RH bill on menu in Palace lunch with solons



Monday’s “make or break” meeting between President Benigno Aquino III and members of the House of Representatives should determine the fate of the controversial reproductive health (RH) bill in the 15th Congress.

“On Monday, we will know the fate of the RH bill one way or the other,” Majority Leader Neptali Gonzales II told the Inquirer in a phone interview on Saturday.

Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez, however, warned colleagues against “railroading” House Bill No. 4244, or its “watered down” substitute, through the lower chamber.

Rodriguez noted that the bill was still in the period of amendments, which gives members an opportunity to further scrutinize it and introduce changes.

“They cannot just close the period of amendments just because there was a meeting with the President. It would be very, very arbitrary and oppressive. If they do that, we will go to court to stop the proceedings,” Rodriguez said.

Gonzales said that all 287 House members received invitations to a luncheon with Mr. Aquino in Malacañang on Monday. But he said the meeting was not for the purpose of ordering the congressmen to finally pass the RH bill.

Put it to a vote

“It’s not in his character to force a vote,” said Gonzales of the President. “Perhaps he will just ask if we could put the matter to a vote already regardless of which side would win. What’s important is that we don’t run away from the problem, that we don’t avoid having to vote.”

Gonzales said the Monday meeting would indicate whether or not the RH bill enjoyed the support of majority of House members.

For his part, Rodriguez was confident “more than 100” congressmen were against the measure.

Asked about the possibility of the RH bill being put to a vote tomorrow, Gonzales said: “It’s possible, yes.”

But for Rodriguez, the President should not “order the voting (on the RH bill) on the same day.”

“The President should not preempt Congress from introducing amendments,” he said. “There are still many amendments that need to be introduced. Just because there is a substitute bill does not mean it is already acceptable.”

Rodriguez said he had informed Speaker Feliciano Belmonte he would not be attending the Palace lunch. But other anti-RH congressmen were free to show up, he said.

“No one is prevented from attending. It’s an individual decision. But if the President is saying that the RH bill should be a conscience vote, we have to finish the period of amendments first,” he said.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    What’s hard about putting RH to vote?  Win or lose, they must vote for the sake of the people not for the church.

    • babyunborn

      People are members of the church! The church doesn’t only mean the clergy. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


    • babyunborn


      • babyunborn


  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


  • napali808

    This is a classic mano y mano. Pnoy needs to take the reins for the pro RH bill against the medieval, extremist church. He should just have the same resolve as when he beat these arrogant Damasos during Corona’s trial. He can’t count on the cowering cowards in the congress; they’ll always be a no-show. We get rid of these dead beats next election.

  • mangtom

    Takot si Rodriquez sa vote. Gusto niya delay, delay through dumb amendments. Tuta ng CBCP itong si Rodriquez

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Listen to the MAJORITY of Pinoys who want RH.

    Be brave like the Italian lawmakers who gave their people RH in 1970.


    Vote Now, so that it will end or either the unforgiving battle will begin.

  • brunogiordano

    “For his part, Rodriguez was confident “more than 100” congressmen were against the measure.”

    Kung naniniwala ka sa sinabi mo, botohan na!!!

  • brunogiordano

    Rufus Rodriquez, hindi namin kailangan ang yes vote mo.

    Ang nais namin ay tumahimik ka na at hayaan mag botohan.

    Mahirap bang gawin ‘yon??

    • feb142010

      well, he is part of the congress, so he has a right to vote :)

      • brunogiordano


        Bomoto siya kung ano ang nais niyang iboto.

        Hayaan na niyang magkabotohan ng magkaalaman na.

      • feb142010

        well, may right din siya to comment and introduce amendments :)

      • brunogiordano

        May right din ‘young mga congressmen na mag botohan na agad.

        Subaybayan natin kung sino ang masusunod.

        Sports lang at walang iyakan sa matatalo.

      • feb142010

        pati ba naman right umiyak, wala na din? :))

  • jurbinsky77

    Why not put in a referendum simultaneous with the elections? Just few months more to wait.

    Some politicians will be bitter if by now, the issue is resolved by brute force.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      i’ve been thinking of the same thing. so we can slap it to the faces of the bishops that majority of filipinos are really for rh bill

  • Hey_Dudes

    We read spate of killings everyday resulting from insignificant altercations, motorist road rage, murder mayhem, all sorts of criminality leading to rapes, maiming of innocent civilians not to mention insurgencies on two fronts?

    How much more people do we need to have in the country to know our culture is going downhill and our civilization being endangered by few resources being competed upon by millions of people?

  • just_anotherperson

    I am waiting for 3 weeks to pass to greet all Pro-RH BILL advocates a Merry Christmas and an Happy New Year.

    Let us see each other again in the next Congress.

    • sked482

      Advanced merry Christmas and a blessed new year to you too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFVPH2R22XWJ3Z6QOP3WBA6KA4 EC

    What Rufus Rodriguez and his cabal are doing is filibustering, pure and simple. These anti-RH people are a deceitful lot.

    • feb142010

      i am offended by this argumentum ad hominem.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        He’s clearly criticizing their tactics, so by definition it isn’t an ad hominem.

        It is also quite true, especially given that they’ve blatantly admitted that they’re only out to prevent the bill from getting to the vote a number of times.  I’d almost forgive them if their attempts were as hilarious as Tito Sotto’s, tbh.

        Oh, and if you’re referring to the second sentence, that’s a statement of opinion, and thus not an ad hominem either.

      • feb142010

        Oh, i thought he was using the statement to discredit our arguments by generalizing us as a deceitful lot. my bad then. :)

        Regarding the tactics, what other option do we have to voice out our conviction then? We’re left with none. I would prefer this strategy (so long as it’s legal and recognized by the procedures of the state), than use dirty tactics. Besides, we really disagree with some points :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Oh, I’m fine with you guys stating your opinions.

        My main issue with the Church is that they’ve essentially lied about the bill to their pulpits repeatedly, to the extent that the latest versions of the RH Bill have had to include provisions allowing people to spread misinformation about the bill to appease the Church.  Some of the rhetoric from the pulpits has also frankly been reprehensible.

        My issue with the likes of Enrile is that they’ve refused to allow the bill to come to a vote.  They may not agree to it, but not agreeing with something isn’t valid reason to never check if the majority of the senate / congress are in favor.

        All that said, it’s a free country, and people are free ot their own opinions.

      • feb142010

        I’m not really a fan of Enrile but if he says that he wants to introduce amendments (ergo, they don’t want to put it to a vote yet) , I guess he, and like any other, has the right so. If their procedures allow such as a valid reason, then I don’t find any problem there.

        Re: the lies that you claim the Church has been spreading, what lies? Also, do you know where we can find a copy of the latest versions of the amended bill? I can’t get hold of a copy.

        Re: opinions, Yes, I agree that we are entitled to our own opinions, but let us not forget the dictates of respect, justice and charity (and this goes to everyone- pro and anti- who resort to uncharitable means to voice out their convictions. This is not what the Church teaches). :)

        By the way, why do people always attack the Church? How about us who are against RH Bill for “secular reasons”? :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        The issues there are that first, he’s had MONTHS to introduce amendments, and suddenly deciding he wants to do so now smacks of mere filibustering, and second, he’s flat out stated that even if all of his amendments were accepted he STILL wouldn’t vote for the bill.  His amendments proposals, by any measure, filibustering and a waste of time besides.

        Off the top of my head, the Church has, at various times, claimed that the Bill legalizes abortion (explicitly stated to be untrue in the bill), and called the bill a population control programme (explicitly stated to be untrue by the bill’s creator).  Beyond that there are their misinterpretations of basic facts and their exaggerations as to the effects of the bill (does anybody REALLY believe that subsidizing condoms for the poor is going to lead to the total disintegration of society?).

        People attack the Church because it has acted terribly in the eyes of many.  Several of their statements on the issue have been extremely arrogant, and again there’s all the misinformation they’ve spread.

        IF you are against the RH Bill for secular reasons, more power to you.  If you’ve examined the issue honestly and felt that the country would be better off on your own, instead of outsourcing the decision to some old white men in Rome, then I can honestly say I’ve more respect for you than most of the anti-RH crowd.  For far too many people their stands on the RH Bill essentially boil down to ‘because the Church said so’, which is just sad.

      • feb142010

        Maybe many have been blindly following what the Church says (I can’t really judge people’s intentions but assuming that they do), but the Church never wanted this. She has always wanted people to think and She respects their freedom to choose their side (a case in point, you). But it presents to Her children the morals and doctrinal teachings that were handed down to Her. Besides, there are also many who read and study intelligently what the “old white men in Rome” say about this issue and find their arguments logical (although many arguments are theological, because of the nature of the institution). But even when tackling this issue humanly (ie without the enlightenment of faith, and merely by reason), the philosophy behind the bill is questionable.

        Re: Enrile, well, he has a right to his vote. And besides, they’re voting today, right? So I think he still sticks with the rules of the game.

        Re: claims of the Church, there’s a rationale behind their claims (although She never said the bill legalizes abortion, but may serve as an opening or introduction in the future as shown in the experience of other countries). With regard to the misinterpretations and exaggerations, those are just results of Catholics who tried to argue against the bill, but unfortunately, could not explain themselves well. It doesn’t mean that the Church was the source of these exaggerations. And yes, I believe that contraception “can” lead to the disintegration of the society (because of what I have seen- micro and macro). If you consider that an exaggeration, then that’s another discussion altogether.

        Lastly, I apologize for the insults that have been thrown against the pro-RH camp. The Church never promoted that. People can just be a bit sentimental about issues. Anyway, let’s see what happens in the next hours.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        That’s the problem: far too many members of the Church do not.  I have, for my beliefs, been called a ‘non-Catholic’ several times.  For disagreeing with the CBCP’s opinion.  That simple is not right.  At no point have I seen the CBCP put out a statement that they respect the opinions of dissenters, which in my eyes is one of the biggest problems with the Church.

        Enrile has a right to his vote, but when all he is doing is filibustering, I think it is alright to criticize him for it.

        Re: the Church’s claims, I think in general my main issue is that many of the CBCP arguments have been misinformation, on the verge of lying.  Those statements are at least scrutinized by PR officers.  What parish priests are preaching is far less monitored, and some of the things I’ve heard said there are FAR more extreme.  I’ve personally heard priests claiming that the RH Bill will destroy the family, and have heard stories where priests have flat out claimed that the bill will legalize abortion.  Priests are in positions of power in this country, and many of them have been flat out irresponsible with that power.

        As for the effects it’ll have on society, I’ll just say I disagree and leave it at that.

        And I appreciate the apology, but it wasn’t you throwing around the insults, and if we’re being honest the pro-RH lot have done as bad.

        Thank you though!

      • feb142010

        Well, the Church respects the opinion of others but will not change Her stand. I hope you understand that being a Catholic is not just a profession of a set of beliefs. It means living that faith, which involves being united to the head. This is why unity is an essential characteristic of the Church. Now, if there are questions regarding the morals and doctrine She is promulgating, they have provided venues for that. The many ecumenical councils attest to this since the Council of Jerusalem. And you see, the Church doesn’t have a say on matters of opinion, but on matters of truth and morals, She will risk being persecuted just to stand by them.

        Going back to the RH Bill, if it so happened that the Bill was a mere question of economics or politics, She would have just stayed out of its way (because then, the issue would have been something temporal), but since the Bill violates the morality and universal principles She has been founded on, the faithful have been pro-active in opposing it. You have to understand where the Bishops are coming from. Of course, they are against poverty (that’s why they have so many charitable institutions and initiatives to try addressing these problems- but of course, they won’t go around bragging these things since it’s not their spirit).

        Lastly, with the priests, I think people also have to learn to distinguish when the priest is voicing out his opinion or from his office as a priest of the Church. Although I also have to admit that the priests, themselves, should also know the distinction because a wrong word and action from them endangers the unity of the whole Church (although I don’t want to generalize because I have seen so many priests who act faithfully to their office).

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Unity is one thing.  Total obedience is another.  I honestly believe that my faith doesn’t require me to follow everything the CBCP says blindly, especially given that the Church has been shown to be wrong in the past.

        The CBCP stand is another thing that doesn’t really make much sense, if we’re being honest.  They support NFP, but oppose condoms, on the basis that the latter are ‘unnatural’.  That’s an extremely hypocritical decision given that that was probably communicated by the Church over radio / email / tv / phone, which certainly isn’t natural.  The two accomplish exactly the same thing, condoms are just more convenient and reliable.  Their position is ridiculous.

        Lastly, yeah, if an appointed politician says something dumb, it will be seen as the government position.  Same with parish priests.

      • feb142010

        P.S. If they can’t accept the truths recognized by the Church, they’re always free to go (I just sincerely hope they really studied Her teachings and tried being faithful first). As you can see, a lot couldn’t so they made up their own sects, but the Church will never change Her stand on matters of doctrine and morals. The Church is not here to be popular anyway. Yes, being a Catholic is really inconvenient and uncomfortable. No one ever said it’s not. Saints suffered for it, martyrs died for it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        People can leave, or people can try to change the system from within.

        I honestly hope Tagle does the latter.

      • sked482

        Your anti-rh congressmen can vote against it. But if either the anti-rh or pro-rh camp is outvoted, then the results should just be accepted. That’s how a democracy works. But to keep delaying the bill to PREVENT a vote, and therefore PREVENT the desires of the majority – whether it be pro-RH or anti-RH, which is something we’ll never know until a vote is done – is blatantly an attack on our democratic processes. I do agree with the poster above, what they are doing is filibustering and is deceitful.

      • feb142010

        Well, that’s why they’re voting today right? I guess they weren’t really preventing it, eh? Besides, this tug of war is part of democracy. I would find it suspicious if there weren’t any. And just like any of us, they are also entitled to their own convictions. To call them deceitful is an unfair judgment, given that they have been open to their stance ever since.

  • d2yan

    To those who are CYNICAL about “CHURCH INTERVENTION” on the passage of RH Bill, YOU observe what Malacanang is doing.  Malacanang is also INTERVENING and her intervention is UNPRECEDENTED – this is already the SECOND luncheon meeting held this year – an Executive pressure not accorded to other legislative bills….bills that are MORE URGENT than RH.
    “INTERVENTION” can be observed in both camps, whether PRO or ANTI.  Let us stop being BIAS.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Yes, because God forbid the GOVERNMENT be involved in GOVERNMENT matters.  I mean, there’s a bit in the constitution that dictates the separation of State and State, right?  Right?

      I swear, the anti-RH bill arguments get dumber and dumber…

      • feb142010

        i think the separation they’re referring to is between the executive and legislative branches :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        They’ve ALWAYS done that, and it’s ridiculous that the OP is complaining about it only now.

        And AGAIN, there’s no constitutionally mandated separation there either, is there?

      • feb142010

        well, separation of powers and checks and balances among the three branches of government are basic principles in a democratic government :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Powers are separated, and the system does provide for checks and balances, but there’s never been any indication they aren’t supposed to influence each other.  Many of these politicians run under the same parties and campaign together, for instance.

        Again, there isn’t anything in either the constitution or general law that says they can’t interact or influence each other, and they have done so since the start of the republic.

    • Ganymede

      Malacanang is intervening because some congressmen are doing foul practice of delaying the RH Bill.

      • feb142010

        foul? But I am sure they have been going through the process legally.

  • Albert Einstien


    we are ALREADY NO.1 as BPO in the world, & our OFWS are loved by their employers..BPo is contributing $12 billion & OFWs are contributing $21 billion a year..that is why we have a FC reserve of $82 billion ang its GROWING HANDSOMELY…without these them OFW & BPO..our ECONOMY should have collapsed already..our .POPULATION is the BACKBONE of the economy NOT the NOYNOYING & CREDIT  GRABBING govt……the  noynoying govt is ONLY good for PAID surveys,propaganda & window dressing…just compare SKYROCKETING prices of ALL goods & services, abominable crime rates,gruelling poverty & hungry people, 30% unbearable  unemployment 7/2010 & 12/2012…SEE the MONSTER of HARDSHIP,CRIMINALITY & INCOMPETENCE..there is an EXODUS or MASS MIGRATION since pnoy came to power…that is why their remittances are INCREASING because millions & millions LEAVE TOWN due hopelessness, unemployment & hardships brought about by NO DIRECTION of the noynoying govt…yet their remittances & contribution to the economy are being CREDIT GRABBED by pnoygovt & pnoy MEDIA SPINERS…what a shame…!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Bloody hell, you’re delusional.

      I’d refute your rambling, but frankly, having talked to you before, I think we both know it’d go way over your head.

    • Ganymede

      Tanga! Anong most educated , most skilled, most loved, most decicated and most hard working population na pinagsasabi mo?! Lumabas ka sa lungga mo at gumising sa realidad. Marami sa kababayan natin ang mahihirap walang pinag aralan, tambay sa kanto, basagulero, toma ng toma, tamad at walang trabaho. At gagaya ka pa kay Manong Johnny na mag export ng OFWs?! Pabor ka don dahil sa kumikita ang bayan natin ng dolyar? Andaming negatibong epekto niyan sa pamilya. Nawawasak ang pamilya dahil diyan. At lalong dumarami ang tamad dahil umaasa na lang dun sa nagtatrabaho sa abroad!

      • bgcorg

        Be a realist.  The poor we will always have with us.  The priority of this government is the eradication of poverty and corruption, not the free distribution of condoms and contraceptives to the very poor.  The money alloted for this provision of “cake” over “bread” that is what is really needed by our people is smokescreened by the rabid legislation of artificial contraception to fool us from what should have been or are the real purpose of temporal government.  The fight against poverty and corruption should logically carry with it spending more money to give jobs, education, livelihood opportunities, sustained investments, etc., etc. that would promote social justice.

        NO TO THE RH BILL!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594168964 Paul Verdadero

         The country will moved forward towards progress only when we  have the right  attitude and right argumentations regarding this HR Bill. for example  the distribution of free condoms will eradticate the increasing numbers of HIV cases in the PHILIPPINES that will somehow lessen the burden among filipinos. consider this as one of the many advantages of this BILL. will surely help to lift the life among its citizens…if not?then the  Church should give good jobs ,education, livelihood opportunities. the question is…..will they? …..think, analyze and reconsidered.

      • babyunborn


    • ThePattern

      tagalugin mo na lang Einstein, na-tanga ka tuloy.  At pag isipan mo nga muna sasabihin mo bago ka magkomento, bago pa naupo si PNoy, marami na kaming OFW na andito sa ibang bansa para maghanap buhay.  Noynoying mo mukha mo, bayaran!

      • Albert Einstien

        well the OFW numbers running away from the RP at time of PNOY is evidence
        enough of untold HARDSHIP HOPELESSness, extreme POVERTY & 30%
        UNEMPLOYMENT…the only govt action is popaganda & paid surveys….
        in 2010 —some 2.04 million workers who left the country that year, the
        National Statistical Coordination Board (NSCB)…
        .NGAYON: 2012: It is estimated that between 9.5 million to 12.5 million
        Filipinos work or reside abroad, about 11% of the total population of the
        Philippines.Filipinos every year leave to work abroad through overseas
        employment agencies and other programs, . A majority[dubious – discuss] of them
        are women applying as domestic helpers and personal service workers. Others
        emigrate and become permanent residents of other countries. Overseas Filipinos
        often work as doctors, physical therapists, nurses, accountants, IT
        professionals, engineers, architects,entertainers, technicians, teachers,
        military servicemen, seafarers, students, caregivers, domestic helpers, fast
        wood workers especially in the middle east and maids.The exodus includes a
        number of skilled workers taking on unskilled work overseas, resulting in what
        has been referred to as a brain drain, particularly in the health and education
        sectors.For example, doctors have retrained to become nurses.( WIKI) YELLOW
        ZOMBIES na LANG NATIRA sa pnas…me BRAIN DRAIN….!YAN 10MILLION na OFWs ang
        tapos nagpapadala sila ng DOLLARS AAGAWIN pa sa KANILA ang KREDITO ……wala
        NAMAN ginawa at kinalaman ang noynoying govt e..propaganda at credit grabbing

      • ThePattern

        mukhang malaki bayad sa iyo ah.  sayang lang bayad sa iyo, walang sense pinagsasabi mo, para mong sinabing si Lapu-Lapu pumatay kay Andres Bonifacio.

      • Albert Einstien

        to your kind yes!

      • ThePattern

        you are so kind. EINSTEIN hindi EINSTIEN

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Kahit pangalan nga ni Albert Einstein di niya kaya ispell eh.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Ahhhh, Albert, Albert Albert.

        Despite being corrected several times, you’ve never let facts get in the way of your little rants, have you?

        30% unemployment?  Stop making lies up.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      PH = DOMESTIC HELPER supplier to the World..

      • Albert Einstien

        is that WRONG or DEGRADING for you? they are MY HEROES.!…for unlettered like you i wish to illuminate you that …we ALSO SUPPLY all kinds of SERVICE in ALL aspect of life & its evolution……we have people ( engineers & special skills )  working at NASA,we have people( doctors & specialists ) working for human advancement & genetics, we have experts developing computer advanced programming, development of software & computer engineering,we have people in development of agri& aqua culture, we have people  teaching in prestigious universities of the world… like but not limited to…..Aeronautics and AstronauticsAnthropology
        Athletics, Physical Education and Recreation
        Biological Engineering
        Brain and Cognitive Sciences
        Chemical Engineering
        Civil and Environmental Engineering
        Comparative Media Studies
        Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences
        Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
        Engineering Systems Division
        Experimental Study Group
        Foreign Languages and Literatures
        Health Sciences and Technology
        HistoryLinguistics and PhilosophyLiteratureMaterials Science and EngineeringMathematicsMechanical EngineeringMedia Arts and SciencesMusic and Theater ArtsNuclear Science and EngineeringPhysicsPolitical ScienceScience, Technology, and SocietySloan School of ManagementSpecial ProgramsSupplemental ResourcesUrban Studies and PlanningWomen’s and Gender StudiesWriting and Humanistic Studies.etc..ect….

        to make it short…Filipinos are the MOST  evolved & most intelligent human specie walking on earth!

      • Sandouk

        Do you have to place these DH workers in the Philippines? Take a look arond your surrounding.

  • No Mind

    To Solons: Please decide on it and let there be peace on earth. Whatever your verdict on RH shall be the voice of God for us to follow. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynaldo-Quijada/100000740291153 Reynaldo Quijada

    Congressmen who are pushing RH are committing treason because it is truly a betrayal to the Filipinos interests not just morally but even to our economic interests.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      People like you should REALLY be sterilized so you don’t breed.

      I mean, I don’t support eugenics, but really, if you want to help the country the first thing you do should be to stop spreading stupidity.

    • ThePattern

      treason? LOL! u LOL!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      You need to see a Psychiatrist.

    • tamumd

      Treason… are you kidding me? If you wanna accuse those congressmen treason..it’s the likes of Rodriguez, Enrile and Sotto who are kowtowing to the whims of the catholic church should be charged of treason. Remember the catholic church is a foreign power, governed from a sovereign state called the Vatican. So yeah your church is meddling in the affairs of our independent, sovereign nation!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Can we change the book covers of new editions of ‘El Filibusterismo’ to Rodriguez’s face?

  • El_Gran_Capitan

    E2ng mga opponents ng RH Bill, takot na agad, may alibi na agad na railroading ang mangyayari, kung talagang mananalo kayo, pagbotohan na at ng matapos at maka move-on di yan daming daming arte at kung ano ano pa sinasabi nyo

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    may “pa-christmas envelope”

  • Ganymede

    Hoy Rodriguez! Ano na naman yan pinagsasabi mo na meron ka pang amendments kuno… Alam naman ng lahat na kahit ano pa mangyari e kontra ka tlaga sa RH Bill. Gusto mo lang idelay ang botohan at kunwari sasabihin na meron kang amendments. Votation na! Kahit ano naman mangyari No pa rin ang boto mo, it doesn’t make any difference. Takot ka lang talaga magbotohan dahil alam mo you don’t have the numbers.

  • kilabot

    lunch menu:
    choice of peni s, puss y, anus;
    you will know them by their words and choices;
    whoever says “will you please pass the anus”,  they’re pro-rhbill;
    whoever says “will you please pass the puss y”,  if female, pro-rhbill;
    whoever says “will you please pass the peni s”,  if male, pro-rhbill;
    whoever says “25% increase in hiv/aids cases is not alarming”, they’re pro-rhbill;
    whoever says “rhbill solves poverty”, they’re pro-rhbill;
    whoever says “rhbill is perversion”, they’re normal.

    No to rhbill;
    No to same-sex marriage;
    No to man-beast union.

    • ThePattern

      wow! how ignorant!

    • disqusted0fu

       good one! the only way that i would be pro- RH bill is if it will prevent the reproduction of the likes of Pnoy and his kkk.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594168964 Paul Verdadero

       Please monsieur, try to have a little bit of decency of what you writing, I respect everybody’s opinion and argumentation but do not show your tiny mini brain and senseless statement  that will only look you small as lizard.  sorry to say but obviously you’re limited with  words, I suggest you  to read more books like history novels, instead.reading  pornos,mags and dvds …analyze, think  again before….our country is experiencing population crisis. more and more people are sufferings, RH bill will change eventually the life of among filipinos, you need to think about those childrens future…be knowledgeable, feed your mind with good wisdom and practical ways. then without any efforts you can help and contribute goodness to your fellow citizens..we are no longer in the old century..

  • wehd1nga

    this close to election and the Catholic church calling to unvote Pro RH candidates, no politician in his right mind would dare bang heads with the Bishops and the Clergy, RH Bill is D E A D…

    • ThePattern

      because of what, the dreaded Catholic Vote?! oh please! there is no such thing as a Catholic vote!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Ang bagal ninyo….. ang kukupad puros politika ang bawat galaw…. ang isipin ng mga politikong ito ang kapakanan ng taong bayan…..regardless of religion affilliation…

    Bakit may mga concience po ba ang mga taong ito?…..WALA! Kung meron man sana matagal na tayong guminhawa sa buhay dahil sa tagal na nila sa puwesto at pamilya nilang nagpapasarap sa pera ng mamayan….Kung maganda ang ginagawa ng Roman-catholic church at mga politikong ito sa ating bansa idisanay kumukunti ang nagiging OFW…. bakit dumarami at nadadagdagan pa bawat taon? Indikasyon lang na ang mga politikong ito ay walang ginawa para sa ikabubuti ng kabuhayan ng mga mamayan. STRESS… LANG KAYO SA AMIN NA OFW….


  • virgoyap

    Rodriguez has a talibanic mentality. He knew quite well that his so called “period of amendment” is an endless scheme. His only aim is to kill the bill because of his hardline stand against it. His stand is no different from that of osama bin laden.

  • disqusted0fu

    here goes the president preempting again and hoping that he would influence these lawmakers to side on what he wants. why is FOI bill not on the menu? did it get scrapped and thrown away already? 

  • Albert Einstien

    FOREIGN INTEREST & local TRAITORS sa Pilipinasang me PAKANA nyang RH bill na yan….

    ·        “ RISE my Philippines RISE “

    EVERY Filipino Family will be MULTI-millionaires by 2050( both muslim & christian brothers )

    your grandsons & granddaughters will be masters of the world

    NO Filipino will suffer SLAVERY in foreign land..

    PROTECT these resources with utmost PATRIOTISM…

    Why are we always in poverty & war?

    Why they dont want the archipelago to be UNITED?

    Why are we targeted for Population & de-population control ?

    Why is the Philippines targeted for brain-drain & intellectuals are pirated abroad?

    Why are we NOT allowed to have a POWERFUL ARMed FORCES ?

    Why are we having lunatic leaders & family of traitors as our champions & leaders?

    ANSWER : Foreign Interest/s manipulated us because PHILIPPINES is the RICHEST country in the WORLD!

    “ Literally philippines is a PARADISE in a land of GOLD blessed by GOD ( Gold,gas Oil & Deuterium )..

    “ we the most evolved & intelligent human specie are walking literally in a land of gold “


    An archipelago comprising 7,107 islands, the Philippines is categorized broadly into three main geographical divisions: Luzon, Visayas, & Mindanao. In addition the BENHAM Rise.. 250 km wide new territory. The Philippines’ rainforests and its extensive coastlines make it home to a diverse range of birds, plants, animals, and sea creatures. It is one of the ten most biologically megadiverse countires and is at or near the top in terms of biodiversity per unit area. Our beautiful islands are the envy of the world we are surrounded by soft white & pearly black beaches. Most of the mountainous islands are covered in tropical rainforest and volcanic in origin. The Apo Reef is the country’s largest contiguous coral reef system and the second-largest in the world. The Philippines has a tropical maritime climate and is usually hot and humid. There are three seasons: the hot dry season or summer the rainy season ; and the cool dry season . The perfect climate system in the Philippines makes its air and atmosphere free from man made pollution after the system of storms cleansed the territory during rainy season & disinfecting the land by exposure to the sun’s ultra-violet rays in hot dry season. This is the best country in world to live in if the insurgency problem caused by poverty is solved by the tapping of the nation’s resource thereby freeing the people from poverty..
    Located within the Pacific Rim of Fire, the Philippine archipelago is hypothesized as having been formed 43 million years ago. Its 7,109 islands rest on top of underwater mountains formed by the outpourings of molten rocks from the earth’s interior, thus creating an ideal setting for mineral deposition. (After Wolfe, J.A., “Origin of the Philippines by Accumulation of Allochthons” in The Philippine Geologist July- September 1983 Issue, p.17) In the archipelago, resurgent volcanoes particularly provided access for rising gold-bearing solutions which cool to the geotherm of 300 degrees Celsius at about 400 m depth. At this point, the gold began to precipitate and epithermal gold deposits were formed over geologic time of 1.5 million years from the present time. (After Wolfe, J. A., in International Mineral Development Sourcebook, 1993)

    HUMAN resource…

    we are the ONLY Country in the world ..who speaks 175 languages & dialects with literacy rate of 93.4% . Most speak fluent & write foreign languge like english , spanish,nihongo,arabic, mandarin,hindi, & malay than country of origin..some elderly can still speak latin…Average Filipino can at least speak 3 foreign language & 2 dialects..while the rest of the world can speak only english & their native tounge…the people are educated, fun loving, resilient, hospitable & industrious… in fact , currently the economy is heavily reliant on remittances which surpass foreign direct investment as a source of foreign currency. Therefore the more population more benefit for the economy. The Philippines need a HUGE population & Army if it intends to tap the resources otherwise foreign invasion can easily land on its shores & control can be had without a sweat.…as of now we are ALREADY NO.1 as BPO in the world, & our OFWS are loved by their employers..BPo is contributing $12 billion & OFWs are contributing $21 billion a year..that is why we have a FC reserve of $82 billion ang its GROWING HANDSOMELY…without them (OFW & BPO)….our ECONOMY should have collapsed already..our .POPULATION is the BACKBONE of the economy NOT the NOYNOYING & CREDIT GRABBING govt…When we begin to tap our resources we will recall ALL our OFWs & those who migrated to HELP build the country as the wealthest & strongest nation on earth…we need huge population to attain this dream & endeavor.

    MINERAL resource…..

    Initial Lode and placer GOLD DEPOSITS occur in most of the 73 out of 83 provinces in the Philippines.The ten provinces were not properly tested yet due to internal conflicts & war. The 1996 $2.1TRILLION value resource estimate based on conservative 10% ( $21 trillion total estimate ) maybe deficient and could double to $42 trillion or more of the actual resource.. . … such amount could catapult this country to first world status .. we could even buy americas $16 Trillion debt..Also, we have .$26.3-Trillion Oil Reserves ..Country’s Untapped Deposits Mostly In Spratlys Philippines News Agency April 25, 2012, MANILA, Philippines- The Philippines is “sitting on a mountain of gold,” with untapped hydrocarbon deposits estimated at $26.3 trillion, mostly found in the disputed Spratly chain of islands, more than enough to free the country from the shackles of poverty.Also if we are able to claim SABAH… It has the potential to produce 1 million barrels of oil a day,” “The estimated reserves from the present Sabah oilfields is 1.4 billion barrels of oil and 7.7 trillion scf of gas.” …Malaysia govt does not even give our sabahan brothers share of their on wealth ONLY PETRONAS ( govt corp ) which give sabah a PITIFUL royalty of 5%…

    That amount is even without considering the UNQUANTIFIABLE value today (maybe thousands of $ trillion ) of the resources that can be found in our new territory called the BENHAM rise a 250km wide domain which is perceived to contain very huge oil & gas deposits & the envy of world for we are the proud owner of the vast DEUTERIUM deposits with a 868 mile long find in Philippine trench. With these resources properly tapped we are bigger than america & arabia combined.. : .yet many potential mineral & natural reserves are still HIDDEN n our archpelago…

    BENHAM RISE new Philippine territory 250 km wide –GMA LEGACY

    Despite its proximity to the archipelago, the plateau was previously not included in the territory of the Philippine Islands. On 8 April 2009 ( GMA govt. filed the claim to UN now we owned it.. eventually our history & after the political vendettas ….legislature might rename the benham rise to GMA rise to give honor to its finder/claimant .. ), the Republic of the Philippines lodged a partial territorial waters claim with the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in relation to the continental shelf in the region of Benham Rise. The UN has officially approved the claim in April 2012. The Philippines may soon be able to provide its own energy through Benham Rise, an underwater ridge to the east of Luzon which is believed to have mineral and gas deposits. The Philippines claim over Benham Rise is “very relevant” because scientific surveys indicate minerals and natural gas in the area. Solidified methane was found during mapping activities and the “probability is very high” there are oil deposits. There may be more natural gas than oil, and is considered better because it is cleaner. Benham Rise, which is bigger than Luzon, Samar, and Leyte combined, is being claimed solely by the Philippines

    GREATEST of them ALL- “ DEUTERIUM the Gift of Nature “- MARCOS LEGACY

    In ADDITION to the LEGACY of marcos like malampaya
    & other gas & oil fields…DEUTEIUM marcos legacy is the BEST …“ the Philippines trench has the LARGEST DEPOSIT of deuterium with 868 mile long 52 mile wide “
    If we allow production even for just a portion of this natural deposit… the Philippines will already become a first world country.. what more if we produce a quarter of it… Deuterium has several commercial and scientific uses today. It has become much more than the heavy water many countries sought after during World War II.Deuterium, a form of concentrated hydrogen, is used in the production of natural gas now utilized in Canada, America, Germany and Sweden, to provide fuel for cars, trucks , jet planes, & deuterium fuel for fusion reactors.”Deuterium can replace gasoline, (liquefied petroleum gas), (liquefied natural gas), Avgas, etc. in powering all types of internal combustion engines including maybe SPACE ships of the future & can be use in space explorations…. It does not emit pollutants or any harmful carbon monoxide and does not cause any environmental problems because it is in the water family. We can build electric nuclear plants in the middle of the URBAN cities of the world ! we will power & feed the world at the same time.Just imagine the philippines at the forefront of human evolution, science , technology & space exploration

    The GOOD news is we have UNLIMITED deposit of it is self replenishing..!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Listen to the Majority and not the catholic IMAMS.

    PH is not a Theocracy like IRAN.

    • feb142010

      last time I checked, the Catholics are still citizens of this country :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    ‘The ruling elite has a vested interest in keeping the Filipino people
    poor, ignorant and corrupt — especially in a democratic form of

    The same can (and has, repeatedly) been said about the Church.

    So why are you accusing the government / academe / business leaders of the country of ulterior motives and not the Church?

    As for the rest of that, this isn’t population control: it’s giving people a CHOICE.  Which, to be fair, the RCC HAS historically been against.

    • Facile1

      Jose wrote, in response to Facile1:
      “So why are you accusing the government / academe / business leaders of the country of ulterior motives and not the Church?”

      Because I have MORE TO FEAR from the government than from the Roman Catholic Church. The government has guns, prisons, and the power to tax. BUT most of all, the Philippine government has a long record of human rights violations.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        If we’re comparing human rights violations, the Church wins hands down.  Ever heard of the Inquisition?  The Crusades?

        And thanks for admitting you’re essentially a hypocrite.

    • Facile1

      Jose wrote, in response to Facile1:
      “As for the rest of that, this isn’t population control: it’s giving people a CHOICE.”

      Whose choice are you talking about? Males’?

      Exposing HEALTHY Filipina women (albeit the “poorest of the poor”) to the UNNECESSARY risks (however small) of oral contraceptives when free, safer and healthier alternatives exist shows CONTEMPT.

      The RH Bill has only contempt for the Filipino woman.
      The RH Bill has only contempt for her social status.
      The RH Bill has only contempt for her religious convictions.
      The RH Bill has only contempt for her constitutional rights.

      BUT most of all, the RH Bill has only contempt for her healthy female body.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Because for you lot, every reputable economist in the country supporting the bill is somehow not credible while some crackpot / biased report that oral contraceptives cause whatever is 100% reliable.

        Women will have the choice whether or not to use the contraceptives AFTER being educated on the risks (by actual doctors), just as smokers can choose to smoke or not.  Then, of course, there’s condoms, which I don’t think even you are going to claim are cancerous.

        The RH Bill provides CHOICES for people who aren’t as close-minded or stuck in the medieval ages as you.  The only contempt it has is for the idea that people should not be helped to choose how many children they want and can support.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    There is nothing to scrutinize…the president has made up his mind. He will order that the lawmakers from both houses in Congress vote in favor of the RH bill.

    Everything in this country will be screwed up by fixed deals. This present batch of lawmakers is the most obvious and most notorious for kowtowing to the whims and caprices of Noynoy Aquino.

    Gone are the days of the independent-minded legislators who hold the values of integrity, dignity, and honesty in the performance of their office. No more can be expected from this batch. Congress needs major overhaul of so-called “representatives of the people”.

    Unless voters select the few candidates deserving to serve in Congress, we are doomed to have the same bandwagon-minded people who care more for their popularity and political future than the interests of the people they ought to serve.

    The RH bill is turning out to be the trophy that this present administration wants to grab. It believes that contraception is a way of life…no morons, contraception stops life. The RH bill is being advanced as a solution to hunger and poverty…no morons, providing access to economic opportunities – jobs, livelihood, peaceful neighborhood, modest and affordable housing program, price controls on commodities, lower energy costs, etc. will reduce hunger and poverty. Where is the genuine democratic system now where there are three co-equal branches of government? Now, it is a one-branch system..all roads lead to Malacanang.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Because to ‘hold the values of integrity, dignity, and honesty in the performance of their office’ and to support the RH Bill are two mutually exclusive things?  That is ridiculous.

      I’ll make a stupid blanket statement of my own then: Given all the bleating the CBCP has been doing about the Catholic vote, anyone who votes against the RH Bill is a coward and is someone prostituting his honor and his duty in an attempt to gain the ‘Catholic vote’ and get another term.

      But of course that isn’t right either, because people can support and/or oppose the RH Bill for reasons other than base greed, or because their superiors say so.

      And given that the Philippine academe generally supports the RH Bill, I’d venture to say that you’re the moron here.  The worst thing about the RH Bill is that moron like you are going to benefit from it’s improving the country, when you’ve done your best to perpetuate the current poverty.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        A typical lame excuse for one who reads comments but fails to grasp.
        Gone are the days of people in Congress who are independent-minded. Now moron, do you comprehend?

        The Catholic Church has been in the forefront to defend the teachings of God and, once again, the Church does not force you and the legions of anti-Catholics to support our stand. Only legislators will vote on the RH bill. 

        If a senator or congressman feels afraid to lose votes next year, that is how cowardly one gets to be unsure if he supports the RH bill or he is more interested about his political future.

        You think that a few university professors from Ateneo and UP represent the Philippine academe..ha, what a laugh!
        I won’t benefit at all if the RH bill becomes a law. And, you still buy this myth about poverty to be solved by giving condoms and pills to the poor families…sheesh.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        And THERE we have the REAL issue here: YOU won’t benefit.  This isn’t so much about caring about the poor for you, is it?  It’s more about your selfishness.  You are disgusting and pathetic.

        ‘Gone are the days of people in Congress who are independent-minded. Now moron, do you comprehend?’

        Well, a random idiot on the internet says so without offering any actual arguments or proof, how can I NOT be convinced?

        The Catholic has every right to it’s own opinions, but the continued lying they (and you) have done about the RH Bill is despicable, and the fact that we have free speech doesn’t make how they’ve been acting acceptable or moral in any way.

        Oh, and the professors from the two best universities in the country certainly do represent the academe.  How dumb are you?

  • Palku Kha

    sigurado yan pangakohan na naman ang mga tongresman ng pork barrel para sundin lang ang gusto ni Peenoy.pere pera lang yan!!! 

  • artz555

    Some people here are still trumpeting to the world that over- population is good for PH. These people should know better and learn from the Filipino’s themselves who majority of whom, in most survey’s ( i.e.  70 % or more, ) favor the passage of an RH bill in Congress. No amount of brainwashing could change these people’s opinion, because most Filipinos have witnessed firsthand, the evils of over-population right in their neighborhoods.

    As to the the pros and cons of labor export and the OFW phenomenon , everybody clearly agrees with it’s great contribution to the PH economy, not only for it’s GDP growth and  increasing dollar reserves, but also in helping PH minimize the effects of  external and internal shocks, like recessions and/or  natural calamities.

    But PH planners should not be dependent on OFWs further into the future, because these demand for export labor from other  countries ( which may not happen in this decade or so) may eventually decline, when PH and other labor exporting countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other counties in Asia and Africa may fully saturate the world with their labor exports..

    Another disadvantage of labor export is that, PH maybe loosing some of it’s best and brightest to other countries, who would gladly use these talents not only for the betterment  of their economies but also to profit from the innovations or some discoveries these talents may contribute to their sponsor countries. Hence, PH  should stem the tide of these so called brain- drain by gradual lifting the living standards of all Filipinos ASAP, so that their best and brightest may be discouraged from leaving the country.

    Of course the other more important disadvantage of these export labor in PH, is that most of these OFWs, ( who usually have short duration contracts for a few years or more ), will eventually comeback to PH and become part of the regular population, and again compete for the countries  food, jobs, education, housing  etc. etc. This eventual  higher population will of course result in  a smaller and smaller share of the GDP pie for every Filipino, and consequently lower and lower standards of living for all Filipinos, which PH should be trying to avoid in the first place.

    Hence,still the need for the passage of an appropriate RH bill in Congress.

  • Philcruz

    Yes, why so scared of voting? What’s so hard about voting? Dumbos do it all the time in the House and the Senate with hardly a debate. This bill has been debated to kingdom come. So vote na. Now na.

  • Albert Einstien

    reply to mang JOSE….alam naman ng lahat na yellow zombie po kayo..at lagi GUSTO mag-papansin palagi…lol

    ” Kahit pangalan nga ni Albert Einstein di  kaya ispell eh ”

    the rules state that…….we can not use names of other person living or dead…besides there is already an account albert einstein…the ONLY remedy allowed by the rules..is   ” IDEM SONANS”…..were mis spelling or sounding the same is ALLOWED…

    i hope i contributed significantly to your education….but i know it is an exercise in futility because yellow  ZOMBIES got no brains…lol…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RJQ2HKUJDYKO4IME2F3GPWL5RY Kristel Capio

    To our respectable law makers, please vote on RH Bill with our RIGHT,
    TRUE and MORAL CONSCIENCE grounded on man’s relationship with GOD.

    Ma. Kristel Capio, 2POL1
    University of Santo Tomas

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


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