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Hear Mass more often to learn new prayers, suggests cardinal

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The Catholic Church will begin using the new English Missal in all Masses today, the First Sunday of Advent.

Manila Archbishop Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle said there should be no reason for Catholics to worry about keeping up with the new responses and modified portions of the prayers during Mass.

“When there are changes in the liturgy, it takes a long while before one can memorize it. My first suggestion is that for those who want to memorize the changes, go to Mass,” Tagle told a press conference at Ninoy Aquino International Airport upon his arrival from Rome last week.

“If a person only hears Mass once a year, you really won’t memorize it. If you go to Mass every Sunday or every day, it would only take two weeks to get used to the changes,” the newest Filipino cardinal added.

Tagle said Catholics should also find time to study the bases for and meditate on the meaning of the changes in the Missal, through catechetical publications.

Most prominent of the changes in the missal is the response to the priest’s greeting, “The Lord be with you,” which would now be answered with “And with your spirit” instead of “And also with you.” The new response is the more precise translation of “Et cum spiritu tuo” in the Roman Missal, which is in Latin, the Church’s official language.

Writing on “Thinking Faith,” the online journal of the British Jesuits, Fr. Jack Mahoney SJ, author and professor at the University of London, said “with your spirit” is frequently used in the Bible. The clause, he added, is used to place a person “within a reflective religious context” and commend him to God.

The International Commission on English in the Liturgy, composed of representatives of bishops conferences in English-speaking countries like the Philippines, began work on a new English edition of the Missal following instructions from the Vatican in 2001.

The new translation was presented to and approved by Pope Benedict XVI in 2010 and was started to be implemented the following year.

In the Philippines, dioceses adopted the changes in stages, with full implementation today, the beginning of the new liturgical year.

At the Manila archdiocese, the “and with your spirit” response was adopted beginning June this year. Changes in the Confietor (I Confess), Gloria and Apostle’s Creed were adopted in the following months.


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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

    What is the best prayer except those that comes from your heart and express in own words.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XY4AW6ZJBAPIJ33L7KX6M3IOQI c

       because not all people can pray in the same way.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        What do you mean not in the same way?  Prayer should be in silent from the heart not something ritual to be seen by the public.  One should close his eyes while praying and not look around especially looking at beautiful chicks.  These are God’s basic commandments.

      • Yxon

        ows..silent.?  secluded place siguro…at kung secluded, pwede na siguro opened eyes? pero ang misa po ng RC Church ay isang celebration and communion wt Jesus.  sacrifice 

        dalawa lang po ang God’s basic commandment :
        1.  love God
        2.  love your neighbor 

        golden rule pa po: donot do  unto others what you dont want done unto you

        meron pang maganda: love your enemy.

        have you done that?  and Jesus also said;  remove the log from your eyes first before mo pansinin ang puwing ng iba

        With Your grace, we hope we could follow your commands,  Lord.  For we are only humans, prone to temptation and sin.

  • Pablo316

    Rote memorization of prayers is inutile instead people should pray from their heart and spirit. They don’t need to be in a church building to do that but in their spirit they should pray directly to God who Himself is also a Spirit, that is why the Lord Jesus Christ said the following words:
     
    ”Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:21-24)
     
    Instead of religiously going to church on Sunday to hear what you’ve been hearing year after year, it will be much better to make Sunday a Bible-reading and studying day in a personal or group setting.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Yes, we can pray anywhere.  The problem with the Catholics is that they only make repetitive prayers but those are ritual as if to please man not God.

    • batangpaslit

      IF only the Roman Catholic Church parishioners would turn to the source of truth, the LORD Jesus Christ, they will come to their senses that indeed the Scripture is the inspired written Word of GOD.
      If only the devoted parishioners would investigate the Book of Hebrews, with the aid of the Holy Spirit to illumine them, they will be enabled to discover the Truth.
      May GOD the Father, help the helpless in unshackling themselves from the burden of the yoke imposed to them that even the RCC religious leaders could not carry it.

  • boybakal

    Hear Mass more often to learn new prayers, suggests cardinal….

    Nakakahiya naman po na panay ang tanggap ng Biyaya Spiritual wala naman pong pang Abuloy.
    Masama na po ang tingin noong nangongolekta ng abuloy, namumukhaan na ako.
    Kaya pasensiya na po kung di na makadalo sa misa,

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XY4AW6ZJBAPIJ33L7KX6M3IOQI c

       narrow-minded comment. tapos may pambayad ka sa internet para makabatikos, ano?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Ang pag-abuloy naman voluntary pero utos din ng Diyos na ang lahat ay magbigay ayon sa ikaliligaya ng kanyang puso at kita.  Sa panahon ng Kristiyano, wala ng 10% tulad ng ginawa noon panahon ng Israelita.  Ang problema sa Simbahang Katolika ay hindi lahat ay nag-aabuloy na utos naman ng Diyos.  Ang mga mayayaman at mga pulitiko lamang.  Kapag umalis at lumipat ang mga iyan, bagsak ang Parokya.

      • Yxon

        ayan ka naman mga comment mo na unfounded. hakahaka ba yan? sana naman yung first hand mo na experience para hindi ka magiging sinuggaling nyan.  it is what comes out of themouth that defiles a person (nabasa mo yan)? 

        pati simbahan katoliko penobroblema mo at nilaglagyan ng salita ako hindi mayaman, pero hindi naman pobre contribution ko.  at hindi po yan abuloy, for our God does not need it. sa amin po ay love offering yan, kasi galing yan from the heart.  

      • Yxon

        isa pa, gaano na katagal ang RC Church? wala man lang akon nalaman na parish church na nagsara, nagdagdag pa nga.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    What new prayers?  Is there such thing as new prayer?  What’s prayer?  It’s a communication with God.  Is Our God Someone New that needs new prayers?  Does God allow repetitive prayers like praying the rosary like that of the monks?  Does God accept all prayers?

    The problem with the Catholic Church is that she keeps on changing teachings and doctrines most often mere inventions.  For instance, the Bible teaches that baptism is by immersion in water but the church changed it to sprinkling of water giving the reason that it’s more convenient.

    • batangpaslit

      Noel, I fully concur with your view.
      A number of teachings of the RCC are man made dogma—-not/not warranted by Scriptures.
      I think, the parishioners must do dilligent research and investigate the truthfulness of these doctrines that are opposed to biblical teachings.

    • Yxon

      ever since RC church had not changed doctrine and teachngs; it is the same from way back.  It is the other sects who are. even the priest and bishops of the Church of England  are transferring to the RC church because of their changed practices.

      the new prayer as in the title is a play on words by the author. i have read thoroughly the content, there is none which says ‘new prayers’.  

      the change in mass wordings is to have one unified mass wordings based on the original latin mass.

      what you practice is different from the RC Church and we have no problem with that. just give respect to the belief of others. only they are the ones responsible for their fate.

  • $14334231

    lumiliit na po ba ang koleksyon ng simbahan????…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FMILZVJMPLRYOGFXL6PPNEVS24 Mike Arroyo

       Tanga.

    • Yxon

      kawawa ka namn igan.  yan lang ba alam mo?  time will come, you will nee Him.

  • tra6Gpeche

    Would hearing more masses lead to more contributions for the Church? Or will it help wayward Catholics, like those corrupt Filipino politicians, those Filipinos with two or more women and those that rob and kill innocent and peaceful Filipinos on the streets and inside their home, to amend their evil ways? Or maybe, if Filipinos will be inside the Church much longer and more often, there will be less crime outside of the church. Just like when all Filipinos watch the Pacquiao fight, crime is almost inconsequential.

    • Yxon

      you try to pray what you want to ask from God. 
      btw, walang bang wayward sa inyo?

      • tra6Gpeche

        Ang sagot ko sa iyo kabayan ay marami. May kasabihan ako na sa lahat ng gubat ay maraming ahas. Kung walang ahas, tiyak na walang magnanakaw  at yayamang pulitiko, walang mang-aagaw ng cellphone, pera, alahas at iba pa sa labas at loob ng Metro Manila at hindi magiging napakarumi ang simbolo ng Pilipinas na Ilog-Pasig. Titigan mo lang ang Ilog-Pasig at malalaman mo kung gaano kasama ang turing natin sa ating sarili. Kung walang ahas, tiyak na walang silbi ang CCTV at wala ng Pilipinang pupunta sa ibang bansa upang magpa-alila at lunukin ang kanilang napapariwarang buhay. Iisipin ko na lang na isa ka sa iilang mabuti at marangal na Pilipino. Ibig ko lang ipaalam sa iyo na wala akong pinapanigang relihiyon. Sa aking pananaw ay nasa mismong puso at konsensya ng tao ang pagiging mabuti at hindi dahil sa relihiyon.

      • Yxon

        yun ang tama at magandang sagot. no bitter comments. there is lot of contributing factors to the problem you presented. For the corrupt official, kahit na anong religion, magnakaw pa rin yan. seldom you see politician that is not stained by corruption. pera kasi madaling maksilaw.
        there is still a lot of work to do. our brothers and sisters who are spoiling the ilog pasig still needs guidance or its pure laziness for them; lack of government services could also be a factor. religion is just the catalyst; it still up to the person to decide to do good. even God could not force His will on a person.

      • tra6Gpeche

        As long as we do not think that we are the only one correct, we will understand each other more. Exchanges of civil ideas and perspective will move us forward and not backward! Have a good day, Kabayan!

      • Yxon

        YES, THAT’S OKAY. MINDING ONLY OURR OWN BUSINESS ON CONCERNS NOT OUR OWN IS OKAY. CIVIL IDEAS AND PERSPECTIVE ALSO INCLUDE RESPECTING OTHERS BELIEFS AND NOT IMPOSING OURS.

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    You pray that GOD shower your enemies and critics with blessings, lots of ‘em, so that instead of insults and harsh comments that they directed unto you, their heart might soften up and share their blessings to you!

  • Fulpol

    God can only remember a single prayer.. so everybody must memorize that prayer…

    • rbrtsmith

      God doesn’t only remember that single prayer, he sanctioned/made that single prayer..

  • UrHONOR

    PRAYERS are private and should not be taught.  Why pray the prayers of others?  Yan ang Manchurian Candidate syndrome ng mga naka-sayang puti….brainswashing with their thoughts and words.  Ang dapat na ituro ay ang pagdadasal ay isang gawaing pang-personal at kailangang manggaling sa kaibutran ng puso, hindi sa bibig ng iba.

    • Yxon

      ur honor, hindi lang naman puro misa ang katoliko. ang misa is our rites for worshipping and communing wt Jesus. meron rin naman kaming private prayers.  at 

      please naman, uir honor,  huwag naman masyadong mang alipusta, you are an educated man, and a good christian at that. no need to dicriminate on catholics who had done you no wrong. 

      at kung enemy man  kami, hindi ba sabi ni Jesus: Love your enemy?

      • UrHONOR

        YXON…..SANA naunawaan mo ang nabasa mo sa sinulat ko,  na unang-una, ay hindi ang paksa ng sulating ito.  Gayunpaman, tatapatan ko ang na-ipahayag mo sa aking nasabi.

        1)  WALA akong binanggit tungkol sa KATOLIKO.  Higit pa na may sinabi ako na PURO MISA ANG KATOLIKO.  Maliwanag yan kung babalikan mo ang nabasa mo.

        2) Hindi lang sa hindi ako nang-aalipusata, HINDI  ako “MASYADONG MANG ALIPUSTA”.  At kung mapapakita mo ang aking pang-aalipusta (copy and paste) at napatunayan mong ako nang-aalipusta, kaagad akong hihingi ng pagpapaumanhin sa nasabi mong pang-aalipusta.  KAILANMAN, hindi ako nang-aalispusta at WALA akong layuning mang-alipusta sa kaninuman o sa kung anupaman.  Kalimitan, ang ganyang kaisipan ay nabubuhay o binubuhay lamang ng nag-iisip sa kanyang isipan. Iba ang iniisip sa nababasa nila….ang puso’t damdamin ang na-uuna at pina-iiral kaysa pag-iisip.

        3) How on earth did you arrive at the horrible conclusion that I “DISCRIMINATE ON CATHOLICS”?  Show me where I discriminated against cathlolics….it’s all in your head….what you are thought is not what I wrote. Your thought processed something else other than what I said. Stay calm and collected when you read and understand very carefully the idea being expressed,  If there is doubt, ask.  Don’t jump to conclusions…that is RASH JUDGMENT.

        4) You don’t have to be condescending on my whether I am educated or not.  That is highly irrelevant to the issue.  You would not want me to tell you that if you were an educated person, you would not have had written what you just did, would you?

        5) Ang “KUNG” mo ay maling-mali.  NEVER assume anything.  Dahil maaari ko din naman sabihin na…. KUNG AKO ay hindi mo enemy, hindi ka magsasalita ng ganyan sa akin.

        You sound to be a reasonable person but misguided and “lost”.

      • Yxon

        unang-una,  the title of the article is 
        “Hear Mass more often to learn new prayers, suggests cardinal”. is the article’s subject not the Catholics? tapos, ikaw refer ka on prayers and all the others accusations.  ang labo mo, sana doon ka na lang sumulat sa editorial.

        you are not discriminating? idont know how you interpret your post::

        1.Manchurian Candidate syndrome ng mga naka-sayang puti
        2. brainswashing with their thoughts and words
        3. ang pagdadasal ay isang gawaing pang-personal at kailangang manggaling sa kaibutran ng puso, hindi sa bibig ng iba.

        were it just insulting? or were just putting words in someone’s mouth?

      • UrHONOR

        SO, asan ang ang PROOF ng mga sinabi mo?  

        1)  cathoilcs ka ng catholics….ASAN ang nabasa mong catholics….IKAW lang ang bumabanggit ng salitang catholic!  It’s all in YOUR HEAD.  Tou are thinking of something other than what you are reading.

        2)  WHAT’s discriminating about those items you enumerated…WHAT?  INSULTING?  What’s insulting?  You’re conscience is SO GUILTY of something that it finds factual and objective statements INSULTING.  Make declarative sentences, not interrogative to make your case persuasive.  Otherwise, quit making comments that are irrelevant, immaterial, and out of order.

      • Yxon

        THE TOPIC OF THE ARTICLE IS ON CATHOLIC…WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
        THE TOPIC OF THE ARTICLE IS ON MASS..PRAYERS…WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
        MIND YOUR OWN, IF YOU COULD NOT FOLLOW ON YOUR POSTS.

      • UrHONOR

        NAAAAAAPAKATANGA mo talaga……sa susunod, mag-aral ka  munang umintindi saka ka sumali sa usapang pang-matatanda.  KUNG ano-ano ang pinagpapaskel mo dito na para kang inquisitor na sali-saliwa naman ang pinagbubusa mo.  Hindi na kita papatulan pa at baka masita pa akong child  abuse.  WASTE of time.

      • Yxon

        huwag mo ipairal puso mo kesa ulo mo..hindi ka makaintindi nyan…aatakihin ka pa

  • UrHONOR

    LAHAT ng tinuturong dasal ng mga damasos ay pangbobola sa umpisa, tapos sa huli paghingi.  Kung hihingi, e di HUMINGI n kaagad at hindi na dinadaan pa sa pangbobola…..diyos, e, binibilog pa?  Isn’t that real funny?  Study the de-kahong dasal ng mga damaso at matutunghayan na ang structure ay kalimitan ganun…magpapaligoy-ligoy pa, e, hihingi lang naman pala ng pabor na akala nila ay may nakakarinig sa kanila bukod sa kani-kanila lamang.  Ang diyos na pinapalagay na all-knowing. alam ang lahat, ay hindi na kailangan pang haranahin ng kung ano-anong mga pangbobolang dasal.  Kung ganun na nga ang katangian ng diyos, hindi pa iniisip ang pangangailangan, alam na nya, di ba?  Samakatuwid, HINDI na kailangan pa yang mga tinuturo ng mga damasos na yan na nagbibigay lamang sa kanila ng importansya dahil sa kanila nanggagaling ang dasal na ginagamit.  Pinatataas nila ang kanilang mga pwesto sa larangan ng spiritual dahil sila lamang ang mag direct line sa diyos sa pmamagitan ng mga hoku-pkus nilang mga palabra de campanilla.

  • batangpaslit

    The old Missal is written in Latin that no Filipino parishioners of the Roman Catholic Church could understand, except those who had seminary training and were taught Latin.

    Why can’t the RCC teach their parishioners to pray from their heart, not/not the mechanical manner of prayer that Jesus Christ himself detest?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

    I plead with all humility! Catholic people please! wake up from your deep slumber! This is another manipulative teaching that will enslave  and control your own “freewill”.   Catholicism has evolved overtime. Almost 90% of its practices were conceived, taught and instigated by the Jesuits to deviously influence and dominate its “subjects”.

    I came to discover this when a friend of mine lend me a book (The Secret History of Jesuits) detailing the sinister scheme of Roman Catholicism to sway and control people.

    Prayer is a personal supplication with your “Maker”.

    Read the Bible and you will learn the truth.

    • Yxon

      would you mind to give us who the author of the book?  i have been reading the bible but i havent encountered any wrong with what i am practicing a a Catholic.any specifics that you could give?  please, for our enlightenment.

      • Ivideo

        I suggest you read the book “The Jesus Papers”.  If its not banned by RC here in the philippines then its available at any bookstore or go on line and search.  You will be enlightened not unless you refused to be or blinded by your fanatical belief in the Catholic religion.  

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

        The author is Edmond Paris.
        It is published by Chick Publications
        P.O. Box 3500, Ontario CA 91761-1019 USA
        Tel: (909) 987-0771
        FAX: (909) 941-8128

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BUTI NAMAN YAN NALANG ASIKASUHIN NINYO WAG NA KAYO HUMALO SA PULITIKA KATOLIBAN TERRORIST”’

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R27CZLXAJO4RXXTB7HG42ED7S4 WB

    Religion can be dangerous to your health, especially your MENTAL health.

    • Jomex

      true…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R27CZLXAJO4RXXTB7HG42ED7S4 WB

    Religion is all profit.
     
    They have no merchandise to buy, no commissions to pay, and no refunds to make for unsatisfactory service and results….
     
    Their commodity is fear. They blackmail their parishioners with threats of Hell and damnation. These poor deluded people give them their hard earned Money to save them from a hell that does not exist, and from eternal torment that was invented by the perverted minds of priests to rob the living and in addition, they are exempt from taxation! Insult to injury!
     
    Let me tell you that religion is the cruelest fraud ever perpetuated upon the human race. It is the last of the great scheme of thievery that man must legally prohibit so as to protect himself from the charlatans who prey upon the ignorance and fears of the people. The penalty for this type of extortion should be as severe as it is of other forms of dishonesty.”
    ( Joseph Lewis, “Ingersoll the Magnificent”]

    • Yxon

      try it yourself , you’ll love it.  

      please dont take qoutes from others, it’s their conviction not yours.worse you could be accused of plagiarism.we dont mind the riches that we gave, anyway we could not bring it with us when we die. and it is theirs to dispose and help those in need.if really  it is a fraud, it';s not ours to worry, it’s the suckers who would suffer.

  • delpillar

    Kahit anong gawin ng Catholics ayy talo pa rin sila ng INC at ibang born-again kasi sila (other than the Catholics) ay nakatanggapap ng FAX/Email Message from GOD kuno thru the bible.

    Yung mga underperformer, tamad, walang trabaho or gustong magkaperang ministro, usually galing sa Visayas at other southern provinces including Bicol ay usually sugo or evanghelista kuno ang kanilang mission kasi nakatanggap na sila ng FAX/email message from GOD.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

      Tama, sa Visayas nanggaling ang mga matatalinong cult leaders sapagkat mga uto-uto ang lahat ng Tagalog!

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    If a religion teaches the truth as well as true politeness and graciousness, I think “The Lord be with you” should be answered with “I’m fine, thank you.”

  • nizgoda

    Prayer is talking to god like talking to a friend. It is not monotonous or repetitive like a chant. Try chanting to a friend and tingnan natin kung du siya ma irita .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BJDHYTRF4O2EQF26RPUNC5NPUY Riza

    By the end of 2011, Catholic churches in the US provided churchgoers with helper cards with the new translations. By this time now, I don’t need these helper cards as much. But it does make sense, “And with your spirit” is necessarily right, anything else weakens the truth. We’re talking here about the things of God, and God engages with the soul. The beauty of picking up the original translation is that we are reminded that we do have a soul (or a spirit), and that its important enough not to have its meaning diluted.

  • monATmex

    it is so sad that the 1st instruction to come from Cardinal Tagle is not biblical and goes against the command of God ( Matthew 6:7, Christ calls this type of repetitive prayer as the prayer of heathens).

    the question then that begs to be answered is if Cardinal Tagle and his confreres are not speaking for God, who do they speak for?

    • regd

      Their church?

      • monATmex

        good answer :) 

        Next question,  if they don’t obey the God of the bible, who then is their God?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

        A lifeless idol named Sto. Niño.

      • Mike Henry French

         how about you? Who is your God? Manalo? a corrupt pastor? hahaha you suck bitter cults

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

        I worship Logic for in the beginning was Logic, and the Logic was with God, and Logic was God.

      • Yxon

        MInd you Mon :
        Jesus said, Not all who call me ‘Lord’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven

    • Yxon

      Mon, by the way you write I could deduce that you are a very knowledgeable person particularly in the Bile as you are qouting verses and you are from a different sect other than Catholic. and i am sure that what you know of the RC Church is from what your church and elders are teaching you.  
      My question to you: what is righteous with a religion/sect which dedicates its resources to the destruction of another christian religion/sect? is the action correct or justified?  didnt Jesus told us to 1)  Love God wt all our hearts,mind and soul, and 2) love ur neighbor as you love yourself.  Jesus even taught us to love our enemies. 

      • monATmex

        Yxon, I like the way you write. You use reason and not emotional ranting. To introduce myself: I come from a very Catholic family. There are a couple of nuns, priests and 3 bishops in our family. I myself was a seminarian for 3 years and so were all my brothers (except 1). I had my epiphany when I went to college where I accepted the Lord Jesus into my heart.

        The group that I joined NEVER tried to destroy RC. It just encouraged us to read the Bible, which I did and have been doing for the past 30+ years. The thing is, no religion/sect has to dedicate its resources to destroy Roman Catholicism. The Bible is sufficient to illuminate all the lies peddled not only by RC but by all false “Chtristian” religions.

        BTW, my dad (an extreme saradong katoliko) who persecuted me when I left the Catholic fold, died a Real Christian. His eyes were openned, as mine were, when he started reading the Bible. You know why he started reading the Bible? In order, so he claimed, to refute my “false” beliefs. I praise God because in the process it openned his eyes from HIS false beliefs that had shackled him his entire life.

        Roman Catholics are not my enemies. Some of my best friends are Roman Catholics but  Roman Catholicism is a different story. It has led and is still leading so many souls to hell. I will not stand silently by the wayside while this religion is leading some of my dearest friends and relatives to eternal damnation.

      • Yxon

        how could your 6 family members (couple of nuns, priests and 3 bishops) be wrong? had you consulted them on your doubts, unbelief, or whatever re the RC church? maybe they could had helped to enlighten you.
        I a Catholic, and a charismatic. I accept that there are deficiencies of the church is some aspects. But there are aspects also of the church that make me love it. I stand to the saying, that no religion can save you and ensure your going to heaven.
        on the other hand, really there is that deficiency among he RC churchgoers (but not all) on the Bible reading aspects. That is why the parishes, councils, GKK’s, and other RC organizations are doubling up efforts to elevate the members knowledge. And there is still a lot to do.

      • monATmex

        I agree with you wholeheartedly. No religion can save you. Even my religion right now ( I am a Baptist) cannot save me. It is only a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that can save anyone. I wish I could explain it to you in person.

        I failed to tell you. I was kicked out of the seminary for “rebellion.” Nothing was further from the truth. By nature, I am a prodigous  speed reader, in the seminary we were given biblical passages to read. I end up not only reading the passage assigned, but often times the entire book (Romans, Ephesians etc.). In seeing the context, I always ended up questioning our spiritual director why the Catholic doctrine we were studying did not jive with what the bible says? I was not rebelling. I was honestly confused. For that I was kicked out. I was disillusioned until someone shared with me the Gospel of Christ.

        It was after I became a Christian, with much prodding from my Dad, that my uncle-priest tried to address the unresolved questions of my seminary years. We ended up agreeing to disagree but I made him promise to study my questions in the light of scriptural verses alone.

        Many years later, he left the priesthood and is now a Pastor with the Evangelicals. As for the Bishops in our family, they were long dead even before my seminary years, physically and spiritually, sad to say.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

         I’m so touched with your stand defending your faith. As I am doing this reply to you, I’m crying with joy.

        I also came from a “Catholic family”. I’m so grateful with my mom….. she had inspired me put my faith in JESUS CHRIST alone. And I did.

        Physical death came to her last year peacefully.

      • Yxon

        your seminary maybe that mediocre for not able to answer up your questions.  a questioning attitude also does not merit you being kicked out. except maybe in cases of disobedience. as you know obedience is a must to be a good servant.
        I have also known some protestant pastors who had already came back to the mother church.
        there is no need to quarrel among us on who is the better, criticizing on another’s practices which had been there for thousand of years. you have your beliefs and we have ours. better to focus our  efforts on evangelizing others who had not known the Creator and those who had been astray.you are happy with your current life, please go on and may God bless you.

  • regd

    The buddhist and hindus make better memorize prayers. It is organized religion that gives God a bad name. The RC is just one of them. God uses people to build His kingdom and others use God to build theirs. Truly, Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

    After reading all the comments below, I can honestly say that there is still hope for humanity! I’m so happy that many Filipinos can see through the deception of the Roman Catholic church…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      And you based your conclusion on what, 10 or more posters, out of how many Filipinos, 95M? Are you even sure that me, mona, niz or riz are Filipinos? Duh…..

    • Yxon

      WHY MY BROTHER, WHAT IS THE DECEPTION MADE BY THE RC CHURCH. please clarify so that we may be enlightened and those affected could also answer to the accusation you made

  • James

    It’s easy to hate what you don’t understand.

    They say repetitive is boring and is against God’s commandment.

    Our hearing of the Holy Mass is a big “I love you” to God that’s why it is encouraged to attend everyday. And saying “I love you” everyday to God does not please Him?

    If a wife is very much pleased to hear “I love you”s from his husband more than once a day, how much more our Lord?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    pag madalas magsimba,,syempre mas madalas din ang kita….sa abuloy…

    • Yxon

      PLEASE READ THE COMMENT OF JAMES BELOW SO YOU MAY KNOW AND BE ENLIGHTENED.  FOR US WE DONT MIND OUR GIVING AND SHARING OUR T’s (TALENT, TIME AND TREASURES)  AS IT IS NOT OURS ALSO. 

  • divictes

    There is only one prayer that says it all and it starts with “Our Father…”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7US4SIEZOJLP4A3BQLYYDY6UWQ Kim

    Please read the Bible to know the truth…

    • Yxon

      YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ALREADY IF YOU HAD

  • ApoNiLolo

    Personal faith is one thing, religion is another. Other Christian sects de-emphasize RCC practices as irrelevant because its doctrines does not follow or can’t be found in the Holy book. But how sure are we that our very own reference could not be subjected to authenticity? To physically prove or disprove its divine origin is impossible.

    That’s why when it comes to religion, we set aside our cognition and just accept it as the TRUTH. Proving its truthfulness by “truth” itself. >: D

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    tANONG LANG: Bakit po ang binabasihan ng kasulatan ay ang Greek na sulat bakit po duon sa original na salita ni Kristo? Sir Kisto Jesus ay hindi naman ipinanganak sa Greek kundi sa Bethlehem, kung ang mga kasulatan ay sa Greek dapat i translate sa Hebreo para maibalik sa tunay na salita ng Kristo……

    Kaya po maraming pag aalinlangan at kalituhan at kaguluhan dahil hindi ibinabalik ng mga tao ang kalooban at gawa sa original na sinimulan sa kautusan ni Kristo Jesus.

    Kahit ang Israel(kung patuloy nilang susundin ang mga turo bago dumating si Kristo Jesus) at buong mundo….. hindi matatamo ang kapayapaan kung hindi natin ibabalik, tatanggapin at simulan ang lahat kay Kristo Jesus ang pagbabago ng sariling buhay, pamahalaan at kahit relihiyon pa.

    The Philippine government must stand as democratic government having a multilateral culture and religious belief and will not be affelliated to any religious group. The Pilipino people must stand in one flag and the constitution not to the influence of any religions group, civic and society groups.

    • Yxon

      NO PROBLEMO…BUT FREEDOM OF RELIGION SHOULD STILL BE RESPECTED.

  • Jomex

    Is Inquirer pro Catholic Church? I don’t read any INC, Protestant and other churches in the news lately? Inquirer should give equal time and write ups about other religions and no religion as well, dont you think?

    • ApoNiLolo

      The Catholic hierarchy always say controversial things which PDI think “sell”. The reason they are always at the forefront, among religious sects, when it comes to news. >: D

  • boshog

    Most catholics are spending too much time praying and waiting for their prayers to be anwered.  Most often they are not and when they are it is proclaimed a miracle.  I wish we spent some time looking for something productive to do than pray and wait.

    • Yxon

      really?  catholics are same as the average filipino; there those who are industrious , there are those who are lazy.  but it is not that way as you are overprojecting ..because for us FAITH WITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.

  • Jomex

    religion and politics in the Philippines are almost the same, they both thrive in personalities.

  • UrHONOR

    MASS….mass hypnosis, id est.  GAMITIN ang sariling kaisipan,,,huwag sumandal sa kaisipan ng iba pa.  USE your own brain for thinking, not for copying.  Binigay ng kalikasan ang utak upang gamitin sa pag-iisip,  hindi sa paggagagad ng kaisipan ng iba.  ALIPIN lamang ang sumusunod sa kaisipan ng iba. Ang pakikipag-ugnayan kahit na kanino…sa kaibigan, kakilala, kamag-anak, diyos, o kaninipaman ay ginagamitan ng pangungusap na nanggagaling sa kaisipan ng nagsasalita….hindi sa panggagaya ng salita ng iba pa na siyang pangunahing gawain ng mga loro….at mga UNGGOY.

  • tekateka

    CATHOLIC IS PAGANISM

    youtube this:
    Religion The Greatest Story Ever Sold
     

  • NoWorryBHappy

    Hear mass … OFTEN ??
    New prayers ?
    How will these new prayers put food on the table ?
    Put your fate on new prayers ?
    When the Catholic clergy open their mouth it’s like the devil talking.
    They are against the RH Bill but offer no solution to the country’s poverty.
    Their reason ? More poor people, more crime, more souls to save.
    More time to pray, no time to work, more people becoming lazy.
    The Catholic church is living off even poor people’s money from collections
    during the Mass. Shouldn’t the priests go to the farms and earn their lot, too ?
    God would not object to that, would he ? Filipinos should not listen to every word
    of the Catholic Church. One reason why the Philippines is a poor country is because
    of the priests’ bleeding hearts when corrupt politicians run to them and publicly declare
    that they steal the people’s money out of the goodness of their hearts to send their wives
    and children to shop abroad and have vacations in Switzerland. 



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