Pro-RH lawmakers told to ignore threat of ‘negative Catholic vote’

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Albay Representative Edcel Lagman. RYAN LEAGOGO/INQUIRER.net

MANILA, Philippines — Albay Representative Edcel Lagman on Monday told advocates of the controversial Reproductive Health Bill not to fear the backlash of a negative Catholic vote.

In a statement, the main proponent of the RH Bill said that the fears of support on the proposed measure resulting in a negative Catholic vote had “no empirical basis.”

He said that local parishes’ priests “do not articulate with the same ferocity anti-RH tirades of some bishops because they are more aware of the ill-effects of the population problem on their parishioners.”

Citing data from the Social Weather Station’s survey back in October 2008, the legislator said that majority of Catholics at the time were in favor of the RH Bill. The survey pegged Catholics in support of the enactment of the RH Bill at 71 percent, adding that those backing the bill’s approval were “even higher among weekly church-going Catholics at 73 percent.”

“The Catholic vote is for the enactment of the RH Bill,” Lagman maintained, again citing data from SWS in March 2010 which showed that “most will vote for pro-RH Bill candidates with 38 percent of Filipino voters.” The survey stated that only six percent said they would not vote for legislators in support of the RH Bill while 20 percent said the issue would not affect their votes.

He also cited Pulse Asia reports which said 93 percent of Filipinos felt family planning was important while 82 percent believed that the state should inform couples about family planning methods.

“Fear is bankrupt of reason and should not be allowed to deter legislation and policy making,” Lagman said.

“Fear has always been used by the clergy as an instrument of repression and reprisal like fear of eternal damnation, fear of excommunication, fear of offending religious ministers, fear of contraceptives as abortifacients and carcinogenic, and fear of demographic winter,” he added.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    THERE IS NO “CATHOLIC VOTE” IN THIS 21st CENTURY……. its a myth for new generations of voters….voters today mostly knows the word in constitution “the seperation of estate & religion”.

    Pilipino People are suffering when do not have food on the table NOT this archbishops & clergy that used by Vatican to get more money in the Philippines though huge financial donations/contribution of corrupt elective officials in the Philippines.

    Roman-Catholic church never help the standard of living of Pilipino member(mostly are poor) that archbishops & clergys blame to government in which church is an institution that have role in society to uplift the lives of each member(not just to be ask for donations). I’m a catholic but I prefer to know and follow Jesus Christ teaching not the DOCTRINE of Roman-Catholic church that based from Vatican. Priest must get married and have family in order they will feel the real responsibility being a parent and a unit in society.

    I WOULD BELIEVE there are OFW VOTES….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES IN GOD WE CASH”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY MORE STREET CHILDREN ISNATCHER IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FASESU6FPUXJCZMOVMMFEEMLGU Carmencita Lopez

    there is no catholic vote. coz catholics are intelligent enough to vote with their mind. unlike some other groups.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FASESU6FPUXJCZMOVMMFEEMLGU Carmencita Lopez

    natalo nga si John Carlos de los Reyes dahil umasa sa catholic vote eh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    LET the Catholic CHURCH DICTATES and INTIMIDATE those who are in DOUBT of RH bill—-This Catholic church method WILL BACKFIRE on their FACE—
    PILIPINOS are NOT STUPID to be DICTATED—–

  • brunogiordano

    “Fear has always been used by the clergy as an instrument of repression
    and reprisal like fear of eternal damnation, fear of excommunication,
    fear of offending religious ministers, fear of contraceptives as
    abortifacients and carcinogenic, and fear of demographic winter,” he
    added. 

    TAMA!!!!!

    FEAR ang panakot ng mga SCAMMERS at OBISPO ng CBCP sa panloloko sa mga SUCKERS.

    matagal ng kumita ‘yon at wala ng naniniwala ngayon dito

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    “Fear has always been used by the clergy as an instrument of repression and reprisal like fear of eternal damnation, fear of excommunication, fear of offending religious ministers, fear of contraceptives as abortifacients and carcinogenic, and fear of demographic winter,” he(Lagman) added. ……

    Nuon pang panahon ni PADRE DAMASO at hangang ngayon, tinatakot ang mga tao…. na keso hindi makapasok sa langit pag sinuway ang pari o katuruan at alituntunin ng simbahan….KALOKOHAN!

    Atin pong balikan ang history ng Pilipinas nuong panahon ng Prayleng Kastila sa pamamagitan ng pagbabasa. Kung ano talaga pinag maltrato ng mga Pari ang mga Pilipino nuong panahon ng Kastilang bagla.

  • artz555

    Go, go, go Rep. E. Lagman !  and More power to you ! 

  • Facile1

    “Fear is bankrupt of reason and should not be allowed to deter legislation and policy making,” Lagman said.

    “There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment, and so one who fears is not yet perfect in love.” 1 John, Chapter 4:18

    If you are a man, you have nothing to lose (and, frankly, nothing to fear) should the RH bill pass into LAW.

    But if you are a woman, you will be treated as if you are “in need of medication” simply because your perfectly healthy body functions as it was designed to do — carry a pregnancy to term.

    Exposing HEALTHY Filipino women (albeit the “poorest of the poor”) to the UNNECESSARY risks (however small) of oral contraceptives when free, safer and healthier alternatives exist shows CONTEMPT.

    The RH Bill has only contempt for the Filipino woman.
    The RH Bill has only contempt for her social status.
    The RH Bill has only contempt for her religious convictions.
    The RH Bill has only contempt for her constitutional rights.

    BUT most of all, the RH Bill has only contempt for her healthy female body.

    Why VOTE for fear when one can vote for LOVE?

    Show your LOVE for the Filipino woman. Vote ‘NO’ to this contemptuous — and contemptible — RH bill.

    • brunogiordano

      Ang nais ng mga BABAE ay sila ang mag decision sa kanila katawan(PRO-CHOICE).

      Hindi ‘yong mga BABAE-hatrers.

      • Facile1

        If you cannot compose an original, ‘grammatically correct’ sentence in English, you are NOT qualified to voice an opinion on a proposed Philippine LAW written in English.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      hahahah.

      NO.

      Pass the RH Bill now!

      • Facile1

        If you cannot compose an original, ‘grammatically correct’ sentence in English, you are NOT qualified to voice an opinion on a proposed Philippine LAW written in English.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        hahaha.

        again, NO.

        Pass the RH law.

    • dkgboy

      We love Filipino women.They are our mothers, the mothers of the sons and daughters of our masses.But how I wonder why the lady senators and congresswomen are most plural in espousing the R Health bill.

      • Facile1

        It should not be surprising that many women are filled with self-loathing.

        When widow-burning has been practiced in India since the 4th BC …
        When adulteresses are still being stoned to death from the time of Christ until now under the Muslim Sharia Law …
        When there is a ‘glass ceiling’ to women’s career paths in developed countries in Europe and the US …
        When all over the world, women’s female bodies are being treated like the enemy by Population Control advocates JUST BECAUSE her body can carry a pregnancy to term (as it is designed to do) …

        Why should it surprise anyone that many women are filled with self-loathing?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    In my province, there is a foot bridge or overpass connecting one side of the road to the opposite side that leads to a big mall. Whenever I cross the bridge I always notice malnourished children sleeping naked on the concrete flooring, with begging bowls beside them. However, on the opposite side in front of the mall are parked Pajeros perhaps owned by politicians and some bishops who are shopping inside the mall and who have never crossed the bridge on foot nor seen those street children, perhaps already abandoned by their poor parents.

    This is the sad reality in life. Politicians and Bishops alike are living in other worlds and without grasp of what’s happening outside their air-conditioned offices and palaces.  

    PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IDJC4KMFHUSV6Z6HW5YEWZSL4I yvonne

      RESPONSIBLE PARENTHOOD aka REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH BILL: FOR TAGALOGS
      ONLY!!! (to eliminate selfishness, corruption and economic
      discrimination based on ethnicity)

      JUST SPARE THE BEAUTIFUL AND GOOD AND FAITHFUL PEOPLE OF THE VISAYAS AND MINDANAO.
       

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SCIENCE IS REAL CBCP BISHOPS IS TALIBAN TERRORIST”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IDJC4KMFHUSV6Z6HW5YEWZSL4I yvonne

     RESPONSIBLE PARENTHOOD aka REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH BILL: FOR TAGALOGS ONLY!!! (to eliminate selfishness, corruption and economic discrimination based on ethnicity)

    JUST SPARE THE BEAUTIFUL AND GOOD AND FAITHFUL PEOPLE OF THE VISAYAS AND MINDANAO.

  • UrHONOR

    HANGGANG ngaw-ngaw lang yang tinatawag na kaTOLik votes.  Maaari pang maniwala sa INK votes…pero sa kaTOLik votes, NADA…BOTA’.

    Katulad na din ng dati at katulad na din ng pinagdikdikang pananakot ng RCCh sa mga tao noon pang panahon ng pagsampa ng TNL na RCCh na yan sa bayan….”ANG HINDI MANIWALA AT SUMUNOD SA UTOS NG DIYOS NA SA AMIN PINADADAAN AY WALANG IBANG PUPUNTAHAN AT TUTULOY-TULOY SA MAINIT NA LUGAR TULAD NG LITSUNAN NI MANG TEBAN PAG NAMATAY”.  Ang inosenteng si Juan naman dahil nahihiyang hindi pagbigyan si Damasing ay, yon, hook-line-sinker sinalo ng buong-buo ang pananakot.  At hindi doon lang nagtapos….tinakot na, kinakaltasan pa si Juan sa kanyang kinikita!  Nangibgikil na,  bi hindi naman nakikisama sa bayaran sa gastusin ng bayan sa pamamagitan ng pagbayad ng buwis.  DOBLE KABIG ang labas: Kaltas at Walang Buwis.  Tapos may kapangyarihan pa galing sa Diyos!  Anak Zapote, paano mo tataluhin ang ganyang partido?  Kahit na si Darna at Kapitan Kidlat maluluma sa kapangyarihan ng TNL na si Gen. Bis. Fr. Msgr. Damasing.

  • No Mind

    RH for business or Religions doing monkey business? Think of those dying malnourished children. Give government a chance to govern! Stop deceiving millions please. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T42Q37DX5BRWJ5NRYTBC2DXUAU Jols – batman Robin

    bakit ba nakikialam tong mga pari na to….at hinaharangan ung RH Bill…..bakit KULANG PA BA UNG KOLECTION NINYO….E GAWIN NYONG IKATLO UNG KOLECTION….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA Ben

    Let the Filipinos vote for the RH tapos, congress should be freed from it so they can do more for the economy, enegizing the science and math education, and research and development of the country, political liberalization and military upgrading…..let the Filipinos vote for the RH and US VFA….tapos and debate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    CATHOLIC church believes PILIPINO are STUPID—–PILIPINOS can DECIDE by themselves—–

    • opinyonlangpo

      They say more than eighty percent are catholics. . . .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    LET US CONDEMN THE CATHOLIC FOR THEIR ANTI FILIPINO, ANTI PROGRESS. THEY WANT SEE THE FILIPINOS SUFFER.THEY WANT TO SEE MORE RUGBY BOYS ALL OVER THE STREETS. DO NOT VOTE FOR CANDIDATES WHO ARE ANTI RH. OUR PROGRESS SHOULD NOT BE BLOCKED BY THESE REMNANTS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

  • boybakal

     Pro-RH lawmakers told to ignore threat of ‘NEGATIVE CATHOLIC VOTE’

    I thought awhile that being Catholic is always positive, no matter what.
    Now, I learned that Catholics are Negative….I will change my religion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Do not be afraid of those IMAMS, este priests, trying to control the country.
    PH is not a Taliban state.

    We are not KATOLIKISTAN.

  • disqusted0fu

    voters are voters, it should not matter what religion they are in. what lawmakers and all leaders should look at is whats best for the country and not be selfish in thinking whats best for them and their image.  or what will make them popular or not. voters must vote based on performance in public service, and not for anything else. thats what we elect them for anyway, to serve the country and the public.

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