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Lagman urges pro-RH bill solons to attend House sessions

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Albay Representative Edcel Lagman. RYAN LEAGOGO/INQUIRER.net

MANILA, Philippines — The principal author and sponsor of the controversial Reproductive Health Bill on Friday appealed to the proposed measure’s co-authors and advocates at the House of Representatives to attend session.

In a statement, Albay Representative Edcel Lagman said he sent his appeal to over a hundred co-authors and confirmed advocates and supporters of House Bill 4244.

“Together, they constitute a clear majority of the total membership of the House of Representatives of 283 Representatives.”

“May I earnestly reiterate my appeal for all of us, RH bill authors and advocates, to be present during the last 12 session days before the Christmas break and maintain a quorum up to adjournment,” Lagman said in his letter to fellow lawmakers.

He urged supporters of HB 4244, for which a substitute bill with new amendments has been crafted, to show up for session because “the House of Representatives needs your presence and support to institutionalize this enabling anchor.”

“Let us offer our constituents a small measure of sacrifice by responding to this urgent quorum call. Let us transform our enduring patience to renewed activism for the enactment now of an RH law,” he said.

Lagman pointed out in his letter the importance of passing an RH law at this time, saying that it would act as “an anchor for the government’s pro-poor, pro-women, pro-health and pro-development agenda.”

“In our 13-year crusade for the enactment of a Reproductive Health law, it is only now in the 15th Congress that we have reached the threshold of passing the RH bill,” he said.

“Let us collectively seize the moment and deliver without further delay the bill which is pregnant with fulfillment for maternal and infant health, reproductive self-determination as a human right, and sustainable human development,” added the lawmaker.

The RH Bill is just one of the key measures languishing at the plenary as lawmakers found it difficult to muster and maintain a quorum since they resumed session on November 5.

Lagman’s appeal came following a tension-filled week for pro-RH legislators.

One of them, Pangasinan Representative Kimi Cojuangco, even got into a fight with House majority leader Neptali Gonzales II whom she accused over Twitter of telling her that there was no hope of passing the RH Bill during the 15th Congress.

Lawmakers supporting the RH Bill want it passed before they going on a Christmas break on December 22.


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  • boypalaban

    “an anchor for the government’s pro-poor, pro-women, pro-health and pro-development agenda.” 

    hahahaha…biglang naging concern sa mahihirap at kababaihan

    tell it to the marines!

    para sa yo lang yan lagman at sa mga gaya mong mangungurakot..;.

  • virgoyap

    I will never never vote for an anti-RH politicians!!!

    • boypalaban

       e yung mga proRH na ayaw umatend ng session? iboboto mo ba sila?

      • napali808

        That’s a good question, bro. If the RH bill didn’t pass cause they did not attend; then they’re as bad as those antiRH bill. I will not vote for cowards. I prefer leaders not hanger-ons.

      • virgoyap

        Mga balimbing sila.

  • gilbs72

    ONLY WHEN our government can provide proper roads, bridges, hospitals, schools,  airports, seaports, MRT/LRT, trains, etc. (which benefit the majority including taxpayers) will it be proper to spend hard-earned taxpayers money to finance the sexual appetites of some who refuse to contribute even self-discipline (or a few pesos to finance their own condoms).  For now, this BILL is a great injustice to taxpayers-workers and a crime perpetuated by congressmen/senators in obedience to western governments who control the largest pharmaceuticals providing contraceptives.  (At least PCSO is voluntary donations/purchase of tickets to help the poor–while this bill will take its funding from taxes forcefully deducted from workers who don’t even enjoy the fruits of their taxes.)

    Truth is this bill perpetuates IRresponsible Parenthood by having people depend on government for contraceptives. A contraceptive is not a one-time deal to be effective. These people will have to be reliant on govt-funded condoms/pills for decades. Instead, provide the livelihood so they can purchase their own. Start with the aforementioned infrastructures, etc.

    • boypalaban

      I doubt if these senatongs and tongressmen really intend to help the poor…

      They blame the poor…
      They exploit the poor…
      They want to have an experiment using the poor…
      They want the poor to be the scapegoat for their inefficiencies…
      They actually are the ones who will benefit if this bill is passed into law….

      Palpak kasi…kaya ang sagot…condom na lang at contraceptives para sa mahihirap…basta yung makukurakot naka-secure na….

      Ubos na mahihirap…pagkaganid ng mga yan di pa mababawasan…

      alam ko na reaksiyon ng mga proRH dito…ako na magsusulat:

      damaso
      pedophile
      overpopulation
      anti-AIDS
      pajero bishops
      Vatican
      Dark Ages

      tama ako di ba?

      • jenny lim

         …tumpak!

        Ang kahirapan natin ay hindi sa dami ng tao kundi sa dumadaming kurakot na politico. 

        Kawawa ang mga mahihirap, ginawa na lamang na puhunan at tinda para lalo kumapal ang bulsa.

        Tingnan mong mga mukha nila ni Lagman, Miriam Santiago, at Pia Cayetano.  Tingnan mo ang buhay at mga ari-arian nila…makikita mo; talagang “PRO POOR” sila.  Naniwala naman ang iba kaya panay ang cheer sa kanila.

  • rightist

    What I see happening is that some congressmen want this issue to go away. They do not want to be seen as anti-RH but at the same time do not want the Church to be against them. Thus, not attending sessions during RH deliberations will enable to them to achieve these 2 objectives. Pro RH voters should vote only for those who are present during deliberations and who have unequivocally pronounced their support for the original bill.

  • Jerry

    Whether PRO or ANTI, it is the DUTY of all congressman to attend sessions. Ang KAPAL naman ng MUKHA nyo na sumasahod galing sa pera ng bayan pero hindi nyo ginagampanan trabaho nyo.  when there is a session, you are expected to be in the session hall to attend and not make excuses na may trabaho kayo sa respective constituents nyo.

    • boypalaban

      nasa malamig na lugar…nagpa-plano kung paano ulit makakapagnakaw….

  • boypalaban

    alam ko na reaksiyon ng mga proRH dito…ako na magsusulat:

    damaso
    pedophile
    overpopulation
    plagiarism
    anti-AIDS
    pajero bishops
    Vatican
    Dark Ages

    sa mga isyu lang na ‘to iikot ang mga argumento ninyo….

    pwede nyo nang simulan…pili na kayo ng isang topic diyan sa taas…

    • jenny lim

       …hahaha! Ayos bro.

    • burubudongstongstoings

      hanggang ngaun pa naman brad narrow minded ka pa rin, di ka pa rin maka pag move on. di mo pa rin makita kong ano ang isang ugat ng kahirapan at di mo rin makita ang mga bukas na darating. dapat isispin mo ang mga darating mga araw hindi lang pangkasalukuyan.

      • boypalaban

        pili ka ng topic na idi-discuss sa taas…
        diyan lang naman iikot argumento mo e…

      • burubudongstongstoings

        yong argumento mo din pabalik2x lang, wala na bang iba? at mukang mas mababaw yata yang argumento mo.

      • boypalaban

         medyo i-expound mo pa yung obispo na topic…idagdag mo na rin pati pajero at SUV…isama mo na rin yung isyu ng damaso…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFCVCFVNTKFNRY33IERRNV4REQ Hazel

      Bakit pa, e alam na alam mo na pala ang katotohanan. Sinabi mo nang lahat e.

      • boypalaban

         o nakapili ka na ba ng topic?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFCVCFVNTKFNRY33IERRNV4REQ Hazel

        A oo, nakapili ako ng tatlo.

        DAMASO – kasi this is a story inspired by TRUE accounts

        PEDOPHILE and PAJERO BISHOPS – Kasi TRUE to LIFE story.

        BwaHAHAHAHAHA… LOL!!! LMAO!!!

      • boypalaban

        pwede mo na i-expound…tapos ang pinaka conclusion…OK ang RH Bill….

    • Rigoberto_Tigdas

      Haha… trying to be sarcastic and cute, but to no avail.

      You see, lahat ng sinulat mo can be summarized and be likened into one outstanding novel.

      Noli Me Tangere

      In short, lahat ng paghihirap natin, ay dahil sa pakikialam at panghihimasok sa pulitika ng Simbahang Katoliko!

      • boypalaban

        …at walang kinalaman ang mga panginoon mong mga pulitiko gaya ni gloriarrovo, mga kabarilan ng isa mo pang panginoon na si abnoy…

      • boypalaban

         e ano naman ang Title ng kwento ninyo ni damaso celdran?

  • marionics

    game na! botohan na! ang nakakaburat dito e ayaw pa i-certify as urgent ni pnoy s. bakit kaya?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Anti-RH are very narrow-minded. They can only see the present, not the future. Even how much effort the government will pour to alleviate poverty, if the root causes are not being attended to, then the situation will just become a never-ending vicious cycle.

    PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!

    • boypalaban

      pili ka na ng topic na isinulat ko bandang baba…
      diyan lang pupuntahan ng mga argumento mo…wala nang iba…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Kulang pa yun, dagdag mo, anti-RH is:

        anti-women
        bigot
        hypocrite
        wolf in sheep’s clothing
        narrow-minded
        pro-CGMA/Corona
        anti-progress
        super conservative
        obsolete mentality
        200 years behind the times
        anti-Obama/PNoy
        taliban mentality
        self-centred
        crab mentality
        pro-China
        mayabang/mahangin
        etc., etc.

      • boypalaban

        di ba ang panginoon mo na si brendamage at lagman ang tagapagtanggol ni gloriaswang at renaTong Corokot?

        dami mong issue…yung iba idea mo na lang…

        pro-China? di ba yan ang style ng China, ang pakontiin ang dami ng bagong ipinapanganak?

        sali-saliwa mga idea at argumento mo…
        pasensiya na di ako nacha-challenge…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M6UL2UG4OGTMCLSYGB5MVJ7USE InSearchOfTruth

    congress will never vote on this bill so close to the election period.  they would rather play it safe.  if they voted yes, they will earn the ire of the antis, but if they vote no, they would earn the ire of the pros.  its a dam* if you do and dam* if you dont situation for them. 

    why not put this bill into a plebiscite vote?  let the people decide so that once and for all we can move on and move forward.  after all, we are a democracy, so let us put that democracy into practice, let the voce of the majority be heard.

  • jenny lim

     Ang kahirapan natin ay hindi sa dami ng tao kundi sa dumadaming kurakot na politico.

    Ang nakapagtataka, may kurakot bang pulitiko na mahirap [senators and congressmen].

    Kawawa ang mga mahihirap, ginawa na lamang na puhunan at tinda para lalo kumapal ang bulsa.

    Tingnan mong mga mukha nila ni Lagman, Miriam Santiago, at Pia
    Cayetano.  Tingnan mo ang buhay at mga ari-arian nila…makikita mo;
    talagang “PRO POOR” sila.  Naniwala naman ang iba kaya panay ang cheer
    sa kanila.

    • burubudongstongstoings

      bakit ang mga anti RH ba ay malilinis? sa tingin ko ay mas malinis pa ang mga Pro RH eh. di kagaya sau at mga alipores ng anti RH ay mga narrow minded, nauuto sa sabi ng mga obispo. kahit walang kurakot dito sa pilipinas eh sa dami ng nangangailangan di pa rin matutugunan ang lahat ng pangangailangan nila. maawa ka sa mga street children at ung may mga 6 na anak at mga walang pinag aralan.

      • boypalaban

        ikaw nauuto ng baliw…brendamage…

        tama ako di ba…napunta na naman sa obispo ang isyu…

        pili ka pa ng topic na isinulat ko sa bandang baba…

      • burubudongstongstoings

        hindi ako nauto brad kundi nakikita ko lang na yang Bill na yan ay isang solusyon sa Pinas, imulat mo lang iyong mga mata makikita mo. di kagaya sayo na imbis mag analyse ng personal eh emotion ang pina iiral at mga sabi ng obispo. Be rational brad dahil ang bill ay hindi para sakin o para sau para yan sa mga nangangailangan.

      • boypalaban

         pasensiya na di ako katoliko at di ko sinusunod ang sabi ng mga obispo…
        nag -iisip lang ako nang tama…at di ako nagpapa-uto sa mga gahamang pulitiko…
        kung ikaw nabiktima ka ng mga ganid na pulitiko…wag mo nang idamay ang mga mahihirap na di priority yang contraceptives mo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQRDASE2HXIZ6R4QQ7LETHJTS4 Arvin

        Ang mahirap ay lalong naghihirap dahil sa dami ng mga anak…..kung may libring contaceptive hindi dadami dahil ang mahirap walang ibang outlet sa sarili na libri at walang bayad kundi magparami…simple diba? 

      • boypalaban

         kapag libre ba contraceptive siguradong gagamit sila niyan? isa ba yan sa mga hayok na hayok na silang magkaroon?

        yarian lang ba nang yarian ang mahihirap kaya lalong naghihirap?

        kumusta naman ang mga panginoon mong pulitiko…sobrang nakakaawa ba sila kasi lahat na ginawa nila at mahirap pa rin ang mga tao?

        simpleng simple nga…walang kasalanan ang mga pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno kasi ang dahilan ng lahat ng kahirapan ay mga mahihirap na sobrang hihilig magyarian…

        galing ng argumento mo…thanks…natuto ako…

      • edwin525

        I believe the most important part of RH Bill is its educating the people (the free contraceptives is just secondary). I agree with you that many uneducated Filipinos don’t believe in using contraceptives, they think its more fun to have nothing. Obviously these type of people need education.

      • boypalaban

        13.7billion para sa education?
        wala bang ganyan sa mga schools?
        di ba tinuturo yan ng mga doktor at nurse…pati na ng mga nasa health center?
        wala bang itinuturo na maging responsable ang mga tao lalo na kung hindi naman kaya?
        mga lolo at lola ba dati kasama na ang mga magulang natin nangailangan ng ganyang Bill para mabigyan tayo ng maayos na buhay?
        masyado na bang kumplikado ang pakiki-pag-sex ngayon?

      • edwin525

        Not enough budget, and that’s perfect reason we need family planning. You know we have problems school rooms, overcrowding, lack of teachers etc. Obviously we’re having more and more children to educate than we can afford — perhaps including you.

      • boypalaban

        in fairness kahit proRH ka…may sense ka namang kausap..di gaya ng iba dito na puro damaso, pedophile,etc lang ang alam…

        may meeting lang ako…di muna ako makakasagot…

        keep posting pre…
         

      • edwin525

        Thanks! You too, I appreciate your points. Its just when i look at the bottom line, I believe RH Bill can help.. assuming it will be implemented properly. Cheers!

      • boypalaban

         ” maawa ka sa mga street children at ung may mga 6 na anak at mga walang pinag aralan.”

        awang awa ka na ba kaya imbes na trabaho o basic needs mas gusto mo pa silang bigyan ng condom at pills?

      • burubudongstongstoings

        sabi ko na nga ba narrow minded ka pa rin di mo talaga maintindihan masyado kang bookish, di makapag analyse…. hahaha.

      • boypalaban

        isa lang ang sagot:

        ano ang mas kailangan ng streetchildren:

        Contraceptives o pagkain?

        ano ang mas dapat ibigay sa kanila?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQRDASE2HXIZ6R4QQ7LETHJTS4 Arvin

        Both………..contraceptive para hindi dumami at pagkain gaya ng Pantawid gutom program palagulin lang para mag kasya…..simple lang diba?

      • boypalaban

        “Both………..contraceptive para hindi dumami at pagkain gaya ng Pantawid gutom program palagulin lang para mag kasya…..simple lang diba?”

        ok yung pagkain…kaso…
        bibigyan mo ng contraceptives mga streetchildren?
        ayos…galing!
        saludo talaga ako sa mga proRH…condom at pills, injections, etc para sa mga streetchildren…simpleng simple….
        yan ang ibigay mo sa mga umaakyat sa jeep o sa mga kumakatok sa sasakyan…at sa mga nakahandusay at malapit nang mamatay sa gutom na bata…

      • edwin525

        So why do you think we have street children? I agree with the “job and food argument” but that is if we are in the 1960s. I hope you understand that the poverty rate in the Philippines is staggering at 30% and multiplies far quicker than our economy. Even if we completely eradicate corruption, take in more foreign investments and assume that our economy will grow faster than China it will take many years and maybe decades to significantly reduce poverty rate. So tell me, why do you think we have street children?

      • boypalaban

        “So why do you think we have street children? ”

        itanong mo sa mga magulang niyan na walang trabaho kasi kinurakot na ng mga pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno ang pondo para sana sa kabuhayan edukasyon,gamot,pagkain,etc…..o kaya biktima sila ng gyera sa lugar nila …o kaya walang oportunidad sa probinsya nila…ayaw kasi ni meyor ipamahagi ng pondo galing sa tax namin.

      • edwin525

        I don’t believe you. There are many Filipinos living in the same corrupt society as you do but were able to improve their lives. Even in the provinces. While corruption is a problem, it  is a fact that people having more children than they can afford is one big problem. Let me give you example — an average factory job in Laguna can provide good care for a family size of 3 (meaning one child). So you can get a job or put up your own business, but if you don’t plan your expenses then you’re still doomed.

      • boypalaban

         sagot sa taas

      • boypalaban

         “There are many Filipinos living in the same corrupt society as you do but were able to improve their lives.”

        yun naman pala e..
        bakit kailangan kontrolin ang populasyon?
        ikaw kumokontra sa sinasabi mo…

      • edwin525

        Hindi ka marunong mag-analyze. Ang point is they were able to improve their lives because they worked hard and at the same time had smaller families to feed. Ahhhh… para kang si Manny Pacquiao walang punto sa debate.

      • popeyee

        Ano nga ba ang dahilan kung bakit ang daming di mag karoon ng trabaho? Kasi hindi balance ang dami ng tao sa dami ng oportunidad, as simple as that..walang piinagkaiba sa law on supply & demand…

      • boypalaban

         isa ka ngang dakilang disipulo ng mga magnanakaw na pulitiko…

    • boypalaban

       para sa ikaaalam ng mga proRH at antiRH…yang si epal angas dynasty cayetano lang ang bukod tanging nag-aangas na triathlete…at ginamit pa ang pagiging triathlete niya sa usaping RH Bill…pinagtatawanan na yan ng mga tunay na triathlete…

    • artz555

      Again, people who are in favor of passing an RH bill in Congress which is actually the majority based on past surveys, should tell there representatives in Congress, Representatives and Senators ( by phone, e-mail, text, etc. ) to pass the RH bill ASAP, and tell their friends to do the same.

       Then the people should warn these representatives or Senators,so that if the people finds out that these representatives are not doing the job the voters wants them to do in Congress, then the people should replace them accordingly in the next election, with people that will represent them well in the future.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    ITALY and ISRAEL, the Original christians, ave Universal RH for the people.
    Wag na tayong TRYING HARD na catholics.

    Daming GUTOM sa kalsada.

    • boypalaban

      ang dapat bang ibigay sa mga gutom ay CONTRACEPTIVES?

      • burubudongstongstoings

        hahay… di mo talaga maintindihan. isip2x ka pa ng malalim baka masagot mo tanong mo. di mo ma catch up bakit ganon ang argument para sa mga mahihirap.

      • popeyee

        What an idiotic question…

      • boypalaban

        ang idiot ay yung di makasagot sa simpleng tanong..gaya mo..

      • catherine sien

        popeyee, sagutin po ninyo ang napakagandang tanong ni boy palaban. simple lang po ang tanong niya.  kung hindi po ninyo masasagot e di siguro kayo po ang walang alam? 

      • popeyee

        isa ka ring idiot. Ang contraceptives ay para ma-control ang pag dami ng tao, hindi para ipakain sa mga nagugutom. Yan ang sagot… 

    • boypalaban

      Italy…original Christians?
      saang history book mo nalaman yan?
      o baka kay lagman, cayetano o kay brendamage mo natutunan yan…
      o baka naman epekto na yan ng condom overdose…

      • marionics

        Christianity spread initially from Jerusalem throughout the Near East, into places such as Syria, Assyria, Mesopotamia, Phoenicia, Asia Minor, Jordan and Egypt. In the 4th century it was successively adopted as the state religion by Armenia in 301, Georgia in 319, the Aksumite Empire in 325, and the Roman Empire in 380. It became common to all of Europe in the Middle Ages and expanded throughout the world during Europe’s Age of Exploration from the Renaissance onwards.

      • boypalaban

        thanks kaibigan for stating the fact….malinaw hindi kasama ang Italy sa original Christians…meron siguro mangilan ngilan lang…at nababawasan pa kasi nga pinapakain sa leon,tigre,etc…

        mismong si Constantine kahit ginawang state religion ang Christian faith ay hindi rin naman nagpabinyag…pero nagpabinyag nung malapit nang mamatay….

      • marionics

        ang punto lang siguro ng kaibigang hein mo ay nasa italy kasi ang vatican at si constantine ang nag establish kasi ng christianity as official religion ng roman empire nuon kaya akala niya e yun ang orig o una

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SA SINGAPORE ISA RICH COUNTRY IN ASIA AY MAY UNIVERSIAL R.H BILL KUNG NASAAN ANG LIBO LIBONG PILIPINO MEDICAL SCIENCE IS A REAL CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN TERRORIST GO BACK TO VATICAN”’EVIL”

      • boypalaban

        DAMASO TSUPAERO WAG KA NA MAG-ENGLISH, LALONG DI KA MAINTINDIHAN…TSUMUPA KA NA LANG…MAS MAGALING KA PA PAGDATING DOON…

  • JuanTamadachi

    Pass it or dump it (RH Bill);  and let’s get on with other equally important matters..

  • boypalaban

    twisted utak niyan…na-overdose ng pills…ginagawa yatang pansahog sa ulam…kaya lumobo nang husto…
    …kunwari lang na pro-poor Filipino women yan…mas puntirya niyan yung makukurakot…wala nang iba….

    • Facile1

      For the sake of the readers of this blog who did not get the opportunity to read my initial comment because it was flagged for review and still is no tavailable for examination at this writing, here is the full text of the comment ‘boypalaban’ was responding to:

      “Lagman pointed out in his letter the importance of passing an RH law at this time, saying that it would act as ‘an anchor for the government’s pro-poor, pro-women, pro-health and pro-development agenda.'”

      What can be more twisted?

      EXPOSING perfectly healthy human bodies to the UNNECESSARY RISK OF DRUGS and calling it “pro-health”?

      Exposing only perfectly healthy FEMALE human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-women”?

      Exposing only POOR FILIPINO WOMEN’s perfectly healthy female human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-poor”?

      And then having the Filipino taxpayer shoulder the cost of contraceptives when FREE, safer and healthier ALTERNATIVES to Family Planning EXIST and calling it “pro-development”?

      Talk about TWISTED!

      PSMy initial post was flagged. I must have hit a nerve. So I am reposting this again.4:07 PM 11/23/2012

      So, how does one counter abusive language?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQRDASE2HXIZ6R4QQ7LETHJTS4 Arvin

    Walang mabigat na dahilan na ang contraceptive ay masama sa kalusugan…..ang problema sa pinas ay ang ating populasyon…….kung tumingin kalang sa mga public schools, sa labas, sa kalye at lahat at compare it way back in 1980’s you can see the difference. 
    ang problema sa crime, kulang ang trabaho or walang trabaho, squatter, health, road widening at lack of schools ay hindi dahil lang sa corruption or red tape but mainly also with the over population  sa ating bansa….hindi matugunan ang lahat na ito if masyadong marami ang ating popolasyon…..if you just compared it to to our neighboring asean countries malaysia ay about 30,million lang..infact malaki ang kanilang land area pero binuti nilang mi manage……at iba pang bansa in europe …..

    Dapat mag control at palaguin ang edukasyon………

    • boypalaban

      saan na ba napunta ang mga pondo para sa walang trabaho, squatter, health, road widening at lack of schools?

      halos buong pilipinas napuntahan ko na…nagsisiksikan lang sa Maynila..may ilang parte sa Cebu at Davao…pero sa ibang siyudad parang isang Cubao lang…

      at bakit nagsisiksikan sa Maynila…dahil kinurakot na ni gov, ni tongressman, ni mayor, ni kapitan, ni kagawad, ni tanod, ni SK…ang pondo sana para sa kanila para magkaroon ng oportunidad…at guminhawa naman ang buhay…

      at kapag nagsisiksikan na sa Maynila dahil walng oportunidad dahil nga kinurakot na….sa kanila naman isisisi ngayon ng mga ulupong na pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno na sobrang lilibog daw kasi kaya lalong dumadami…at kailangan nang kontrolin…pero walang balak kontrolin ang mga sinumpang mga pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno na kontrolin ang pagkagahaman nila…

    • Facile1

      For the sake of the readers of this blog who did not get the opportunity to read my initial comment because it was flagged for review and still is not available for examination as of this writing, here is the full text of the comment ‘Arvin’ was responding to:

      “Lagman pointed out in his letter the importance of passing an RH law at this time, saying that it would act as ‘an anchor for the government’s pro-poor, pro-women, pro-health and pro-development agenda.'”

      What can be more twisted?

      EXPOSING perfectly healthy human bodies to the UNNECESSARY RISK OF DRUGS and calling it “pro-health”?

      Exposing only perfectly healthy FEMALE human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-women”?

      Exposing only POOR FILIPINO WOMEN’s perfectly healthy female human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-poor”?

      And then having the Filipino taxpayer shoulder the cost of contraceptives when FREE, safer and healthier ALTERNATIVES to Family Planning EXIST and calling it “pro-development”?

      Talk about TWISTED!

      PSMy initial post was flagged. I must have hit a nerve. So I am reposting this again.4:07 PM 11/23/2012

      So, Arvin, where in my comment can it be inferred that I am against Family Planning, the use of contraceptives for medicinal purposes or the use of taxpayers money to encourage GDP.

      But I am implacably against using taxpayers money to fund the indiscriminate distribution of contraceptives to perfectly HEALTHY FEMALE HUMAN BODIES (even if poor.)

      (And why is a small unnecessary risk more acceptable than a big unnecessary risk to a perfectly HEALTHY body? What kind of rationale is that?

  • mangtom

    Facile1, talk about twisted. Read your post. That is what is twisted-you moron.

    Pass the RH Bill ASAP.

    • boypalaban

      naka 2 likes ka na…isa ako sa nag like…
      gusto ko kasi i-explain mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng “twisted-you”

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    Nakalimutan ni Lagman ang pinakadahilan na, PRO PROSTITUTION, at ni Alvin ang KURAPSYON…..

  • kilabot

    the reason congs allegedly support the rh bill is the threat to withhold pork. that’s why they are not as passionate in attending sessions on the rhbill. most of them know it’s not about poverty alleviation but about women and lgbt exploitation. otherwise, if they really have the numbers they would have shove it in the noykapon way.

    if it’s about poverty alleviation, which is better?
     1) give free artificial birth control contraceptives (aka 17B rh bill) to control population growth;
     2) use of natural birth control techniques (aka hit-n-run) to control population growth;
     3) encourage people to practice a life of celibacy (aka monsignor-fast) to control population growth;
     4) practice lgbt lifestyle (aka anal_izing) and have zero population growth;
     5) perpetual implementation of the cct (aka eternal-beggar) program;
     6) train the poor acquire skills and livelihood (aka sow-n-reap) using rh + cct budget (>17B total);

    the rh bill is like noykapon, healthy with words but sick.

    No to rh bill.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS SAY MORE STREET CHILDREN ISNATCHER IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • NYPinoy

    Neptali Gonzales… USELESS.

    • edwin525

      I totally agree with you. He said it is more important for lawmakers to stay in  their district and help people in their problems than attending debates in congress. What an idiot.

      • boypalaban

        kung debate na walang saysay, mas ok pa nga na tumulong na lang sila sa distrito nila…

      • edwin525

        Then they should have run as Mayor or Governor!! If they think the congress doesn’t work then its their job to make it work. It’s their job create meaningful bills and debates. Ano sa tingin mo?

      • boypalaban

         create meaningful bills/laws…pero di na kasama ang mag-create ng debates…nasa proseso yan kung aabot pa doon…marami diyan tulog lang kahit may mga debate….o kaya nagte-text…

        tsaka di na pwede muna sila ang mayor o governor…asawa na kasi nila ang nakapuwesto….balik na lang sila ulit doon pag pwede na ulit…makapanloko…mangurakot….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP BISHOPS SAY MORE STREET CHILDREN ISNATCHER IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

      • boypalaban

         EDGARDOPHILE…MUSTA MGA STREETCHILDREN NA BINANATAN MO?

  • kapatad

    gumamit sila ng contraceptives kung gusto nila, wag na lang pondohan ng gobyerno ang pagbili ng condom, IUD at iba pa. Gamitin ang pera ipopondo sa mga schools at hospital.

    • popeyee

      SA DAMI NGA NG TAo paano pa mapopondohan ang school at hospital at ibang basic services..

      • boypalaban

         tanong mo sa mga panginoon mong magnanakaw kung saan nila dinadala ang mga tax na binabayad namin..

      • popeyee

        nagbabayad ka nga ba ng buwis? sa tono ng mga sagot mo baka pati meralco illegal ang connection mo..kahit sino pa ang naging pangulo kung hindi maisasaayos ang pag dami ng tao di pa rin tayo uunlad..

      • boypalaban

         brutus, yung sweldo mo o kinikita mo malamang tax ko lang yan…
        wag mo gamitin tax ko sa pagkontrol ng kalibugan mo…

      • popeyee

        Istas, wag mo ring gamitin ang tax ko sa pag bibigay ng relocation expenses sa mga squatter, CCT dole out, LRT subsidy. etc., etc…

      • tukmoldinako

        dun nga sa pondo nagkakalokohan eh, umpisa lang yan pakitang tao, sa susunod na mga taon saan pa kaya mapupunta ang pondo, alam mo naman dito satin nawawala ang mga pondo. sabihin na natin, yun bang mga eskwelahan na yan ay walang mga pondo, meron , pero nagamit ba sa maintenance ng mga eskwelahan, hindi, naubos sa representation at travels kaya mga skwelahan nangabulok at gobyerno kailangan uling magproduce ng pera. Ganyan din ang sinasabi nilang RH bill kaya interesado ang iba na maipasa na kasi napagisipan na nila kung papano manipulahin ang pera, maniwala ka sa umpisa lang yan

        ano ba ang problema natin, dumadaming populasyo , mga kabataan ay maagang nagsisibuntis. Nasa edukasyon yan, isama nila sa eskwelahan ang topic na example “Good family living” at turuan nila ang mga bata ano ang tama, kasama na ang tamang gabay ng magulang eh mapupunta ang mga bata sa magandang kinabukasan.  Ngayon punta tayo sa pasadong RH Bill, open ang sex , mga bata pa , pati kapatid mo magpapahingi sayo ng condom o ano mang contra ceptives dyan dahil nahihiya syang humingi sa center pero alam mong mong alam nila na wala nang pagbabawal ang pakikipag sex kahit bata pa sila kasi sasagutin ka me RH bill naman , ano kaya ang damdamin mo, diba  masasaktan ka.

        RH bill ay mabibigyan ng pahintulot ang mga bata na makipag sex  sa murang edad. he he he. ang kailangan natin tamang gabay ng magulang.  Ngayon baliktadin natin, bat ba gigil na gigil yang mga yan na ipasa ito, tanggalin mo yung pondo dyan, walng lawmaker na maguusad nyan.

        naku mga nagsasalita na yan, may pangyayari panga, laking kalamidad sa Bicol nuon, bagyo malakas at maraming nasalanta, yung gobyerno pinondohan ng 2bilyon para itulong sa mga nasalanta, nakalathala pa ito sa dyaryo, ngayon nung namasyal yung kapitbahay kong taga roon , tinanong ko sya, sabi nya nagiba rin ang bahay nya pero ni pirasong pako walang nakarating sa kanila, gan yan din yan pag may pondo mabilis magsalita yang mga yan, lol

      • boypalaban

        mamamahagi sila ng condom sa mga evacuation centers…at nandoon mga pagmumukha nila sa mismong condom….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP ALQEDA BISHOPS  SAY ” REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES” TALIBAN GROUP GO BACK TO VATICAN TERRORIST”

  • Diepor

    Its not unnecessary when used for family planning. Its not risking only poor womens life, richer people have used contraceptives for a long time but they can afford to pay. Its only low educated religious people that has a problem with this right that is given to most women in the world. Educate yourself, maybe its not to late.

  • popeyee

    Bakit di na lang pagbotohan ang RH bill na yan ng kung sino man ang present during the session or deliberation. Yong mga absent ay walang karapatan mag-question kung bakit naipasa yong batas kahit na wala sila..

    • boypalaban

      sa puntong yan…agree ako sa yo…
      pero mga proRH daw ang mga absent e…hahahahaha
      sabi sa yo mas uunahin pa nila ang pansariling interes bago pa ang interes ng mahihirap at kababaihan…

      • tukmoldinako

        mahihina kasi ang kukoteng intindihin ni lagman, ehe langgam, ayaw ngan magsi attend kasi, ayaw nilang maipasa kaya umaabsent, etong si lagman gusto kasi may pondo, he he he

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS IS ALQEDA GROUP REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES” TERRORIST’

  • Facile1

    “Lagman pointed out in his letter the importance of passing an RH law at this time, saying that it would act as ‘an anchor for the government’s pro-poor, pro-women, pro-health and pro-development agenda.'”

    What can be more twisted?

    EXPOSING perfectly healthy human bodies to the UNNECESSARY RISK OF DRUGS and calling it “pro-health”?

    Exposing only perfectly healthy FEMALE human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-women”?

    Exposing only POOR FILIPINO WOMEN’s perfectly healthy female human bodies to the unnecessary risk of contraceptives and calling it “pro-poor”?

    And then having the Filipino taxpayer shoulder the cost of contraceptives when FREE, safer and healthier ALTERNATIVES to Family Planning EXIST and calling it “pro-development”?

    Talk about TWISTED!

    PS
    My initial post was flagged. I must have hit a nerve. So I am reposting this again.
    4:07 PM 11/23/2012

    • boypalaban

      dapat ang pina-flag yung mga komento ni edgardophile mendoza na walang saysay, walang basehan…wala sa ayos…

      • Facile1

        I do not wish to encourage abusive language, even when it is not directed to me. So, this is the last response you can expect from me. And, yes, I am flagging you as inappropriate.

    • boypalaban

      bawasan ang pondo niyan…wala nang magiging interesado diyan….

      di na rin uubra mga pa-poor image ni epal angas dynasty cayetano…halata namang plastic…
      di na rin uubra mga patutsada ni brenda…mas type niya ipagtanggol mga magnanakaw…yan ba ang pro-poor?
      di na rin uubra mga banat ni lagman…pro-poor? hahahahaha kaya pala dakilang tagapagtanggol ng mga magnanakaw…

      pera pera lang usapan diyan…ginamit pa talaga ang issue ng kababaihan at mga mahihirap…SABLAY!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’ ALQEDA GROUP CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN TERRORIST”’ GO BACK TO VATICAN TERRORIST

      • Facile1

        Please stay on topic.

    • artz555

      Contraceptives and birth control devices have been used all over the world for a very long time now, especially in developed countries from the US, Europe, to Japan which have strict laws on quality and safety of products. These countries have successful RH programs using only safe products for their citizens. Can you call their programs twisted ?

      PH only has to follow some of these countries on what safe products to use in the PH setting. With some years of experience of PH on their own  family planning program since the 1980’s, their familiarity with these products, plus the knowledge they can get from the other countries of the world, should be  more than sufficient for PH to implement a safe and effective RH program.

      A  sensible new RH bill is needed because the current PH program is somehow ineffective, maybe because of mismanagement, corruption, lack of force of the law, and/or the meddling of various sectors including the Church and/or foreign interests.

       This bill is needed to lessen the burden of the government on increasing costly programs for the poor, but most especially for the poor who are forced to raise big families ( which they can’t afford to raise ) simply because they are helpless, without  the help of the government and an effective RH program.

      This RH program will ultimately raise the living standards of all Filipinos in the very near future because with a smaller, manageable population, their per capita GDP share will become larger and larger than it is today, thereby catching up with the more progressive countries in Asia and the world.

      Pass the RH bill now.

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:
        “Contraceptives and birth control devices have been used all over the world for along time now, especially in developed countries from US, Europe, to Japan which have strict laws on safety and environment. These countries have successful RH programs using only safe products for their citizens. Can you call their programs twisted ?”

        My reply to paragraph #1:
        Where in my comment can it be inferred that I object to ALL birth control devices? I only object to oral contraceptives. The length of use by developed countries of oral contraceptives does not mean these drugs don’t carry risks.  All drugs carry risks. So let me repeat, any government program that systematically exposes a perfectly healthy human body to UNNECESSARY risk is “twisted.”
        It is one thing for an individual consumer to choose to expose his own healthy body to drugs. It is quite another thing for governments to have programs where the HEALTHY bodies of a given minority of its population are being exposed SYSTEMATICALLY to the unnecessary risks (however small) of these drugs.
        So you think the US, Europe and Japan are superior to the Philppines for having these programs “for along time now”? I think the Philippines has proven itself superior by resisting the twisted logic of these so-called developed countries “for along time now.”

      • artz555

        My reply to Facile 1 is ;

        Without an effective RH program in PH for years to come… ,  in a decade or two…, let’s come back and discuss this again in this forum and see whose points are on the right side.

        Thank you.

        And pass the RH bill now.

      • Facile1

        What exactly will prove EITHER of us right ten years from now?

        I’m not so venal as to bet the lives of poor Filipino women on the FACT that oral contraceptives carry risks — including cancer. One woman will be one FILIPINA too many!

        But what should we call your position (that it’s worth the sacrifice of a poor Filipina’s life to improve the GDP of the country)?

        KILL this vampire RH bill now before it starts killing women!

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:
        “PH has only has to follow some of these countries on what safe products to use in the PH setting. With some years of experience of PH on their own  family planning program since the 1980’s, their familiarity with these products, plus the knowledge they can get from the other countries of the world, these would be  more than sufficient for PH to implement a safe and effective RH program.”

        My reply to paragraph #2:
        However well managed the risk is IS NOT MATERIAL when the risk IS UNNECESSARY. There are safer and healthier alternatives to Family Planning that will NOT expose the Filipino female human body to UNNECESSARY risks.

      • artz555

        If you have alternative means or methods, by all means recommend them in this forum, if not recommend them directly to the representatives of Congress.

        By the way, you’re only worried about oral contraceptives. There are other methods like birth control devices, PH can use for an effective RH program. You cannot lump just the contraceptives that encompasses most of the RH bill, as the ‘ the Vampire ‘. If doctors believe that oral contraceptives are not appropriate for one woman, they can use the other methods.

      • Facile1

        The “alternative means or methods” are not unknown to anyone — including yourself and representatives of Congress. And a LAW is not required when the alternative is FREE.

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:
        “A  sensible new RH bill is needed because the current PH program is somehow ineffective because of mismanagement, corruption, lack of force of the law, and/or the meddling of various sectors including the Church and/or foreign interests.”

        My reply to paragraph #3:
        Exactly WHAT will the new RH Bill do differently from “the current PH program (that) is somehow ineffective” — except perhaps throw more Filipino taxpayer money at the problem?  Will government corruption lessen with more money? Will more money buy off the Church? Will more money compel more powerful foreign interests to respect Philippine laws and sovereignty?

      • artz555

        Facile 1 , the PH government, in an independent country, should be responsible enough  to sort out it’s problems, fund and implement it’s programs without worrying about the interference of other sectors, internal or external.

      • Facile1

        I disagree. The PH government is accountable to the Philippine electorate (which include Female Catholic Filipino Taxpayers like me.)

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:
        “This bill is needed to lessen the burden of the government on increasing costly programs for the poor, but most especially for the poor who are forced to raise big families ( which they can’t afford to raise ) simply because they are helpless without  the help of the government and an effective RH program.”

        My reply to paragraph #4:
        The “increasing costly programs for the poor” is only a burden to corrupt governments that believe in taxing their citizenry and enriching themselves. Food, healthcare and education for the poor quickly become a burden when public servants must have their cut of the tax revenues.
        Someone will profit from the passage of the RH Bill. But let us not pretend it will be the Filipino woman.

      • artz555

        Facile 1, the PH government, after the challenges of the country’s past history, must now be mature enough to implement it’s program effectively with minimal waste and without graft and corruption. That’s all we can hope.

      • Facile1

        What I hope for is that Congress will KILL this VAMPIRE RH BILL before the first Filipina woman dies.

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:
        “This RH program will ultimately raise the living standards of all Filipinos in the very near future because with a smaller, manageable population, their per capita GDP share will become larger and larger than it is today, thereby catching up with the more progressive countries in Asia and the world.”

        My reply to paragraph #5:
        Let me repeat, someone will profit from the passage of the RH Bill. But let us not pretend it will be the Filipino woman.

        Kill this vampire of a bill NOW before it kills Filipino women.

      • artz555

        Facile 1 , whenever government funds are used by any government for any project, and then businesses, ( whether owned by men or women ), are invited to bid or implement these projects, everybody knows that businesses are there to make a profit, or they shouldn’t be in business at all. 

        As to my other points, let the people decide whether to accept those ideas or not. This is a free forum. Nobody is forcing ideas ( right or wrong ) into anybody’s throats. If you agree with those ideas, fine ; and if you don’t agree, that’s fine too.

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:”Nobody is forcing ideas ( right or wrong ) into anybody’s throats.”

        Lagman and your advocacy for the passage of the RH Bill into LAW is forcing oral contraceptives down the throats of poor Filipina women and forcing a deeply twisted idea down my throat.

        Should the RH BILL pass, it will carry the FULL FORCE of the LAW and then all argument in whatever forum will not only be moot but also muted under Section 28(e) ( “Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act” will be punishable by fine and imprisonment.)

        This is NOT a casual discussion of an innocuous issue. Once this RH Bill becomes LAW, women will die, taxpayers will pay, and Catholic Filipinos will see their freedoms under the Philippine Bill of Rights that much more diminished (not only their freedom of Religion, but also their freedom of Speech.)

        Be glib if you wish. But I will get only one pass at this.

      • Facile1

        artz555 wrote, in response to Facile1:” Everybody knows that businesses are there to make a profit, or they should not be in business at all.”

        Nobody has a right to profit at the expense of someone else’s life.

        Because the indiscriminate and free distribution of oral contraceptives is part of a government program, Big Pharma will only see BIG PROFITS and NO LIABILITY. They did not distribute the oral contraceptives indiscriminately. The Philippine government did. Big Pharma’s liability transfers to the Philippine government. How many poor, Filipino women do you think will be able to sue the Philippine government?

        So, let me repeat. Someone will profit from the RH Bill. Let’s not pretend it will be the Filipino woman.

      • artz555

        Mr. or Miss Facile 1, as  far I know, based on the revised HR bill, there is no ‘ indiscriminate’  distribution of RH paraphernalia. The government will specifically target the poorest of the poor or other criteria which will determine who really  needs the  service badly.

        Also, all liabilities fall on who ever wins the bidding for the supply RH paraphernalia, ( local or foreign sources ) . All biddings in governments require  liability insurance bonds or funds, whether from local or foreign big pharma,,to cover future liabilities or damage claims by beneficiaries.or other parties.

        Examples are affected consumers who are paid proper compensations for damages or harm done on them by drugs or consumer products.

        Look, I don’t want to go into details or future theoretical probabilities which may, or may not happen. This is my last reply because this discussion will never end.

        All I can say also is, let’s see what will happen if no effective RH is implemented in PH soon, so that in  a decade or two, we’ll find out who’s right or wrong, or if the quality of life of every.Filipino will improve for the better, or deteriorate ; with or without an effective RH bill

      • Facile1

        If you are a man, you have nothing to lose.

        If you are woman, you will be treated as if “in need of medication” simply because your perfectly healthy body functions as it was designed to do — carry a pregnancy to term.

        By “indiscriminate distribution”, I mean the poorest of the poor will be given oral contraceptives regardless of their state of health. The “poorest (women) of the poor” will be given oral contraceptives NOT because they are sick, but to prevent pregnancy (which is a healthy function of their bodies by definition.) The free distribution of oral contraceptives is indiscriminate with regard to the health of the “poorest (women) of the poor” and discriminatory with regard to their social class.

        The “liability” you define will not cover individual Filipinas who were given oral contraceptives by a government program IN SPITE of known risk.

        And I agree. The discussion must end and this is as good a place as any.

        It is NOT important to me to be right in this matter. What matters to me is that HEALTHY Filipina women (albeit the ‘poorest of the poor’) are not exposed to the UNNECESSARY risks (however small) of oral contraceptives. This is the ONE argument the RH Bill CANNOT make because the risks are known and well-documented.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY’ REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BAKIT SA SINGAPORE MAY UNIVERSIAL R.H BILL ISA SA RICH COUNTRY IN THE WORLD BAKIT SA PILIPINAS DI PUWEDE ANG UNIVERSIAL R.H BILL KAYA DAMING PILIPINO NAG LILINIS NG ENEDORO SA SINGAPORE METRO MANILA DAMI STREET CHILDREN ISNATCHER AT NAG KAKAL NG BASURA UNSAFE ANG METRO MANILA CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN STOP TERRORISIM IN THE PILIPINO NATION GO BACK TO VATICAN TERRORIST GROUP’ALQEDA”’

    • boypalaban

      MUSTA NA ANG BUNGANGA MO? MAHAPDI BA?
      ILANG DAMASO NA NAMAN ANG TSINUPA MO KAGABI?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    PH still under the Shackles of the Old DAMASO.

    • boypalaban

       steven zahl is under the duster of damaso celdran…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PRO LIFE SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • mangtom

    boypalabanCollapsenaka 2 likes ka na…isa ako sa nag like…
    gusto ko kasi i-explain mo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng “twisted-you”Ang sagut: I won’t waste my time to explain “twisted” to you, since your IQ is too low and since your fellow CBCP mafiosi screwed up your thinking. If you want, read what you are posting here and that is a perfect example of twisted or convoluted thinking. Baka naman tanungin mo ang meaning ng convoluted. Bumalik ka sa WanBull(X2) U or kaya tanungin mo kay kuya mong S-otot. (Maawa ka sarili mo. Gumamit ka ng condom-anong malay mo isa sa mga customer mong masturbishop could be a carrier of the HIV virus-warning, hindi daw 100% protection and condom. Your life style is risky, pero enjoy ka naman. Eh bakit nga ba ako nakikiaalam sa buhay ng ogag na ito?

  • Facile1

    In reply to artz555:

    If you are a man, you have nothing to lose.

    If you are woman, you will be treated as if “in need of medication” simply because your perfectly healthy body functions as it was designed to do — carry a pregnancy to term.

    By “indiscriminate distribution”, I mean the “poorest of the poor” (your words) will be given oral contraceptives regardless of their state of health. The “poorest (women) of the poor” will be given oral contraceptives NOT because they are sick, but to prevent pregnancy (which is a healthy function of their bodies by definition.) The free distribution of oral contraceptives is indiscriminate with regard to the health of the “poorest (women) of the poor” and discriminatory with regard to their social class.

    The “liability” you refer to will not cover individual Filipinas who were given oral contraceptives by a government program IN SPITE of known risks.

    And I agree. The discussion must end and this is as good a place as any.

    It is NOT important to me to be right in this matter (now or “ten years” from now). What matters to me is that HEALTHY Filipina women (albeit the “poorest of the poor”) are not exposed to the UNNECESSARY risks (however small) of oral contraceptives. This is the ONE argument the RH Bill CANNOT make because the risks are known and well-documented.

    • artz555

      P.S.   Miss Facile 1, actually we don’t have to wait in a decade or two, to prove that I may or may just be on the right side in our discussions.

      All we have to do is compare the conditions, from about 30-35  years ago and then today, the prevailing conditions between PH and it’s neighbors, Thirty to thirty five years ago, PH had about equal or higher per capita GDP ( per capita GDP, equating to the standard of living of a country ) than Singapore , Malaysia or Thailand. 

      But today, Singapore has more than 12 times the per capita GDP of PH, Malaysia has 4 times the per capita GDP of PH,  and Thailand has 2 times the per capita GDP of PH. This all happened because these other countries have maintained their low populations in that period, ( with low population growths ) while PH had the fastest population growth compared to these countries. And of course, these neighbors had universal RH for their people during this period compared to minimal or an ineffective RH for PH.

      PH neighbors, who have relatively higher standards of living now than PH, may have also healthy mothers and children now in their poorer families, even with the use of contraceptives or other devices.

      Check Wikipedia, or other sources, to check the details of these countries  and you will come up with the same conclusion. 

      Thank you. End of discussion.

      And pass the RH bill now.

  • Ma. Eunice Gieanne G. Fortea

    “To our respectable lawmakers, please vote on RH Bill with our RIGHT,TRUE and MORAL CONSCIENCE grounded on man’s relationship with GOD.”

    Ma. Eunice Gieanne G. Fortea
    2BES2
    University of Santo Tomas
    fma.eunicegieanne@yahoo.com

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V7GZCBDHG7Q7XI5DBEGD4NY5GM Yannah Marielle

    To our respectable lawmakers, please vote on RH Bill with our RIGHT,TRUE and MORAL CONSCIENCE grounded on man’s relationship with GOD.
    Reyes, Yannah Marielle V. 2BES2, University of Santo Tomas, yannahmariellereyes@yahoo.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/elle.uy.1 Elle Uy

    “To our respectable lawmakers, please vote on the RH
    Bill with our RIGHT, TRUE and MORAL CONSCIENCE grounded on maris relationship
    with God.”

     

    Uy, Lovely Rose L.

    2LM2

    UST



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