Bishops downplay doom scenario, but ‘be ready’



Bishops of the Catholic Church have a ready reply to the doomsday scenario that is to take place in less than a month as supposedly suggested by the Mayan calendar and now circulating widely online and on the streets.

The former president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines and now Iloilo Archbishop Angel Lagdameo nodded sadly in response to the prediction that the world is going to end on Dec. 21, 2012, the end-date of a 5,125-year cycle of the calendar of the Maya, whose civilization once flourished in Central America.

“Theologically, the world has been ending,” Lagdameo rued. “The world in which we are living today is far different from the world of yesteryears.”

Batangas Archbishop Ramon Arguelles gave a stauncher response: “Their world is ending but don’t involve mine. For some people, due to misdeeds and un-Godly ways, their world ends with eternal damnation.”

He added, “For us who believe in God, the world is made perfect in eternal bliss. Those who destroy God’s world will end up in disaster. Those who protect God’s world will enter God’s fullness.”

Arguelles noted that Dec. 21 was also the anniversary of his ordination as a priest.

“My ordination day can never be a day of wrath. It will always be a day of blessing. Believe me,” he said.

Sorsogon Bishop Arturo Bastes reminded the faithful that “only God” can say with certainty the fate that awaited the world.

“Only God knows when or what time, month, day or hour the world will end,” he said. But, he added, “it will surely end.”

“Just be ready at all times.”

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  • Karabukov

    “It’s not that I’m afraid to die. I just don’t want to be there when it happens.” Woody Allen

  • Pablo316

    The world will not end in December 21, 2012 (for the Bible details other events which should happen before the present world as we know it will end) the Lord Jesus Christ was not being poetic when He said those things, it is very clear from the text say of Matthew chapter 24 that the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed prophesying for the coming end of this age, not the physical world at least at this moment as indicated by the texts in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.

    To mention there’s still to be the Millennium in which the Lord Jesus Christ together with all the true Christians and Jewish believers will rule the entire world from Jerusalem Israel for 1000 years. After such a millennial rule, the Great White Throne judgment will happen (besides the shepherd and goat judgment which will take place before the Millennium) and then the earth and the heaven will be written down for destruction to give way for the new heaven and new earth.

    What may happen at anytime without warning is the gathering up of the true Christians to be with the Lord Jesus Christ and will come down with the Lord Jesus Christ later to fight in the battle of Armageddon (see Revelation 19).

    May this issue prompts people who have regards for God to read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Bible.

    God bless!

    • brunogiordano

      Bible, gamit ng mga scammers sa pangloloko ng mga SUCKERS.

      • Pablo316

        Yes I know that is why people should be knowledgable of the true content of the Bible so that they won’t be fooled by these false teachers.

        Knowledge of the written words of God is very important as the Bible says:

        “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.” (Ephesians 4:14)

        And concerning these false teachers and impostors, the Holy Book says:

        “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)


        ”Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.” (2 Corinthians 2:17)

      • brunogiordano

        “…people should be knowledgable of the true content of the Bible”

        bible- handbook of bad morals – Jose Saramago, very knowledgable person sa bible.

      • Pablo316

        I just realized that I’ve just thrown what is holy to a dog and a pig which obviously does not have any use for it.

      • brunogiordano

        “I just realized that I’ve just thrown what is holy to a dog and a pig which obviously does not have any use for it.”

        Typical na sagot ng isang NAPIKON na fanaticong fundamentalist.


      • Facile1

        ‘Name-calling’ is beneath you. But I understand your frustration with people like ‘brunogiordano’ who argue with ‘non-sequitur’ and ‘ad hominem’ fallacies.

        I believe there is something in the bible about “shaking the dust off one’s sandals” when a town rejects a disciple of Christ.

        God bless. 

      • Pablo316

        Yes thanks also kapatid!

    • Facile1

      Thank you. This helped me.

  • brunogiordano

    “For some people, due to misdeeds and un-Godly ways, their world ends with eternal damnation.”

    Presumptuous and irrational statement.

    Bakit ang pedophiles sin ay forgivable sa Vatican ???

    • Karabukov

      All sins are forgivable, except one: Refusal to ask for forgiveness from an all-forgiving God.

      • brunogiordano

        “All sins are forgivable, except one: Refusal to ask for forgiveness from an all-forgiving God. ”

        ‘yan ang paniwala mo hindi ng VATICAN.

      • Karabukov

        Yun din ang paniwala ng Vatican at ganoon din ng kahit sinong naniniwala sa nagpapatawad na Diyos. Damnation to those who are not sorry for their own misdeeds. “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23

      • Facile1

        I ‘liked’.

        For some reason, I mistook you for an atheist. Sorry. (It was all that ‘keynesian’ talk I think.)

      • Karabukov

        I’m sure everyone goes through that phase, or at least a period of angst and doubt and I suppose we make a decision to believe (or not to believe) in God many times in our lives. The lucky ones get to directly experience Him one way or another but not all of us are like Lazarus or Bernadette or Saul on his way to Damascus and some of us have to be content with philosophizing from the minimum requirements of Blaise Paschal who used common sense to conclude that it’s better to believe and be correct than to not believe and be in error, to Kant’s 5 proofs of God’s existence though much as I would like to understand him I keep suspecting he’s doing circular reasoning or made some kind of escape route the way Descartes did out of his cogito ergo sum. But in the end, if we have the chance, or the grace, not to be surprised, “There are no atheists in the foxhole.”

      • Facile1

        Having slugged through the books of Hans Kung myself, I’ve come to disagree. The circuitous path of reason has got to be the longest and the most tedious way to finding God. I would not recommend it to anyone. Life is too short.

        FAITH must make one happy. If one is not happy in one’s FAITH, one has to keep looking. It is so important to be a happy person. Happy persons tend to think more clearly, love more generously, and live more courageously. Unhappy persons are like toxic waste dumps that can suck the very life force out of loved ones — theirs and others.

        St. Thomas Aquinas said “Love follows knowledge.”

        I disagree.

        I say, “We cannot hope to know what we do not love FIRST.”

        Knowledge follows LOVE.

        As humans we WILL love first. It is our God-given nature. But it is only when we love GOD FIRST that we come to know the TRUTH and arrive at FAITH.

        I must admit this is actually circular reasoning because GOD is the TRUTH.  BUT this is also why one cannot reason one’s way to FAITH.

        I wish you happy.

      • Karabukov

        You have opened my mind’s eye I’m almost ashamed at the way I looked at faith. Thank you so much.

        It is so true what you say. I’ll keep it, I hope forever. 

  • Bengatibo

    I wonder why the newspapers want to get the opinion of Padre Damaso regarding Mayan Doomsday Scenario??? Sa tingin ni Padre Damaso napaka-importanteng Praile sila dahil hinihingi ang kanilang opinion sa lahat nang bagay pati na ang pulitika, kaya mahilig silang sumawsaw sa mga issues na hindi naman dapat nilang pakialaman.

    • Facile1

      I believe in the separation of Church and State.

      I believe the Church protects me from the abuse of power by the State and vice versa. I believe the church is the only viable power block that can take on the Philippine government. Islam is a case in point.

      If the church and the state were one and the same, I will not be able to expect justice as an individual citizen from either. And again, Islam here is a case in point.

      Refering to a fictional character only serves to undermine your arguments. Not only that, the Philippines of Jose Rizal no longer exists. More so when the new Bangsamoro is established.

  • dickenhead

    Eternal damnations to the priests n bishops who defile the name of God

    • manny

      yeah, yeah, yeah, hohohum… typical evangelical crap.  the marines are listening.

  • tra6Gpeche

    For those faithful, dispose your possession and wealth before the world ends on Dec 21, 2012. This is how you, faithful, become ready. Otherwise, you will not enter the kingdom of God per Luke chapter 18 of the Bible: “For it is easier for a Camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” However, for those non faithful, like me, I could care less if the world ends today! I am more concerned about the end of my world.

    • Facile1


      And YOUR world will not end if THE world ends?

      I read a story about St. Ignatius de Loyola that you might find amusing. I don’t know if its true.

      He was playing pool one day when he was asked what he would do if he knew he would die that very day. He replied, “Play pool.”

      I plan to make ‘paalam’ myself. I believe in thanking the Host for His generosity before leaving His house.

      • tra6Gpeche

        Kabayan, I do not know if we are connecting. To be very clear, I do not believe that the world will end on Dec 21, 2012. As you can tell, I am a non believer. However, I do know that my world is going to end. That means I am not mortal. If I knew that I would die today, I would be busy listing all the necessary papers about insurances, bank accounts and other important documents for my wife. I would remind her to burn my dead body. And that would be it!
        By the way, I do not understand this “paalam” and “thanking” the “host.” Would this mean thanking a God (host)? Would the “house” mean the world? If the answer is yes, then that would only apply to all faithful, like St Ignatius de Loyola and not to non believers. Have a great day, kabayan!

      • Facile1

        Thank you for being more explicit.

        YES, I do mean “God (host)”.

        NO, I do not mean “the world” for “His house”. I mean my human body. I did not create myself.

        And thanking the Host for His generosity before leaving His house applies to everyone — including yourself. You did not create yourself either.

        BUT it is truly none of my business if YOU THANK GOD or not.

        I didn’t mean to give offense. Like you, I was merely sharing in this forum.

        So, GOOD DAY to you too.

      • tra6Gpeche

        Good talking to you, kabayan! Take care.

  • virgoyap

    Do my pro RH or my anti RH stand made my doomsday imminent?

  • blainz

    “My ordination day [Dec. 21] can never be a day of wrath. It will always be a day of blessing. Believe me.” – Archbishop Ramon Arguelles

    Dec. 21, 1879: Josef Stalin is born.

    Dec. 21, 1946: An 8.1 intensity earthquake and subsequent tsunami in Nankaidō, Japan, kill over 1,300 people and destroy over 38,000 homes.

    Dec. 21, 1988:  a terrorist bomb exploded aboard a Pan Am Boeing 747 over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people.

    Dec. 21, 1992: A Dutch DC-10, flight Martinair MP 495, crashes at Faro Airport, killing 56 people.

    Dec. 21, 1994: Mexican volcano Popocatepetl, dormant for 47 years, erupts.

    Hay naku,  blessings daw. Refrain from making blanket statements like the one above, lest you cleave the divide of fact and faith even deeper.

    • Albert Einstien

      yet dec 22 …..continue ad infinitum… so as dec 25, jan 1 & feb 14……etc

    • ian martinez

      In all books that I have read Stalin was born 18th December, he changed it to 21st when he assumed power. In 19th century Georgia they used a different calendar too.
      “cleave the divide even deeper” – I LOVE So much your English, even if what you say is weak.
      Somewhere in the world on a given day, there will be a bit of wrath.

      I wonder at what HOUR the world will end, will it be Philippines Time Zone, CET, PST or better, Good old GMT, maybe the ancient Mayans had some knowledge of Longitude or maybe they even had a Fred Flitstone version of the digital watch, involving pyramids?

    • Facile1

      I’ liked.

      However, I believe counting one’s blessings (and I suggest ‘in private’) is a skill necessary to maintaining mental health.

  • Daniel

    Did anyone notice the “open-ended” sentence? What a typical “bishop”! This kind of pronouncement “Just be ready at all times” is still laced with human defiance, how sad!

    True Christians are always “prepared”, I repeat……..”prepared”. . . . ever since.

    Come! Lord Jesus. Amen.

    • ian martinez

      One thing i know – there is no Mr Beardy in the sky pressing buttons.

  • tekateka

     These bishops are talking BS!!… damnation sh-iit… you are just after  power and money… 

    • manny

      says who?

  • ApoNiLolo

    “Theologically, the world has been ending,” Lagdameo rued. “The world in which we are living today is far different from the world of yesteryears.”

    I think what Lagdameo meant is THEIR WORLD, not the physical world, is fast approaching “curtain call”. >: D

    • manny

      after 2000 years? okay na rin.   The church has surpassed many empires without guns. Not bad for an accomplishment huh, kahit ano pa sabihin. The world is close to its end nmn eh.  May magpalipad lang ng nuclear warheads jan.  Tapos na lahat.   

      • ApoNiLolo

        Not bad at all, if you ask me. Deserving a footnote in future annals of human history.

  • $14334231

    the world is a revolving stage…and so is history…..i will wake up on dec.22nd and thank God for letting me live another day, as everyday you open your eyes, God is giving you a chance to do good……or evil….whichever you prefer…..and this is what people of the universe does…choose their path  between good and evil….and this island  call “Pilipinas” will perish as we have more evil doers than do gooders…… i am assuming though that ONLY the evil doers will sink into the lair of the devil…..this means 95% of the priests here will vanish forever…and 100% of our politicians will disappear into thin air which would at least put them all in limbo……i say…good riddance….  

    • Facile1


      Evil doers are more VISIBLE than do-gooders only because RESTRAINT is the better part of love. And how does restraint reveal itself? Does GOD un-smite only the worthy?

      I believe there are more people of GOOD FAITH in the Philippines than ANYWHERE else I’ve been to in the world. BUT “priests with politicians” makes for a very good definition of hell. However, the only thing I know for sure about hell is that GOD can’t be found there. Again another show of restraint, I guess, on GOD’s part.

  • Pitbulldog

    Pag di nag-end of the world on Dec. 22, e di i-reset ulit.  Ano ba problema nyo lahat dyan…

    • PhoenixPoliticalParty

      Korek ka diyan!  Approve!

  • joerizal

    Yabang naman nitong si Arguelles. Ayaw daw niyang madamay? Bakit pa siya nagpari? Trabaho niya ang madamay at makiramay kahit sa mga makasalanan. Since hindi siya nagbabasa ng bibliya niya, dapat ipaalala sa kanya na si Kristo e nakikipag-inuman at nakikipag-party sa mga makasalanan kasi sila ang nangangailangan ng pagsalba. Sana pag nagunaw ang mundo e si Arguelles ang unang nakapila sa pinto…….ng impiyerno!!!

    • manny

      mababaw ka mag-analyze bro, wag mo na gmitin name ni rizal, baka multuhin ka nun.  bobo mo eh. hehehe..

      • joerizal

        Hoy Manny, patay ka kay Marquez next week. Laos ka na!!!!

  • simonibarra27

    LOGO ng CBCP isang 6 na lang kulang parang 666 na  pansin nyo ba?

    • manny

      well that’s a good number, masyado kang nerbyoso.  wagdu ka ba or bading?

  • Facile1

    Has anyone considered the reason why the Mayan stone carvers stopped at the “Dec 21″ date may be because they ran out of ROCK?

    The Mayan calendar is not exactly like the Gregorian calendar because it does not lend itself to being broken up into modular blocks of ROCK.

    The Gregorian calendar was designed from the start to be ‘perpetual’. Apparently, the Roman Catholic Church believed that as long as we don’t have a ‘hard’ date on when the world will end, let’s design the calendar so we can just keep on printing or arranging blocks of wood or whatever.

    Of course, if I’m wrong, I hope to see you on the other end.

    • ApoNiLolo

      “Has anyone considered the reason why the Mayan stone carvers stopped at the “Dec 21″ date may be because they ran out of ROCK?”

      I did, in another thread, while conversing with marionics. >: D

      • Facile1

        But you didn’t post it here.

        And who is ‘marionics’? Is he a standing member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee?

        Or do you think I’m trying to STEAL credit from YOU?

        Be careful about sticking out your tongue. You might catch flies.

      • ApoNiLolo

        You asked a question, I answered.
        Loosen up. Really, I don’t mind who first thought of it. You can have all the credit if you want to. >: D

      • Facile1

        YOU dissemble, sir, or why bring up the name of an innocent third party?

        I publish under an assumed name when credit to myself in NOT necessary.

      • ApoNiLolo

        Walang Jo! Masyado kang pusong mamon. I mentioned a “third party” because that’s where I replied to his comment. As I’ve said – “You asked a question, I answered”, nothing more, nothing less.

        If you think you were slighted, then I’m sorry but I didn’t meant it that way.

        Are we good?

      • Facile1

        It is not so much that I think of you as a liar (which I do), but that I know from past experience that you don’t read, write or think in English. So how can you tell the truth in English? And how will I know the lies?

        I doubt very much that you understood MY question. I don’t even believe you understood YOUR answer. And I remember that you also like to threaten people.

        We will never be good.

        This is a big forum. So, let’s try to avoid each other, shall we?

        FYI, Section 28(e) no longer appears in the amended RH Bill that was approved today, the 26th, for submission to the House.

        Of course, feel free to have the last word. It will be meaningless (in any language and in fact). Your Disqus e-mails are being automatically deleted UNREAD upon receipt. However, I will also endeavour to ignore your comments and replies as they appear in this forum.

      • ApoNiLolo

        LOL! So, this is not about my comment here but about our previous encounter. You’re one of those people who keep grudges when trampled in a discussion, I presume.

        Do I have to remind you that this is a public forum? Don’t comment if you’re “onion skinned” enough not to accept criticism. You should consider yourself lucky you met me instead of the “regulars” here who don’t mince words when throwing insults.

        On our next encounter, as long as I deem your comment dubious, expect me to question it. It doesn’t matter if you reply or not!

  • recoveringcatholic

    “… their world ends with eternal damnation”.  Wow!  these crowd still talk like the friars of old; still thinking their shrinking contituents as a bunch of kowtowing indios.  Why do these people continue to fear monger?  As a young boy who had gone through “retreats” with this kind of language, I fear our collective subconcious have been permanently hurt. Adults can process this easily but a 10 year old child would carry this burden throughout his life. This is child abuse of the worst kind!  I wish people would realize this whole God talk is nothing more than an incessant and pervasive conditoning process until your brain becomes unable to think rationally.  It is after all nothing more than a colossal superstitious nonesense!

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