‘Time for RH bill showdown’

President to meet lawmakers at Palace

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President Benigno Aquino III. AFP FILE PHOTO

The time has come to put the reproductive health (RH) bill to a vote, Malacañang officials and lawmakers supporting the measure said Sunday.

“We can’t leave it hanging,” Transportation Secretary Joseph E.A. Abaya, a former lawmaker, said on the eve of a meeting with lawmakers led by Speaker Feliciano Belmonte Jr. and Liberal Party (LP) leaders that President Aquino is presiding over at the Palace to muster support for the passage of the bill.

Abaya, LP executive vice president, said the House of Representatives had reached a stage where the bill “should be put to a vote.”

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago said it was time for a showdown.

“Rich or poor, Filipinos want the RH bill. We should do head-butting now,” said Santiago, cosponsor of the bill in the Senate, which would to provide women, especially the poor, access to different forms of contraception so they can plan the size of their families.

She said she was confident of winning the showdown. She counted 13 senators in favor of the measure, one head short of the 14 that Sen. Panfilo Lacson, one of those who filed a bill on RH, earlier announced.

She reminded politicians to be sensitive to public opinion and realize that as many as 80 percent of respondents in surveys on the RH bill favored its approval.

 

Best before Dec. 21

The best time to vote on the bill is before Congress adjourns on Dec. 21 for the holidays, otherwise it would be too late, said Secretary Manuel Mamba, head of the Presidential Legislative Liaison Office (PLLO).

Mamba said there would be just a few weeks of sessions next year before the campaign for the midterm elections in May 2013 went into high gear in February.

He said the President was making a final pitch to members of the House to show up and vote on the measure before the holiday season.

Majority and minority leaders, leaders of the LP, Nacionalista Party, and Nationalist People’s Coalition and National Unity Party (formerly Kampi), and most of the House members are expected to turn up at the meeting in Malacañang at noon today.

All lawmakers were invited, according to Mamba.

He said Mr. Aquino would put forward one request: Show up at plenary deliberations, produce a quorum and vote on the measure.

“That’s the compromise I’m expecting. Vote on it, however it goes,” Mamba said by phone.

“He (the President) will ask them that they should be there so that there will be a quorum and that they can vote on it. They can’t just archive it and decide later on. When is that going to happen again?” the PLLO chief said.

For weeks, the House had failed to introduce amendments to the bill in plenary due to a lack of quorum, no thanks to absentee lawmakers, mostly administration allies. “Even the coauthors have disappeared,” Mamba said.

Substitute bill

When it finally mustered a quorum last week, the chamber accepted a “substitute bill”—House Bill No. 4244—that purportedly incorporated all the amendments.

The new version gives priority to the poor in the provision of birth control methods and bans contraceptives that prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum, as this is considered abortion by the Catholic Church.

On Saturday, the President attended a thanksgiving Mass for the elevation of Manila Archbishop Luis “Chito” Tagle to the College of Cardinals in what was seen as a “thawing of relations” between the state and the Church.

The meeting, however, hardly made a dent on the President’s position on the bill, which is fiercely opposed by the Church for purportedly promoting use of contraceptives and abortion.

“You know, I disagree that there was a change of heart. That has always been his position. The President is pro-RP—responsible parenthood—but he’s always maintained that it should be voted according to your conscience,” the President’s deputy spokesperson, Abigail Valte, said over government-run radio.

The President’s attendance at Tagle’s Mass showed that “men of principle can have disagreements on certain issues but they can still break bread together,” Valte said.

Monday’s meeting in Malacañang may be the President’s final chance to make a personal appeal to the 287-member House to vote on the RH bill.

“He has always told them that they’re leaders, and as leaders, they should lead their people,” Mamba said.

Abaya agreed. “For such an important bill, I think the President wants to be involved to make his message clear on what his guidance and policy direction is, not only to Liberal Party but [also] to other supporters,” he said by phone.

“I’m sure some are confused. So it greatly helps if he comes forward and makes a statement. It erases all [doubts],” Abaya added.

Mamba, whose office acts as the middleman between the executive branch and Congress, said he was “optimistic about the outcome.”

He recalled that lawmakers overwhelmingly voted to terminate debates on the RH bill after emerging from the Aug. 5 meeting with the President.

“Yes, that can be put to a vote,” Mamba added, referring to the substitute bill which he said was acceptable to Malacañang. “After all, the President has always told them that ‘we will implement whatever you pass.’”

Abaya said “every inch” would be a battle from now on, but added that there was “still a shot at approval” before Congress adjourns this month.

Should it come to voting, Mamba himself wasn’t confident that the bill would breeze through approval.

“It could go either way,” he said, admitting that pro-RH lawmakers enjoyed a “slim margin” over their anti-RH colleagues.

The bill is a priority measure but it has not been certified as urgent by the President.

Mamba said the President would certify a measure as urgent if it was certain that it would be passed on second and third reading on the same day. “It’s useless to certify it as urgent if there is no quorum,” he said.

Ifugao Rep. Teddy Baguilat, an LP deputy spokesperson, said Mr. Aquino was expected to call on lawmakers to vote on the bill, but was not inclined to dictate on lawmakers which side to choose.

But one opponent of the measure, Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez, said that if Malacañang forced a vote on the bill immediately after the meeting, without completing the period of amendments, it would “strain relations between the Catholic Church and the President.”

Rodriguez has begged off from attending the Palace meeting, saying he won’t be swayed into changing his position on the bill.

Modified bill

Baguilat said proponents of the measure had already modified the original reproductive health bill to address the concerns of bishops.

He believed that while the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines would continue to oppose the passage of the bill, there were prelates who softened their stance on the measure.

“Privately, many bishops are comfortable with the language of the substitute bill,” he said.

Asked to explain her confidence that pro-RH legislators would win, Santiago said: “Apart of course from a politician’s concerns, the first consideration in the real world is how many voters want the RH bill? If that is what the voter wants, why go against the one who has power to determine whether he or she remains senator or congressman?”

“If anyone calls for a vote, we already have 13,” Santiago said in a radio interview.

Besides, the RH bill had already languished for 15 years in Congress. Surely, it would be unimaginable for lawmakers “to let it die of old age,” she said.

Originally posted: 10:42 pm | Sunday, December 2nd, 2012

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZUGKMNYSK2ZSSS4B2LVNDWP5XM lagalag

    YES…..YES…..YES….YES. TO RH BILL

    • boybakal

       NO !!!! NO !!!!!NO !!!! to RH BILL.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T2BPPGLG457K5BUPQBPOKDPA4 Marlon

    RH BILL NOW NA!!!

  • notcreepy

    The advocates of the RH Bill make the unspoken assumption that the government has the RIGHT to provide the people with access to information. Fixed that for you.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    GO RH BILL!!!!!

  • garcia677

    VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYETH THE LORD AGAINST THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO DEFY HIS WORDS. GO YE MULTIPLY AND FILL THE EARTH WERE HIS WORDS ON THE 6TH DAY OF CREATION YET STILL THERE ARE MANY WHO ARE IMPRUDENT AND PERSEVERING TO OPPOSE HIM

    • muddygoose

      We already filled the Earth. Even if the entire human population is halved, we’ve already filled it. 

      What you should worry about is the pace by which we are multiplying and killing this planet–doesn’t the bible mention something about humanity being the guardian of this planet? Do you really want to continue breeding like rabbits and sucking life away from this planet? Do you really want to continue all the resource extraction and the pollution from activities needed to sustain the massive human population?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        God’s command to fill the earth was in the Old Testament when people were still very few.  Even if we base it on the Book of Genesis teaching us to fill the earth, God also commands us to subdue it meaning to control or overcome.  That’s what the Catholic Church doesn’t want us to know.

  • tamumd

    Thanks Mr. President. Some of our lawmakers need nudging coz they’re intent in hijacking the legislative process. The RH bill should be voted on ASAP. We don’t care if it gets passed or not. We just want to end this drawn out, rancorous saga.

  • tamumd

    Where and when did our government legislate to DENY the life of the unborn Filipinos? Provide evidence!

    Population growth is only a positive factor to the economy if it’s sustainable. The kids that are born in abject poverty without proper education cannot contribute to your dreamed up free market. They don’t have any buying power. They don’t have any technical skills that are prerequisite to gainful employment locally and abroad.

    Everyone recognizes the pervasive corruption in our society but we can solve all those other problems simultaneously and not be weighed down by a piece meal approach.Funny how you accuse the “ruling elites” having vested interest. Do you think the catholic church don’t have vested interest in perpetuating poverty and ignorance so that it could continue to fool and deceive people to doing whatever it want them to do and believe? After all the church won’t survive if suddenly those poor naive followers would stop going to church and quit giving their hard-earned cash to the church.

    I suggest that if the RH bill gets passed and you have an unequivocal evidence that some lawmakers are profitting from the bill to file a corruption suit so that we could get rid of them too! Until then your conspiracy theory is just an opinion without any sound basis whatsoever.

    • James

      Most people who are pro RH like you are quick to assume that followers of the Catholic faith are all poor, uneducated, ignorant and stupid. There are a lot of people who will prove you wrong. 

      What made you think that the Church relies on the what you call “poor naive followers” who “would stop going to Church and quit giving their hard-earned cash”? And do you think majority of the people who goes to church are poor?

      Also, you are eating your own words. You said that, indeed “population growth is only a positive factor to the economy if it’s sustainable.” So why RH bill? Why do you try to do a first aid when we can do something that would solve the problem for the long term? Why not improve our education system? Why not teach those kids born in poverty the technical skills they need so that they can have the buying power and make our country rich?

      • tamumd

        I didn’t say ALL catholic followers are poor and educated. You are the one who said that.  But the majority definitely belong to that strata of our society. You bet the church depend on these poor majority. Even if they only give a few pesos every time they go to church because there are millions of them…that translate to a huge sum of money. Don’t tell me there are 1 million Ayalas and Sys that donate to the church on a regular basis. Nope.

        How am I eating my own words when I qualified it and made a caveat at the end of that statement…when I said  “if it’s SUSTAINABLE”. What did you not understand there? It means to have a population growth that our government can possibly afford to support humanely. No one is saying to stop having babies all together. We can do that by letting every family and individuals decide on their own…as far as family size is concern just as long as every child born is well provided with food, shelter, clothing, health and education.One of the many ways to address that is the RH bill. This bill is definitely not a first aid remedy that you like to portray it to be.  It is definitely a long term solution coz the effect of this would be felt 10-20 years down the road and not next year. The government is already working on improving education. it’s trying hard to cope up with the perpetual classroom and textbook shortages. It is helping the poor have some capital via the conditional cash transfer. The catholic church on the other hand who opposes all these measures don’t do much enough to educate the poor. I would side with the church to scrap the RH bill all together if it decides to open 50% of all its schools’ enrollment from elementary to college to indigent students. Open 50% of their private hospital beds to poor citizens. Until then….it’s only all noise and empty rhetorics bordering obstructionism and deserved to be ignored!

      • James

        It’s easy to hate what you don’t understand.

        People like you would just repeat the rhetoric that the Catholic Church is not doing anything to help alleviate sufferings of the poor. But the fact is, it is the Catholic Church who has the wide network of orphanages, of leprosy centers, of charitable institutions. Care to google Hospicio de San JOse, and all other congregations with orphanages and home for the aged. These institutions do not publicize themselves. You are funny to point a finger on the Catholic Church, how about you? What did you do to help others?

      • tamumd

        I didn’t say the catholic church is NOT doing ANYTHING to help….they are not doing ENOUGH given their vociferous objection to government measures like the RH bill. If they want to continue the status quo of runaway population growth. They should open 50% of the enrollment in their private school from elementary to college to poor students. They should also devote 50% of the hospital beds in their hospitals for indigent patients. If that happens maybe we should just abandon the RH bill.

        As for me and my family sorry to disappoint you but we regularly donate to the Red Cross, Doctors without Borders and UNICEF. I volunteer in medical missions on a regular basis.My family still give money to your church everytime they go.  What have you done?

      • James

        “They are not doing ENOUGH given their vociferous objection to government measures like the RH bill.”
        Is that for you to decide? All you say is to open up 50%… UP is subsidized by people’s taxes and it’s still not enough. Students who are do not pay tuition in UP is less than 5%. How about PGH? Does PGH provide free healthcare to the poor? You not being practical. Your argument of “IF’s” for withdrawing your support to the RH bill is plain stupid and out of this world. And then you come up bragging your good deeds to me? I ain’t taking your bait because for me, you already lost this argument.

      • tamumd

        It’s not for me to decide but that’s my suggestion to you and your stupid church. If they really are concerned for the welfare and education of the poor..they should do all those. UP and PGH cannot provide 100% all the needs of our people because there are so many of us… 100 millions for a little, poor country and still multiplying like there’s no tomorrow. That is what your church wants to happen to us so badly.

        Funny how you brand my suggestion not being practical…when that is actually a very pragmatic solution to the teeming population problem with lacking educational and medical resources to use.

        Hahahaha ..it was you who asked me what I have done for the poor and others. Remember I didn’t volunteer any of those info. When I promptly answered your question you accused me of bragging. My question to you is what have you done yourself?

        How did I lost this argument when I have answered and refuted of your b..s claims.

    • Jomex

      tamumd, the Catholic Church in developed countries are DYING a slow and painful death. churches are empty and collections are low. coupled with gay priests and molestation cases. Religions do not flourish in developed countries with highly educated population.

      the Church has an interest then in keeping this country poor and illiterate. thats a fact!

      • tamumd

        I agree I’ve seen it first hand while in europe.

  • madallison

    To anti-RH bill people: If you don’t believe in contraceptives, don’t use them. But don’t prevent others who want to use them from getting them free from the government! The RH bill is not compulsory!!!! So mind your own business!! You are all hypocrites! If you really think contraceptives are evil why aren’t you protesting against their sale in Mercury and other pharmacies? Why all this fuss when the government wants to provide them to those who want them but can’t afford them? How about those poor couples who can only afford two children but already have 8 kids? Stop all this hypocrisy now and enough delays! If you are sure of your numbers why delay the voting? Vote already!! Cowards!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/welfarecard welfare

      They are not being prevented from using in the first place.. RH or not, you can freely buy condoms and contraceptives.

      If you want people to mind their own business, you ought to fight against the RH bill because it will force everyone to pay for condoms and contraceptives.. an unfunded legislation that will be financed through debt and inflation.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Another misguided and confused reader.  RH Bill is not intended to force people but to give people more choices when it comes to deciding the number of children and raising a family.

      • filipinaskoh

        I’d rather help the government shoulder a few pesos for contraceptives as compared to the effect of an overpopulated country. Imagine in an increasing cost annually you have to pay medical benefits, housing, education etc., that all goes to the poor plus the effect of an uncared children that strayed in the streets- pulubi, snatcher, street vendor etc., add also the illegal settlers along waterways that causes flooding. HOW MUCH DOES IT ALL COST as compared to a few peoso of contraceptives that the POOR ARE LONGING TO USE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD. 

        ASK THE POOR IF THEY ENJOYED HAVING sickly, uneducated,malnourished CHILDREN- their response would always be “they don’t have a choice”.

        In RHBILL they are given a choice OF GOOD LIFE!

  • boybakal

    The best time to vote on the bill is before Congress adjourns on Dec. 2…

    Best before Dec.21.
    This is a bad and sad day for our Jesus Christ who was born Dec.25, a very bleak Christmas for Catholics and Christians.
    As if saying….if there was RH BILL then on Dec.21 Christ will not be born in Nazareth.
    There will be no Christmas to commemorate.
    It is up to you people, Christmas or No Christmas.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      Did you know Yeshua the Messiah was born nowhere NEAR December 25, but that was the “birth day” of the sun- god, “Sol Invictus” or “Mithras”? Did you know December 25 was the concluding day of the pagan winter festival called the “Saturnalia”?
      i suggest you lookup for this paragraph on google and read the whole article.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        The entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, the Pope
        has declared, as he claims in a new book that Jesus was born several
        years earlier than commonly believed.

        The ‘mistake’ was made by a sixth century monk known as Dionysius
        Exiguus or in English Dennis the Small, the 85-year-old pontiff claims
        in the book ‘Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives’, published on
        Wednesday.

        “The calculation of the beginning of our calendar – based on the
        birth of Jesus – was made by Dionysius Exiguus, who made a mistake in
        his calculations by several years,” the Pope writes in the book, which
        went on sale around the world with an initial print run of a million
        copies.

        “The actual date of Jesus’s birth was several years before.”

        The assertion that the Christian calendar is based on a false premise
        is not new – many historians believe that Christ was born sometime
        between 7BC and 2BC.

        But the fact that doubts over one of the keystones of Christian
        tradition have been raised by the leader of the world’s one billion
        Catholics is striking.

        Dennis the Small, who was born in Eastern Europe, is credited with
        being the “inventor” of the modern calendar and the concept of the Anno
        Domini era.

        He drew up the new system in part to distance it from the calendar in
        use at the time, which was based on the years since the reign of the
        Roman emperor Diocletian.

        The emperor had persecuted Christians, so there was good reason to
        expunge him from the new dating system in favour of one inspired by the
        birth of Christ.

        The monk’s calendar became widely accepted in Europe after it was
        adopted by the Venerable Bede, the historian-monk, to date the events
        that he recounted in his Ecclesiastical History of the English People,
        which he completed in AD 731.

        But exactly how Dennis calculated the year of Christ’s birth is not
        clear and the Pope’s claim that he made a mistake is a view shared by
        many scholars.

        The Bible does not specify a date for the birth of Christ. The monk
        instead appears to have based his calculations on vague references to
        Jesus’s age at the start of his ministry and the fact that he was
        baptised in the reign of the emperor Tiberius.

        CHRIST’S BIRTH DATE IS NOT THE ONLY CONTROVERSY RAISED BY THE POPE IN
        HIS NEW BOOK – HE ALSO SAID THAT CONTRARY TO THE TRADITIONAL NATIVITY
        SCENE, THERE WERE NO OXEN, DONKEYS OR OTHER ANIMALS AT JESUS’S BIRTH.

        He also weighs in on the debate over Christ’s birthplace, rejecting
        arguments by some scholars that he was born in Nazareth rather than
        Bethlehem.

        John Barton, Professor of the Interpretation of the Holy Scripture at
        Oriel College, Oxford University, said most academics agreed with the
        Pope that the Christian calendar was wrong and that Jesus was born
        several years earlier than commonly thought, probably between 6BC and
        4BC.

        “There is no reference to when he was born in the Bible – all we know
        is that he was born in the reign of Herod the Great, who died before
        1AD,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “It’s been surmised for a very long
        time that Jesus was born before 1AD – no one knows for sure.”

        THE IDEA THAT CHRIST WAS BORN ON DEC 25 ALSO HAS NO BASIS IN
        HISTORICAL FACT. “WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHICH SEASON HE WAS BORN IN. THE
        WHOLE IDEA OF CELEBRATING HIS BIRTH DURING THE DARKEST PART OF THE YEAR
        IS PROBABLY LINKED TO PAGAN TRADITIONS AND THE WINTER SOLSTICE.”

      • brunogiordano

        Patunay na ang bible na ginagamit ng mga katoliko ay heavily edited, expurgated, at manipulated for their own INTEREST.

      • boybakal

        I don’t know.
        Granting that what you said maybe true, I won’t believe you.
        You are not an authority to talk about Jesus birth day, you are a pretender.
        I would rather search and google, I know better to research and analyze than your fake knowledge.

        Yan pinalitan ko na. Talagang producto ka ng Pilipino education, spelling ang pinagaralan, hindi ang mag isip.
        Spelling lang akala mo kung sinong Henyo na.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

        what search and goggle? i don’t remember asking you to search underwater, is said “GOOGLE”. 

        and unlike your idol senator i do not own the first paragraph in my post, that’s why i told you to look it up.

        evidently at this time you need more WD40 and rust converter to make your head function normally. you are more of boykalawang than boybakal at your current state.

      • brunogiordano

        “Granting that what you said maybe true, I won’t believe you.”

        Wawa ka naman tila hangang ngayon, naniniwala ka pa rin na ang araw ang umiikot sa mundo at ang mundo ay 6000 years old lang.

    • brunogiordano

      December 25 ay hindi kapaganakan ni jesus.

      Ang Christmas ay celebration ni SANTA CLAUS at ng mga bata.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Yes, please.  Vote already.

    I think all of us, pro and anti, can agree with that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Exactly.  They’re only voting not saying yes to RH Bill.  Why are these hypocrites scared of voting?  Because they would lose?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RELFMCPAIL6R3AVMCD5TE3JZMI Pinay

    NO TO RH BILL. The root cause to the population boom and mediocre economy is because FILIPINO citizens ages 16 to 27 are not given opportunities for HIGHER EDUCATION or even VOCATIONAL COURSES. So they end up being tambay or doing menial jobs in the country or overseas. I am not just referring to the 16-27 in this generation but even to prior generation – even before MARTIAL LAW. People were forced to stop at second year college to work… and this continues until now and it’s already 2012… Not alot of improvement has been made to make Higher Education Affordable and Available for More FILIPINOS. Yet government officials, has been drafting and redrafting RH BILL – wrong priority until now.

    RH BILL never provided economic growth and it did not sustain economic growth either in countries who has the law. They now regret it.
    In the case of CHINA – who is now seen as easing on the one child policy.
    In the case of SINGAPORE – who is now hiring foreigners to ensure it can sustain it’s economic growth. Hongkong – where still most educated  college – and MBA Filipinos are hired.

    Access to HIGHER EDUCATION and improvement on AGRICULTURE, taxes these and SO MANY OTHERS more are what we need.

    NO TO RH BILL.

    CONTRACEPTIVES are available and AFFORDABLE NATIONWIDE. Filipinos can choose according to their lifestyle. However access to HIGHER EDUCATION, which is NOT AVAILABLE to anyone who wish to pursue further studies. It is very EXPENSIVE. We have land areas for farming,  that are abandoned yet FOOD PRICES are HIGH.

    The POOREST OF THE POOR does not need CONTRACEPTION, they need to be able to find a way to get their kids education – not just ELEMENTARY and HIGHSCHOOL LEVEL, but COLLEGE. This will allow their kids to get better jobs  and sustain our economic development.

    If we give the POOREST OF THE POOR contraception – it will only encourage everyone to engage in so called ‘safe sex’ but since no contraception is 100% it will only double our population in less than 5 years creating more problems – health, hygiene, economic.

    We need intelligent and wise SENATORS and law makers who see that the COUNTRY DO NOT NEED RH BILL. VOTE NO TO IT NOW and STOP WASTING Government money and time drafting and redrafting RH BILL.

    NO TO RH BILL!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      You argue that the youth needs higher education.  Is RH Bill not a good education for them to make their own choices?  Don’t divert the issue.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Yes, one of our main problems is that not enough children are going to and finishing school.

      And what is one of the main reasons for that?  Poor families having more children than they can support, which leads to kids having to drop out of school to support their families, or parents simply not being able to pay for schooling because they need to feed a dozen kids.  If a family had had less children, it clearly would have more funds to spend on their children, enabling them to send their kids to high school / college and for those kids to actually have a chance at beating the poverty trap.

      So you REALLY should be supporting the RH Bill.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      who said china is regretting their one child policy? their think tank recommends easing on that policy because they want to balance their demographics, but they will never regret it as it was one of their measures that led them to where they are now economically.

      same goes with singapore.

      you sound much like sotto.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        In fact, it’s China’s one child policy that makes her the economic power today.  China knows the basic argument and needs to make her grow economically.  One does not need to be an economic expert to say that the more children, the more mouths to feed.

    • brunogiordano

      Argumento ng isang die-hard BABAE-HATER.

    • notcreepy

      “If we give the POOREST OF THE POOR contraception – it will only
      encourage everyone to engage in so called ‘safe sex’ but since no
      contraception is 100% it will only double our population in less than 5
      years creating more problems – health, hygiene, economic.”

      Hahaha! Kwela logic mo teh.

  • joerizal

    In the meantime, habang nagbabangayan ang gubyerno at simbahan, nadagdagan na naman ng 500,000 ang populasyon ng palamunin. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Walang pakialam ang mga Pari kung nadadagdagan man ang populasyon.  Wala naman mga anak ang mga Pari at Madre maliban na lang ang mga lihim na anak sa labas.

  • muddygoose

    The passage of the RH bill will be a good sign that times are changing. That Filipinos can be spiritual without having to blindly follow religious dogma. That we can be pragmatic and scientific about our development and our future. That we can choose and pursue a better quality of life for our children.

    Those who are against change–those who benefit from the status quo–will never cease to oppose this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

    “More OF the poor means less FOR the rich.”
    Huh?! You must mean ‘more of the poor means lesser for everyone’, because the government ought to take care of its poor citizens USING OUR TAXES! not just those of the rich. And certainly none from those priests and bishops!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    It’s now or never !  What we’re trying to do is to put it into a vote not necessarily to say yes.  Why are the anti-RH groups so scared about voting it ?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RELFMCPAIL6R3AVMCD5TE3JZMI Pinay

     A leader should lead it’s people to what is RIGHT even if it may mean going against strong funding support because it is nor RIGHT for the current and future generation of FILIPINOS.

    NO TO RH BILL!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Pinay, I presume you don’t like your husband to wear condom because it doesn’t make you feel good, right?  Skin to skin is much better.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    What a way to end the year!
    The president and his cohorts are intent to push Congress to vote in favor of the RH bill so that it can move forward…where?
    When the RH bill is passed into law, this country of ours moves backward.

    First, the priority to fund the huge budget outlay for the RH bill will take away the funds that should be able to generate economic progress like job creation, livelihood generation, infrastructure to improve market distribution, etc. But, with the future RH law, the government will be sorely sourcing funds from tax collections..that is, if the “sin tax” law will succeed and when tax collection will actually pick up. With the big smuggling problems at the Bureau of Customs, how can revenue collection be able to go up to fund the additional burden of the RH law?

    Secondly, next year’s elections will only create pseudo-economic growth because of the usual campaign period fast turnover of money. But, with the politicians who pleased the president with their support for the RH bill, they feel reassured of reelection and would keep the party funds for themselves. The release of pork barrel funds to the favored ones will only breed more corruption and wealth enrichment for each of the beneficiaries.

    Thirdly, the society will be in turmoil as the truth about the false surveys that “majority of Filipinos are in favor of the RH bill” will come out to be but a mere paid undertaking to create an atmosphere of urgency..when actually there was none. As always, the apologists of the president will point their accusing fingers on the Catholic Church for the mess that this RH bill will create – rise in HIV/AIDS cases, prostitution and human trafficking will worsen, drugs and suicides, abortions and failed marriages, teenage pregnancies, crime rates will go up.

    I have noticed that Pres. Aquino does things in a hurry without evaluating the consequences. The RH bill will only create more social problems. But, he feels proud that Congress is sure to pass the RH bill. For instance, the Framework Agreement with the Bangsamoro may have stopped the hostilities in Mindanao but by the time his term expires in 2016, we will never know what would happen if the MILF is not satisfied with the government. Thus, the RH bill is being rushed just so the president can say that he did it while the previous presidents weren’t able to do. This is mainly EPAL at its rawest kind. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      How on Earth are improved family planning services going to worsen prostitution and human trafficking, you deluded old man?

      I’ve seriously had it with people like you: people who KNOW they cannot win a logical argument and thus need to flat out lie to defend their points.

      Here’s a hint: once you have to invent things like that, you’re PROBABLY on the wrong side.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        How in heaven’s name you still cannot grasp what proliferation of condoms and contraceptive pills can do to those who should not have them like the youth and unmarried individuals?
        Your knack for nonsense is phenomenally consistent, jerk!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        It hasn’t done so in any other country, and it was feared in those too.  End of the day, you’re echoing CBCP fearmongernig that has no real basis in fact.

        Your knack for common sense is nonexistent, moron.

    • brunogiordano

      Sa haba ng argumento mo, OBVIOUS at halata na tangap mo na, na TALO ang mga anti-RH sa botohan sa RH bill.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        Ang obvious at halatang-halata po ay ang mga galaw ng mga nag-aalok ng tiyak na yaman para lang masunod ang kagustuhan ng nasa kapangyarihan.
        Kung hanggang ngayon di mo rin alam ito, ewan ko kung papaano ninyo mapagmamalaki na marangal ang mga mambabatas na bayaran.
        Wag kang magpakasiguro, brunogiordano. HIntayin na lang po natin.

  • ODAPAIN

    if this congress wont vote ,or wont move in whatever direction for  this bill,then its safe to assume that we have  a useless  congress,waste of tax payers money

  • James

    “The best contraceptive is education.”

    This is the best way to help our country. No to RH bill.

    Let a woman go to college and she won’t be pregnant up to her early 20’s or even older.
    The usual thinking in the far flung areas of our country is that if you can’t go to school, then you should marry. Teens as early as 16 get pregnant in our country and by early 20’s have 5 kids already. All because they are not empowered and are not given the mindset of going to college, of acquiring skills for a living, of getting emotionally, mentally and financially prepared before marriage.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      You live in too much presumptions.

      In your post,

      You presume that everyone has means to go to college.

      As if no teen pregnancy occurs among college students.

      As if no there’s no teen pregnancy in metro manila and nearby suburbs.

      As if RH bill is all about contraception.

      All because you think that everyone has same choices available to you.

      Take Jose’s advise. You can do it with a rubber band or two.

  • paulmart

    Again…Everytime you talk about putting RH Bill to a vote, a Strong Typhoon is coming. Now another Super Typhoon is coming.   Let’s forget RH Bill if you dont want typhoons and floods…..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Please castrate yourself so that your stupidity doesn’t spread.

      • paulmart

        It is stupidity if you can’t relate the events that are happening or about to happen..

      • tamumd

        U bet it’s your stupidity! You know very well that our country is along the typhoon belt. It’s on the top of the list of countries prone to disasters by virtue of our geographical location…along the typhoon belt and along the ring of fire. Only ignorant fools like you…try to make such connection.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        It’s stupidity when you make up connections that are clearly nonsense.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      It wasn’t a typhoon earlier this year, it was monsoon rains. 

      When Ondoy struck there was no talk of RH Bill.

      Coincidentally, there’s a super typhoon as the RH Bill showdown looms…and, by the looks of it, gonna pass by rufus’ district.

      • paulmart

        Looks like it is not coincidental.. but consequential..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

        well, tell your consequential typhoon, through your bishops, to redirect it’s wrath to metro manila because the legislative is here, not in central and southern philippines because he cannot stop the bill from there.

  • paulmart

    Say NO to RH Bill !!!  Say NO to Typhoons and Floods…Stop talking about RH Bill..

    Say NO to RH BILL !!! Replace it with a bill to send the youth in far flung and poor provinces to College and give them jobs. These uneducated youth have no choice but get married early and these uneducated couples are producing more children than the employed and educated couples.

    EDUCATION !!!…EDUCATION !!! EDUCATION !!! is the Key..Education is the Best Contraceptive… Understand that ???

    RH BILL will not solve the problem of overpopulation. It will only lead to more Birth Defects. You will see more MONGOLOIDS and Special or Abnormal children, and twins due to effects of contraceptives. Do you like to see more Mongoloid Filipinos? No way !!! Dont allow this to happen…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      Are you a mongoloid?

    • tamumd

      Let’s not venture into scientific domains that you have NO clue about. FYI the cause of Down Syndrome – the one you called “mongoloid” is not because of mothers taking pills. It is a condition wherein the fetus/baby have extra copy of chromosome 21 hence it is sometimes called Trisomy 21. The risk of having babies with this condition are advanced maternal age when she had the baby specially past the age of 35. and familial/genetic…as it runs in the family as well.  So it’s ignorant and deceiving if you connect oral contraceptives to occurence of Down syndrome.

  • florence457

    Why divide the Filipinos Mr. Aquino? There’s already an existing law that provides a health program to look after the welfare and concern of pregnant mothers so why duplicate it with this evil bill called RH which promotes bickering that even may lead to physical confrontation.

    Why Mr. Aquino are you a sadist that you pine to see your countrymen kill each other just because of religious beliefs? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      If anyone’s inflamed this discussion, it’s clearly the Church, whose priests have essentially used their privileged positions at the pulpit to repeatedly lie about the bill to the extent that the recent amendments included one that guarantees their right to mislead people.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      as far as surveys are concern more that 70% of filipinos are in favor of the bill. who is dividing who? 

    • hopeless_na

      YESSSS. and if you kill each other, i wish 50% of the total population will perish to end the problem of OVERPOPULATION.

  • charlie_oscar

    Time to get with the program Philippines…If you read the WHO (World Health) news on HIV/Aids rates in the Phils…That is reason enough to welcome the condom option and provide education in the far reaches.

  • mangtom

    boybakalCollapseThe best time to vote on the bill is before Congress adjourns on Dec. 2…Best before Dec.21.
    This is a bad and sad day for our Jesus Christ who was born Dec.25, a very bleak Christmas for Catholics and Christians.Sagut kay boyaluminumfoil (a.k.a. boybakal): Binasa mo ba yong isinulat mo bago mo ipinost? —sabi mo: “a very bleak day for Catholics and Christians. Aha, kayo palang Katoliko ay hindi Christians- no wonder you act like pagans. Case closed.

  • mangtom

    JamesCollapse”The best contraceptive is education.”Sagut to James: No, the best contraceptive is common sense. You may have all kinds of degrees, but if you exhibit no common sense, useless yong pinagaralan mo.YES, TO RH BILL.

    • paulmart

      Without EDUCATION, mostt likely you will have little common sense ! Yong mga walang pinag-aralan ay walang good reasoning, and mosly misguided. How can you say Education will not improve your common sense?

  • tagahuron

    Everytime Lagman and Pnoy start resurrecting the RH Bill there is a typhoon disaster coming. I wonder what’s the connection.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      what about all super typhoons we have each year, are they all connected to the rh bill?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

        lunatic logic

    • tamumd

      Because your pea size brain tries very hard to connect natural phenomenon to the goings on in the affairs of our government. How sad…that an educated person would make such an ignorant, superstitious connection.

    • Rae_E

      Spare us these superstitions.  That’s why we don’t progress, we’d rather believe in superstitions when God gave us brains to think rationally & critically. For your info, the Philippines has been declared as the 3rd riskiest country in the world.  Read rational & science based articles & read the bible so you get enlightened.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NMCOSCCEL42MIWK7Y3HWZHV54I DMS

       NO CONNECTION…. IT’S ALL IN YOUR MIND!

  • idolhunter

    showdown na!!!!

    • paulmart

      You like disasters and calamities to happen?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        gagawa ka?

      • paulmart

        You ask PAGASA.. You will see..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        ok.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ULW3TQ5LAJBDUMD32JVJAMTMFY Jojo

    “Filipinos want the RH Bill”, Sen. Santiago said. Bakit hindi ba ako Pilipino, marami naman ang ayaw sa RH Bill na mamayang Pilipino… PNoy atbp na mangbabatas na favor ditto sa RH Bill ay puppet ng mga negosyante… No to RH Bill… No to RH Bill… sigaw ng mamayang Pilipino “No To RH Bill”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      correction, sigaw ng Katoliko not sigaw ng bayan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Kung ganon, ang mga mambabatas katulad ni Enrile at Sotto na anti-RH ay puppet ng simbahan.

  • Rae_E

    Vote on the RH bill now! Congress prove to the nation & to the world that Filipinos are not inutile – incapable of doing things! 14 years is enough for this bill to languish in congress. Vote on RH now, so you can move on to other important bills too like FOI & anti-dynasty, etc. Enough of these meddling & pharasaical bishops. They’re not pro-life for they don’t care that poor women actually resort to abortion & die along w/ their infants. They want to keep the poor miserable & ignorant so they can keep on controlling them. That’s the bottomline of their opposition to RH bill.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    hahaha naglabasan ang mga anti-rh for the last hurrah of their stupidity.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      the Philippine is the ONLY country in this planet that still has artificial, following your distorted logic, the rest of the world is stupid and the Philippines wisest, you really have a stupid Catholic mind.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        read my post again, im pro rh..lol!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

        sorry, I stand corrected.

  • boybakal

    Why blame the Filipinos, blame the gov’t.
    It is them who run the country, it is them who makes laws, much more it is them who collects money and spend.
    China, India, billion population. But they did not blame their people, they use their brain and resources to be what they are now.
    USA is almost half billion people but most powerful great country.
    Russia, Germany, etc etc, populous but wealthy nations.

    Canada, Australia are big countries but small population.
    They want more people, that’s why, they are open to immigration.
    More people, more spending.

    Controlling the population is not a solution, population is the solution.
    Make the population work by means of work.
    Yes No to RH Bill.

  • tra6Gpeche

    I feel very good knowing that more Filipinos are in favor of RH bill. This means that no matter what happens to said bill, Filipinos know what is better for them and for the country. As for the Filipino lawmakers, we will finally find out who their master is. Is it the Filipino people or the Philippine Catholic Church?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      it is the Catholic Republic of the Philippines or Catholic Taliban Republic of the Phil.

      • brunogiordano

        CINO(catholic in name only – PEKENG katoliko tawag ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP)

        Vs

        Maka-DAMASOng(conservative/fundamentalist katoliko)

        Magbotohan na!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ULW3TQ5LAJBDUMD32JVJAMTMFY Jojo

    Pag napatupad ang RH Bill sa bansang Pilipinas liliit ang populasyon ng mga Pilipino… Ang darami ay ang mga dayuhang Intsik… At pag kunti na ang mamayang Pilipino at madami na ang Intsik sa Bansa, baka tawagin na nila itong “Philippines is now Peoples Republic of China”…  Wag naman sanang manyari ito sa mga darating na panahon.

    Please, No to RH Bill…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      kung halimbawa ofw ka sa saudi tapos nagkaron ng kaparehong sentimyento ang mga taga doon na sobrang dami na ng mga pilipino at dapat nang lipulin o palayasin, anong mararamdaman mo?

    • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

      Mahigit isang bilyon ang intsik, BOBO! Kahit manganak lahat ng pilipino pati lalake, hindi mo mahahabol ang dami nila.

    • Htee

      Your sense of connection on ideas is funny. Chinese populace and RH Bill has no.connection at all. Impress us with something else, will ya?

  • browndarwinian

    ‘The cure for poverty has a name, in fact. It is colloquially known as the Empowerment of Women. It’s the only thing that does work. If you give them some control over their cycle of reproduction so that they are not chained by their husband or by village custom to annual animal-type pregnancies, early death, disease and so on – if you would free them from that and give them some basic health of that sort, and if you are generous enough to throw in perhaps a handful of seeds and a bit of credit, the whole floor, culturally, socially, medically and economic of that village will rise. It works all the time…’ -Hitch

    NO to theocracy! RH Now!

  • nti_boohaya

    My practical take on this:  RH Bill or not, people will have sex and they will reurch. Mainam na yung may mag remind sa taongbayan ang family planning.  At kung gugustuhin nila ay may pagkukunan ng libreng condom- iwas disgracia eka nga.  Marami pang nakasabit na issues jan sa bill na yan.  Isa na ang napalaking pondo na ugat daw ng kowrahpsiyon.  E anong ahensiya ba ng gobierno na walang hokus pokus?  Ipasa na yan dahil sa aming distreto ay mas maraming sumosuporta sa bill na yan.

  • Tambaboy

    No one is forcing someone on this; it’s still a matter of choice. To deprive access those many who are willing to have it yet financially challenge, is a form of coercion. Educate those, who are not fully aware of it and let them have a choice. To hell with those who professed to be speaking in GOD’s behalf.  YES, YES, YES to RH BILL.

  • Commentator

    RH bill is good for the squatters. Pass it for their sake.

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    Why not vote after Dec. 21? If the world ends on that date, wala ng problema.

  • mangtom

    paulmartCollapseWithout EDUCATION, mostt likely you will have little common sense ! Yong mga walang pinag-aralan ay walang good reasoning, and mosly misguided. How can you say Education will not improve your common sense?SAGUT kay paulmart: yes, the educated fool. 

    • paulmart

      You are one of them.. You don’t seem to believe that Education has improved your IQ, your reasoning, as well as your common sense. That’s educated fool is all about.

  • pepito gwaps

    Poor people listen to the priest than the govt. Why because many of then find peace of mind and the necessary encouragement needed by the individual. Sometimes not only spiritual help a church can offer but free food, free shelter and free education too. If you only know how many people received help from the church I would definitely tell you they are millions except their children. This RH bill is against their belief so in my pt. of view it will not work with the majority of Filipinos.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      ‘free food, free shelter and free education’ my foot! Wake up!!! stop fooling yourself Open up to your senses, before its too late.

      • pepito gwaps

        You dont know they are also offering that…??? Unaware to his sorroundings. Better keep quite if you dont know that. Make a research brother even the Pres. Family is one of the benefactor of such church project. You dont know or you just brainwashed by them.

      • tamumd

        If that’s the case..we won’t have the perpetual shortage of textbooks and classrooms issues because who ever is not accomodated in the public school system will be taken care of by catholic private schools. That’s not what’s happening unfortunately.

      • pepito gwaps

        There is a requirement. You should be poor.

      • tamumd

        Hahahahaha…isn’t that’s what we’ve been discussing here all these time? Poor children? There are plenty of them everywhere in our country. There’s 44% of our children living in abject poverty. That’s  like 12.8 million children age 15 and below according to UNICEF.

      • pepito gwaps

        I know you are PRO Rh Bill but if you trying to tell that the church are not helping the poor families then you are committing a big blunder ..

      • tamumd

        I didn’t say the church is not helping the poor at all. What I was saying is they are not helping enough…given their vociferous objection to the passage of the RH bill. If they want to continue the runaway population growth..they should be more than willing to shoulder some of the basic needs those millions of children born every year like education and health care since they don’t even pay taxes.

    • tamumd

      Just  check every catholic schools from elementary to college from Appari to Jolo what part of the student body that are poor and go to each of these schools for free. Just check how many beds are dedicated to charity wards in the catholic run hospitals. In both instances you could count with your hands and toes and not millions. I would believe you if 50% of the enrollment in these schools are specifically allotted to poor students.  I  would believe you if 50% of their hospital census is exclusively for indigent patients.

      • pepito gwaps

        You should research. There are schools like that and you can ask even Pnoy where are those schools bec. his mother was very active supporting such projects of the church.

      • tamumd

        Name those schools. Remember….I said 50% of enrollment. And since poverty is evident all over the Phillipines, not just in Manila that should be apparent in the provinces as well. However i could assure you that is not the case. Seems like only rich kids go to those schools.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        there is none.

      • tamumd

        That’s what I figured.

      • walaeh

        hahaha pepito gwaps talo ka sa debate

      • pepito gwaps

        hindi naman…panalo ako sa huli kasi ireresearch pa nila yong sinasabi ko kasi hindi sya kasinungalinga…

      • tamumd

        Hindi kasinungalingan? Really. If you cannot even provide one single evidence how do we know you’re not just making it up. You’re grasping for straws..you don’t even have. lol

      • pepito gwaps

        Lol…

      • pepito gwaps

        Some of the Catholic institutions practice a virtue of humility and charity. It is not known to many because they dont like publicity thats why they never publish their commitments. Sorry I also dont like to spoil their virtue so better consult Pres. Family or any priest or cardinals if ever they have the schools and institutions 100% free not only 50% free.

      • tamumd

        Obviously you didn’t understand what I was trying to say. By 50% of enrollment…i meant half of the student body should be from poor families. That is if the total school enrollment in a particular school is 1000, meaning at least 500 should be poor kids. Apparently you cannot name at least one coz they’re non-existent. I don’t believe you that there’s even one school that is 100% all indigent kids, otherwise how would that school survive? Where would they get the money to pay the teachers and pay their bills? That’ not possible. You are making it up.

      • pepito gwaps

        Lazy boy. You dont even ask your parish priest about the matter then you concluded right away. Hey men. There are many rich people around the world who have the good hearts including the mothet of Pnoy. How come you are full of doubt because maybe you are sorrounded with fools. It doesnt mean that many are stingy, all are stingy. If there are poor, there are also wealthy. Ask first so you will know.

      • tamumd

        If I am the lazy boy..you’re the liar boy! You’re making up things without even a shred of evidence. You cannot even name one school…just one with 50% enrollment of all poor children.

        Whatever the rich people around the world do is their own charity not the catholic church’s.

        What we’re discussing here is the catholic church’s power to allow this enrollment to happen given that they own most of the private schools in our country. If they so will it….they could easily do this and really become part of the solution of educating our people specially the poor. However they only cater to the rich kids. Just go to their schools….most of those kids are driven to schools by their private chauffers or nannies.

      • pepito gwaps

        That is your pt of view. I respect that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      maski mga mahihirap sa iskwater can offer free food to strangers kung gusto nila. can the church offer absolute free education to the poor? instead sila ang mga pinaka mahal na private schools at universities at obviously walang chance ang mga mahihirap na mag aral sa mga iskwelahan nila. kung talagang sincere sila iangat ang buhay ng mga mahihirap magtatayo sila ng mga school na libre at hindi katulad ng naglalakihang negosyo nila. how can something than has already been proven in other countries wont work among filipinos?

      • pepito gwaps

        Yang schools na tinutukoy mo ay pag aari ng mga negosyante and run by the priest. Halo yan. Magpatulong kayo sa parish church nyo at baka kayo matulungan. Ask and you will recieve nga. Ipakita lang na talagang mahirap kayo at sincere. Meron sila nyan 100% free.

    • napali808

      I had been educated in a catholic school from elementary to college and none of my classmates are poor. I didn’t see or hear free shelter, education or food offered by the church. We had fund raising for the poor. Those were totally initiated by us; although, the cone heads got all the credits. I am totally disillusioned, disgusted, and demoralized by the behaviour of these cone heads running the church. 

  • Rap88

    PRO RH EXPOSE YOURSELVES AND BE COUNTED, if you have the yagballs….

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    How can you exercise freedom of choice if there is no alternative? Pass the RH bill and use that freedom.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

    SHAME ON YOU CATHOLIC CHURCH, YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF DELICADEZA, WHAT I DO WITH MY BODY IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

    • RiverHorse

      typical gay response. hahahahaha

      • w33k3nd3r

        Typical homophobic response.

      • RiverHorse

        and a faggotty defense from one with tons of insecurities. there is nothing wrong with being a normal heterosexual but being gay… well, is not normal and is definitely not special.

      • w33k3nd3r

        typical third world regressive behavior using modern English language to coat it’s closed minded, backward thinking, neanderthal; type homophobic. If you had any gay relatives, who’re probably hiding in the closet coz they wouldn’t wanna hear non sense BS from some ba$tard, garbage digging, hater like you. You’d most probably be a closet fagg0t also who hates those who’re out because they act how you feel. OOPS~ sorry I said so much that might bust your ego and nuts. If the planet’s majority were gay, we wouldn’t really mind you; you’re just sad.

      • RiverHorse

        i am not homophobic, i just do not tolerate misbehavior and narcissism. if you got a problem with it, you’re welcome to shoot yourself in the head.

  • tekateka

    WAKE UP!!!! 
    CATHOLIC IS PAGANISM

    youtube this!!!

    Religion The Greatest Story Ever Sold
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    The Spaniards did right by bringing the gospel of Jesus Christ to Pilipinas. Too bad it was the Catholic Church and their teaching of Genesis 1:27-28.

     
    Genesis 1:27-28King James Version (KJV)
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth

    • RiverHorse

      another one of those deluded narcissists!

  • Luthmar

    C’mon guys.  No more procrastination.  Right or wrong make a decision.  Trust your own judgement and believe in your wisdom.  Is that too difficult to do?  My goodness.

  • UrHONOR

    >>>But one opponent of the measure, Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez, said that if Malacañang forced a vote on the bill immediately after the meeting, without completing the period of amendments, it would “strain relations between the Catholic Church and the President.”<<<

    S O   W H A T ?   catholic church is highly IRRELEVANT now…..its Jurassic ways are not only corny and medieval but its costume and uniform…cape, toque, ladies gown, frills are laughable. Now, that doesn't work in yet the selfish practice that it embraces where its humongous financial resources are deemed more beneficial to be lodged in financial institutions than spread out to those who need them very badly.  And then preach furiously that deus providebit (god will provide) and one must not worry about what the future holds.  A very case in point where the left hand does one thing while the right, another.  And who are IMPORTANT  and of consequence to the catholic church? The RICH, FAMOUS, AND those in POWER.  The poor,  down-trodden, underprivileged, sick, destitute, impoverished and suffering?  "Saka na ang mga yan….ke dami-dami nila at wala din naman silang magagawa!". (So, JIL, El S, INK, BA, and many others begin to flourish, grow abundantly and pretty soon overtake its previous sanctimonious master).

    ANG natatakot sa kahit kanino o anupaman ay walang karapatang mabuhay!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Yeah, that quote was disgusting.

      He represents the people of the Philippines, not the CBCP.

  • paulmart

    No. SOMEONE is.

  • dodong1

    takot itong mga politikong ito dahil baka maparusahan sila ng mga damasos…sige dis approve ninyo para lalong lumubo pa ang populasyon hanggang lahat ay mamatay sa gutom at kahirapang ang mga Pilipino..maparis tayo sa somalia…

    • RiverHorse

      losers live in the past… get over your damaso-fixation… or kaya fixated ka kay damaso kasi inggit ka at nde ka naging biktima ni padre damaso???

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        hurt ka?

      • RiverHorse

        should i be? baka ikaw.

      • dodong1

        fixation ba kamo?/ eh isa akong damaso he he he he..hindi ako agree sa paglubo ng population..KUHA MO!!

      • RiverHorse

        nde ako naniniwala sa work-of-fiction na tulad ni padre damaso eh. may reklamo? dun ka sa baranggay pumutak.

  • RiverHorse

    as usual, santiago is overrun by her delusions.

  • brunogiordano

    “The time has come to put the reproductive health (RH) bill to a vote,”

    Tama!!!

    Halos lahat ng argumento Laban at Pabor sa RH bill ay naipahayag na.

    Kung hindi nangba-bluff ang sino man sa magkabilang panig na sila ay mananalo, sila ay dapat ng sumang-ayon na magbobotohan.

    Sport lang, walang iyakan parang bata.

    CALL????

  • Hey_Dudes

    For the bleeding heart liberals who continue espousing the bishop’s advocacy of  ‘more is better’, once  the country’s population hits 100 million mark and counting, you have better start adapting those who have lesser in life – the downtrodden if you will resulting from your total subservience to the bishops.

  • josefe38

    BOBO!!! MAG-ISIP NGA KAYO!!! DI NYO BA ALAM NA SA NGAYON PA LANG PANALO NA ANG MGA AGAINST SA RH BILL SA PANGUNGUNA NG CATHOLIC CHURCH? TANUNGIN NYO AKO, BAKIT!!  ANG PAG BASURA SA ORIGINAL DRAFT NG BILL AT PINALITAN NG SUBSTITUTE BILL IBIG SABIHIN LATAK NA LANG ANG NATIRA AT WALA NG KAMANDAG ANG INYONG BILL, 

    • superpilipinas

      Exactly.
      It is not RH bill anymore. It is “RH-lite”. So even if it passes, it’s become meaningless and meaningless laws just gather dust.  But anyway, I believe it will get dropped again tomorrow since the Church reminded again today, Sunday, to not reelect politicians supporting RH. Local priests and bishops will endorse the anti-RH. And that’s always what the reps are afraid of. And that’s why they will either not vote or vote No for RH.

    • brunogiordano

      Kung tiwala sa sinabi mo, hayaan mo ng magbotohan.

      CALL??

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      galit ka ba sa capslock? o ganyan lang talaga mag type ang tinuruan ng mga damaso?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      PIPIGILAN NA NAMAN NG BISHOPS ANG DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DUN SA GUSTO MAG PATALI 15 NARAW ANG ANAK MASAMA RAW MAG PATALI YAN TINATAWAG NA TERRORISTANG CARNIBAL TAGLE” MAAWA KAYO SA BANSA NINYO PUNO NG BATANG LANSANGAN AT ISNATCHER”KAYA YUNG SIMBAHAN NINYO TAPUNAN NG PETUS”

  • mangtom

    paulmartCollapseYou are one of them.. You don’t seem to believe that Education has improved your IQ, your reasoning, as well as your common sense. That’s educated fool is all about.Sagut kay paulmart: It takes one to know one, di ba? Nabuking ka na, choy.Like
    Reply

  • superpilipinas

    He-he-he. Buti pa, focus on expediting a very effective FOI bill.

  • nes911

    Have no fear. Pass that bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIBAL TAGLE KING OF DEMONS”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN SAY” REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SIRA ULO KATOLIBAN BISHOPS NAG PAPARAMI NA NAMAN NG BATANG LANSANGAN ISNATCHER KAYA UNSAFE METRO MANILA NAG PAPARAMI NA NAMAN NG DESPERADO PARA LUMAKAS ANG ABULOY”’EXTREMIST TERRORIST”

    • johndcross1

      You mean CBCP is KATOLIBAN?  Cool!!!!

    • bgcorg

      Poverty alleviation and the fight against corruption and criminality is the task of the temporal government, not the Church.  “The worker is worthy of his hire.”

      • tamumd

        Hahahahaha..how convenient! SO tell them including you to STFU and mind the spiritual needs of their congregation if that’s what they are for.

      • vendetta07

        then may I suggest that the church start paying taxes because it will be increasingly expensive to fight poverty when poor mothers keep pushing out babies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

    Let NOT our personal pride be involved in the vote, for or against, the RH-Bill.

    PRIDE is the Greatest, or rather, the WORST of ALL EVILS

  • $31594090

    Overpopulation is the source of all problems for this developing nation. Over half of the population are left behind in the economic growth enjoyed by the wealthy. Controlling the population is the key to a better lifestyle.

    High income differential breeds crime that most people fear, and that takes away their sense of freedom to roam around. Poor people are not accepted in most hospitals; and if they do get accepted, they are not provided the care they need. Their immediate relatives would do anything necessary to get money for their care, and that includes theft, robbery and burglary, which are the easiest to attain.

    The Filipino leaders need to look at the Moros for guidance on population growth. Never listened to Catholic leaders forguidance (even though I was baptized as Cathoic). They have a hidden agenda, and that is to propagate more money from the poor for their lavish livelihood.

    Catholism was an instrument of King Phillip of Spain to control the minds off primitive Filipinos from 1500 to late 1800. Spanish culture goal was to colonize and reap the wealth of their colonies through greed. Without their colonies, they become what they are now, a pariah in the European Union.

    • johndcross1

      Spain is a basket case in the EU! 

    • bgcorg

      I can’t follow your logic.  There seems to be something essentially missing.  The necessary nexus between your premises and your conclusion.

  • dickenhead

    after the RH bill is passed, enact another law that will tax the church!

    • Jomex

      just like in Italy, very good idea

      • bgcorg

        What’s in Italy?  What is a very good idea.  Details, please.

    • johndcross1

      I like this!

    • bgcorg

      Why? Don’t we have a separation of the Church and State?

  • speedstream2

    If a quorum can’t be had, how can it be put to a vote?

  • OneDelaX

    there should be a compromise between the church and the government. a law should be passed limiting the number of children to 2 or 3. beyond that it should be the responsibilty of the church to make sure the children are fed right and provided shelter and a good education.

    • johndcross1

      Amen to that!

    • bgcorg

      I can’t see the logic of the compromise you propose.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Wutno.

      A.) The RH Bill REALLY isn’t a population control bill, despite the claims of the anti-RH lot.  It’s sponsors have repeatedly confirmed that there will be no set family size, and their main teachings will be for poor families to only have kids they can support, which is something I think everyone can agree on.

      B.) I support the RH Bill, but would be very opposed to any law limiting the number of children ANYONE can have.

      C.) The CBCP in charge of education would be bloody terrible.

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    If RHBILL is about “Giving SUVs and money” to CBCP bitchops, matagal ng naging batas iyan, and they will claim that Pablo is a blessing from the god.

    Tax the church bill, next.

    • bgcorg

      Do you say that because of cynicism or are you convinced about what you are saying? 

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        Am I wrong?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZCLTTS57ON35ZKKHI3HZVF752M duke

     Why not let the Catholic church ” bounty savings” especially from vatican treasury feed the growing population of the country? Anti-RH bill sila ,so pag nanalo sila, tulungan nila govt to feed our fellow Pinoy Ilabas nila yung pera ng Vatican (Bullions of gold reserves, diamonds, billion dollars) .Hindi yung puro sila batikos. I’m a catholic but I GO FOR RH BILL  ( basta lang yung pondo will really be used sa program na ito at di sa bulsa ng pulitiko, kundi talo na naman si Juan Dela Cruz…) Hey guys! aren’t you tired of poor people getting poorer because of poverty/corruption? dying Filipinos because of hunger? dying women of multiparous delivery? dying babies because they have nothing to feed on? squatters aorund the country? beggars? sickness? wake up…Umusad naman tayo… PRO-RH BILL!

    • batangsulpok

      Natumbok mo kabayan pero ang problema sa atin sa Pilipinas ay sobrang daming katolikong panatiko na lahat ng sabihin ng mga Pari ay sinusunod kaya ang bansa natin ay hindi umaasenso at kailangang magbago na ang sambayanang Pilipino para di lomobo ang population.

      • ngidigop

        Pre di la kahit anong sabihin ng PARI, recall Noli Me Tangere, sino ba ang tatay ni Maria Clara?

      • johndcross1

        Si Padre Damaso, he he he!

      • divictes

        Totoo? Buong akala ko nagkaroon ng himala dahil nagsayaw sa Obando Nanay ni Claire. Tsk Tsk…

      • bgcorg

        Fanaticism is different from obedience due to one’s faith.  One’s faith as a Catholic is not a pre-condition for economic and human progress.  Poland is a deeply Catholic country, but they are a progressive country.  All things have their pros and cons but living according to one’s faith is definitely not a factor against progress.  Moreover, there are dynamic changes and facts in population.  In fact, it is so complex a subject that the opinion that we are overpopulated is still debatable.  What is not debatable is that we should maintain a balance and provide for a healthy demographic “replacement rate” in population growth.

      • vendetta07

        I agree that a replacement rate is ideal, 2-3 children.

    • bgcorg

      The Catholic Church is for the fight against poverty and corruption.  Government should make it its priority to establish a just social order in the land, not make the distribution of free condoms and contraceptives ostensibly for the very poor its policy.  Spend the billions instead to mitigate hunger, care for the mother and child by extending adequate health care to the remotest nooks of the islands, make sure that no Filipino is a squatter in his own country, find out the roots of mendicancy and implement solutions for them, extend more social and medical care for the very poor.  All of these impact programs and policies do not require the rh bill.  The bill is absolutely not necessary to fight poverty and corruption.

      • tamumd

        Of  course the RH bill is necessary if you want all those social programs in your wish list implemented in the long run. Or else the government would perpetually be catching up given that we bring close to 2 million warm bodies into this world every year.

        Simple analogy is dividing P10 among 20 children as compared to dividing that same amount between only 2 children. And that’s the reason why we are perpetually short of books and classrooms coz there are always millions of kids sprouting every year. It amazes me how you could not see this at all.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AESD5SRM5UZUONKPCETXR76NKU Dennis

        nagBOBOBOBOHAN LANG YAN SI BGCORG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alam nya yun ayaw lang niya umintindi.

      • vendetta07

        the church should not meddle in the affairs of the state.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AESD5SRM5UZUONKPCETXR76NKU Dennis

        yan ANG PANINIWALA MO BGCORG!!!! Kung ayaw mo ng condoms eh di wag! Buti nga sa iyo dahil kaya mong bumili ng condom…. pagbigyan mo na ang poor!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZCLTTS57ON35ZKKHI3HZVF752M duke

       Thanks to all… understanding the value of “LIFE” as the catholic priests have impregnated in our mind through the years ( I have been with their teaching since elementary) is quite ironic in this issue. Yup, I understand their side (  life starts with the union of the sperm and female egg)….but I say, Life starts when you value life with its existence… I am Pro LIFE and I am PRO RH BILL…. ( not ironic in a deeper sense)

  • divictes

    No Madam, if RH dies, it won’t be of old age, it will be because so called PRO-LIFE aborted it.

  • just_anotherperson

    No to the Liberal Party and the RH Bill!

    • Jomex

      ahhh finally party politics.

    • marionics

      kami yes he he

    • johndcross1

      Don’t worry we are YES, YES, YES!!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      mas lalo naman NO to the league of child predators.

  • kulittwit

    The president is right, time to decide once and for all. If not now, when? it is not good to keep this issue dragging for the new year.

    Just make a vote your honors, as PNoy said, you are leaders! whatever your vote is secondary. JUST PUT THE ISSUE TO REST SO THAT THE NATION CAN MOVE ON!

  • Jomex

    The Catholic Church in developed countries are DYING a slow and painful death. churches are empty and collections are low. coupled with gay priests and molestation cases. Religions do not flourish in developed countries with highly educated population. the Church has an interest then in keeping this country poor and illiterate. thats a fact!

    • bgcorg

      No, that is not fact.  The Church encourages education and champions the interest of the poor.  Catholic schools are all over the place and parish churches have programs for the poor and indigent.  Priests are murdered because they champion the rights of the poor and downtrodden.  You have to get your facts straight.

      • tamumd

        If the catholic church is really serious about helping educate the poor..they have all the power and resources to do so since they own most of the private schools from elementary to college in the country. They should open 50% of their total enrollment to poor students. I arbitrarily chose that number so that their bottom line would not be compromised. They don’t need a lot of earnings… just enough for the school to stay afloat. After all, what would they do with their money and gold. That would be a hindrance for their journey to their after life. lol That should apply to their hospitals too. Until that happens all this call for educating the poor by this men in robes are all empty rhetorics. 

        Which priest were murdered…the foreigner priests who truely work for the poor. Not our native ones who like to drive around in their SUVs, living in their airconditioned rooms, eat 5 meals a day with full entourage of maids and cooks and butlers.

      • tarikan

        Are Catholic Schools for the poor? May nakita ka na bang bata na naka-tsenilas lang pumapasok sa Catholic Schools? One of the highest tuition fees around. Mga madre mahilig pa mag-utos sa mga bata pahingi ng donation sa parents, as if the very high tuition fees are not enough. 

      • brunogiordano

        “No, that is not fact. ”

        Kailan pa natuto ang mga conservative/fundamentalist tungkol sa FACT.

        Ang alam lang nila ay FAITH hindi FACT.

      • what_is_going_on

        If the Church encourages education and champions the interest of the poor, then why does receiving Catholic education costs so much? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AESD5SRM5UZUONKPCETXR76NKU Dennis

        PAANO MAKAPAG AARAL ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP SA MGA CATHOLIC SCHOOLS NA YAN EH MAHAL NAMAN NG TUITION??????????? NEGOSYO LANG YAN NG SIMBAHAN AT HINDI ANG MAPAARAL ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • johndcross1

      Tama ka!  The church really thrive on the ignorance of the people.

  • bgcorg

    “NO” to the rh bill is the clear vote of lawmakers in Congress.  If it is the true, genuine good of the country THEY profess to protect, there is no other vote but “NO.”  Had we adopted artificial birth control by legislation some 14 years ago, where would we be now?  We won’t have a “young, vibrant work force” that has saved our economy from the global slowdown that gripped advanced economies of the world.  In the global community, one’s misfortune is the competitive edge of another; we should not lose our competitive edge only due to a discredited theory of suppressing human births to be good for the country!  Legislators who are pro-rh should change their position now and vote against the bill becoming a law.  There is absolutely no need for legislating a practice already implemented by the executive department.  Instead of borrowing money to fund in the billions condoms and contraceptives ostensibly for the very poor, putting into jeopardy the future of generations of young people, “NO” IS THE CLEAR VOTE by Congressmen who have the genuine good of the Filipino in mind.  Let the billions be spent for human development so that the small man would have more in law, more food on the table, more shirt on his back, more roof over his head, more education for the young, more work to sustain life.  Temporal governments should make it a point to do for their constituency WITH PRIORITY to level the playing field so that the very poor, their families and their young may improve their quality of life more than giving them “cake” in the form of condoms and contraceptives, when what they really need and only ask for is “bread.”  The government should make it a point to establish first a just social order in society, not suppress human births for crumbs from so-called “millenium development goals.”  Doing well what it is supposed to do, everything else follows! Life is precious.  We should respect it and nurture it from conception to natural death.  Our Constitution and our laws should be consistent with properly understood freedoms: from want, life, speech and religion. First, give the very poor a life, to hope for the better, in a climate of a just social order.

    The fallacy that about “80% of the population” are in favor of the rh bill is a bubble that is deflated by Christian movements in parishes and Catholic schools all over the country. But, the lie is bandered to be the truth, especially with declarations of support from some supposed “Catholics.”  Morality, however, is not a matter of a “majority” decision and it is very doubtful whether the surveys have covered all areas, as to be truly representative of the Catholic position.  In fact, Christian lawmakers are supposed to be “the light of the world” and “the salt of the earth” who, like leaven, can influence the mass of dough into becoming edible bread for life and health.  Catholic lawmakers should inform their conscience with docility to the teachings of the Church, and with prayer, faith and the sacraments, keep themselves closely in step with the Master, Jesus Christ, who himself is a “sign of contradiction” so that raised for all to see, we might all find salvation.  Conscience should be “certain,” informed, correct; not affected, pharisaical, erroneous, lax or doubtful.  The reason for the doubts should be removed, since vincible ignorance can be surmounted, in order to make an objective practical judgment based on the Law of Christ.  Catholic lawmakers who make “conscience” their tool for judging whether the bill should become a law, should bettter think: for a law to be valid and enforceable, it must be in accordance with the Natural Law in God, the divine positive law expressed in the Decalogue, and consistent with our cultural heritage, values, traditions, laws, mores, ethics and practices.  A marked rupture from this “consistency” is irregular!

    The recent international conference in Bangkok on population highlighted the falling fertility rates in the Asian region, which it decried.  Interestingly, UN staffers, other representatives of international organizations, demographers and economists did not discuss “fertility” only in relation to demography but also traced other phenomena associated with it: increased urbanization, transmigration and intra-migration, labor and employment.  Demography is not a static, but a complicated, dynamic reality that a so-called modified “Reproductive Health Bill” is inadequate to address.  Actually, the title is a misnomer! One cannot have a hard and fast rule to suppress human birth and not be liable for where it leads, from contraception: abortion, same sex marriages, divorce, pre-marital sex and teen sex (liberal rights, anyone?), free sex.  Actually, adherents of the pro-rh may not know it, but the phrase “reproductive health” is a technical euphemism for the battle cry of ultra liberals, especially belonging to “women’s/gay rights” groups pushing for the legalization of these practices in practically all corners of the globe already in various stages.  It is possible that some lawmakers are not aware of this; but it is with more reason now why they should be wary of the Trojan Horse to cause a rupture in the Filipino way of life. One cannot be over-careful these days! Morality out the window. God oout of the bedroom and out of life. Philippine society becoming godless and immoral….

    The choice is clear: NO TO THE RH BILL!

    • what_is_going_on

      The country has a vibrant work force because their parents are working overseas to support them. 

    • brunogiordano

      “Morality, however, is not a matter of a “majority” decision.

      Tama!!!

      Ang morality ay relative depende sa indoctrination at paniwala ng bawat isa.

      Subalit marami (majority) talaga ang may nais sa RH Bill at ito ay moral sa kanila.

      Maniwala ka iyong paniwala Subalit huwag isasak sa aming mga baga ang iyong paniwala.

      • bgcorg

        Man is always free, even against moral norms, to do what he wants.  For every human act, however, there is a corresponding moral responsibility that we cannot escape from.  The Church teaches, but she does not force anyone to follow such teaching.  Obedience must be voluntary.  Salvation is personal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        they dont force, they just blackmail politicians who go against their wishes.

      • Jomex

        lol

      • brunogiordano

        Inedit mo at denilete ‘Yon portion tungkol sa MORALITY sa original post mo kaya nagkapilipilipit ang sagot mo sa itaas.

      • johndcross1

        If the RH bill is passed and you don’t want to practice it, which you are allowed, then, what is your problem?

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Sorry, I’ve been exposed to the same Filipino way of life for all my life, and it could use a little rupturing or I fear it may get worse.

      “Let the billions be spent for human development so that the small man would have more in law, more food on the table, more shirt on his back, more roof over his head, more education for the young, more work to sustain life.” – Both sides want this, but how would you even implement this? Raise the amount prescribed by the sin tax bill? Create a new bill that taxes foreign imports higher? You want people to have more in law when the Church butts its head where it shouldn’t and lawmakers who don’t show up. This is not Bangkok. This is not China. This is not the U.S. How about we start looking at improving the quality of life first, and then we can focus on making more of it.

    • johndcross1

      If the RH bill is passed and you don’t want to practice it, which you are allowed, then, what is your problem?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      haba ng sinabi mo puro ilusyon naman lol!

    • Jomex

      my eyes are bleeding reading this…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XSHWGLY25MTOGUZUIBF5JT5BZI pdred

      If the 80% of the population who are in favor of the bill are a fallacy, then a majority of congress should vote against it. So why the heck are the anti-RH pols doing all they can to stop the vote? Dapat magboto na para tapos na. Para silang si Mayweather, dakdak ng dakdak.

    • vendetta07

      “Had we adopted artificial birth control by legislation some 14 years ago where would we be now? We won’t have a “young, vibrant work force” that has saved our economy from the global slowdown that gripped advanced economies of the world.”

      Wrong. I hope you are not supporting child labor because people born 14 years ago would still be children. Therefore, we would still have the same workforce as 14 years ago.

  • boyod

    why not the house of congress initiate  taxing  the tights that was extorted from the mass goers. wala ngang entrance fee pagpasoK sa simbahan pero may tong naman na harap-harapan, to include other businesses and universities and colleges para matamimi ang mga yan 

  • FORTHE GOOD

    The vast majority of filipinos favor the RH bill.

    The lawmakers should bear this in mind when they vote, as they are the representatives of the people.

  • marionics

    nasaan na si “Tanga, i-showdown mo mukha mo ,bobo!”?

    hahaha

  • what_is_going_on

    Separation of Church and State and the RH bill is very important to pass for the current and future economic prospects of the country. Pass the RH bill!! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    dasal ??? isa pa kayong pambigat sa pasanin ng mga tao !!!!!

  • johndcross1

    Let us put it to a vote!  Let your conscience dictate your vote.  Don’t pay attention to those priests, bishops, etc. because they are not affected by the sufferings of the poor.  We, the people favor the passage of this bill. DAMNED TO THOSE WHO OPPOSED, THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS IN DICTATING WHAT THE MAJORITY OF FILIPINO PEOPLE WANTS!!!

    • boypalaban

        wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…
      mamaya na ako magkokomento kapag medyo na-challenge ako…

      ulit ulitin niyo lang…DAMASO, PEDOPHILE, CBCP…ETC…

  • romeyo chill

    Do you think this is still a fight between who is more right? . . . or what benefits more the Filipino people?  No! With all these discussions and debates about it, this RH Bill has become a fight on this: who is really more powerful, the church or the state?  

    • tarikan

      I think it’s no debate who is more powerful. It is of course the Catholic Church. They can threaten ex-communication if they think one is not following their “absolute” order however clean & honest one is. Or they can promise everlasting life in Heaven, at the side of the Lord if one follows blindly their “absolute” order however one is bad & corrupt. One best example is a lady (half of a grand thieving couple) who walks on her knees from outside a cathedral up to the altar, showing to her idiot people and to her Church patrons how piety she is. Pero sabi ni Tani (satanas) sino niluko nya, haha. 

  • boi skater

    Unfortunately many of our lawmakers are basically selfish, coward and inept. They are useless when it comes to improving the lives of the poor people of this country.

  • boi skater

    It boggles the mind why the lawmakers of a supposedly free
    and democratic country need to consult with the church in the crafting of a
    civilian bill. Since when did the church become a lawmaking body of this
    country? Are we now under the rule of the Taliban?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    foreign catholic priests yes, but local pinoy priests? all disgraced to the church.

    • divictes

      Amen.

  • blainz

    Speaker Belmonte has to put in measures to corral evading congressmen so a quorum can be produced. Heavy-handed? Yes, but this absentee shenanigan has gone far enough; Filipinos are not paying their salary so they can loaf around.

    Put it to a vote or put it on a referendum.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    They should submit this bill to voting to finish it. Otherwise, there will be endless wrangling and debates in and out of congress. In the US, it’s the protestants who made the US rich. In the Philippines, it’s our religion that prevented us from becoming human beings. Since the time of Magellan, we never had a chance to be a progressive and self-sufficient economy. All because of religion.

    • tarikan

      Pre, I am a Catholic but I must say that majority of the corrupt people in the Philippines both in public and in private sectors are Catholics who often you see them hearing mass in Church. Corrupt Protestants, I think, don’t take communion rites whereas the corrupt Catholics take it every Sunday. 

      • feb142010

        Are you referring to Catholics who are really faithful to the teachings of the Church? Or Catholics by name who just appear in Sunday Masses and live like pagans (no offense intended to pagans)? (’cause there’s a very huge difference between the two).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynaldo-Quijada/100000740291153 Reynaldo Quijada

    Yes the congressmen and the senators are leaders but how can they exercise their leadership freely when PNoy and the RH lobby are coercing them??? The fact that they do not want to decide on it yet is due to the importance of the decision they have to make and the far reaching effect of RH on our country’s life which many developed countries now are experiencing like  ageing population, refusal of women to give birth, dysfunctional families and sexual permissiveness which affect negatively citizens efficiency as they become comfort seeking!!! I therefore would like to appeal to the sense of patriotism of PNoy, the congressmen and senators to give priority to the interests of the Filipinos rather than whatever favor they will receive in return from acceding to the RH lobby. May I also appeal to all Christians especially Catholics and Moslems who are opposed to RH to campaign against congressmen and senators who will vote in favor of the RH bill.!!!!!! They fooled us three years ago thru SMARTMATIC by claiming that there was a source code deposited at BSP when actually there was none and now a worse scam they are imposing on us initiated primarily by the US and Britain supposed to be champions of democracy, the RH bill that will destroy the future of our country, our CHILDREN!!! Share if you agree,

    • tamumd

      Excuse me..the president is not coercing them to vote FOR the bill. What he wanted is for them to move on with the vote coz for every day they delay this process they are wasting our money by paying their salaires for nothing. The president made it very clear that they should vote whatever their conscience dictate. Therefore if they are against the bill they should vote as such. On the other hand it’s the Mitshubishops who are blackmailing politicians about the imaginary catholic votes.

      Please spare us from your conspiracy theories. We are not 3rd graders that would easily bite your hyperboles and alarmist tactics. Only the naives and the gullibles buy those. So I won’t even share your views coz I absolutely don’t agree. lol

    • joshmale2004

      Read again the news. The President is clearly not coercing the Congress. Very clear ang sinabi niya na pagbotohan na RH Bill. Whether YES or NO, pipirmahan niya.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZCLTTS57ON35ZKKHI3HZVF752M duke

     Understanding the value of “LIFE” as the catholic priests have
    impregnated in our mind through the years ( I have been with their
    teaching since elementary) is quite ironic in this issue. Yup, I
    understand their side ( life starts with the union of the sperm and
    female egg)….but I say, Life starts when you value life with its
    existence… I am a catholic, I am a Pro LIFE and I am a PRO RH BILL….
    ( not ironic in a deeper sense.. think..)

    • boypalaban

        wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…
      mamaya na ako magkokomento kapag medyo na-challenge ako…

      ulit ulitin niyo lang…DAMASO, PEDOPHILE, CBCP…ETC…

  • tarikan

    “The meeting, however, hardly made a dent on the President’s position on the bill, which is fiercely opposed by the Church for purportedly promoting use of contraceptives and abortion”. Please, Catholic Church don’t muddle the issue just so you could coerce your flock into disapproving the RH Bill. ABORTION? Where in the text of the proposed bill that it encourages abortion? In fact it criminalizes abortion. People, people of the Church with due respect please say it as it is and don’t play tricks with the taongbayan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      The Bishops are muddling the issue because they’re living a muddy life.

      • boypalaban

          wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…
        mamaya na ako magkokomento kapag medyo na-challenge ako…

        ulit ulitin niyo lang…DAMASO, PEDOPHILE, CBCP…ETC…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YX3GNEI6FHCLMXK5ZKXKZ54WJA Kiam

         Bakit, sino ba nag-aantay ng komento mo?

      • boypalaban

        ikaw…para magkalaman naman yang ulo mo ng hindi puro condom…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Sa negative lang kasi nakatuon yang mga mata mo. Sayang, left and right pa naman yang gumagana mong mga mata. Sana hindi matuluyang mabubulag yong kanang mata mo.

      • boypalaban

         utak condom…naghangad ka pa ng kapahamakan ng kapwa mo…mamigay ka na ng condom sa mga mamamatay na sa gutom…baka masarapan sila diyan…o sige na…ano pa hinihintay mo…lagay mula sa mga pulitiko? tinatawanan ka lang ng mga yun…o siya…punta na…bigay na…

    • jashs

      ano?? walang abortion!!!  cytotec mabibili over the counter, anong tawag mo roon? aspirin? … nakakatawa ka kaibigan … isa pa lang yan sa babanggitin ko sa iyo

      • joshmale2004

        Nariyan na sa mga Drugstores ang mga gamot na ginagamit sa abortion kahit noon pa na walang proposed RH Bill. Kung gusto nating mawala lahat mga gamot na yan, gumawa ng batas specifically making illegal selling all drugs which have abortive effects in addition to the existing law on illegal abortion. That’s a different matter on what the RH Bill is being intended.

      • jashs

        magiging legal nga ang bentahan, over the counter … nuon under prescription ng doctor, ngayon over the counter na lang … iba nuon iba sa rh bill, kaya bago aprubahan ang rh bill, dapat liwanagin na ang mga ganitong gamot dapat under prescription pero di papayag ang mga multi national companies kasi dito sila tutubo ng malaki

      • joshmale2004

        Can you cite the exact provision sa RH Bill allowing this practice. Wala akong nabasang magiging over the counter na lang mga abortive drugs.

      • jashs

        that’s what you think, in law what is not included is deemed excluded … the provisions of the RH bill is very silent on that particular matter but it doesn’t mean that these prescriptive abortive pills will not be open to market.  Common sense, do you think that these multi national companies will lobby for the approval of the RH bill for nothing, using some powerful politicians,  Be realistic … I am not against the RH bill but this is only used by the multi-national companies to gain.  Yun mga abortive pills dapat nireresetahan pa rin ng mga doctor, at yun ang dapat mangyari … then RH bill will be truly for us

      • joshmale2004

        the RH Bill is silent on the matter because we have existing laws already regarding legal, illegal, prescriptive drugs. Kung silent, ibig sabihin, hindi nito ma susupercede ang anumang existing laws. Hindi pwedeng magkaroon ng dalawang batas na magkasalungat. Sto stop reading between the lines. sabi nga nila, what is not written has not been said. 

  • boypalaban

    wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…
    mamaya na ako magkokomento kapag medyo na-challenge ako…

    ulit ulitin niyo lang…DAMASO, PEDOPHILE, CBCP…ETC…

  • abner

     BEWARE OF PNOY HE IS A BACKSTABBER…

    • kishbuff

      E ikaw, ano ka? ha? ha? ha? 

    • joshmale2004

      Did you experience it personally?

  • kishbuff

    It’s showtime!

    • joshmale2004

      Not showtime time lol. It’s SHOWOFF time. This is the right time for our Congressmen and Senators to show off and make a name for themselves especially the reelectionist.

  • joshmale2004

    Better if the media show the entire substitute bill (HB4244), so the public can read the full context and also decide on where they decide personally. All the reader’s argument I’ve read so far is still based on the Original RH Bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    So sorry I am a strong believer of this old adage,  thus: “THE END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE END”. All countries without exemptions are now facing problem because there is the problem of nuder population. In China, Japan, Singapore and other develop countries are now confronted with this problem!

    • AJ Giorgio

      yun na nga eh.. developed countries na sila ngayon. ang pilipinas, noon developing.. ngayon deteriorating.. never naging developed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IQRHFQLTHJBHOVSJMF7RC3FNIQ nathan

    Go, go, RH Bill !!!  Go go Philippines!!! Shut up Damasos!! Mind your own business!!!

    • boypalaban

        wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…
      mamaya na ako magkokomento kapag medyo na-challenge ako…

      ulit ulitin niyo lang…DAMASO, PEDOPHILE, CBCP…ETC…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    I meant the “MEANS”! instead of END.THUS ” THE MEANS DOES NOT ALWAYS JUSTIFY THE END”!!!!!!

  • jashs

    RH bill in its sense is quite good, pero may hidden agenda dito, yung mga abortive pills na kung saan tutubo at kikita ng malalaki ang mga multi-national companies, yun ang problema … tulad ng cytotec, daig pa ang nagpa abortion nito, it damages the brain and the heart of the fetus at kung sakaling mabubuhay tulad ng nangyari sa isang leading hospital dito sa metro manila, ang baby ay vegetable na, kaya ang kawawang bata bago namatay pinahirapan muna … now the hospital is looking who in the heck issued that prescription (doctor) …wala namang abortion, puro pills lang naman na nakakapagpalaglag at ang nakakatakot dito, mabibili ang mga ganitong uri ng gamot over the counter, kahit ang isang high school student puedeng bumili nito tapos ipasok lang sa vagina, yun na yun, abortion na at ang masakit dito di malalaman ng kanyang mga magulang na nabuntis na pala ang kanyang anak … tanggalin ninyo ang mga abortive pills then the RH bill will be truly for us, or kundi naman, dapat ang mga ganitong uri ng gamot ay nireresetahan ng doktor, pero di papayag ang mga malalaking kompanya ng mga dayuhan … yun ang problema

    • abner

       di mo ba napansin ang daming pinadala ang mga multi national companies dito para sabihin na sila talga ang boses ng nakararami eh trabaho nga sa kanila magcomment dito eh…tau naman kabawasan sa trabaho natin…kase dumidepensa tau…hehe

      • abner

        isama mo na dyan ang epekto ng pills di mo ba napansin ang daming magkakamukha na pilipino sa ibat ibat panig ng pilipinas ung taga maynila kakambal nilang lahat ung nasa visayas…….talagang di napapansin ng mga pro rh yan..dun nga lang sa programa ni willie awang awa ako kase mga naging abno sila…malamang lalo pang dadami yan pagpinuduhan pa ng gobyerno pagpaparami sa kanila…

      • el_latigo

        Wow! Mga tao daw dito sa Pinas puro magkakamukha na ayon kay @ad lev ad hominem. Alam mo dude, yung mga taong binabanggit mo sa programa ni Willing-wili atbp. ay puro mukha ng ngang abnoy dahil sa hirap ng buhay at di na nila makayanang bumili ng mga pagkaing masusustansiya kaya tuloy puro mukha na silang abnoy na ayon sa iyo ay magkakamukha na nga. Subukan mong kumain ng kanin at bagoong lang araw-araw at magmumukha ka ring hunyango o abnoy dahil sa kakulangan ng mga bitamina at mineral na kailangan ng katawan mo pero di mo mabili dahil nga sa kahirapan. Irony nga niyan kung sino pa ang mga mahihirap siya pa ang saksakan ng dami ng mga anak. Punta ka sa squatters area at mapansin mong kinukuto sa dami ng mga bata ang mga kalye at eskinita. RH Bill lang ang makakatulong sa ganitong problemang ayaw solusyunan ng mga politikong corrupt dahil pag walang mahirap, walang boboto sa kanila. Mga mahihirap lang naman ang kayang bilhin ang boto ng mga kukurap-kurap na lider pulitiko. Ikaw ba ipinagbibili mo ang boto mo tuwing halalan ha, ad lev ad hominem?

  • Magsasaka

    labanan ng mangmang at hindi mangmang hehehe

  • Hey_Dudes

    In this instance or the kind of game CBCP wants to play if you will, it is the ultimate tyranny of a few clergy members seeking to impose their overbearing ancient ways upon the millions of Filipinos languishing in their ignorance on when and how they should bear children.

    If the catholic church hierarchy is serious in telling it’s flock – “More is Better”. why don’t they announce to those unable to care well for their children to deliver these children right at their doorsteps and see if they can handle the thousands born every hour adding millions every year.

    The catholic should stop meddling in government affairs.  The time is now. Cardinal Sin had been dead years ago and yet these CBCP hypocrites are hellbent in meddling no matter what.

    • abner

       bakit ba inaalisan nio ng karapatang makialam ang CBCP eh individual lang naman sila sa pananaw nio….kung kayo nga pakialam din ng pakialam..tapos gusto nio kayo lang????…. its more fun in INQUIRER…tlaga…

  • boypalaban

    wala pa ring maayos na argumento mga proRH…

    kanina pa ako naghihintay, paulit ulit lang…

    Dark Ages, Damaso, pedophile, CBCP….

    • abner

       hahaha   makakaramdam ng pagod sa comment mo ang mga iyan..haha

    • joshmale2004

      What is there to argue for the RH Bill when the RH Bill itself is already self explanatory for those who are going pro? It’s for the antiRH  to lay out their argument why they oppose the revised RH Bill. However, their arguments must rebut the content of the RH Bill which they do not like and not resort to name callings and profanities.

      • boypalaban

         at antiRH pa talaga ang inakusahan sa name calling…nag-iisip ka ba ha proRH?

  • boypalaban

    Congratulations sa sinumang proRH na may sense ang isusulat…

    puro na lang kasi DAMASO, CBCP, PEDOPHILE, DARK AGES, VATICAN….ang mababasa…wala sa tunay na issue….

    pakisama na rin sa babanggitin mga walanghiyang pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno…kung may sense nga isusulat ninyo…

     

  • notcreepy

  • notcreepy

     Oo nga. Ano naman kung dumami ang mga engot, edi may mga kasama tayo diba?

    NO TO RH BILL!

  • notcreepy

     Kaso mas magagaling at mas matatalino sila satin e. Kailangan pa natin maghakot.

    NO TO RH BILL!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQRDASE2HXIZ6R4QQ7LETHJTS4 Arvin

      No need…..people need RH Bill

      • boypalaban

        ikaw lang at ilang mga uto uto sa mga magnanakaw na pulitiko ang nangangailangan niyan…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DO7ACWCHNOOUPYEUWAEWXM5CDU TADA_SOLO

    This is a very sensible Bill and should be passed to help poor women in the Philippines and empower them to lead a life of responsible and decent living. This bill is not meant for the MALE chauvinist macho alpha Filipino. This bill is to liberate women from the abusive Filipino Male and their sexual predatory inclination to enslave and control women. LET THE WOMEN be FREE with the passage of this BILL.

    • abner

       At lalo pang dumami ang mga  magkakamukha sa pilipinas na dahil sa pills ay naging abnormal….sana di kau magroon ng anak na ganun sa kakapills nio.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQRDASE2HXIZ6R4QQ7LETHJTS4 Arvin

        Diyan ka nagkakamali…..walang direct substantial medical report na magpaptibay na ang contraceptive ay may side effect na sinabi mo abnormal….kung abnormal ang baby mo ay dahil hereditary yan nasa family ninyo yan from your great grand parents or pagkukulang sa mga babaing buntis na pangalagaan ang kanilang sinapupunan while buntis sila dahil inua ang iba……

      • abner

         muntik mo na ako mapaniwala na nasa dugo nga kase ba naman….magkakamukha silang lahat… kahit iba ibang apelyedo, lahi ang pinanggalingan… eh yung kapit bahay ko eh pills nga daw ang dahilan parang hindi naituloy tuloy na pag inom ng pills tapus nabuo din.

      • joshmale2004

        So, ibig mong sabihin dahil di naituloy tuloy pag inom ng pill kaya nabuo at naging mongoloid. So sinong me kasalanan sa nangyari? Yung doctor na nagbigay ng prescription, yung pharmacy, ang RH Bill, si Pnoy? Lahat ng gamot kung di mo susundin ang prescription, may side effect. Kahit anti biotics, pag di mo ginamit ayun sa precription eh magkaka side effect. Kung yung kapitbahay mo eh hindi sinunod ang prescription at instruction bago ginamit yung pills, eh kasalanan niya yun at wag niyang isisi sa iba. Advise mo na lang siya na sa susunod na gagamit siya ng pills eh pag isipan muna niyang maigi at ipagdasal. Kung mag decide siya na itutuloy niya pag gamit eh sundin niya religiously ang instruction.

      • tamumd

        Anecdotal evidence has no place in science and medicine. Maybe that counts in saint making but not in the scientific world. Those claims have to undergo double-blind, placebo controlled trials. And the study size should be big enough to get enough power. What you’re referring to as evidence is just “kuro-kuro”. It’s an opinion of some ignorant person who make an inadvertent cause and effect connection without empirical basis whatsoever.

      • abner

         so bakit hindi mo nalang sabihin kung bakit ganun ang resulta ng mga mongoloid na iyon…nang saganun masuri ko ng husto kung bakit nagiging ganun…at natuto pa ako sa iyo…

      • tamumd

        Hahahaha..just by the very politically correct term you’re using to call these people (hint – this is sarcasm) is already showing how scientifically informed you are.

        FYI – Down Syndrome is a genetic condition that results in excess chromosome 21. Ideally humans have only 46 chromosomes (set of 23  pairs), but in this condition for some reason chromosome 21 ends up having 3 copies instead of just 2. That brings the total in someone with Down Syndrome to 47. The risk factors for this condition is advance maternal age when having babies usually after the age of 35. It also runs in families. So if you have family members that have this condition more likely you would see it again within your relatives if not whithin the same family. No where in the medical literature it’s mentioned that the pills causes Down syndrome.

      • Magsasaka

         hahaha mukha ka kasing mongoloid kaya masakit ang loob mo

      • abner

         haha ikaw ang mongoloid ang utak….eh nakita mo ba ako pra mahusgahan na mongoloid…??? ano nangarap ka/??   haha

      • Magsasaka

        aminin mo na kasi hehehe

      • abner

         secret….utak mo hindi..hahaha

      • joshmale2004

        The RH Bill does not only cover Birth control. Just read the bill so you will see all the benefits especially for our women. Besides, the Bill does not require compulsary use of pill. It’s up to you if you will use it or not. Birth Control pills are being sold legally since time immemorial and no one is complaining before until this RH Bill.

      • boypalaban

        o ganon naman pala e…binigyan mo pa ng tsansa utuin ka ng mga magnanakaw na pulitiko?

      • el_latigo

        Saan mo naman kinuha ang hinuha mong ang birth control pills will result to abnormalities? Puro ka naman speculations @ad lev pati argumentum ad hominen mong which are  none arguments at all. Mahilig ka pang mag-curse sa kapwa mo (sana di kau magkaroon ng anak) na  hindi panig sa mga rason mo na sa tutuo lamang ay trabaho o ugali ng mga taong may masamang pag-iisip.  

      • yaonglaan

        Doctor ka ba ? kung hinde wag ka ng magsalita basura lang nalabas sa bibig mo e o kaya gawa ka ng double blind study para ma prove mo point mo ha 

      • Magsasaka

         pagpasensyahan mo na tagasupurta kasi yan ni sotto sotto gaya gaya hehehe

      • abner

        and daming pinawalan ng pharmaceutical company dito ah…haha magkanu ba bayad sa iyo??? ah mas lalaki siguro kita mo pag gobyerno na bibili ng condom nio….

      • $29483279

         Pero hindi na siguro dadami ang anak ng mga pari dahil puede nang gumamit ng pills. he he he. Padre Damaso poor logic mo.

      • boypalaban

        galing ng logic mo…panatiko ng magnanakaw na pulitiko at sinungaling na mga taga gobyerno…

      • $29483279

        pansin ko iisa lang ang tema ng comment mo. Panatiko ng …..Yan lang ba ang laman ng utak mo?

      • Magsasaka

         nagtaka ka pa, hindi ba ginawa tayo base sa anyo ng ating lumikha, sige para maiba ka mukha ka na lang ng aso hehehe, pasintabi sa mga dog lovers

  • abner

    bakit kaya hindi FOI ang minadali ni pnoy…abs….eh ni wala nga kumukontra na mamamayan dun…at iyon talga ang magpapatuwid sa daan…eh ang nangyayari na ngayon eh liko likong daan….hay naku abs…

  • noypisiTED

    This nonentity always held the view that the RH bill’s secret weapon is no less than the president. In our governmental setup it’s the prez. who always had the first and last say – even without certifying any bill as “urgent” as long as he or she wants it passed errr… “railroaded” it will in no time get passed. And this is what awaits this controversial bill. Should the senate prexy insist in opposing the measure, which an overwhelming citizens of the Philippines approve of, he’ll most likely end up a collateral casualty after the smoke had dissipated. Besides, the insistence of PNoy stands on solid ground since he knew the problems concomitant to a runaway population like this country. Secondly, PNoy in good conscience supports the bill because it will help curve malignant problems of the nation which sprouted because of overpopulation. So without further ado – to our gallant legislators – let’s get it on and pass the gaddam bill now, as in ngayon na!

  • $29483279

    Iiisa lang naman ang problema sa RH approval:  Itong mga damasos na ayaw na mgkaroon ng voting sa Congress dahil alam nila nat talo na sila.

    80% percent ng mga pilipino pati mga katoliko ay ok sa RH bill approval

    Bakit sino-sopressed ang gusto ng bayan?

    • abner

       sinurvey mo ba ako??ha?? hehe pa referendum lahat ng catholics ng magkaalaman..

      • $29483279

         Alam mo ad lev Y damaso isa ka lang sa minority 20% na ayaw sa RH bill approval. Kaya kayong mga minority na gustong maghati-harian sa mga Pilipino makakabuti pa tumigil na kayo.

        At saka sa Congress ang botohan. Ang comment mong bakit hindi ka sinurvey tanda ng kamangmangan.

      • abner

        ikaw yata ang mali sa pagkakaintindi mo sa sinabi sa taas, na 80% ng pilipino….hindi ba ako pilipino??  panu ba nya nalaman na 80%??? hula hula lang…??? sinurvey ba??? congreso ba ang tinutukoy nia?? mukhang ikaw ang mali ang sagot dyan…therefore.ikaw ang mangmang..haha

      • taga_ilog

        adlev, huwag kang magsasalita kung di ka siguradfo sa sinasabi mo, kaya nga survey un eh, kung di ka nag-aral ng statistics, na halata namang hindi mo nga pinag-aralan, ay huwag ka na lang mag-komento dahil lumalabas na kulang ang pagkakaintindi mo. 

      • abner

        maari nga ang sinasabi mo..pero credible ba ang hula hula nia??hehe hula lang credible na..eh ganun ka din  pala naniniwala sa basura.

      • $29483279

        Iyan ang salita ng mga damaso pag nabibisto kamangmangan.

      • $29483279

         Pre, huwag na nating patulan ito mukhang talagang mababaw.

    • Magsasaka

       dahil lalabas ang patuloy na paghina ng kanilang impluwensya, dahil patuloy na nababawasan ang hanay ng mga mangmang kaya nga nakipagsabwatan ang vatican upang gumawa ulit ng isa pang santong pinoy para mapigilan ang paglaganap ng wastong kaisipan

    • boypalaban

      nagkakagulo na ba ang mga tao at magkakarebolusyon pag walang RH Bill?

      uto uto ka sa mga magnanakaw na pulitiko….

      mamigay ka na ng condom sa mga mamamatay na sa gutom…bilis!

  • denky31

    AQUINO;  Banking on the noise created by the RH Bill proponents visible thereat congress and malacanang is a deceptive overview which doesn’t encompass the whole. . Those mentioned noisy people are simply the hakot supporters of your secretary of health and the proponents who duped you into thinking that they have the support of the majority of the filipinos but the silent majority of the Christians of all denominations in our country despise the RH Bill because they knew that it’s against the words of God. and these are the very people whom you should consult before you plunge yourself to disunite our country.

    Mr. President, have second thoughts on the flight of your soul when you finally kiss the ground, because whether you like it or not, you’ll be answerable to God on the judgment day for your unforgiving action on the RH Bill.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YX3GNEI6FHCLMXK5ZKXKZ54WJA Kiam

       RH is against the words of God. Pls give a single verse in the Bible that says so.

      • Edward Castro

        wala naman kaya niloloko lang tayo ng mga pari

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Agreed.

        More like the word of god thru the roman catholic church thru the assembly of old men.

        that sounds about right.

        but to the devout Catholic, there is no difference.

      • boypalaban

        at ikaw niloloko lang ng mga pulitiko…

        nga pala, di ako katoliko….FYI lang..

      • boypalaban

         nasaan sa bibliya na pwede gumamit ng condom?

    • joshmale2004

      The President is only asking the Congressmen to put the bill on a Vote as soon as possible. He himself said, whether YES or NO wins, he will sign it into law. I don’t find any threat here.

    • brunogiordano

      “Mr. President, have second thoughts on the flight of your soul when you finally kiss the ground, because whether you like it or not, you’ll be answerable to God on the judgment day for your unforgiving action on the RH Bill.”

      Presumptuous and irrational statement pretending to know much about god.

      Sigurado ka bang kakilala ka ng god mo???

      • Magsasaka

         sigurado ako hindi nya kilala hehehe kasi kung ano lang sabihin ng simbahan doon sya, hindi nag iisip yan mangmang kasi pero kahit mangmang sya ang galing nyang magsinungaling ano hehehe

    • Magsasaka

       denky dong ang galing mo mangmang ka pero ang husay ng pagkakalinang sa iyo ng mga kaparian sa panlilinlang

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

      Did the priest do somehting about the the vendors of pampalaglag at the gate and vicinity of Tondo Church?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

     would “strain relations between the Catholic Church and the President.”Eh di strain na kung strain. Duh, hindi namin kayo kailangan sa government. Down with the unnecessary meddling of the roman catholic church since 400 years or so ago!!!!!!!

    • abner

       duh, hindi mo kailangan pero kailangan namin…at di ka naman katolik eh..talgang di mo nga kailangan.

      • taga_ilog

        Talagang ang relihiyon ay di na kailangan, di mo kailangan ng relihiyon upang maging mabuting tao o malaman ang tama sa mali. 

      • abner

        ganun?? mabuti naman at namumuhay ka ng mapayapa sa iyong kaluoban. nabuhay ka ng matino ng walang nagga guide sa iyo..good for you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

        yeah, you don’t need religion to know if killing a person is right or wrong.

      • Bullet Train

        I would rather be an atheist who abides by the dictates of my conscience than a religious hypocrite who goes to church but steals, deceives and makes our earthly existence hell. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

        eh di kung kailangan niyo, magsimba kayo. pero insisting on the bases of government policies because of your particular faith’s whims, aba, NO!!!!
        That’s the line. Gets?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

        therefore, ang ibig mong sabihin ang RH bill ay usapin lkang ng Katoliko Romano?

        ..wag maki-alam ang katoliko romano sa usapin ng estado para di  mabatikos..sasali sali kayo tapos ayaw nyo pala mabatikos…

        ..public policy requires public debate…wag magpuna kung ayaw mo mapuna…

        ..i thank you… 

    • boypalaban

       o mamigay ka na ng condom at contraceptives sa mga mamamatay na sa gutom…bilis!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

        problema kasi sa inyo eh binary solution ang tingin niyos a RH bill. no, it will cause a trickle-down effect later on… less unwanted children, less healthcare costs, less burden on society, the saved funds will go to job creation. You can’t just divert funds to job creation but then ceteris paribus (i.e., anak ng anak ng anak at ng anak pa ulit ang mga walang kakayahang magbigay ng disenteng buhay sa mga batang ito)

  • iping2sison

    In the event that Congress do nothing, suggest the two bills, RH and increases in tax rates for sin products, should be voted by the entire Filipino people and included in the 2013 election.

  • riza888

    This initiative would lessen the amount of both abortions and unwanted pregnancies thereby greatly improving the standard of living for many people who otherwise would not have access to such medicines.
    It seems like a simple choice of priorities: Healthy families, or adherence to ancient scripture?

    • joshmale2004

      Actually, if we read the content of the revised RH Bill, especially the Family planning and Birth control segments, well to do and rich people are already practicing these methods as they can afford to pay private consultations which normally charge P1,000.00 and imported/expensive medicines. Poor people can not afford these private doctors. The RH Bill is being offered especially to poor families so they will have equal access like the well to do families and a cheaper cost since Government will be subsidizing the cost. For me this is fair and humane.

      • Magsasaka

         i agree 100 percent

      • boypalaban

        magkano po ang condom?
        sobrang mahal ba?

      • joshmale2004

        What’s your point? 

      • boypalaban

        intindihin mo kung kaya mo…
        simpleng simple lang…

      • joshmale2004

        I know your point. But better if you come out straight forward and not let our readers guessing. So everyone can have straight forward and sensible discussion.

    • luzviminda88

      BWA HA HA HA. MGA KAMPON KO SALAMAT S INYO AT TALAGANG MASURUNIN KAYO SA AKIN. SIGE LABANAN NATIN ANG MGA KUMOKONTRA SA RH BILL KASI YAN AY PANUKALA KO NA IBINIGAY  SA MGA TAPAT KONG ALIPORES SA KONGRESO AT SENADO GAYA NINA SANTIAGO, CAYETANO AT LAGMAN. MAUTAK ANG MGA YAN KASI SA AKIN GALING ANG TALINO NILA. BANAT PA MGA KAMPON NG MAGWAGI TAYO. BWA HA HA HA

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BJDHYTRF4O2EQF26RPUNC5NPUY Riza

        YOU NEED HELP. 

        The Catholic Church preaches one thing and does another. Where were all these Bishops when pedophiles among them were being hidden? 

        This is about power and money and not about Christ.

      • boypalaban

         wala ka bang ibang argumento…puro damaso, cbcp, pedophile, vatican…

        kaya di ako makumbinsi…wala kayong maayos na argumento e…
        pero kumbinsido ako…uto uto kayo ng mga pulitiko…hahahahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BJDHYTRF4O2EQF26RPUNC5NPUY Riza

        Yes, it’s my priority na makumbinsi ka – NOT.
        Ikaw na walang original thought, comment ka lang ng comment sa post ng iba.
        But then again, a guy with your IQ should have a low voice too…hehehehe

  • kwapong654

    NOYNOY YANG MGA TSINO ANG ASIKASOEN NIYO AT BAKA BUKAS AY MAGISING KA NA IBA NA ANG NASA UPUAN MO. SIGE PAGPINILIT MO ANG GUSTO MO SA RH BILL HINDI KAMI LALABAN SA MGA INTSIK PAGSUMALAKAY SILA AT KAYO LANG NA TAGASUPORTA NG MAKASALANANG BATAS NA ITO ANG MAKIDIGMA.

  • jinx

    Whatever the result of the voting if in case, we can’t avoid the fact that more and more Filipinos are aware about the impact of bloating population on our resources. We’ve been through all kinds of leaders and it seems nothing has really changed in matters uplifting the plight of the poor. Of course the antis will always have the usual suspect-corruption, to blame.  But every country has one massive bureaucracy where corruption can never be eliminated.  Pnoy or Cory is the cleanest leader we’ve had since Magsaysay.  And who would be next? Bnay or Roxas? Do you expect them to eliminate corruption?  That’s why the poor should be empowered by educating them and giving them the chance to fight poverty in long term bases, not by dole-outs, but by starting to be responsible parents.  Being poor and having multiple children will not help them at all. It will only drive them to desperation and as always will be at the mercy of corrupt politicians. That’s why I go for RH Bill!

    • boypalaban

       “Being poor and having multiple children will not help them at all. It
      will only drive them to desperation and as always will be at the mercy
      of corrupt politicians. That’s why I go for RH Bill!”

      …pag may RH Bill na pala magiging maayos na ang mga kurakot na pulitiko at magiging concern na talaga sa mahihirap….haaaaay naku….

  • AJ Giorgio

    Michael Fajatin (reporter): pabor ba kayo sa “RH bill”?
    Babae: ha???
    Michael Fajatin: “RH bill”.. yung family planning.. pabor ba kayo dun?
    Babae: ah.. oo.. pabor ako dyan.

    • luzviminda88

      BWA HA HA HA. MGA KAMPON KO SALAMAT S INYO AT TALAGANG MASURUNIN KAYO SA AKIN. SIGE LABANAN NATIN ANG MGA KUMOKONTRA SA RH BILL KASI YAN AY PANUKALA KO NA IBINIGAY  SA MGA TAPAT KONG ALIPORES SA KONGRESO AT SENADO GAYA NINA SANTIAGO, CAYETANO AT LAGMAN. MAUTAK ANG MGA YAN KASI SA AKIN GALING ANG TALINO NILA. BANAT PA MGA KAMPON NG MAGWAGI TAYO. BWA HA HA HA

  • warpiglets

    is masturbating PRO or ANTI RH? haha

    • EOJ

       Mga seminarista eksperto dyan!

      • marionics

        LOL

    • luzviminda88

      BWA HA HA HA. MGA KAMPON KO SALAMAT S INYO AT TALAGANG MASURUNIN KAYO SA AKIN. SIGE LABANAN NATIN ANG MGA KUMOKONTRA SA RH BILL KASI YAN AY PANUKALA KO NA IBINIGAY  SA MGA TAPAT KONG ALIPORES SA KONGRESO AT SENADO GAYA NINA SANTIAGO, CAYETANO AT LAGMAN. MAUTAK ANG MGA YAN KASI SA AKIN GALING ANG TALINO NILA. BANAT PA MGA KAMPON NG MAGWAGI TAYO. BWA HA HA HA

      • kulittwit

         Ikaw ba yan lucy? OA mo naman. caps lock?!

      • boypalaban

         steven zahl iba username mo ngayon ah…

  • graciano82

    The impending showdown with none other but the roaring monster of Asia must be the main focus of your vigilance not this less important bill that is a duplication of existing laws not grossly funded according to sotto this 2013 budget.

    The defense security of our country should be your urgent priority to build up using all the available resources of the government. Our country is already in an imminent danger yet your main focus so far is this worthless RH Bill. Why sir? Is this Bill so priceless that you neglect the most pressing task to do? I am now inclined to believe the rumors that huge payola is awaiting you in the event this program is in full swing, galing daw sa mga manufacturers ng condom, at contraceptives. Nagtatanong lang po ginoong presidente.

    • yesyesyo

      I dont care about sotto the copier. he has no mind of his own.

  • EOJ

    ‘Tangna! pagbotohan na yan! Wag nang ipaabut sa bagong taon ang isyung yan!!

    Kahit ano ang desisyon basta matapus na!!

    • abner

      masmaganda kung i isang tabi muna yan….gagastos lang sa walang kapararakan…kung gusto ng masayang pamilya mag aral ng hindi lang panganganak masulusyunan kundi anumang problemang haharapin……binigyan mo nga ng condom eh tatanga tanga naman at tirang bahala lang dahil mangmang eh di wala din….eh di sagana lang ang mga pharmacuetical….ayos daw at tiba tiba na naman sila… naguyo na naman  ang taong bayan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        “Tirang bahala lang dahil mangmang” is a different story. The government is implementing a solution for the GROWING number of GROWING families who are unable to support their GROWING number of children.

        The RH is only a step in one direction. Maybe a second step would be to create a Productive Brain Bill.

  • virgoyap

    Majority of couples don’t know what is RH. Whether they are for or against it only the well informed people knew what it is all about. For most of the couples especially the mothers all they wanted is to have a  happy family. A family that is enough for them to feed, to cloth, to live decently and most of all to educate their children. I think it’s the role of the government to nurture the kind of family that is ideal for a nation building. And Reproductive Health is one of them. If this will be ignored it means that the government doesn’t care about the families where because of this economic development will also be affected,

    • AJ Giorgio

      Pro RH bill ba si senator Lito Lapid? Pro or anti, kaya ba nya i-explain ang RH bill at kung bakit sya pro/anti?

      • virgoyap

         Si Lito Lapid pareho lang siya sa maraming mga married couples sa Pinas. Walang alam he he.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KELBC2K3ZHQWVW7ZCFKZUDDSEU Marlon

    RH BILL NOW NA!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Get it over with, VOTE ON THE RH BILL NOW!! High time to empower the women and poor families. Give them the choice, not just dictating upon them what’s CBCP wants.

    PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!

    • abner

      ang sabi ng pro rh, vote now sa rh bill,…. ang sabi naman ng anti rh….hehehe mag intay kau..kahit pa presidente ka..hehehe

  • kulittwit

    RH is the way to go. Even Italy home of the vatican and the pope has RH. Spain where catholicism in the philippines originated has RH. Most catholic countries in latin america has RH law.

    • boypalaban

      hoy steven zahl bago na naman username mo…

      PARA SA IKAAALAM NG LAHAT PRO AT ANTI-RH: MAY BAGO NA NAMANG USERNAME SI STEVEN ZAHL…DECEPTION…STYLE NG MGA PULITIKO NA NANGUUTO NA INIIDOLO NG MGA PRO-RH….

  • Paliwaweng

    The Catholic Church basis on their defense of RH Bill is based on a book full of fallacy, written by sand-strewn ignorant men who declared that the sun revolves around the ‘flat’ earth, and the sun was created on the fourth day, while our earth was first.
    These shows an ocean of lies.
    How can they say that it was the fourth day, when the sun was not yet in place, as it is the determinant of our days and nights?

    • boypalaban

       wala ka na bang ibang argumento bukod sa Damaso, Dark Ages, irrelevant, CBCP, Vatican?

      • joshmale2004

        wala ka na rin bang ibang argumento bukod sa kurakutan? Facts dapat ang pinag uusapan sa RH hindi pressumption at kung anu anong topic.

      • boypalaban

         wala ka na bang ibang argumento bukod sa Damaso, Dark Ages, irrelevant, CBCP, Vatican?

      • joshmale2004

        Excuse me Pre. I never use Damaso, Dark Ages, Irrelevant, CBCP and Vatican in all my comments here. Tell me if you find one. Di ka lang senseless. Sinungaling pa.

      • Paliwaweng

        ..wala tayong karapatan o matuwid na sabihan ang kahit sino ng gusto nilang sabihin, isipin o gagawin. Pag may paglabag sa mga naturan, dyan papasok ang ating mga batas. Kuha mo ba kabayan?

  • totokalel

     why not also give priority and sign into law a bill criminalizing enforced disappearances in the Philippines…

    • abner

      naku?? sabi ni noynoy…eh FOI nga isinang tabi ko dissaperance pa ng mga tao jan…mahirap yan..haha…sabi…eh kung mga ampatuan nga di ko pa natatapos mag aaksaya na naman ako sa mga tao jan…hehehe sabi..tsk tsk kilala nyo naman si pnoy…noynoying…

  • Jimbox88

    Have the vote NOW!

    Now na!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AND7MQ5FERICDOIAUW56RYT45A tower_of_power

    From
    the standpoint of the CHURCH and the POLITICIANS, the more people there
    is the better for them. More people going to church means more money
    … same with politicians … more people means more voters … the more
    voters the easier for them to cheat … kaya dumarami ang mga
    squatters!!!

    Dapat malaman ng mga Filipino na mas maraming tao … mas mahihirap
    ang buhay >>> mahirap maghanap ng trabaho >>>>
    mahal ang lahat magmula tubig … electricity, galonggong dahil nga sa
    supply and demand.

    MAWA KAYO SA MGA NATUTULOG SA KALYE … MAAWA KAYO SA MG BATA SA KALYE … MAAWA KAYO SA MGA HINDI NAKAKAKAIN!!!

    PASS THE RH BILL NOOOOOW!!!!!!!

    • boypalaban

      “More people going to church means more money….”

      “Dapat malaman ng mga Filipino na mas maraming tao … mas mahihirap
      ang buhay >>> mahirap maghanap ng trabaho >>>>
      mahal ang lahat magmula tubig … electricity, galonggong dahil nga sa
      supply and demand.”

      nagko-kontrahan mga sinasabi mo…paano makakapagbigay ang mga yan kung mas hihirap ang buhay?…

      isip ka muna nang malalim bago magkomento…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        I think he means:

        Church – “More people going to church means more money….”

        Reality – “Dapat malaman ng mga Filipino na mas maraming tao … mas mahihirap 
        ang buhay >>> mahirap maghanap ng trabaho >>>> 
        mahal ang lahat magmula tubig … electricity, galonggong dahil nga sa 
        supply and demand.”
        The two statements are two different views. Who is failing in comprehension now?

      • boypalaban

        wag mo nang ipagtanggol ang sablay na argumento…

        paano makakapagbigay ang mahihirap nang ganong kalaking halaga kung hikahos sila sa buhay kahit marami pa?

        pabayaan mo siyang idepensa ang sablay niyang lohika…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Whether a person donates or not, more followers for the Church can only be good for it. Same for politicians. Bakit, nag-donate ka ba sa campaign funds ni Pnoy?
        Tama naman ang sinabi niya, more people = better for church or politicians.Tama din naman na marami parin sa mga tao ang isip ay mas okay kung mas malaki ang populasyon at ang kailangan nila malaman ay mas okay lang ito kung kaya suportahan ng ating ekonomiya ang malaking populasyon.
        Wag ka na magpalusot at aminin mo nalang na, kahit may konting sablay ang pagsabi ni tower_of_power, may punto parin siya at naghahanap ka lang ng rason para mang-away ng tao.

      • marithefrancois

        the poor are also big contributors to alms according to social classes. we are making vatican richer while staying poor. the church maintains the system. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

    Sa negative lang kasi nakatuon yang mga mata mo. Sayang, left and right pa naman yang gumagana mong mga mata. Sana hindi matuluyang mabubulag yong kanang mata mo.

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    NO TO RH BILL!

    Life is more sacred than anything in this World!

    • yesyesyo

      What’s the connection?

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        I don’t expect you to know….

        hahahaha
        hahahaha
        hahahaha

      • yesyesyo

         Stupid answer.LOL! You dont even know the connection. LOL!

      • boypalaban

        utak mo lagyan mo ng koneksiyon sa tamang pag-iisip

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      So… you’d rather see children growing up begging on the streets, at the mercy of their “owners”, the weather/environment, getting run over by vehicles, etc?

      Maybe you should examine your statement and, deep down, maybe you’ll realize that alot of us are just going for the lesser evil, which is a single; proposed solution rather than sitting around and waiting for a miracle that is unlikely to happen to all the poverty-stricken in our country.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        Having children does not equate to being wealthy, my friend….

        Being wealthy, equates to a lot of things like productivity, hardwork, perseverance, and a lot more.. “Children” are the least relative to being wealthy…

        Think about it…..

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Tell that to Enrile. Bigger population = more OFWs. He has no problems breaking up more and more families.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        Again, putting the blame on children for all the problems of marriage and family is plain unfair, don’t you think?

        And much worse, we as a nation are saying that just because we are poor, we must stop producing them…

        Don’t you think, it is better if we as a nation be more productive, be less corrupt, and put more hardwork in order to give these children a better and brighter future. Rather than doing the opposite by minimizing children, we can be wealthier by doing the same old comfortable things we are doing?

        Can’t we think of a better solution than RH bill in order to give these children a better opportunity for their generation?

        Think about it….

    • joshmale2004

      I agree to you that Life is sacred than anything in this world. But, how does that connect to the RH Bill?

    • xrisp

      Yes brother! Sacred is a word already erased by the pro RH in their vocabulary. For them, life is just something which should indulge in maximum pleasure until its death!

  • yesyesyo

    Bring it on!!!

  • Jimbox88

    VOte Now. We NEED RH BILL!

    The church wants only influence nothing more.

    • boypalaban

       ikaw lang at mga uto uto sa mga magnanakaw na pulitiko ang may gusto niyan…o sige mamigay ka na ng condom doon sa plaza na maraming nagugutom…baka makain nila yang condom…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Eh ano naman ang binigay mo sa kanila, pahintulot na pwede pa sila gumawa pa ng isa pang bibig na pakakainin kahit wala silang pagkain?

      • boypalaban

        o malinaw kinokontrol mo sila…

        kapag binigyan ko ba sila ng pagkain, magyayarian na agad sila?

      • joshmale2004

        Basahin mo muna laman ng RH Bill bago ka maghanap ng ka discussion. Lagyan mo naman sense ang argument mo.

      • boypalaban

        nabasa mo ba?

      • joshmale2004

        Wag mo baliktarin issue. Obvious na di mo pa nabasa iho.

    • marithefrancois

      agree, the more poor people, the better is the catholic priest’s hold on them

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    Put the RH Bill to vote!!!

  • joshmale2004

    Actually, if we read the content of the revised RH Bill, especially the Family planning and Birth control segments, well to do and rich people are already practicing these methods as they can afford to pay private consultations which normally charge P1,000.00 and imported/expensive medicines. Poor people can not afford these private doctors. The RH Bill is being offered especially to poor families so they will have equal access like the well to do families and a cheaper cost since Government will be subsidizing the cost. For me this is fair and humane.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TRITQJRMO45NEY7WISXNO7QII KapwaDiwa

    yung magvote FOR RH BILL, MASAYA SA ELECTION, Yng mag VOTE against it, magPACK UP, alsa balutan na kayo, siguradong that is the end of your days.

    • boypalaban

       masaya kasi ba naman may pork barrel…at marami pang pabuya mula sa malacanang…at sa mga lobbyists na mangangalakal ng contraceptives…bukod pa sa makukurakot pag naisabatas yan…at may mga nauto sila na nagpo-post ng komento dito sa Inquirer…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Kahit naman walang RH Bill meron parin mga kurakot, walang kinalaman yan.

      • joshmale2004

        Pare pareho lang kayo ng argument. Yung pro, panay Padre Damaso. Ikaw panay kurakot ng politiko. Wala na ba kayong mas sensible na argument based sa laman ng RH Bill?

      • boypalaban

        pagbali-baliktarin man ang mundo…pangungurakot lang yan…wala nang iba…kahit maubos na ang mga damaso…mangungurakot pa rin yang mga walanghiyang pulitiko na yan…at di pa rin aasenso ang mahihirap dahil sa mga yan…

        next year may ibang batas na naman ang mga kupal na yan…para may iba na namang pagkukurakutan…yun pa rin ang issue kunwari concern sa poor…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Wag mo ilabas ang galit mo sa mga kurakot dito. RH ang pinauusapan dito, hinde ang mga problema mo.

        Kung gusto mo talaga paglabanan ang mga kurakot na politiko, gumawa ka ng programa na turuan ang mga tao magboto kasi marami nang sablay na pumasok sa gobyerno.

      • boypalaban

        alam mo ba ang pondo niyan na ayaw aminin ni epal angas dynasty cayetano…na napilitan lang aminin nung na-corner?

      • joshmale2004

        No sense at all. Kala ko naghahanap ka kanina ng may sense ka discussion.

      • boypalaban

        at ikaw lang at mga anti-damaso lang ang may sense?

      • joshmale2004

        You said it. I did not.

      • yesyesyo

        Tanga! nag re release ng pondo ang DBM every quarter para sa operation at projects ng lahat ng govt agency kahit may RH o wala! Mga damaso palaging misinformation style nyo bulok!

      • boypalaban

        boploks! ilang condom nalamon mo kanina? ilang damaso ang sinubo mo ang kargada? kunwari ka pa damaso celdran badinger mamigay ka na ng condom wag mo solohin BOBO!

      • joshmale2004

        Basahin nyo kasi laman ng RH Bill para hindi kayo nabubulagan na Condom lang ang issue dito. Lawakan nyo muna kaalaman nyo sa nilalaman ng RH Bill bago kayo mag kontra comment sa mga nababasa ninyo. Hindi kung ano anong issue ang ginagamit nyo pang suporta sa AntiRH position nyo. Sino ang mahihikayat ninyo kontra RH sa mga klase ng argument nyo.

    • abner

      hula hula lang yan…hehehe ikaw ba ang sambayanan?

  • w33k3nd3r

    Heck, it’s about time.

  • disqusted0fu

    its one thing to pass a bill into a law and another to implement it. laws in our country are not properly implemented which gives the people the courage to disobey them because they know that at the end of the day, money talks. passing this bill into a law will only show its effects for the first few years or even months then once its not in the limelight anymore, people might just forget about it.

  • marithefrancois

    agree na naman. ang hirap kaya mag pakain kung wala namang opportunity like choice

  • pepito gwaps

    Ha.ha. Pag nakita na ni tamund, peter at joe yong sinasabi ka ay ako pa rin ang panalo sa huli. Kaya nga pinapayuhan ko silang magtanong sa mga pari para malaman pero ayaw nman.Maliit lang kasi ang mundo ginagalawan nitong mga to kaya maliit lang ang pt. of view nila. Pano mo sasabihin na merong ganon kung ayaw nilang tingnan sa sarili nilang mga mata.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

     “The Church cannot and must not pretend to have easy answers to the dilemmas facing men and women today. Instead, it must be an attentive and listening Church—only that way will people believe that God listens to them too.” –Cardinal Tagle, as qouted by Fr Bernas.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XKJOFX5OP2765EGTA6CXLUSQZM Run High

    Now let’s see who leads this country.  The church or the president who clearly represents the people in this issue.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NDH6O6PNTAJ23SNYTA6LSYY47Q Butuan

    AYAW TA PA ILAD SA ACLU.  SILA ANG NAG LOBBY/FUND SA RH BILL.  MAMAMATAY TAO YAN SILA SA AMERICA!  

  • AJ Giorgio

    The government should act now to protect its people. The church go out and see the real world. The poor people who live in squatters area don’t really care anymore.. to them, it doesn’t make a difference if you have 3 or 6 or 8 children. Their reason is, they themselves were born in poverty.. and yet they survived.. so why bother?

    What they don’t see is that there is a choice.. that their lives can be better. If you ask them, they would say, of course they want that, but the problem is, they’re buried too deep in poverty. They need real help to start changing their lives. Not the seasonal kind of help that corrupt politicians give them to remain in power.

    • joshmale2004

      Correct. The RH Law once passed is not about compulsary or forcing people to follow. The freedom to avail of this opportunity still rest with each and every individual. If some people do not like, then let them be. But for the majority of the people who want to avail of Government sponsored programs, health care and benefits, free parenthood guidance, by all means let them have a law to cover them. The RH Bill’s promised support especially to poor families is in no way different from the services and prescriptions given by high priced private doctors to well to do and rich families who can afford them.

      • Yxon

        kung voluntary, hindi ba andyan na ngayun yan? 

      • joshmale2004

        Yup. Yung lahat ng mga iba ibang lumang batas about Family and Health, pinagsama na lahat sa RH Bill plus mga bagong bill applicable sa generation ngayon. And in summary, ang bagong nadagdag sa proposed bill na to eh may kasama ng parusa at penalty sa mga LGUs and Government units like Hospital pag di nila binigyan ng service ang isang citizen na nangangailangan ng tulong nila. Di ba maganda ngayon to?

      • Yxon

        the problem is…will it be a catalyst to promiscuity in our society? …(research muna at magbasa)

      • joshmale2004

        I don’t think so.

  • pepito gwaps

    PRO RH are blaming the poverty of the Filipinos to the current population. Therefore,they are barking at the wrong tree. It is the good leadership, education and clean govt that hone the country to a better country not a population. Let the nature do the balance of our ecosystem. Dont worry all will pass away in due time and no need to hasten the process. Japan has more than 130M population, why she is very wealthy nation compare to us which is lesser in number. This country also are always devastated by calamities. Singapore too, a very tiny nation, small like Marinduque deprived of natural resources, how come they encourage her citizen to propagate more by giving 28 $ =1M php support for each couple. It means they realize that population play a vital role in nation building.

    • popeyee

      Ang Japan at Singapore ay maraming “pagkain” kaysa pakakainin. Sa Pilipinas, baliktad..AT isa pa, sa Japan at Singapore kakaunti ang corrupt…

      • pepito gwaps

        Tama po kayo dyan. Yon nga po. Hindi population problema dito kundi yong mga nasa gobyerno na puro kurakot lang at pagkakakitaan ang nasa isip.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Now your problem is that the people who either make laws or influence lawmakers are comprised of the kurakot. Good luck stamping that out. Meanwhile, there is a solution right in front of you, that doesn’t take 20-30 more years of street children.

      • pepito gwaps

        I pertaining to corrupt officials of course there are good men out there.

      • Yxon

        so ang  Rh bill talaga ang solution?…baka mas mainam unahin muna ang elimination sa corruption?.. this will only be just another avenue for corrution.  

      • pepito gwaps

        Correct. Illiminate corruption then we have so many surplus of wealth and all People will be encouraged to work fairly. More population, the merrier and it is very fast to progress…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Wahahahah eliminate corruption…. Good luck. Gumawa ka nga ng bill na magagawa yan. I will gladly support it.

      • pepito gwaps

        Ha.ha. Trabaho ng legislator yan oi.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Hahaha. Marunong magsalita, palusot lang pala ang kaya.

        Yan lang kasi kaya gawin ng mga may ayaw sa RH. Marami sa amin ang suporta sa inyo kung gumawa kayo ng solusyon kaysa puro lang kayo reklamo at palusot.

      • boypalaban

         sa Singapore binabayaran ang mag-asawa na magkakaroon ng anak…alam mo yon?

      • pepito gwaps

        D bayad. Incentive.

      • boypalaban

        thanks for the correction…
        mali nga ang term na ginamit ko…
        thanks again…

    • artz555

      Singapore has 13 times the per capita GDP, ( which reflects the standard of living of a country ) than PH mainly because of population, and that is 5 million  population for Singapore compared to 92 million population for PH. This is true because even if PH has a higher GDP of 412 billion US dollars, and Singapore has a GDP of only 314 billion dollars, ( dividing GDPs by populations ) gives Singapore a $ 59,700 per capita GDP and PH with just $ 4,214 per capita GDP. Having Singapore’s wealth, they or anybody can give whatever incentives it wants for it’s citizens for whatever purpose . Between the two countries, Singapore is way ahead but PH can catch up somehow by increasing it’s GDP and trying a slower balanced population growth.

      In regards to Japan, looking at the somewhat big difference in per capita GDP, in which Japan has about 8 times the per capita GDP of PH, the main reason is in the big difference in their GDPs ( GDP is the total goods and services produced by a country ), Japan has a GDP of 4.4 Trillion US dollars, which is about 11 times PH whose GDP is just 412 billion dollars, Dividing their GDP’s by their populations, Japan with a population of 127 million people has a per capita GDP of $ 34,700, while PH with a population of 92 million has a per capita GDP of $ 4,214.

      As everybody can see, it pays to increase a country’s GDP at the same time maintaining a balanced population growth, in order to obtain higher per capita GDPs and therefore higher standards of living for it’s people, which then makes solving other problems easier to do.

      ( All figures from Wikipedia )

      • pepito gwaps

        Thanks for the info. The next question is why is that the Philippines has lower GDP than those countries mentioned.  What they have which we don’t have. I think “popeyee” answered that already.

      • artz555

        One should look at history on how these countries emerged as countries, for some major reasons.

        Singapore, a city state, once a colony of Great Britain, was founded by British educated technocrats , lead by Lee Kwan Yu.. Yu and his planners endeavored to develop Singapore and increase it’s GDP with zero  graft and corruption and tight control of it’s people. With emphasis on education and research, it emerged as one of the fastest growing  economies of the world.

        Japan was a closed feudal society until the late 1800’s when it opened to the West and the world. With various setbacks in its endeavors and wars with other countries in the beginning, and being behind in knowledge and technology compared to it’s protagonists, Japan tried to learn as much and as fast as they can.  

        Lacking natural resources needed for industrialization, Japan’s highly resourceful people endeavored to copy and  improve on existing products and selling them to the world. After trials, errors, and refinements, Japan finally produced high quality products like cars and electronics and increased it’s GDP at a fast pace and became what it is now, an economic power.

        The Philippines, being rich in abundant natural resources, but with somehow fragmented groups of people and divided by islands in the 1500’s, it attracted foreign powers like Spain who was also looking for gold and natural resources and a faster route to the spices of the East. Spain, although educating the Filipinos of Western knowledge, used the the sword and a strong religion to control of PH for 350 years or so.

        Following the Spanish-American War, the United Sates after signing of the’ Treaty of  Paris ‘ with Spain, annexed PH as a territory and later a commonwealth beginning 1898, after a war with the Filipinos who wanted to be independent and did not want another colonizer like the US. Using educators like the ‘ Thomasites ‘, the US patterned its development of PH based on it’s culture and it’s type of government. The US finally granted PH commonwealth independence in July 1946.

        Looking at PH history as a country, having been controlled by foreign powers for ovev 400 years or so, it has a lot work to do to correct the ill effects of this long foreign domination, like the implementation of Agrarian reform and the bridging of the widening gap between the rich and the poor, not to mention how PH can deal with a strong church, all emanating from the baggages ( whether good or bad baggage ) left by foreign powers.

        If PH, with a well educated  and talented people, can solve, or meet the above challenges, PH can increase it’s GDP and catch up with the other advanced countries with no graft and corruption (  like what  Singapore did ) and maintaining a balanced population growth , thereby giving higher per capita GDPs or  higher standards of living for it’s people in the very near future.

      • pepito gwaps

        Thanks artz555 for your rich information on Singapore, Japan and Phil. History. Yeah, They prosper because they learned from their mistakes and others mistakes and they strengthened those weaknesses. So many things to do in the Philippines to reach that status. US Democracy is so successful because their citizens have initiative and have proper education and have the characters developed and forged by centuries unlike in the Phil. setting, people characters here are not good as those good qualities of US citizens. You give freedom here, people abuse it. You give power, leaders will abuse it too. So I mean the system of govt in the West is not working properly here in the Phil. because the people characters, beliefs and attitudes are very different from the west. Unless, the Filipinos will not become a responsible and law abiding and God fearing citizens democracy will never lift us from poverty.

      • artz555

        I agree with you with most of your points Pedro Gwaps.
        Add to those is a strong political will from good, well enlightened leaders ( like Pinoy maybe ) and other educated leaders who have learned from PH unique past history and experience.

        Having just left on it’s own to govern, just a few decades ago, it maybe hard to escape from the baggages’ and ill effects of  it’s long colonial past. But with a strong will and determination, PH should be able to solve and face it’s challenges, like the abandonment of it’s past bad habits and practices, the exploitation of the upper levels of society on the lower levels, the widening gap between the rich and the poor, the somehow continuing graft and corruption, PH has to do a lot more, and  should be able to rise from it’s past, and emerged as a unique economic power in the very near future, like what the Singaporeans and  the Japanese did to their countries.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      No, you are barking up the wrong tree. This is not Japan. This is not Singapore. Yes, Singapore wants a bigger population – because it started with controlling its population, focused on creating a better economy and raising the quality of life of its citizens. Now, it wants a bigger population because its population can’t support its growing economy, not the other way around, like us.

      Good leadership, education, and clean government? Education will lead to good leadership, which, in turn, will lead to a clean government. How can we get a good education when only a privileged few can afford the best education? 

      And why is that? Because our economy is ALL POPULATION.

      Our unemployment rate is around 6.9-7.1%, and that doesn’t even include part-time workers or underpaid professionals. 

      And why is that? Because our economy is ALL POPULATION.

      Why would a company, for ONE opening, hire a person who wants to be paid P15,000/month when. because of the huge pool of people looking for work, there are 10 other people willing to take the job for P10,000/month?

      Its easy to say “create more jobs”, can you do it? Our population is growing faster than the number of jobs that can support it.

      Lol… Compare Philippines to Singapore… If that were so, if our countrymen were given the choice of working in the Philippines or in Singapore, the result would be 50:50.

      Sad to say, it isn’t.

      • pepito gwaps

        We dont have clean governance thats why its happening. If i say clean it will start from the pres until the brgy tanod. If it is impossible to clean this chain of command who want to invest in our country. No investors, no jobs, no money. If there is no money, all the criminalities will come out including corrupt practices. So we need a morally upright and good leaders to do that. But the only problem i can see is from ourselves. Many filipino vote a wrong leaders and a wrong vote of leaders it means a decade of suffering. Because we got a wrong driver of our country. So sad to say talaga.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        So, now, you’re shifting the argument to electing the wrong person to be president? You want to tell our current President that the RH Bill wouldn’t be necessary if we had elected someone better to be our President?

        Seriously. I dare you.

        Keep on blaming other people. You choose to blame another person rather than a solution? No wonder the situation is getting worse.

      • pepito gwaps

        Rome never made in a day. As they say. So your population control also will not take effect in a day. Im not blaming other people, im blaming ourselves coz we elected wrong persons in the past. Our current pres is still doing his very best to improve our country and i think he is in a right track and come out effective. I wonder if His stand is the same with yours because tita Cory always pray rosary and supporting the church all through out her life so, are you not in doubt if it will affect his sons moral view?

    • AJ Giorgio

      You shouldn’t compare the present status of these countries. It won’t make sense. When Japan was destroyed after the war, it took a lot of years, before their people rebuilt their economy. And about the same time they were rebuilding their country, we started destroying ours.

      The government should use all its powers to control the people. And aside from the leadership, education and clean government, it will take years or even decades to fix this country. Controlling the population growth is a good start. Besides, it’s not like we’re going to stop growing, we just need to slow down.

      • pepito gwaps

        Yon nga eh galing pa sila sa wala at ngayon mas madami pa ang mga hapon kesa sa atin ay nahuli pa rin tayo sa kanila. Sa tinign mo ano problema…populasyon pa rin. I respect that it is your pt. of view.

  • GOPHILIPPINESGO

    Nag pa panic na ang mga anti RH. Nangangamoy talo.

    Yes to RH!

    • boypalaban

      ikaw amoy condom na!

      • stfu_moron

        naghapunan ka ata ng condom dre…lol

      • boypalaban

        o bakit napunta sa akin…di ba kayong dalawa ang magka-share…variety of flavors pa…hahahahahahaha

      • abner

         nagshare ba??? hahahahah

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    we need rh bill now…

    kasi bibili na ng condoms at pills ang gobyerno para sa mga malilibog na mga pilipino…LIBRE!…masarap yata ang libre…hahaha

    • Ronilo Yap

      di ka pa nakakagamit ng condom. di masarap pag may condom FYI.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ganun…dko yan alam…

  • amelius23

    There is enough time for members of congress to vote for RH bill. Whether pros  or cons on the RH bill, the congressmen and senators are mandated by our constitution to pass legislation and have it presented to he president for his approval or veto. Before the congressmen make a beeline to Malacanang for their  annual  Christmas bonus, we hope they will not left hanging in the fireplace their empty socks and expect Santa Claus to fill them up with  bonanza without voting on RH bill, pros or cons, as it may!!!!  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    Philippine population is increasing at a high rate every year despite the present poverty. our food production is not enough to feed the hungry poor, and the years to come will be tough if population is not controlled. we can see more street beggars, more rugby boys,akyat bahay, snatchers, hold uppers etc, the worse is chaos. we should set aside religion and God herein order for us to prosper. if we look at China they have population control and they are less believer in religion. China comes from a third world country decades ago to a superpower nation now.

    • boypalaban

      ganon?
      o ihanda mo na ang mga condom…may dadaan na super typhoon…kailangang kailangan yan ng mga masasalanta…

      manawagan ka na rin na kapag relief goods : CONTRACEPTIVES LANG…di na kailangan ang iba…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Kaysa pahintulot na pwede pa gumawa ng isa pang bibig na pakakainin kahit walang pagkain.

      • boypalaban

        may karapatan ka bang mangontrol sa gusto ng iba?
        mas type mo ba na pinapakialaman ka habang yumayari ka?
        …at mas priority pa pala ang condom kesa sa relief goods…
        ibang klase talaga pag uutak ng mga disipulo ng mga pulitiko…wala na….hopeless…

        oo nga pala…pangatawanan mo yang adhikain mo…
        mamigay ka ng mga condom sa mga biktima ng mga kalamidad…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Meron ba nakasulat sa RH Bill na kailangan nila gamitin yung condom? Meron ba pumilit sayo gumamit ng condom o.O

        Pwede naman nila avail yung free family planning. Don’t have to use condoms. Just think of what the people, who previously did not have access to family planning, could do with the knowledge. You can’t stop everyone from having unprotected sex. Not in this country.

        Wala naman nagsabi na bawal magbigay ng relief goods ah. Meron ba sa RH Bill clause na – “All relief goods must be in the form of contraceptives.”?

        Sorry to say, we know how you argue and it is so easy to rebuke everything you say.

      • boypalaban

        “Wala naman nagsabi na bawal magbigay ng relief goods ah. Meron ba sa RH
        Bill clause na – “All relief goods must be in the form of
        contraceptives.”?…

        gumagawa ka ng kuwento…sinabi ko ba na nasusulat yan doon?

        pero malinaw mas gusto mo pang ibigay condom kesa sa pagkain para sa mga biktima ng kalamidad…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        “may karapatan ka bang mangontrol sa gusto ng iba?”
        “mamigay ka ng mga condom sa mga biktima ng mga kalamidad…”

        “pero malinaw mas gusto mo pang ibigay condom kesa sa pagkain para sa mga biktima ng kalamidad…”

        Sorry pare, wala naman sa lahat ng sinulat ko na nagsasabi mas gusto ko mamigay ng condom kaysa relief goods. Ikaw po ang gumagawa ng kwento.

        Sad. Andali pahiyain. Hanggang away, asaran at bintang lang ang kaya.

        Ang gusto ko na mangyari ay bawasan ang dumadaming mga bata na nagiging street children. Ang ayaw ko, ay ganun sila lumaki, sa buhay ng kahirapan.

      • abner

         kung wala sa rh bill na kailangan nila gamitin yung condom…e bakit pa bibili sila ng condom para sa mga di gumagamit????

      • AJ Giorgio

        Bakit, sa tingin mo ba, yang mga mahihirap na hindi gumagamit ng condom, gusto talaga nilang magka-anak ng marami? Natutuwa ba sila tuwing sasabihin ng asawa nila na buntis na naman sila?

        Kung ako lang, mas priority talaga ang condom kesa relief goods. SA NGAYON.. After a few years, maa-appreciate din ng mga tao kung gano kaginhawa ang buhay pag konti lang ang populasyon. Isa pa, mas kokonti ang mangangailangan ng relief goods.

        Pag lumalaki na ang mga anak mo, lumalaki na ang gastos, anong una mong ginagawa? Di ba tumitigil ka na sa paggawa ng anak? Tapos dagdag trabaho para mapakain mo yung mga anak mo.. ganun din ang ginagawa ng gobyerno.

      • boypalaban

        “Pag lumalaki na ang mga anak mo, lumalaki na ang gastos, anong una mong
        ginagawa? Di ba tumitigil ka na sa paggawa ng anak? Tapos dagdag trabaho
        para mapakain mo yung mga anak mo..”

        malinaw na magandang trabaho kailangan ko hindi condom o contraceptives…di nila makakain yan o maipambabayad sa tuition…

      • AJ Giorgio

        yun nga ang sinabi ko.. dagdag trabaho. pero tigilan mo muna ang pagpaparami. yun na lang ang magagawa ng gobyerno kasi nandyan na yung malaking populasyon e.. hindi na yan pwedeng isauli..

        That is the most logical solution for any problem. First, STOP the cause of the problem. Then, FIX the damages.. kasi pag hindi mo pinigilan, walang katapusan ang pag fix mo ng damages.

        Besides, the government has been trying for years to produce enough jobs.. but continues to fail. There will never be enough jobs That’s why the problem needs a different approach.

        The population can grow easily and fast.. but employment and the economy can’t catch up.. It’s just impossible at this rate. Someone needs to stop so the other one can catch up.

      • boypalaban

        bakit di mo kumustahin kung saan napupunta ang mga pondo ng mga ahensiya ng gobyerno na magagamit sana para mapaunlad buhay ng mga tao?

      • abner

         kung konti ang populasyon ng pilipinas konti din ang nasa abroad para mapanatiling stable ang economiya natin…. sa mga tao tayo sumasandal bakit ito pipigilin???

      • AJ Giorgio

        ok yun. baka sakali, next year na bagyo, apat pa lang din ang anak nilang dadalhin sa evacuation center, sa halip na lima. di ba malaking ginhawa yun? sabihin mong hindi.

      • boypalaban

         ..at mas priority pa pala ang condom kesa sa relief goods…
        ibang klase talaga pag uutak ng mga disipulo ng mga pulitiko…wala na….hopeless…

      • abner

         hahahha

  • barangayboso

    whatever the result of this vote, Im still in favor of RH bill..

    • boypalaban

      pag naisabatas na yan…wag lang mag-alala…mas marami ka nang brand na pagpipilian…piliin mo yung manipis…yung halos parang walang balot…handog pamasko ng mga walanghiyang pulitiko….

      • barangayboso

        we have the money to buy pills so i will leave the condoms to you..

        I don’t know with others but me and my wife, we’ve proven that Family planning works wonders.. reason enough for me to say YES to this bill..

        Good luck to you..

      • boypalaban

        sa totoo lang kayang kaya ko bumili ng contraceptives…pati mga pa-injection pero yan ba ang tama, yan ba ang solusyon?

        We have proven that Natural family Planning works wonders…di kailangan ng mga pekeng assurance gaya ng condom at iba pang contraceptives…

      • Ronilo Yap

        It works on you, how about the others? do you mean we are all alike in terms of NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING. Sure ka ba na di nagkakamali. My foot.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      KAILANGAN MAGING BATAS NA R.H NG MAKULONG ANG TERRORISTANG CARNIBAL TAGLE INUTUSAN NIYA SI ATIENZA SA MAYNILA IPAG BAWAL SA MAHIHIRAP ANG PAG PAPATALI KAHIT 15 ANAK NILA TERRORIST CHURCH!! LIERS”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    RH Bill para mapondohan ay gawing batas…Utos ng UN na walang “economic basis”.
    Marami nang batas, subalit pondo ay kapos…
    Hala sige, magpauto na lamang.
    Wag niyo nang iboto si Pia Cayetano…walang ka-sense sense ang mga plano…
    Tuwing lumalapit ang election, mukha lang at mountain biking palabas sa TV…tisay na walang saysay…
    Hahahahaha!

    • boypalaban

      sa lahat ng triathletes yan lang ang bukod tanging nag-angas…

  • stromboli67

    Since the church is opposed to this bill, I suggest that the supporters of the HR bill stop donating to the church and instead donate to the NGOs that help the poor with focus on helping their children.  Seems a good trade-off.  

    • Magsasaka

       yes, i will do this

    • AJ Giorgio

      I agree. Where does it go anyway? (the money donated to church) If the church says it’s for the poor, then they shouldn’t care.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ilan ba ang ORPHANAGES run by the church against run by the government…

        sa pagkakaalam ko, mas marami ang sa simbahan…

        do your own research also, para makita mo on your own…

        what about BORN AGAINSTS AND IGLESIA NI KRISTO???meron rin ba sila orphanages???mas malakas yata ang pera sa INK…at ang mga KULAFUS lang ang yumayaman…

    • boypalaban

      and the people supporting RH should start donating contraceptives to evacuation areas/centers instead of relief goods…kailangang kailangan na ng mahihirap…

      may paparating na supertyphoon…i-prepare na mga condom at contraceptives…para sa mga magkakasakit, magugutom, mauuhaw, ….

    • White24

       donate to Iglesia ni Cristo… hahahahaha,,, or to BORN AGAINST CHristians,,,, sure na sure ang tulong nyo.. :)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CARNIBAL TAGLE GIVE ME 100 MAGAGANDANG MADRE BUBUNTISIN KO LAHAT KAYO ANG NINONG SAMA NATIN SI BOYPALABAN DIBA SABI NINYO GO AND MULTIPLY” AT PAHALAGAHAN ANG BUHAY” LIER” CHURCH

      • boypalaban

        OK SA AKIN MAGAGANDA…
        YUNG MGA PANGIT SA YO NA…BAGAY SA ITSURA MO…
        MAS OK NA TAO KESA SA TRIP MO…MACHETE….HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    SINO BA SA DAMASO???na lagi tinatapon na image sa mga anti

    si DAMASO ay isang pari who cant live with his VOW

    a CATHOLIC WHO CANT LIVE WITH THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH…

    NOW….who are these catholics but PRO RH???

    THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE CATHOLICS, YET THEY CANNOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR RELIGION…

    SO NGAUN, sino ang mga DAMASOS????SINO PA KUNDI ITONG MGA HIPOKRITONG MGA KATOLIKO saying they are catholics but opposes the teachings of their religion…

    MGA PRO RH>>>NAKAKASUKA….LAHAT PAGBABABALATKAYO….akala mo hindi sila mga damaso…hahaah

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIBAL TAGLE HARI NG MGA KATOLIBAN AT TERRORISTA SA PILIPINAS”” KATOLIBAN AY SUMPA NG KASTILA SA PILIPINAS PARA DUMAMI ANG DESPERADO AT PATAY GUTOM”’ SAVE THE PHILIPPINES TO THE EXTREMIST CHURCH!!!

    • boypalaban

       o musta na ang mga tsinupa mong bata kagabi ha damaso?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      BOYPALABAN PINAG BIBINTANGAN MO BAKLA AKO GUS2 MO KITA TAYO AT PUWITAN KITA!!!

      • boypalaban

        AYOKO SA GAYA MONG WALANG PERA…SAYANG MODTA KO SA YO….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIBAL TAGLE SAY”REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN” IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      spam ka na bro…dami mga haters sa katoliko….hulaan ko, either BORN AGAINST ikaw  or IGLESIA NI KULAFU

      • stfu_moron

        7th_day sixers yan sila hija…lol..

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        7th day???bago yan ah..

        baka sabatista..or rizalista

    • boypalaban

       badinger…ilang kargada ba naisubo mo kagabi? enjoy ba?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      BOYPALABAN”’ IKAW ANG BADING ALAM KO SI BISHOPS OSCAR CRUZ KA MUKA KANG GALUNGGONG”’ GUS2 MO PUWITAN KITA MALAMAN MO KUNG BADING AKO!!

      • boypalaban

         AY MAHILIG TALAGA SA PUWET…BADINGER…WALA KANG PERA DI KITA PAPATULAN…KUMAIN KA NA LANG NG CONDOM…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN DELIKADO SA MGA MAHIHIRAP GUSTO DUMAMI BATANG PALABOY AT ANG DESPERADO NAGIGING UNSAFE ANG METRO MANILA SA DAMI NG ISNATCHER TINGNAN MO SIMBAHAN PUNO PUNO NG CCTVS CAMERA NINANAKAWAN NA SILA NG ABULOY PATI KAMPANA BUTI KUNG SILA LANG NANAKAWAN KAMI NADADAMAY DIN TANDAAN NINYO DI SILA BOBO TERRORISTA SILA LALO NAYANG SI CARNIBAL TAGLE HARI NG DEMONYO!!! PUNTA KA SIMBAHAN PUNO NG DESPERADO PAPALAKAS NA NAMAN NG NEGOSYO ANG KAMPON NG DILIM”VATICAN ALQEDA

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      GUSTO DUMAMI BATANG PALABOY AT ANG DESPERADO
      san sources na naman yan…

      BOY ABUNDA, ikaw ba yan???

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Eh alam mo na kung wala naman mabigay na solusyon, benefit ng walang RH, o walang lang talagang masabi.

        Yan yung mga reklamador ng Presidente na binoto nila, yung nagreklamo kasi naloko sila sa presyo ng Magnum, P50 binayad para sa P14 ice cream.

    • boypalaban

      EDGARDOPHILE…REYNA NG MGA BADINGER NA NAMUMUDMOD NG CONDOM…ANG TANGING TAGA KOMENTO DITO NA IPINAGMAMALAKI NG MGA PRO RH…ISANG DAKILANG MANUNUPA….

    • stfu_moron

      nag stuck-up ba CAPS LOCK mo dre?lol

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      BOYPALABAN ALAM KO SI BISHOPS OSCAR CRUZ KA NAG TATAGO KAPA”’ ISA KA SA KATOLIBAN SARADO ANG PAG IISIP!! PITIFULL UNGGOYYY

      • tamumd

        Hahahahaha..tapos hindi raw siya katoliko. Maybe he is just claiming that so that we could spare maligning the catholic church. lol

      • boypalaban

        takot ka na ba? naghahanap ka ng kakampi…sablay pa talaga..;pedophile yang bestfriend mo…

      • tamumd

        Me scared of you? NO way Jose! lol. Your arguments are just lame. So it’s worth being ignored.

        Last time I heard….the pedophiles are priests.

      • boypalaban

        concern ko ba yang mga pedophile na pari?
        yan lang ang argumento nyong mga proRH…cbcp damaso pedophile vatican dark ages….

        wala bang bago?

      • tamumd

        hahahaha it’s you who brought up “the pedophile’ issue. It wasn’t me…i was merely responding to your last rejoinder.

      • boypalaban

         BAKLA MUSTA MGA TSINUPA MO? AAMININ KO NA KATOLIKO AKO BASTA AMININ MO NA MAHILIG KA TSUMUPA NG MGA DAMASO…

  • Chris P Pnono

    YES ako sa  RH bill.

    r

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    Prangkahan na.  Dapat yong CCT ni Dinky Soliman ang i-divert para sa makabulohang poverty alleviation program.  Kaya pala nagkaroon ng Hyatt Hudas 10 (including Purisima) ay dahil sa mga impluensiya at pondo na pinapangako sa kanila.  Nagbakasyon ako sa Pinas lately, mayroon pa ring mga bata na umaangkas sa PUB/PUJ nanlilimos.  Tanong ko sa katabi ko, “ano bang ginagawa ng DSWD?”  Sagot ng katabi ko, “kasi talagang umi-escapo at bumabalik daw sa lansangan”.  Tanong ko, ulit, “Hihinto ba sila sa pagka-DSWD sa mga sitwasyong at problemang ALAM NA at may solusyon na? Siyempre ang tendencies na ganyan ay alam na ng mga social workers at deparment mismo. Baka hindi effective ang kanilang programs at TUTULOG-TULOG.  Magbigay na lang ng DONASYON sa “TULAY NG KABATAAN Foundation kaysa RH Bill na yan.”
    “TAMAD kasi at WALANG ALAM ang PRESIDENTE natin, kaya, kinokontra ang CATHOLIC CHURCH na matagal nang NANGANGALAGA ng mga kabataang walang masilungan noon pa man.  Hoy, TAMAD NA PRESIDENTE, wag mong ISUBO kaagad sa WALANG LAMAN MONG KOKOTE ang ENDORSEMENT NG UN.  Ano bang alam nila sa Pilipinas kundi NUMERO SA STATISTICA.  They dont even immersed themselves (not even make their feet wet) with us, but dictate us on what to do?”
    Hahahahaha!  Bobo at tamad kasi!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDUH7A744QYTM4DOOCM3AC5CVQ Robert Martin

       go mr president. i am for RH bill.

      • boypalaban

         go distribute condoms to the poor…to the streetchildren…to the orphans…

    • tamumd

      Funny how you noticed the vagrancy of these poor kids and yet you never connected them to the ballooning birth rate among the poor. That is the consequence of those poor families in places like Payatas and Baseco..having children like rats to the point they cannot even feed and watch these children grow up in the proper way. That’s the result when religion meddles in the affairs of the state. Lito Atienza, catering to the  whims of the CBCP in the early 2000s completely scrapped the Family planning clinics distribution of artificial family planning methods in Metro Manila. If your church is taking care of some of these children obviously it’s not doing enough. Otherwise you won’t have seen the perpetual presence of these nuisance kids in the streets begging.

      Tamad? really?…..the last time I heard in the news….we’re one of the few pockets of economies in Asia with the highest investors confidence. In fact few rating agencies has upgraded up a few notches short of investment grade. The IMF, ADB and WB are all praises about our good economic fundamentals. Sounds like you’re the BOBO one.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

        The International Financial analyst reported that the resiliency of the Phil economy is due to the high volume of overseas workers’ remittances (USD 24 bn, thereabout).
        Alam mo ba ang background ng kasalukuyang presidente?
        Ang OFW na Filipino ay hindi tamad…ang kasalukuyang presidente lamang.
        Halata FANS ka.  Bulag ka, eh. 

      • tamumd

        Nope that’s NOT the ONLY factor in the increased financial confidence in our country by the international financial community. If you listen to the discussion at Rappler on their Talk Thursday segment..they invited as guest the assistant economist of the Asian Development Bank. She talked all about this. We are not that stupid Jose. You keep ranting about the president being lazy…yet somehow miraculously good financial reports are sprouting left and right lately. Whatever the president is doing even if he is just sitting all the time according to you is working very well. lol. Are you a fan of the last little lady president coz you sound very bitter. lol I heard she doesn’t like the Ombudsman’s verdict. lol

        I heard the president even haven’t taken any vacation since he assumed office. There’s a plan for the first time that he will take that at the end of the year after some people’s urging. lol

      • Abdul Aziz Jawo Dizon

        @ jose,,, Ako Ginoong Jose hindi ako bulag,,, ikaw ang may problema sa paningin. Naka mulat at naka dilat ang mga paningin mo pero tila di ka nakaka kita… Saan ka bang lupalop ng mundo naka base… Kulang kaba sa pansin o gusto mo lang mag papasin kaya nanghihikayat ka na ikaw ay pansinin… Jose Kung SABIHIN KO SAYO o IPA ALAM ko sayo na sa bansang ROMA, ITALIA o SPANYA kung saan ang KATOLISISMO ay nag mula ay MERON na silang kani kanilang VERSION ng RH BILL.ano ngayun ang masasabi mo. Now ano ang dahilan bakit ang buong kapariaan ay tumututol (tanong ko sayo Ginoong JOSE) bakit di sila sang ayon na MAISA BATAS ang RH BILL… (ayaw kung mag conclude kung ano ang opinyon mo).
        Sa ganang akin gusto kong ISIPIN na tama ang pananaw ng karamihan na isang malaking BUSINESS ang SIMBAHAN,,, Aba saang balat ng HOPIA ka naman naka kita na GAMIT ANG SALITA ng sinasabi ninyong mga DIYOS na dapat ang isang TAGASUNOD o KAPANALIG  ay kailangang mag ABULOYo mag AMBAG o mag LIMOS (limos ang tawag nyo diba) sa inyong PANGINOON… Mga LAPASTANGAN kailan pa nangailangan ng MATERYAL NA bagay ANG LUMIKHA o ANG DIYOS ayun sa pananampalataya nyo…. PARA IPANGHINGI NYO NG LIMOS…(Ganon ba ka POBRE ang sinasabi nyong  Diyos) SO SA MADALIT SABI NEGOSYO o isang malaking BUSINESS gamit ang salita di umano ng siansabi ninyong PANGINOON… Kung maisasabatas ang RH BILL malaking tulong sa PANGKALAHATAN ang epekto nyan dahil BABA o babagal ang pag LOBO ng ating POPULASYUN na sa ngayun ay nasa humigit kumulang sa 92 MILLIONES… KAYA AKO I AM FULLY IN SUPPORT SA RH – BILL…PARA SA KAPAKINABANGAN NG BANSA AT NG SAMBAYANAN… HINDI NG ISANG SECTOR LAMANG…

      • boypalaban

         pasalamat ka sa idol mong si lagman…concern sa kababaihan at mahihirap yan…

        at ihanda mo na ang ipamimigay mong condom…may paparating na bagyo…kailangan nila sigurado sa evacuation centers…

    • Le Commentor

      Please don’t waste your time reading this person’s comment. Seriously.

    • Ronilo Yap

      Pumunta ka sa quiapo makikita mo doon ang sinasabi mong kinukupkup ng simbahan ang nanlilimos.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Anyone out there know how to change my username?

      I REALLY don’t want to be confused with this idiot.

      • boypalaban

        gamitin mo yung sa best example ng proRH…si Edgardo Mendoza…gawin mong Edgardo Mendoza2 ka…..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Kung best example ng pro-RH si Edgardo Mendoza, best example ng anti-RH si Herbert David.

        Gusto mo ba yon?

      • boypalaban

        ayoto…daming mura e….
        etong si edgardo sinasabayan ko lang…sablay e…minsan masarap din pumatol sa mga sablay…pantanggal stress….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    LETS” SEE WHO LEADS THE COUNTRY THE CARNIBAL TAGLE OR BENIGNO AQUINO”

    • tamumd

      Hahahahaha..Edgardo tinapatan mo si Herbert David at Boypalaban.

      • boypalaban

         ngayon mo lang napansin yan?  upgrade ka naman paminsan minsan…noon pa bastos yang si Edgardophile…

      • tamumd

        lol….I’ve noticed that for a while now. This is just the first time I am commenting about it. Hahahahaha…that’s why I said tinapatan kayo..hence pareho kayong bastos. lol

      • boypalaban

        well…marami akong kaibigang proRH dito sa Discus…medyo di ko lang kursunada banat niyang kaibigan mo….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        GANUN DI AKO TAKOT BASTOS YUNG CARNIBAL TAGLE NA MAHILIG SA REBULTO!! 

      • RiverHorse

        akala mo kung sino kang malinis kung makatira ka ng tao. naghihintay na sa iyo yung amo mo sa ibaba ng lupa, loko.

      • boypalaban

        IKAW MAHILIG SA MACHETE…MALAKI BA PARA SA BUNGANGA MO?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Haahahaha, tama ka diyan!

        Di ko na nga nakikita si Mareng Herbert.  Musta na kaya yon?

  • DOUANE

    Nakakagulat yung mga nag-uusap dito sa comments section. Kung miyembro kayo ng kanya-kanya niyong mga relihiyon, how come ganyan ang lumalabas sa mga bunganga niyo? Puno ng kabastusan at insulto? Is this how your Churches raised and taught all of you, pro and anti-RH?

    • brunogiordano

      Ano ang akala sa mga religion, mga santo???

      Lahat ‘yan ang interest ay kumita lang.

      Kita mo naman ang mga maraming post na BASTOS .

      • DOUANE

        Yun na nga. Ang punto ko, taliwas sa mga turo ng simbahan nilang lahat ang ikinikilos nila dito. Nawawalan na ng kabuluhan ang mga argumento. Kailan pa naging relevant sa RH bill ang chupaan?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

        Isa po yan sa tinuturo ng RH Bill, ang chupaan, same sex, etc.. para daw maiwasan ang pagbubuntis…

      • boypalaban

        tumbok mo kaibigan…
        kaya nga puro mga badinger namumudmod niyan sa mga plaza at iba pang matataong lugar…
        condom/contraceptive mentality….
        basta may condom…ok na……kahit di tinitiyak ng mga manufacturer na 100% safe yan sa unwanted pregnancy at HIV…
        kaso may mga uto uto pa rin….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    Kung BOBO AT TAMAD kasi ang kasalukuyang presidente, ganun na rin mag-SIPSIP at mag-ISIP ang mga FANS.
    Hahahahaha!

  • otoling

    Heto pa isang binababoy ng kongreso natin, ang RH bill. Mga gagoooooo, RH bill na lang ito.  Malinaw na ito ay kailangan natin.

    Ang simbahan katoliko ay binaboy nang binaboy ang sambayanan for 500 years, tapus mey lakas pa sila ng loob to say that RH law is not good for the country?  Bullshit ang simbahan nuong araw pa.

    Puro kayo negosyo, negosyo, negosyu.  Magigising din ang mga taombayan sa tunay na pakay ng mga simbahan sa taombayan pagdating ng araw, negosyo, negosyu .

    One instance ay pag lumindol ng 8 sa entire Luzon.  

    • boypalaban

      at ikaw ang dakilang uto uto ng mga magnanakaw na pulitiko…sige condom overdose…pagamot ka na…

    • RiverHorse

      ganyan din mga born-again – negosyo… kaya yung mga pastor yumayaman sa “donasyon” ng mga linoloko nila. kung nde ba naman negosyo bakit ireregister pa sa SEC yung kulto?!

  • otoling

    Buwisit ang mga senador na nagtatago sa hinde raw dapat ang RH law sa atin. Bakit naman? kaya?

    Ang sagot:  naghihintay ng mga bayad sa mga pamasiutikal companies. 

    • boypalaban

      malinaw sa sinabi mo na PERA PERA LANG TALAGA YANG RH BILL….thanks inamin mo rin….paki-inform na din mga proRH dito…

      • joshmale2004

        Di na kailangan ng mga Senador na PRO RH-Bill ang pera dahil umpisa pa lang, gusto na nila isabatas RH Bill. Yung mga kagaya nina Sotto at Enrile ang ipagdasal mo na kahit walang suhol sa mga pharmaceutical eh magbago ang isip nila at wag namang masyadong mukhang suhulan.

  • marionics

    di ba mas ok yung RH bill SHOWTIME? he he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SINGAPORE ISA SA RICH IN ASIA NA MAY BATAS NG R.H BILL SEARCH MO PA SA INTERNET!! BAKIT SA PINAS DI PUWEDE AT NAG WAWALA ANG MGA KATOLIBAN” KASI MAWAWALA NA DESPERADO AT PATAY GUTOM WALA NG MAG SISIMBA”HIHINA KITA NILA” SUMPA DAW NG MGA KASTILA YAN SA PILIPINAS PARA DAW DUMAMI DESPERADO AT PATAY GUTOM PARA LAGI KA TATAWAG SA DIYOS CARNIBAL TAGLE IS KING OF DEMONS!!!! BEAWARE AND SMART MGA PINOY TULUNGAN NATIN ANG MGA KABABAYAN NATING NABOBOLA NG MGA KATOLIBAN NA YAN” EDUCATE NATIN SILA”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

      Non sequitor!
      Hahahahaha!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

        puro ka naman Non sequitor, yan lang ba ang alam mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Malamang naman di niya alam ang ibig sabihin non: di niya alam ang tamang spelling.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    KATOLIKO AKO NGAYON NA IINTINDIHAN KO NA EDUKASYON ANG SULUSYON HINDI ANG SIMBAHAN KATOLICO GAGAWIN KA LANG NIYAN SUNOD SUNURAN NG MGA MONSINYOR KAYA YUNG ANAK KO SINABIHAN KO PAG IKAW AY SUMAMA SA RALY NG MGA CARNIBAL WAG KA NG UMUWI NG BAHAY NGAYON NAINTINDIHAN NG ANAK KO DI MO KAILANGAN YAN IKAW MISMO TATAWAG SA DIYOS AT DI MO KAILANGAN PUMUNTA SA SIMBAHAN NG DEMONYO GUMAWA KA NG MABUTI SA KAPWA MO AY SAPAT NA YUN!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

      Same reasoning with Noynoy, eh!

    • boypalaban

       DOON KAYO SA RALLY NG MGA NAMUMUDMOD NG CONDOM…
      ANG PAMUMUDMOD PALA NG CONDOM AY GAWAING MABUTI…
      SIGE MAMAHAGI KA PA….PENGE…

  • White24

    ITO ANG DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT MAY BAGYO NA NAMN,,,,, NO TO RH BILL

    • tamumd

      To superstitious , ignorant people like you..the goings on in the government is the cause of bad weather. How sad.

      • boypalaban

        cause ng bad governance ay stupidity ng mga sunud-sunuran sa mga pulitiko…

      • tamumd

        Your comment is off tangent. We’re talking about the weather here.

      • White24

        anu pa nga ba… alangan namn IKAW ang cause ng bad weather.. :)

      • tamumd

        Moron..neither I nor the RH bill has anything to do with the weather!

      • White24

        hahaha…. basta ang alam ko,, it has something to do with it.. :)

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    SINO BA SI DAMASO???na lagi tinatapon na image sa mga anti
    si DAMASO ay isang pari who cant live with his VOW
    a CATHOLIC WHO CANT LIVE WITH THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH…
    NOW….who are these catholics but PRO RH???
    THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE CATHOLICS, YET THEY CANNOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR RELIGION…
    SO NGAUN, sino ang mga DAMASOS????SINO PA KUNDI ITONG MGA HIPOKRITONG MGA KATOLIKO saying they are catholics but opposes the teachings of their religion…
    MGA PRO RH>>>NAKAKASUKA….LAHAT PAGBABABALATKAYO….akala mo hindi sila mga damaso…hahaah

    • marionics

      i think the reference they use is of the abusive and autocratic spanish friars he he

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        correct…abusive and autocratic…which are contrary to their vows and teachings….

        same with the damasos nowadays….THESE ARE CATHOLICS WHO CANT LIVE AND PREACH WHAT THEIR CHURCH SPEAKS….

        YET, THEY ARE TOO HAPPY CONTRADICTING TO THE PRECEPTS OF THEIR CHURCH…

        THAT IS THE DAMASO…

        AND PRO RH ARE DAMASOS

      • marionics

        not believing what a few bishops say does not equate to abusive and autocratic i think

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        it is wrong not because the bishops say so…it is wrong because time immemorial it is already wrong..magpapalit palit man ng mag obispo…ad hominem ka kasi lagi

      • marionics

        ok so time immemorial taht a few bishops say it…so? it does not make it true

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        and you believe that what is right or wrong is being determined by numbers???by majority???haha…what an idiot…

        contraceptives prima facie is immoral…kahit wala pang obispo…kahit walang katoliko..it is immoral…

        sa word pa lang na contraceptives…contra is a negative word…

      • marionics

        democracy is rule of majority so, yes, that is our system and that is what we have to follow.

        contra is immoral?…aahh…uhm…wow…uuuhh…ok…aaahh

        hahahaha

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        with that line of thinking…sige…honesty should be ruled as to moral or immoral according to majority….

        kaya pala marami na ngaun corrupt kasi ang tingin ng marami it is ok..and most are doing that…

      • marionics

        well that is what democracy is all about. but like everything else, democracy is not perfect. even Socrates hated democracy. Socrates tried to persuade his fellow citizens that he is indeed a pious man, because his philosophical mission has been carried out in obedience to the god who presides at Delphi. It is remarkable that this is nearly the only positive argument he offers, in Plato’s Apology, to support his claim that he is a pious man. The only other evidence he supplies is introduced only because Meletus, upon cross-examination, asserts that Socrates believes that there are no gods or divinities at all, an accusation far more sweeping than—and indeed contradictory to—the official indictment, which asserted that Socrates did not acknowledge the gods recognized by the city but instead believed in different and new gods. Socrates quickly points out the absurdity of this new accusation. Meletus, he notes, has referred in his speech to a certain strange divinity (daimon) who comes to Socrates to give him advice. Presumably Meletus has offered this as evidence that Socrates believes in new gods that are different from the ones generally recognized in Athens. But if Meletus admits that Socrates is guided by a divine being, then he cannot be taken seriously when he also says that Socrates is a complete atheist.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ahh..u wud rather believe to sophistry of socrates…

        but…good points from socrates…

        not each voice of the people is the voice of god…

      • marionics

        my point is, and with all due respect to socrates, democracy is the system we chose for ourselves (so to speak) and in this system it is the majority that rules and i guess everybody will just have to live with it and bear it and grin. otherwise, campaign for chacha he he

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        but not all can be decided by majority…

      • marionics

        i don’t know exactly what you mean but in our system of government we just elect our representatives in congress and in the executive by majority vote and then those elected have discretion to govern within the bounds prescribed by the constitution and by relevant laws. if we don’t like the way they do they jobs then we can choose not to elect them. that is the extent of the power of the majority, to elect only.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ok, lets vote…as the majority rules…

        that honesty is immmoral

        that divorce is moral

        that respect is immoral

        that same sex marriage is moral

        that speaking the truth is immoral

        that same sex marriage is moral

        that humility is immoral

        that rh bill is moral…

        woooaaahhh!!!

      • marionics

        you really can’t seem to stay on track in a discussion. so, so long

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        haha…pathetic…u cant see the thread..or maybe an excuse that u cant refute

      • marionics

        sure man. pareho na kayo ni pitiful. kilala mo yun di ba? hahaha

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        anong koneksiyon

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EWAM33FLS7BQEFYPE4MCIY3ZQ DANIEL

         talking about DAMASO as a trait of a person,so there are also damasos who are anti rh.priest who are pedophiles,sexual molesters, homos,corrupt etc.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        isa rin siyang rapist…babaero…mahilig sa pera…which, these action contradicts to his vow and christian belief…

        parehas rin ng ibang mga katoliko…THEY ARE PROUD DEFYING THE CHURCH TEACHINGS…HENCE, THEY ARE LIKE DAMASOS….WHO CANT LIVE WITH THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR CHURCH…AT HARAP HARAPAN NA HINDI SINUSUNOD ANG KATURUAN NG KANILANG SIMBAHAN…

        so, marami ng mga damaso ngaun na panahon…anti at pro rh man…hahaha

        isa ka rin bang damaso????hahaah aminin…dont lie!!!magagalit si santa claus

    • artz555

      ‘ Padre Damazo’ was one of the characters In Dr. Jose Rizal’s novels. He was described by Rizal as a  wicked and cruel Parish priest which Rizal believed as somebody that symbolizes Spain during the Spanish colonial era. Some people believed that Spain used the sword and a strong religion to give them a tight control of PH  and it’s people, for about 350 years or so.

      Because of this long colonization of Spain using a uniquely strong religion to complement the sword, this experience of PH on this uniquely strong religion is something very different, more strict and stringent than the other Christian religions that evolved in  Europe and other parts of the world. Because of the strong current  religion in PH ( which maybe represented by CBCP ) , many believe that these strong and vocal priests and Bishops in PH now, strongly resembles ( or described as descendants of ) the old Padre Damazo.of the Spanish.times.

      Everybody is entitled to his or her opinions and beliefs, and may not totally agree with the above characterization. This is just one explanation of who  Damazo is and why he is sometimes referred to, or often mentioned  in some discussions.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        so…are you a damaso also??? a catholic who cant live with the precepts of the church???dont lie…magagalit si santa claus

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    Hindi na kailangang isulat pa ang nakaraan ni Noynoy…alam na natin lahat.  Depende na lang kung fans ka ng “HALLELUJAH TUWAD NA DAAN” club.
    Ang RH Bill ay resulta ng KABOBOHAN at KATAMARAN!
    Hahahahaha!  Ano pa ba? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    ANG KATOLIKO AY SUMPA SA PILIPINAS NG MGA KASTILA!! PARA DUMAMI ANG DESPERADO AT PATAY GUTOM” AT BATANG PALABOY ITANONG MO KAY CARNIBAL TAGLE”’

    • boypalaban

      AT MGA GAYA MO ANG MAGANDANG HALIMBAWA NG PRO-RH MABUHAY KA PEDOPHILE EDGARDO MENDOZA….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      UNGGOYBOY PALABAN KUNG BUHAY PA SI DR JOSE RIZAL BINARIL NA SA ULO SI CARNIBAL TAGLE” CBCP BISHOPS TERRORISTA!! SUMPA YAN NG KASTILA SA PILIPINAS PARA DUMAMI PATAY GUTOM BATANG PALABOY AT DESPERADO” PARA TATAWAG SILA SA DIYOS AT LUMAKAS ANG KITA”

      • boypalaban

        BOBONG PEDOPHILE…ETO SINULAT MO HA:

        “KUNG BUHAY PA SI DR JOSE RIZAL BINARIL NA SA ULO SI CARNIBAL TAGLE”

        KUNG DI KA BA NAMAN SAKSAKAN NG KATANGAHAN…PATI SI RIZAL GAGAWIN MO PANG KRIMINAL…BOBO KA TALAGA…

        IKAW ANG PINAKAMAGANDANG HALIMBAWA NG PRO-RH!

        THANK YOU SA MGA GAYA MO NA NAGKOKOMENTO DITO….HAHAHAHA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIBAL TAGLE SAY” REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES” LIERS”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    See, the Catholic Church has long time experience in human miseries like these.  They never advocated the “popualtion control” or the RH Bill to solve the issue. The Catholic Church has HER OWN scientists, statisticians, social science scholars and a lot more. Just because the UN produce its TAGLINE, that we would heed to it. Are they that mature or under pressure from their business sponsors?
    The human sufferings, to include death, is part of life’s cycle.  Many of the commenters, which of course, are RH Bill fans sow fear, and reasoned the growing population could affect their being “comfortable” in their financial and social stature”….very funny and stupid.
    Hahahaha!  KAPAG BOBO at TAMAD ang presidente, ganun na rin mag-SIPSIP at mag-ISIP ang mga FANS!
    Hahahahahahahahahaha!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      ‘The human sufferings, to include death, is part of life’s cycle’

      Well, that’s the worst anti-RH Bill argument I’ve ever seen.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

        I must have forgotten the “IN BETWEENS”… the poor’s miseries (in living their lives) and the fear of the “economically stable” “KONO” that will be affected by them (when RH Bill will not be passed).
        Hahahahahahaha! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I am honestly ashamed I share the same name as you.

        I know a LOT of people do, but still, sharing a name with someone this stupid can’t end well.

        I might actually need to change my profile pic, just so I’m not confused with you.

      • pepito gwaps

        ha.ha. ikaw rin yan eh kunyari ka pa..”galit ang magnanakaw sa kapwa magnanakaw”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

        Now you go the Kris Aquino way!
        Hahahahahaha!  Emotional appeal over a self-inflected troubles…
        Hahahahahaha!
        Birds of a feather…fans forever!
        Hahahahahaha!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Self-‘inflected’?

        How on Earth is this self-‘inflected’?  A moron has shown up that happens to have the same name as me, how is this my fault in any way?

        I don’t think you know what ‘self-inflected’ means, as you clearly can’t spell it.

      • marionics

        hahaha akala ko namamalikmata ako yun pala magkaibang tao pala kayo hahahahahaha

        that’s a hoot!

      • marionics

        hahaha akala ko namamalikmata ako yun pala magkaibang tao pala kayo hahahahahaha
        that’s a hoot!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Hahaha, kailangan ko nalang palitan ang user name ko, hassle.

      • marionics

        hahaha akala ko namamalikmata ako yun pala magkaibang tao pala kayo hahahahahaha
        that’s a hoot!

    • tamumd

      If a scientist, statistician, social scientist is under the influence of an institution like religion..be very wary about the output they produce. Just like the works of the intelligent designer fringe groups of scientist called the Discovery Institute. They are the pariah of the international scientific communities. They make outragious claims yet..they cannot even produce research work published in peer-reviewed international scientific journals coz their work are a hoax not worth publishing.

      Another example..the Vatican last year organized an internal conference on stem cell research. When they found out that presentation of the speaker are against the church stance…they suddenly cancelled the conference. Hahahahaha….the catholic church sure works like a communist government. They love to suppress the truth if those go against their dogmas.

      You and your archaic minded, paranoid catholic minions continue to ignore reputable international bodies like the UN..however we will continue to heed their advice. You are the one sowing unfounded fears. Misrepresenting figures and study results just to support lame agenda.

      • buttones

        I have to agree, I cannot see how, ‘Catholic’ scientists researchers and all the rest, can, given the fact they accept Gardens of Eden, virgin births [I’ll get hammered for that one] can fly in the face of ‘science’. Religion is, by it’s very nature, irrational , faith is irrational – ok we would like to think a God is controlling all of what goes on, and it’s comforting to some to think that when our few short years are over, and we behave ourselves, a reward of everlasting bliss will ensue, Science cannot prove this is not so, and neither can it prove it is. That is the argument of many a Church scientist. Science can prove evolution, the history of the world, the creationist movements, who believe the earth is only nine thousand years old, and we all sprang from Adam and Eve have their heads in the sand. It is said, that God made man in his own image, [white naturally, and certainly not negro] which gave rise to the missionary movements of the last centuries to bring all these people into line- to commit what was basically genocide- the Spanish were the worst culprits. To be a ‘Church scientist’ is almost an oxymoronic statement, to be a scientist you have to have an open and enquiring mind. How can you do that when you belong to an organization that demands absolute faith in what that organization teaches?

      • ARIKUTIK

        Can the scientist explain why girls go Gaga at the sight of muscle boy. Some ladies and gents even commits suicide out of broken heart. The non scientist God believers explains it, as love. A powerfull force that can make one wish to live or die and God is love. RH bill is not love for it hates creatures. It is an idea of scientist who can hardly agree with each other. Countries who practice RH bill like anti baby are now enticing their women to create babies but the now disoriented women refuse. It was the scientist who convinced them before that babies are burden as in love is burden.

      • buttones

        It’s Darwinism, the animal urge to procreate, to continue the species, that’s what it is… that’s why the lady chooses the ’muscle boy’ he is seen as the strongest, it’s primordial, and what’s love got to with this? Love is irrational, it makes no sense… it’s comforting, and even animals mate for life but it is not out of ‘love’, it about a practicality…

      • ARIKUTIK

        Darwinism is about animals in which boys and girls belongs too but ladies and gents were set apart by virtue of ability to read Romeo and Juliet saga in emotions. It is love in human stories. The RH bill of baby genocide is with out love, like animals. I’m a human heart in love …. waaahhhhh ……….

      • buttones

        The so called ‘genocide’ you speak of regarding contraception, pales into utter insignificance compared to all the other ‘methods’ of warfare – don’t get too excited- as regards the assumption than human kind is somewhat ‘superior’ to what you describe as ‘animals’—wrong again….

  • rudy_boy

    I am for the approval of RH Bill. 
    Go President  Noynoy…
    Anti RH Bill Senators and representatives enjoys their comfort  ( i.e. Enrile, Sotto , Rufus Rodrigues et al )
    at the expense of poor Filipinos.
    Anti RH Legislators are actually ruining this country and forcing it down the
    drain. The poorer the People, the richer they are.

     

    • boypalaban

       pasalamat ka kay edcel lagman…tagapagtanggol ng peke, sinungaling at magnanakaw na isa mo pang panginoon si gloriaswang….at tagapagtanggol din siya ng isa mo pang idol si corokot…galing ng mga idol mo…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    Go Noynoy!
    Go kabobohan!  Go katamaran!
    Hahahahahaha!

    • boypalaban

      utak condom yan e…
      tulo laway…baka iniisip pang salo sa laway ang condom…

  • frudo

    magbotohan na sana ng magkaalaman na, tangapin nalang kung sino ang mananalo; 

    • Francis81

       Kung gagamit ng PCOS sa botohan siguradong panalo ang pro-RH.

  • mangtom

    boypalabanCollapseAT MGA GAYA MO ANG MAGANDANG HALIMBAWA NG PRO-RH MABUHAY KA PEDOPHILE EDGARDO MENDOZA….Sagut kay boytinfoil (a.k.a. boypalaban). Binaliktad mo ang katutuhanan. Ngayon sabi mo na si Edgardo Mendoza ang pedophile. For your information, my friend, yong diocese ng Boston, Mass. ay nabangkrap kasi maraming victims ng idols mong pari na pedophile victims na binayaran nila, as ordered by the court. Sino ang pedo ngayon? There are other cities in the States where the Catholick Church paid hundreds of millions of dollars to compensate the victims of sex crimes by the priests. Ano? Did I open your mind? Conclusion: maraming pari na sex fiends.Pass the RH bill

    • boypalaban

       dahil maraming manyakis na pari ok na yang bill ng kalibugan?
      galing ng logic mo…tulog ka muna…condom overdose yan…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        dahil walang batas, ibig sabihin maayos na may mga manyakis na pari? dahil may condom, ibig sabihin kailangan gamitin? magpakwento ka muna sa tatay mo, condom-syndrome lang yan.

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    Only a President who is single and do not have children can do such a thing….

    tsk tsk tsk….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      What a stupid comment.

      Sen. Pia Cayetano and Sen. Miriam Santiago authored the bill, and both are married mothers.

      • pepito gwaps

        speaking of being a mother ..are they strict mothers?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

        A secretary type-written something for his boss…and the signature of approval is of the boss…
        What a BOBO reply.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Barado yung original poster.  How is it a bobo reply?

        Though I suppose you ARE the expert on bobo here…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

        Just say “Hallelujah” to Noynoy god, that will do it.
        BOBO/KATAMARAN are given already.
        Hahahahaha!

      • boypalaban

        kumusta mga pamilya ng dalawang yan?

        sigurado ako alam mo yung nag suicide na anak ni miriam…

        e yung kay epal dynasty angas cayetano alam mo ba?

        bawal tsismis dito…yung totoo lang kung alam mo….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Bawal tsismis tapos nagtsismis ka tungkol cay Sen. Cayetano.  Sus.

        Basahin mo ang post ng original poster, tapos ang post ko.  Pagisipan mo kung bakit ko sinabi yon.  Kaya mo yan.

      • boypalaban

        ano ang itsinismis ko tungkol kay epal dynasty angas cayetano?

    • joshmale2004

      So are the Priest who are supposed to be celibate. Does that mean that the Priest can shout their stand against the Bill while the President can not? Rediculous comment. Tell me there no priest engaging in Phedopile and have not sired children from their girlfriends.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        Thank you for supporting and strengthening my argument…. =)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Please tell me you’re kidding, and aren’t really that stupid.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        hmmm……. no comment, just read the thread….

        tsk tsk tsk….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Wow, you weren’t kidding.

        I think it is time to work on your comprehension skills there.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        ok boss, whatever you say….

        just to give you an hint….

        the Catholic Church and the priests are anti-RH bill… enough said…

        hahahaha
        hahahaha
        hahahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Yeah, I’m just going to say you fail at logic and leave it at that.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        you wish boy…. =)

      • boypalaban

        dahil may mga manyakis na pari ibig sabihin maayos na yang batas ng kalibugan at pangungurakot?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        dahil walang batas, ibig sabihin maayos na may mga manyakis na pari?

      • joshmale2004

        Ikaw ang nagsabi niyan at hindi ako. thank you. Hehehe.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    By the way, just go visit the “Tulay ng Kabataan Foundation (of the Catholic Church)…
    Or study the works of the Catholic Church (like those orphanages) from the beginning.
    KATAMARAN and KABOBOHAN is a SHAME.  Don’t elect the same qualities next presidential election.
    Meanwhile, let Noynoy endulge his qualities.  He doesn’t even experience being a real manager all his life… so why the MOUTHFUL!

  • pololoy

    bakit ba mainit ang talakayan o hidwaan jan sa RH Bill na yan?
    because it is a MULTI-BILLION-PESO business…

    una, ginawa nilang dahilan ang populasyon. sobrang dami na daw ng mga filipino kaya naghihirap ang bansa kaya dapat daw may population control, pero ng ipakita ng china na hindi populasyon ang dahilan ng paghihirap ng isang bansa, inalis nila yan bilang dahilan at naghanap ng ibang idadahilan.. 

    pangalawa, ang kanilang bagong dahilan ngayon ay kesyo para sa kalusugan ng mga nanay.. 

    tsk tsk.. hanggang ngayon inuuto pa rin tayo ng mga @$%^& na yan…!!!

    bakit kailangang ipasa ang RH Bill na yan samantalang kanya-kanya namang gumagamit ng contraceptives ang mga legal at di legal na nagsasama, sa totoo lang…

    so, ano ang dahilan at bakit kailangang isabatas ang RH Bill na yan?

    ito ay upang ang pamahalaan ay matali ang mga kamay na itaguyod ang pag aangkat ng mga gamot at kagamitan para sa reproductive health law na yan nang sa gayon garantisado ang negosyo at tuloy-tuloy ang tubo ng mga negosyante at kung sino-sino pa mang makikinabang jan…

    • pololoy

      bakit hindi ganito kainit at pagpupumilit na ipasa ang Freedom of Information Act kung saan ang batas na ito ay malaki ang maitutulong laban sa korapsyon sa pamahalaan? 

      dahil wala kayong kikitain jan bagkos kayo ay mabubuking sa inyong gawain..

      • abner

        si noynoy ba pinariringgan mo??? asa pa tau…eh pangako nga lang eh…di nga kasama sa isinusulong na batas …talaga… walang kabalak balak…ipasa ang FOI

    • jashs

      tama ka riyan kaibigan, pera-pera ang usapan dito sa RH bill … these multi-national companies will not lobby for it’s approval for nothing.  ang masakit pa riyan kung anu-anong dahilan ang ginagamit.  di na lang prangkahin na maliit na ang market nila sa amerika at europa kaya humahanap na sila ng ibang mapagbebentahan ng kanilang mga produkto.  kung talagang para sa pilipino yan, itanong ninyo sa gumawa ng RH bill kung yung mga produktong nakakapagpalaglag at ang mamahal ay dapat pa ring resetahan ng mga doktor at yung mga gamot na di dapat nasa mercado ay di mabibili ng basta-basta lamang tulad ng ginagawa ngayon sa ibang bansa … kung ang mga nasabing gamot o pills ay isasailalim pa rin sa reseta o kontrol ng mga dalubhasa tulad ng mga doktor, ang RH bill ay masasabing para sa atin, pero kung ito ay mabibili sa mga drug stores o botika ng basta basta lamang, ang RH bill ay pera pera lang

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    Another NOYNOYING act…
    Hahahahaha!

  • PhoenixPoliticalParty

    I am wishing the President and his Liberal Party “Good Luck”.  May they have the numbers.   And may the collective wisdom of the Philippine Congress done justice to a bill that according to this article had languished for fifteen years on the legislative floors.  May the Philippine womanhood have final control of their bodies,  to have their say whether to conceive children or not.  May the bishops be proven wrong in their fears.  May Senator Sotto be reconciled with his grief for his child victimized by fatal contraceptives.   And may our islands remain above water after December 21,  that not only is the date the Congress votes,  but also the date the Mayans stops their calendar.

    • SignTheWaiverNow

      You missed the most important….

      May God Bless Our Country!

      by missing it, I understand why you are Pro RH Bill! =)

      • PhoenixPoliticalParty

        Thank you for the reminder.

        Here goes.  And may the blessings of independence, liberty, justice, and democracy be with us,  all the days of our lives.  Amen.

        N.B.  –  I do not wish to alienate citizens of other creed.  Above is the best neutral prayer I could come up with.  My apologies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SEM643C6KD4SXI6EATE4GXLMEU Jose

    As they frequently ask:  “WHO WAS NOYNOY BEFORE CORY DIED?”
    Hahahahaha!  The answer must be the RH Bill passage.
    Hahahahahaha!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      A senator of the Republic.

      So he’d accomplished more than you.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        accomplished what? please elaborate….

        fyi, lito lapid passed more laws/bills than him…

        tsk tsk tsk…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Is becoming a senator not considered an accomplishment anymore?

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        wow… becoming a senator is an accomplishment even lito lapid passed more laws/bills than you…. what can i say….

        now i know why you are pro-RH bill…

        tsk tsk tsk…..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Could YOU manage to become a senator?

        I think not.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HKLP2AAOAR42DF6ZSECKTURUOU Egon

        so being on a top post of a country and under performing is now an “achievement”. ok.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        No, getting into a top post of a country is itself an achievement.

        This isn’t really that hard to understand, people.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        well…. based on your argument then…

        a person who watches TV all day… still have an achievement…

        and you know what is that? he manages to buy a TV…

        what a lousy argument!

        tsk tsk tsk….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Could YOU manage to become a senator?

        I bloody think not.

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        i pity you….

        you seem to be lost with the definition of achievement and accomplishment….

        fyi.. below is the definition of accomplishment:

        ac-com-plish-ment
        1. The act of accomplishing or the state of being accomplished; completion.
        2. Something completed successfully; an achievement.
        3. An acquired skill or expertise: a singer known for his accomplishment in vocal technique.

        sobrang barado mo na ha… more comments please to show your intelligence…

        tsk tsk tsk….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        And how is becoming a senator NOT an achievement?

        I mean, really, this is really simple.  How are you lot not getting this?

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        you are hopeless!

        that’s all i can say….

        tsk tsk tsk….

      • abner

         eh ikaw naman eh noynoying nga eh.

    • notcreepy

      NOYNOY was “the RH Bill passage?” =p

      NO TO RH BILL!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Go ahead,funk…Make my day !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Hindi ako makapaniwala na ganito ka mga Tanga itong si Santiago,Cayetano,Lagman ,et al……

    • Francis81

       Hindi sila tanga, gahaman sila sa pera ng mga nagtitinda ng condom at pills.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Mukhang naman mga hayuk  sa…..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

         Di ko iboboto mga yan!

        Solid Catholic Vote!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        porke’t last term na ni Santiago…nagwawala na parang asong ulol….nauubos(talsik) ang utak sa kadada !
        Si Cayetano naman,gusto lang yatng maakyat ang bundok nya,tapos iniwan ang asawa,dahil hindi naabot ang kilbre nya ( demeaning sa isang babaeng Filipina ! 
        Hayun si Lagman,nagpagamit pa rin kay Little Girl at tiwala(hindi yata alam) sa taong opurtunista !
        Garin ? …tuta yata ni Ilongga Mirriam iyan !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

       Kasing tanga ng mga Pro-RH dito..

      • Cruxofthematter

        Right. Kasing tanga ng mga hindi nagsuporta at naghihirap na maghanap ng trabaho hanggat papuntahin na lang ang kanilang mga asawa sa ibang bansa at doon ay magkasala ng ibang mga partners. At doon na sila gagamit ng mga contraceptives na sila ay walang kaalam alam.

    • notcreepy

      Naku wag ka mag-alala. Sa comment history mo palang, panalo ka na sa lupet mo gumamit ng Carabao Inglesh!

      NO TO RH BILL!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Like kita..like kitang sipain !!!!!

  • kimo211

    bagong topics naman!!!!!!!!!yong  makakatulong  sa  pagsulong  ng  kabuhayan  ng  pinas!!!!!!

    • marionics

      di naman nakakatulong sa pagsulong ng kabuhayan ng pinas ang bagong topic e. ang pagtrabaho nating lahat ang gagawa niyan

  • abner

    panawagan sa mga PRO RH…tulungan nio na ang mga representatives nio…hehhe 2 araw nalang daw sabi sa tv patrol pag hindi nio naipasa wala..na…eh malabo naman talaga kahit pa magngangawngaw kayo dito….badluck sa inyo….

    • notcreepy

      Tayo na’t gamitin ang ating mga katawan at ialay sa ating mahal na representatives. Tayo na’t magpakarami!

      NO TO RH BILL!

      • Cruxofthematter

         And then blame the government when you can’t find a job. Right.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Listen to the PRO-RH Majority and not the catholic IMAMS.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      I agree with your statement in principle, but do we really need to use imam as a derogatory term?

      • Guest

        Isn’t in that context “catholic” the more derogative term? ;)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Hahahaha, ohhhh snap!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      dre, oo naman khit guni guni lng ung majority ng pinoy  pro rh kesa sa sinabi nyong catholic imams..

      hayaan nyo pag na approve yan, dadami na ang mga mongoloid at abnoy at kulang kulang na mga bata (d normal).bakit ko nasabi un? ito ay base sa karanasan…nung kinagisnan ko sa 80s meron akong ninang sa kumpil na naging head ng popcom at nagkaroon sya ng 3 sunud sunod na d normal na anak..naisip ko baka nagkataon lng o bka nmn wlang kinalaman ito sa pagiging head nya sa popcom..

      nanay ko rin nagkaroon ng tubal ligation noong late 80s na paslit palang ako.nalaman ko lng yan noong 2000 na..sabi ko sa poor nanay ko kung alam ko lng na nagpa tubal ligate sya dhil sa udyok ng doktor sa health center gagapang ako papuntang health center pra sabihin sa kanila hwag nyong gawin sa nanay ko ang tubal ligation…sa awa ng DIOS noong 2004 nagkaroon sya ng cervical cancer. noong 2000 napagsabihan ko na sya na dapat maglingkod kau sa Inang Simbahan bilang kabayaran sa kasalanang nagawa nyo.sinabi ko sa kanya sisingilin kau..bka magkaroon kau ng cervical cancer..at awa ng DIOS d nga me nagkamali..kailangan nya ng operasyon at doon naalala nya ako…

      Sa panahon ni Makoy pala nagkalat lng ang mga american size na mga condoms…sa panahong iyon dahil bata pa ako ginagawa ko balloon ang condom…

      Pag naipasa yan makikita ko na ang mga bagong sibol at anak o henerasyon ng mga taong nagsusulong ng RH bill na sa bandang huli sila din ang sisihin ng kanilang angkan..anyway, mga pinoy nga pala have short memories.. 

      Sa usapang Reproductive Health iniiwan ko sa bahay ang propesyon at karansan ko dahil naniniwala akong mas higit nakakaalam ang Inang Simbahan… 

  • $37824446

    too much debate on this topic. the solution is simple. all you do is give your wife/lover an asprin and tell her to hold it between her knees. problem solved!!! this way the couple are using the “pill” but with a clear conscience.

    • abner

       hehe mukhang sanay na sanay ah…mas gusto nila flavored na condom…at libre.

    • Cruxofthematter

      Opposing the RH bill is like saying to couples who make love – go ahead you must do it without anything. Is it also saying the same thing to those who are non-couples? The Vatican is silent. Which is the greater guilt- fornication or responsibility?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SUMPA NG MGA KASTILA SA PILIPINAS SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO TINGNAN MO DUMARAMI PATAY GUTOM AT BATANG PALABOY ISNATCHER NAGIGING UNSAFE METRO MANILA CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN CARNIBAL TAGLE AY MGA TERRORISTA!!! TAMA NGA SI DR. JOSE RIZAL!!

    • abner

       ganun?? pag pinag aksayahan o binigyan ng libreng condom si edgardo medoza magiging mabait na siya???hahaha…mawawala na daw ang snatcher…eh bka nga mangyari pa nian eh kumuha pa sila ng babae at pagpasa pasahan dahil me condom naman…eh sangganu mga un eh..dapat dun bigyan ng trabaho at ipakita ang halaga ng buhay…pinakamagandang trabaho nila??? pagnakaroon ng magandang grades sa school eh di bigyan ng pera…  para ituring nila na ang pag-aaral ay isang trabaho…

      • notcreepy

        >> ganun?? pag pinag aksayahan o binigyan ng libreng condom si edgardo medoza magiging mabait na siya???
        Hindi. Pero baka hindi na dumami yung bobo na tulad natin.

        >> hahaha…mawawala na daw ang snatcher…eh bka nga mangyari pa nian eh kumuha pa sila ng babae at pagpasa pasahan dahil me condom naman…

        Tulad natin?

        >> eh sangganu mga un eh..dapat dun bigyan ng trabaho at ipakita ang halaga ng buhay…

        Tama. Tara yayain natin mangholdap.

        >> pinakamagandang trabaho nila??? pagnakaroon ng magandang grades sa school eh di bigyan ng pera…  para ituring nila na ang pag-aaral ay isang trabaho…

        NO TO RH BILL!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

       Jose Rizal, eh sarado katoliko yun.. sa katunayan nga humiling pa sya ng kumpisal bago barilin sa luneta…

      Kahit elementary alam yun!

      • PhoenixPoliticalParty

        Paumanhin sa iyo,  ngunit kung Katoliko man siyang namatay, ang buong pagkatao ng bayaning si Pepe ay nagpapahayag ng pananampalayang sumalungat sa Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana.  Sa kanyang huling tula,  pinatunayan niya ito.

        “Ako’y paroroon sa walang alipin,  sa walang berdugo’t mga mapaniil
        Pagsampalaya doo’y di nakitil,  Doon naghahari ang may lalang natin”

      • Cruxofthematter

         Rizal was a Mason, haven’t you read? Check with Zaide. Let there be separation between church and state. The CBCP is nothing – it is a religious organization and SHOULD not even have a single word about state affairs. That is unconstitutional.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      JIMENEZ LIERS”’ PAANO SIYA HIHINGI NG KUMPISAL SA NAG PAPATAY SA KANYA OBISPO BASAHIN MO NOLI METANGERE BOBO”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      edgar mendoza sumpa ka ng mga kastila

    • RiverHorse

      ok, may ginagawa ka ba para sa mga patay-gutom na sinasabi mo aside from yapping your mouth off? until the time na may concrete action kang ginawa kaysa magyayayakyak at siraan ang mga pari’t obispo, walang kwenta mga pinagsasabi mo dito.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS SAY” REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES” LIERS!!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HKLP2AAOAR42DF6ZSECKTURUOU Egon

       kelan nila sinabi yun? di nga?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CARNIBAL TAGLE SAY” PAHALAGAHAN ANG BUHAY” REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

      • oraman

        simple lang kung kontra ka sa posisyon ng Simbahang Katoliko e di kontra pumunta ka sa Congress para kulitin ang mga mambabatas na ipasa na RH bill…..huwag katakutan ang Catholic vote dahil wala naman Catholic vote di tulad ng iglesia ni Cristo kung ano sabihin ni Manalo susunod ang mga miyembro nito…pumunta ka na sa congress huwag mo na alipustahin ang mga pari at mga katoliko…lumalabas lang na bully ka

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      edgar mendoza liar ka

  • Francis81

    Dapat si Ninoy at Cory nun ay nag family planning para hindi na sumilang ng isang abnoy at salot sa mundo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

      Sana nga pati magulang mo nag-family planning din para naman nabawasan ang isang STUP1D IDI0T na katulad mo sa mundo….

      • magiting78

        Wag mo awayin kaya glit yan s RH bill product sya ng butas n condom kamuntikan n hnd isilang s mundo hahahaha…peace…wag natin masyado seryosohin…hayaan natn mga pulitiko magdecide s mga yan, kaya natin binuto mga kumaggggg na yan para mag trabaho hnd para umabsent at sumahod lang…lolz

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

       Kung buhay lang si Cory baka natuktukan na yang abnoy na yan

      • Cruxofthematter

        Don’t ever mention the dead or abuse their name. Whoever they are. It is not proper. What if someone would abuse your dead relatives’ deeds and names? Write something that makes sense and can contribute – an idea, a suggestion.

    • Crysis_III

      ikaw rin sana hindi ka na ipinanganak para kunti nalang ang CRABS na katulad mo…hahaha. 

    • aristeosj

      salot sa mundo daw o…ikaso mo kung may krimen syang nagawa.

    • Cruxofthematter

       Too personal comment, no sense. Try something that is constructive.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/N2QA6YVV4JWJWH5OZ75MC5Y3ME BS

    RH bill can be passed in a matter of time if the president wants. Noynoy can order his allies if he want and yet the FOI bill which he promised to pass during election campaign still languishing in the commitee level. He is afraid of his own shadow.

    • notcreepy

      Ah ganun lang pala kadali yun. Pwede ka ba namin iboto?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HKLP2AAOAR42DF6ZSECKTURUOU Egon

         hindi pero yung idol na binoto mo, puede sana nya gawin yun. madali lang di ba? pero ayaw niya.

    • Cruxofthematter

       That is your wrong opinion.

    • dragon27

      Not as easy as you think, unless it was GMA, who blatantly used the pork barrel and even cold cash to entice the legislators. We don’t want the President using that tactics now, don’t we?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Yes,Mr.President,listen to Lagman,Cayetano,Santiago..et.al(ano ba ang mga character ng mga ito ????)…sila ang maghihila sa iyo sa kumonoy !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

       Ganyan ang presidente natin, umaasa lang sa sabi-sabi.. walang sariling paninindigan, walang prinsipyo…

      Dahil sa “Aquino” na apelyido nya. kaya sya naboto…

      • notcreepy

        Oo nga. Gaya natin.
        NO TO RH BILL!

      • Bayan Panona

        I beg to differ.. He’s way different from before when he was still a senator.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        pag walang prinsepyo iyong tao…buti pang mag resign !

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

         Inggit dahil talo ang idol nyang kurakot.

      • oraman

        sino kaya yun si Erap ba o si Villar

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PAG DI NAPASA YAN R.H BILL TANGA PANGULO NG PILIPINAS KUNG KAY MARCOS YAN BATAS NAYAN BAKA MAY DEATH PENALTY PA!! TINGNAN MO PILIPINAS UNSAFE DAMI CRIMINAL”’ LUMABAS LANG YUNG MAHAL MO SA BUHAY NAG AALALA KANA!! SINGAPORE HAVE R.H BILL AT DEATH PENALTY” ISANG MAYAMAN BANSA”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

       Hindi RH Bill at Death Penalty ang dahilan ng pagyaman ng bansang Singapore. Ang dahilan, walang katulad mo sa Singapore, halos lahat matitino.

      • Cruxofthematter

         Disagree. Singapore has stiff death penalty and other penalties. The bus drivers from China were jailed, the rest deported. The law is blind. There is a “virtual” RH law in Singapore – all the rules about decency, propriety and their strict implementation as well as their expensive University education is already like RH law. No one wants to have children. Too expensive. But in the Philippines, anyone can send his kid to the streets to beg, the roam around. Too much freedom. And even big drug syndicates go home free. Even those who massacre others are still there. We need stiff laws. Implementation is another issue. But without the law what is there to implement? If our implementation is weak, does it mean we should not push ahead with our laws? Is it because we do not the carabao yet, we should start building our cart? When do we start to think right? And work right? 100 years from now? If we always have this mindset of comparing ourselves with other nations and see how much they prospered without this or that, we are too myopic, narrow sighted and unwise.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      edgardo mendoza basahin mo noli me tangere. hindi ka nangungumpisal

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SUMPA NG ESPANA ANG CBCP KATOLIBAN PARA DUMAMI DESPERADO AT MGA BATANG PALABOY AT MAGING UNSAFE METRO MANILA SA MGA ISNATCHER BASTA BISHOPS AT SI CARNIBAL TAGLE DEMONYO” TERRORISTA”’

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      edgardo jimenez basahin mo noli me tangere. hindi ka nangungumpisal
       

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BUTI PA SI CARNIBAL TAGLE PAPASYAL LANG SA ROMA KUNG SAAN MAY BATAS NA R.H BILL SUSYAL SANA MAKARATING DIN AKO NG ROMA PARA MAKAPAG TRABAHO” VATICAN PINAG KAKAKITAAN LANG ANG MGA DESPERADO AT BATANG PALABOY”’ PARA LUMAKAS ANG ABULOY”’

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      edgardo jimenez basahin mo noli me tangere. hindi ka nangungumpisal
       

    • xrisp

      Go on. You’re nearing completing digging your own grave!

  • disqusted0fu

    RH bill = Religion vs. Head of state bill! angels vs. demons!

  • Alexa Villavicencio

    Alexa VillavicencioAB Sociology, UST
    To our respectable lawmakers , Please vote on the RH bill with our RIGHT, TRUE and MORAL CONSCIENCE grounded on man’s relationship with God

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