‘Waters rose so suddenly’

Winds so fierce add to loss of lives

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YES, WE HAVE NO BANANAS TODAY A mother and her daughter wash their clothes next to flattened banana trees at a plantation in Monte Vista town, Compostela Valley province, on Wednesday after Typhoon “Pablo” ravaged the province. Pablo destroyed 70 to 80 percent of plantations mostly bananas for export, said Gov. Arthur Uy. AFP

NEW BATAAN, Compostela Valley—Juniper Serato scanned the bodies lined up at the public gymnasium in this farming town that bore the brunt of  winds gusting up to 160 kilometers per hour when Typhoon “Pablo” made landfall in  eastern Mindanao before dawn on Tuesday.

Serato was looking for his family of six, including his parents, who were still missing a day after they experienced the fury of the first typhoon to hit the area in memory.

“I have difficulty recognizing the faces because they’re bloated,” he told this reporter. As he walked carefully he stopped by a familiar face, a friend. “I know him,” he said.

Gov. Arthur Uy of Compostela Valley said raging waters and mud from the mountains swept through school buildings, covered courts, town halls and health centers where residents had taken shelter.

“The waters came so suddenly and unexpectedly, and the winds were so fierce, that compounded the loss of lives and livelihood,” Uy told Reuters in a telephone interview.

He said water catchment basins for farms on top of the mountains gave way due to the torrential rains, sending down heavy volumes of water to the flatlands.

Damage to agriculture and infrastructure in Compostela Valley province could reach at least P4 billion, with the typhoon destroying 70-80 percent of plantations, mostly bananas for export, Uy said.

Around 245 people were still missing in New Bataan alone, Uy said, adding the area was initially cut off by roadblocks. Communications were down and power had yet to be restored in the area.

“The last thing my mother said was  ‘I love you,’” said Julius Rebucas, whose mother and brother were caught in flash floods in Compostela Valley.  “It’s sad because I no longer have a family.”

As of noon Wednesday, 79 bodies had been recovered in New Bataan, including four soldiers of the 66th Infantry Division, whose encampment set up by two platoons was washed away in flash floods ignited by Pablo as it swept ashore from the Pacific, where it emerged as “Bopha,” the international designation. Another 21 people were killed in Moncayo, also in Compostela Valley.

Official death toll: 274

All told, 216 people died, according to a count as of 4:30 p.m. by Inquirer reporters at the scene and accounts by municipal, civil defense and military officials.

Aside from the fatalities in New Bataan and Moncayo, there were also 110 deaths in Davao Oriental, two in Misamis Oriental, two in Misamis Occidental, one in Bukidnon and one in Cebu.

In Manila, the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) put the official death toll at 274 as of 7 p.m. The NDRRMC said another 279 people were missing and 339 injured.

The Philippine Army’s 10th Infantry Division said there were 224 reported dead in Compostela Valley and Davao Oriental as of 4 p.m. Wednesday.

The NDRRMC also said that 36,000 families—around 180,000 people—were in evacuation centers.

President Aquino on Wednesday sent Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas to the disaster zone to check on the extent of damage. He said P8 billion would be available for relief. Malacañang said Mr. Aquino himself was planning to visit the typhoon-hit provinces.

It was the second whammy to hit Mindanao, which Tropical Storm “Sendong” pummeled  leaving 1,500 people dead last year.

The Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration on Wednesday lifted storm signals in all but the provinces of Palawan, Oriental and Occidental Mindoro and Antique as the 16th typhoon of the season headed out into the West Philippine Sea.

Pablo weakened after it raked Central Mindanao and provinces in the southern section of the Visayas, sparing from damage beaches and dive resorts in northern Palawan Wednesday.

Col. Leopoldo Galon, spokesperson of the Eastern Mindanao Command, said soldiers from the 66th Infantry Division were in a temporary camp at Andap village, which was hit by flash floods on Tuesday morning. Two platoons, of about 40 soldiers, survived,  Galon said.

Maj. Gen. Ariel Bernardo, commander of the 10th Infantry Division, said two dozen people had been pulled out under layers of mud and were being treated in local hospitals.  Video showed dozens of bloodied survivors, their faces covered with thick cake of mud, at a shelter in the province.

Monster winds

In Davao Oriental, the Provincial Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (PDRRMC) recorded as of 3:30 a.m. Wednesday 110 people killed, including 59 in Cateel, and 31 in Baganga, where Pablo made its landfall from the Pacific, 15 in Boston and one each in Tarragona and Manay towns.

Senior Supt. Rommil Mitra, police chief of Davao Oriental, said most of those killed in Cateel and Boston towns were crushed by fallen trees, collapsed homes and flying debris.

“The winds were really very strong,” Mitra said. “I was told the force of the wind could even lift an Army truck loaded with troops from the ground.”

The towns of Baganga, Cateel and Boston have remained inaccessible because the Mandulog Bridge in Caraga town collapsed at the height of the storm.

Cateel wiped out

“There’s still no electricity there. The communication lines are still down,” Galon said.

“There are very few structures left standing in the town of Cateel,” Social Welfare Secretary Corazon Soliman told Agence France-Presse.

“We need to rush to these areas body bags, medicines, dry clothes and most importantly tents, because survivors are living out in the open after the typhoon blew away homes and rooftops,” she said.

“The bodies are left lying on the ground in the open in New Bataan and we don’t want to risk the spread of disease,” Soliman said.

In Misamis Oriental, two men  died when a tree fell on their houses in Salay and Lagonglong town, said Maricel Rivera, the provincial information officer.

Rivera also said 3,467 families moved to evacuation centers across the province’s 23 towns and two cities.

In Bukidnon, Valencia City Mayor Leandro Catarata said a child died after a coconut tree fell on him. Catarata also said two bridges were damaged by swollen rivers.

In Misamis Occidental, two persons died, according to Paul de Barras, PDRRMC officer. He said Jigger Ian Gamotin, 31, of Panaon town, and John Sumile Bonasil, 17, of Baliangao town, were hit by falling trees.

Search and rescue

Most of the affected areas remained isolated due to power outages, lack of communications and destroyed roads and bridges. Helicopters were ferrying troops in search and rescue operations.

Thousands of people remained in temporary shelter areas as local officials appealed for food, water and warm clothes for displaced families. Schools remained closed and dozens of domestic flights were suspended Wednesday. With reports from DJ Yap and Nikko Dizon in Manila; Nico Alconaba, Bobby Lagsa, Germelina Lacorte, Ryan D. Rosauro, Inquirer Mindanao; Redempto Anda and Maricar Cinco, Inquirer Southern Luzon; and AFP

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HOBWYYARRZRXY5L5XWNGVRSIZQ Joe

    Ironically, good things happen to bad people and very “bad things” happen to the nicest of people. Back in the Philippines, the nicest people I’ve ever met and grew up with are the ones who have the very least in life, the ones who struggle just to make ends meet. They may not have much financially but they make up for that is so many unique ways like the bayanihan. They are real, not fake and easy to understand. May the Lord guide them and give them strength in this very difficult times.

  • opinyonlangpo

    With such huge death toll, there is no denial that the government has not done enough to warn and evacuate the people. The weather bureau knew that it is a super typhoon and still did not asked the respective authorities to do forced evacuation specially to those uninformed people. I would love to see the government admit its mistake and take responsibility for the huge death toll. They won’t and they will blame the people or the system or maybe mother nature.

    • Mike_1974

      suck reckless conclusion. have you not read the article? the evacuation centers, themselves were washed away? how hard is that to understand? people where there, thinking they were safe and together with the soldiers suffered untimely death. 

      • opinyonlangpo

        Did they not know that it is a super typhoon? Did they not know how to prepare for a super typhoon? You want to justify for that mistake? Did they not know that it will do worse damage than Sendong? Okey blame it on God then because they were evacuated but the typhoon really was after them. No one can hide anyway from death, nowhere to hide – nice excuse and the administration needs spokesperson like that.

      • Mike_1974

        do you actually want me to respond to your questions point by point? your questions are not only very rudimentary but very stupid! your disqus name reflects not opinions but mere assassinations!

      • opinyonlangpo

        I don’t have to call you names to reply to your comment, everyday you can see that in the mirror. And yes, you are really talking about yourself, it suits you.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Hey Mr. Genius, people and survivors are clamoring for accountability, would you also call them very stupid as some of the victims were in your flimsy high risk evacuation center?  They say that your illegal logging is one reason for the deluge, what do yout think of that? Would you call them also very stupid? Pls. explain, brainy boy.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Being with a soldier in a hazardous area does not constitute a safe evacuation center, but genius like you think you can escape accountability. Somebody should be held responsible for negligence and how about the denuded mountains? You can say its God’s will, but no somebody must answer for unnecessarily high casualties.

      • Mike_1974

        You’re too presumptuous! They brought the evacuees (some or most) to the the evacuation center. How did you know that the evacuation center is not hazardous? Without the tragedy occurring first? If you knew it then, then why in heaven’s name did you not shout at the top of your voice and called the authorities that it is not safe? You are quick to blame and starts acting like a genius who thinks he lives in a perfect world!!!
        I never mentioned about God or god for which i dont believe in the first place! So that thing about God or god never came from me!!

      • opinyonlangpo

        Its not for me to know, its their job and its for them to know. I wonder why you are making it personal as it is an issue concerning government agencies up to the extent of calling names. And you pretend that they know it best and as if simply it is God’s will. Until now you are talking as the one who put them into that evacuation center. Mr. Genius, they could have minimized the death  if those agencies were not negligent, like the illegal logging, proper designation of hazardous areas,   . .  .

      • Mike_1974

        your first statement clearly reflects your holier-than-thou and better-than-thou attitude! I highly suggest that you re-check your history concerning typhoons that hit the country and then you can make your informed-conclusion. i just hope it will be a well-informed one. re-check what happen to compostela valley for the past few years and then draw your conclusion. google it up!!!!

      • opinyonlangpo

        OK never mind, the government agencies has done good. No illegal logging, the evacuation centers were very safe but what happened has happened and nobody is to blame about it. Hope that makes you happy now. We are not into history, we are into disaster preparation and government preparedness. They are innocent if that is what you insist.

      • Mike_1974

        such sarcasm!!!  i still stand by my first hand impression, that is “YOU ARE QUICK TO BLAME!!”  the fact of the matter is, disasters happen. even industrialized and first-world countries are no match to nature’s angst! im not happy with what happened, nor am I happy with these deaths. but dude, thousands deaths  to now few hundreds? that’s a big decrease. you want perfection? then wake up and smell the coffee!! get in touch with reality!! 

      • opinyonlangpo

        Just take time to read the other articles regarding the disaster and decide for yourself.

      • Mike_1974

        how about doing your own research and your first-hand informations and decide for yourself!!

    • catmanjohn

      It seems that more people died by going to these emergency shelters than those who stayed hunkered down. It reflects poor construction, and or planning by those in charge of evacuation. These issued must be addressed sooner rather than later, because typhoons will be sure to come again.

      • opinyonlangpo

        They should learn from that mistake. They should hire experts to train these rescue teams.

  • denzel_alfonso

    Last year ganyan na,next year ganyan ulit ang problema sa baha, flash floods but nothing will change. TULOY  PA RIN ANG ILLEGAL LOGGING! See you next yeear on same scebario.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

    My thought to those affected by the storm. Stay strong my Philippines

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/A3B5B7CAS25M3OSQSEBXPKDEIU zafirol

      Kadaming tao ang namatay you have time to make jokes. Idamay mo pa si GMA sa kababoyan mo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

        not sure what you mean?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/A3B5B7CAS25M3OSQSEBXPKDEIU zafirol

         Thanks for editing you post. Now we know kahit baboy yong pangalan mo, hindi baboy ang utak mo.

  • mon key

    Compostella Valley hosts the Gold Rush areas in Mt. Diwalwal. There is no news about casualties from those areas. Why? Pag-asa and the NDRRMC sent out warnings that Pablo would make landfall in Hinatuan, Surigao. Many officials did not heed the warnings because of their belief that their area is outside the typhoon belt. Davao Oriental and Compostella Valley have been hit hard. And will be hit hard again. Because these typhoons are the NEW NORMAL.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FPVUYCML46QCAJM5N2O4GNID24 tony

    there were more than enough warnings issued about the possible strength of the incoiming typhoon … so what did the governors/mayors/barangay cahirmen do – they must have been very busy with their jueteng and protection scams in their areas that they did not do their jobs! tapos ngayon maghahanap sila ng simpatya! mga bugok!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    It’s nothing new.  Such reason was the same reason gven during the past tragedies.

  • batangsulpok

    Habang hindi nako-kontrol ang illegal logging at mining sa Mindanao ay madadagdagan pa ang mga taong mamamatay dahil taon-taon ay maraming bagyong dumarating sa Pilipinas.  Noong araw ay Luzon lang ang sinasalanta ng bagyo pero ngayon, Visayas at Mindanao na dahil ang mga illegal loggers ay malalakas sa gobyerno, karamihan ay mga may puwesto ang may-ari o di kaya ay matataas na government officials ang mga protector kasi nalalagayan.

  • http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/168/c/c/china_11_05_12_philippine_protester_burning_fl_by_lightisi-d69enay.jpg marco antonio perez

     tingnan ko nga anong gagawin ni mar roxas rito, o kaya itong si binay?

  • DOUANE

    STOP ILLEGAL LOGGING IN MINDANAO.

    It is saddening that llegal logging abounds in Compostela Valley as well as in Davao Oriental and Agusan and Surigao provinces. The boundaries of these four provinces are known to be the hotbed of illegal logging activity, with some local gov’t officials involved.

    Sinabi ng magaling nating Environment Secretary na si Ramon Paje na may mga opisyales ng sinibak sa pwesto sa regional offices ng DENR sa Davao at Caraga, as part of continuing efforts in the pursuit of good governance in the department.

    DAW.

    Tinaggal lang sa pwesto nila ang DENR officials na sangkot sa illegal logging. Tapos kinasuhan, inimbestigahan. Tapos wala na. We never heard na may nangyari sa mga kaso nila. Remember, utos ni PNoy ang nationwide log ban na nagsimula halos dalawang taon na ang nakalipas.

    Bakit dyan sa New Bataan mismo, lantaran ang mga truck na puno ng troso? Magtataka ka lang na sa dami ng checkpoints ng DENR sa lugar, nakakalusot pa din ang mga truck na ‘to na may kargang troso. Yet Paje claims that the regional offices of the DENR in Eastern and Southern Mindanao continue to confiscate logs because of the moratorium.

    SINUNGALING.

    Is it safe to say na may bribery na nangyayari between the DENR officials and illegal loggers sa New Bataan? Is it also safe to say that BY NOW, firing the regional DENR officials has led us nowhere? Na dapat palitan na ang namumuno sa mga incompetent at corrupt na opisyales na ‘to na si Ramon Paje?

    • catmanjohn

      Politicians like Juan Ponce Enrile own logging companies that operate out of Mindanao. Whether his companies and that of his cronies contribute or benefit from illegal logging should be exposed and discussed. The devil is in the details.

  • paulmart

    It is time for Philippines to demand Aid from United Nations or from the Rich Nations since we are  always the one suffering from the effects of Climate Change. All these rich nations contribute to the Climate change.

    • dabu

       Before RP ask for outside help, it must first check and clean its own backyard. I’m sure the areas devastated lack the natural barriers that will prevent flash floods and mud slides.I’m talking about illegal loggings and kaingeros and lack of government concern.

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Kawawa naman kayo diyan na halos hindi pa nakaranas ng bagyo.

  • pablosantino

    its a sad christmas for them..:(

  • Kamatis Tomato

    One word, negligence. Those places were placed under signal number 3 almost 1 day before the typhoon made a landfall and although Hinatuan was the predicted center, the typhoon’s diameter covered almost all of Mindanao.  Surigao del Sur had no reported casualty in contrast to the its adjacent province Davao Oriental. It is all about preparation and trusting scientific data in governance and decision making.  The forecast may not be perfect but its accuracy is always better than all Madam Aurings combined. 

  • JustAThought9

    Even the richest of the nations(US-NJ) suffered from the same faith what more from this Island. There is no illegal logging in Hoboken, New York, New Jersey? The point is, from the science point of view, can we stop this storm from even forming. Everything start at a baby step…low pressure area/high pressure area… before they get bigger…can we just disperse it while it is still small?

  • el_latigo

    llegal logging once again is the main reason why flood waters rose so suddenly, so what else is new?

    Kalbuhin
    mo ba naman ang mga bundok ng mga punong dapat siyang sumisipsip sa
    tubig ulan! Kaya ayun! Rumaragasang pababa mula sa bundok hindi lang
    tubig ulan at mga bato kundi pati mga naglalakihang troso. Di lang
    magigiba ang mga bahay na dadaanan ng mga trosong ito kundi kikitil din
    ng daan-daang buhay. Ang mga tanong: Sino naman kayang illegal logger
    ang umubos ng mga puno sa mga bundok ng Campostela Valley, atbp? Para
    saan pa ang DENR kung saksakan ng inutil, kundi man corrupt ang mga
    tauhan nito,  ang ahensiya ng gobyernong ito? Maliwanag sa paulit-ulit
    na lang na trahedyang  ito na ang dahilan  ay: CORRUPTION all in capital
    letters.    
    At itaga ninyo sa bato, mauulit uli ang trahedyang ito dahil lamang sa iilang mga ganid at sakim  na mga makapangyarihang tao na nakikinabang sa indiscriminate illegal logging na naglipana sa bansang ito.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6DOQ2XTESCE4IABT3LPXXQ2RA Bong

    stunned… dumbfounded… helpless…PRAY!

  • chemist45

    So what happened in Compostela Valley just proved that Dr. Prisco D. Nilo  was right after all & his observation that PAGASA uses old instruments (until now) that brought severe damage in Manila during the height of storm Basyang causing his relief (or he was fired). And now the president seems to defend his PAGASA appointed people for the same mistake pero ang mga deaths in Compostela are ordinary people, and who cares?  Is that fair?

    • http://www.facebook.com/ed.elric.549 Ed Elric

      What mistake are you talking about dude? Wala namang mali sa forecast ah. The people of Northern and Eastern Mindanao and of South Visayas were just caught by surprise since they weren’t expecting Pablo to be that strong. Sheesh

  • speedstream2

    Let’s focus first on helping the typhoon victims with their immediate needs. This should be an all-hands on deck effort. It must be said however that what happened is a clear case of reaping the man-made whirlwind, due mainly to illegal logging, illegal mining, uncontrolled land use, to name a few aggravating practices. This is a tragic wake-up call, especially to local government units and other concerned entities who are so cavalier, so uncaring about matters concerning natural resources. As always, hindsight is 20/20. Unfortunately, it’s too late for the casualties – over 200 dead and counting.

    • superpilipinas

      Unfortunately, all hands on deck is being called for RH and not heavy killers like these.

  • Ordep1

    Nasaan ka ng kailangan kita Pedro Calungsod? Hoy gising mga Pinoy! Maling paniniwala = sobrang kalamidad!

    • Paitan

       sapul na sapol mo ka pedro1..sana limiin nating mabuti kung sino ang dapat luluhuran at  pag-alayan ng taimtim na panalangin. dapat sa IISANG DIYOS lamang..|Ang kalikasan ay di tulad ng tao na nakakapagsalita ngunit kayang ipadama sa atin ang galit sa paglapastangan natin sa kanya..ang masakit lang ay hindi ang mga mismong tao na may responsable ang napaparusahan kundi damay ang ilan nating kababayan na wala naman kinalaman..tulad ng mga batang halos wala pang kamalayan…..

  • superpilipinas

    Why are we focusing to much on things like RH when it is more worthwhile to do something to save much more lives everytime a typhoon comes.

    • Kamatis Tomato

      Una, kung may RH konti lang myembro ng pamilya. Mas may pera para pampagawa ng bahay na mas matibay na hindi basta nasisira ng bagyo katulad ng sa Batanes. Mas nakapagaral ang mga anak at malaki ang chance na maging OFW na rin kaya ligtas sa bagyo. Pangalawa, dapat bang titigil ang function ng national government everytime may bagyo? LGUs were warned. People were told to stay away from danger zones. But I am sure next year and in the future, these people already know what to do. Look at CDO and Iligan, how many people died from the flood? Nada. Mother nature taught them well.   

      • Guest

        @Kamatis isa ka ring sira tuktok ano? “Kung may RH Bill konti lang miyembro ng pamilya ” paano mo pinag-isipan yang logic mo na yan? Where is your Greymatter dude?

  • superpilipinas

    Dengue….baha….lindol…..ang mga nakakmatay ng marami…..

    ang priority ng gubyerno at ng ating administrasyon?…… RH!

    eh sino ba talaga ang pumapatay sa mga Pinoy.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

      Gusto ng kalikasan na bawasan ang mga tao dahil into ang sumisira sa kanya. Kung marami tayo, marami rin ang mamamatay. Noon panahon ng nitang at rufing konti lang ang namamatay dahil kunti pa tayo at hindi pa masyado sira ang kabundukan. Tayo ang may gawa sa mga kalamidad. Kund hindi pinutol yung mga kahoy at pinalitan ng banana at iba pang cash crops wala sanang flashflood. . .Walang kinalaman ang RH. . 

  • t2jr

    CDO has learned its lesson from Sendong, Now, it has zero casualty. Congratulations to the people of CDO. Lets hope that all of  us Pinoys will also learn from this crisis. God bless us all!

  • Frodo44444

    During Sedong, the Inquirer paired with the Red Cross to send aid to the affected people.I hope they do it again!  I want to help and do not know where to send anything.  ?

  • Paitan

    Ang kalikasan ay hindi tulad nating mga tao na nakakapagsalita kung tayo ay masaya,,malungkot o kaya ay galit,,ngunit may paraan ito kung paano iparating sa atin ang ganti niya sa paglapastangan ng ilang mga ganid sa pera nating kababayan..Tinatawagan ko ng pansin ang mga taong walang iniisip kundi mga sarili,, ituloy ninyo ang mga illegal na pagtotroso,,pagmimina ak kung ano ano pa at tiyak hindi malayong mangyari sa ating hinaharap na may mga lugar sa ating bansa ang mabubura sa mapa..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

      Nature has been and will always be since the creation of the universe.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

    bunga na ito ng pagiging santo kuno ni pedro

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

      Nature has always been and will always be since the creation of the universe. Walang kinalaman ang pagka santo ng isang tao sa mga calamities. Our physical bodies; good or bad, holy or unholy, are all subject to nature. The only difference is where the good and the bad, holy and unholy souls go after they die. Doon, wala ng bagyo. Walang mga kalamidad. Only eternal happiness or eternal damnation.

      • Paitan

        Sir rene, base din siguro ang opinyon mo sa mga nababasa mo. bigyan lng kita ng isang halimbawa sir, gumawa ka ng isang pader na konkreto..tama ang lahat ng fourmulang ginamit mo at napakatibay ang kinalabasan..ang pader na yan ay hindi basta basta mababago kahit lumipas ang mahabang panahon kahit daanan pa yan ng mga kalamidad…now, subukan mong kumuha ng maso at wala ka gagawin kundi masuhin oras oras,,ano kaya sa palagay mo ang mangyayari sa matatag na pader na ginawa mo? kaya sa aking palagay sir,,malaki ang kinalaman ng tao sa mga nararanasan nating resulta ng mga kalamidad na dumarating sa atin.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        I agree and you have a good point in preserving nature. But my point is, nature has been violent, more violent in the past even before mankind surfaced on this planet. Global warming and ice age are cycles in hundreds of thousands of years. Storms are just consequences of this cycle.

      • Paitan

         sir, kung base sa mga pagaaral sa larangan ng sensiya natin iuugnay ang ating usapan 101% na sumasangayon ako,subalit tanong ko lng sir ano kaya ang mga pangunahing dahilan kung bakit nagkaroon tayo ng climate change,,ng pagkabutas ng ating ozone layer na naging isa sa mga factor para unti unti ng malusaw ang mga nieve sa lahat ng sulok ng mundo..di kaya galing sangkatauhan din sir?
        ang paktuklas ng ibat ibang makabagong kagamitan,,ang walang habas na paglapastangan ng mga ilan sa ating kalikasan ay lalong nagpapadagdag upang mas matindi ang mga kalamidad na  ating mararanasan.
        kaya nga sir,,madalas ko rin mabasa ang mga komento ng ilang nakaranas na madalas magsabi ng ganito.”sa kaunaunahang pagkakataon ngayon lng nangyari sa amin ang ganito”
        ngayon sir,,ung nauna kong komento kanina na parran ng pagpaparamdam ng higit na makapangyarihan sa tao na IISANG DIYOS ay isang persona na paniniwala at sumangayon man kayo sa hindi, maraming talagang ganid sa materyal na bagay ang hindi na isinasaalang alang ang kapakanan ng nakakarami bastat mabundat lng ang kanilang bulsa at madagdagan pa lalo ang kaban ng kanilang yaman.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        To preserve our mother nature is noble. But to blame it all to mankind is a wild exaggeration. As I have said, Global warming and ice age are cycles in hundreds of thousands of years. Storms are just consequences of this cycle. And it is imperative that none of this present generation and the past thousand years have experienced the present climatic phenomenon.
         
        “The Mayan describes events spanning 26,000 years, divided into five earth cycles or Sun, beginning in the year 3114 BC and ending on Dec. 21, 2012. The calendar is based on the movements of the planets and climate changes and other heavenly activities like solar flares and eclipses of the sun and the moon. It does not talk about the end of the world.

        Since we are now on the fifth and last cycle, the planets will complete the alignment they did 26,000 years ago, and these calamities will bring about great changes on Earth. In other words, toward the fifth cycle, the Earth will be transformed.
         
        This is already happening. Have you not noticed there are more floods happening in places that did not have floods before? There are also more violent and more frequent solar flares or storms compared to previous years, as confirmed by Nasa. The polar ice caps are melting at an unprecedented rate that will bring about a dangerous rise of the ocean water levels.
         
        A recent study reported by Reuters News recently said, “Sea levels are rising faster than the UN predicted, threatening low-lying areas from Miami to the Maldives.”

        The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change study released in 2007 said, “seas could rise between 18-59 cm this century, not counting a possible acceleration of the melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets that could add more water to the oceans.” From ‘Inner Awareness’ article (Inquirer Dec. 6, 2012)

      • Paitan

         nakakapanlumong makita ang naghilirang mga bangkay,,at dito ulit makikita natin ang dalawang mukha ng ating mga kababayan..tulad ng maraming handang tumulong, sa abot kaya nilang pamamaraan..subalit nakakagalit kung tama ung isang nabasa ko sa isang komento dito kanina na ang ilang tulong ay hindi lubos na nakakarating sa mga dapat puntahan dahil na naman sa makasariling interes ng ilan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

         you shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.you shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation..( 2nd commandment )

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        You don’t understand fully what the second commandment is all about. God forbid us to worship idols. What is an Idol? It is a representation of a false god that is worshiped. But images representing the holiness of the true God is not forbidden. Even God himself commanded Moses to make 2 golden images of Cherubim, placed on top of the ark. Exodus 25:18-22. Have you not read the book of Joshua on how the Israelite leader and the elders prayed to God kneeling face down before the ark of the covenant until evening. Joshua 6:7

        Not all images are forbidden in the Second Commandment because if your interpretation is true, God himself was the one who violated first by commanding Moses to make a golden image of “anything from heaven” (Cherubim) and Joshua and the elders have sinned by kneeling face down before the ark of the Lord with the images of the two golden Cherubim.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

        It was Moses who was ordered by God to create two golden cherubs and not us! And it is us who are told by God not to create images or statues.
        An image remains an image, a statue remains a statue so long as we do not bow down, kneel or worship it. It only becomes an idol when we do the above mentioned acts.

        It is the Presence inside the ark whom the worshippers are kneeling with and NOT THE GOLDEN STATUES OF CHERUBS.
        These statues are also in kneeling position on top of the ark.

        After John the Baptist received the revelation an angel appeared before him and he kneeled down and worshipped the angel but the angel rebuked him saying, ” Do not do it! I am your fellow servant!”

        So did i misunderstand the Scriptures?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        John was rebuked because he mistakenly thought that the angel  he saw was God.

        //It is the Presence inside the ark whom the worshippers are kneeling with and NOT THE GOLDEN STATUES OF CHERUBS.//
        Joshua was kneeling face down before the ark, therefore he is also kneeling before a golden image of form from heaven, right? And what is the second commandment? “you shall NOT bow down to them”. So if there is no exemption,  Joshua have sinned, right?

        You said, “it is the presence inside the ark whom the worshipers are kneeling”. Question, what is inside the ark, God? or representation of the holiness of God.. Surely you would answer that the tablets of stones where the ten commandments is written is a representation of God. So therefore, there are “forms which are in heaven” as in the Cherubim, “forms on the earth” as in the tablets of stone that are exempted because they did not represent idols or false gods. They represents the holiness of the true God of which God himself did not forbid. Right? Question; The image of the Holy Child Jesus, is it a representation of an idol or false god? The answer is NO because it represents Jesus Christ as a child. Isaiah 9:6. Is the image worshiped? The answer is NO. It is only venerated as representation of the holiness of God just as Joshua did when he prayed kneeling face down before the ark of the Lord. Joshua 6:7

        It is your personal interpretation that’s off the true meaning of the commandment.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

        1)
        My friend you are accusing me of interpreting the Scripture of my own when in fact you are the one qouting that ” John the Baptist mistakenly thought it was an angel”.
        What you are saying is not written in that particular passage of the Scriptures thaT jOHN MISTAKENLY THOUGHT…( Revelation 22:8-9.)
        But to give you the benefit of the doubt, suppose that John mistakenly thought as you said that the angel was God, my question to you is :
        Was John so UNFAMILIAR or even so FORGETFUL of what  God looks like when in fact God appeared to him in the first chapters of revelation ????????
        2)
        You are saying that what is inside the ark was just a representation of God…  that is as you said, the tablets of stone. May i correct you? Inside the ark are : the two tablets of the ten commandments, the mannas, and God himself in the person of the Holy Spirit. again the Holy Spirit, not just a represention.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        So you’re saying that God, the creator of the universe – Omnipoptent, Omniscience, Omnipresence is confined in a box (ark) covered with the wings of two golden cherubs.

        God is a Spirit. Any material things related to God that can be perceived by the human senses cannot be God but representation of God. God cannot be confined to any place because God is Omnipresence.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

        “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshippers the Father seeks ” jn. 4:23

        in line with these verse shall we wordhip God the way the pagans do?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        So you’re saying that Joshua and the Israelites elders worship the true God like the pagans do. Right? The temple of Solomon is adorned with many statutes of Cherubs. And on this same temple that Jesus came to worship. Question; Is the temple of Solomon a pagan temple since it is adorned with statutes the same as the pagan temples of the greeks and romans also adorned with statutes of idols? If you say the temple of Solomon is not a pagan temple, then your interpretation in the second commandment is wrong.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

        If my interpretation is wrong i would not have kept these commandments. But if your interpretation is right, why would this command coudnt be found in the ten commandments of the RC? your church? IT is the 2nd commandment as per the Word of God but its nowhere in the ten commandments of the RC, your church. the second commandment of your church is the third in the Bible. (Exodus 20:3-17). thats a sad fact for you but i am just telling the truth. so the 2nd is omitted and the remaining is 9. then the ninth commandment is split into two and put it as ninth and tenth. all in all there are ten. a big WHY.. are they hiding something? before you comment please compare the bible and the doctrine of your church.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        This is my answer to your comment below;

        The Catholic Church did not omit any of the commandment of the Lord. If it was omitted by the mother church, then I would have no time explaining to you about the second commandment. I would have no knowledge on explaining about it at all.

      • bugoybanggers

        Tama na iyang BIBLIYA ninyo. Magaling kayo diba? Kaya isarili mo na lang iyan. Sa forum na ito wag ninyong gawing TANGA ang mga tao. Kayo naman talaga ang dahilan kaya nagkakaganito ang BANSA> mga bulok na paniniwala.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Ikaw, hindi kasali? Ipakita mo nga kung ano ang mga nagawa mo para sa bansa natin para maniwala akong hindi ka isa sa mga dahilan ng mga kapalpakan ng ating bansa.

    • bugoybanggers

      TUMAHIMIK KA! Wag kang mandamay sa mga paniniwala mo. Matagal ng sinasalanta ang PILIPINAS lalo na ang LUZON ng BAGYO! Mag isip ka! Dahil sa mga BUWAYANG taga LUZON kaya nadadamay ang MINDANAO hindi sa kung anong RELIGION! Bakit sigurado ka bang makaPUNTA ng LANGIT? Patunayan mo, magpakamatay ka at kausapin mo taga ligtas mo! Balik ka kapag may ibedensya ka.

  • zeroko

    Sayang ang change ni DILG ‘boss’ Roxas to show that he is in “control of the situation.”. All he has to do is to sent the Air Force Huey helicopters or our C-130 to provide relief to those inaccessible areas. Sayang, he miss the chance. What ever follows is to little too late. Ito naman si PNoy, bakit wala siya kahapon. Is he relying again with his subordinates? Wala!

  • zeroko

    Paano ngayon kung Presidente na si Roxas. Basta ba scratching his head ang mangyayari. Hintuan na niya ang press release. May spokeman naman siya. He should go there in Mindanao, on board the Huey helicopter, loaded with relief goods, e, di maganda sana ang imahe niya, instead of blah blah blah in the press. He he he. Joke lang.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Mas inuuna kasi ang RH, FOI, Pacquiao-Marquezkaysa airlift ng relief goods.

  • zeroko

    With a forecast of 200 plus wind, PNoy should have ordered Dinky donkey to have purchase millions worth of foodstuff and repack it days before the storm. Ang hirap, puro press release lang kayo, tapos “bandage remedy” ang gagawin ninyo. Our country is within the typhoon belt. We have already experience so many natural calamity, yet, our Chinese Dominated Government seems inept to remedy the problem. Puro press release lang ang ginagawa nila.

    Nasaan na ang thousands of water purification gadgets na donated by the AMERICANS in the landslides in Real, Quezon, typhoon Ondoy, etc. Ano? Nasa Divisoria na naman? Our Chinese Dominated Government should have kept inventory on these gadgets for future eventuality. Eh, ang tema, wala! The aftermath of calamities needs these water purification. O, gusto ba ninyong kumalat ang mga sakit. Likewise, nasaan ang mga portable electric generators na binigay ng AMERICA? Nasaan ang mga tents, mga mobile medical instruments? Nasa Divisoria na naman? Sayang! Believe it or not, several tons of donated Milk powders donated by AMERICA never reach the recipients. They are being sold in Divisoria by unscrupulous Chinese traders in connivance with our Chinese Dominated Government. Punto kayo sa Divisoria para maniwala kayo. Ang mga powdered milk na galing sa iba ibang bansa which was donated to us is in Divisoria, together with other goods. Definitely, there is a connivance between the DSWD, Red Cross, and other relief agencies to cheat the Filipino victims. These goods never reach them.

    When tons and tons of relief goods, majority were overflowing in the Ninoy International Airport, these relief goods were loaded in Air Force airplanes, but it never reach Baguio, when there was a strong earthquake there. Instead, the Air Force airplane load the relief goods and land it in BASA Airbase, thanks to our corrupt Generals. Hindi dumating sa Baguio ang portable generators, mga medical tents and gadgets, mga canned goods from Australia and America. They all were off loaded in Basa. Tapos, it travels by road to Divisoria. Sayang!

    Same thing happen in St. Bernard landslide in Southern Leyte. Instead of imported canned goods ang dumating sa Southern Leyte, only local canned goods arrived there. Some of them were stale. Tapos, dati, sa PUV lang nakasakay ang mga taga  Red Cross sa Maasin, Southern Leye, now they are using a top of the line SUV. hE HE HE! Only in the Philippines. H he he!

    • batangsulpok

      Kaya ayaw ng magpadala ng mga helicopters ang U.S. dahil nakakahalata na rin na inuuto ng Pilipinas sila, buti nga kasi ang yayabang, bakit di nila i-deploy ang mga biniling helicopters ng PAF?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

      Really? America donated tons of powdered milk? when? do you Philippine government policy on powdered milk?

      Do you know how America AID (assistance) works? America giving imported canned goods? saan mo nakuha to? show me a site nagbibigay ng imported na canned goods ang AMERICA

      or maybe you ask, how much AMERICA has given to these calamities. The British and Germans and Spain are quitely doing their assistance tahimik lang. Ang US, parang motor na 120 ang harurot.. 100 ang tunog, 20 ang takbo. clue–visit USAID website para makita mo ang assistance nila..

      make no mistake, US does help..but dont despise Filipinos simply becuase you want to gloat about it……hehehe

  • zeroko

    Sabi ni PNoy, “Let us stop finger pointing.” Eh, ang tema, as long as you are a public figure, the people has the right to demand efficiency, accountability  and  responsive government. Tax money namin yan, boy! Keep moving…………… and do something……

    Remember, people never forgets espacially in time of calamity. “Ano ba ang tinanggap mong tulong sa gobyerno?” Wala! He he he. Makakain ko ba ang mga press release? Hoy, gamitin ninyo ang AMERCAN DONATED HUEY helicopters. 

    He he he. Nasaan na kaya si lady Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago ngayon? Ganoon din ang Bayan Muna? O, galit kayo sa AMERIKANO, paano ngayon? Tikum na naman ang bibig ninyo, tapos pag lipas ng kalamidad, babanatan na naman ninyo ang AMERIKA? He he he. Itong mga pro-Chinese Legislator natin, talagang kahit na anong tulong ng AMERIKA, basta, galit parin sila sa Kano. Gusto nilang ibigay ang bansa natin sa China……….

    • batangsulpok

      Ngayon dapat magpakita ang mga senador at congressman pero nasaan sila, lalo na ang mga taga-Mindanao pero excuse kasi sila dahil manonood ng laban ni Pacquiao sa Las Vegas.

      • generalproblem

        ok wag nyo na kasi iboto uli..

  • zeroko

    Nuong typhoon Ondoy, ang foreign relief goods from so many countries were over flowing in the DSWD warehouse. Sabi ng head ng DSWD, wala raw silang paraan na ibigay ang relief goods. He he he. In spite of 10 of millions of dollars donated by international donors, and in cash, wala raw pambayad sa transportation. 

    And this was well documented in the facebook. There was a pictorial showing the foreign relief goods that has reach the roof of the DSWD warehouse. The are if I am not mistaken, five gigantic warehouse precisely to store the relief goods. Wala, Only in the Philippines.

    He he he. In the aftermath of the typhoon Mellnia in Bicol, thousands of tons of first class rice was donated by Vietnam, of all countries, yet, these first class rice were sold as commercial rice by again, DSWD. hE HEH. This is what we get for voting Chinese in our government. Wala na si Pinoy. Gutom!

    • batangsulpok

      Maraming yumayaman diyan sa mga relief goods tulad ng nangyari noong sumabog ang Mt. Pinatubo, may balita na maraming containers na damit ang pinadala sa Pilipinas mula dito sa U.S. pero di nakarating sa mga biktima kundi nag-umpisa ang Ukay-Ukay stores.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QTJMSYLUMOYTKDWNY2JC2EFQPQ URDUJA

         
        yes.
        Parang sa carangglan, nueva ecija daw dati, sabi nung kakilala ko. Yung mga
        imported na delata na denonate  ng
        foreign country pinalitan ng sardinas, taz a month later nakita ung mga
        canned goods sa mga tindahan ng pulitiko.

      • Yxon

        noong time ng pinatubo , marami nagbebenta sa Mindanao ng mga makakapal at tate na mga tuwalya.  mga disaster relief goods daw.   
        mga kabayan natin nakapwesto sa gov, ang itim na talaga mga buto, pati kababayan na nagsuffer na , kupitan pa.

    • Yxon

      ok?

      • 1GeorgeTolentino2

        Ang sabi niya kwal na si PINOY,  hindi Pnoy! Masyado ka naman mag-react. Naghahanap ka agad ng kasalanan sa nag post.

      • Yxon

        hindi naman…misunderstood lang…correction well taken

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

    tuwing nagmamdali na ipasa ang rh bill, nandiyan ang malakas na bagyo.  hindi natuto ang mga pro rh politicians natin.

    • Kamatis Tomato

      Di ba mas cruel yong iniisip mo kaysa sa epekto ng condom? Puede bang hayaang mamatay ng Dyos yong mga taong walang kinalaman sa pagpasa ng RH bill? Bakit hindi yong mga congressmen na sumusuporta nito if this is really an act of God?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

    i wish to enjoin all local government units, particularly the rich cities in metro manila, to forego their christmas party and donate the “programmed expenses” to the poor victims of typhoon pablo in mindanao, indeed that will be the true essence of christmas spirit in us. i shall pray for the eternal repose of the soul of all those who perished

    • Kamatis Tomato

      Yes and future christmas parties for flood control programs, example seawalls, river embankment, reforestation and for buying safe relocation sites for the poor. 

      • Frankfreud27

        And give the donations  to organizations that will take good care of the funds and not to politicians who were corrupt and will be used the funds for  their political ambitions. 

  • neilabarca

    Pagnababanggit ang Eastern Mindanao,  nasaisip na agad ng mga Pilipino ang LOGGING, MINING, DINASTIYA – TRAPO at INSURGENCY.
    Naningil lang ang INANG KALIKASAN,   kung sino ang hindi nagmamalasakit sa kanya (Inang Kalikasan) ay dadanas ng matinding GANTING AKSYON,  kung sino ang nagmamahal sa Inang Kalikasan, siya ay MABIBIYAYAAN at hindi dadanas ng dilubyo.  Ang nangyari sa Eastern Mindanao,  kumbinasyon ng MAN-MADE CALAMITY at ganting aksyon ng INANG KALIKASAN… Ganito lang natin maipapaliwanag ang trahedya.  

  • JaAb65

    oh kyong mga illegal loggers anong msasabi nyo sa nangyari sa mindanao? DENR, anong msasabi nyo sa nangyring to? taontaon nlang my gnito, and u cant deny the fact na my ksalanan din ang mga illegal loggers s pngyayaring to. mkonsensiya nman kyong mga hayop kyo!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    The hazard map of DENR could have warned the people in the area in case of strong rains and typhoons. They have been bragging about the hazard maps. Local officials could have done something to prevent multiple deaths. DENR has a lot to explain.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7PQXB4HHZB7KH4BXK7LJXGNOY Mike

       hazard mapping na naman..useless..kahit na anong gawin ng national govt, useless yun if hindi mangunguna ang local govt…
      look at New York, sino ba ang nag-desisyon ng full evac? yun city mayor nila at hindi si Obama..kasi yun ang main responsibility ng LOCAL GOVT, to decide kung ano ang nararapat sa kanyang nasasakupan, lalong-lalo n s oras ng sakuna..
      Dito sa nangyari, NATUTULOG ANG MAYOR at GOVERNOR..sana pwede silang sampahan ng kaso, NEGLIGENCE of duty

      • 1GeorgeTolentino2

        Ang problema, the hazard map of of Davao Del Norte shows that practically the whole of New Bataan & Bagangga are hazard areas prone to flooding and land slides. If you notice the accounts of the disaster, many victims died not in their homes but in schools, public buildings and other community shelters, meaning they did evacuate but to where?  So, does this mean that whole towns should be evacuated? this will need tremendous political will from the national government. But with the elections in a few months, I am not that optimistic.

      • rosaddiaq

         Yes, it had to be totally evacuated. If you look at Google map, the New Bataan town is only 1 km east of the main Agusan river and only 500 meters west of another river. One month of rainfall fell in 6 hours; it was bound to be flooded, just like the Cagayan de Oro river basin. Interestingly, the Mines bureau website has the landslide hazard map of the area but none for flooding. I wonder if the local authorities received advice from the DENR re flooding from storms which rarely pass thru southern Mindanao. Hindsight is always 20/20 but now we know that similar river basins throughout the country should be evacuated from now on.

      • generalproblem

        alam nila yan kaso ayaw nila gawin kasi mawawalan sila ng botante sa election. gusto nila madami mamatay para kunyari dadamay sila pogin points ika nga.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

        Mr Johny Ponce Enrile.. kamusta naman ang logging natin sa Agusan..aba matagal ka na naandyan a.. panahon pa ng Martial Law yung mill ng mga troso mo dyan sa Masau/Magallanes sa agusan..

        oo nga pala.. tatakbo pala ang anak mo si Jackie Enrile sa pagka Senador.. wag kang mag alala di ko yan makalimutan, tuwing makita ko sa comval ang kalbong kabundukan at ang puno ng putik na walang buhay na bata sa daan…

      • generalproblem

        yes the whole town should be no mans land. hindi dapat tirhan ng tao yan kundi dapat yan ay mga taniman lang o pastolan. catch basin sya eh kaya talagng babahain sya pag naulan. nung araw walang problema kasi di umaabot ang bagyo sa mindanao eh ngayon sila na ang puntirya hehehhe pahinga naman daw ang luzon. dati mga taga mindanao pakuya kuyakoy lang eh ngayon maghanda na kayo at kayo naman daw tagilid na kasi mundo ngayon unang una pwede na magpakasal ang babae sa babae ang lalaki sa lalaki at pwede pa mag sex ng baliktaran din yan kaya pati mundo nabaliktad na 

  • virgoyap

    It’s catastrophic and a very sad event. People should learn a lesson next time like what happen to Iligan and Cagayan de Oro where there was a zero casualty.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    This will happen again and again, unless we will protect our forest. No more land conversion, no more encroachment of our forest areas. People in the mountain should go back to the lowlands and establish a buffer zone to protect urban and settlement areas. . 

    Sobra na kasi ang population natin, kundi magsiksikan sa ciudad at maging squatters ang iba naman pumupunta sa bundok at nagkaingin. . 

  • PH2011

    PAGASA is already doing its part.

    To provide the Filipino people more
    or less accurate forecast & warnings.

    However, there’s still a shortfall, the
    big lost of lives during typhoons can be attributed to the following;

    1.    
    Flash floods,  particularly to those people living near the
    estuaries ( e.g. CDO 2011, Ormoc -80s?)

    2.     
    Erosions/ Cave in ( e.g Compostela
    2012)

    3.     
    Fishing or sea travels at the height
    of the typhoon ( e.g MV Princes..2009?)

    The people can evade the strong wind,
    the abovementioned likewise  can be easily avoided
    if the local government and other attached agencies will work hand and hand to
    implement the necessary warnings and precautions provided by PAGASA. The 3rd
    , (depending on the typhoon signal) a no-sea travel /fishing advisory should be
    continuously imposed by the coast guards/MARINA, and other attached agencies.

    While the 1st and 2nd
    , the local government involve should provide the necessary warnings,
    precaution & anticipated/force evacuations ( if necessary ) for the high
    risk areas. Well, technically people can easily identify the risk areas; cut
    and/or developed mountains utilized for property development should be properly
    monitored for possible erosions/cave-in. Residential areas with previous and/ or
    on-going Minings and  (Illegal) loggings
    activities in the vicinity are also to be considered as high risk areas. Estuaries
    are located at the mouth of the river in between seashore. Twice the country already
    experienced a flash floods tragedy (with more than a thousand deaths) in (
    Ormoc and CDO) in the same particular spot.

    These are all considered high risk
    area during the typhoon, anticipated or force evacuation should be implemented
    by the LGU’s/NGO/PNP, DSWD and NDCC.

    Act before the typhoon, not after
    the typhoon. Prevention is better than cure, well death has no cure. While CNN (
    not PAGASA, still a shortfall) forecasted a tragedy before the typhoon hit
    Mindanao/central Visaya, I remember the forecaster was so worried since the
    super typhoon will hit Mindanao island which is  located near the equator. A very UNUSUAL PATH, they saw and predicted the worst scenario, the people of Mindanao are not well prepared……unfortunately, we did not.
    UNLIKE, earthquake a typhoon was
    forecasted days ahead by PAGASA. Twenty (20) average typhoons hit our country
    yearly. The government has ample time to prepare for 2013 and beyond.

     
    My heart and sympathy to the people of
    Compostela.

    • generalproblem

      tingin ko yan na rin ang sagot sa rh bill. pwede na nilang wag ipasa yan anyway inuubos na naman ng mga calamity ang mga pinoy. may baha, landslide at lindol at may tsunami pa. ngayon ang baguio dami na uling tao at squatter halos wala nang pine tree at nag tayo pa ng sm. ako eh naniniwala na lilindulin uli yan dahil hindi na kaya ng baguio ang daming tao.

  • $18209031

    Ayan ang mga sinyas na mga panahon ngayon ay mas grabe na. Remember the time when Mt Pinatubo erupted, it wiped out the Pampanga and Zambales regions in a single day. Mga kasalanan nyo , mag dasal na kay Santo Calungsod ang ating pag asa ng bayan.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    mga satanista na kasi ang mga tao ngaun…

    ung mga mali ginagawang tama…like the RH bill..like homosexuality…like divorce…like pre marital sex….

    brace for more hangang sa magising itong mga satanistang tao…

    just imagine, 70% of filipinos favor rh…tsk tsk tsk

    • http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/168/c/c/china_11_05_12_philippine_protester_burning_fl_by_lightisi-d69enay.jpg marco antonio perez

      well, the popes in the dark ages of history were the devils incarnate.  so there is no basis for you to say that it’s less or more worse now than it was before.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7PQXB4HHZB7KH4BXK7LJXGNOY Mike

    pwede bang mag-pasa ng batas or revise natin yun loca govt code “stating that people has the right to file a case, criminal and administrative to the barangay captain,city/town mayor and governor, depending how severe the casualty cause by the calamities especially typhoon..in the event of fire, it should be barangay captain or district or safety engr ang kakasuhan..I believe this way, they will be responsible enough to over see and perform  their job

  • bugoybanggers

    Dahil sa gahaman at walang tigil ng pag exploit sa kagubatan. Isisi ninyo sa mga BUWAYA ng LUZON na siyang dahilan sa pagkaubos ng kagubatan. Alam naman natin iyan noong dekada 50 hanggang 70, maraming logging firm ang nagwasak ng kagubatan sa may eastern Mindanao dala ng kasakiman sa pera. Ang yayabang pa nga noon ng mga LOLO na ngayon (ang iba nilamon na ng LUPA). Kamo pila BARKO ang Davao Gulf sa pagkakarga ng mga troso galing sa kabundokan. Ika nga nasaan na ba ang pinagBILHANg kita? Nakatulong ba kamo sa pag unlad ng lugar habang naKALBO na? Ayun naman pala, nasa MAKATI ipinag patayo ng gusali (para sikat ang METRO MANILA sa panglasa ng mga TAGALOG). Pera ng Mindanao napunta sa METRO MANILA! Nang maubos na ang mga matitibay na kahoy, pinagpilitan pa ang mga tao na magTANIM ng NIYOG at SAGING para pang export din. Yun ang dahilan kung bakit ang mga tao ay nainganyong manirahan at mamuhay sa lugar na iyan (na alam nila na delikado na). Ang masaklap pa, ang puno ng NIYOG at mga saging ay hindi makakapigil sa pagLAMBOT ng lupa. Kaya nga nagkakaroon ng FLASH FLOOD dahil yung mga itinanim ay hindi mga PUNONG pang pigil sa lupa na madaling palambutin ng ULAN. Ngayon kayong mga taga LUZON sasabihin ninyo na mga bobo ang mga tagaMINDANAO bakit hindi inalam ang resulta o ang panganib manirahan sa LUGAR na iyan? Sa totoo lang KAYUNG MGA TAGA LUZON ANG SUMIRA SA MINDANAO. Makikita namin na sana LAMUNIN ng MANILA BAY at LAGUNA BAY ang METRO MANILA para mamuhay ang mga TUNAY na BUWAYA ng BAYAN. Viva Mindanao, bangun MINDANAO

    • Paitan

       kapatid..wag naman KAYO…ILAN lng naman sa taga dito sa LUZON..parang may kilala din akon..at tama ka ..tamang tama,,kailan kaya tamaan ng kidlat ang mga kumag na mga yon!!!!!!

  • joboni96

    let’s help the victims

    and prepare for future calamities
    maghanda – magtago – magayos

    1. practical lessons in elementary school
    2. training in neighborhoods
    3. mindset of old independent rural pilipinos 1920s

    huwag gayahin mga taga haiti
    nakaupo lang at naghihintay ng abuloy

    go out and start fixing your place

    dito kailangan ng food for work

  • neilabarca

    TRAHEDYA na naman ule…Nakakapanglupaypay.   Sa tingin ko  “ganting
    action na lamang ito ng INANG KALIKASAN (Mother Nature) sa kawalang malasakit at
    paglapastangan ng mapagsamantalang TAO sa KALIKASAN. 

     

    Sa
    tuwing nababanggit ang Eastern at Central Mindanao,  papasok sa isipan ng mga Pilipino ay LOGGING
    (LOGGING CONCESSION), MINING,  Dynasty / Oligarchy,  bad local governments at  INSURGENCY. 
    Napaka-VULNERABLE ang lugar at ang GNP per capita income ng lugar ay
    mahahalintulad mo sa bansang magugulo (weak state) sa Africa at Afghanistan.

     

    Walang
    dudang man-made calamity ang pangunahin salarin.    NANINGIL ang MOTHER NATURE  sa ilang dekadang pananalaula ng KALIKASAN ng
    mga masisiba, ganid  at  opportunistang paghahari ng powerful local
    elite (sa  kalikasan).  

     

    Naalala
    ko ang isang Pinoy rock group na WUDs sa kanilang awit na….”AT NAKALIMUTAN
    ang DIYOS.”

  • neilabarca

    TRAHEDYA na naman ule…Nakakapanglupaypay.   Sa tingin ko  “ganting action na lamang ito ng INANG KALIKASAN (Mother Nature) sa kawalang malasakit at paglapastangan ng mapagsamantalang TAO sa KALIKASAN. 
     
    Sa tuwing nababanggit ang Eastern at Central Mindanao,  papasok sa isipan ng mga Pilipino ay LOGGING (LOGGING CONCESSION), MINING,  Dynasty / Oligarchy,  bad local governments at  INSURGENCY.  Napaka-VULNERABLE ang lugar at ang GNP per capita income ng lugar ay mahahalintulad mo sa bansang magugulo (weak state) sa Africa at Afghanistan.
     
    Walang dudang man-made calamity ang pangunahin salarin.    NANINGIL ang MOTHER NATURE  sa ilang dekadang pananalaula ng KALIKASAN ng mga masisiba, ganid  at  opportunistang paghahari ng powerful local elite (sa  kalikasan).  
     
    Naalala ko ang isang Pinoy rock group na WUDs sa kanilang awit na….”AT NAKALIMUTAN ang DIYOS.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2H52TOW7P7RAWOOXTOLNXEPEZ4 Andy

    But when you have bad governance, of course, these resources are destroyed: The forest are deforested, there is illegal logging, there is soil erosion. I got pulled deeper and deeper and saw these issues become linked to governance, to corruption, to dictatorship.—-Wangari Maatai

  • hkpnay

    hindi ito first time na nangyari sa ComVal , ano ba ang dahilan ng flash floods, maybe govt should start with that, proactively to prevent future casualties na tao ang may gawa…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    ….such a tragedy
    …a mountain without a tree   
    loggers mansions so tall and free
    .…water, mud and lifeless child   
    loggers, in thick walls and tinted glass
    …and still, chainsaw cuts the smile        
    from the face of the innocent child.

  • Mananandata69

    Dapat may managot kung sino ang responsible sa  pagkaroon ng flash floods. Imbestigahan. Nature is not the cause. Gawa ng tao yan kaya nagkaganyan.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/hbRkpPw1oYTBJamz.EH7acMZBBVoIlWXriA-#e4348 Felix

    Nakakalungkot talaga. Sana lang maging matatag ang kalooban at isipan ng mga tao lalo na ang mga nawalan ng mga mahal sa buhay upang makayanan ang sakit na kanilang nararansan at muling makabangon sa lalong madaling panahon.

  • bicolokano

    :(  paano naging “unexpected” ang pagtaas ng tubig?  anu ba yang governor na yan..  halos 1 week ang babala at preparation para kay pablo… tsk tsk tsk.. 

    • generalproblem

      dapat siguro dyan ilagay yung opisina ng gov sa dadaanan ng tubig baha pati yung opisina ng pulis at denr. Para matakot sila at wag pabayaan na makalbo ang bundok

  • msm25

    to illegal loggers…MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR PO…sumaya po sana kayo ngayong pasko at mgbalik-tanaw po kayong lahat sa ginawa niyo sa kapwa niyo sa taong lumipas…god bless you!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q2OTHRY3DREIMJMK4VXT6UIPSA salvation phils

    You are right, MSM25. to all Politician illegal loggers may the souls of all victims haunts you down.

    • bugoybanggers

      NEGOSYANTE!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGVHDQT7JEE4WDAWZFAZDNTFCU dominador

    We were here (NEW BATAAN, DAVAO DEL NORTE) for five years 1974-1979, such TRAGEDY NEVER HAPPENED.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      Forest still existing, the only differences,

      The today forest are Mansions and luxury cars, 
      to balance uneducated loggers, inhabited by bad faith and brutality,
      perspiring death and corruption.

      • bugoybanggers

        Nasa MAKATI at buong isla ng LUZON!

    • bugoybanggers

      may kapiranggot pang natirang PUNO sa panahon na iyan. Kita mo naman di ba? Ano na ang resulta paglipas ng 80’s kalbo na! Kaya nga silang mga Negosyante din ang nag ingganyo sa mga dating LOGGERS na magtanim ng NIYOG at SAGING para pang EXPORT! Hindi inisip ng mga NEGOSYANTE na ang SAGING at NIYOG ay hindi makakatulong sa pangharang sa paglambot ng LUPA kapag may ulan. Naipon ang bagsik ng kalikasan at sama ng loob sa mga tao pero ang mga TUNAY na may sala NASA MANILA, MAKATI o sa buong LUZON! Kawawa ang mga local.

  • Yxon

    really , the weather had gone wild.  these places (Cateel, Bangaga, New Bataan) had never before experienced a typhoon.  there should now be a serious review and evaluation of each of disaster preparedness of all municipalities (not just something to hide which in reality could be flooded.).  a plan to follow in case of disaster that may come. this shall include equipment, routes, assembly areas, shelters, leaders, asignments. and this should be well comprehended by the populace.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Logger’s should be proud of their nefarious activities,

    an so expensive way to make a fortune,

    deserving to be eaten fresh alive by the Crocodiles

    • bugoybanggers

      Yung namumuhunan sa mga LOGGERS. Ang Loggers, trabahante lang iyan, kung ano ang utos o ang sinabi ng amo niya susundin niya! Ang sisihin yung mga negosyanteng taga MANILA na ang kita sa pinagbilhan ng troso ay ipinagpatayo ng magagarang bahay sa forbes at gusali sa MAKATI. Usisihin ninyo kung sino sinong pamilya ang may hawak ng LOGGING FIRMS sa MINDANAO noong dekada 50 hanggang 70. Tanong ninyo sa mga mamumutol ng PUNO kung sino ang amo nila at taga SAAN.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Dacon company, own by Consunji, Makati biggest owner,
        erased every Sultan Kudarat rain forest with ethnic cleansing
        (mass Murder) to satisfy an unlimited greed, 
        one of the world biggest criminal, an “elites” product, proudness and leader !

        He is an excellent example of Philippines plague,
        more you kill and steal, more respected you are,
        admired and pampered by the Churches hopping to become accomplice,
        with patronage expectation.
         
        No words existing to qualify such a disgusting culture,
        a left over mentality inherited from the Conquistadors tragedy,
        a human absolute shame with Inquisition.

        This is the main explanation of Philippines backwardness Disaster ,
        a permanent rubbery with plentiful atrocities.

      • mark_john21

        Not only in Sultan Kudarat.  In Sirawai, Zamboanga del Norte, many villagers were also eliminated by Consunji thugs so that no one could prevent them from illegal logging.

        Paging Senator Loren Legarda. Why are you so silent on this issue? This has been going on for so long!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/STUNX2HEVC6X7UHBZ5AOM65Q2M Teven

    Why don’t you blame it to China ? fools !

  • troyg318

    illegal mining and  logging is one of the biggest factor why these area are devastated since they don’t have any trees to prevent the water rushing down from the mountains and resulting to soil erosion and landslide. innocent lives payed for the greediness of the few.

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