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Bishops reject revised RH bill

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Antipolo Bishop Gabriel Reyes, chairman of the CBCP-Episcopal Commission on Family and Life (cbcponline.net photo)

The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) has rejected the “watered-down” version of the reproductive health (RH) bill being proposed by House Speaker Feliciano Belmonte, a bishop said Tuesday.

The amended version of House Bill No. 4244 should still be scrapped for promoting artificial contraception, said Antipolo Bishop Gabriel Reyes, chairman of the CBCP-Episcopal Commission on Family and Life.

“Despite some good amendments, this latest version remains harmful because of the bad provisions that are still there. I will cite only one example: The promotion of contraception or artificial methods of birth control is still very much a part of it,” Reyes told a press forum Tuesday.

“Despite some good amendments, this latest version of HB 4244 is not acceptable because of its bad provisions,” he said.

Reyes acknowledged as a “marked improvement” a provision in the latest RH bill version which prohibits “reproductive healthcare services, methods, devices and supplies” that prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum.

However, this still did not make the bill acceptable “because it is wrong to promote contraception and give free contraceptives whether to the rich or the poor,” he said.

“These methods, devices and supplies are abortifacient,” he said.

He stressed that the Church’s aim in opposing HB 4244 is  to protect not only the good of Catholics but the good of all, Catholics and non-Catholics.”

“We remain steadfast in our position: The poor does not stand to gain anything from contraceptive use. Poverty cannot be solved—neither fully nor partially—by contraceptive use and its promotion,” Reyes said.

Aquino certification

Meanwhile, two administration congressmen pushing for the passage of HB 4244 acknowledged that the passage of the bill would greatly speed up if the President certifies the measure as urgent, like he did the sin tax bill.

But Rep. Sherwin Tugna of the Cibac party-list admitted that HB 4244 could not be compared to the sin tax bill and the General Appropriations Bill, which both receive unequivocal support from the Palace.

“You cannot equate the RH bill and the sin tax bill and other measures, which have been supported by the administration, because this is something that crosses party lines and this is something that is truly divisive,” he told reporters.

“Each representative’s stand is mainly dictated by the stand of his particular constituents,” he said.

Aurora Rep. Juan Edgardo Angara said having the RH bill certified as “urgent” by Mr. Aquino “changes the equation.”

“You can pass it on second and third reading on the same day. You can dispense with the requirements of the Constitution that three days must pass between the second and third reading,” he said.

But Angara is not pushing the panic button yet as he said “it’s still early in the game to give up hope.”

The House is stuck in the period of individual amendments, mainly because of the lack of a quorum. Opponents of the bill have called attention to their colleagues pushing for the measure for not showing up in plenary.

Omnibus’ amendments

Rep. Rufus Rodriguez on Tuesday said his group would oppose any move to formally introduce a substitute bill containing “omnibus” amendments to HB 4244 on the floor. The House leadership distributed just such a measure before members went on break last month.

But an omnibus amendment cannot be done in the plenary, he said. “It has to go back to the committee and it will be called committee amendments,” he said.

Rodriguez admitted, however, that a move to block the substitute bill might be outvoted in the plenary. If that happens, he said he was prepared to “propose as many amendments as there are sections.”

Opponents of the RH bill argued that the proposed law would only duplicate existing laws that already address such issues as women’s health and maternal mortality. They also pointed to the alleged presence in the country of foreign lobby groups, some of which openly support abortion. With a report from Rima Granali


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  • poldapipol

    There will never be an acceptable RH Bill to these idiots of the church. Fools, mind your own business..do not tolerate the pedophiles within your ranks. Do not hide the child abusers and ivory smugglers .

  • jadejones2012

    Hoy mga Pinoy.

    Do you really wanna know why you will never develop and remain a stinkin’ third world country forever?

    Hawak pa rin ni Padre Damaso ang mga bayag ninyo!

    Enjoy your slavery!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    This is good news to keep the country backward, 
    on same time it will increase the discredit of this obsolete, old and sick institution.

    The day the population will realize how much they where abused by them
    the last 400 hundreds years and the consequences is not to far.

    Obviously they stand by the “elites” power against the poor,
    a sin by itself.

    At the French revolution(1789),
    the Clergy paid a dire price for his traditional hypocritical abusive attitude.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

    Mga pakialamerong garapal at mukhang pera at luxury car lovers na mga obispo at pare! manahinik na lang kayo! Saan ninyo dinadala ang bilyon-bilyon ninyong colletion linggo- linggo! May mga ntututlungan ba kayhong mga mahihirap! puro kayo mga ganid sa salapi kaya gusto niyo madaming mahirap na magsisimba at magbibigay ng abuloy! puweeeee !

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    Ang gusto talaga ng mitsubishops e dumami ang tao at mahihirap. Kaya nga rin hindi nila pinupuna ang mga kalandian ng artista sa tv para maging huwaran at dumami ang tao.

  • just_anotherperson

    The Catholic laity also reject the revised RH Bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP KATOLIBAN BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’ 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SCIENCE VS KATOLIBAN BISHOPS THIS BISHOPS IS A QUIET TERRORISIM IN THE PHILIPPINES 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    Wake up CBCP!  The Philippines is falling behind other countries now. Here in the U.S., the reasons why the GOP’s lost the presidency, lost seats in the Senate and also in the lower house are because of their stand against women. Let the women of the Philippines decide their future and health based on the ability to take care of their children.  

    Using contraceptives is not aborting children. Prevention is different from abortion. How can an average family with an income of 80,000 pesos a year manage to give their kids health coverage, send them to school and ensure foods are always handy on the table?  Kailangan ang common sense hindi iyong anak lang ng anak.  Hindi ginusto ng Maykapal na pahirapan ang mga nilalang niya sa ganitong paraan.  Kaya tayo binigyan ng utak ay para magisip at magsikap at hindi iyong anak lang ng anak.  Maawa kayo sa mga bata na karamihan ay nanlilimahid, hindi nakapagaral, mga sakitin at pagala-gala sa lansangan.

    To CBCP, time to reverse your position and compromise for the future of our children. The more you oppose the RH bill, the more you commit sins to God.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      The Clergy is Christian only in hypocrite rituals,
      only some considered renegade Priest are, 
      alike Panlilio, running Priest, anti- mining, etc.
      On the other side you have the Pajero and envelope Bos’s.

  • gusm

    The bishops are in no position to reject or approve anything, they were not voted by the people to make or reject any law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    UNITED NATIONS NA ANG NAG SABI KAILANGAN NG PILIPINAS NG FAMILY PLANING BASTA CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN TERRORIST KAKAPAL NG MUKA MUKANG MONTERO AT PAJERO LALO NA YAN SI BISHOP BACANI AT YUNG SI MONSINYOR OSCAR CRUZ MUKANG GALUNGONG ANG PAG MUMUKA MGA TERORISTA” TAMA NGA SI DR JOSE RIZAL MGA KAPON TALAGA NG KADILIMAN”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    Reminder,,,,, DO NOT VOTE FOR POLITICIANS WHO OPPOSE THE RH BILL NEXT YEAR.  ALSO, DO NOT VOTE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DYNASTIES IN THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS.  YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

    • boyod

      Anong dynasty. Since time memorial itong Roman Chatolic ay isang dynastiya na, di ba? Sila sila lang ang nagusap-usap para utuin ang mga tao na sumampalatya sa GOD, THE FATHER  at JESUS CHRIST. Please don’t use GOD’s name in vain, mangilabot kayo.

      At ikaw benjamin, siguro bakliting pare ka na bumibiktima ng mga Altar Boys. At ano naman kaya ang gawin nyo sa mga pro-RH bill na hindi politician pero kristyano, aber!    

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

        Pro RH ka ba or anti-RH? What I am insinuating is that the Filipino people must wake up to reality just like other nations in the world did. Even in Italy where the Vatican is situated, there are contraceptives and abortions are allowed. I am pro-RH dahil nakakaawa na ang mga batang nagkalat sa lansangan, hindi mapagaral, hindi mapakain, hindi madamitan at hindi mabigyan ng tamang pagkain at iba-iba pang pangangailangan.  Ngayon, kung mali ito, ikaw BOYOD ay sira ang ulo. I dont live in the Philippines for I am a Fil-Am but I am proud of my race even if I am here in the States and I consider myself a Pinoy in heart and blood. Ipasa ang RH bill at bigyan ng karapatan ang mga ina na pumili ng tama para sa kanilang pamilya at hindi utos ng simbahan na gusto pang lalong dumami ang mga tao sa Pinas. Gising Pilipinas!

  • Ommm

    ” “We remain steadfast in our position: The poor does not stand to gain
    anything from contraceptive use. Poverty cannot be solved—neither fully
    nor partially—by contraceptive use and its promotion,” Reyes said.”

    This must be the dumbest statement in history…. even Sotto wouldn’t bother to steal it…

    • where_I_stand

      I think it is your statements that have no sense at all.

      Can contraceptive use eradicate poverty? The obvious answer is no. If you think it can, a freshman college student will laugh at your gross ignorance!

      • yesyesyo

        On the other hand, the bishops’ proposal can not solve poverty too. Abstinence will create the bigger problem of priests turning gay and child molesters for masturbating. with better choice and family planning, there is a better chance for poor families to have lesser mouths to feed.

      • Ommm

        Obvious that you missed college…or even basic math lessons….2+1=3….2+8=10…10 is much greater than 3….3.3333333333 as many. So in real life one kilo of rice can feed 3 people but 10 people will still be hungry after consuming one kilo.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      For Poor with a pitiful income, two children’s it’s already a vey hard life.
      Easier to share with two than with 9, no need to be Einstein to understand.

      • JuanTamadachi

        well said..

  • boyod

    ano ba ang pakialam ng CBCP at bakit very brave silang mag reject, ano ba sila lawmakers bakit nakikialam naman itong mga kampon ni DAMASO. hOY MHGA brod PWDE  ba sidestep muna kayo diyan saan na ngayon ang separation of the church and state. Wala talaga itong mga mukhang Montero at Pajero sama nalang kayo kay Rustom Padilla, magladlad na kayo  

  • Hey_Dudes

    But of course anything that will reduce the collection from baptismal, confirmation, death fees and hourly missal basket intake – expect these to reject it period!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    LALO NA YANG SI TITO SOTTO KAMPON YAN NG CBCP KATOLIBAN MGA ALAGAD NG DILIM PATI YAN SI ENRILE TUMANDA NA SA SENADO DI PA GUMAWA NG MABUTI SA BANSA” DI MAKUKUWA SA PADASAL YAN MEDICAL SCIENCE ANG SULUTION HINDI ANG CBCP KATOLIBAN MGA TERRORISTA AT KAMPON NG DEMONYO LUMAYAS KAYO SA PINAS MGA MONSINYOR MAHIHILIG SA MONTERO PAJERO 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES””

  • UrHONOR

    MAY pa-reject-reject pa ang mga TNL na tila mga kung-sinong gobernador-heneral ng bayan, e, yon nga lang mismong mga abusado… at uma-abuso sa mga kabataan, lalakwe, at mga bebot na kabalikat at kabaro nila, e, wala silang magawa, nakikisawsaw na naman!  How can you see the mote in your brother’s eye and you can’t see the beam before your eyes?  Tulad na ng dati, mabibilis sa pabgunot ng baril ng panghusga at pinalalabas na sila ang malinis (dahil naka-puti) at yong IBA PA ay makasalanan.  PSHAW!

    Yan ang siste sa mga pinagkakatiwalaan at pinapapahalagahan ng mga mamamayang said-na-said na sa brain-washing na inumpisahan ng mga damasos noon pang panahon ng mga TNL na kastilaloy……ABUSADO numero UNO.  Isang bagay lamang na babaliktarin ang lahat pa ng mga ibang bagay pa tungkol sa raket ng mga TNL na yan:  ANO ang ginagawa ng bilyon-bilyong salapi, kwarta, at pera ng mga naka-puti sa halos lahat ng financial institutions sa bayan?  Klarong-klaro na ginagatasan, kinakaltasan, at tinatalupan ng buhay ang mga nadedenggoy nila sa pagbibigay ng ABULOY o LIMOSNA para sa kanilang sariling kasaganaan at kaligtasan….habang ang mga nagbibigay o pinabibigay ay nakasadlak sa lubluban ng mga peste.  Saan pinagkukuha ng ROMA ang bilyon-bilyong dolyar na mga settlement na inareglo at inayos nila para hindi na lumala ang iskandalo sa buong mundo.  Nung panahon ni Bernard Law na nasangkot sa child abuse, isang tambak na USD ang binayad sa mga nagreklamong mga biktima.  Saan nanggaling yong TNL na ipinangbayad?  Saan pa kundi karamihan sa mahihirap.  Kaya sa mga bayang tinaguriang kaTOLik, ang mga mamamayan ay naghihirap at ang mga naka-sayang puti ay nagpapasarap.

    Never mind the other issues largely of which is SANCTIMONY or HYPOCRISY since such are innate in human nature.  Pero yong financial systematic exploitation of the poor and innocent na plinano at ginawa ng intentional to a sceince is UNFORGIVEABLE. Habang marami ang namamatay at hindi nag-enjoy ng buhay nila sa mundo sa pagtitipid sa mga sarili nilang pangangailangan para may ma-ibigay sa mga TNL na mistulang linta ng lipunan (kabig-ng-kabig lang para sa kanilang kapakanan, tapos hindi naman nagbibigay ng kontribusyon o nagbabayad ng buwis), si damaso naman ay daig pa ang lifestyle of the rich and the famous dahil nakukuha ang lahat ng walang bayad.  Pati gatas…nagakakagatas ng walang sariling BAKA.

    REJECT……oo nga, tama.  KAYONG mga mapagsamantala at mapagbalatkayo ang nararapat na I-REJECT.  Sa mga kaisipang gawa-gawa lamang na hindi naman kayang patunayan, pinalulutang na katotohanan yang mga yon at nararapat na sundin…..KUNDI, masusunog sa apoy ng ano sa kaisipang PANANAKOT para lalong dumukot ng malalim sa bulsa.

    Hindi ISYU dito ang kung ano ang paniniwala o persuasion ninuman….ke kaTOLik, protestant, INK, LDS, atheist, etc …. these are hard facts.  You can always parry the truth but it will always hit you where it hurts most when you least expect it.

  • kulittwit

    Ayaw ng mga pari sa artificial contraception pero yong gusto nilang natural contraception na abstinence ay palpak din. Ang mga seminarista jakol ng jakol pa rin. At maraming pari ang sexual offenders. Dapat ito ang atupagin ng mga obispo.

    Kung ang mga pari mismo ay hindi maka kontrol sa libog nila, wag nyong isama ang ibang tao na gumagamit ng condom.

  • Hey_Dudes

    During my early years decade 50’s, the population was only around 26 million.  During that decade the catholic church did not have a CBCP but still well respected and people including myself look up to the priest with reverence. One thing, with very little population, there was plenty for everyone and with governance still in ‘HONESTY’ mode, there was less corruption, grafters and citizens were satisfied in their lives that no one goes around looking to kill someone so they can have money for drugs etc. etc.  In those good old days, we even walked to schools unlike today – try walking to schools and see if you will come back alive.

    CBCP, it is time we Filipinos learn reducing our numbers so those who are already in existence will have chances of availing government services and private opportunities.  Kung hindi kayo payag, magbayad na rin kayo ng taxes so it will help pay for their survivals.

  • bgcorg

    It doesn’t help to clarify issues by ad hominem and personal criticisms.  For want of rational bases, pro-rh adherents turn to name calling and disparaging remarks, as though they themselves come clean.  The Church had always identified itself with the poor: there is no reason for doing so if her mere intention is to enrich herself.  It would have been better to align herself with the rich and powerful had this been her mandate; she does not.  Whether rich or poor the Church is there for them; because everyone is in need of salvation.  The Church reminds people, rich or poor, that there is life after death and that eternal values should hold their primacy over passing, temporal and ephemeral values.  She continues what her divine Founder had instituted her to be: his Mystical Body on earth, his sacrament of salvation for all men to have and to hold.  If we need a concrete proof of God’s continuous care and love for us, look to the Church: she dispenses the largesse of God’s forgiveness, grace and love beyond all telling.  We only need to respond to God’s call for obedience, Faith, Hope and Love!

    Care and love for the poor can be concretely demonstrated, not by the free distribution of condoms and contraceptives and neglect “openness to life,” as though God had nothing to do with life and that, without the practice of the virtues, we can just do what we want “because the poor keep multiplying like rabbits.”  We feel there may not be enough for all of us, and suspiciously look and watch over our neighbor’s shoulders, envious of what he has and enjoy. We would rather give the poor “cake” in the form of condoms and contraceptives when what they ask for, and really need, is “bread.”  Poverty and corruption should first be directly addressed; to blame the so-called “overpopulation” as the root of poverty is to “wag the tail by the dog” and to produce a specious smoke screen as an issue of women’s rights without the corresponding moral responsibility for human acts.  Each man or woman or the married couple, for that matter, are naturally, almost by instinct, aware of their moral responsibility to do good and avoid evil.  And, to arrogate for themselves the power over life and death, is eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, going beyond their finite powers. It is doing what they should not do, even as they do not want the same/similar things done to them.  Natural life is also a gift: man is to preserve it, before, during and after, (at any stage) until the Creator of life deems it the rightful moment to take back.  That is why, we abhor death: life if not ours.  Violence against it at any stage is “doing to others what we do not like them to do to us”!  Had our parents not loved us and the creative power of love been prevented into full bloom, we would not have been and are in this world today!   

    First things first.  We are “the king’s faithful servants, but God’s first.”  San Pedro Calungsod and many others who have lived, and died, for their faith, inspire us and truly grasp the meaning of “man proposes, but God disposes.”  NO TO THE RH BILL THAT PROMOTES ARTIFICIAL CONTRACEPTION.  It would be a legislated attack on the very human life we hold dear and which the Constitution fully protects.  Legislators should listen to their conscience and go back to the pristine appreciation of right and wrong.  No to the rh bill.

    • TOMA_NA

      You serious?? roman catholic is NOT THE ONLY religion in the PH MIND YOU! Stop positioning yourself as if all of you are so righteous and holy. Your ranks still have the boy molesters, girl bar hopping and girlfriend bearing priests….so back off with your self righteous statement “as though they themselves come clean” that is really pathetic and shows how hypocrites you are.

      RH bill is primarily for the health benefits of women, CHILD BEARING women. You get that? I understand why you have difficulty understanding this basic concept because some of you priests do not engage in sexual acts….a fact which makes me laugh…kasi dami nyo din kasi hindi kayang magpigil….well at least sometimes somemof the priests don’t worry getting someone pregnant kasi most of the time ang sexual targets are boys!

      It is 2012, we are no longer living in the 1800’s. The people need the RH BILL, the women need this. Proper education will always be a part of this proposed law and the PEOPLE regardless of religion are entitled to this….heck even priests!

      I PRAY THAT THE RH BILL GETS PASSED! THE LORD WILL SURELY BE HAPPY SEEING FILIPINOS STARTING TO GROW UP!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.dy.395 John Dy

      “Each man or woman or the married couple, for that matter, are naturally, almost by instinct, aware of their moral responsibility to do good and avoid evil. ” 
      TELL THAT to your molester and rapist clerics

  • yesyesyo

    Masturbation is the way of release for seminarians and priests. In many occasions, seminarians masturbate in groups in their dormitories. no wonder many of them turn homosexuals. Anyways, masturbation is certainly not abstinence, as what the bishops want for all mortals.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    I have been to several Southeast Asian countries and I’ve personally observed the progress and developments happening in there. One thing that fascinates me was when I asked my local-friends whether the churches or religions in their countries are interfering in the affairs of their governments, their answer was a big NO. I can only shake my head thinking that in the PHL our politicians and even the government are held captive by the RC church.

    I definitely believe that a couple of decades from now, if we cannot free our country from the shackles of the RC church, then we will certainly find ourselves at the lowest rank among ASEAN.

    Down with RC church’s meddling and PASS THE RH BILL NOW!!

  • quirinomayer

    If Christ Himself would come back to Earth today and visit the Philippines, he would denounce the CBCP as bogus Christian teachers for interfering in legislation. First, Christ taught the principle of separation of  church and state when he said “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s. And they marvelled at him.” Mark 12:17. And never is there any  incident recorded in the Bible when he showed any inclination to intervene in government matters. In fact in Jone 18:36, He said “ My kingdom is not of this wo rld: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” But by contrast, these  Padre Damasos want to run the affairs of the government and want only the legislations they favor to be passed.

    GO GO RH BILL! DOWN WITH THESE MODERN DAY PHARISEES!

  • isidro c. valencia

    PROLIFE says,

    “Simply put it, 12 senators do not know the moment when their lives, or our lives for that matter, began.

     “The ONLY reason Senators Santiago, P. Cayetano, A. Cayetano, Lacson, Drilon, Angara, Arroyo, Escudero, Guingona, Marcos, Osmena, and Legarda refuse to define the beginning of life at the moment of fertilization is that this will result in the banning of hormonal contraceptives and IUDs which possess a mechanism of action of preventing the implantation of the embryo on the endometrium, i.e. they have an abortifacient effect.” 

    Said, Dr. Abraham Daniel Campo Cruz, M.D. He adds, “Formally defining that life begins at fertilization will basically unravel the Reproductive Health Bill.”

  • batangsulpok

    Habang mga pulitiko natin ay nagpapa-ilalim sa simbahang katoliko, walang pag-asang umasenso ang Pilipinas.

  • joerizal

    e ano kung di nila gusto ang RH bill? Sino ba sila? Board of censors? Inggit lang sila kasi di nila magamit ang kaloob ng Diyos sa kanila na sandata. Sa totoo lang sila ang lumalabag sa utos ng Diyos na “humayo kayo at magparami” dahil sa pagbabawal sa pag-asawa. Maraming contradictions ang simbahan kaya ewan ko kung bakit pa tinatangkilik ang pinakamalaking Ponzi scam na ito.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    ITALY and ISRAEL, the Original christians, have Universal RH for the people.

    Wag na tayong TRYING HARD na catholics.

  • nes911

    Ignore the bishops, pass the rh bill! These bishops are just politicking for their own survival. Wala n sila sa panahon and their lots are dwindling.

  • Bengatibo

    People of the Philippines, Pls. find ways to stop Padre Damaso in meddling in our political affairs. We can send e-mails to Vatican to order to stop bishops in meddling in our politics. Perhaps why Pope Benedict XVI installed Tagle to be a Cardinal. Even he perhaps can order the bishops to stop meddling. Even newspapers can contribute by not publishing anything about the church if the news involves anything about politics. Ito ang tunay na ipinaglalaban ni Jose Rizal, ang pakikialam ni Padre Damaso sa lahat nang bagay sa Philippine society pati na rin sa pulitika!!!

  • Bengatibo

    Ang tunay na kalaban nang Pilipinas ay ang Simbahang Katoliko. Si Padre Damaso ang dumadagan sa ATING bAYAN PARA UMASENSO!!! Umpisahan na natin ang himagsik laban sa pakikialam nang Simbahan sa ating pulitika. SINO ANG TAKOT KAY PADRE DAMASO???

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      mga trapo..

    • Milesaway

      Ako ginagalang ko ang mga Pari.. Isinilang
      akong Katoliko at mamatay din akong Katoliko at naniniwala na si Hesus Kristo
      ang anak ng Diyos.

      Bakit naman kayo nagagalit sa mga Pari? Ang Pari
      ay isa rin propesyon at may sinu-sunod silang alitutunin ayun turo ng Catholicism
      at yun ang ipaglalaban nila.

      Bakit sa mga Abogado hindi kayo nagagalit
      kung ipinagtatanggol niya sa hukuman ang taong pumatay? Ganun din po ang
      trabaho ng Pari ang ipinaglalaban nila ang kautusan at paniniwala ng Kristiyanismo. In short, trabaho lang ng Pari ang kanilang ginagawa kaya let them speaks at nasa
      sa inyo kung ayaw ninyong maniwala but never condemned them. Please!    

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        “Bakit sa mga Abogado hindi kayo nagagalit kung ipinagtatanggol niya sa hukuman ang taong pumatay?”

        bakit may mga rc christian ministries sa loob ng nbp? diba nagkasala ang mga taong nasa loob nito?

        sa pag tulong at supporta ba sa mga taong ito, ibig sabihin, kinukunsinti natin ang mga ginawa nilang krimen?

      • johnpierre

        Leche!

        Mang rape ng bata at demonyo daw ang may kasalanan at sineduce daw nga bata. 

        Demonyo ka mo!

      • Babiker_Ahmed

        Layo naman ng sense mo Milesaway!!!

        Galit kami kasi nakikialam sila sa affairs ng state na di naman nila dapat pakialaman.. Maliwanag pa sa tatlong bituin at isang nagniningning na araw ang nakasaad sa Constitution….

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    Do we have to submit this Reproductive Health bill to them Damasos  for their approval? What creatures are they to say they cannot accept it. Do they mean that if this bill pass into law they will violate it? Well, that’s the same thing they do when they violate and abuse young girls and altar boys. What gall. If those nuts in the senate and house cannot vote on it, let us, the people, do it.  Include the question ‘Do you want the RH bill to become a law or not’ in the ballot  next election. We just answer yes or no, period. Count ‘em yes, count ‘em no, and then we go. Too much politics, too much religion, too much wasted time. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.dy.395 John Dy

    Excuse us, but this bill is not being discussed for you. You wanna make your own legislation? Run for office. You wanna have more reason to criticize and influence the legislators? Start paying taxes. You want respect? Try not pushing your archaic superstitious beliefs down everyone’s throat. Otherwise, SHUT THE F–K UP!

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.dy.395 John Dy

    do you also reject the sexual abuses of your priests and bishops?

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    Of course, it was just as expected. No amount of reasoning can change people with a closed mindset.

    Having said his peace, and ours’ equally expressed, let us go for the vote, and have it done and over with.

    • marionics

      he he he mahinahon ka ah he he

      pero siyempre tama naman yan. it is the bishops’ right to reject whatever the fúck they want to reject. but it should be up to government to do what the hėll should be done.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Amen brother, amen.

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    He is just expressing what his ideas, which is protected, btw.

    It has always been my idea that most rc’s listen to god given reason, and that no amount of blind obedience can defeat what is considered morally right by the whole world.

     

  • divictes

    The CBCP is composed of men who made a vow of sexual abstinence, yeah well,for argument’s sake; anyway, why should we let them hold us__ sexually normal beings, hostage to their belief
    and set of values specifically tailored for their kind? Pass the bill please.

  • NYPinoy

    An amused-looking virgin old man who, together with his equally virgin and old colleagues, decides the sexual and reproductive health of women.  This is a surreal scene.  

    • johnpierre

      Are you sure they are virgins?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Hypocrite’s for sure, 
        as to be against sex is to be against Mother Nature,
        is to be against God.
        To ban sex for the priest show the Vatican is perverted sexist,
        WOMEN are Men Equals, still have to be learned.

  • vinzerx

    And we’re supposed to care that the bishops reject the bill? Last I checked, they’re not lawmakers.

  • mangtom

    A BIG question: Who is running this country? The Philippine government or the Roman Catholic Church?

    • artz555

      If there is a question of who should be running  the country ? It is the Philipinine government of course, and not the Church. Anyone who disagrees with this should wake up and refer to the Philippine constitution. The Church should not interfere with the affairs of the state because of this specific constitutional provision :

      ( Specifically ), Article II, Section 6, of the PH constitution says :

             ” The Separation of Church and State shall be Inviolable.” 

       From Websters dictionary, ‘Inviolable’ means , cannot be violated, incorruptible,..etc.

      I’m not a lawyer, but anyone who willfully violates this or other provisions of the PH constitution, should be prosecuted.

  • beer_leader

    mabuhay ang mga kagalang galang na corrupt bishops and corrupt priests or cbcp ! mabuhay ang mga malilinis,matutuwid at may konsensya na mga pedophile priests ! sila lang ang nakakaalam ng makabubuti para sa bayan lalo na nung panahon ni gma habang ni raransack ang kaban ng bayan tulog silang lahat  .

    • johnpierre

       corrupt bishops and corrupt priests or cbcp. truly amazing

  • mangtom

    Let all the Filipinos, men and women, join the ranks of the masturbishops and we will have no heated argument about RH bill. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHRCFJCTTELDGFBR7NTBO5VFJQ Chokla

    RIGHT UP YOUR AHOLES!!!!!!  ALL YOU HOMOS APEAN FAGGOTS MOTHER-SCUMBAGS!!!!!
    SIMULAN NYO NANG IBENTA  ANG MGA TAMOD NYONG MGA INIPON dahil BABAGSAG NA ANG  NEGOSYO NYO at LAHAT NG INVESTMENTS NYO sa PHILIPPINE SPERMings TAMOD TRADING AND BANKINGS…..MGA KAMPON KAYO NG KUPA;L-PAPA NYO!!!!!

  • jenny lim

     

    RH Bill in general is ok, the bishops object the provision
    and mandate on the use of contraception and artificial birth control.  I don’t think these congressmen sponsors
    would agree to scrap this provision/mandate – this is the “MEAT” of
    the matter.

    Alisin na lahat na provisions and mandates sa RH Bill, ‘wag
    lang yung contraception and artificial means for birth control – the sponsors
    would surely say.

    What’s my take?  Well,
    these senators and congressmen who sponsor the bill are simply telling us:

    “Mga minamahal naming Kababayan, Kababaihan at mga
    Mahihirap, meron tayong RH Bill na seguradong makakatulong sa inyo at
    makakatulong sa paglutas ng ating kahirapan. This bill is about using billions
    of taxpayers’ money to abet sexuality without responsibility, money that can be
    used instead to help the poor, such as building homes for the
    homeless.” 

    And we shouted: “Go our good senators and congressmen,
    thumbs down to the bishops”!

    It does ring a bell how this matter would end.

  • johnpierre

    So what if they reject it? the Roman Catholic Church is a fraud and with leaders appointed by an imaginary being or beings they created themselves to legitimize their authority. They are not elected and therefore are illegitimate and has no place in policy making.

  • rhan duke

    HAYAAN NA SIGURO ANG CBCP NA YAN…. HINDI NAMAN SILA TUMUTULONG SA MGA NAGHIHIRAP NATING MAMAMAYAN…. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

    Opinion nyo po yan mga ‘kagalang-galang’ na Bishops. Unfortunately, you do not have monopoly of knowledge and morality contrary to what you believe.

  • virgoyap

    If Bishops are to be consulted we already know their answer. They think they have the absolute authority from God. And  that they are infallible like God Himself..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLABAN MGA KAMPON NG DILIM LUMAYAS KAYO SA PINAS WAG NINYO KAMING GAWIN MANG MANG MGA TERRORISTA TALIBAN ANG KAKAPAL NG MUKA MGA KAMPON LUMAYAS KAYO SA PINAS WAG NINYO KAMING GAWIN STONE AGE TERORISTA MGA KAMPON NG DEMONYO””””””’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • andrew lim

    Why does Rufus Rodriguez support the death penalty for foreign drug traffickers yet call himself pro-life?

    As long as the RH bill is put to a vote, the result will be respected. What is not acceptable is the filibustering of Rodriguez et al.

    Put it to a vote!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    PH still under the Shackles of DAMASO.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4C2SFYIH52Y2KR7QPZPHJO2XQQ sl1

    The Catholic church has double standard for morality…gambling and prostitutions are okay for no one on the Catholic leaders that are leading very serious to address the problem but on RH bill they are in full force. Which one is more devil the first two or the RH bill?

  • Babiker_Ahmed

    Bishops reject revised RH bill
    Are these bishops lawmakers now in the Philippines?  Why do they keep meddling with the functions and affairs of the state?  

  • ConstructiveMediaCritics

    “NO TO RH BILL 4244″

    “BE PRO LIFE AND PRO GOD” “KEEP FAITH TO GOD”

    BELIEVE IN SUPREME BEING IN HIS SUPREME SPIRITUAL GOODNESS TO PRACTICAL LIFE TEACHINGS, IT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE AND GIVES YOU EVERLASTING LIFE AND INHERIT THE NEW JERUSALEM IN THE FUTURE NEXT LIFE OR BE LIVE IN JUDGEMENT DAY OR COMING OF JESUS CHRIST”

    IN SUPPORTING EVILNESS A NOT PRO LIFE RH BILL 4244 YOU WILL NOT BE GIVEN THE ETERNAL LIFE BY GOD NOR ENTER THE NEW JERUSALEM OR NEW KINGDOM OF HEAVEN…..YOU ARE NOT FAVORING LIVES YOU ARE PUT EVERYONE BELIEVES IN YOU TO HELL….FOR THOSE NON BELIEVERS WETHER YOU LIKE IT NOR IN YOUR PRACTICE IN LIFE YOU ARE BOUND IN GOD LAWS AND TEACHINGS IN THE JUDGEMENT DAY….

    ADHERE LIFE IN FAITH TO GOD AND GOD GIVE YOU EVERLASTING LIFE…..

    RIGHT TO LIFE FOR COMMON GOOD AND LAW…..

    PROTECT AND PROMOTE HUMAN RIGHTS

    GOD AND JESUS AND MOTHER MARY LIGHTS, LIGHTS AND MIRACLE AND LOVE BLESS US ALL….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHRCFJCTTELDGFBR7NTBO5VFJQ Chokla

     We instruct our CBCP Commissions to take active role including networking for this … using sperm banks, 8287, bound forced sex girls, 906, outlaw transgender, ….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      THE CBCP BISHOPS IS TALIBAN STOP TERRORISIM IN THE PHILIPPINES”’ GO BACK TO VATICAN TERRORIST GROUPS”

  • artz555

    The almost 350 years of Spanish colonialism, wherein Spain used the sword and a strong religion as instruments to keep their power in PH for so long, is still evident and are still being manifested by some die-hard anti-RH advocates. 

    I’m not against any religious beliefs, but these people should ask themselves the question of why is it that even countries close to the Vatican, namely Italy ( where the Vatican is located), Germany ( where the current Pope Benedict is from ), France ( where pilgrimages are made to visit their Saints), and Poland ( where the late Pope John Paul came from), have universal RH for decades now ? And why have all these countries with universal RH, remained predominantly Christian until now ?

    One reason perhaps is that their respective Churches ( which are relatively not as strong as in PH ), do not interfere with the affairs of their governments. Another reason also, is that both the government and the people of these countries have seen the advantages of well planned economies, wherein families and the governments are not overburdened by the demands of big families or big populations. Whatever they are doing is also happening in other more advanced countries, ( from Singapore to Japan), Christian or otherwise, wherein they have high standards of living, and the people are happy and contented. 

    This happiness and contentment is happening simply because, in small populations, there are a fewer number of people getting a bigger and bigger share of the countries GDP pie, or the countries wealth; and the government is not overburdened by the demands of a big population. Simply put, these countries have higher per capita GDP’s, than countries with big populations, wherein the latter’s big families are overburdened by the higher costs of living, and the limited resources of their government are overstretched to the limits.

    If the people in the Philippines would like to live a better quality of life, with higher standards of living in the very near future like those other advanced countries ( instead of more suffering and misery for years to come ), they should tell their representatives in Congress ( by phone, E-mail, text, etc.), to pass the RH bill now.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHRCFJCTTELDGFBR7NTBO5VFJQ Chokla

    RIGHT UP YOUR AHOLES!!!!!!  ALL YOU HOMOS APEAN FAGGOTS MOTHER-SCUMBAGS!!!!!
    SIMULAN NYO NANG IBENTA  ANG MGA TAMOD NYONG MGA INIPON dahil BABAGSAG NA ANG  NEGOSYO NYO at LAHAT NG INVESTMENTS NYO sa PHILIPPINE SPERMings TAMOD TRADING AND BANKINGS…..MGA KAMPON KAYO NG KUPAL-PAPA NYO!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    REPUBLIC OF MITSUBISHOPS OF THE PHILIPPINES” IN DOG BISHOPS WE TRUST”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN IS A DOG AND A TERRORIST”’ IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Just look at that 70 year old Virgin above.

  • kuracha

    The bishops disagree to anything. Sure, they have to, being the moral “anchor” we have as a nation. I say, please. The CBCP has issues on their own, so they should really look to solve those first, before they come meddling in the affairs of the government. 

    • AlexanderAmproz

      A Pajero, envelopes, children’s abusers as moral leaders ?

      A sardonic laugh  !

  • DonkeyKong1

    I agree with kuracha “The CBCP has issues on their own, so they should really look to solve those first, before they come meddling in the affairs of the government.” Separate church and state! We need to have the government do what they have to do and bahala na yung catholics to follow their religion, Catholic is not the only religion in the Philippines, so I really don’t understand why they have to meddle!

  • AriannaDraws

    Bakit ba ang daming arte ng simbahan? Di naman sila kasali sa legislative branch ng gobyerno! Why don’t’ they just mind their own business and let the government do their own thing. Let the government do what’s best for its people!

  • Erarara

    I really don’t understand why the church feels so empowered.. It’s not like they’re the ones running the country..

    • AlexanderAmproz

      “Erare Humanum Est”(mistakes are human), specially in da Philippines

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    Mga damasong pulpol! magsalsal na lang kayung mga obispo kayu ! Mga hindowt kau. Tangnanyu!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    DAMASO TUMIGIL KA NA AYUP KA TANGNAMU!

  • arn_arn

              NAKASULAT SA BIBILYA NA WAG KA PUMATAY NG TAO!!!!!!

    Ewan ko lang kong nasa BIBLIYA rin ng mga PROETSTANTENG KRISTIYANO eto kasi iba-iba kc ang Version ng Bible umabot na sa mahigit 20,000+  from 39 cannons up to 88 cannons.

             Sobrang dami na rin ng mga nag REVISE or nag REFORM ng BIBLE.
    Lumampas na sa 35,000+ ang mga RELIHIYONG KRISTIYIANO sa buong MUNDO.

    Isa sa mga batas na nasa RH BILL ay ABORTION.

    Tanong ko lang sa mga PROTESTANTENG KRISTIYANO at pati na rin sa mga Kapwa ko KATOLIKO.

    Kung pumapayag kayu sa RH BILL therefore pumapayag rin kayu na maging legal ang ABORTION, ngayon hindi ba nakasulat sa BIBLIYA na wag ka pumatay ng tao?

    Ikalawa, Ano ba ang nasa loob ng isang babae kapag siya ay nagbubuntis? eto ba ay isang isda?, eto ba ay tanim?, eto ba ay isang bato? or eto ba kaya ay isang TAO?

    Ikatlo, Buhay ba or Patay ang FETUS na nasa loob ng isang babaeng buntis?

    Isa pang nasa batas na nasa loob ng RH Bill ay ang pagbibigay ng mga CONTRACEPTIVES sa mga taong pwede na makapag-REPRODUCE or magka-anak.

    Ngayon tanong ko lang, Ang mga bata or binata na nasa EDAD na 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, at 15 ay nagkakaroon na ng MENSTRUATION pag babae at sperm cell naman pag lalake. 

    PAPAYAG ka ba na bigyan ng pamahalaan ang iyong ANAK or ang KAPATID mo na babae na nasa DOSE ANYOS or 12 years old na kasi ACTIVE na kc ang kanilang Reproductive Organ at pwede ng makipag-SEX kasi hindi NABUBUNTIS dahil sa CONTRACIPTIVES binigay ng GOBYERNO?

    Ok sana yung RH BILL, eh kasu sumasablay sa BIBLIYA natin dahil sa 
    THOU SHALT NOT KILL na nasa TEN COMMANDMENTS…

    Ano sa tingin nyu ang GAGAWIN natin dito? Gusto nyu Burahin nalang natin yung THOU SHALT NOT KILL na nasa BIBLE para 9 Commandments nalang…

    Ewan ko lang sa mga PROTESTANTENG KRISTIYANO, kagaya ng Born-Again, Baptist, Adventists, Prysbeterian, Methodists, Pentecosts, Anglicans, Evangilicals at iba pang international Christian Protestant Religions.

    At pati na rin ang mga PROTESTANTENG RELIHIYON na made ONLY in the Philippines kagaya ng Iglesia ni Manalo or ni Cristo, Aglipay, Kingdom of God Philippine Version, Followers of Christ at iba pang Protestanteng Relihiyon na made ONLY in the Philippines. hehe SOCIAL….

    Karamihan sa mga nabasa kong commments na ng mga Pro-RH Bill ay sabi nila:

    Ang Abortion raw ay hindi ibig sabihin pumapatay ng TAO, kundi Kinukuha lamang yung maliit na Fetus na nasa Loob ng isang Babaeng Nagbubuntis. Ewan ko lang kung hindi tao yung Fetus..

    Kahit isang linggo pang nagbubuntis yung babae, ewan ko lang kung ano yung namumuo sa loob ng matress nila… Bato siguro yun or tumor na pwedeng tanggalin. or isang yung nilalang na nagsisimulang mabuhay sa loob ng matres…

    At ewan ko rin kung Ok ba na bigyan ng pamahalaan ang mga Elemtary, High School at Colleges Students ng mga Contraciptives para hindi mabuntis kapag nakipag-SEX..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    ITALY and ISRAEL, the Original christians, ave Universal RH for the people.
    Wag na tayong TRYING HARD na catholics.

    Daming GUTOM sa kalsada.



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