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Lawmakers to work on substitute RH bill

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Majority Leader Neptali “Boyet” Gonzales Jr. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

After months of delay and a lack of quorum, the House of Representatives on Monday managed to come up with a substitute bill meant to address the controversial provisions of the reproductive health (RH) bill.

The changes include giving priority to the poor in the provision of birth control methods, and banning contraceptives that prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum, as this is considered abortion by some sectors.

In an interview, Majority Floor Leader Neptali Gonzales said the reproductive health bill still had other periods to hurdle, as opponents of the measure could still propose more individual amendments.

Albay Rep. and RH bill main proponent Edcel Lagman, meanwhile, assured lawmakers there was no need to worry about the so-called Catholic vote on the RH bill, citing several Social Weather Stations (SWS) and Pulse Asia surveys that showed that majority of Catholics were actually in favor of the controversial measure.

“RH advocates should not fear a negative Catholic vote because the alleged backlash has no empirical basis,” Lagman said in a statement, amid reports that Church leaders had called on voters to reject candidates who support the bill.

Lagman, however, said that “the Catholic vote is for the enactment of the RH bill,” and cited a Pulse Asia October 2008 survey and SWS surveys on family planning in 2008, 2009 and 2010 to back his claim.

Political myth

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago also described the alleged command vote of the Catholic Church as nothing but a “political myth” and rebuked Church leaders for their “borderline violation of the constitutional principle of separation of Church and state.”

“In the past, the Catholic church campaigned against Sen. Juan Flavier because as health secretary, he freely distributed condoms.  But Flavier won the elections.  Thus, the so-called Catholic vote is a political myth,” Santiago said in a statement.

Santiago also pointed out that only the Catholic Church opposed the RH bill among major churches in the Philippines, including the Iglesia ni Cristo, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, National Council of Churches in the Philippines, Interfaith Partnership for the Promotion of Responsible Parenthood, and the Assembly of Darul-Iftah of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao.

But Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez, a vocal opponent of the RH bill, disputed Lagman’s claims, and said that the difficulty of ensuring attendance among pro-RH lawmakers was one sign of waning support for the measure that he described as “unconstitutional, coercive, morally incorrect, assaults the Catholic religion, medically unsafe and was led by an international lobby.”

Among the more controversial provisions of the RH bill are its provisions to provide information on, and access to, all methods of contraception among the country’s poorest sectors, and sex education among adolescents through the country’s public school system.

According to Lagman, a 2008 SWS survey showed that 71 percent of Catholics favored the reproductive health bill. Among weekly church-going Catholics, the support was higher, at 73 percent, he added.


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Tags: Congress , Government , Legislation , Population control , RH bill , Social Issues


  • batangsulpok

    Walang pag-asang umunlad ang Pilipinas habang nakikialam ang simbahang katoliko at tuloy-tuloy ang paglobo ng populasyon na gusto nila para maraming abuloy sa simbahan kaya kahit sinong umupong Presidente, hindi papasa ang RH Bill dahil halos mga senators at congressman ay katoliko na sunod-sunoran sa mga Pari.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Ibig mong sabihin ay walang sariling pag iisip ang mga lawmakers natin ? O baka naman wala kang masabing mabuting rason para sa RH bill. Isang bagay ang tiyak,may isip at konsensiya din ang law makers kahit papano. ang RH bill ay tulad ng Genocide laban sa mahihirap nating kababayan. Komo ba mahirap sila ay uutuin ng uminom ng Cancer causing RH pills ? at ok lang na magka anak sila ng accidental freak child. Aba’y maawa naman sila sa mahihirap na ina. Tao din yan na gustong mabuhay. Mayayaman lang ba ang may karapatang mabuhay. Ang RH bill ay isang kalupitatan sa kababayan nating mahihirap.

      • burubudongstongstoings

        ikaw ang di nag iisip. akalain mo ang RH Bill ay genocide. Itanong mo yan sa italy at ibang mayayamang bansa bakit sila may mga RH law. Di ka rin nag iisip ano.

      • boypalaban

        ikaw malupit ang pag-iisip mo…tanong mo kay lagman(defender ng magnanakaw na idol mong presidente), cayetano(epal, dynasty angas), santiago( brenda, defender ng isa mo pang idol na si renato corrovo magnanakaw) na mga ipokrito kung para nga sa mahihirap yang RH Bill na yan…

        galing ng mga idol mo…puro mga makamahirap…sobrang concern…

  • txtman

    >>>>>>> EMPLOYERS READ THESE<<<<<<<<<<<<

    DID YOU KNOW

    SEC. 17 OF THE RH BILL STATES

    THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE  IN THE FREE DELIVERY OF ALL SERVICES
         AND ALL SUPPLIES TO YOUR ALL EMPLOYEES ( WITH OR WITHOUT CBA)

    MEANING KAYO ANG BIBILI NG

    PILLS

    CONDOMS

    IUD

    CHECK-UP NILA

    CONDOMS KUNG NANGANGATI SILA

    ABORTION EXPENSES

    TULO aka STD EXPENSES

    KAYO ANG GAGASTOS DYAN

    YAN ANG RH BILL

    ALAM NINYO BA YAN?

    OF COARSE NOT

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

     >>>>>>>>> ANO KAYA ITO? <<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>> ABORTION IS LEGAL IN WESTERN COUNTRIES.
    >>>>> ANO YAN? SLOWLY THEY ARE MAKING ABORTION LEGAL IN THE PH?

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    >>>>>> MAPAPAKAMOT KA TALAGA <<<<<<<<>>>>>>> NASAAN ANG HEALTH FOR THE BABIES & PREGNANT WOMEN DYAN?

    >>>>>>> ANONG ORGANIZATION YAN?

    >>>>>>>> BAKIT KASAMA SILA SA BATAS?

    >>>>>>> SINO-SINO ANG MGA KASAMA SA MGA ORGANIZATIONS NA YAN?
    .
    .
    .
    SINO PA NGA BA????????
    .
    .
    EH, MGA LESBIANA aka TIBO

    MGA BADINGAY aka PWET-CHUPA = AIDS

    MGA ABORTIONISTA aka PRO-CHOICE = ” KATAWAN KO ITO KAYA WALA KANG
    PAKIALAM PAPATAYIN KITANG BATA KA SA TIYAN KO.”

    MGA KILITI aka GREATES SEX OF THEIR LIFE

    NOW, YOU KNOW

    BAKIT NGAWA NG NGAWA MGA KUNWARING MGA GROUPS KONO

    KASI PO

    SILA ANG MAKIKINABANG DYAN

    NOT THE PREGNANT WOMEN & CHILD/BABIES/UNBORN

    AMOY BULOK NA ISDA

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    >>>> SA MGA DOCTORS DYAN, READ THESE <<<<<<<<<

    SECTION 3

    G……….. SHOULD AFFORDED FREE & FULL ACCESS PROVIDED…..
            ….. QUALIFIED PRIVATE PRACTITIONERS.

    MGA PRIVATE DOCTORS DYAN

    FREE DAW

    WALANG AANGAL SA INYO

    YAN ANG BATAS

    FREE DAW

    PITIFUL

    • NYPinoy

       fear mongering.  tinatakot mo ang mga doctor na di sila makasingil ng bayad kasi libre and sinabi ng batas.  nakakaawa ka.

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>>>>> SINO-SINO SILA BA TALAGA? <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> SINO-SINO MGA NGO NA MGA YAN?

    >>>>>>>>>>> SINO-SINO MGA PEOPLE’S ORGANIZATION NA MGA YAN?

    KASAMA BA DYAN MGA RELIGIOUS GROUPS?

    AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    IM SURE, HINDI

    MGA PROGRESSIVE WOMEN’S GROUPS LANG YAN COMPOSED OF FEW
         HUNDRED PEOPLE

    NA AKALA NILA SILA NA ANG MUKHA NG MGA KABABAIHAN SA BANSA

    IM SURE KASAMA DYAN

    MGA LESBIANA aka TIBO

    MGA GAYLANDIA aka BADINGAY-SUPA = AIDS

    MGA ABORTIONISTA aka PRO-CHOICE

    MGA IBA’T-IBANG MGA KASIPING aka GREATEST SEX OF THEIR LIFE

    OH, NASAAN ANG MGA RIGHTS NG MGA UNBORN & BABIES DYAN?

    THEN THEY EXPECT US TO PAY FOR THEIR SEXUAL ACTIVITIES?
    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>> ANO TITLE ULIT NG RH BILL? <<<<<<<>>>>>>>> NASAAN ANG MATERNAL & CHILD HEALTH DYAN?

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>>>>>>> DOCTOR BA TALAGA SILA? <<<<<<<<>>>>>> AKALA KO BA FOR MATERNAL & CHILD HEALTH?

    >>>>>> AKALA KO BA GUSTONG MABAWASAN ANG MATERNAL & CHILD DEATHS?

    >>>>>> BAKIT PILLS, CONDOMS IUDS?
    .
    .

    QUESTIONS SA MGA BUNTIS

    DO YOU NEED PILLS WHILE YOU ARE PREGNANT?

    HINDI BA DAPAT MGA IRON, FOLIC ACID BINIBIGAY NA LIBRE?

    ISAMA NA NATIN MGA GAMOT SA HYPERTENSIONS?

    MGA ANTIBIOTICS, WALA?

    CONDOMS & PILLS?
    .
    .
    .

    ANO ULIT MGA PINAGPUPUTAK NG MGA PRO-RH?

    MATERNAL DEATHS

    OH NASAAN DYAN SA  RH BILL ANG TUTULONG SA MGA BUNTIS????

    PURO

    PILLS & CONDOMS

    AND
    .
    .

    PURO

    HOW TO ACHIEVE THE GREATEST SEX OF THEIR LIFE

    READ IT, NASA RH BILL YAN
    .
    .

    ONE OF THE GOALS OF RH BILL IS TO HAVE THE GREATEST SEX OF THEIR LIFE
    .

    OH, NASAAN ANG MATERNAL & CHILD HEALTH DYAN?

    PITIFUL

  • quirinomayer

    Finally, the RH Bill is moving despite the presence of the Padre Damaso fanatics in Congress and the threats of bishops to campaign against pro-RH Bill legislators. Let’s just see if these Padre Damasos could muster enough votes against the pro-RH solons. Based on their “show of force” before the SONA where they were only able to mobilize around 50,000 across the nation, they are more bark than bite.

    GO GO GO PRO-RH BILL CONGRESSMEN! WRECK THE OPPOSITION OF THE PADRE DAMASO LACKEYS IN CONGRESS!

    • txtman

      YOU ARE NOT READING

      SUBSTITUTE BILL DAW

      THE ORIGINAL BILL IS NOT THERE ANYMORE
      .
      .

      .
      .
      THE RH BILL IS NOT REALLY FOR MATERNAL & CHILD HEALTH

      THIS IS BASICALLY, THE CREEPING INTRODUCTION OF ABORTION
           IN THE PHILIPPINES

      ANO SABI ULIT NG BATAS NA YAN?

      MGA ORGANIZATIONS DAW NG MGA KABABAIHAN ANG MAGDIDIKTA DYAN
      .
      .

      TANONG

      SINO-SINO BA MGA YAN?

      HINDI BA MGA FOREIGNERS?

      ANDYAN YUNG TAGA-PAPUA NA POLITIKO NA NAGRESIGN KASI
           SINAMPAHAN NG MGA KASO ( AND YET HERE ARE THE PINOYS
           BILIB NA BILIB NA SA KANYA? EXPERT NA DAW? HAAAAAA!
           PORKE PUTI LANG SYA?)

      ANDYAN YUNG ITIM NA TAGA- NIGERIA (MISMONG BANSA NGA NIYA
           HINDI NYA MASABIHAN? AND HERE SHE IS????? EXCUSE ME
           MGA PINAPADALA SA UN AY HINDI IBIG SABAHIN MATALINO NA SIYA)
      .
      .
      .
      .
      NASAAN ANG CHILD HEALTH DYAN?

      IMAGINE?

      CONDOMS & PILLS – ESSENTIAL MEDICINES?

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      ANO YAN?

      PARANG PARACETAMOL/BIOGESIC?

      WOW!

      PWEDE NA IPAMIGAY SA MGA BATA YAN

      PAGMASAKIT ANG MGA PUSON

      GIVE THEM CONDOMS & PILLS

      MAKE SURE FLAVORED PARA MABENTA

      PITIFUL

      • ARIKUTIK

        Hey txtman your spacing is too much. Anything overdone is not good for the eyes.

      • txtman

        SIR, HINDI PARA SA MATA YAN

        PARA SA BRAIN YAN

      • marionics

        uy walang  PITIFUL ngayon a. nasira ata ang format mo hahaha

      • JuanTamadachi

        lol

    • txtman

      ILAN NAMAN ANG UMATTEND SA PRO-RH?

      ACCORDING TO TRALALA SURVEY OF 1500 GHOST PEOPLE?

      WALA, HINDI BA?

      .
      .
      .
      MIND YOU

      MASKI ANTI-RH ANG ISANG CONGRESSMAN

      MASKI ABSENT SILA SA RH BILL SESSION

      IBOBOTO PA RIN SILA NG MGA TAO

      AT MANANALO PA RIN SILA

      THAT IS THE REALITY

      YAN ANG TRUE, MANANALO PA RIN MGA ANTI-RH CONGRESSMEN
      .

      MASMALAKI ANG SAKIT NG ULO NG MGA PRO-RH CONGRESSMEN

      BAKIT KA PA NAMAN KUKUHA NG BATONG IPUPOK-POK MO SA ULO MO

      KUNG PWEDE NAMAN HINDI?

      SO, BEING AN ANTI-RH CONGRESSMEN IS A LOT BETTER
      .
      .
      .
      THAT 50, 000 KASI PO MAY BAGYO NOON.

      SIGE NGA, MGA PRO-RH MAG-RALLY NGA KAYO

      SWERTE NA KAYO KUNG MAYROON KAYONG 100 PEOPLE

      PITIFUL

      • boypalaban

        sa mga proRH rally..babaha ng mga bading na magfa-fashion show at mamimigay ng condom sa mga dumadaan…

    • boypalaban

      WRECK THE FAKE ANTI-CORRUPTION CRUSADERS!
      WRECK THE PSEUDO NATIONALISTS!
      WRECK THE SELF-PROCLAIMED FREETHINKERS!
      WRECK THE FAKE TRIATHLETES!
      WRECK THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!
      WRECK THE DOGS AND ROBOTS OF CORRUPT POLITICIANS!

    • speaksoftlylove

      Dream on. Pinagbigyan lang yang si Speaker Belmonte ng mga congressmen ng isang quorum para di magagaya sa Senate na sinabi ng isang palace blabber, in the name of Mamba, that “the problem in the Senate as regards RH bill is leadership.” But I don’t think that the House can muster a quorum continually until the passage of the bill. We’ll see.

  • bgcorg

    The substitute rh bill is better rejected than passed.  It is couched in very ambiguous phraseology that may be used by pro-rh activists later to demand “what the law states.” Of course, the provisions it contains now could be debated line by line.  But, Congress is not just for passing a law; that “ordination of reason promulated by one in authority for the good of the community” (St. Thomas Aquinas) should not be in favor only of ultra feminists or vested international organizations. A law, because emanating from right reason, should be in accordance with exixting law, ethics/morals, values, customs, traditions and traditions.  A good law cannot represent a cliff-rupture from the past; “ang hindi marunong lumingon sa pinangagalingan ay hindi makakarating sa paruroonan.”  Blessed Pope John Paul II, speaking about the integrity of the Catholic faith in relation to the Church teaching on openness to life, urges respect for it before, during, and after the creative cooperation of parents with the Author of life who alone has the power to endow life or to take it away.  By usurping this divine preprogative, man eats of the forbidden fruit of “the tree of good and evil” and makes himself “like god.”

    The substitute bill is again bandered by its proponents as a law that promotes maternal and child care.  If so, why the need for a new law?  If the existing multiplicity of laws on the same subject need to be upgraded and amended, then there is no need for a law that would make it a matter of state policy to embrace artificial contraceptives and artificial birth control and impose a contraceptive culture and mentality “because the others are doing so” and that we would be the only country that has no contraceptive laws (?!!).  It is better to really state a law in an unequivocal manner that to couch it in an ambiguous way just to be able to pass it, while free riders unsuspectingly is leading the country down to the pits.

    The strong position taken by Miriam Santiago, averring among others, that majority of Catholics per the surveys are in favor of the rh bill deserve to be more closely examined. A law is not judged by its popularity, granting, not conceding in this case that this is truly the facts outside of the survey population,  It is judged whether it does not contradict other laws, more superior than merely HUMAN laws.  Where this contradiction is evident, that law is intrinsically evil and would lack its coercive sanction.  The rh bill lacks this intrinsic quality of consistency with the Natural Law and eternal law.  Right reason, reflecting on human nature itself would tell her that artificial contraception, right from its intention already works against conception which is more universally understood to start with fertilization, not with the implantation of the zygote in the endometrium of the uterus.  It is a useless conceptual distinction to confuse the start of pregnancy with “conception”:  In fertilization, life already begins!  Talking about Catholics, it is the task of lay Catholics to find a common ground for science, human laws and moral law; because the truth cannot contradict itself.  As true disciples of the Church, one cannot choose only those things to believe and practice according to one’s liking.  We believe in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    It would be better for the current reproductive health bill to be scrapped and its more relevant and less controversial provisions amend existing laws.  We should not let our guards down. No to the rh bill!  

  • burubudongstongstoings

    naku ang narrow minded ng mga anti RH dito. If i know lahat ng anti RH dito sa PDI ay mga pari…

    • boypalaban

       nag-akusa ka na naman bagger ni lagman…

    • boypalaban

      ok lang na narrow-minded…wag lang kasing luwag ng turnilyo ng utak mo kung meron ka man…

      mga pari ba mga anti-RH dito…ikaw ha, may issue ka sa mga pari…isa ka ba sa biktima ng pedopilya?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    “…and sex education among adolescents through the country’s public school system.”

    Why do the RC priests and bishops vehemently opposed to this provision? Perhaps they want the adolescents to remain ignorant so that they can perpetuate their advances to their innocent victims?

    PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!

    • boypalaban

      biktima ka ba ng pedopilya?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Tanungin mo sarili mo.. hehehe

      • boypalaban

        bakit di mo masagot?
        tsaka di ako katoliko FYI…kaya di ako pwedeng gawan ng karahasan ng mga kalaban mo…
        maiba ko ang tanong: bakit andaming bading na nagfa-fashion show at namimigay ng condom sa mga proRH gatherings?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Hehehe.. ok yun pamimigay nila ng condom at nang makatulong sa kontra-hiv campaign ng DOH. At saka mismo ang Pope ay payag na gamitin ang condom upang mapigilan ang hiv.. di mo yata alam yun ano?

      • boypalaban

        oooops…out of context ka sa pag cite sa Pope…
        kinumpara lang niya ang gumagamit o nagpapagamit (sex) na alam nang makakahawa na mas mabuti pang gumamit ng condom…wala siyang sinabi na ok yang condom…ang banat niya ay lesser evil…at hindi pekeng solusyon sa evil…

  • brunogiordano

      “unconstitutional, coercive, morally incorrect, assaults the Catholic
    religion, medically unsafe and was led by an international lobby.”

    saan palaneta nangaling ang nagsabi nito????

    • boypalaban

      planet opdi eyps…

      saang planeta nanggaling ang mga proRH: PLANETA NG MGA UTO UTO…

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    sellout.

  • Jomex

    tama ka batangsulpok, sa ibang maunlad na mga bansa, base sa research, ang contraceptives tulad ng condom, ay nakakatulong sa pagbaba ng abortion. nakakatulong ang contraceptives sa pagbaba ng unwanted pregnancies. at normally kapag may mga unwanted pregnancies, lalo na kung sampu na ang anak mo, ang babae ay napipilitang mag-abortion. ngayon sa pilipinas, marami na ang abortion, na pilit na dini deny ng simbahang Katolika. kung walang contraceptives tulad ng condom, walang option ang babae sa panganganak. Kaya sa pagpasa ng RH bill, mas makakatulong ito sa mga kababaihan.

    • boypalaban

      oo nga ano…halos wala nang abortion sa US, Sa Mexico, etc…
      ang galing ng analysis mo…
      mas ok pala magsex lang nang mag-sex kahit di kaya basta may condom…ayos natuto ako sa yo ng kababawan…
      ipagpatuloy mo yan…masugid na panatiko ng mga magnanakaw na pulitiko…congrats…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        mas ok “ang magsex lang nang max-sex kahit di kaya basta may condom” kaysa ang magsex lang nang max-sex kahit di kaya na walang condom.

      • boypalaban

        ganon lang ba yon…yarian nang yarian basta may pekeng proteksiyon laban sa unwanted pregnancy at STD?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        buti na may konting proteksiyon kaysa sa, uulitin ko lang ang sinabi ko, wala.

        papayag ako sa sinasabi mo kung 1) ni hinde sampong apak hinde ako makakita ng buntis na babae 2) sa isang taon, wala na akong naririnig sa news na may nahanap na bata na itinapon ng mga magulang niya 3) wala akong nakikitang bata na naglilimos o nagbebenta ng sampaguita sa edsa
        kung kaya mo tiyakin yan, papayag ako sa mga sinasabi mo.

        wala ka naman magagawa sa mga tao dito. kaya mo ba hintuin sila na mag-sex? umasa ka pa. 1) walang magawa 2) madalas maglasingan 3) mainit na panahon = madalas mag-sex. kahit nga sa luneta meron gumagawa.

        kung kaya mo palitan ang ginagawa ng mga tao dito, suporta kita. sa ngayon, ito lang ang nakikita ko na paraan para ayusin ito kasi wala na iba. kasama na dyan ang mga ibang anti-RH, kaysa puro lang kayo rason, gumawa kayo ng bagong solusyon kaysa puro nalang kayo reklamo.

        “Start giving your customer solutions rather than just information.” – Mark Hunter

      • boypalaban

        “papayag ako sa sinasabi mo kung 1) ni hinde sampong apak hinde ako
        makakita ng buntis na babae 2) sa isang taon, wala na akong naririnig sa
        news na may nahanap na bata na itinapon ng mga magulang niya 3) wala
        akong nakikitang bata na naglilimos o nagbebenta ng sampaguita sa edsa…”

        at kapag may RH Bill na unti unti nang mawawala yan? (kung mangarap ka’t magising)

        “sa ngayon, ito lang ang nakikita ko na paraan para ayusin ito kasi wala na iba.”

        pabahain ng condom at contraceptives…bigyan ang mga streetchildren na nagtitinda ng sampagita at namamalimos…bigyan ng condom ang mga walang trabaho na naglalasingan…bigyan ng condom ang mga mahihilig…na nagyayarian kahit sa luneta…ok lang basta may pekeng proteksiyon…

        bilib na ako sa solusyon mo…
        pwede bang kopyahin…with permission from you?

      • Jomex

        youre twisting words, are you dishonest? i did not say “halos wala nang abortion” ang sabi ko “nakakatulong sa pagbaba” statistics shows regarding UNSAFE abortions that Latin America, Africa and Asia have 95%, 97%, 40% abortions per 1000 women respectively compared to 0.5% and 9% in North America and Europe respectively.

        According to the statistics, “laws that restrict abortion did not seem to lower the number of procedures. On the contrary, restrictive laws were associated with higher rates.”

  • ODAPAIN

    politicians should concentrate on having the political will to pass laws for our progress,and the catholic church should concentrate on spiritual guidance and stop  with politics where they dont belong.its make me sick the church sticks its hand in politics period,I pray to our ALMIGHTY GOD , that we separate church and state matters it makes for a bad and lost SOUL

    • boypalaban

       dasal ka sa mga drug lord na kakutsaba ng mga idol mong pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno…praise the lord…the drug lord…the gambling lord…the jueteng lord…ipasa niyo na ang RH Bill…mga lords….hahahahaha

      • manny

        cheap, trash…

  • hans0713

    everyone who understand the Bible knows that the catholic church is a pagan church that’s why many are leaving it’s grip. every week they pray that the RH bill be not approve but sad to say the Bible says that GOD doesn’t listen to sinners, so there you go.

    • boypalaban

      ako di ako katoliko…pero parang ikaw lang yata ang matino…
      nalipasan ka ba ng gutom o condom overdose yan?

    • Wally Ong

       everyone understands the bible knows that the bible came from the Catholic Church

  • hans0713

    For the past several weeks the catholic church had prayed that the RH bill be not approve but the Bible say that GOD doesn’t listen to sinners. The catholic church is a pagan religion as everyone who understand the Bible knows that’s why many are leaving this useless faith.

    • manny

      Really now.  Are you not aware of the more than 3,000 protestant pastors and biblical scholars converting to the Catholic Church since 1996 and still counting.  Not mentioning the exodus of bishops and priests from the Anglican communion and Episcopalian churches in America.  While it is true that conversion is a two way process, the quality of conversion to the Catholicism, that is, those who know the bible really well, and scholars in the history of Christianity, is all to the credit of the Catholic Church.  If you wish to verify this, its all in the web.  And God bless you!

    • brunogiordano

      “…that’s why many are leaving this useless faith. ”

      sabi ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP hindi naman daw marami ang umaalis.

      subalit pag pro-RH ang tawag ay PEKENG katoliko.

      CATHOLIC IN NAME ONLY(CINO)

    • boypalaban

      ikaw ano naman ang relihiyon mo? curious lang ako…di kasi ako katoliko…at di kasi katolikong relihiyon ang pinag-uusapan kundi ang RH Bill na hayok na hayok ka nang maipasa….

      pakibanggit ng relihiyon mo at nang masoplak ko…
      o ano pa…ibida mo na ang relihiyon mo…kahit satanista ka pa o ateista…o pagano ka…pakibanggit please….wag kang matakot…mapapalaban ka lang naman ng diskusyon sa akin na mas nanaisin mo pang tumahimik na lang…

      o dali na, ano ang peke mong relihiyon?

    • Wally Ong

       many are leaving because they cannot comprehend…but many are also converted and came back after restless effort in seeking the Truth

  • randyaltarejos

    The Commission on Population (POPCOM) introduced a program called Population and Development (POPDEV) in early 90s. It outlined the importance of limiting the number of children that any couple could afford to have vis-a-vis the basic services that the government could provide to each family. Couples were given the choice to have the number of children that they could afford to raise using the family planning methods that were acceptable to them. However, this program wasn’t translated into a policy due to absence of politcal will on the part of the leadership.

    • boypalaban

      due to corruption po yan…
      kaya kahit milyong batas na gaya ng RH Bill, wala ring mangyayari…intensiyon lang ng mga gumagawa niyan ay mangurakot…

  • tekateka

    Just by watching the News… The Philippines is like a Garbage Dump.. with people living like Rats… I hate it’s pig politics and  it’s filthy  church…  crimes and slimes everywhere… this country is a worthless trash…

    • Wally Ong

       dont watch the news therefore, its full of trash your right

    • mang_empoy

      Easy solution for you: Buy a plane ticket and never come back!
      If you only see this country as a worthless trash better for you to live somewhere else.
      The Philippines doesn’t need you.

  • Jomex

    youre twisting words, are you dishonest? i did not say “halos wala nang abortion” ang sabi ko “nakakatulong sa pagbaba” statistics shows regarding UNSAFE abortions that Latin America, Africa and Asia have 95%, 97%, 40% abortions per 1000 women respectively compared to 0.5% and 9% in North America and Europe respectively.
    According to the statistics, “laws that restrict abortion did not seem to lower the number of procedures. On the contrary, restrictive laws were associated with higher rates.”

    • Wally Ong

       Ok then so let’s legalize robbery, murder, rape, illegal drugs so that its rates will go down

  • NiJuSan

    PITIFUL

    Hahahahhaah!

  • randyaltarejos

    The government should begin re-educating the people, especially the marginalized, on the sad impacts of having too many children. This can be done by distributing pamphlets or komiks to the people a provision in the Constitution that spells out the separation of the Church and the State. Explain to the people that the Church has no business getting in the way of the government policies, whose intentions are for the upliftment of the quality of life, which is separate from the spiritual life.

    • boypalaban

      ganon ba katanga mga mahihirap at di alam ang epekto ng maraming pakakainin?
      ano ang ikinaiba ng spiritual life sa physical/material life? pag nasagot mo nang maayos proRH na ako…promise….

    • Wally Ong

       yes the government should educate the people and teach lasting skills like welding, machining, heavy equipment operation in this way many companies productivity and quality of product will increase and in return increase its market share and increase production and increase labor requirement and marami na may trabaho, marami magbayad ng buwis, the govt will have more money for infrastructure and the cycle continues….pamphlets lang? e kon yon tao hindi marunong magbasa?…turo-an muna magbasa pero nasa tao din yun kung gustong matoto

  • brunogiordano

    ang CATHOLIC CHURCH ngayon ay puno na ng mga PEKENG KATOLIKO(dahil sila ay pro-RH).

    ang iboboto nila ay mga pro-RH candidates.

    iilan na lang ang natitirang AUTHENTIC na KATOLIKO ngayon.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      And what would you prefer, killing a fetus or killing a child?

      Can you take away the right and the capability of every person in the country to have sex? No. Imagine what some of us feel when we see a news article about a child found in dead in a dumpster, or even more common, children begging on the streets.

      Do you even see a chance for these children who are most likely, “slaves” to someone who took them in.

      Yes, there are some people who chose to go with the RH bill, with their faith in consideration because its the only solution right now. If those against the RH Bill can provide a better one that works with our faith, go right ahead. We’re waiting.

      Until then, feel free to examine your faith and how you’re helping these kids or if you’re just riding along your beliefs without any action.

      • boypalaban

         read between the lines…pareho kayong proRH, wag kayo magtalo…hihihihi

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        “read between the lines” – follow your own advice, dinagdag ko yan para sa mga kagaya mo.

      • boypalaban

        nahuli ba kita pagdating sa “comprehension”?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        Ibabalik ko parin yan sayo kasi mukhang pwede naman ang sinabi ko.

        Ganyan pala makipaglaban ang anti-RH, puro nga rason o ibang reklamo na walang kinalaman sa main topic. Baka mamaya icopy-paste mo pa mga sinusulat ko para i-spellcheck sa MS Word. Nako. Make Sotto proud, sir.

      • boypalaban

        di ba mas bihasa kayong mga proRh pagdating sa Damaso, pedopilya, Dark Ages, Vatican, CBCP,plagiarism, …pero wala kayong matibay na rason pagdating sa RH Bill?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        I-search mo ito, “Are we safe yet? A look at the Philippine crime situation” by Charlie V. Manalo
        Maglakad ka sa Edsa nang makita mo ang mga naglilimos na mga bata.

        Tingnan mo ang unemployment rate natin, tapos tingnan mo ang mortality rate natin.

        Yan ang mga rason ko. Kung ayaw mo maganap ang RH, gumawa ka ng ibang solusyon. Suporta kita. Kung puro panlaban lang na walang epekto ang magagawa mo, hinde mo din mapapalitan ang mga isip ng mga tao.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    ITALY and ISRAEL, the Original christians, have Universal RH for the people.

    Wag na tayong TRYING HARD catholics.

    Daming Gutom sa kalsada.

    • boypalaban

      balik ka na naman sa dati mong mga komento steven zahl…
      wala ka na bang bago…
      bago lang sa yo username…ganon pa rin ang komento…walang kwenta…

    • Wally Ong

       daming gutom sa kalsada e di pakainin

      • artz555

        Please read also my reply above to mang_empoy. Thank you.

    • Wally Ong

       that’s why they are slowly dying…there would be a time that there are no more Italians

    • mang_empoy

      What original christians? Any follower of Christ in words and in deeds, irregardless of place and time, is an original christian.

      There is no such thing as trying hard catholics, only faithful and genuine ones.

      So what is the response of a good christian sa maraming gutom na tao sa kalsada? E di bigyan sila ng trabaho at pagkain, hindi ng contraceptives! 

      • marionics

        mala 5 loaves and 2 fish ba pre? he he

      • mang_empoy

        grabe naisip mo yon? talino mo talaga!

      • marionics

        he he nahulaan ko lang ang nasa isip mo na pre he he

      • artz555

        Th solution of increasing poverty and hunger in PH is a complex one but the following points should be considered by everyone : 

        a) The PH government can help the present poor and the hungry families with it’s Condition Cash Transfer (CCT) program, and also provide these families with descent jobs with the implementation of infrastructure projects, and other livelihood projects in their localities.

        b)  In order to prevent these poor families from forever depending on the CCT for money to raise their families, the government should not only provide jobs for needy people, but should also provide guidance to these people to properly plan their families, so that they can keep the right size of their families to a number that they can easily afford to raise. 

        c) This will prevent irresponsible people from bringing more children into this world that they cannot afford to feed, to clothe and to educate. In other words, the recipients of aid, like the CCT, should be more responsible enough to contribute to society, and not become burden to society. And the government can help them in this regard.

        d)  And the government, with it’s limited funds and resources every year, would not be overburdened with increasing CCT funds to take care of more and more poor families and more and more unwanted children on the streets every year, and other related problems, like increasing crime, food, education, more schools, housing, and more jobs, etc. for everyone. 

        e) One of the major solutions to the above problems is of course, the passage of a sensible RH program in Congress, which majority of the Filipinos in most surveys are in favor of, simply because these people know these problems and are  familiar with them.

        A sensible RH bill will in the end, contribute a lot, to the alleviation poverty and hunger in PH,  and ultimately improve the quality of life of everyone year after year. 

        So please pass the RH bill now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        “So what is the response of a good christian sa maraming gutom na tao sa kalsada? E di bigyan sila ng trabaho at pagkain, hindi ng contraceptives!”

        Madaling sabihin. Kaya mo gawin? Go ahead and hire street children and see if you don’t get charged for employing minors. You want an alternative to the RH Bill? Take down all the money-grubbing corporations, corrupt government officials and those who shouldn’t be in the office. While you’re at it, raise minimum wage and lower inflation rates, stamp out crime and increase foreign investments.

        Easy to say. Hard to do.

    • julymorning

       GUNGGONG KA TALAGA KATULAD NI SENADURA BRENDA AT ULYANING LAGMAN. KASALANAN BA NG SIMBAHAN KUNG MADAMING GUTOM SA KALSADA? KASALANAN YAN NG MGA MAGULANG NILANG TAMAD AT AYAW MAGBANAT NG BUTO AT KASLANAN NG MGA MAGNANAKAW SA GOYERNO KATULAD NG MGA WALANG GINAWA NA SILA MERYAM AT LAGMAN AT ABNOY KUNDI ANG MAGPUTAK NG MAGPUTAK TUNGKOL SA PUPOLASYON GAYONG ANG NUMERO UNONG PROBLEMA NG BANSA AY ANG 99 PROSYENTO NA MGA PULITIKONG KATULAD NILA NA MGA MAGNANAKAW SA KABAN NG BAYAN. AT ETONG RH BILL NA ETO AY SINUSULONG NG MGA MAYAYAMANG PHARMACEUTICAL COMAPNIES NA MAGBIBIGAY NA NAMAN SA KANILA NG MILYONES HABANG ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP AY SISISIHIN SA DAMI NG ANAK PERO DI MAN LANG NILA MAIBIGAY ANG KARAMPATANG MGA BENEPISYO NG CONSTITUENTS

  • mang_empoy

    Ang sisisihin na naman nitong mga Pro-RH ay Simbahan samantalang malinaw pa sa araw na kasalanan ng mga Pro-RH lawmakers na always absent!

    Kung seryoso kayo sa inyong “paglilingkod” at “paninilbihan” sa taumbayan, umattend kayo ng session nyo sa House para maipasa na ang pinakamamahal nyong RH Bill.

    Wala eh. Parang mga eat and run. Nakuha na ang gusto kaya absent na! Paano na iyong RH Bill nyo? Seryoso kayo dun diba? Kasi seryoso rin ang population ng Pilipinas sabi nyo? Tapos ngayon Simbahan ang may kasalanan?

  • marionics

    wow! eto na yata ang pinakamababang uring mga argumerntong nasilip ko sa isyung ito so far. grabe. lalo na sa mga bagong salta lang dito sa forum hahaha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Put the current one to a vote already.  Go to the substitute bill only if it fails.

    ‘Santiago also pointed out that only the Catholic Church opposed the
    RH bill among major churches in the Philippines, including the Iglesia
    ni Cristo, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, National Council
    of Churches in the Philippines, Interfaith Partnership for the Promotion
    of Responsible Parenthood, and the Assembly of Darul-Iftah of the
    Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao.’

    Note that these are local churches, lead by local leaders, not locals actually lead by old, rich, white men in Rome.  I wonder why the people who are actually aware of the local situation are in favor of the bill while the masters of the CBCP, who’ve never set foot in the country and have never walked the slums of Metro Manila, are not.

  • Albert Einstien

    RH BILL  anti- FILIPINO! anti-PROGRESS, anti-PATRIOTISM,anti-HUMAN…

    AUSTRALIA, JAPAN, SINGAPORE, RUSSIA, GERMANY, FRANCE, GREECE, SCANDANAVIAN countries….ALL are trying very hard to INCREASE their population…some are offering BIRTH BONUS and incentives like free health care, maternity benefits, tax breaks , subsidies & allowances…
    CHINA with 1.4 billion population is ABANDONING it’s ONE CHILD policy….YET our TRAITOR POLITICIANS want to MURDER our GENES & future generations of Filipinos….

    MAIN REASON :targeted populated countries may easily become threats to world peace

    The list of recommendations made in the Conference of the Milbank Memorial Fund include:

    “It is important that specific and widespread propaganda be directed to developing an interest in the health and welfare of children rather than in large families for their own sake. Such education would also involve propaganda in favor of controlled fertility as an integral part of a public health program. It is important to develop a native leadership that will acquire new values rapidly and serve as a medium for their diffusion. To this end native political leaders, civil servants, and native middle classes are needed.”

    ” we are targeted for depopulation & population control….DONT KILL our UNBORN LEADERS ”

    • “ RISE my Philippines RISE “

    EVERY Filipino Family will be MULTI-millionaires by 2050
    ( both muslim & christian brothers )

    your grandsons & granddaughters will be masters of the world

    NO Filipino will suffer SLAVERY in foreign land..

    PROTECT these resources with utmost PATRIOTISM…

    Why are we always in poverty & war?

    Why they dont want the archipelago to be as UNITED?

    Why are we targeted for Population & de-population control ?

    Why is the Philippines targeted for brain-drain & intellectuals are pirated abroad?

    Why are we NOT allowed to have a POWERFUL ARMed FORCES ?

    Why are we having lunatic leaders & family of traitors as our champions & leaders?

    ANSWER : Foreign Interest/s manipulated us because PHILIPPINES is the RICHEST country in the WORLD! They want to ENSLAVE our people & take our RESOURCES….

    “ Literally philippines is a PARADISE in a land of GOLD blessed by GOD ( Gold,gas Oil & Deuterium )..

    “ we the most evolved & intelligent human specie are walking literally in a land of gold “
    ISLAND PARADISE

    An archipelago comprising 7,107 islands, the Philippines is categorized broadly into three main geographical divisions: Luzon, Visayas, & Mindanao. In addition the BENHAM Rise.. 250 km wide new territory. The Philippines’ rainforests and its extensive coastlines make it home to a diverse range of birds, plants, animals, and sea creatures. It is one of the ten most biologically megadiverse countires and is at or near the top in terms of biodiversity per unit area. Our beautiful islands are the envy of the world we are surrounded by soft white & pearly black beaches. Most of the mountainous islands are covered in tropical rainforest and volcanic in origin. The Apo Reef is the country’s largest contiguous coral reef system and the second-largest in the world. The Philippines has a tropical maritime climate and is usually hot and humid. There are three seasons: the hot dry season or summer the rainy season ; and the cool dry season . The perfect climate system in the Philippines makes its air and atmosphere free from man made pollution after the system of storms cleansed the territory during rainy season & disinfecting the land by exposure to the sun’s ultra-violet rays in hot dry season. This is the best country in world to live in if the insurgency problem caused by poverty is solved by the tapping of the nation’s resource thereby freeing the people from poverty..

    Located within the Pacific Rim of Fire, the Philippine archipelago is hypothesized as having been formed 43 million years ago. Its 7,109 islands rest on top of underwater mountains formed by the outpourings of molten rocks from the earth’s interior, thus creating an ideal setting for mineral deposition. (After Wolfe, J.A., “Origin of the Philippines by Accumulation of Allochthons” in The Philippine Geologist July- September 1983 Issue, p.17)
    In the archipelago, resurgent volcanoes particularly provided access for rising gold-bearing solutions which cool to the geotherm of 300 degrees Celsius at about 400 m depth. At this point, the gold began to precipitate and epithermal gold deposits were formed over geologic time of 1.5 million years from the present time. (After Wolfe, J. A., in International Mineral Development Sourcebook, 1993)

    HUMAN resource..

    .we are the ONLY Country in the world ..who speaks 175 languages & dialects with literacy rate of 93.4% . Most speak fluent & write foreign languge like english , spanish,nihongo,arabic, mandarin,hindi, & malay than country of origin..some elderly can still speak latin…Average Filipino can at least speak 3 foreign language & 2 dialects..while the rest of the world can speak only english & their native tounge…the people are educated, fun loving, resilient, hospitable & industrious… in fact , currently the economy is heavily reliant on remittances which surpass foreign direct investment as a source of foreign currency. Therefore the more population more benefit for the economy. The Philippines need a HUGE population & Army if it intends to tap the resources otherwise foreign invasion can easily land on its shores & control can be had without a sweat.…

    MINERAL resource….

    .Initial Lode and placer GOLD DEPOSITS occur in most of the 73 out of 83 provinces in the Philippines.The ten provinces were not properly tested yet due to internal conflicts & war. The 1996 $2.1TRILLION value resource estimate based on conservative 10% ( $21 trillion total estimate ) maybe deficient and could double to $42 trillion or more of the actual resource.. . … such amount could catapult this country to first world status .. we could even buy americas $16 Trillion debt..
    Also, we have .$26.3-Trillion Oil Reserves ..Country’s Untapped Deposits Mostly In Spratlys Philippines News Agency April 25, 2012, MANILA, Philippines- The Philippines is “sitting on a mountain of gold,” with untapped hydrocarbon deposits estimated at $26.3 trillion, mostly found in the disputed Spratly chain of islands, more than enough to free the country from the shackles of poverty.Also if we are able to claim SABAH… It has the potential to produce 1 million barrels of oil a day,” “The estimated reserves from the present Sabah oilfields is 1.4 billion barrels of oil and 7.7 trillion scf of gas.” …Malaysia govt does not even give our sabahan brothers share of their on wealth ONLY PETRONAS ( govt corp ) which give sabah a PITIFUL royalty of 5%…

    That amount is even without considering the UNQUANTIFIABLE value today (maybe thousands of $ trillion ) of the resources that can be found in our new territory called the BENHAM rise a 250km wide domain which is perceived to contain very huge oil & gas deposits & the envy of world for we are the proud owner of the vast DEUTERIUM deposits with a 868 mile long find in Philippine trench. With these resources properly tapped we are bigger than america & arabia combined.. : .yet many potential mineral & natural reserves are still HIDDEN n our archpelago…

    BENHAM RISE new Philippine territory 250 km wide –GMA LEGACY

    Despite its proximity to the archipelago, the plateau was previously not included in the territory of the Philippine Islands. On 8 April 2009 ( GMA govt. filed the claim to UN now we owned it.. eventually our history & after the political vendettas ….legislature might rename the benham rise to GMA rise to give honor to its finder/claimant .. ), the Republic of the Philippines lodged a partial territorial waters claim with the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in relation to the continental shelf in the region of Benham Rise. The UN has officially approved the claim in April 2012. The Philippines may soon be able to provide its own energy through Benham Rise, an underwater ridge to the east of Luzon which is believed to have mineral and gas deposits. The Philippines claim over Benham Rise is “very relevant” because scientific surveys indicate minerals and natural gas in the area. Solidified methane was found during mapping activities and the “probability is very high” there are oil deposits. There may be more natural gas than oil, and is considered better because it is cleaner. Benham Rise, which is bigger than Luzon, Samar, and Leyte combined, is being claimed solely by the Philippines

    GREATEST of them ALL- “ DEUTERIUM the Gift of Nature “- MARCOS LEGACY

    “ the Philippines trench has the LARGEST DEPOSIT of deuterium with 868 mile long 52 mile wide “
    If we allow production even for just a portion of this natural deposit… the Philippines will already become a first world country.. what more if we produce a quarter of it… Deuterium has several commercial and scientific uses today. It has become much more than the heavy water many countries sought after during World War II.Deuterium, a form of concentrated hydrogen, is used in the production of natural gas now utilized in Canada, America, Germany and Sweden, to provide fuel for cars, trucks , jet planes, & deuterium fuel for fusion reactors.”Deuterium can replace gasoline, (liquefied petroleum gas), (liquefied natural gas), Avgas, etc. in powering all types of internal combustion engines including maybe SPACE ships of the future & can be use in space explorations…. It does not emit pollutants or any harmful carbon monoxide and does not cause any environmental problems because it is in the water family. We can build electric nuclear plants in the middle of the URBAN cities of the world ! we will power & feed the world at the same time.
    Just imagine the philippines at the forefront of human evolution, science , technology & space exploration

    The GOOD news is we have UNLIMITED deposit of it!

    this is NOT a sotto or church position…this is for LOVE of COUNTRY & PATRIOTISM……!!!

  • kilabot

    the rhbill is no substitute to poverty.

    which of the following will help alleviate poverty?
     1) give free artificial birth control contraceptives (aka 17B rh bill) to control population growth;
     2) use of natural birth control techniques (aka hit-n-run) to control population growth;
     3) encourage people to practice a life of celibacy (aka monsignor-fast) to control population growth;
     4) practice lgbt lifestyle (aka anal_izing), increase 25% hiv/aids cases and a negative population growth;
     5) perpetual implementation of the cct (aka eternal-beggar) program;
     6) train the poor acquire skills and livelihood (aka sow-n-reap) using rh + cct budget (>17B total);

    No to rhbill.

  • Albert Einstien

    TRAITORS please read this…MOST countries are desperate to PRESERVE their GENES..

    you want to depopulate us.. while the WORLD is desperate for POPULATION increase…
    RUSSIA : declared that women choosing to have a second child would receive 250,000 rubles, nearly $11,000.

    CHINA : The China Development Research Foundation (CDRF) — a think tank affiliated with the Chinese government — has recommended that China gradually phase in a two-child policy over the next three years, and then cease all birth limits in the year 2020, according to a China Daily report.
     
    SINGAPORE : Desperate  in trying to increase population.. Singapore’s ‘baby bonus’ packages which included financial incentives to encourage couples to have two or more children. Parents were given a tax relief for having a third child. However, by the 1990s there was only a 1.6% growth in population which was still not high enough. To try to encourage couples to have children, married couples who had children before the age of 28 were offered a 7000 pounds tax break. Several additional measures included government-sponsored matchmaking efforts through a Social Development Unit. Its aim was to ‘romance Singapore’. A month-long festival in the Valentine’s period was introduced to try to bring people together.
     
    ITALY: The Italian government offers a one-time payment of 1,000 euros (£685) to couples who have a second child.
    Late last year a proposal that mooted paying women not to have abortions gained popular support in Parliament.

    SPAIN: the government introduced a national family policy but there is still a belief that family creation is a private matter. However, Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has been urging companies to set up child care facilities and promoting long-term employment over short-term contracts.
    Fully funded maternity leave can last for 16 weeks, and unpaid leave of three years is available, but only about one-third of Spanish mothers take up maternity benefits.

    FRANCE : It has some of the most extensive state-funded child care in Europe.
    Mothers can take 16 weeks paid maternity leave for the first child, rising to 26 weeks for the third child. There is also a total of 26 months parental leave.
    Last year, the government pledged more money for families with three children in an effort to encourage working women to have more babies.
    Child care facilities are subsidised by the government. Younger children are entitled to full-day childcare (crèches). For children aged two to three there are pre-school programmes for which families pay on a sliding scale.

    POLAND: The Polish parliament has passed legislation to pay women for each new child they have, in an effort to boost the country’s falling population.
    Under the scheme every woman will receive a one-off payment of 1,000 zlotys (258 euros; £177) – for each child she has. Women from poorer families will receive double that amount.
    The population has actually decreased by close to half a million in the last six years. But some women’s groups say payments are a quick fix and will not address the long-term trend

    GERMANY: Germany has long had one of the lowest birth rates in the European Union and one of the highest proportions of childless women. According to EU statistics from 2005, 30% of German women have not had children.
    Demographers say Germany’s problem has probably been made worse because it has been ignored for so long
    The government offers 14 weeks maternity leave plus parental leave of up to 36 months, with the level of pay depending on a number of factors.
    One of the biggest problems is a real lack of child care places. According to government figures, only one in five children under three get a place in day care. Not only do they close at lunch time, but the fees are incredibly high. Another problem for working parents is that traditionally, the school day ends at 1pm.
    The government has now lifted the birth rate to the top of the political agenda. In January, it adopted a bill to give tax breaks to families. It has also floated the idea of eliminating fees for kindergarten.
    UK : New mothers currently get six months’ paid leave and the option of six months further unpaid leave. The first six weeks are at 90% of pay and the next 20 at £102.80 per week. New fathers are allowed two weeks’ paid leave at a maximum £102.80 a week.
    The government offers free early education places. Children from the age of four get free part-time places at nurseries – some three year olds also get places.
    Parents of children under the age of six have the right to ask their employers for more flexible working hours.

    SWEDEN & NORWAY : Nordic governments employ a range of policies designed to help couples have more children. These governments have a long history of social policies aimed at helping people balance their work and family life. This is part of what is known as the “Nordic model”.
    In Sweden, each parent is entitled to 18 months leave, which is paid for by the government. Public day care is heavily subsidised and flexible work schedules are common – women with children of pre-school age are entitled to reduce their working hours. Women’s participation in the work force is high. In Norway, mothers are entitled to 12 months off work with 80% pay or 10 months with full pay. Fathers are entitled to take almost all of that leave instead of the mother. Fathers must take at least four weeks leave or else those weeks will be lost for both parents. The leave is financed through taxes, so employers don’t lose out.

    ( thanks to various contributors figures lifted &  culled from different sources )

    • artz555

      The RH bill should have been passed by Congress 13 years years ago. But because of meddling of the Church and foreign interests ( repeat foreign interests ), who have been brainwashing the Filipinos for hundreds of years for the formers’ own  interests and benefits, PH has lag behind most countries in Asia and the world for years, and will continue to suffer, if things don’t change and if the RH bill is not passed by Congress.

      Consider  the following too :  

      a) China, which was behind PH in per capita GDP and standard of living only 30 -35 years ago is now the second largest economy in the world with 11 trillion dollars in GDP ( second only to the US with 15 trillion dollars) and  has twice the per capita GDP than PH, mainly because of their one-child policy. 
        
         The new Communist leaders of China just announced in  their plans, to increase their country’s per capita GDP, which only means that they are not going to abandon the one-child  policy anytime soon ( whatever their think-tanks believe ) or risk also internal revolts from it’s people.

      b) Italy, where the Vatican is located, Spain, which colonized PH for over 350 years,and France which is the second largest economy in Europe, ( 2nd only to Germany ), and other countries in Europe, have enjoyed high per capita GDP for it’s people, ( with per capita GDP of $ 25,000 to $ 35,000 compared to about $ 8,200 for China and $ 4,200 for PH,  from Wikipedia statistics. ) for decades now.

       These European countries, Singapore ( with about $ 59,000 per capita GDP ), Japan ( with about $ 35,000 per capita GDP ), and others, have maintained their high per capita GDP’s and low populations, mainly because of their universal RH, which they have had for decades since WW2, Their people are happy and contented  with high standards of living compared to other countries without universal RH. This then is allowing these countries to give incentives and perks for their people for whatever goals they want ; and of course, hire OFW’s from PH for jobs their people may not want to do.  
        
      Hence, the need to pass an RH bill in the PH Congress now, because the current conditions will only worsen things in the future ( which may have already been proven in the last 12 years by comparing PH with it’s neighbors now ). Unless the Filipinos want these suffering to continue now, and in the future. 

      Hence, pass the RH bill now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

    Still seeing alot of reasons and no solutions.

  • juan_tanga

    pag naka pasa na ang RH bill, YAYAMAN na ang pilipinas. WHEW!!!

  • FireEconomist

    Traitors? now I just wanted to take more home pay for the next few years,
    FYI the reason why despite the government is announcing GDP growth since in time in memorial 
    but was never felt by the masses is the because of the GDP/Population gap,People here are mentioning Singapore who’s economy is just slightly bigger than ours but has just around 5million citizens that results to high Income per capita, and minimum wage 
      
    Philippines
    GDP:$227.584 billion
    Popultaion:100m
    Per capita:$2,277
    Average Wage:Php 7’700++ Monthly

    Singapore
    GDP: $259.849 billion
    Population:5million
    Per capita: $49,270
    Average Wage:Php 168’000++ Monthly

    FYI if RH Bill was at least passed in 1990 and our population population growth had 
    stabilized at least 1.5% per annum,Our current population would just be 60 million,
    with current GDP of $227B the current income per person will at least be 
    $3783 or Php12’900 already,or Php 615 peso minimum wage. Imagine that for a regulat worker receiving
    1.5x worth of bonus this christmas 

    If you cant do math then use a calculator

    • Albert Einstien

      RH POLITICIANS are TRAITORS, BRAINLESS, NO VISION at alll…. their selfish impaired vision is how to get elected …NOT how the COUNTRY will BECOME GREAT… that is why ..you are still what you are …..  that is what they want you to believed ..to become a SLAVE forever…..read again & again…our present  & past generation are SLAVES ..succeeding generations WILL be MASTERS of the WORLD……we have so much riches…more than enough EVEN to FEED the WORLD……all we have to do is to MULTIPLY , become a strong nation with huge army & population…& preserve the resources for the near future……what we ONLY need are VISIONARY patriotic filipino blood LEADERS…!

      • FireEconomist

        You couldn’t even make an intelligible argument,just go and sulk behind the skirt of that priest who abused you turned you into a lunatic 

      • Albert Einstien

        tsk tsk what a slave mindset…we can change the situation in the future by tapping our mineral & natural resources we have VAST reserves of it…but first we NEED to protect the territory & resources ….by having a huge army & population..& having a VISIONARY patriotic filipino blood leader…..if NOT we are VULNERABLE to INVASION not only by foreign governments but by ECONOMIC VULTURES …multi-national corporations &corrupt KKKs…

        AS OF today huge POPULATION is the backbone of our ECONOMY not the government…

        Philippine economy can’t do without OFW remittances – Neda

        “The inflow of remittances is about 30% the earnings of our exports sector, in nominal terms. In fact, it is even higher than the foreign direct investments that we are getting. Because of remittances, our country’s international reserves have been at comfortable levels, and this implies less vulnerability of the country to external shocks, lesser reliance on foreign savings, and availability of more currency that will help our country service its debts and pay its imports,”neda

        the remittances are a significant source of human capital development.

        “At the household level, remittances are used to finance human capital investments. A portion goes to the education of family members. Returning Filipinos from abroad also bring into our country a new breed of entrepreneurs. They are a source of technology transfers as well,”

        the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas has financial literacy programs for OFWs and their families, so that their money is placed in the right investments. ( neda )

        OFWs are contributing $20 BILLION in our fc reserves in 2012 …that is why we have $82 billion fc reserves ….not because of FDI’s ( its falling…hot money or foreign portfolio investments plunged to $40 million in October from $402 million posted in September. ) or government initiative…( spending )…

        BPO SECTOR: The IT-BPO industry is targeting $12 billion in revenue this year, higher than the $11 billion generated in 2011.

        The contact center component accounted for 65 percent of total business in 2011 with 416,000 employees providing $7.4 billion in services to the world.

        If you will see our people or huge population is the one SAVING our COUNTRY from economic collapse….due to govt noynoying & incompetence….

        Without huge population we are DOOMED now & in the Future….!

      • artz555

        OFW’s earning the country 20 billion dollars a year. is fine and and good. The BPO sector is growing and is also commendable. 

        PH can depend on BPO for a long time and the OFW’s maybe for a while. PH should grow and develop the BPO sector which will not affect the future per capita GDP growth for PH, if it keeps on growing.

         The OFW program will surely contribute to the PH economy but the downside is it would somehow reduce the future per capita per GDP growth of PH, simply because most of these OFWs are on a few years or the most 15 years contract and will eventually come back and be a part of the population. Only a few stay permanently abroad.
          
        Hence,  still the need  for a RH bill in order to maintain a balanced population growth, with GDP growing without sacrificing the growth of the per capita GDP, in which PH is already behind most progressive countries in Asia and the world.

        The need for a sensible RH program in PH has already been proven in the last 30-35 years or so. PH was not behind, or had equal, if not, ahead in per capita GDP ( which equates to the standard of living of a country ) comparing it to it’s neighbors Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand about 35 years ago or so.

        But since these neighbors had effective RH programs and PH had minimal or ineffective family planning program during that period, look what happened. Singapore today has 13 times the per capita GDP of  PH, Malaysia has 4 times the per capita GDP of PH, and Thailand has twice the per capita GDP of PH. This happened because these neighbors maintained their low populations and PH grew the fastest in population.

         In detail, Singapore with a population only of about 5 million has a per capita GDP of about $ 59,000 dollars ( US ); Malaysia with population of about 28 million  has about $ 16,000 per capita GDP; Thailand with a population of only 66  million has a per capita GDP of about $ 9,300, and PH with a population of 92 million has a per capita GDP only of about $ 4,200. ( all figures from Wikipedia )

        Hence, still the need for an effective RH in PH.

        So pass the RH bill now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        we can change the situation in the future by tapping our mineral & natural resources we have VAST reserves of it…but first we NEED to protect the territory & resources ….by having a huge army & population
        - Sounds like someone is suggesting we make more kids so that the army can conscript them against their will. Chinese dynasty much?

      • FireEconomist

        Slave mindset? Look at what you are advocating, sending of FIlipino’s to become labourer’s abroad and slaving into foreign  hands,and also FYI the church itself is against digging this countries mineral resources

      • Albert Einstien

        i’m advocating zero ofw by 2020 from foreign slaves to become nationalist forces of progress……..by then we are already harvesting our resources…but only the owf now are SAVING the economy of the philippines( labor force or big population )…..FDIs are  low….we have no choice for now  but to depend on ofw & bpos., present unemployment is 30% …there is an exudos of filipinos..due to incompetence of present leaders…..& rh bill designed to reduce population….we need huge population & large army,BRAINS & TALENTS in our own country in the NEAR future……when we begin production….i’m pro responsible & equitable production of resources..and …i’m  pro HUGE population …it is the key to become an idustrialized & strong country…

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        our present  & past generation are SLAVES ..succeeding generations WILL be MASTERS of the WORLD- Sounds like what a die-hard religious person would say – suffer and live humbly and be rich in the next life.

        we have so much riches…more than enough EVEN to FEED the WORLD……all we have to do is to MULTIPLY , become a strong nation with huge army & population…& preserve the resources for the near future
        - Sounds like what a die-hard communist would say.

  • tekateka

    CHURCH etc… IS A PAGAN RELIGION… I NEED YOUR REBUTTAL ST-UPID FANATICS:

    youtube this:

    Religion The Greatest Story Ever Sold (Zeitgeist)

    • Albert Einstien

      i’m also a fan of that great movie…people should watch it…it will open your horizon…  : > )

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PHILIPPINES IS NOT BISHOPS KATOLIBAN STATE” TERRORIST”’



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