAMASOS ARE THE REAL ENEMY!!!

    • PhilippineSalt

      This is outdated and irrelevant. after World War II, we have the opp to change but we didn’t…. Marcos Regime and on – is the one continually destroying our society. The Catholic Church merely is conveying the absolute truth… you can’t say GOD this is what you said 2000 years ago but since today is dec.11,2012, you are really outdate and your supervisors(cardinal) are really saying the same thing, BORING!!! I will rephrase and define it for you. Jose Rizal is my saint, not you…..Damsos Jose Rizal didn’t wrote to hate the religious, he wrote for justice from our oppressors (Spainards) now our Government (so called elected) . He wrote to teach Respect and dignity and righteous thinking and practice….not communism and minimizing the obvious

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Outdated daw?  Kahit million years pa di outdated. Ikaw tumatae ka pa rin ba? DFapat tigil na dhail outdated na rin di ba?  Spaniards ?  Ikaw ang outdated.  Pilipinas ito.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Damaso daw.  Bobo ka na backward pa haha hehe

  • PhilippineSalt

    So if this RH bill is approved! Let’s talk how much budget and how much is going to the poor…. For every peso spent — 25 centavos goes to the poor and 75 centavos goes to the pill/condom, supplies and operational expenses? cool…. when can I bid? Who do I approach? anybody with connections?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       MULTINATIONALS PO!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Read the bill before making stupid comments.

      The vast majority of the bill (around 11B of 13B total, IIRC) goes to expanding maternal health facilities in government clinics and hospitals, and hiring more midwives to cover the entire population.

      2B is going to the bits the Church is up in arms about, though IIRC that would also include things like sex ed pamphlets.

      And no, not a centavo is going to the poor, because this has never been a cash handout programme.

      Again, read the bill before making stupid comments, please.

    • latino_boom

      Idiot

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

    bishop1:  kabaro, parang maipasa na ang RH bill ah.  talo tayo.
    bishop2:  parang ganuon na nga. sayang talaga, mas masarap pa naman sana pag walang condom.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Masarap nga pero ikaw gusto mo pa libre,  hehehe

  • txtman

    SIGE IPASA NINYO YAN

    AT MAKIKITA NINYO

    THE REAWAKENING OF THE CATHOLIC VOTES

    MASKI 5 MILLION VOTES LANG YAN AT LEAST

    SEMPLANG NA KAYO LAHAT DYAN

    PAPASA NINYO NGAYON

    NEXT PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS

    TANGGAL NA YAN

    PITIFUL

    • latino_boom

      Am a Catholic …so will God send me to Hell because I’m favor of RH BILL…or a Priest in San Juan who paid my friend to have sex with him…now tell me

      • txtman

        SINABI KO BA NA PUPUNTA KA SA HELL?

        STUPID

        PITIFUL

  • txtman

    THIS COMING ELECTION

    DO NOT VOTE FOR

    LAGMAN

    GARIN

    CAYETANO

    PITIFUL

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Or, vote for all three to annoy txtman!

      Genius!!!

      • txtman

        SO WHAT

        SABI NGA

        YOU VOTE FOR THEM

        EH, DI MAGDUSA KAYO

        PITIFUL

    • latino_boom

      I will vote for them Yes to RH BILL

      • txtman

        EH DI IBOTO MO

        YOUR ONE VOTE

        IS

        10 VOTES AGAINST THEM

        IBOBOTO NAMIN MGA KALABAN NILA

        PITIFUL

  • txtman

    EXPOSE ALL THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OF

    LAGMAN

    GARIN

    CAYETANO

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH

    PRO-RH SIGE NGA

    BIGYAN NINYO NG CONDOMS & PILLS

    MGA ANAK & APOS NINYO

    IF YOU TRUELY BELIEVED

    THAT RH IS GOOD

    PITIFUL

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Tapos yayaman daw sila.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      I love how you think that’s something unthinkable somehow.

      I don’t have a kid, but I’d be perfectly fine with doing so, and I’d imagine most rational people would be as well.  It’s far better than the kid going and getting HIV, or becoming a teenage father.

      • txtman

        INENG SAGOT DYAN

        KUNG HINDI MO KAYA

        WAG GAWIN

        AS SIMPLE AS THAT

        PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Tama!!! Kung di mo kaya, wag gawin!

        Di mo kaya mag type na matino, kaya mag mo na gawin!

      • txtman

        UYYY

        KAUSAP MO NA NAMAN SARILI MO

        PITIFUL

      • txtman

        WHAT IS SO UNTHINKABLE?

        YUNG

        PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH?

        ITO DAPAT ANG UNTHINKABLE

        KEEPING OUR MOUTH SHUT

        WHILE MASS KILLING OF THE UNBORN

        ARE BEING DONE

        PITIFUL

      • Kalapok

         ow!! you don’t have a kid!! now I know why behave like that… defensive and unreasonable!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        How does not having a kid make someone defensive and unreasonable?

        Anti-RH ‘logic’ at work, folks.

    • ManongOsang

      Txtman,

      Bakit nila bibigyan ng pills & condom ang mga anak nila ? When their adult children & adult Apos can get it themselves when they become adults !

      Yes, their adult children & adult apos will avail themselves of condoms & pills… just like 95 % of Wealthy, highly educated adult Filipinos have been using for the last 35 years!

      Just like 75% of all middle class, educated Filipinos who have had access & have been using condoms & pills for the last 35-40 years!

      The ONLY people who NEVER in their lifetime used or had access to Condoms or Pills are the 70% of ALL Filipinos who are classified as “POOR” or “LOWER INCOME” because they could NEVER afford these Family Planning tools!

      Ergo, these “Poor” Filipinos have an average of 6.5 children per family while families of middle class & wealthy filipinos today have an average of 2.5 children per family !!!

      You are MAKING it SOUND like Condoms & Pills are DIRTY, BAD, EVIL !

      Either you are a VIRGIN or one ” hell” of  Catholic who Who Believes that EVERY WORD a Priest tells you comes from God !!!

      PLEASE !!! Priests are human just like you & me!

      REMEMBER THAT ! They like to put their own INTERPRETATION by creating “MAN MADE LAWS” & tell people like you that it came from God!!!

      GISING KA NA !!!!

      By the way, Do you have the the Money & the Food to Feed 35 million & growing of Filipino children below 18 yrs old who DO NOT GET to Eat 3 meals per day???

      Kaya ba ni Tagle pakainin araw araw ang mga batang ito na UMIIYAK sa Gutom araw araw???

      • txtman

        QUESTION

        PAPAANO YUMAMAN ANG ISANG BANSA?

        YUMAMAN SILA

        KASI

        MAGANDA ANG PATAKBO NG EKONOMIYA NILA

        MABABA ANG CORRUPTION

        AND ASK ANY ECONOMISTS

        THE GREATEST WEATH OF ANY NATION IS
             ITS PEOPLE

        NGAYON TANONG MO

        PAPAANO PAPAKAININ ANG MGA GUTOM?

        WELL, YAN PAMBILI SANA NG CONDOMS & PILLS

        AY SAPAT NA YAN

        PAMBILI NG PAGKAIN

        AND

        BESIDES

        ANG GALING MONG MAGSURVEY HA

        PARANG TRUE

        PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        The best economists in this country support the RH Bill, so don’t bring up economics unless you’re prepared to claim that you know more about economics than the faculty of the UP School of Economics.

      • txtman

        SINO?

        EXCUSE ME

        UP SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS

        SUS, MADAMI DYAN MGA BOBONG PROFESSORS

        PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        The dumbest professor the UPSE has ever had still will have forgotten more about economics than you will ever know (which isn’t that hard, but still…).

        The faculty was near unanimous in recommending the bill, so that’s the best economists in the country saying it’s a good thing economically.  Do you honestly think you, an inbred moron who can’t work a keyboard properly, know econ better than them?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Dude, respect for this, but save the arguments for someone who isn’t…. well someone who isn’t txtman, basically.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Kulang ang logic.  Di dahil sa sila ay nag contraceptives kaya sila yumaman. Kahit ilan anak nila yaman pa rin dahil mayaman na sila at at may edukasyon at iba pang resources.  Si Pacman dami anak yaman pa rin.

    • latino_boom

      I will just Jackt-o** or maybe be suc***…or i will have somebody to do a Hand*** on me…see i”m PRO RH-BILL…or you can have the pleasure of giving it to me

      • txtman

        ASAL UNGGOY TALAGA

        WELL, BAGAY KA NGANG MAGING MUKHA

        NG MGA PRO-RH

        PITIFUL NA BABOY

    • frudo

      ano ba masama sa condom at pills? ikaw ba di ka ba gumagamit ng condom? ang masama kung naka buntis ka at di ka pa handa at ipapa abort mo? saka bakit ko bibigyan anak or apo ko ng condom or pills eh pag adult na sila makakabili na sila nun?

    • riccisan

      bago ka magbigay ng advice, ayusin mo spelling, grammar, at netiquette mo. welcome na lang po sa internet.

  • Hey_Dudes

    WOW….ang dating basura spewers sa Philstars na ngayon ay hindi na maka-post at banned,  dito naman ngayon sa P D I nagkakalat ng basurang nalinis na sa Philstar?  Moderators please keep watching….

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Matagal na sila nagkalat dito ngayon ka lang nagreklamo?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Panay ang insulto nila tapos pag na-resbak ay iiyak?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Halos walang moderation dito.  Kung meron maraming posters sa thread na to ay na ban na.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Mga bastos ang iba.  Walang galang. Spaniards ang tinutukoy minsan na ang layo ng argumento. Sila ang murahin nyo.

    • batangsulpok

      Ang PhilStar ay ayaw magsabi ka ng tutuo na kung tamaan mo ang kanilang kilala o kamag-anak, lalo na mga corrupt sa gobyerno ay i-delete ang comment mo, ikaw ba, na-ban din kaya nandito ka?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      freedom of speech, kung ayaw mo demanda mo sa supreme court

    • riccisan

      naku, may paid trolls pa diyan. halata naman

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Is it wrong that I really want Carlos Celdran to show up in front of this rally / whatever with a Mitsubishi full of little boys?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Bakit sya pa?  Ikaw pala? Para kang langaw?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Nasa Espanya ako, so malamang di ko kaya gawin yon.

        Kung ma delay ang rally na to sa Dec. 27-28, ako gagawa, sige.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ako sa Quiapo kaya malapit lang tayo.  :D

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Maling Espanya.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Maling quiapo din.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

        Bobo mo la ka utak, o chinopa ka ng pare nyo kaya nawala utak mo.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         inggit ka lang.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Come up with Responsible Parenthood Bill preserving the Filipino culture and family values with less budget.  Use the money directly for education and job-creation.

    • frudo

      tama naman yan sinasabi mo na yan responsible parenthood kaso ang tanong paano magiging responsable kung walang education, walang kaalaman, kung di lang sana nagkulang ang simbahan sa pag tuturo ng responsible parenthood sa mga tao dahil ayaw nila ng contraceptive di sana wala tyong rh bill na pinaguusapan dito, kaso wla eh lomobo ang population natin so it means ang responsible parenthood method na yan ay hindi naging efective sa mga Pilipino, isulong na at pagbotohan na ang rh bill ng magkaalaman na at tangapin ng desisyon ng nakararami

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Sinong msy sabing uncontrolled population lang. Kundi responsible and moral way of control. Di aritificial at di promiscuous.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    The Brave ITALIAN Lwamakers faced off the pope and gave the people Universal RH in 1970.

    Be not afraid of the lowly bishops.

    PH is a Democracy, not a Theocracy.

    The Majority Prevails.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Bobo!  Heto basahin mo: 
      Theocracy is a form of government in which a deity is
      officially recognized as the civil Ruler and official policy is governed
      by officials regarded as divinely guided, or is pursuant to the doctrine of a particular religion or religious group.[1][2][3]

      From the perspective of the theocratic government, “God himself is recognized as the head” of the state,[4] hence the term theocracy, from the Greek θεοκρατία “rule of God”, a term used by Josephus for the kingdoms of Israel and Judah.[5] A theocracy may have an administrative hierarchy
      of the government identical with the administrative hierarchy of the
      religion, or it may have two ‘arms,’ but with the state administrative
      hierarchy subordinate to the religious hierarchy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Yes, the Philippines is not a theocracy: that’s what he said.  Sang-ayon ang pinost mo sa sinabi niya.

        Ikaw ata ang bobo rito.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Hina ng utak mo.  Di pala theocracy eh bakit pa nya ibanggit dahil kinukumpara nya. Gising ka na?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Sinabi nga niya na hindi ganon ang Pilipinas.  At tama siya.

        Mukhang di mo lang naintindihan.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Sino ang nag claim?  Wala sya lang.  Kaya ibinalik sa kanya.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Yeah, work on your language comprehension, please.  Halatang di mo siya naintindihan.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        English na lang kaya? If he did not allude and implicitly accused why mention it? He implied that the bishops are confused thinking we are a theocracy. Entiendes mi amigo? Bago ka sumagot: Kung pinahalgaan ng mga obispo ang teachings and values di theocracy yon.. Sya ang confused, ok?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Nope, it’s you.

        He said that the Philippines WASN’T a theocracy.

        You looked up the dictionary definition of theocracy and posted it, as if you were proving something.

        So yeah, you’re confused.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Andyan ka pa pala? Bakit nga nya binanggit?  Kung wala syang purpose? Eh di sya bobo kundi sira ulo. Banggit na wlaang intention.  Hehehehe.  Theocracy daw. Basahin mo paliwanag ko sa taas.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Just go take a language comprehension class so you can see what he was saying, please.  I can;t be bothered to explain it today.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        You are SO full of “Pseudo Intellectual Sh_t”…,
        but a FAILURE in “Practical Knowledge”.

        Look and observe at the “urban-street-children”.
        What have you and your group done to improve 
        the lot of these ever increasing unfortunates.?
        These are only in the urban areas. 
        What about in the rural areas ( which are X 10.).

  • ArSiEs

    Ang RH Bill ay talagang MASAMA! Masama sa Negosyo ng Simbahan. Imagine, pag kumaunti ang populasyon, kaunti ang magpapabinyag, kaunti ang magpapakasal, kaunti ang magpapakumpil, kaunti ang magpapamisa sa Patay, at higit sa lahat, kaunti ang mag-aabuloy!

    Puede ba, wag na tayong magmalinis pa, lahat naman tayoy may LIBOG sa buhay. Normal lang yan, kasi tao tayo’t parte talaga yan ng pagiging tao natin; naishare naba sa inyo ng CBCP o ng mga pari kung paanu nila ito pinaglalabanan? Bat di nila naisip na magbigay ng libreng seminar about natural family planning lalung lalo na sa mga mahihirap na kumonidad? Sabagay, libreng kasal nga di nila maibigay, kailangan pa ng pulitiko para maisakatuparan.

    Hindi pinagsasaksakan sa baga ng bawat mag-asawa na required silang mag family planning, kung sino lang naman ang may gusto diba? At hindi lahat ng Pilipino e Romano Katoliko. Panu yung ibang Relehiyon na ang tingin sa Natural o Synthetic Family Planning ay hindi masama?

    Sa skul ba ngaun, di na tinuturo yung anatomy ng sexual organ ng babae at lalaki at yung mga stages ng pag develop at epekto nito sa isang katawan? Yung RH Bill bang yan sexual positions ba yung gustong ituro sa mga eskwelahan? Di naman diba?

    Panghuli, please! Wag na kaung umastang close na close kayo ng D’yos. Na keysa eto kasalanan o masama, kasi nagpapaka-Diyos na kau. Kahit anung himod nyo sa pwet ng mga pari, madre, ministro, pastor etc. ninyo, sa bandang huli, its just between  YOU and your GOD. S’ya lang ang may karapatang manghusga kung anu kaman. 

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Maganda pala  eh bakit di ka sumali para ganda din negosyo mo?

      • ArSiEs

         Ha ha ha ha…

  • ManongOsang

    FINALLY !!!

    Poor Filipinos will have ACCESS to REAL Family Planning which Middle class & Wealthy Filipinos have had ACCESS & USE of Condoms & Pills for the last 40 years!!!

    For Tagle… close to 40 million children below 18 yrs old DO NOT get 3 meals per day.

    Papakainin mo ba sila?

    Papagamutin mo ba sila?

    Pa-pa-aralin mo ba sila ?

    Poor Filipinos average 6.5 children per family with ZERO access to Family Planning tools.

    Middle class & wealthy Filipinos today average 2.5 children per family ! They CAN AFFORD & HAVE USED & ACCESSED Condoms & Pills for the last 4 decades!

    These PRIEST, ALL MEN, have NEVER BEEN MARRIED, NEVER had to feed a family, NEVER had experience with the TREMENDOUS STRESS & PAIN of Married couples who CANNOT provide Food, Clothing & Shelter for their 6.7,8,9 children!!!

    FINALLY ! It took Pnoy’s courage together with WOMEN’s groups to Say… ENOUGH is ENOUGH! 

    • latino_boom

      very well said mate

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Responsible Parenthood MINUS the ills of contraceptive promiscuity.  Family Planning with Filipino values! 

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Mahirap lang kami.  Yayaman ba kami sa libreng condom? O yong mga mayaman pa ring negosyante? Kasama na mga kurap na politiko?

    • latino_boom

      LAWAKAN MO ANG PAG IISIP MO ….IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT CONDOMS….GALING AKO SA MAHIRAP AS IN MAHIRAP…DI KO ALAM NA MAY HITSURA AKO…NAGING ARTISTA NAGING MODELO…MARAMING BABAE ANG UMAALIGID…PERO DI KO PINATULAN …BAKIT? KC AYOKO MADAGDAGAN NA NAMAN NG TAO ANG BAYAN NATIN NG MGA BATANG WALANG SAPAT NA EDUKASYON, BAHAY AT WALANG MAKAIN…SA NGAYON I THINK I’VE GONE A LONG WAY…I ADOPTED KIDS…WAS ABLE TO SEND THEM TO GOOD SCHOOL…ACTUALLY 2 JUST GRADUATED COLLEGE, 1 WILL GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL AND 1 WILL GRADUATE ELEMENTARY NEXT YEAR…NOW I THINK TAMA ANG NAGING DESISYON KO AND I THINK RH BILL WILL HELP EDUCATE YOUNG PEOPLE ON SEX AND HOW FAMILY CAN PLAN FOR THEIR FAMILY

    • riccisan

      may punto ka ng konti. pero through RH Bill, dapat free ang condoms. yayaman tayo sir, dahil makakatipid tyo dahil hindi dadami anak natin. at magiging edukado tyo dahil sa  further family planning. and its not about condoms lang, mrami pa po.

  • judemos

    Ang laki na ng populsyon natin, kailangan talaga ng mga tao, lalo na ang mga mahihirap, ang access to free sexual education at maternal health care.  kung hindi sang-ayon ang simbahan na magkaroon ng access ang mga mahihirap sa any form of contraceptive dapat sabayan nila ng pagtututro ng sarili nilang respnsible parenthood at family planning ang mga tao.  Pwede rin naman nilang gawing libreng serbisyo to sa simbahan.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap . . .

      • brunogiordano

        Sa ngayon lahat ng mga corrupt ay kasama at kapanalig ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

         heneralisasyon, isang istupido at inbalidong rason, at itoy naayon sa mga taong halatang walang kokote.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    epasa ang RH BILL para sa kapakanan ng lahat hindi mga pari maging kokonti ang mag aabot ng aapbuloy sa kanila…para din sa kabutihan ng mga mahihirap na walang ginawa kundi gawa ng gawa ng bata dahil sa wala silang kaalaman sa family planning…di naman masama RH bill provision matuturoan lang yong mga walang kaalaman sa pagplaplano ng familya…go go go RH bill hirap na hirap na ang pilipinas sa dami ng population 100million 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

       ang abuloy ay para sa Diyos at ito ang nagsusustento sa mga pari. hindi rh bill ang sagot sa kahirapan. kami mahirap lang dati pero hindi condom ang sagot kaya kami nakaahon sa hirap. edukasyon. hindi natin pede sisihin ang simbahan dahil ito ay tumutulong sa atin para itama ang moralidad ng sambayanan.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    ibagsak RH Bill.  Kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap.  Binawi na ba ang ganong prinsipyo?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      ikaw ang ibagsak, junior ka pala, saan sa kabit ng tatay mo?

    • judemos

       may corruption man o wala kailangan pa rin ng mga tao ang free sexual education at maternal health care.  ngayon na ngang marami ng mahihirap kailangan lalo natin nitong RH Bill.  Kung ayaw talaga ng simbahan ang RH Bill pwede naman silang magsulong ng sarili nilang responsible parenthood sa mga simbahan, gastusan din nila.  Magturo sila ng sarili nilang sex education.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Good suggestion.  Dagdag lang: Wag gamitin ang tax ko sa free condoms sa libog ng iba. Tnx.

  • blowcoldblowhot

    The bill as pro-poor is a misnomer. The RH bill is not for
    the poor. It will be the big pharmaceutical companies and politicians that will
    benefit the most from the RH bill. If the RH Bill proponents want to help the
    poor, they should give to the poor that P3.7 billion that they are intending
    for the RH by way of creating more jobs, facilitating more skills-training
    programs, and constructing more classrooms,”

    You would not give condoms and contraceptives to starving
    families. You have to give them food instead. The Philippines is poor not
    because of population, but because of corruption, errors of economic policies,
    and bad governance,

    What about the provision on the RH bill enabling unmarried
    men and women to benefit from taxpayer-funded contraceptives, the P3.7 billion
    measure seeks to provide to the public.
    Senators also recently approved provisions
    allowing minors to purchase contraceptives even without parental consent and
    giving the government the duty to ensure a safe and satisfying sex life for the
    people. What are they promoting here, values or promiscuity?

    • tamumd

      If the catholic church is willing to share part of their P19 billion investments to the poor and open 50% of the enrollment in their private schools from elementary to college to poor students and allocate 50% of the hospital beds in their private hospitals, I would be the first to change side and call to scrap the RH bill. HOwever until that happens….the catholic church has no right to be talking about taxes and government funds as they themselves don’t pay a centavo for income taxes.

      Those erosion of values and promotion of promiscuity b…s are all conjectures and has no empirical basis whatsoever. It’s part of the “sky is falling”wishful campaign of the CBCP.

      • latino_boom

        Very well said mate…one of open minded people

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

        Ano ka sinuswerte, di wala nang panggimik mga pare sa mga night club o pangdate sa mga boy toy nila at kabit.

      • tamumd

        :-)

      • mucho_cheapo

        Very well said.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

        haha you just gotta love these anti-church notions. para mo na ring sinabi na dapat ibigay lahat ng pork barrel sa mga mahihirap.
        well, how much ba magpatakbo ng libo libong simbahan? eh mga skwelahan? it dates back hundreds of years ago, sino nagpatakbo ng mga kolehiyo at unibersidad na nagbibigay trabaho sa milyo milyong pilipino ? libre ba magpatakbo ng ospital? bakit mga publikong ospital sa probinsya hindi man lang mapondohan ng gobyerno? mga skwelahang walang mga upuan at kulang kulang na titser, hindi lang mapondohan? pero may pondo para sa condom para sa kalibugan at para may kickback ang mga opisyal?

        get your facts straight before you assume on something and post it here.

      • tamumd

        Don’t pork barrels exist to support the projects of congressmen in their districts? Maybe not just for the poor alone but for all their constituencies.
        Not every parish across the country has their own school. The financial budget of each parish totally depends of the church collection. If there is/are school/s attached to a parish church..they are are independent organization in terms of budget which they get from the tuition fees paid by the students. Glad you mentioned that it dates back hundreds of years, however I am sure you know what kind of students go to their schools. Only those privileged..those who have lots of money. If they’re so concerned about education of the poor…well they are not doing enough to help. My proposal is not trying to obliterate their bottom line as I only want half of their enrollment. What would they do with those money? After all the church believes that riches/wealth is a hindrance to their journey to  “kingdom of god”. They should walk their talk…not just lip service. This same is true with their hospitals.

        The reason why the government is always catching up with the perpetual shortage of books and classrooms is coz their are close to 2 million warm bodies that are born every year. You could build as many classrooms  as you want..we would never catch up with ballooning population. It like chasing your tail forever. That also applies to the hospitals and other social services.

        Which facts are you disputing? Why don’t you show you own valid facts to dispute my arguments?

      • blowcoldblowhot

        I still stand with my statement “The Philippines is poor not because of population, but because of corruption, errors of economic policies, and bad governance,” 

      • tamumd

        lol..no one is depriving you of your opinion. However it doesn’t mean it’s correct.

  • PhilippineSalt

    Current the Global economy is down but the Philippine aren’t. So why scared about the 100 million… if not for are kapwa pinoys overseas(these are family will many children)…. philippine is and will be poor. The OFW are the most kind and thoughtful cause they work and send money for thier families even though they don’t have to. Philippines – have no resources, we have no lands, no cannot be a big manufacturer.. all we have is us – people and we control that? FYI…. if we don’t procreate like no manyana…. we will be left out with these rich Pro RHers who are equally greedy and busy lining up their pocket to ensure the gov’t ensures thier beliefs and pockets.

    At the current.. Why Fix the not Broken!! Junk the RH bill.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      Why be scared?  PH is the world’s largest importer of Rice.

      If some crop failure should happen to Thailand or Vietnam (which happens from time to time),   Mass Starvation shall result in our country.

      When that happens, all the bishops can do is pray.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        In the 1950s when the Philippines had a population of some 20M..,
        we were an exporter of rice.
        Ever since we hit a population of over 50M, 
        we have been an importer of rice.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Tagalogin mo na lang nahilo at dumugo ilong sa baluktot mong English grammar.

      • tamumd

        Hahahahahahaha.

      • tekateka

         Resulta yan ng pumalpak na Birth Control Pills..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Yeah, most of the country is in poverty and you think something isn’t broken.

      Delusional.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      See…, your argument supports the RH..!
      Have you noticed that the countries
      the OFWs work for ALL PRACTICE the RH..?

      These OFWs sacrifice being away from their families. 
      And their families suffer because of this separation.
      Now, don’t you say that being an OFW is a good thing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FPVUYCML46QCAJM5N2O4GNID24 tony

    It is okay with the CBCP for the Philippines to continue having unwanted babies who have no hope of ever getting a decent life (decent house, food, education and health care) because as far as they’re concerned, they DO NOT PAY ANY TAXES therefore the poverty does not hurt their financial profits. On the contrary, having all those indigent people helps give the impression that the CBCP & by extension the church is relevant as it suposedly helps those indigent people but in actuality, the church makes a profit from them thru the collections during masses.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Sino ang may sabi na gusto nila?  Ikaw at ang barkada mo ang may sabi.   Sabi nil ang budget ay pwedeng i-channel to benefit the poor directly, education, livelihood, etc.  minus corruption sa contraceptives.  Ang collection ay abuoly ng mga katoliko suporta sa simbahan nila.  Ikaw magkano ba abuloy mo. Kung Pinoy ka suporta mo rin ang Pinas.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

       oo kailngan ng abuloy bakit? paano makaka kain ang mga pari, administratibo ng simbahan? pano makakabayad ng bills sa kuryente, tubig, etc? paano nila mapaptakbo ang mga milyon milyong kumbento, simbahan, skwelahan: kolehiyo, o unibersidad? paano?

  • Htee

    Hehe…ipagdadasal nalang daw nila….ano kaya ang sinasabi nila sa dasal nila…Dyos ko po…sana hindi pumasa ang bill na ito…hihina ang kita namin nito…hahaha.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       sssshhh   hahatian kita.

  • padre_damaso

    bishops…whatever.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       pinapatawad na kita sa ginawa mo sa aso mo . . .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

    Nakialam na naman mga damaso, inggit sila dahil wala silang sex life. Ay meron pala sila with the altar boys. Sana, simbahang Katokliko magpakain don sa mga may maraming anak para maranasan nila hirap ng pamilya ng may maraming anak.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

       oo ang simbahang katoliko nagpapatakbo ng mga libo libong orfanages at nagpapakain ng mga bata sa mga libo libong kumbento. ang simbahang katoliko ay nagpapatakbo ng milyong milyong skwelahan,kolehiyo unibersidades buong mundo, praybeyt man o publiko. hindi ba mahirap yon?

      • brunogiordano

        “oo ang simbahang katoliko nagpapatakbo ng mga libo libong orfanages at nagpapakain ng mga bata sa mga libo libong kumbento.”

        Sa TUNDO at SANTA CRUZ, MANILA maraming bata ang naglaboy at nagugutom at walang maayos na tirahan.

        Bakit hindi ito inaaruga ng simbahang katoliko samantalang marami silang simbahan sa kapaligiran ito.

  • tekateka

    These Bishops should be Castrated first… then have their Businesses Taxed!!!

  • brunogiordano

    “Bishops gird for RH bill battle”

    Bakit ang mga OBISPO ng CBCP kasama ang Cardinal ay nais makipagaway

    Kapaskuhan na at marami sa mga kristiano ang hangad ay PEACE.

    Nabuang na ba ang mga katolikong OBISPO at naghahanap na ngayong ng away.

    Maupo na lang tayo sa isang tabi at antayin ang resulta nga botohan sa RH.

    At kung ano man ang maging resulta panatlihin natin ang PEACE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Is this “gird for battle” the same campaign as the “middle-ages crusades”…?

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

  • tekateka

    Jesus did not even exist.. see why

    Youtube:
    Religion the greatest story ever sold

    • brunogiordano

      “Jesus did not even exist.. ”

      Lumang balita na ‘yan.

      alam na ng lahat ‘yan.

    • PhilippineSalt

      oh the tree of knowledge – you tube.. hahahaha… how gullible can you be

      • tekateka

        yeah.. morons like you watch.. eat bulaga..!

    • jin2012

      To the atheist.

      Proof of God is in prophecy.
      If the Bible were myth, why then are there so many archaeological artifacts from the historical accounts found in the Bible? (ref: en . wikipedia . org/wiki/List_of_artifacts_significant_to_the_Bible)

      There are 2000 prophecies out of 2500 that have already been fulfilled. Some of them in the last 100 years.

      Here is -one prophecy to note (Matthew 24) that is already about half fulfilled:
      The Roman Catholic Church banned, burned Bibles and the Believers who read it or had a copy for 600 years (~1200s to 1800s), and used an army to murder 50-100 million people in its ~2000 year history. Despite all that power, the Bible did spread, and today it is estimated that 7.5 billion Bibles have been printed since 1816 and are in circulation in 2370 languages. 100 million are being sold per year, not including electronic copies. Compare it with the prophecy below written ~2000 years ago:

      Matthew 24 (Jesus speaks)
      “14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”

      Tell me how “any man” can make 2000 prophecies come true across 6000 years of Biblical history?

      The Book of Isaiah was written in ~700BC. The oldest copy mankind has is dated ~300-120BC thanks to the Dead Sea Scrolls.

      Isaiah:
      9:6-7 [born as a human male]
      7:14 [born of a virgin]
      37:31 [from the House of Judah]
      11:1-10 [from the root and stump of Jesse]
      16:5 [from the House of David]
      9:1-2 [from Nazareth of Galilee]
      49:6, 42:1-6 [mission included the Gentiles]
      29:18, 35:5-6 [ministry included miraculous healings]
      61:1-2 [ministry would deliver spiritual captives]
      53:3 [despised and rejected by men]
      49:7 [hated without cause]

      So what are the mathematical odds of ALL that (and more) coming true at the right time and place in ONE man?

      In fact you just helped make the prophecies in Isaiah 53:3 and 49:7 come true.

      Next the atheist says, even Christ never existed.

      The Sanhedrin executed Jesus. He is recorded in the Talmud. Sanhedrin 43a – “Eve of Passover, Yeshua was hanged etc..” The Talmud also refers to 5 disciples of Christ, it states how old he was when he died, and how the Romans got involved.

      So the question to the atheist is:
      Why would the Sanhedrin document a “mythical” enemy?
      That’s like saying the CIA is documenting mythical enemies rather than real terrorists.

      Thallus wrote about the execution of Jesus, his writings date up to 52AD.

      Flavius Josephus, a member of the Pharisees and court historian to Emperor Vespasian made references to Pilate, Caiphas, Jesus, James – brother of Jesus. So why would he risk the ire of the emperor in reporting several mythical figures?

      Artifacts (physical evidence): There is Pilate’s Stone, the Ossuary of James that states: James – Son of Joseph, Brother of Jesus. There is also the Ossuary of Caiphas, where his body was found including coins dated to 42AD.

      Tacitus wrote about the burning of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD.

      Jesus prophesied about the destruction of Jerusalem in Matthew 24.
      Myths do not prophecy. Matthew was written in 41AD. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD by Rome.

      Reader’s Digest, Encyclopedia Brittanica lists Christ as FACT.
      Even Einstein believed Jesus Christ existed.

      Finally, a question to the atheist,
      name me just one movement in history that has 100,000 followers and has survived for at least 300 years without a real leader.

    • GKLer

      Tekateka believes nature created us.

      So who created such a complex machine called nature?

      It took 13 years using super computers to map 25,000 genes and 3 billion chemical base pairs that make up human DNA. All that complexity is by accident? Somehow, the slime pits you think you came from managed to create something that complex by accident?

      I’ll give you 3 billion LEGOs, lets see if you can accidentally create 25000 parts that makeup something complex by throwing them in the air for 10 billion years…oh but wait…you were the “intelligent” being behind the “throwing them”…so we can’t do that.

      Instead….

      Evolution 101:Single atom iron based life forms evolved into my Honda (which has 25,000 parts) after zillions of years, all on their own….

      ….and somehow it even started when I turned the key.

      Evolution as an equation: Everything = Nothing + Lots of Time + Accident = STUPIDITY

      It requires more faith to believe in Evolution than to believe in God. That’s how illogical Evolution is.

      Evolution is a pseudo science,just like alchemy, astrology. Darwin failed in science 101: observation. He compared his own children to dogs, and likely his mother, mother-in-law and his wife to an ape he met. Despite his attempts in becoming a real scientist, he actually believed in God.

      So tell me how “Lucy” even looks like Ms. Lin Ketong?

      All those ape-like drawings you see that have skin instead of fur, and the cave-man haircut are ALL ARTISTS’ INTERPRETATIONS based on a few teeth, partial skulls. None of them left behind a self portrait.

      We are not as gullible as you who believe in Evolution.

  • UrHONOR

    BAKIT hindi mag-vigil ang mga TNL na yan sa mga kabaro nilang PEDOPHILE, IMMORAL, at KUPITEROs?  Bakit hindi mag-vigil sa diyos nilang ikinukulong nila sa tabernakulo?  Bakit hindi mag-vigil para hindi uma-alis ng tambakan ang mga nasilo na nilang mga sheeples sa kanilang samahang ANO?  Bakit? WALANG KODAKAN at walang press release.  PSHAW!!!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

      • UrHONOR

        PURE RATIONALIZATION.  Regardless of what the MOTIF or OBJECTIVE is, the END does not justify the means.  Quotations from sources that are self-serving are insignificant.  Spirits and doctrines and what have you are “BOXED” responses. No thread…no thread at all!    

  • blowcoldblowhot

    The
    RH bill will not help the poor make that choice. It will be enforced on them.
    It is the state, not the church that is overstepping its bounds by denying
    individuals the right to choose. In depopulating the world the teeming poor
    would bear the brunt of coercive state control. The thinking here is if they
    are poor and ignorant they are dispensable and we should have less of them. It
    is a class war.

    • EOJ

      Isa ka pang kampon ng mga damaso na puro panlilinlang ang ginagawa. nothing is enforced to anybody, rich or poor. the RH bill only gives the information through education and the choices and it is up to the person to decide. As of now, condom is already available in drug stores but only the rich can afford them. the poorest of the poor can benefit if they choose to avail of free condoms in brgy health centers.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

         EOJ, isa ka pang nagmarunong runongan.  rh bill is a start of something worse, that is abortion.
        “poorest of poor” can benefit if they choose to avail free condoms – bakit sasagutin ng kaban bayan ang kahayupan at kalibugan ng tao? i

      • tamumd

        How do you know it’s the “start of someting worse that is abortion”, when it is very clear in the provision that says..”it proscribes abortion”? Furthermore it states that whatever existings laws on abortion we already have..the RH bill won’t rescind those. You, like the rest of the CBCP ilk love to scare people about your usual “the sky is falling” alarmist lies without any empirical basis whatsoever.

        By the way the income taxes that you and I pay do not have any religious face to them once we turn over our money to the government. It is up to the government to decide what to do with those money for the good of its citizenry whether or not your agree with them. I am not complaining why my tax money is used to feed those murderers in Bilibid. I am not complaining why my tax money is used to build roads and water lines and other utilities leading to your house. So the same thing should apply to you. NOw since the CBCP and the rest of the clergy don’t pay any income taxes at all…they then should just shut up!

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

      • blowcoldblowhot

        The bill as pro-poor is a misnomer. The RH bill is not for
        the poor. It will be the big pharmaceutical companies and politicians that will
        benefit the most from the RH bill. If the RH Bill proponents want to help the
        poor, they should give to the poor that P3.7 billion that they are intending
        for the RH by way of creating more jobs, facilitating more skills-training
        programs, and constructing more classrooms,”

        You would not give condoms and contraceptives to starving
        families. You have to give them food instead. The Philippines is poor not
        because of population, but because of corruption, errors of economic policies,
        and bad governance,

        What about the provision on the RH bill enabling unmarried
        men and women to benefit from taxpayer-funded contraceptives, the P3.7 billion
        measure seeks to provide to the public.
        Senators also recently approved provisions
        allowing minors to purchase contraceptives even without parental consent and
        giving the government the duty to ensure a safe and satisfying sex life for the
        people. What are they promoting here, values or promiscuity?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      How can the State enforce upon the poor (meaning: against their will) the RH..?
      Is this another half-truth of the anti-RH…?

      • PhilippineSalt

        You deluding yourself just for the sake you can talk. Half-truth halft truth ka pa dyan

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Aaaaand we go back to the anti-RH camp’s main weapons: lies and misinformation.

      Pray tell, where exactly is your proof that the bill will impose choices on poor people?

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

         tl:dr

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

  • kulittwit

    Mga obispo-damaso paki sagot:

    Bakit ba ang mahal mahal ng tuition sa mga catholic schools e hindi naman kayo nagbabayad ng buwis?????

    Wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga businesmen basta makatubong lugaw kayo!

    Wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga pulitiko! bulag, pipi, at bingi kayo kapag mga kabaru nyo ang nabisto na tumanggap ng mga SUV at pajero kapalit ng katahimikan nyo sa mga kurakot ni arroyo!!

    Mga epokrito!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

       although may mga korupt na mga pari at obispo, hindi makatarungan na sabihin at idamay ang simbahan. bakit? makasalanan ka rin naman di ba? lahat tayo makasalanan tulad nila.

      epokrito? bakit ikaw ba hindi?

      • kulittwit

        Isa ka pang tanga! wala akong binanggit na simbahan! Hindi ako nagmamalinis na tulad nila! tanga!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pumps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!  

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

  • brunogiordano

    “Bishops gird for RH bill battle”

    AWAT na mga OBISPO ng CBCP at mga CARDINALS.

    Magpapasko na ayaw namin ng AWAY.

    Antayin na lang natin ang resulta ng ng botohan sa RH.

    PEACE!!!! Sa lahat!!!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Why doesn’t the Good Bishops put their efforts to better use.

      Instead of supporting the “Anti-RH” why don’t the Bishops
      support the “Anti-Dynasty” Provision in Our Philippine Constitution…?.?.?

      • yesyesyo

        The damasos are as confused as you are. they forgot their priority which is to spread the good news of salvation and to uplift spirituality of catholics.

        They do not even notice that less and less catholics attend sunday mass every sunday. they do not think of creative ways to attract and motivate churchgoers to attend sunday mass regularly, a basic catholic teaching.

        Instead, they are very busy politicking.

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

  • joerizal

    Sabi ni Vidal leave it to prayers…tapos umentra itong si Reyes na icha-challenge sa Supreme Court kapag pumasa. Hindi na prayers yun kung ganon.  Bibigyan ko ng piso ang unang kongresista na maghahain ng bill para i-eliminate ang tax-exempt status ng mga naglipanang simbahan.

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • joerizal

        You need help. See your nearest health clinic and ask for some anti-depressants. That should sober you up.

  • quirinomayer

    By moving heaven and earth to defeat the RH Bill, the members of the CBCP are ignoring or even defying the words of Pope Benedict. In his encyclical letter Deus Caritas Est,  Pope Benedict  XVI states: “29. We can now determine more precisely, in the life of the Church, the relationship between commitment to the just ordering of the State and society on the one hand, and organized charitable activity on the other. We have seen that the formation of just structures is not directly the duty of the Church, but belongs to the world of politics, the sphere of the autonomous use of reason. The Church has an indirect duty here, in that she is called to contribute to the purification of reason and to the reawakening of those moral
    forces without which just structures are neither established nor prove effective in the long run.

    The direct duty to work for a just ordering of society, on the other hand, is proper to the lay faithful.  As citizens of the State, they are called to take part in public life in a personal capacity. So they cannot relinquish their participation “in the many different economic, social, legislative, administrative and cultural areas, which are intended to promote organically and institutionally the common good.” [21] The mission of the lay faithful is therefore to configure social life correctly, respecting its legitimate autonomy and cooperating with other citizens according to their respective competences and fulfilling their own
    responsibility.[22] Even if the specific expressions of ecclesial charity can never be confused
    with the activity of the State, it still remains true that charity must animate the entire lives of the lay faithful and therefore also their political activity, lived as “social charity”.[23]”

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    No amount of Prayers will help the Anti-RH. WHY…?
    Because, many of their facts in presenting their position are 
    nothing but lies or half-truths, which are worse than outright lies.

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

  • marcos_hitler_diktador_tuta

    The bishops should take their battle to the strrets where there are many neglected children and bring them to their care.

    The RH Bill will pass no matter what. What a waste of energy.

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pumps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!  

      • marcos_hitler_diktador_tuta

        If true to your word, have you applied to adopt street children needing homes now? You talk of conscience, please tell me more what it is all about.

  • Bengatibo

    Tagle, Cardinal ka pa naman. Bishops defy Vatican!!! Wala nang pag-asa ang Pinas hanggang sumasawsaw sa politika si Padre Damaso. Hindi niyo kailangan ang prayers para matalo sa botohan.  The Congressmen have a conscience to vote what is right. I will pray for Divine Intervention that the Bishops to stop meddling in our politics. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

       “hindi nyo kailangan ng prayers para matalo sa botohan” – kailan pa hindi nakikinig ang Diyos sa mga dasal?
      “the congressmen have a conscience to vote what is right” – may consensya nga pero ang moralidad tama ba?

      • tamumd

        Whose version of morality… the catholic church’s rotten version? This is your church’s version of morality. Preventing unwanted pregnancy by use of artificial means is a sin because god says so. Oh no…that’s abortion… that’s murder. If you call that murder..well every time you polish your carrot you’re murdering human by the millions. Everytime you scratch yourself  and a fleck of skin comes off…you’re murdering a human being. I guess you could apply the same idea to tumors that are surgically removed. However the church hierarchy has no qualms of hiding errant priests involved in child sexual molestations. They even use delaying tactics by hiding documents that could be used as evidence or reassign those monsters only to molest more children. Bottom line is they don’t have genuine concern for those hapless children. What they’re more worried about is their reputation. Is that the kind of rotten morality you’re brandishing about?

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaining hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!

        Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

  • Kalapok

     psssssst!! hayaan mo yan sya! josepa yan sa espanya.

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    Sino ang pupunta sa panawagan ng mga obispo? Yung mga maraming anak na di nila mapalaki ng tama….yung ang mga magulang na humihingi ng awa para sa kinabukasan ng kanilang mga anak….yung mga walang pakialam sa mga anak, habang ang kanlong at kaladkad ay aso.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879876556 Carlos Porras

      mga pupunta sa panawagan ng obispo ang mga taong nanampalataya sa Diyos at nanalangin na hindi ipatupad ang rh bill. mga anak na hindi nga napalaki nang tama pero may pananalig sa Diyos at hindi tulad mo, na “pinalaki nga tama” akala moy kung sino feeling na matalino at mas nagmamagaling pa sa Diyos!

      • brunogiordano

        mga pupunta sa panawagan ng obispo ang mga taong nanampalataya sa Diyos at nanalangin na hindi ipatupad ang rh bill.

        Paano na kung YES vote ang naging resulta????

        Maniniwala ka na mga OBISPO lang pala ang nanawagan at hindi ang DIYOS.

        Sana matuto ka nang magisip magisa at hindi sunusunuran sa utos ng mga OBISPO, dahil hindi ka naman alipin nila.

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

  • blainz

    There’s no lack of prayers from the anti-RH side; so should we take it to mean that if the RH bill passes, God wills it? Are Filipinos such blessed saints that we can be denied common sense measures already adopted by the rest of the modern world?

    Get real.

    Let’s remember that Vidal and Palma are the archbishops most responsible for shielding the pederast Monsignor Garcia from the law, and that no priest has ever been jailed for molesting children despite Tagle’s own admission of escalating complaints.

    The bishops ought to include this verse in today’s mass:

    Matthew 7:5

    “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

    • ever green

      vox populi vox dei….the hypocrite priests and bishops are not blinded by beams but by money..hahaha…

  • just_anotherperson

    Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord – Psalm 33:12

  • yesyesyo

    To all damaso, what is a bishop doing in the board of directors of san miguel corporation? is that also for spiritual growth of catholics???

     

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLN7DWHPJSNQZQJKZQ4LEU4VKE LabuyoB

      Di ka nag iisip, paano naging spiritual ang corporation? Economic siyempre, flesh and blood din mga bishops tulad nating lahat, di mga kaluluwa!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pumps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!  

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaigning hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

    • boypalaban

      to all proRH: MAMIMIGAY NA RAW KAYO NG CONDOM SA MGA SINALANTA NG BAGYO…

  • agaylaya

    Ang labanan ay hindi lang sa Congress. Maging batas o hindi ang RH Bill ang tunay na labanan ay sa puso at pag iisip ng mga tao, Katoliko man o hindi.  Anti RH Bill ako but if
    this bill becomes law it would not stop me to practice my being Catholic and neither
    will the Catholic Doctor, the Catholic Mid wife, the Catholic Educator and so forth. As a Filipino citizen  I also adhere to the democratic way of life and I understand why I should give space to others to practice their faith freely and legally without prejudice. It is this same principle which allows me to practice my own faith freely and even to preach it to others who wish to listen.

  • lucidlynx

    may boto ba ang Diyos sa pag-pasa ng isang bill? at kung meron, ilang boto ito?
    the hard truth is: No, God doesn’t have a vote in the passage of a bill. And God will not also make any person change his mind because God Himself has given man FREE WILL!

    it is just up to that person to follow what he believes in and suffer the consequences of his actions, if any.

    so mga obispo, you can’t pray for something that God would not even listen to. it may be God’s will that the RH bill do not pass, but we don’t really know what is God’s will. and it is up to man to make the choice.

    over population is not God’s fault but man’s. and if man can’t control himself, laws have to be made, also by man, to minimize the sufferings of our people that go along over population.

    this bill is just not about the right to life of the unborn child, it is much deeper than that. I have not read the bill and if there’s something in there that promotes abortion, then I am against it. so far, I get conflicting stands from both sides, so I don’t know. the authors seem to be responsible people and I trust president Pnoy that he will do the right thing.

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

  • brunogiordano

    “The overnight vigil continues (Wednesday), with Masses at 6 a.m., 8 a.m, 12 noon, 5 p.m., 6:30 p.m. and 8 p.m. Cardinal Tagle will celebrate the Mass at the Shrine at 12 noon,” said a statement from the Archdiocese of Manila.

    WOW!!!

    Isang katutak na misa niyan ah.

    Ibig sabihin tatabo na naman ang mga abuloy.

    Ang galing talaga nilang mang-SCAM.

    Payag ba kayong maging mg SUCKERS??????

    • boypalaban

      KUMUSTA NAMAN ANG MGA PASTOR MO NA ANG LAKAS MANGULIMBAT SA PINAGPAGURAN NG IBA?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLN7DWHPJSNQZQJKZQ4LEU4VKE LabuyoB

    Makidalo ka sa Misa roon para malaman mo ang mga pinagsasabi mong scam.

    • brunogiordano

      Hindi ako SUCKER kaya hindi ako dadalo sa alin man misa.

      • bgcorg

        That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
         
        The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
         
        Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
         
        The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
         
        It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • mang_empoy

        Obviously, hindi ka nga sucker, very judgmental lang as a person at mahilig mag-akusa ng mga scam-scam na yan.

  • rightist

    Pass the RH bill now, senators and congressmen! The people demands it!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • boypalaban

      ikaw lang yung people…KAIN KA PA NG CONDOM…KAILANGAN MO YAN PARA GUMANA LALO UTAK MO…SA KALIBUGAN….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHRCFJCTTELDGFBR7NTBO5VFJQ Chokla

    The CPCP and its ALLIES are ADVOCATES of SCUMM BANKINGS and PRO SEX-SLAVINGS in the PHILIPPINES and of the WORLD!!!!!!!!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • boypalaban

       BAKIT VAKLER, DI KA BA PINAGBIGYAN NUNG MAY GINAPANG KA PARA TSUPAIN SA KANILA?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIVAL TAGLE ANO GINAWA MO SA PILIPINAS BINABOY MO GINAWA MONG BASURA MAAWA KA SA MGA MAHIHIRAP WAG MO DAANIN ANG PILIPINAS SA PADASAL TERRORISTA” KATOLIBAN”

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

      • tamumd

        Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaigning hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Yong baboy natin buntis na naman papa.  Ano na naman ginawa mo?

    • boypalaban

      PEDOPHILE KUMUSTA NA?
      ILAN ANG TSINUPA MONG NAKAHUBO NA STREET CHILDREN KAGABI?

  • ManongOsang

    My cousin is a Jesuit Priest. He estimates that anywhere from 30% to as high as 40% of all Filipino Catholic Priests are Pro-RH Bill PRIVATELY !!!According to him, nakikita ng maraming pari how millions of poor families are ruining their own lives, the future lives of their children, and the past, current, and future economic hardships that it brings poor communities and the entire nation as a whole- because of IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR BY UNEDUCATED, POOR PARENTS! They see thousands of poor mothers suffer daily.Any active priest must 100% side with the church on this  PUBLICLY or face SUSPENSION OR outright REMOVAL from the catholic churchHe said 90% of priests who are anti-RH bill are Priests who are 55 yrs or older. But the younger generation of priests are majority pro-RH bill in privateHe said 90% of ALL Nuns are PRIVATELY  Pro-RH bill as well !!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2RVERYUPGBL4EHNMB2QNIQTFS4 Boying

       Well Osang perhaps your Jesuit Priest cousin is also privately not a true blooded Catholic!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFVPH2R22XWJ3Z6QOP3WBA6KA4 EC

        True blooded Catholic or not, that Jesuit Priest is a true follower of Christ because he can see and feel the suffering of the poor, as Christ did, and do something about it.

      • boypalaban

         ganon?

        KUNG KAHARAP NI KRISTO NGAYON ANG NAGUGUTOM, ANO IBIBIGAY NIYA CONDOM O PAGKAIN?

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • boypalaban

      propaganda…

      outright removal? nasusulat ba yan sa Canon Law?

      di ako katoliko pero pinag-aralan ko ang mga yan…

  • brunogiordano

    “But the younger generation of priests are majority pro-RH bill in privateHe said 90% of ALL Nuns are PRIVATELY Pro-RH bill as well !!!” @manongOsang

    Tama yan sa buong mundo ngayon.

    Kung nais nilang mag-EDSA revolution supportado sila ng buong bayan.

    Palitan ang Pope ng isang Cardinal na tulad ni CARDINAL MARTINI.

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • boypalaban

      UMAYON MAN ANG LAHAT NG TAO SA MAKASALANANG BATAS, MAKASALANANG BATAS PA RIN YAN….

  • regd

    Let me attempt to explain this RH prayer issue (forgive my theological viewpoints).
    God does answer all our prayers. (Each side, bothsides basically all sides)

    How? Ans: He sent His Son. Even now we still don’t understand He is the answer to all our prayers!

    But how does that answer the pro-RH and the anti-RH prayers?
    Ans: Very simple, He went about His business and never got involve in politics. The poor Guy didn’t even want to be involve in land dispute. 
    He just called the politician at that time (herod) as ‘FOX’ because he was cunning & self serving. I agree the congress fits that description which the bishop can freely publicly express to. But to impose a religious view is out of the question since Jesus never did impose His. He allowed each persons God-given brains to function.

    • regd

      Oopps, I forgot to include: The RH bill is both a blessing and a curse. Each person has different motive as each of us are not wired the same. If this RH bill do pass (as I believe it will), it is up to each individual how they’ll use this. Do not condemn people for their opposite views and impose yours, it’s called democracy! This is actually my point.

      MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • simondj

      Herod antipas was not a politician, he was a king upon the blessing of the Romans, yes, his father, Herod the great was a king also upon the blessing of the Roman. for in that time the Jews were under the Roman ocuupation. Jesus said,, tell that fox (Herod),,, because herod was a jew profess to know the law of moses and at the same time his allegiance is on the Roman. and many jew do not recognize him as a king.

      • regd

        Herod, under roman rule and blessing (he was not and never was annointed as king of jews, he claimed that role via the romans), gained his power through brute force and political manipulation. He had little support from common people around Jerusalem. He lived in constant fear then tortured and executed his enemies. If you think that an ancient king cannot be equated to a politicians of today, you’re dead wrong!

      • simondj

        correct, although the bible recorded he was a king, but a king without kingdom, because they are under a roman authority. yes i believe you, ancient kings can be equated to as politician of today, but Jesus was not crucified because of political cause.

  • ever green

    I don’t care whichever way the RH bill goes. Kung ma-approve ok lang kung hindi OK din lang. What I don’t approve is the F****ing CHURCH trying to influence, I think a better term would be, to threaten the legislative body of the country to vote on the RH bill according to what the church wants…..mag-sit in pa sa congresso mamaya…..

    • bgcorg

      That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
       
      The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
       
      Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
       
      The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
       
      It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • simondj

      correct ka diyan, dahil si Jesus hindi nakialam sa usapang pampolitika.

      • boypalaban

        pero siya ay pinatay dahil sa pulitika…

        at si Juan Bautista ay pinatay dahil sa pulitika..

        at mga unang Kristiano ay pinatay dahil sa pulitika…

        aral ka muna bago ka magkomento nang sablay…

      • simondj

        he was dragged into court on account of blasphemy (he a mere man claiming to be the son of God or equal with God) by the parishees to the Roman authority, the verdict was crucifixion, and the penalty was executed by the roman soldiers. what is your question?
        hindi po dahil sa politica kaya namatay si Kristo. dahil hindi siya naki alam sa politrica, bagkos siya ay sumunod sa hatol ng mga romano sa kanya,,, oo, hanggang kamatayan sa krus.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Ang krus ay “capital punishment”  (bitay) sa panahon po na yon. Pinagbintangan syang gustong maging “hari” na ibig sabihin mag coup de tat daw sya.

      • simondj

        so, what is your point?

      • boypalaban

        ayos…galing…bakit hindi siya binato hanggang mamatay kung blasphemy ang kasalanan niya?

        si Hesus ay threat sa mga Romano na sumasakop sa lupa ng mga Hudyo kaya siya pinapatay….sa krus…pagpatay sa mga kalaban ng mga Romano…

        aral ka ulit…please…

      • simondj

        binato siya, pero tumakbo siya at nagtago sa maraming tao. basahin mo John 8:59.
        si Esteban po ang binato hanggang mamatay, basahin mo Acts 7:59
        okay , paliwanag ko, pwede siyang batuhin hanggang mamatay, kasi kaugalian nila iyan. pero noong panahon na yaon wala silang authority para lumitis, o kahit mayroon man wala silang karapatang humamatol ng kamatayan. ibig sabihin ang death penalty noon ay tinanggal din nila sa kanila,,, gusto nila patayin si Jesus kasi, he being a man make himself God or co equal with God,, kaya punta sila sa roman judge,, to have him crucified. 

  • bgcorg

    That Catholic Bishops are so much against the passage of the rh bill into law should make everyone think “why”?  Surely, it is not for themselves.  Surely, it is not against the poor.  Surely, it is not contraproductive to the overall welfare of the country.  Level-minded legislators should understand that this is not a party matter, but a vote of conscience – informed by the right Christian principles and values, human, legal and spiritual.  It is hoped that legislators, guided by the Holy Spirit and the power of God would see that poverty should be fought by the horns, i.e., directly, by job generation, giving the poor equal opportunities and challenges to productivity, not by giving condoms and contraceptives away to them.  Be careful where you are leading this country to!
     
    The rh bill had become a monstrosity.  Amendments to the bill have been turned down.  Now the bill indeed does not need to pass, for it is not perfect “in all its parts” (“for something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” -St. Thomas Aquinas), It is barreling it through, against reason and good sense, by the sheer despotism of numbers!  Thus, the bill which will be the “imperfect” work of the legislators NOW DESERVE EVEN MORE TO BE REJECTED!
     
    Legislators, like real statemen, should have their values rethought and vote NO TO THE RH BILL!  They should have eternal values among their highest priorities, rather than be swayed by politics or lobby money.  As St. Thomas More said it so clearly, “I am the king’s faithful servant, but God’s first.”  The doctrine of God’s Church is so clear about life: life is a sacred gift: it must be protected, before, during, and after, for we are all made to the image and likeness of God.  The right to life must be respected!  It is a fundamental right of every human being and no one has the authority to block it from becoming, by not being open to it.  Only God has this authority and power.  Legislators have no more power than that the state was made for man, not for the latter to be sacrificed for the state!
     
    The thinking that we ought to be modern as others are, is a wrong proposition.  We should rather look at the aspirations, hopes and dreams of the Filipino people, proud and free, and going back to our roots, build on our cultural values, traditions, ethics, mores, laws, religion and practices.  We must be willing to stand up as a people and FIND WAYS TO FIGHT POVERTY AND CORRUPTION, NOT WITH MEASURES THAT LEAVE US WITH CARROTS AT THE END OF A STICK!  The “straight way” is clear: work for full human development so that the poor NOW would have more in law, more food on the table, more roof over his head, more work to keep body and soul together, more shirt on his back, more education for the very young, more primary health care, especially for mother and child.
     
    It is a specious argument intended to delude to say  that the bill is for maternal and child care.  We know that, instead of an irrelevant bill, the less controversial portions could just become amendments to already existing laws; there is no need for another superfluous law that require funding from public money and if lacking to support provisions of law, scrounge for borrowed funding that would put the future of young Filipinos in jeopardy,  Or, become recipient of grants that will enslave, rather than truly liberate and break free our women from abuse, be regarded as mere sex toys, and expose them to many medical side effects.  For what?  Only because it is the fad today?  What about freedom and responsibility?  Do we throw it out the window?  Do we hear the Lord knocking at our door? Open the door and do not ignore the divine Healer who comes to break bread with you.  “He who listens to you, listens to me and to the one who sent me.”  TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THAT VOICE.  VOTE ACCORDING TO A RIGHTFULLY FORMED, “CERTAIN” CONSCIENCE AND AVOID THE DEVIL who roams around, roaring like a lion, seeking someone to devour.”  Let us fight him; reject him and all his works and pomps. We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  No to the RH Bill!

    • tamumd

      Ah the HYPOCRITE extraordinaire is back! This is the guy who swear by his absolute concern for some imagined life with regards to RH bill…but turns around and was campaigning hard for the Recto’s version of the Sin Tax Bill. He wanted to keep those poor smokers to continue to slowly kill themselves and those around them. He wanted preteens to start the vice of smoking by wanting to keep the  prices of tobacco the cheapest in the world. He wanted to let those drunks to continue to terrorize their families and their neighborhoods by having easy access to alcohol. And that is supposed to be a christian concern for life….my foot!Well seems like you’re gonna get the double whamy by the end of today. The Sin Tax bill has been approved. Highly likely the RH bill will get passed this next hurdle. lol You better pray harder. lol

      • sked482

        Well there’s much more money in tobacco and alcohol than in artificial contraceptives. Kaya si Enrile kinakampihan mga tobacco companies pero anti-RH.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Dito pala sa thread na ito nagsama-sama ang mga born-againsts, tulad ng Quiboloy, Villanueva, Almeda, Soriano, Manalo….

    • boypalaban

      ….oo nga kaso soplak sa akin pa lang…paano na kung may iba pang matindi dito sa mga argumento laban sa mga bulaan na yan?

  • vinzerx

    Awesome. More print space for bishops in Inquirer. This is already a non-story at this point, as we all know the Church sees the bill as the devil’s work. So why repeat the same story again and again?

  • UrHONOR

    NAGPAPA-CUTE na naman ang mga naka-paldang puti para masabi na PRO-POOR sila, habang ginagwardiyahan nila ang limpak-limpak nilang bilyones sa mga investment houses at financial institutions na dapat ay na-ipamahagi sa mga maralita at nangangailangan. Samantala, abalang-abala sila sa pagpapaganda ng mga mansion nila, mga sasakyang mamahalin na ang mayayaman lamang ang nakakakayang bumili, mga pagdiriwang na dadaluhan nila, mga ibang bayang dadayuhan nila, at kung ano-ano pang mga ka-echosan…..habang ang mga mahihirap na hirap-na-hirap silang suportahan sa kanilang high-living ay patuloy nilang inu-uto sa pag-brain-wash na, “Mahal kayo ng diyos kaya maraming mahirap ang ginawa niya”.  PSHAW!  Unang-una, paano nalalaman ng mga TNL na mga lintang yan kung ano ang gusto ninuman maliban sa mga sarili nila (SUV)?  Galing naman ng mga Damaso na nalalaman nila ang gusto ng diyos nila (“Ang gusto ng diyos para sa inyo ay kayo ay magpakahirap tulad ng paghihirap naming mga naka-paldang puti”).  Palagay ko tumatanggap ng text msgs ang mga TNL na yan araw-araw mula sa diyos nila na kinukulong nila araw-araw sa iang lalagyan.

    ANAK ZaPOTE, ga-bundok ang problema ng kanilang samahan na kung ano-anong IMORALIDAD ang pinaggagawa tulad ni Yalung na dating bisyap ng Antipolo na nagka-anak habang nasa trono siya na may helmet at naka-sayang puti.  ISA..ISA lamang na pagpapatunay ay sapat na upang isuka at itakwil ang PINAGGAGAWA ng mga TNL na yan.  Pero, sa halip, dahil napaka-lalim na ng pagka-brain-wash ng mga Sheeples, bale-wala lang ang kahit na ano, kasi will of god, eh.  PSHAW!  Wala pa dyan yong mga nakulong na naka-palda dahil sa embezzlement, fraud, child molestation, atmpb. ANONG uri ng Pinoy ang mga ito….sumasalangit sa hirap, pagod, pawis, at dugo ng kanilang KAPWA-TAO?  ANO???

    • boypalaban

       SI LAGMAN AT BRENDA NA TAGAPAGTANGGOL NG IDOL MONG MAGNANAKAW NA PRESIDENTE AT THIEF JUSTICE ANG TUNAY NA PRO-POOR…

      • UrHONOR

        CATHY T. Anne mo!

  • lastofdmohicans

    The self-righteous hypocrites who’re part-time spiritual shepherds and part-time priest of mammon are fighting irrelevancy.

    It makes me grimace in disbelief seeing this modern day Padre Damaso unabashedly proclaim mystical stuff like linking Pablo to the RH bill.

    Talaga nga naman.

    They would rather see the Filipino people forever in shackles in endless cycle of poverty…rather
    than have a population management in place.

    We see everyday talamak na crime, patayan, nakawan, drugs, exploitation, sex slavery, corruption,
    hunger, cruelty, hopelessness and all the evils that come from overpopulation…

    …BUT we haven’t seen these purveyors of mysticism get aroused, get angry and mobilize like veteran trapos – kumpleto with matching threats or pagbabanta – like they do with the issue
    of population management.

    WHY ???

    WHAT’s in population management that the CBCP (I would rather say CBCP bec I wish to differentiate it from the Vatican) FEAR SO MUCH???

    Takot ba silang mawala ang nakikita nating street children araw-araw na sing dami ng langaw ?

    Takot ba silang dumami ang mga batang nakakapagaral at lumaking mulat? 

    Takot ba silang makitang umunlad at gumaan-gaan ang buhay pamilya ng susunod na salinglahing Pilipino na marunong nang kumontrol ng dami ng kanilang anak  (remembering how the number of kids is directly proportional to the probability of poverty) ??

    Takot ba silag makita na dumami ang magkaroon ng trabaho dahil sa pantay or matched na bilang ng tao at bilang ng available na trabaho?

    Takot ba sialng kumonti ang squatter dahil pumapantay na ang bilang ng nangangailangan ng bahay sa bilang ng available na pabahay?

    Takot ba silang makita na may sapat na kama, gamut at doctor at nurses sa bawat Pilipinong may sakit??

    Takot ba silang makitang kumonti ang mga taong nalulong sa droga…nalulong sa krimen dahil
    lumaki sila sa kahirapan, lumaki silang walang patnubay ng kanilang magulang na na paralisado dahil sa sangkaterba nilang mga anak ??

    And we can go on and on.

    Like the experiences in Latin America, CBCP thrived in condition of despair and so want to
    perpetuate the condition of despair

    Their influence has been around for centuries yet our country is only known for poverty, crime, corruption  and semi-slaves. 

    Free our people.  Release the shackles of centuries of intrusion that brought nothing but misery to our people.    Pass the RH Bill now.

    • boypalaban

      ” We see everyday talamak na crime, patayan, nakawan, drugs, exploitation, sex slavery, corruption,hunger, cruelty, hopelessness and all the evils that come from overpopulation…

      AT ANG SAGOT PALA SA LAHAT NG YAN AY CONDOM AT CONTRACEPTIVES?

      HULI KA NA…AMBABAW MO MAG-ISIP…CONGRATS!

  • mang_empoy

    Buti na lang hindi lahat ng anti-catholic ay kasing bitter ng mga nasa forum dito, palaging galit at wagas makapang husga sa kapwa.

    I hope the bill will not be passed but I have to admit that Pro-RH people have a strong chance to win. Kung sakaling maipasa ang RH Bill sana hindi nito dalhin sa mas maraming kapahamakan ang Pilipinas, sana hindi ito pakinabangan ng mga kurakot sa gobyerno na nagkukunwaring pro-poor at pro-women. Let History be our judge kung tama ang desisyon na ito (since some do not believe in God anyway).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    Bishops are Filipinos, you are a Filipino. We are equal……..Why is it that you have the right to express your opinion and the bishops are not allowed? Pilipino din sila………….NO to RH Bill.

    • tamumd

      Because they don’t pay income taxes. NO taxation …NO representation.

      • mang_empoy

        That is a narrow-minded reasoning.

        The Filipino children, although not paying taxes, have a right to express themselves. They have a right to be heard and listened to.

        If the Constitution mandates that the bishops/priests pay their taxes, fine! But if the same Constitution mandates otherwise and upholds the right of every Filipino citizen to express him/herself then let their voices be heard.

        Please do not be too simplistic (No taxation… no representation, huh?!).

      • tamumd

        Not unless you practice child labor..why in the world would you tax children? By virtue of their being minors and dependents…when their parents file their income taxes each of these children are accounted for and factored in to the amount of taxes to be paid. So in effect it’s their parents who are paying for them.

        However the bishops and the catholic church in general are earning money on a daily basis without even working from collections. The church is also earning money from their billion peso investments.

        That’s not being simplistic..that just the reality of things. Why would we give special favor to an institution whose purpose is supposedly for the ‘salvation of souls” yet love to deep its fingers in the affairs of the state to the point of hijacking the legislative process?

        So Yes…NO taxation…NO representation!!! Take it or leave it.

      • mang_empoy

        What I’m trying to say is: Every Filipino citizen has a right to express his/her opinion irregardless of age, education, social standing, political leaning, economic capacity, etc.

        Ok, if that is your stand I respect that. But the Church will continue to speak its mind regarding social issues. Take it or leave it.

      • boypalaban

        because Lagman is corrupt, no to taxation, no to RH Bill!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

     NO to RH Bill! IN the Name of the Father of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Down with RH Bill!  Down with Protestants (meaning rebels) here and born against.  Alam nyo turo nila?  Lagi ako nakikinig. Walang kwenta. Lagi nakabuntot sa mga pari at obispo  at kahit ano basta Katoliko kontra sila. kahit umutot ka sabihin nila:  Uy bawal yan. Masama yan!”  Pag may nabasa kayong “Damaso,” “simbahan demonyo,” “pari ay hypocrites,” atbp  yan na ingat na kayo.

    • boypalaban

      kwartahan lang naman yan…mga bulaang pastor at mga burn against di ako masagot sa mga tanong ko…simple na nga lang di pa kaya…hirap sa mga feeling magagaling…hahahaha laging nasosoplak…

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Hahaha ka rin

      • Danny Bravo

        kung  talento  ka  ano  ba  yung  diyos  ?  anong  klase?  yun  ba  matter  o  ano  at  paano  ka  nabuo  oang  tao  ohayop  o  buhay  isulat  mo  nga  at  susubukan  natin  ang  pagiging  palaban  mo ?

  • kilabot

    rhbill is testing the waters. 
    the world agenda is to make the abnormal the new normal; 
    1) drugs; 
    2) same-sex marriage; 
    3) man-beast union; 
    4) prostitution; 
    5) pedophilia; 
    6) abortion; 

    the agenda is being pushed around the world; 
    some countries have already legalized one or more of the agenda items; 
    the push is intensifying; targeting world leaders and people of influence; 
    obama, clinton and carter have fallen; the whole usa may fall soon; 

    everything will be redefined; 
    $sodomy becomes love; bestialisex is affection; 
    a junkie is chic; a prostitute is enterprising; 
    adopting the agenda is equated to progress, prosperity and advancement; 

    the idea is to make the world one big orgy; all people thinking, behaving and acting alike; 
    one world order; 
    there will be no more right nor wrong; there is only normal perversion; 

    time to choose which side you are on; fence-sitting not recommended. 

    No to perversion! 
    No to rhbill.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Binaboy ang Philstar, ang P.D. I. naman ang kanilang binababoy!

    • boypalaban

      Philstar is the favorite newspaper of your idol GMArrovo…

  • Kronos2

    I vote YES!!!! to the RH Bill.  Poverty in  this country is to be addressed first over Church non programs for the poor.  All they do is just instill the fear of God and nothing more.  More proactivism is what is needed these days and pray for the Lord that what we’re doing is in the right direction.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       All they do?  Ikaw ano nagawa mo sa mahirap, sige nga, friendly debatre lang.

    • boypalaban

       ako di ako katoliko pero alam ko ginagawa ng catholic para sa mga mahihirap…

      punta ka na sa mga nasalanta ng bagyo…mamigay ka ng condom at contraceptives…kailangang kailangan na nila…mas gusto nila yan kesa sa bahay, pagkain, trabaho, gamot…

      o punta na…bilis!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    RH Bill is chemical-based mentality.   Pa-uso-uso.  Parang noon uso ang pesticides and chemical fertilizers.  Tapos nasira ang kalikasan at ang pangangatawan.  Ngayon dami masamang epekto sa tao at mundo.  Uso ngayon organic.  “Organic” approach, back to what is natural.  RH Bill baligtad.  Gusto artificial. Weather-weather nga talaga!

  • bisdakis

    We will also pray for the bishops to open their eyes! If you really love the poor, don’t ask payment for your services as what Christ did. Sell all your material wealth (friar lands, banks, business, schools, Pope John’s Gold Plated Throne, etc.) and give it to the poor as what Christ said in the Bible!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Ano naitulong mo sa mahirap?

      • bisdakis

        Just ask Jesus Christ!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Naks!

      • boypalaban

         di ka makasagot…
        wag mo nang ikahiya na condom ang pinamimigay mo imbes na pagkain…

    • boypalaban

      ipagdasal mo rin ang iyong adhikain na mabusog ng mga condom at contraceptives ang mga mamamatay na sa gutom…

      • Danny Bravo

        ang  sanhi  ng  paghina  ng  isang  bansa  ay  sa  dami  ng  nakatira  kaya  kailangang  bawasan  sa  pamamagitan  ng  condom   hindi  yung  pag-dami

      • jcRco

        hindi ang pagka dami ng TAO ang sanhi sa paghina sa isang bansa, kundi sa pagiging gahaman at ang pagiging sakim sa kapangyarihan ng mga pinuno. Good Governance ang pag-asa ng bayan hindi contraceptives.

      • jcRco

        hindi ang pagdami ng mga tao ang sanhi sa paghina ng bansa kundi sa pagiging gahaman at sakim sa kapangyarihan ng mga namumuno, good governance ang pag-asa hindi mga contraceptives.

    • blowcoldblowhot

      The bill as pro-poor is a misnomer. The RH bill is not for
      the poor. It will be the big pharmaceutical companies and politicians that will
      benefit the most from the RH bill. If the RH Bill proponents want to help the
      poor, they should give to the poor that P3.7 billion that they are intending
      for the RH by way of creating more jobs, facilitating more skills-training
      programs, and constructing more classrooms,”

      You would not give condoms and contraceptives to starving
      families. You have to give them food instead. The Philippines is poor not
      because of population, but because of corruption, errors of economic policies,
      and bad governance,

      What about the provision on the RH bill enabling unmarried
      men and women to benefit from taxpayer-funded contraceptives, the P3.7 billion
      measure seeks to provide to the public.
      Senators also recently approved provisions
      allowing minors to purchase contraceptives even without parental consent and
      giving the government the duty to ensure a safe and satisfying sex life for the
      people. What are they promoting here, values or promiscuity?

      • wawangpenoy

         “The Philippines is poor not because of population, but because of corruption, errors of economic policies, and bad governance..” I agree. but can you please enlighten me what do you propose to do with the population for the meantime that we have these corrupt politicians who come up with bad economic policies and gives us an everlasting worsening governance?

        BTW, for lack of better phrase, I said ‘for the meantime’ but you and I know there is no end in sight. Just look at the long queue of thieves wanting to be president. So, should we just keep on multiplying with the ever worsening kind of governance that is so deep-rooted in our nation?

        Please make sense. If in anyway boypalaban has already rubbed off on you even the slightest or minute trace of his character, don’t even bother explaining.

    • boypalaban

      PAKISAGOT:

      kung nandito ngayon si Hesus at kaharap niya ang taong nagugutom, ano ibibigay niya; CONDOM O PAGKAIN?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Palaban ka ah.

      • boypalaban

        ganon talaga…pangalan ko e…

        wala akong mabasang matinding argumento mga pro-RH kaya medyo nawawalan na ako ng gana maki-argumento…

        dati puro damaso,cbcp,vatican,plagiarism,pedophile lang ang alam na issue…

        di nila matanggap na inuuto lang sila ni Lagman at Brenda…at ni epal angas dynasty plagiarist Cayetano…. angas kasi yan lang ang bukod tanging triathlete na nag-angas at ginamit pa sa isyung RH Bill ang pagiging triathlete niya…hahahahha…pinagtatawanan na yan…

      • angtangamo

        Moypalaboy hehehe joke lang. I can see you are passionate about this RH issue but you have to broaden your mind because the RH bill is just not about free condoms and contraceptives, it is much more than that. It is about education, choices, freedom, knowledge, health and a lot more. The condoms and contraceptives are just a
        small part of it. Peace :)

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Makisingit.  Eh bakit di alisin ang tungkol sa free condoms at contraceptives para tapos ang usapan.

      • angtangamo

        Because the condoms & contraceptives are an integral part of the bill. I am not sure how much of the RH budget will be set aside for contraceptives but I highly doubt it will be more than 25%

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Check the budget. Compare with the recent findings about our ranking in corruption. Good luck.

      • angtangamo

        Yes we dont fare very well with the corruption index I am aware of that. I am also aware that the budget for the RH can become another source of corruption (TBH it probably will) your concern is valid BUT they belong in another debate. I will take it in good faith (for now) that the RH budget will be used for its intended purpose.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Good luck to your pure expectations. But the politician’s history and corrupt system gives you more than an inkling or stale hypothesis.

      • angtangamo

        Like I said I’ll take it in good faith that the funds will be spent properly. If corruption is your concern then that is not the fault of the RH Bill. What you should do is protest and block the passing of next years 2.006 trillion budget so that way there is no money to be stolen :)

      • ever green

        wala. 
        Hindi kasi siya gumagamit ng condom kaya wala siya nun.
        Hindi rin siya magbibigay ng pagkain kasi wala rin siya nun. Nakikikain din lang siya. Tsaka sasabihin niya…men shall not live by bread alone but by…blah blah blah……..

      • regd

        LOL! Smart answer!

      • boypalaban

        pwede kaya multiplication of the condoms?

        kung ganyan…maniniwala ako na may matinding argumento mga proRH…

      • Danny Bravo

        hindi  naman  kayo  kikilalanin  ni  hesus dahil  hindi  naman  kayo  kristiyano  ang  kristiyano  ,,hesus  lang  ang  kinikilala,,,,  walang  maria  walang  mohamad      ang  gusto  naman  ninyo  pati  anti  cristo  kasama  din  sa  grasya    napakaswerte  nama  ninyo  hindi  ito  pulitika  na  kahit  hindi  mo  siya  ibinoto  kasama  ka  din  sa  grasya,,,,  hindi  ito  nakikita  o  na-di-detect  ng  anumang  instrumento  makikita  lang  ito  kung  pupunta  sa  nebula,,,,may  design,,,,,o  kailangang  mag-aral  ka  ng  science  para  maunawaan  mo

      • boypalaban

         sino kausap mo bulaang pastor?…

        sigurado ka bang katoliko ako? o para malaman mo hindi ako katoliko…

        ako sigurado ako na bulaang pastor ka…at uto uto ka ni lagman…

      • niap kcen

        ang katanungan mo ay hypothetical – at iisa ang kasagutan. nguni’t hindi yan ang tinatanong ni Hesus no’ng Kanyang panahon. sa juan 6:26, sinabi Niya na may mga taong sumusunod sa kanya “dahil lang sa pagkain”, at hindi dahil sa tunay na mensahe ng pagkatao at layunin Niya bilang Tagapagligtas – na mas mahalaga kaysa pagkain lang.

        hindi maikukumpara ang pagkain at condom. ang pagkain ay isang pangangailangan ng katawan para mabuhay. alam naman natin na ang condom ay hindi gayon. hindi ‘comparable’ ang 2 yan. mas mainam siguro kung ang tanong ay: kapaki-pakinabang ba ang maibibigay ng RH bill sa pangkalahatan, lalo na ang kababaihan? o pananatiliin na lang natin na lalo pang dumami ang namamatay at nagugutom na mga kababayan natin dahil wala silang opsyon upang mamulat sa katotohanan na sila ay may karapatan?

        nandito ako sa lugar na nakapaligid ang mga slum areas sa tondo. at sa tagal na panahon, mas dumarami ang nanlilimos at lumiliit ang tulong na naibibigay ng mga mamamayan na nagnanais tumulong sa kanila. mahigit na 50 taon ako nandito at maraming nagtayuan na mga gusali ng simbahan at iskuwelahan din nila, subali’t ni minsan, hindi ko sila nakitang nagdistribute ng pagkain o anumang tulong na ubra nilang iabot. hindi ako humahatol, subali’t nakikita ko ang pagpapaimbabaw ng simbahan sa bagay na ito ng kahirapan. (wag ko lang banggitin ang 20B piso na pera nila sa bpi).

      • boypalaban

         tumira din ako diyan sa gagalangin at balut…at alam ko ang ginagawa ng parokya ng san rafael at ng st joseph parish para sa mga out reach programs nila…di nga pala ako katoliko…

        bakit condom at pagkain ang ginamit kong halimbawa?

        dahil ano ba ang mas priority: Condom o pagkain….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        ANG BIBIGAY NI HESUS PAG KAIN MATALINO YUN DI KATULAD NG BISHOPS BOBO AT SASABIHAN ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP MANIWALA KAYO SA MEDICAL SCIENCE KUNG WALA AKO D2 PARAAN YAN PARA  PANGALAGAAN NINYO PINARARAMI NINYO MAG IINGAT KAYO SA MGA OBISPO LAGI NAKA PUTI ILULUBOG KAYO NIYAN SA DUSA AT KAHIRAPAN’

  • Janch

    Matapos na sana ngayong araw.  After ten years in congress. 

    Then concentrate on the FOI bill.

    • boypalaban

       bakit di yang FOI ang unahin…nang maharang ang posibleng pangungurakot ng bilyon bilyong pondo para sa condom at contraceptives?

      • Janch

        Hindi pa naka-ten years in congress. LOL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Gising na pala si boycondom este boypalaban.. Punta ka na sa kongreso boy at magdala ng condom este miryenda pala sa mga kasamahan mo duon..

        Mamyang gabi boy, ang pag-uusapan naman natin ay sa senado naman dahil tapos na ang boxing sa House at KO ang anti-RH mo.. hehehe

      • boypalaban

        kausapin mo si lagman…tanong mo kung may makukuha ka nang parte sa ninakaw niya mula sa tax namin…

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Sana may Bill din na  i-limit ang asawa ng mga Muslim sa isa lang dahil marami sa kanila mahirap din.  Tapos sagutan tayo dito pero bibili muna ako ng bullet-proof vest.

  • Janch

    I hate those pop up and drop down ads.  Ang gulo.

    • angtangamo

       Oo nga. At yang autoplay video advertisement on the side is eating up my bandwidth!! how do I turn it off? :)

      • Janch

        Walang nag-autoplay na ads sa akin.  Firefox ang browser ko.  Maybe ina-allow ng browser mo.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Try mo Options > Contents > Check: Block pop-up windows

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    12-12-12 will be a momentous milestone in PHL history! The day rationality prevails over bigotry!

    PASS THE RH BILL and put an end to RC church’s meddling in our social, economic and political lives!

    • boypalaban

      ….stop RC meddling and let Lagman and Brendamage, the defenders of fake and corrupt president and thief justice meddle in your personal lives!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Shame to the huthuterong at lintang mga Pastor ni Pacman!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Lipat ka sa kabilang thread, anduon yung tungkol sa boxing ni Pacman.. hehehe

  • Albert Einstien

    RP s targeted for DEPOPULATION & POPULATION control…!their MAIN REASON :targeted populated countries may easily become threats to world peaceThe list of recommendations made in the Conference of the Milbank Memorial Fund include:”It is important that specific and widespread propaganda be directed to developing an interest in the health and welfare of children rather than in large families for their own sake. Such education would also involve propaganda in favor of controlled fertility as an integral part of a public health program. It is important to develop a native leadership( PRO -RH politicians, academecian & media personalities ) that will acquire new values rapidly and serve as a medium for their diffusion. To this end native political leaders, civil servants, and native middle classes are needed.”” we are targeted for depopulation & population control….DONT KILL our UNBORN LEADERS “RH POLITICIANS are TRAITORS, BRAINLESS, NO VISION at alll….their selfish impaired vision is how to get elected …NOT how the COUNTRY will BECOME GREAT… that is why ..we are still what we are …world slaves .. that is what they want you to believed ..to become a SLAVE forever…….our present & past generation are SLAVES but we have a GREAT CHANCE that ..succeeding generations WILL be MASTERS of the WORLD……we have so much riches…more than enough EVEN to FEED the WORLD……all we have to do is to MULTIPLY , become a strong nation with huge army & population…& preserve the resources for the near future……what we ONLY need are VISIONARY patriotic filipino blood LEADERS…!TRAITORS please read this…MOST countries are desperate to PRESERVE their GENES..you want to depopulate us.. while the WORLD is desperate for POPULATION increase…RUSSIA : declared that women choosing to have a second child would receive 250,000 rubles, nearly $11,000.CHINA : The China Development Research Foundation (CDRF) — a think tank affiliated with the Chinese government — has recommended that China gradually phase in a two-child policy over the next three years, and then cease all birth limits in the year 2020, according to a China Daily report.SINGAPORE : Desperate in trying to increase population.. Singapore’s ‘baby bonus’ packages which included financial incentives to encourage couples to have two or more children. Parents were given a tax relief for having a third child. However, by the 1990s there was only a 1.6% growth in population which was still not high enough. To try to encourage couples to have children, married couples who had children before the age of 28 were offered a 7000 pounds tax break. Several additional measures included government-sponsored matchmaking efforts through a Social Development Unit. Its aim was to ‘romance Singapore’. A month-long festival in the Valentine’s period was introduced to try to bring people together.ITALY: The Italian government offers a one-time payment of 1,000 euros (£685) to couples who have a second child.Late last year a proposal that mooted paying women not to have abortions gained popular support in Parliament. SPAIN: the government introduced a national family policy but there is still a belief that family creation is a private matter. However, Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has been urging companies to set up child care facilities and promoting long-term employment over short-term contracts.Fully funded maternity leave can last for 16 weeks, and unpaid leave of three years is available, but only about one-third of Spanish mothers take up maternity benefits. FRANCE : It has some of the most extensive state-funded child care in Europe. Mothers can take 16 weeks paid maternity leave for the first child, rising to 26 weeks for the third child. There is also a total of 26 months parental leave.Last year, the government pledged more money for families with three children in an effort to encourage working women to have more babies. Child care facilities are subsidised by the government. Younger children are entitled to full-day childcare (crèches). For children aged two to three there are pre-school programmes for which families pay on a sliding scale.POLAND: The Polish parliament has passed legislation to pay women for each new child they have, in an effort to boost the country’s falling population.Under the scheme every woman will receive a one-off payment of 1,000 zlotys (258 euros; £177) – for each child she has. Women from poorer families will receive double that amount. The population has actually decreased by close to half a million in the last six years. But some women’s groups say payments are a quick fix and will not address the long-term trendGERMANY: Germany has long had one of the lowest birth rates in the European Union and one of the highest proportions of childless women. According to EU statistics from 2005, 30% of German women have not had children. Demographers say Germany’s problem has probably been made worse because it has been ignored for so longThe government offers 14 weeks maternity leave plus parental leave of up to 36 months, with the level of pay depending on a number of factors. One of the biggest problems is a real lack of child care places. According to government figures, only one in five children under three get a place in day care. Not only do they close at lunch time, but the fees are incredibly high. Another problem for working parents is that traditionally, the school day ends at 1pm.The government has now lifted the birth rate to the top of the political agenda. In January, it adopted a bill to give tax breaks to families. It has also floated the idea of eliminating fees for kindergarten.UK : New mothers currently get six months’ paid leave and the option of six months further unpaid leave. The first six weeks are at 90% of pay and the next 20 at £102.80 per week. New fathers are allowed two weeks’ paid leave at a maximum £102.80 a week. The government offers free early education places. Children from the age of four get free part-time places at nurseries – some three year olds also get places.Parents of children under the age of six have the right to ask their employers for more flexible working hours.SWEDEN & NORWAY : Nordic governments employ a range of policies designed to help couples have more children. These governments have a long history of social policies aimed at helping people balance their work and family life. This is part of what is known as the “Nordic model”.In Sweden, each parent is entitled to 18 months leave, which is paid for by the government. Public day care is heavily subsidised and flexible work schedules are common – women with children of pre-school age are entitled to reduce their working hours. Women’s participation in the work force is high. In Norway, mothers are entitled to 12 months off work with 80% pay or 10 months with full pay. Fathers are entitled to take almost all of that leave instead of the mother. Fathers must take at least four weeks leave or else those weeks will be lost for both parents. The leave is financed through taxes, so employers don’t lose out.JAPAN:lack-babies-could-mean-extinction of -japanese -people “Japan will be more likely to prioritize healthcare than international security,” Brad Glosserman and Tomoko Tsunada wrote in Foreign Policy Magazine. “Older societies are typically more risk-averse, and Japanese — ‘reluctant realists’ at the best of times — will be increasingly unwilling to put their most precious resource, their young, in harm’s way,” ( thanks to various contributors figures lifted & culled from different sources )

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      The mentally bankcrupt leadership could not create more production, so they want to just reduce the consumption to look good.  Pogi economic points!

  • batangsulpok

    Sa Pilipinas lang naman masyadong nakikialam ang simbahang katoliko dahil dito sa U.S., di puwede ang ginagawa nila dahil kung  hindi, tatanggalan sila ng TAX EXEMPTION.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       At dito sa US di minumura ang kahit anong relihiyon at kahit mahirap ka may respeto sa yo.

      • tamumd

        Di minumura..really? I dunno what news you’re reading .Just go to news article pertaining catholics and religion in general….and you will see that no one respects these hypocrites anymore.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         I respect the catholics.  I know some atheists who respect the catholics for standing firm against RH bill. 

        Those are points against your argument.

        Such a stup!d assumption.  Pro-RH people need to grow some brain.

      • tamumd

        Huh? lol….I dunno what kinda air you’re breathing. Atheists respects catholics? Really? More so atheist against RH? Really…really? lol Yeah coz atheists believe that contraceptives are forbidden by their god..called the Spaghetti MOnster. Don’t be ridiculous.

        And how are those points against me…even if some atheists “respect” catholics in your dreams?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Respect does not mean agree. lol

      • tamumd

        Believe me..atheists definitely do not have a shred of respect for your church and its idiotic dogmas.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         And who respect the atheists?

      • tamumd

        Lots of people.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Hahaha. Di mo nabasa lately admitted nila sa research na ostracised sila all over the world. I respect atheists personally but don’t expect me to respect your disrespect.

      • tamumd

        In the Scandinavian countries where pretty much most of the citizen are atheist..of course everyone is respected. Those people are the most content and happiest people on earth, with top rate economy, excellent free health and social services.

        In religious countries like the Philippines and muslim fundamentalist states…of course that is a different story.

        In the US it is one of the fastest growing group. In fact 93% of the members of the world-renown National Academy of Sciences are atheists. These are respected scientists in their fields.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         Suddenly, you became a speaker of ALL atheists in the Philippines.  You are deluded. 

        Do not indoctrinate me on atheists and atheism.  I know how they think.  I have encountered many of them in forum and in real life.  Hence, I know you’re lying.

        Besides, I did not mean that atheists respect the church in a whole.  I am speaking of only one aspect which was the firm stand of the church against RH bill.

        Reading comprehension problem?

      • tamumd

        You are the one with comprehension problem. Never did I say I speak for ALL atheists in the Philippines.

        Again..in your imagination I was indoctrinating you about atheist. Show where did I do that. Or else you’re a liar just like the rest of the catholic ilk.

        Hahahahaha and now you are tyring hard to clarify yourself yet you’re accusing me of having comprehension problem. tsk tsk. Suddenly it’s my problem. lol

      • taga_ilog

        being an atheist myself, I have yet to find, in any blogspot in the whole web, where an atheist here or anywhere else, that respects the church or any of atheist supporting the rh, well, religious people always say that liars go to hell

      • boypalaban

        dogmas…andaming aso pala niyan….
        ingat ka…baka yang etits mo mapagkamalang condom…hahahaha

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         See?  You’re obviously living in a cave.  Search google with keyphrase “NO TO RH” and then you will see some blogposts against RH, some of them coming from self proclaimed atheists.  Some atheists in other forums are also against RH bill.

        They are against it because of legal, economic and social reasons. 

        Oh my, these pro-RH people really need to grow some brain.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Taga saan ka?  Bigotry and racism is a crime dito sa aming mga Kano!    :D

      • tamumd

        Funny how you now invoke bigotry. YOur bishops and priests and church in general are one the most bigoted groups of people on this earth. Some of you people blew up abortion clinics…and killed doctors who did abortions. In fact this group is under the watch of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

        But lots of people don’t have respect for your church anymore that it becomes a laughingstock every time there’s an article about it in the US and even in Europe.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Then you accuse the Church? Pag addict ang relatives mo sira-ulo ka rin? Logical! Respect and follow are diff. Ano naman ang relihiyon na sinusunod na modelo?

      • tamumd

        You bet I accuse your church. Which one you didn’t understand and that’s the truth. Addict? maybe you are and the rest of you family. Or you’re so “addicted ” to you church you couldn’t see beyond its clutches on you.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         You are the best proof of bigotry. You accuse.  Where is your proof na simbahan ang nag-utos? I accuse you too addict kayo lahat at sumisiping sa aso. Fair? Ikaw saan ka addict sa safe and satisfying?

      • tamumd

        Don’t be funny. Your church has a long history of bigotry. They’ve justified killing thousands of people who went against their belief. They’ve justified slavery for a long time. They are still looking at women as “second class’ members of the church. Sorry…no priestly calling for you women. They pretend to be concerned about gays and lesbians…but they condemn their lifestyles as evil. They demonize people who uses contraceptions…and in places where there are abortions…they blow up clinics and kill doctors that perform them.
        Your church might not be directly involved in giving the go signals for this crime..but the fact that it demonizes people that subscribe to this practices…  and in turn some crazy follower carries out this evil ideas is enough to indict your church to these heinous crimes.

      • boypalaban

         may issue ka sa katoliko…baka gusto mo magpa-heal sa mga pastor na nangangwarta?

      • boypalaban

         laki ng galit mo talaga ah…di ka pa nakaka-move on?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       SA US may freedom of speech ano man ang relihiyon mo.

      • tamumd

        And we don’t in the Philippines?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         They like to seal the lips of the church. Read on.

      • tamumd

        I wish we could…but they are as loud as the thunder..even if they are not paying a centavo of income taxes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    Separation of church and state does not mean that members of the church cannot express their opinion on matters that involve morality and the welfare of the people.  Those who parrot the same line of thinking of non-thinking mob are idi0ts.  Ask any qualified lawyer so that you learn a thing or two about political science and constitution.  Even Miriam Defensor-Santiago chooses her words carefully.  She merely said “bordering”.  In other words, the church is not meddling and the church is not running this country.

    • tamumd

      But they are more than expressing their opinions. They are issuing threats of excommunication to the President. Of voting out policiticians in the coming elections if they don’t vote against the RH bill. Of sending small figurines or crucifix to the congressmen to sway their votes for the RH. They were calling for public disobedience if they say this bill gets passed. They are dictating the congress how to go about the voting for the RH bill. Some of them were even tapping the government coffers to pay for their SUVs in cahoot with the corrupt president. Those threats/actions are definitely beyond the confines of just expressing opinions..they are call to undermine the democratic process. They are call for public disturbance.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

        Their threats would not harm the president nor the congressmen.  What’s there to fear if you don’t follow the teachings of the church?  Surely, you do not believe of catholic vote, do you?  Those are harmless threats.

        Public disobedience?  When and how did the church advise the public to do just that?

        Trying to repress and suppress the church is in itself undermining the democratic process. 

         

      • tamumd

        Harmless or not…..they are threats nonetheless! That’s crossing beyond just expressing opinions. In big cities catholic votes might just be a wishful thinking. But that doesn’t hold true in little towns…where the priests have major influence on people’s opinions. That is why those representatives are reluctant to show up there in the halls of congress to vote for the bill or else suffer the ire of the local bishops and priests.

        How did  the church advise public disobedience..google Cardinal Vidal. this idiotic little old man is fond of making those kinda threats. Again no one is suppressing your church to express their opinions.But undermining the actual legislative process is a different story. It’s over stepping bounds. And it has to stop.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

        Threats are just normal.  This is how democracy works.  Congress threatens the SC, the president threatens the SC, the president threatens the congress, the senate threatens the congress, the people threaten the congressmen, the people threaten the senate, the people threaten the supreme court, the president threatens the people… etc etc etc.

        Those are normal.  If the congress would like to pass a bill that is against my belief (i.e. prostitution, abortion, RH, divorce, etc), then I would also threaten those who passed them into law that I will not vote for them.

        This is democracy working. 

        Not unless the church has shotguns that they can force the state to bow down to them.  Jusmiyo.

      • tamumd

        In your own world threats are normal. Only loud mouth, unethical people use threat to forcibly always get their way. Whatever threats you’re talking about between and among branches of government. Well they are all part of the government..the state. The church is not part of the secular state.

        Your kinda threat if you don’t agree to certain legislation…do not carry the same weight as some figure head like a bishop or a cardinal. If you’re threat materialized maybe only you vote and those of your family would change..not the whole town or province or whole region. So it’s very different.

        I’m sure if we still live in the Renaissance period…those bishops would have consigned us to our fiery deaths already. Thanks goodness..they’re toothless now.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QTJMSYLUMOYTKDWNY2JC2EFQPQ URDUJA

        reminds me when they ban the books of copernicus and galileo coz they publish that the earth revolved around the sun… ‘-)

      • tamumd

        They did more than that. They instituted what was called Index Librorum Prohibitorum ( Index of Prohibited Books) and systematically banned books that did not satisfy their liking from the 1500s to 1966 when they could not catch up with the number of books being published day in and day out. You could just imagine how it slowed dissimination of information and stunted the growth of such discipline as science. If fact books on anatomy and dissection were banned coz they consider them as works of the devil.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QTJMSYLUMOYTKDWNY2JC2EFQPQ URDUJA

         oh..that i didn’t know… you must be a person so interested in the studies of religion and history.. keep up.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        BISHOPS THREATEN GLORIA IF YOU DONT GIVE PAJERO PUPUNTA KAMI NG EDSA MAG RALLY”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    If you re not with Me, you are against Me.

    EXCOMMUNICATE all Catholics supporting the RH Bill!

    The time has come to cleanse the RCC!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      If that will be the case, you might find yourself standing alone, with some priests and bishops, and yes, Rep. Rodriguez… hehehe..
       

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Not really.  Dalawa na kami. At buti nga para alam namin kung sino ang kaibigan namin.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

        kung kayo-kayo na lang, paano na lang yan, kaya nyo bang buhayin ang lahat ng bishops/priests dito sa pilipinas?

      • boypalaban

         patay na ba para buhayin?

    • Jomex

      you dont have to EXCO, they are leaving already.

    • Crysis_III

      Uie HERETICS pala tayo… Susunugin nyo ba kami? 

      • boypalaban

        sa akin na lang kayo sumama…di ako katoliko….

        anyway…baka gusto mo ng pagkakakitaan…mag-pastor ka…titiba ka…grabe…

    • brunogiordano

      Dare! Hindi kayang gawin ‘ng CBCP.

      Dahil

      Hindi na kailangan umalis ng mga katoliko sa kanilang simbahan.

      Majority sa kanila ngayon ay mga Progressive/Liberal Catholics na at gumamit na ng contraceptives at condoms at payag sila sa legal abortion.

      Alam nila na marami sa moral na ipinapasunod ng Vatican ay obsolete at passé tulad ng sinabi ni Cardinal Martini.

      Ilan panahon na lang ang Vatican ay susunod sa moral na ankop sa atin panahon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    I’d rather that the cafeteria catholics renounce their religion.  This was the call of the bishops anyway.  In this manner, everyone should come out clean.  Do not profess as catholics if you undermine the teachings of the catholic church.

    This RH bill is a moral issue which undermine the core of teachings of the catholic church.  Those catholics who abhor the church for doings its job are deluded.

    • tamumd

      Don’t worry..done that long time ago!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         Sure, convince other cafeteria catholics too. 

        Cultural christians are such eyesore.

      • tamumd

        I don’t have to convince people. They just do them in their own volition.

    • brunogiordano

      Hindi na kailangan umalis ng mga katoliko sa kanilang simbahan.

      Majority sa kanila ngayon ay mga Progressive/Liberal Catholics na at gumamit na ng contraceptives at condoms at payag sila sa legal abortion.

      Alam nila na marami sa moral na ipinapasunod ng Vatican ay obsolete at passé tulad ng sinabi ni Cardinal Martini.

      Ilan panahon na lang ang Vatican ay susunod sa moral na ankop sa atin panahon.

      • boypalaban

         nagbabago pala ang moralidad…
        ang pakikiapid pala sa asawa ng iba ay pwede na ngayon…
        ang pakikiapid pala sa hayop ay pwede na rin…

  • jcRco

    hindi sa dami ng TAO ang sanhi ng pagka hina ng isang bansa, kundi sa dami ng mga taong uma-abuso sa kanilang kapangyarihan, at pagiging gahaman. ang good governance ang pag-asa para mapa unlad ang bansa hindi sa pamamagitan ng contraceptives. 

    • boypalaban

       tumbok mo kapatid…
      akala ng iba dito contraceptives lang ok na….tsk tsk…

      • jcRco

        Hindi ang RH Bill ang kasagutan para mapa-unlad ang Bayan. ang motibo lng ba nito ay para controlin ang populasyon ng pilipinas? well ang kilangan lng natin ay to be RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS and to have a GOOD GOVERNANCE, hindi na kilangan ng kahit anong Bill kung tayo rin lng naman ay mga responsable at maging MASIPAG, isa pa, marami na ang gumagamit ngayon ng ibat’-ibang contraceptives kahit na wala yang bill nayan, dios ko kahit nga siguro bata ngayon alam na kung ano ang mga condoms etc. ano pa kaya kung ma-ipasa yan? magiging isa na sa mga dapat pag-aralan ng mga estudyante on how to use contraceptives? dapat tayong mga pilipino we know how to stand in our own, hindi yung maki gaya tayo sa ibang bansa na mga liberated na, pagtatawanan na ang mga virgin,, well dito we must be proud of it. Kilangan lng natin ay maging MASIPAG, DISIPLINA, at RESPONSABLE yan lng ang kilangan natin to have a GOOD NATION. ipagsigawan natin sa MUNDO na tayong mga PILIPINO ay di kilangan ng kahit anong batas para lng tayo au uunlad. ang laki kayang budget nyan, kung yang pera na yan ay gagamitin nlng sa pagpapatayo ng mga silid-aralan, etc. ang daming paraan para tayo ay uunlad. Gamitin natin ang pera para sa ika uunlad ng bayan hindi sa sariling panganga-ilangan.

      • jcRco

        sabi nila ” We should pass the RH Bill in order to Lessen the poor” well sagot ko nyan , ang kahirapan ay normal na sa isang bayan, ang pagiging marami sa isang pamilya ay hindi mali, ang mali ay kung ang lahat ay walang trabaho.! at umaasa sa kung sino ang meron…… dapat ang pag tu-unan ng pansin kung papa-ano magka trabaho ang isang mahirap. Hindi sa pag control ng populasyon, we are bless nga if we are many.

  • Jomex

    Catholics should leave their church and be free from religion! be a secular humanist and not a slave of religion anymore!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       And be a slave of secular humanism.  Which one? Socialism? Animalism? Spiritualism? Condomism?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

        Materialism.  They believe that they don’t have souls and that they are JUST A bunch of molecules responding to stimulus.  Hahaha.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Gusto ko yan “stimulus.”  Yan talaga ang zero point ng RH. Safe and satisfying.

    • brunogiordano

      “Catholics should leave their church and be free from religion! be a secular humanist and not a slave of religion anymore!”

      Hindi na kailangan umalis ng mga katoliko sa kanilang simbahan.

      Majority sa kanila ngayon ay mga Progressive/Liberal Catholics na at gumamit na ng contraceptives at condoms at payag sila sa legal abortion.

      Alam nila na marami sa moral na ipinapasunod ng Vatican ay obsolete at passé tulad ng sinabi ni Cardinal Martini.

      Ilan panahon na lang ang Vatican ay susunod sa moral na ankop sa atin panahon.

    • boypalaban

       noon mo pa di maipaliwanag ang secular humanist mo na yan…tulog ka na…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    RH bill, moral issue aside, is a myopic bill.  That’s why some economists are against it.

    RH bill is a myopic bill, a band-aid solution, which does not answer the issue of poverty (they claim that it is for the benefit of the poor) and corruption (which is the mother of all evils).  Band-aid solution is a misnomer in this case since it is not really a solution to our problem.

    RH bill is a myopic bill for it does not take into account that we are a labor intensive economy.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for our population growth rate and total fertility rate are both decreasing the past years without RH.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for the UP professors proclaim that this is not a population control measure (they are pro-RH).  However, some pro-RH are liars that they proclaim to the world that the RH will curb the population growth.  If it is not a population control measure, how could it bring down the population growth?  Some of them are liars.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for the poor does not need condom and contraceptives to live.  They are not essential medicines.  How could a condom and contraceptives bring about better lives to people? 

    RH bill is a liar’s bill.  Poverty will not be alleviated if corruption is still rampant in this country.  The 14B budget would only go to waste if corruption would not be resolved.

    • brunogiordano

      “RH bill is a liar’s bill for the poor does not need condom and contraceptives to live. They are not essential medicines. How could a condom and contraceptives bring about better lives to people? ”

      Obvious na isa sa ilang na-indoctrinate ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP.

      Majority ng mga Pilipino kahit na katoliko ay kumbinsido sa kabutihan idudulot nito sa atin bayan Pilipinas.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         Argumentum ad popullum.

        NEXT

  • Winston Sabido

    just wondering – there are thousands of people in Mindanao affected by super typhoon Pablo and instead of calling for help for these people, the Archbishop seems to be more interested in asking for support against the RH bill. is there something I’m not getting here?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

       Yes there is.  You forgot to read the past news stories wherein the bishops asked its members to unite to help those who have supported.  They have started their networks to work for helping those victims.

      You forgot also to take note that there are institutions in the church who help those victims silently, which do not bother to pronounce so in the whole world.  They are doing it, and people are seeing it.

      Bottomline, you missed a lot.

    • boypalaban

       di mo pa natatanggap yung mga condom na ipapamahagi daw ng mga proRH sa mga nasalanta ng bagyo….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    Though I am anti-RH, I believe that this RH bill will pass in congress.  I think they got the numbers.  Some sway votes would be in favor of the pro-RH, especially after the president silently and vigilantly worked for the passage of this bill.

    • brunogiordano

      Very realistic assessment.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         Well, we have to realistic.  Gaganti na lang ako sa eleksyon.  Hahaha.

      • antiscam

        In your desire to avenge the defeat of RH Bill you will vote for politicians who are against RH Bill but sadly also happens to be more corrupt and greedier than those who voted for RH Bill. That’s the story of revenge. You also end up burying yourself along with the object of your revenge.

    • tamumd

      Finally someone come to his senses!

    • boypalaban

      …pera lang naman kasi talaga ang katapat niyan sa mga tongresistang walang prinsipyo…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    GO RH!!!

    The Majority wants it passed!!!

    • boypalaban

       medyo iba na post mo steven zahl…

      balik mo ulit yung dati….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4C2SFYIH52Y2KR7QPZPHJO2XQQ sl1

    The power of prayers is the way to go, if God really does not want this to be approved then divine intervention will come but if approve then we know that it is destine to be!

  • Crysis_III

    Pass it now baby… GO RH BILL…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    The senate wants the people to have satisfying sex.

    Well, we have to have a law that would teach men and women how to satisfy their partner in sex.  Let us include the teens and the children so they would learn the rope early.

    Then we should have a law penalizing every man and woman who would fail to give their partner satisfying sex.  Haha.

    Such a m0r0nic ideal of a law.

    • angtangamo

      So you think pag na pass ang RH Bill open season na for sex sa Pinas? Mag oorgy na ang buong Pilipinas? Yun ba ang nasa isip mo? RH Bill is all about sex? Bwahahaha.
      Maybe you should crawl back to your cave.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

         You’re assuming too many things.

        Go back to your cave and learn a thing or two about sarcasm.

      • angtangamo

        I know a lot about sarcasm. You want to teach children about how to give their future partners sexual satisfaction?? What kind of a sick pederast are you?

    • brunogiordano

      “The senate wants the people to have satisfying sex.”

      Tama!!!!

      Ang mga magkatalik na hindi nagkakaroon satisfying sex ay malamang na isa sa dalawa o pareho ay may sexual dysfunction.

      Pangkaraniwan dahilan nito ay ang maling indoctrination ng mga religion sa kanila members.

      Ito ay dapat maiwasto ng maging buo ang iyong dito sa mundo.

  • mangtom

    These CBCP cone heads are in a prayer frenzy. They pray to Guadalupe, Calungsod, St. Mary and Paul, Dick and Harry. This won’t any good nor will it do any bad. But if this prayer vigil gets busted, I hope that they will follow Manny’s example in defeat. Manny Pacquiao is not a sore loser. He did not blame this rosary or wooden idols for his loss to Marquez. He showed class by admitting defeat without excuses. 

    Hopefully, the cone heads will not say, if they lose, that they did not pray hard enough. We all know that they are recruiting their followers to pray to every one except God. I am not saying that they should do what I do, which I pray directly to my God, and not through mediators, namely saints. I respect their right to pray to anyone.

    Again, as I said earlier, let us accept gracefully whatever the outcome of the vote in both Lower House and Senate. Walang pikun. Walang sisihan. I am ready to accept defeat if that will be the outcome. And let us move on.

    Game ba kayo, anti-RH folks? Sport lang, ha? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

       Ok lang kung matalo ang anti-RH.  May mga legal remedies pa like bringing it up to SC to question the constitutionality of this RH.

      At may eleksyon pa.  Kahit kaunti lang kami sa numero, maipakita lang namin ang aming disgusto sa mga senador at kongressman.   Hahaha…

      • brunogiordano

        “Kahit kaunti lang kami sa numero,”

        Very good!!!!!

        Aminado ka na ka kaunti kayo.

        Gayon pa man, nirerespeto namin ang inyong mga opinion.

    • brunogiordano

      Inborn ugali ng mga religious fanatics na Pikon.

      Ngayon pa lang alam mo na kung sino ang mga fanatico na napipikon sa kanilang halang na mga sagot.

      • boypalaban

        ang pikon ay yung mga proRh na kung ano ano ang itinatawag sa kalaban nila sa argumento…

        kung nagbabasa ka…dami nang tinawag sa akin dito…iba iba…pikon na kasi mga proRH sa akin…di kasi ako makumbinsi sa mga mabababaw na argumento…

    • tamumd

      Hahahahahaha

    • boypalaban

       Game…sport lang!

      Basta kapag naipasa yan…pangatawanan ng mga proRH dito na sasama sila sa rally ng mga bading na namimigay ng condom…at pupunta kayo sa evacuation centers para mamigay ng condom at contraceptives lalo na sa mga maysakit at mamamatay na sa gutom…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    RH bill, moral issue aside, is a myopic bill.  That’s why some economists are against it.

    RH bill is a myopic bill, a band-aid solution, which does not answer
    the issue of poverty (they claim that it is for the benefit of the poor)
    and corruption (which is the mother of all evils).  Band-aid solution
    is a misnomer in this case since it is not really a solution to our
    problem.

    RH bill is a myopic bill for it does not take into account that we are a labor intensive economy.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for our population growth rate and total fertility rate are both decreasing the past years without RH.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for the UP professors proclaim that this is
    not a population control measure (they are pro-RH).  However, some
    pro-RH are liars that they proclaim to the world that the RH will curb
    the population growth.  If it is not a population control measure, how
    could it bring down the population growth?  Some of them are liars.

    RH bill is a liar’s bill for the poor does not need condom and
    contraceptives to live.  They are not essential medicines.  How could a
    condom and contraceptives bring about better lives to people? 

    RH bill is a liar’s bill.  Poverty will not be alleviated if
    corruption is still rampant in this country.  The 14B budget would only
    go to waste if corruption would not be resolved.
     

    • angtangamo

       The RH Bill is not a silver bullet. Duh. It’s one of many policies needed for sustainable growth and it is not designed to solve or reduce corruption. You are barking up the wrong tree.

      “The 14B budget would only go to waste if corruption would not be resolved”

      So what did you mean by the above sentence? If the budget for the RH is spent for it’s intended purpose then the RH bill is not a waste, meaning the RH bill is good or effective? Way to contradict yourself.

    • jinx

       RH bill is a myopic bill? And what has your “far-reaching” strategies done after so many years?  Just more mouths to feed, more street children, more beggars, more illegal settlers and more crooks.  We have proven time and again that dole-outs don’t work….look at FVR’s Mang Pandoy and GMA’s paper boat children. Did this propaganda work? Mang Pandoy, after being given a business to start with, money, and job, still ended up a pauper and accumulated only more children.  Our traditional politicians love to parrot “paradise” to the public, love to show their “effective” solutions to poverty.  But they are all designed to perpetuate more ignorant voters to perpetuate their power in the government.  The RH bill is a threat to these trapos and clergy alike because it empowers the poor themselves, not those greedy for power.

      • boypalaban

        “The RH bill is a threat to these trapos and clergy alike because it empowers the poor themselves, not those greedy for power.”….

        hahahaha….diyan nga sila kukuha ng kukurakutin e…

      • jinx

        Were you born yesterday? Your corrupt officials especially GMA had plundered the national coffers for many many years. And you would think they will all gather and grab the spoils for RH bill– a pittance budget compared to the money GMA allies have squandered in her nine years of power.  The irony of it is—-Gloria doesn’t vote for the RH bill for the same reason as yours!

      • boypalaban

        i dont care whatever the reason of your beloved fake president regarding RH Bill…

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Inquirer could have been a better place to dwell and exchange opinions without the bigots and maggots in the form of Born-Against who are bastos.  Kahit otot ng katoliko against sila.

  • $31552910

    The RH bill is racist, unnecessary, and waste of taxpayer money.  Hitler is the ideological godfather of the RH bill. 

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Pansinin nyo ang mga Born-against maggots dito. Kahit wala sa topic ipasok talaga yong against ako sa otot katoliko. Minsan may pa ala-Damaso pa.

  • Htee

    Ang daming comment sa ibaba na condom daw ang ipamigay sa nagugutom na mahihirap…hehehe. ang mga sumasagot naman ay hehehe.
    Please lang…nakakahilo na.

    Ang epekto ng RH BILL, kung maipasa ngayon, ay nakikita lang natin sa susunod na dekada o dalawang dekada pa. Hindi naman porke pumasa ang RH BILL ay 100% na aahon tayo sa kahirapan o liliit ang populasyon ng Pinas. Ang RH BILL ay tatalab lamang kung pipiliin ito ng mga tao, ika nga choice pa rin ng tao ang mangingiral.
    Ang isang pamilya, kahit iisa lang ang anak, kung hindi naman magtatrabaho ang tatay, wala ring mangyayari. Kung ang tatay ay subsob sa trabaho, kung sampo naman ang anak, hehe tange sya, wala pa ring mangyayari. Ang punto ko lang ay ito, dahil gagamit ng pondo ang gobyerno upang makapagbigay ng libreng condom, kailangan itong maisabatas. Masmainam na yung mga may gustong magplano ng pamilya, may libreng paraan na makukunan.
    Walang dapat ikakatakot ang simbahan dito sa RH BILL. Kung malakas ang impluwensya ng simbahan sa nasasakupan nila, di gasino nalang na ipagbawal nila sa mga parokyano nila ang gumamit ng contraceptives at condom. Parang sa muslim, naipinagbawal nila ang kumain ng baboy, ng INC na bawal ang dinuguan…kaya rin cguro ng simbahang katoliko na ipagbawal ang condom. Tiyak ko na marami ring susunod sa kautusan ng simbahan, nangunguna na sa mga ito ay ang mga anti-RH BILL na nasa ibaba. Rythem, o hugot nalaang sila ng hugot hangang masiraan na ng bait sa panay na bitin. Baka maghanap pa mg iba ang mga asawa nila sa kakabitin nila. Hayssss…kung saan saan napupunta ang usapan….BASTA IPASA NA YANG @#$%&* na BILL NAYAN….TAYO NA ANG BAHALA SA HULI….
    P.S.
    Kung kukurakutin lang ang pondo….tayo na rin ang babahala sa mga kurakot….

    • boypalaban

       SIGE ANONG GAGAWIN MO SA MGA MANGUNGURAKOT NG PONDO NIYAN?

      • Htee

        MERONG justisya para uusig dyan….pwede rin ang susunod na administrasyon…kagaya ng administrasyon ngayon.
        Marami pards…ang alalahanin mo…ang iyong asawa, baka maghanap yan dahil bitin lagi sya…biro lang….pero pwede ring magkakatutuo….hehehe
        Hehehe….bunot system ba?

  • $31552910

    Why don’t the pro-RH legislators follow their conscience on birth control and line up at government health centers for quick and painless sterilization to prove that they are not hypocrites?

  • joaquin_fajardo

    Tutol ako sa RH Bill… Kasi kapag ang Pilipinas nabawasan ang populasyon at gumanda ang ekonomiya, at katagalan ay maging maunlad na bansa… Aba’y sino na lang ang uutuin ng Simbahan? …Saka, sino na lang pagkukuhan ng cheap labor ng ibang mayayamang bansa!? HUWAG IPASA ANG RH BILL. PANATILIING MAHIRAP ANG PILIPINAS.

    • boypalaban

       SIGE IPASA NA YAN PARA MAKAKULIMBAT NA ANG PANGINOON MO NA SI LAGMAN AT SI BRENDA AT SI EPAL ANGAS DYNASTY PLAGIARIST CAYETANO…

      KAILANGAN NA NILA PRA SA ELEKSYON…AT PARA SA LUHO NG PAMILYA NILA…HABANG INUUTO KA NILA…CONGRATS…

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Ilang percent nga ang kupit sa tithings nyo?

  • antiscam

    I and 80% of all Filipinos (based on SWS survey nov 2012) HOPE & PRAY that the RH BILL will pass. Go RH Bill!!!

    • boypalaban

       scam lang yan RH Bill mo…para kumita ang panginoon mong si lagman at brenda…at si angas, epal dynasty, plagiarist cayetano…

      di ka antiscam…pro-corruption ka…

      • antiscam

         scam lang yan anti-RH Bill mo….para kumita ang CBCP, mga eskwelahan, ospital ng simbahan dahil dadami tao na magpapabinyag, pakasal, misa sa patay atbp….

        di ka boypalaban….pro NisaanSaPari at Mitsubishop Montero at Pajero ka…

  • melanioamarillo

    I was born at a time when babies were considered wealth and blessings to every family,  Yes, the baby boomer generation.  But our parents had no resources to feed  shelter and educate their children. There were ten of us in the family and surely only one was able to get a college degree. In the 1970s,  when I was in college (working student)  there were talks all over about the realities of  population explosion.  Studies after studies concluded there must be some kind if control, if only to delay if not stopped the dangers of man eating man.  So when I got my own family years later, me and my wife had already approved our own version of RH BILL in the family.  I approved it because I know I was not alone particularly in our school.  And it was at that time many countries among them Israel and Italy had put in place their Responsible Parenthood law.   Many in  our Asean neighbors did the same.  China, once the most problematic because of its billion mouths to feed, strictly  put in place its own One Child Policy.  Look! what and where is China now?
       We are very familiar with campaign propaganda, ‘fly now pay later,’  ‘study now pay later’  and even  ‘die now pay later’, ad nauseam.   By this comment I will suggest to both camps now putting up their last stand in Congress  APPROVE RH BILL!   I mean control now and de-control later  in other words regulate now and deregulate later… Same banana? Yes also same rice cake.     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BYS6GSIHJRLUICPDETDCN4MNPM joe

    yang vigil nyo para sa rh bill sana ginawa nyo na lang dasal para sa mga biktima ng bagyo.

    • boypalaban

      nanawagan ang mga binagyo;TRABAHO,PAGKAIN,BAHAY AT GAMOT…

      sige bigyan mo ng contraceptives…mas kailangan nila yang dala mong pag-asa…hahahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        DUN KA HUMINGI KAY CARNIVAL TAGLE MARAMING BININYAGAN BATANG HUBOT’ PALABOY YUN” KATOLIBAN TERRORIST”

  • Van

    How many gods do these priests have to pray to to equal action?

    • foreignerph

      Certainly the god of the pajeros ;-)

      • antiscam

         Nissan saPARI & Mitsubishop Montero hehehe. You reminded me of GMA and Catholic Church just 3 years ago hehehe

  • Mendoza_Juniors

     Sakaling pumasa ang RH Bill,   ibitay ang lahat ng lalaki na di marunong mag SATISFY sa kanilang mga asawa.  Si Mirriam at Pia ang mag try kung papasa at si Lagman ang huhusga.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      PAG PUMASA R.H BILL PATAY ANG NEGOSYO NI CARNIVAL TAGLE WALA NG MAMATAY SA SAKIT NA AIDS DAHIL MAY TREITMENT NA PANGGAMOT SI CARNIVAL TAGLE SULUSYON SA AIDS PADASAL AT SA MGA NANGANGANAK PADASAL DIN PATAY WALA NA KITA ANG VATICAN” AT ANG MGA KAMPON”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ND5WX2NSEI7C3ZYPS7D26RH5QM Neil

    kung makikta at mapupuntahan nyo lamang ang mga squater na nakapaligid sa metro manila doon nyo maiisip na dapat na nga ipasa ang RH bill nakakaawa ang mga buhay nila 5,7,9,mga anak nila walang makain sa araw araw di makapag-aral walang baon ni pamasahe napakahirap tignan nyo yung mga mayayaman 2,3 mga anak nila mayaman na sila noon pa sila gumagamit ng RH bill na yan mga anak nila san nag-aaral sa la-salle at ateneo at sa sto tomas sa  U.P kaya lalo silang yumayaman kasi maliit ang pamilya nila at mataas pa pinag-aralan nila
    at heto  lahat ng mayayaman na universities sa pilipinas ay mga pari at madre ang namamahala may squater na studyante ba na nakakapag-aral diyan  sumagot kayo mga magagaling lang sa bunganga yan lang po opinion ko pagpalain nawa ng diyos ang pilipinas

    • boypalaban

       “kung makikta at mapupuntahan nyo lamang ang mga squater na nakapaligid
      sa metro manila doon nyo maiisip na dapat na nga ipasa ang RH bill
      nakakaawa ang mga buhay nila 5,7,9,mga anak nila walang makain sa araw
      araw di makapag-aral walang baon ni pamasahe napakahira.”

      parang ikaw lang ang may alam ah…

      …at ang sagot pala sa mga problema na yan ay contraceptives?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       At bakit po may squatters?  Alisin natin ang paaralan katoliko alin ang good quality institutions na ipapalit? Di sila yumaman dahil sa condoms kundi mayaman sila dahil sa resources nila kasama na ang edukasyon.  Si Noy naging presidente dahil sa edukasyon.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JL7VPEQO24RIJTEJTPXJWTIAQA romel

        tumatanggap ba ng mahihirap ang sinasabi mong paaralan na pinamamahalaan ng mga pari?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Yes. May scholars sila.  Karamihan di tumatagal. May kilala ako pero mayayaman ang kaklase, may mga kotse kaya di kaya sumabay.

      • tamumd

        Ilan 2 or 3? Whatever they’re doing is not enough considering their rabid protest against the RH bill.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        May quota daw. Quality education needs quality teachers and quality salaries and quality educational system. Saan kukunin? Kung tatay mo nagtuturo at may masters o doctorate pwede ba sya magturo ng libre?

      • tamumd

        We are not talking about making the whole school tuition free for everyone here. How about 30 to 50% of these schools enrollment as free. At least there’s still half of the class who would be paying to pay for quality teachers and the facilities. Of course no extra income for the church but what would they do with the money anyway? To them it’s only a hindrance to entering their kingdom of god.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        As far as I know, some are returned to the schools for improvement.  Some are used to support the seminaries. Some for the missions in far-flung poor places in Phil and abroad. Some for charitable institutions.

      • tamumd

        Ah someone is lying. The funds for charitable projects as well as missions are solicited separately from donors..like Pondo ng Pinoy and Mission Sunday. They’ll ask from donors..then they will claim the honors later. Same with funding to seminaries. They are also sitting on a P19billion investments and properties they didnt wanna touch. SO your church has plenty of money

      • boypalaban

        dami niyan sa mindanao…galing ako doon kaya ako mismo ang magpapatunay…dami doon estudyante kahit hindi katoliko na hindi na nakakabayad ng tuition pero sige pa rin..tanggap pa rin..

      • zkenpachi

        really? ang mhal nga ng tuition ng ateneo, uic… u smoking sumting? cge nga ask mo daw ilang ordinaryong skwater s boulevard kng may nkpg-aral b s knila s ateneo or uic khit wlang pngtuition…

      • boypalaban

        ATENEO LANG BA ANG CATHOLIC SCHOOL SA BUONG MINDANAO?

      • zkenpachi

        ito nlng tanong ko, pwede b mkpg-aral ang 10 pinsan ko jan s ateneo khit wla png-tuition, sbi mo ksi “kahit hindi katoliko na hindi na nakakabayad ng tuition tanggap pa rin” Yes or No? 

      • angtangamo

        Lack of opportunity kaya maraming squatters. Good economic policies will trump the RH Bill anytime. In the absence of such then settle for the next best thing and that is the RH bill. Who knows baka mag decide ang gobyerno na buksan ang economy ng Pinas in the future. If that happens then there might not be a need for the RH bill. but until then pass the RH Bill!!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        I salute your candidness. Tawag dyan minsan ay “lesser evil” o kaya “short-cut” to growth in terms of statistics. To borrow Mirriam Santiago’s vocabulary: economic data “masturbation.”

      • boypalaban

         naging presidente yan dahil sa nanay niya…

        at sa slogan Kung walang kurap wlang mahirap…ngayon ay Kung walang mahirap..walang mahirap.”

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         :D

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Kung ang budget sa RH na yan ay gamitin sa edukasyon ay malunasan ang problema na nabanggit nyo. Bawiin natin ang kurakot ng politiko at gamitin sa edukasyon at pabahay sa squatters at bigyan ng magandang trabaho.

      • angtangamo

        Kung ang budget ng RH bill ay ginamit sa 26 million Filipinos that reportedly live under the poverty line ay wala pa rin mapapala dahil tig 500 pesos lang yan. Again you are talking about separate issues, the RH Bill is not designed to fix everything. The RH bill is just one of many policies required for poverty
        alleviation.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ang idea nyo ay pamigay. Create jobs by families and communities. May multiplying effect. Education may future at pag-asa. Stir the micro economy. Build infrastructrures.

      • angtangamo

        I should have phrased it differently. What I meant to say was even if you invest 14b directly into the economy it still wont have much effect in changing the lives of the 26m who are living in poverty. Sure you can build schools but that still wont stop people from multiplying. You can build a mega factory but that wont employ 26m people. One of the key factors of the RH bill is educating the masses as to why they should plan the number of children that they should have and that I think is what’s good about it the bill :)

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        We can have Responsible Parenthood in tandem with the programs. Not by individuals but by families and communities. They twist the truth.  Ayaw daw ng simbahan na ma space-out ang pag anak. False po. Ang sabi ay natural and avoid creating promiscuous attitude via contraceptive mentality.

  • foreignerph

    A condom a day keeps the bishops away.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JL7VPEQO24RIJTEJTPXJWTIAQA romel

    busy labanan ang RH Bill, pero walang ginagawa para matulungan mga nasalanta ng bagyo.  wala ring ginagawa para guminhawa ang buhay ng mga maralita sa mga lungsod.

  • $31594090

    This bishop is self-centered and fighting for his income that came from the disadvantage and poor masses.

  • $31594090

    We are praying that these anti-RH Bill politicians are not subsidized by the Bishops.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Mga Kapatid:   Para wala nang gulo.  Hatiin natin ang Pilipinas sa 1) Gumagamit libreng condoms at contraceptives, at 2) Natural at Organic Methods.  Ang pang-huli ay eco-friendly.

    • angtangamo

       Or mag bate na lang :)

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Brilliant alternative.

      • kulittwit

         Expert mga seminarista dyan.

  • antiscam

    To ALL CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS: In behalf of 80% of the Filipino People (as per SWS survey November 2012), PLEASE PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!!

    You are elected to fulfill the will of the majority. OUR COUNTRY IS A DEMOCRACY AND NOT A THEOCRACY (like Iran and Saudi). Follow the will of the Majority NOT the will of the Bishops. E Pluribus Unum.

    • boypalaban

      wow galing may Latin pang nakasulat….

      eliv ako…medyo nakakaintindi rin kasi ako niyan…

      kaya lang sablay lang sa pananaw e…

      ok na sana…

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    NO TO RH BILL, YES TO LIFE!

    • antiscam

       YES TO LIFE, YES TO RH BILL!!!

      • boypalaban

        NO TO CORRUPTION!
        NO TO PSEUDO-NATIONALISTS!
        NO TO FAKE FREE-THINKERS/LIBERAL MINDED!
        NO TO DECEPTION!
        NO TO RH BILL!

        YES TO PROTECTION OF LIFE!
        YES TO IMPLEMENTATION OF MATERNAL HEALTH LAWS!
        YES TO GOOD GOVERNANCE!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        KUNIN MO YUNG TAMOD KO DI PA NABUBUO” LIFE YUN”

  • antiscam

    To
    ALL CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS: In behalf of 80% of the Filipino People
    (as per SWS survey November 2012), PLEASE PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!!

    YOU ARE ELECTED TO FULFILL THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY. OUR COUNTRY IS A
    DEMOCRACY AND NOT A THEOCRACY (like Iran and Saudi). FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY NOT THE WILL OF THE BISHOPS. E Pluribus Unum.
     

  • kulittwit

    RH now na!

  • kulittwit

    Mga obispo-damaso paki sagot:

    Bakit ba ang mahal mahal ng tuition sa mga catholic schools e hindi naman kayo nagbabayad ng buwis?????

    Wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga businesmen basta makatubong lugaw kayo!

    Wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga pulitiko! bulag, pipi, at bingi kayo
    kapag mga kabaru nyo ang nabisto na tumanggap ng mga SUV at pajero
    kapalit ng katahimikan nyo sa mga kurakot ni arroyo!!

    Mga epokrito!!
     

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Alam nyo po ba kung magkano mag paaral sa anak nyo sa University of the Philippines?  State university po yan at suportado ng taxes natin. Ilan po ang mahirap na nag-aaral doon? Matatawa po kayo. Smile na lang ok pa.

  • EOJ

    YES TO QUALITY LIFE! YES TO RH!

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    YES TO LIFE, NO TO RH BILL!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      KAMPON NI CARNIVAL TAGLE ILILIGAW KA;; SA PAG TATAPON NG FETUS”

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    I insist as a tax-paying male Filipino:  Sakaling pumasa ang RH Bill,   ibitay ang lahat ng lalaki na di marunong
    mag SATISFY sa kanilang mga asawa.  Si Mirriam at Pia ang mag try kung
    papasa at si Lagman ang huhusga.

    • raptor_d_lonewolf

      utoyyyy……………mag congressman or senador ka muna hane………….mag gawa ka ng batas na pag nde na satisfy ang kanila asawa eh bitay ang kanilang kahahantungan. nde porke tax paying ka pa lamang ang pede na agad ang sinasabi mo.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        May pending na batas na po nasa Senate:  RH Bill. Kulang lang po ng approval at enabling law sa hatol. Nakalagay doon ensure “safe and satisfying” sexual life.

      • raptor_d_lonewolf

        eh me nakalagay ba naman dun sa rh bill na yun na pag nde na satisfy ni lalake yung kanyang asawa ih pede nang bitayin? panu kung yung asawang lalake naman ang nde na satisfy sa asawang babae? pede rin bang bitayin yung babae?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Eh di bale-wala po ang RH Bill kung di ipatutupad. Laki ng budget billions tapos di rin masusunod po. Ang tagal pa pinag- awayan.  Sorry po bawiin ko na lang di na bitay, pipitikin na lang natin ang b___g  o  ang tenga kaya?

    • ApoNiLolo

      One “post” is enough to state your sentiment. You don’t have to “recycle” and re-post it just to garner “like” points. People will think you’re either a troll or a KSP! >: D

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ok. Got your point. Para po sa mga troll dito yon. Level-headed like you ignore it. Dami kasi bastos at jerks dito. This would have been a wonderful place without those maggots. Thanks.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Hello Apo. Nakita mo yong number one troll dito? Ayon nag post na sa taas.

  • noypisiTED

    Let me share this. Just this morning I had my vehicle checked for a leak in the radiator hose. While the mechanics were busy attending to my vehicle I sat on a mono block chair offered to me by the shop’s owner next to a young pregnant woman who holds a toddler on her right arm. I asked the young lady whom I came to know was only 18 years old, “your child?” which she replied “yes.” I also asked, “I guess another one is coming soon”. With impish smile she said “8 months going to 9.” So I told her, “January is the birthday”. She half-smilingly nodded. Curious, I pressed on to ask some personal questions. “Do you have work?” She said, “none”. “How about your spouse, where’s he?” I nearly felled off my chair when she answered “he’s still asleep”. I instantaneously looked at my watch and it was 10 o’clock in the morning. He must have been jobless since according to his wife he’s still blissfully sprawled “in bed and attends school.” I wondered, what the future holds if not for the couple at least on their children. On the other hand I told myself who knows the future might turn out kind for them. besides it’s too early to say and judge. Curiouser, I asked the young mother what her thoughts are about the raging national discourse on the controversial RH bill. She said without blinking an eye, “I’m in favor of the bill.” Then I gazed on her young face and sensed that something deeper must have nudged her to answer that way. Then she threw a pensive stare on the distance as if musing on her and her children’s future, which I fully understand having grown children of my own, I knew the fears as well as the joys they bring on parents. Over in Davao Oriental where Pablo wreaked its cold fury, children lined up in the streets begging for food but there were only scarce of them if at all there’s any. It’s doomsday for these children as I thought the young mother I met this morning was better off. If you share in the fears of the young woman I met in tomorrow’s uncertainness, and can’t stand the sight of an impoverished scabbied children rummaging on a boondocks of rubbish searching for a morsel to eat or a pot bellied child, gunge on the nose, clinging on his mother who begs for alms would you not vote in favor of the RH bill?

    • ApoNiLolo

      I’m neither pro or against this issue, but I can imagine the “look” of that young mother. The same apprehension I saw on people who can’t see what the future have installed for them.

      Sad, but at least the young mother still cling to something she consider as “hope”.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

        I think it’s not hope you’re talking about (so generalized that HOPE that you’ve mentioned…it can be likened to a “Tuwad Na Daan” mantra of the clueless president). Passage of the RH Bill is the fish “jumping from the frying pan into the fire”.
        Neither nor but glimpse of “Tuwad Na Daan” ONLY HOPE clueless notion.
        Hahahahahaha!  Attributable to a yellow reasoning.

      • ApoNiLolo

        Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I’m talking of a single person (the young mother) as the subject, and yet you concentrate on a single word to push your own assessment of the word “hope” that leads to “Tuwad Na Daan”.

        Only persons in a state of delusion could have that kind of rational and think of such outrageous ideas. Kumain ka muna. Baka gutom lang yan. >: D

      • frudo

        hahhahahahah 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      Such encounter or scenario is beyond comprehension of the bishops who stay in their mansions and by many congressmen who stay in their air-conditioned offices..
       

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA SWITZERLAND AT NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI ANG BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER” TANUNGIN MO SI CARNIVAL TAGLE AT ANG MGA OBISPO NGISING DEMONYO”

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Eto na si Papa ko. Bumalik na. Pa sabi ni Mama umuwi ka na. Pinabili ka lang ng suka kung saan ka na napunta!

    • boypalaban

       PRESIDENTE NG PRO-RH…ETO NA ANG INYONG PINAGPIPITAGAN…

  • Francis81

    Alin kaya ang mananaig ang pera ng Malakanyang o ang dasal ng mga obispo?

    • brunogiordano

      Kung totoo ang dalawang pamimilian lang ng mga congressita hands down alam natin kung alin ang pipiliin nila.

      Hindi magiging mga congressita ‘yan kung mga tuso.

  • jinx

    You know why there is much uproar on this very controversial bill? Because it has the potential to impact on the lives of the Filipino people in the future!  Vote for the RH bill, and there’s gonna be changes in the political, social, economic, and religious landscape of this country.  There is some risk involved, but risk we need to reform this country.  Reject the bill and we preserve the status quo where the poor gets poorer, the rich gets richer, and the crook gets bolder. Reject the bill, and we will remain under the clutches of the Damasos and the trapos!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Hatiin natin ang Pilipinas. Mag jack-n-poy tayo.

    • boypalaban

       wow idealistic…..hanggang idea lang…pwede ka ba sa realidad?

      • jinx

        Haha, clueless ka lang.  After 14 years of being put aside by trapos, don’t you wonder why it has even come to this stage—-the voting?  This bill just refuses to die as long as dead fetuses are thrown in garbages, young mothers die during delivery, children continue begging on the streets, young people contract HIVs, and patriarchal men continue to bash their wives and just make children without working for the latter’s future.

      • boypalaban

         “This bill just refuses to die as long as dead fetuses are thrown in
        garbages, young mothers die during delivery, children continue begging
        on the streets, young people contract HIVs, and patriarchal men continue
        to bash their wives and just make children without working for the
        latter’s future.”

        …AT ANG SAGOT PALA DIYAN AY CONTRACEPTIVES? HAHAHAHA

      • jinx

         oo namn.  may solusyon ka ba?

      • boypalaban

         `OK….malinaw na stand mo…di na kita papatulan sa argumento…

        thanks…

        basta walang bawian…contraceptives ang solusyon mo sa lahat ng problema na yan…

      • jinx

        Wala talaga. Dahil kahit i-explain ko sa iyo na ang contraceptives tools to manage family size, di mo yan papansinin dahil ilang beses na pinaliwanag sa iyo ng napakaraming pro-RH, pero pilit mo pa ring idinidikit lagi contraceptives at condoms sa issue, na para bang iyon lang pinaglaanan ng bill.  Ewan ko, pero meron ka yatang obssession sa condom…..

      • boypalaban

        malinaw ang sagot mo sa tanong ko…

        may dapat pa ba tayong pagtalunan?

      • jinx

         wala na kc “magpapatahan” lang sa iyo condom, e naibigay ko na sa iyo e di tapos.

      • boypalaban

        malinaw na ang sagot mo…wala na dapat pagtalunan…nahuli ka na sa sagot mo….

      • Mojaku

        Wala nang masasagot sau yan.. checkmate na.

      • Mojaku

        Nandito na naman ang mga contraceptives baket gusto nio pa gawing batas what for ? kung sinu ang gustong bumili nakakabili naman. Pero kung bibigay mo ng libre iba yun..para ka ng nagbigay ng candy sa bata.

      • jinx

         O ito pa isang bata ayaw tumahan dahil walang ice cream. para sa iyo condom para tumahan ka na rin, ok ?

      • Mojaku

        Oh, baket wla kang ma sagot sa simpleng tanung ko cornered ka agad!!! ang dali naman..

      • frudo

        eh ayaw nyo pala isa batas eh di kayo magisip ng solusyon, ang hirap puro kayo kontra wala nman kayo mailatag dito na solusyon sa problema,  yung natural method ng pamily planning tagal na isenesermon yan diba umubra ba? hindi.. 

      • muy_burritto

        Seriously, have we had a nationwide push for NFP and Fertility Awareness?  Avoid sex on the 3 to 5 days that you’re fertile.    It’s amenable to the anti-RH, Free and most importantly, healthy.  It empowers a woman by learning about her own body. No need poison our women.  The only investment is education.  

      • jinx

        Ano ito? Kumbento o PMA training center na de-numero bawat galaw ng mag-asawa?  Sex is enjoyed and fulfilling if it comes spontaneously.  Wag mong ipilit ang opinyon mo na poison para sa mga babae dahil yun ang iginigiit ng mga anti, pero hindi accepted sa medical science. Mas maniwala naman ako sa scientific findings kesa sa opinyon ni Bacani.  Another thing, kung ayaw ng mga anti ng contraceptives, nariyan pa rin ang karapatan na yan, walang sapilitan, my goodness!

      • muy_burritto

        So you are saying, if a woman and man wants  enjoyment from hunger,or a lack of housing, or lack of basic needs.  The government should provide for free?  Akala ko ba responsibility ang inuusad natin at scarce ang resources?  

          Class 1 carcinogen status of OCs are not a cause of concern?Pwede siya ibalot sa candy at ipamigay basta basta lang?    Ibig mong sabihin gawa gawa at walang basis ang 44% higher incidence ng breast cancer sa mga babaeng di pa nanganganak?

        webmd(dot)com:Oct. 31, 2006 — Women who take oral contraceptives have a slightly increased risk of developing breast cancer early in life, with the risk being greatest for women who use oral birth control before they have their first child, a new analysis suggests.
        Researchers combined the findings from 34 previous studies designed to examine the impact of oral contraceptive use on breast cancer diagnosed before menopause.
        Twenty-one of 23 studies that followed women who took oral birth control before having their first child showed an increased risk of early breast cancer.
        Measuring Risk
        Based on these studies, the researchers concluded that taking oral contraceptives before a first full-term pregnancy increases premenopausal breast cancer risk by 44%, compared with women who have never used oral contraceptives.The increase in risk was 52% among women who took the pill for four years or more before having their first child.”I think women should know about this risk, and they are not being told,” researcher Chris Kahlenborn, MD, of Altoona Hospital in Altoona, Pa., tells WebMD.”Anyone who is prescribing oral contraceptives has a duty to tell women that 21 out of 23 studies showed an increased risk.”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SALOT DIYAN SI BISHOPS INUTUSAN SI MAYOR ATIENZA MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO SA MAYNILA PARA MAGING UNSAFE” IPINAG BAWAL ANG LIBRENG PAG PAPATALI TERRORISTA DIBA”

      • boypalaban

        AT NAG ENJOY KA NAMAN SA PANG AABUSO NG MGA BATANG HUBO?

      • antonioluna

        i think you’re getting worst… dati bakla ka lang, naging baklang taong grasa… ngayon pedophile na :(

      • antonioluna

        anong nakakatawa? ay baliw nga pala.. sori po :(

      • frudo

        eh ano sa tingin mo ang sagot kung againts ka sa contraceptives ? sige nga sabihin mo dito kung ano sagot? baka may maniwala syo at maging anti rh na rin..

      • antonioluna

        i think the question suits you better… ikaw ang baliw na nahihibang na.. gising na jerk!

    • Mojaku

      isa ka palang alagad ni rizal using damasos to get sympathy. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        and supporting those damasos? who has enslaved us for hundreds of years? remember.. they are the root cause of our poverty.. before they came we are a monarchy.

  • $31552910

    The RH bill is being defeated in public opinion and Congress despite commissioned surveys and fake sensational stories about poor families. The racist population control and eugenics agenda of the RH bill have been exposed.  Hitler is the ideological godfather of the RH bill.  The pro-RH special interest groups were forced to make major concessions and amendments to the RH bill due to the weaknesses of their arguments despite their foreign-funded propaganda machine. The RH bill is a despicable and deceptive piece of legislation that pretends to be for women’s rights and reproductive rights. Pro-RH marketing consultants even misappropriated and plagiarized the language of women’s rights to sell the RH bill.  Population control will cause population imbalance and aging population which will lead to decline in economic growth and higher healthcare costs.  The RH bill is another blame-the-poor program for the comfort and convenience of the wealthy and privileged few. The RH bill is all about empowering the State, Big Pharma, and the Population Control Establishment, which includes groups like the Population Council, Club of Rome, International Planned Parenthood Federation, to reduce the fertility of Filipino men and women, control women’s bodies, control healthcare decisions, control access to healthcare products and services, and control the education of children using taxpayer money. Women and poor families should be provided with economic opportunities instead of wasting taxpayer money on the RH bill.

    • NoWorryBHappy

      “Hitler is the ideological godfather of the RH bill”
      – JOSKOH ! Buhay pa si Hitler ! Isarado ang mga bintana. Ikandado ang mga pintuan !
      :
      “Pro-RH marketing consultants even misappropriated and plagiarized the language of women’s rights to sell the RH bill.”
      – Kasalanan lahat ng ito ni Tito Sotto. Siya ang father of plagiarism.
      :
      “…control women’s bodies, control healthcare decisions, control access to
      healthcare products and services, and control the education of children
      using taxpayer money.”
      – Totoong- totoo ! We should get out of control. No more control, please.
      :
      “…blame-the-poor program for the comfort and convenience of the wealthy and privileged few.”
      – Mga maralita !  Mga dukha !  Mga patay gutom ! Mga yagit ! Magkaisa ! Rebolusyon !

    • vendetta07

       It’s not racist.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

      Hitler love by his own people….. because he love his country.

      Spending taxpayers money in HB4244 is for good of marginalized groups in society….but the most waste taxpayers money are the corrupt elective officials in our government. PASS THE HB4244.

      Lets Roman-Catholics bishops and clergys tax their income and businesses!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

    Once the bill is passed.. there will be a new era for the country.. a new transformation from the dark ages for almost 500 years.

    • boypalaban

      yes…from the dark armpit of fake defender of women and the poor, the horrorable Lagman…

      • antonioluna

        sus, typical anti-RH supporter.  Bastos, inosente, senseless kausap.  hohuumm…

    • Mojaku

      Baka to dark ages ang ibig mong sabihin.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        as i’ve said we were in the dark ages for almost 500 years. Once this bill will be passed. there will be a new transformation of the country – for the better.

  • Albert Einstien

     HITLER’S representatives pushing for RH bill is now in the SENATE it’s up for you guys to search ….UNMASK hitler’s representative…..before they will UNLEASH their evil plans for the filpino breed….!

    NO to RH bill….pro-slavery, anti-filipino, anti-progress & antifuture…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

      Hitler love his country….. he prefer to be died in his country by killing himself and burned his body than to be in the hands of the enemy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    The fallacies of the RH Bill can be likened to a promised paradise drawn and envisage by a fool.  He hires the architect to make a visual model of it so that everybody would buy it (could be as the last hope TO BE HAPPY, where happiness could only mean promiscuity without the risks of babies and diseases, afterall, the paradise Philippines are known by the clients as good place to buy sex…petit Pinays are all around, as well as naive school girls and youngsters).
    UN says “NOT BY CHANCE” when the data and statistics are INCOMPLETE to correlate it to the IMPORTANCE of RH Bill.
    While the “tool” president is all out for it, for LACK of BRAINS!
    Hahahahahahaha!  From the frying pan into the fire!
    You need low quality condoms & pills, take it from here, in my beloved paradise country!  To the obsolete pharma DUMP all that low-quality PLASTIC BALOONS & low-quality TOXIN PILLS to us, to RECOVER YOUR FAILED RESEARCH & DEVEPMENT COST.  WE WILL SUCK/ABSORB IT FOR YOU…BECAUSE WE ARE NAIVE!
    I’m just wondering if the seat (as judge) in the INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT is PART OF THE COMPROMISED CONCESSIONS, or the, CHINESE CLAIMS PERHAPS!…OF COURSE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE “PERCEIVED” POOR.
    Hahahahahaha!  More fun in the Philippines, INDEED!
    CONDOMS & PILLS EVERYONE!
    Hahaha

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

      We are already in modern technology era….. but still you are still believing in the myth of this Bishops & clergys……read & read and understand….live gother with other religion and you will understand more things concerning religion and real salvation.

      • Mojaku

        Hindi naman kasi si Jesus ang Diyos mo eh kaya ka ganyan nde mo alam ang dahilan kung baket ayaw namin.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SRLWUTE6TYKA332DDUG5E2YGUQ Sandiego

    who’s the chink in the skirt

  • vendetta07

    the more the church goes against the bill, the more they will lose their flock who become sick of their shenanigans 

    • Mojaku

      For me isang malaking HINDI !!!!!,, hindi ako aalis sa Catholic Church I will stay with it.

      “NO TO RH BILL”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        UMALIS KANA SALOT YAN”’ INUTUSAN NIYAN SI MAYOR ATIENZA NA IPAG BAWAL ANG PAG PAPATALI SA CENTER YUNG KAPIT BAHAY NAMIN INABOT NG 11 ISA ANG ANAK DRUG ADICT NA MGA ANAK NAPABAYAAN NG INA SA DAMI CARNIVAL TAGLE TERRORISTA YAN”’

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSJCTNLHUT5JVA3BZHJUCWAPRE banikab

        ikahihiya ka ng ina mo.

      • Mojaku

        Baket kakilala mo ba nanay ko?

      • frudo

        sino ba may sabing umalis ka sa religion mo ang pinag uusapan dito wag magingg pakialamero ang ibang obispo at ibang mga pari na makialam sa gobyerno, tagal na sila nakikialam sa gobyerno diba. umunlad ba ang Pinas hindi! bakit di sila pumunta sa mindanoa at dun sila magdasal at ipagdasal nila ang mga nagugutom at biktima ng bagyong Pablo dun, duon mas higit silang kailangan.  manatili ka sa reilihiyon mo wlang nagpapaalis syo.

      • Mojaku

        HOY ! Kung galit ka sa mga pari problema mo yun. Wla kang paki alam sa comment ko! Ikaw ang pumunta sa mindanao at tumulong sa mga biktima ng bagyo ng may pakinabang naman sa inyo ang bayan!

      • frudo

        Talo na kayo wag ka na bitter move on na lang hoy!

      • Mojaku

        Katalohan mo rin yun ! Lol.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        and live like PIGS?

      • Guest

         PIGS = Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

        We can only dream of their living standard.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

      For fake Catholics. they will do what you said. But the Church has no right to change what Jesus gave them to protect. The Church needs to stand on what she believes because it’s their duty.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSJCTNLHUT5JVA3BZHJUCWAPRE banikab

        you’re calling the catholic church a she. i didnt know that the catholic church has pekpek. what is a fake catholic? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    The TRUTH IS THE MINDS OF CATHOLICS GOT ALREADY A WIDE UNDERSTANDING AND ALREADY OPENED-MIND HOW ROMAN-CATHOLICS BISHOPS AND CLERGYS MANIPULATE AND UNDERMINE POLITICIANS AND BELIEVERS……NOW Pilipino people already knowledgeable what is really religion in the society.

    • Mojaku

      Baket nakausap mo na ba ako alam mo yung understanding ko sa kanila.. 

      • observer1356

         ha ha ha ha… ok ang reply mo ah! nice one too.

      • ARIKUTIK

        How about you can you reply this > “Do you believe in God ? ”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    Naalala ko lang ng HUNGHANG NA PRESIDENTE on his speech about “EXTOLLING THE BELEN”…It didn’t come into his TANGA mind that God came to the world, in the lineage of King David, as a HIGH QUALITY POOR, to GIVE THAT MESSAGE?
    But because UN Herod declares CONDOMS & PILLS to massacre the “POOR”, then the saving grace is STOPPED.  Need to study CAIN & ABEL and a lot more…Don’t be emotional and be a FAN…history repeats itself in so many forms…but the character and the message of Christmas still holds true…HEROD is very much ALIVE…he’s just DISGUISING as promised QUALITY OF LIFE for the “NO POOR CHILDREN BE BORN”.  What happened during Christmas was that there was this unpopular good natured poor (from the lineage of the real King- King David) who chose to be born in a menger in swaddling cloth…
    Merry Christmas…and let those innocent children to be born can find refuge in your heart (not the emotional feelings but as a CORE of a MAN and of the TRUTH)
    Amen, to that!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSJCTNLHUT5JVA3BZHJUCWAPRE banikab

      ha ha ha UN Herod declares CONDOMS and PILLS to massacre the “POOR”? really??? seriously??? what drugs are you on?

      • observer1356

         ha ha ha ha.. sama ako sa yo makitawa lang…

        “what drugs are you on?” — i like that! nice one!

    • ARIKUTIK

      Hey Joe, kung may pananalig ka ay mabuti pang magdasal ka na lang kesa mag mura o mangaral tungkol sa bibliya. Ang mga kalaban mo ay kampon ng kadiliman na walang paniniwala sa Panginoon at hindi tatablan ng mura. Pero ang panalangin ay maka pangyarihan. Ipag dasal nating malinawan ang isip ng ibang Pro RH. It’s only a matter of 5 votes to kill the RH bill. Hindi pa tapos ang laban. God is watching us. Faith can move mountains. Pray to your Lord.

  • jcRco

    Hindi ang RH Bill ang kasagutan para mapa-unlad ang Bayan. ang motibo lng ba nito ay para controlin ang populasyon ng pilipinas? well ang kilangan lng natin ay to be RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS and to have a GOOD GOVERNANCE, hindi na kilangan ng kahit anong Bill kung tayo rin lng naman ay mga responsable at maging MASIPAG, isa pa, marami na ang gumagamit ngayon ng ibat’-ibang contraceptives kahit na wala yang bill nayan, dios ko kahit nga siguro bata ngayon alam na kung ano ang mga condoms etc. ano pa kaya kung ma-ipasa yan? magiging isa na sa mga dapat pag-aralan ng mga estudyante on how to use contraceptives? dapat tayong mga pilipino we know how to stand in our own, hindi yung maki gaya tayo sa ibang bansa na mga liberated na, pagtatawanan na ang mga virgin,, well dito we must be proud of it. Kilangan lng natin ay maging MASIPAG, DISIPLINA, at RESPONSABLE yan lng ang kilangan natin to have a GOOD NATION. ipagsigawan natin sa MUNDO na tayong mga PILIPINO ay di kilangan ng kahit anong batas para lng tayo au uunlad. ang laki kayang budget nyan, kung yang pera na yan ay gagamitin nlng sa pagpapatayo ng mga silid-aralan, etc. ang daming paraan para tayo ay uunlad. Gamitin natin ang pera para sa ika uunlad ng bayan hindi sa sariling panganga-ilangan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    Jesus was born poor….What if he was trying to be born now dito sa pinas?……E baka yung nanay na gusto nya e nag artificial contraception?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSJCTNLHUT5JVA3BZHJUCWAPRE banikab

      kala ko ba pinanganak na si jesus bakit sya ulit magsusubok na ipanganak. saka di ba ipinanganak sya through immaculate conception, so hindi nya kailangan ng nanay. pag si jesus pumunta sa pilipinas, paghahagupitin nya ang mga tangang obispo dahil hindi na makatuturan ang panghimasukan ang karapatan ng kababaihang magdesisyon kung ano ang mabuti para sa kanyang katawan. hindi naman nagbubuntis ang opisbo o ang lalaki, so bakit nila pinanghihimasukan ang isang batas na magpapatibay sa karapatan ng mga kababaihan at katiwasayan ng buhay ng pamilya?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA SUWITZERLAND AT NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI BATANG HUBO KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER” TANUNGIN MO SI CARNIVAL TAGLE AT ANG MGA OBISPONG KAMPON”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      SINABI NI CRISTO PANGALAGAAN MO” PINARARAMI MO” DI KA PARAMI NG PARAMI PAG PAG NA KINAKAIN’ MO’ TANUNGIN MO SI CARNIVAL TAGLE AT YUNG MGA KAMPON NIYANG OBISPO ANG SASAYA”

      • Mojaku

        Anu raw ??

      • antonioluna

        pasensya na pre… pede po bang paki edit yung sinabi mo? hindi ko talaga magets… wag kasi masyadong mainit ulo pag nag ty-type… puro demonyo eh… hahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/45YIBMNHBUP3CSS75JGQPK6V6Q Anamarija

        may sapi nga yata tlg hahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        THANKS PARE ASAR KASI AKO SA OBISPO PARANG GUS2 KO RAT RATIN A.K 47 NAPA SINUNGALING AYAW SABIHIN ANG TOTOO PAANO NA YUNG MGA NANINIWALA SA KANILA SAAN NILA DADALHIN”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    Not to RH Bill

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN SAY YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    malamig na koneksiyon ko sa Romano-Catholics dahil inilalayo tayo sa tunay na katuruan ni Kristo sa pamamagitan ng Bagong Tipan.

    They are putting Saints which is not biblical! They let the followers to be nearer to Saints that put up by Vatican … than to pray the faithful through Jesus Christ.

    • Mojaku

      Talagang malamig dahil hindi ka naman katoliko nde mo alam kung anu ang role ng mga Saints!!. 

  • Yehehhh

    Read here part of the Message of Most Rev. Jose S. Palma, Archbishop of Cebu:”Amidst the many voices trying to influence the outcome of your deliberations, I call upon you in the words of our Lord first said to Abaham, “Do not be afraid!” Listen to what God is saying; “obey God rather than men” (cf Ac 5:29) For “unless the Lord builds the house, the builders labor in vain” (Ps 127), and the Lord Himself has assured us, “I am with you always until the end of the age” (Mt 28:20).NO TO RH BILL!!!!

    • for_Prosperity

      Perhaps, God has finally listened to and acted on the prayers of the people and He guided some politicians to draft the RH Bill. Perhaps, ‘yan na ang isa sa mga sagot sa ating kahirapan. Perhaps, God wants now to see a prosperous Philippines over poor Philippines.

      Whatever the result of this vote in Congress, let us respect it. It is the will of God.
      I pray for the passing of the RH Bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSJCTNLHUT5JVA3BZHJUCWAPRE banikab

    nakakawalang gana ang mga obispong ito. nakakawalang ganang maging katoliko, lalo na pag babae ka. walang pagkilala ang simbahang katoliko sa karapatan ng mga kababaihan. walang pagkakaiba ito sa panghihimasok ng mga paring kastila noong unang panahon. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Wow, so much delusion in this thread.  I’d refute the points, but frankly they’ve all been refuted and proven wrong before, and I can’t be bothered anymore.

    Here’s hoping Congress does the right thing tomorrow and approves the bill.

  • antonioluna

    Yes to RH Bill

  • artz555

    Yes to the RH bill.

    Archbishop Palma said one should ‘ protect the dignity of the human person ‘ which everybody agrees. But how can one protect the dignity of more and more poor people that will come without the RH bill. And these more and more poor people would be suffering with less and less food , less and less housing, less and less education for their numerous children, less and less jobs for the bread winners of the families, etc. etc.etc  for years to come, without the RH bill.

    And of course, the government with it’s limited funds and resources would be overburden with the needs of these more and more poor people for their food, education, housing, jobs, etc.etc. etc for years and years to come, without the RH bill. Does Archbishop Palma and the church know these consequences ?

    Pass the RH bill now.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

      Baka hindi tao ang anak mo, kaya ka nagsasalita ng ganyan.
      Intindihin mo namang mabuti ang sinasabi mo.
      Sa ibang bansa kinukuha ang mga asong kalye at inaalagaan, para kunwari, mas mataas ang level ng pagmamahal ng tao (humane)…pero dito sa pinas, pag ang mag-asawang mahihirap (sa kasalukuyan DUE TO LACK OF OPPORTUNITIES or otherwise) plano pa lang na magkaanak kinukutya, “WAG NA LANG, PALAMUNIN LANG NG GOBYERNO”.
      Hahahahaha!  Tanga kasi ang presidente, kaya, ganun din ang mga fans nito.

    • for_Prosperity

      Let us give the RH Bill a chance to prove itself. Perhaps, God would be happy to see the number of people suffering from poverty reduced. Pass the RH Bill NOW!!!

  • tenyearsafter

    YES TO RH BILL!
      Yes to SEX!
      Yes to SODOMY!
      Yes to PROMISCUITY!
      Yes to ABORTION!
      Yes to FORNICATION!
    Its more fun in the Philippines!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    Alam ba nila ang nangyayari sa totoong Pasko?
    Na ang pamilya ng MESSIAH ay nagtatago dahil si Herodes ay PINAPAPATAY ANG BAWAT SANGGOL dahil sa isip niya masasapawan siya.
    Ganito rin ang pag-iisip ng mga pro-RH Bill…sa takot nila na silay maubusan dahil dadami ang isisilang na MAHIHIRAP daw na sanggol.
    Pabalik-balik lang naman ang situwasyon, mini-make-up-an lamang, si HERODES pa rin.
    Si Noynoy ang HERODES at ang mga CONGRESISTA ang mga tagagawa ng utos niya, hindi dahil tama siya, KUNDI, may PORK kasi, DAPAT MAGARANG KOTSE pangharorut sa COMMONWEALTH Ave.
    Hahahahahahaha!  Text na kay kalbong Abad na OK, YARI na ang UTOS ni HERODES.
    Merry Christmas! 

  • lastofdmohicans

    While the Vatican itself forbids superstitions here comes our modern day Padre Damaso unashamedly dabbling in superstitions like linking Pablo to the RH bill.

    Tsk!…tsk!  Tsk!….talaga nga naman.

    They would rather see the Filipino people forever in shackles in endless cycle of poverty…rather than have a population management in place.

    We see everyday talamak na crime, patayan, nakawan, drugs, exploitation, sex slavery, corruption, hunger, cruelty, hopelessness and all the evils that come from overpopulation…

    …BUT we haven’t seen these purveyors of mysticism get aroused, get angry and mobilize like veteran trapos – kumpleto with matching threats or pagbabanta – like they do with the issue of population management.

    WHY ???

    WHAT’s in population management that the CBCP FEAR SO MUCH???

    Takot ba silang mawala ang nakikita nating street children araw-araw na sing dami ng langaw ?

    Takot ba silang dumami ang mga batang nakakapagaral at lumaking mulat? 

    Takot ba silang makitang gumaan-gaan ang buhay-pamilya ng susunod na salinglahing Pilipino na marunong nang kumontrol ng dami ng kanilang anak  (remembering how the number of kids is
    directly proportional to the probability of poverty) ??

    Takot ba silang makita na dumami ang magkaroon ng trabaho dahil sa pantay na bilang ng tao at bilang ng available na trabaho?

    Takot ba silang kumonti ang squatter dahil pumapantay na ang bilang ng nangangailangan ng bahay sa bilang ng available na pabahay?

    Takot ba silang makita na may sapat na kama sa ospital, gamut at doctor at nurses sa bawat Pilipinong may sakit??

    Takot ba silang makitang kumonti ang mga taong nalulong sa droga…nalulong sa krimen dahil lumaki sila sa kahirapan, lumaki silang walang patnubay ng kanilang magulang na na paralisado
    dahil sa sangkaterba nilang mga anak ??

    And we can go on and on.

    LIKE THE EXPERIENCES IN LATIN AMERICA, PADE DAMASO THRIVES IN CONDITION OF DESPAIR…

    … AND SO WANT TO PERPETUATE THE CONDITION OF DESPAIR.

    NOW THEY ARE BROTHERS IN ARMS WITH THE ARROYO PARASITES WHO WILL RIDE ON
    ANYTHING JUST TO UNDERMINE THE PNOY GOVT…

     
    THE INFLUENCE of padre damaso HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES YET OUR COUNTRY IS ONLY KNOWN FOR POVERTY, CRIME, CORRUPTION  AND SEMI-SLAVES. 

    FREE OUR PEOPLE.  RELEASE THE SHACKLES OF CENTURIES OF INTRUSION THAT BROUGHT NOTHING BUT MISERY TO OUR PEOPLE.    PASS THE RH BILL NOW..

    .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

      Wow!
      Another moron presented an argument…
      Hahahahaha!

    • for_Prosperity

       PASS THE RH BILL NOW! Yan ang sigaw ng majority!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

      hey we are talking immorality in here.. hindi over population ang problema neng…. kurakot na mga tao at selfish na mga demonyo… kung hindi ba naman agawan ng lupa ang mga mahihirap at kung bibigyan lang ng pansin ng gobyerno ang pag aalaga sa mga mahihirap imbes na gastusin sa mga luho nila ang pera, e d ok sana tayo ngayon. hindi solution ang pagpapa impose ng RH bill na yan ang problema ng mga pinoy. kung kabobohan ang pagpapadami ng tao, sabihin mo yan kay Lord. Siya lang naman  may Gusto ng lahat kung gusto Niyang mag create ng Life….

      • Guest

        Even if the politicians were lesser corrupt, it won’t help a couple who together have badly paid jobs but 9 children.

  • mangtom

    banikabCollapseyou’re calling the catholic church a she. i didnt know that the catholic church has pekpek. what is a fake catholic? Sagut kay banikab: this is the most hilarious statement about the anti-RH people. Now I have heard it all. Thanks for the special treat. You are a genius, my friend. A follow-up: kaya ayaw nila ang contraceptives and condoms para mabilis ang breeding nila. Isa pa, ang sabi ng mga catolico ay “married” daw yong mga pari nila sa church. Your statement explains it all-he-he-he.Pass the RH bill.

  • antiscam

    TO ALL CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS: PLEASE PASS THE RH BILL NOW. ACCORDING TO THE LATEST SWS SURVEY, 70-80% OF FILIPINOS SUPPORT THE PASSING OF THE RH BILL. WE ARE A DEMOCRACY. YOU ARE OBLIGED TO FULFILL THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY. THATS THE REASON YOU WERE ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE THREATS OF OUR BISHOPS THAT THEY WILL BLACKLIST YOU IN THE COMING ELECTIONS. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CATHOLIC VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY. EVEN IF THAT BLACKLIST WILL BE FULLY ACTED, ONLY 20% WILL FOLLOW IT AS PER SWS SURVEY. 80% OF THE FILIPINO WILL STILL BE BEHIND YOU SO SUCH BISHOP’S BLACKLIST CANNOT AFFECT YOUR CHANCES OF RE-ELECTION…THE PEOPLE (80% AT LEAST) HAVE SPOKEN. YOU MUST FOLLOW THEM.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

      Don’t shout “crucify Him” on Christmas season.  Just wait for the Lenten Season.
      Hahahahahahahaha!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    We greeted “Merry Christmas”…but we FORGOT the meaning of it.
    Why is it “MERRY”?  It’s because of the GIFT OF LIFE that anyone can enjoy.  Even God chose to become man, and be born in the menger in swaddling cloth, hunted by Herod.  It means He’s giving REAL DIGNITY to the poor because He chose to be born with the situation.  And who are those LUCKY enough that the angels gave the NOTIFICATION that the HOPE is here?  It’s the poor SHEPHERD.
    But the Herod president is afraid of the poor, that it might affect his economic performance indicator, that his mana will be distributed to them (the HLI).
    Get the point?
    Merry Christmas!  Being a “poor” is disposition of the heart (the core of a man) towards the CREATOR.  Being “economically poor” is a temporary situation because of greed…it is, therefore a challenge to elevate them…NOT BY GIVING LOW QUALITY CONDOMS & TOXIC PILLS FOR FREE, BUT, TO INSPIRE THEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE LIFE IS A GIFT.
    Merry Christmas to you all!  May you GIVE LIFE and SHARE LIFE to the POOR!
    Merry Christmas!

    • for_Prosperity

      I agree. SO let us pray for the passing of the RH Bill so we could share more to the poor people in our country. The more the poor, the lesser they get. The lesser the poor, the more they get.

      PASS THE RH BILL NOW! It’s long been overdue!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZO2FOBJ2P77CDRXLAQZJ6ZRCB4 Cynthia

    Get it over and done with, pass the RH bill now!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

      Merry Christmas “SALOME”!
      Hahahahaha!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

    NO TO RH BILL……GRABE TALAGA ANG DEMONYO MAKAPAG POISON NG MIND SA MGA TAO. KUNG PAGOD NA KAYO SA DAMI NG MAHIHIRAP DITO SA PINAS, E D HUWAG KAYO MANGURAKOT.

  • for_Prosperity

    Perhaps, God has finally listened to and acted on the prayers of the people and He guided some politicians to draft the RH Bill. Perhaps, ‘yan na ang isa sa mga sagot sa ating kahirapan. Perhaps, God wants now to see a prosperous Philippines over poor Philippines.

    Whatever the result of this vote in Congress, let us respect it. It is the will of God.
    I pray for the passing of the RH Bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    GO RH

    The Majority wants it!!!

  • for_Prosperity

    “THE MORE THE POOR, THE LESSER THEY GET. THE LESSER THE POOR, THE MORE THEY GET.”

    Do not be “PRO-POOR”. We don’t want to see the number of poor people in our country increase. Let us fight poverty now!

    RH BILL is one of the answers.

    • Garo Ungaro

      The church has no business on this issue…the main issue of the church is the spiritual needs of the people…the state has to do with the socio/economic issues of the country…both exist because of the the people…the thin line between the church and the state should be respected…the majority of the people has the say…and both side has to respect that…if RH bill must be the law of the land then, so be it…the people has spoken..the people are the being affected more than this two sides…the well being of the people should be the foremost priority by this two sides…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

    Sabi mo perhaps? E pano Kung sabihin ko definitely bulong ng demonyo? Kung suswayin ng mga Tao ang gusto ni Lord na magcreate ng life, definitely matutuwa ang demonyo. Our God will not create overpopulation. When one lives, one will die. Paano tau nagiging overpopulated eh, ang laki ng pinas.. You see, the devil manipulate us all by using poverty as the main problem para suswayin si Lord… Wake up people. Corruption and selfishness Ang problema. Kung hindi lang gahaman sa kayamanan, pera, at lupa Ang mga Tao, do you think, makakakita pa kayo ng mga tao ng walang bahay? Kinakamkam kasi ang mga lupa at inaalisan ng pangkabuhayan Ang mga mahihirap. Syempre, mahirap lang, takot makipag away, kaya aalis nalang sila. Ni Hindi nila alam kung Saan pupunta….

    • for_Prosperity

      In the 70’s, our population was around 77 million. Now it is over 90 million people. That is simple maths. 90 million is a lot more than 77 million. Our population is getting bigger. Kasabihan nating mga Pinoy, “kapag dumarami ang anak, lumalabnaw ang gatas. Kapag dumarami ang anak, lumiliit ang kumot”.

      Malaki nga ang bansang Pinas, pero kailangan natin ng sapat na lupa para sa mga tanim na magbibigay sa atin ng pagkain at sapat na lugar para sa mga hayop na nagbibigay ng karne, at sapat na lugar para matirahan (… yung hindi binabaha).

      Kaya nga kung wala ng mahirap, wala ng maaapi pa. Kasi kaya sila inaapi, mahirap sila. SO, ano ang kasagutan para hindi na sila apihin?

      Let us vote for the RH Bill !!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

        Bakit, yan bang pagkain at karne na sinasabi mo, mapupunta ba yan sa mga mahihirap? Hindi naman ah… Yung iba ine export para kumita ng mas malaking pera. Eh yUng pera kanino ba mapupunta? Sa private sectors. Yung calamity, Hindi mo naman kontrolado yun. Pero kung gaano ka husay paggawa ng establishments para d basta basta ito magiba kontrolado ng Tao. Hindi ako pro poor… Ang akin lang, mas naiintindihan ko kung gaano kagaling maglaro ang demonyo para kumagat ang mga tao to practice immorality. Tapos sasabihin, no choice tayo. Marami mahihirap… Eh kung may proper education, housing, trabaho ang mga tao, sa tingin mo ba dadami ang pulubi sa kalsada? Tapos sasabihin, binibigyan naman ah…oo binigyan nga pero d yung fool budget Ang ibinigay… Kac, kinukurakot pa Yong para sa mga mahihirap. Sa tingin mo, aasenho nga kaya talaga tayo sa ganyan? Hindi rin… Mas lalala tayo.. Kasi hinahayaan na natin mga sarili natin na gamitin tayo ng mga masasama. Sa tingin mo ba kung gagawa ng immorality Ang isang bansa para sa ikauunlad neto, eh matutuwa Ang panginoon?

      • Guest

         “In the 70’s, our population was around 77 million.” ???

        In the seventies, the population was even much less with above 40 million people.

        For reference: In 1960, the population was just about 28 million.

        13 million people more in 40 years would translate into a slow population growth.

        Check the NSO satistics records.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5QFKGABFVF472G7C2I76KP7H7I wrasef sdfsdf

    And then many will fall away and betray one another. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come…

  • El_Gran_Capitan

    Mga Damaso, Salvi, Sybilla, mga prayle, magsitahimik kayo wag nyong gawing uto uto ang mga Pinoy, mahigit na 300 taon nyong inuto, inalipin at inalila ang mga Pinoy

  • http://www.facebook.com/joel.valdoria Joel Valdoria

    respeto para sa mga pari at bishop. pero sa palagay ko ito talaga ang tamang panahon para matutong magplano ang bawat pamilya na may suporta ng ating gobyerno upang mabawasan ang kahirapan sa ating bansa. manalangin tayo na mas manaig ang mas nakararaming pilipino tungo sa isang maunlad at mapayapang bansa. amen..

  • rmichael2

     Where are they, while Davao was struggling with the aftermath of the recent storm.

    Year after year, our country is ravaged by different calamities, yet the leaders of the church, the politicians who are against this bill, are no where in sight.

    It’s time for us to move forward, as a country. Its time to pass this bill.

  • UrHONOR

    >>>Bishops gird for RH bill battle<<<

    BISYAPS, K.O. on second round!

    Sabi ni PAC boboto siya kontra RH bill…kaya, ayon, napatulog ni MAR. :)

  • Guest

     RFreemont:

    “The RH bill is being defeated in public opinion and Congress despite
    commissioned surveys and fake sensational stories about poor families.
    The racist population control and eugenics agenda of the RH bill have
    been exposed.  Hitler is the ideological godfather of the RH bill.  The
    pro-RH special interest groups were forced to make major concessions and
    amendments to the RH bill due to the weaknesses of their arguments
    despite their foreign-funded propaganda machine. The RH bill is a
    despicable and deceptive piece of legislation that pretends to be for
    women’s rights and reproductive rights. Pro-RH marketing consultants
    even misappropriated and plagiarized the language of women’s rights to
    sell the RH bill.  Population control will cause population imbalance
    and aging population which will lead to decline in economic growth and
    higher healthcare costs.  The RH bill is another blame-the-poor program
    for the comfort and convenience of the wealthy and privileged few. The
    RH bill is all about empowering the State, Big Pharma, and the
    Population Control Establishment, which includes groups like the
    Population Council, Club of Rome, International Planned Parenthood
    Federation, to reduce the fertility of Filipino men and women, control
    women’s bodies, control healthcare decisions, control access to
    healthcare products and services, and control the education of children
    using taxpayer money. Women and poor families should be provided with
    economic opportunities instead of wasting taxpayer money on the RH bill.”
     

    You really don’t know the racial policy of Hitler. He was actually the biggest
    proponent of larger population is equal to more power (and more
    prosperity). Under the Nazi regime, abortion was totally banned (except
    for babies with DNA defects), but all in all, Hitler dreamed of a large
    German, healthy population. He wanted to Germanize the whole world
    actually. How can that thinking be compatible with RH population growth
    moderation?

    He would have all in all banned RH policies.

  • pasaway008ako

    Bakit ba kasi kinokontra iyang RH bill na iyan e para sa kapakanan din iyan ng tao. Di ba iyan ay makakatulong sa mga magpa-pamilya na hindi kayang tustusan ang laki ng pamilya? Kung hindi mo kayang buhayin at bigyan ng magandang kinabukasan ang iyong mga anak e bakit anak ka ng anak?  Ang mga pari wala silang paki-alam diyan dahil hindi naman sila magpa-pamlya e. Si Pacquiao, kahit na ilan ang anak ay kayang buhayin, kahit na mag-dalawa o tatlo pa ang asawa ay kayang niyang buhayin, pero ang iba na hindi naman kayang buhayin at bigyan ng magandang kinabukasan ang mga anak ay huwag ng anak ng anak pa! Mga pari, tumigil na kayo at wala kayong kamalay-malay sa pagpa-pamilya!!! Sige nga, basahin nga ninyo sa biblia ang tungkol sa pagpa-pamilya, mga pari, sige nga!!!

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      “Bakit ba kasi kinokontra iyang RH bill na iyan e para sa kapakanan din iyan ng tao. Di ba iyan ay makakatulong sa mga magpa-pamilya na hindi kayang tustusan ang laki ng pamilya?”
      Maciadong malalim ang mga dahilan, caibigan. Hindi necesario na masambit ng “Mga pari, tumigil na kayo at wala kayong kamalay-malay sa pagpa-pamilya!!!” dahil más malalim pa ang mga dahilan. Hindi basta-bastang ganian lang. Mabuti lang na magtanong-tanong ca bago ca magbigay ng panghuhusga. Aco man minsan ay naguing anti-Católico. Ñgunit di cerrado ang pag-iisip co cagaya ng caramihan sa mga nagcocomento dito.

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