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Bishop tells Aquino: Don’t be onion-skinned

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Don’t be onion-skinned.

A Catholic bishop on Wednesday urged President Aquino not to be overly sensitive to criticisms from the Catholic Church after he scored the Church hierarchy, in front of Born-Again Christians, for often finding fault with his presidency.

Answering Mr. Aquino, Malolos Bishop Jose Oliveros said the Church was in “critical collaboration” with the government and will not stay silent if it sees mistakes in Aquino’s governance.

“He should be ready for that. Our former presidents were also subjected to criticisms. Many people also criticized President (Ferdinand) Marcos and Gloria (Arroyo). (Aquino) should not be onion-skinned,” Oliveros said in an interview over Church-run Radio Veritas.

The President on Tuesday took a swipe at Catholic bishops critical of his administration while attending a meeting of Born-Again Christians at the Philippine International Convention Center in Pasay City.

“Even if I’m still just about to open my mouth, they’re already criticizing me. Maybe they’re the ones who give me the chance to prove that I’m a Christian,” Aquino said in Filipino, eliciting applause from those present.

Oliveros said that Catholic prelates would not simply look away if they notice “mistakes committed by the President or his subordinates.”

“The Church is always in critical collaboration with the government. That’s why when bishops notice something that is not right, they say it,” Oliveros said.

He cited as an example the controversial Reproductive Health (RH) bill, which is being pushed by the administration despite the vehement opposition of the Church hierarchy because it will make artificial contraceptives more widely available .

“The issue on RH bill is a clear violation of the Church’s teachings because this will result in immorality,”Oliveros said.

He said the Aquino administration should learn to listen to criticisms from the Church because the bishops were only thinking about “the good of the majority and the country.”


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Tags: Benigno Aquino , Bishop Jose Oliveros , Government , Politics , Religion


  • simonibarra27

    Advice ng makakapal na mukha ng mga SUVSHOP. KAKAPAL ng MUKHA ninyo magtrabaho kayo at hwag pagkakitaan ang salita ng Dios! CBCP Anti Christ!

  • quirinomayer

    “Answering Mr. Aquino, Malolos Bishop Jose Oliveros said the Church was
    in “critical collaboration” with the government and will not stay silent
    if it sees mistakes in Aquino’s governance.”

    Nowhere in the Scriptures did Christ and his disciples took the government to task or tried to teach it how to perform its tasks. This stance being expressed by Bishop Oliveros does not proceed from the Founder of Christianity but from the conceited belief  of Padre Damaso that only he knows best for the country and everyone else including the President is an ignorant Indio with a malformed conscience to boot.

    Based on his recorded words and actions while on earth, if Christ would come to the Philippines now, he will not meddle with the affairs of government but will concentrate on the spiritual salvation of mankind. After all while he declared:  “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place.” John 18:36

    AND WHAT WOULD THESE PADRE DAMASO DO IF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CRITICIZED THE WAY THEY RUN THE CHURCH AND WOULD HARP ON THEIR INABILITY TO STRAIGHTEN FILIPINOS MORALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR NEARLY HALF A MILLENNIUM?

    • speaksoftlylove

      Don’t worry lapdog, we are willing to agree with you that PNoy is not onion-skinned. Bishop Oliveros is definitely wrong. In fact it’s the other way arround. PNoy is 100% rhinoceros-skinned. Di na tatablan ng hiya yang amo mo. Read PDI’s editorial which emphasizes PNoy’s lies. “It’s no Time To Doubt Now!”

    • xrisp

      How about John the Baptist reproaching King Herod because of his affair with his brother’s wife?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFCVCFVNTKFNRY33IERRNV4REQ Hazel

        That’s moral and spiritual, but not political. In fact, Jesus has a clear stand on the seperation of Church and state. It was stated on Mark 12:17 – Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.

        Alam ba yan ng mga Bishops? o nagbabasa pa ba sila ng salita ng Diyos? You hear them every Sunday. Ang gagandang pakinggan ng mga sinasabi nila, pero karamihan walang batayan sa Bibliya. Puro kwentong barbero.

      • xrisp

        have you talked to a priest or a bishop? Please do and learn.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFCVCFVNTKFNRY33IERRNV4REQ Hazel

        I know Bishops like the back of my palm. At wala kang mahihita sa kanila kung bible ang pag-uusapan. Sa tatalino ng mga Bishops at mga pari, ay kung bakit sya namang ka bobobo pagdating sa salita ng Diyos. There’s no depth in their undestanding of the Bible.

      • xrisp

        Maybe you have to advertise here to what sect you belong. It must be very good that you could attract a lot of followers!

      • mhertz

        bobo daw sa bible, huwag ka masyadong mayabang kc ang bible na ini-interpret mo at di mo alam na   galing sa Katoliko. Ayos-ayosin mo yung mga interpretasyon mo. Kc marami na kayo ibat-ibang interpretasyon at nagtayo ng kanya-kanyang sekta. Hindi naman yan ang inutos ng bible. May nahanap ka ba sa bible na gumawa kayo ng Bible at gumawa kayo ng ibat-ibang interpretasyon at maghiwa-hiwalay kayo at gumawa ng sariling sekta. Simbahan ang iniwan ni Jesus Christ hindi ang ibat-ibang interpretasyon ng bible at lalong hindi ang ibat-ibang sekta ng Christianity kono?

  • diamond_digger

    The gall of this Oliveros saying the bishops are only thinking about “the good of the majority and the country.” After all the scandals involving many priests, bishops and others in the catholic church, he still has the temerity to say that. And what about the bishops and priests in Italy and the US where there are lawas similar to the controversial RH bill? Does it follow that they aren’t thinking of the good of the majority and the people? Ow, come on, Oliveros! Stop fooling the people.

    • JuanTamadachi

      I couldn’t agree with you more..  Oliveros’ gall is pure and unmitigated.

  • ryan andres

    Wow… don’t be onion skinned…

    O, pag binatikos yung mga baklang pari at pedophile priests ninyo, huwag din kayong balat sibuyas ha?

    • etsubayno_64

       when priest commits human error  he usually says to the faithful when confronted Do not do what I did but follow what I said

      • ryan andres

        Agree!!! Do as I say and not as I do…

  • $14334231

    you can express all you want about the governmen tbut don’t expect the government to heed your criticisms, constructive as you may think it is…..tend to your flocks….they’re moving away from the church, though not necessarily from their faith, but from the propagators like you, bishop oliveros…take this as a constructive criticism…in the meantime, clean your heirarchy with pedophiles, rapists and those who have concubines……as a matter of fact, that’s where you, bishops, should focus your immediate attention…..

  • tadasolo

    “god” save the bishops. The problem with the bishops the more they open their mouth the more stupid they look and out of touch they are in contermporary society. soon churches will be devoid of young people except those who are in the twilight of their years searching for place in the so called “after life”

  • Maldi2

    hehehehe, daming defender si baklang Panot dito.  Kaya pala di nag-aasawa bading pala, gusto ay lalakwe. bwhehehehe.  …. at heto galit sa kapwa bading na mga bishops?  bago yan ha?? bwehehehehe!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MXOWXSFICOTS2EABQMULUO7UTY Rommel Jason

      ano yung point nga dito?

    • panaloangtotoo2

      tatay mo ba yong tsumushupstup napakain ka lang. halungkatin mo baul ng tatay mo baka sya ang bakla!

      • noyab

        baka nga naman piolo dahil walang magkagustong chicks…..ha ha ha gaya mo…

      • $23218244

        SIGE IPASOK MO ANG HOTDOG MO SA ANUS NI OLIVARES AT BIGYAN MO SIYA NG AIDS.

    • $23218244

      ANG TUNAY NA BADING AY IKAW AT SI OLIVARES. PAREHO KAYONG MGA PEDOPHILE, RAPIST. BOBO.

  • freaksmoker

    These yellow supporters of are a bunch of “onion-skinned” followers posting without thinking. Dapat magpasalamat pa nga itong mga alipores ni PNoy kay Bishop Oliveros. “Onion-skinned” are people who can easily get hurt by criticisms. People who can easily feel shame even if the critiques are constructive criticisms. Not so with PNoy. He is proven lying to the people the latest of which is on the issue of his FOI bill promise. Therefore, I agree with spitfire’s post that Bishop Oliveros is “definitely wrong.” PNoy is in fact “rhinoceros-skinned” dahil di na marunong mahiya sa kasinungalingan niya.

    • $23218244

      HINDI KA LANG NAKATANGAP NG SUV. DAPAT BANATAN MO SI BISHOP OLIVARES SA KAMA. BADING.

  • jinx

    RH bill will result in immorality? Were you born yesterday bishop? What dreamland are you in to still get concerned of immorality. Immorality has been there and the CBCP has never done anything to reverse the trend. Instead, the Catholic hierarchy has contributed to the deteriorating morals of society for perpetuating the psychology of mendicancy, over-dependence on authority, and glorification of poverty.  

    • AngelGabs

      It does say in the Bible that artificial birth control is prohibited.
      Catholics often cite the story of Onan in Genesis as an example of God’s disapproval of birth control. Onan, son of Judah, was commanded by his father to fulfill his duty according to ancient Jewish law to father children for his dead brother. Onan knew the offspring would not be considered his own, so he “spilled the semen on the ground” (Gen. 38:9) each time he slept with his brother’s wife. “What he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he slew him” (Gen. 39:10).
      Protestants might argue that God was simply angry with Onan for failing to honor a commandment to produce a child with his dead brother’s wife. But if one looks at Deuteronomy 25:9-10, it is clear that the penalty for this failure is public humiliation, not death (the widow “shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, and pull his sandal off his foot, and spit in his face; . . . And the name of his house shall be called in Israel, the house of him that had his sandal pulled off”).
      Onan’s actions evoked a much more serious response. Early Jewish and Christian commentators believed that by spilling his semen Onan had violated God’s natural law, the design he built into the human race, which led them to condemn the practice of birth control as being against God’s law.

      • AngelGabs

        Also read Pope John Paul’s Humanae Vitae & Theology of the Body.

      • $23218244

        AKO AT ANG PINAY NA MASAHISTA AY UMABOT SA LANGIT. GUMAMIT AKO NG CONDOM. IPASA ANG RH BILL.

      • jinx

         I’ve read that part where Onan spilled his semen and offended the Lord.  But you know what? The writer of this story wasn’t possibly God, but just an old man who looked at the world according to what he believed and had no interest anymore in sex.  He was just another evangelist who duped people into believing in the invisible.  Because if you think masturbation is a sin, or an offense to God, then you better have your brain checked. Sex is a basic human need. It is beautiful, it is healthy, it is wholesome as long as you don’t step on other peoples’ rights or violate other people’s freedom.  Religion makes people deny their being human. It invents a violation which is not all a violation. It even makes some people crazy. 

      • AngelGabs

        You can do whatever you want, say whatever you want, but the underlying truth is we will all die one day and you will answer to no one, the reality is we will all answer to God. Galatians 6:7-10: “Whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. So let us not grow weary in well-doing for in due season we will reap, if we do not lose heart. So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all men, andespecially to those who are of the household of faith.”  God bless, brother!

      • $23218244

        OKS PALA MAGPAPAMASHAE SA PINAY. TAPOS NG MASAHE UMABOT KAMI SA LANGIT. SIYEMPRE GUMAMIT AKO NG CONDOM. IPASA ANG RH BILL. OKS BA NAKA SCORE AKO.

      • jinx

         I will die one day, but I want my life to be happy and fulfilling without breaking the law of the land. I don’t want to keep my life beholden to a dogma that perpetuates poverty and misery believing I will be rewarded in the afterlife.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        So since we’re following the Bible, if someone with a brother dies he has to go shag the brother’s widow, right?  Otherwise it’s a sin, yeah?

        Oh, and the slaying?  It’s either because condoms are bad or because Onan EXPLICITLY DISOBEYED A DIRECT ORDER FROM GOD.

        Because one of those things, by any measure, is worse than the other.

        Oh, and that’s assuming that all Bible books are divine and ineffable, which is something I’m frankly not sold on.

  • TuwadNaDaan

    IYAKIN TALAGA TONG SI BODEX…!!!

    • $23218244

      IKAW NANAMAN. KAKATAPOS MO LANG BANATAN ANG NANAY MO SA KAMA. DAPAT IPASOK MO ANG HOTDOG MO SA ANUS NI OLIVARES, OKS BA.

  • moshki

    …as what Ferdinand Marcos’ influence said…

    …Politics have no relation to morals…

    -The Prince by NM-

  • panaloangtotoo2

    Bishop, daming baklang pari sa Bulacan! Asikasuhin mo. Dami din sa kanila mukhang pera!

    • noyab

      si penoy ba ay lalaki? bakit walang mag kagusto na babae,,, baka piolo rin

      • $23218244

        SIGE MAGSAMA KAYO AT SI PEDOPHILE OLIVARES. BINABANATAN NINYO ANG MGA ALTAR BOY SA KAMA. MGA BABOY.

  • http://jaoromero.com/ Jao Romero

    “He should be ready for that. Our former presidents were also subjected to criticisms. Many people also criticized President (Ferdinand) Marcos and Gloria (Arroyo). (Aquino) should not be onion-skinned,” Oliveros said in an interview over Church-run Radio Veritas.

    put4ng ina mo! hindi binatikos ng simbahang katoliko si Gloria dahil nabiyayaan ng SUV.

    • noyab

      di ka pala nagbabasa ng mga balita kaya di mo alam…bobo ka nga gaya ng pangulo mo penoy….

      • $23218244

        ANG BOBO MO PARE SIGURO IKAW SI BISHOP OLIVARES.

  • simondj

    ano ba etong mga BISHOP na eto? magbasa nga kayo ng Bible. si Jesus Christ hindi po nakialam sa mga gawain ng Roman Government. si Paul hindi rin itinuro iyan, bagkos ang sabi ni Paul,,, obey Government authority. Jesus Christ is not interested in any government affair, his intention is very clear,, the salvation of the soul. Jesus became obedient to Romans verdict of death sentence unto the cross, and after he triumphantly defeated death, he became the auhthor of eternal salvation. only and only to those who believe.

    • mhertz

      ayusin mo maigi ang interpretasyon mo ng bible mo. Kc pag si Hitler at dictador ang naging government mo. Im sure mag obey ka pa din.

  • joeybg

    During the Marcos time if, you criticised Ferdinand “you’re dead”…… sinong niloloko mo??…. why don’t you criticised the other religion too that using the word of God to be rich, perhaps you’re one of them.

  • Bengatibo

    Nakialam nanaman si Padre Damaso. Hindi ba siya nakakahalata. Criticize the wrong doing of your fellow priest, hindi ang gobyerno. Wala kang karapatang humanap nang mali sa pamamalakad nang gobyerno. Ikaw ang kalaban ni Rizal nuong unang panahon, at ikaw pa rin ang kalaban nang gobyerno hanggang ngayon. kaya wala nang nagsisimba ngayon dahil sermon mo puro pulitika, kaya ang tao nagdadasal na lang sa bahay!!! Siguro gusto mo rin nang SUV para matigil ang pakikialam mo sa gobyerno!!!

    • noyab

      mamamayan pa rin yan kahit Pari, kaya may karapatan pa rin, basahin mo constitution para di ka mag mukhang tanga or ignorante sa comments mo… ha ha ha

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        me income tax ba pari? true mamayan pero belonging to the priviledged one. it’s understandle if they make a stand against RH because that is against their teachings pero kung paano pamahalaan ang bansa and kung paano gamitin ang tax i think they should not complain about it. separation of powers malinaw. ang dapat nila gawin pakialaman nila ung pamamalakad sa simbahan nila. karapatan nila magcritecise that is correct pro ndi lang namn pagiging critics ung ginagawa nila, at times nagiging OA na. nung panahon ni gloria, asan ung pagiging critic nila? tahimik d ba? so in my own opinion dapat fair lng din cla sa treatment give our president a chance na mapatupad ung mga gusto nyang pagbabago. ndi namn pede kung ano sabhin nila e susunod ung government. if they want to critecize that’s fine pero pg nasabi na wag na paulit ulit to the point na naninira na like ung iba pare ng gusto pa excomunicate haha..

      • $23218244

        PULL DOWN YOUR PANTS PARE AND MASTURBATE WHILE TAKING A DUMP. THINK OF THAT DAMASO FOR AN EARLY RELEASE.

  • EMMANUEL SENA

    The Constitution states:The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6)…anu po ba mahirap intindihin dyan?..bago natin pahiran ang dumi ng ating kapwa, tignan muna natin Baka mas madumi pa ang ating mukha…yan pag samba sa santo at mga rebulto, di ba ipinagbabawal yan ng ating Diyos (Exodus20:4), Psalm115 at Revelation..ang pasimuno pa ng pagpaparada at pagpahid, Cnu po?. In the book of Matthew, Madami p po sila ginagawa na di naayon sa salita ng Diyos po…kaya nga maglinis muna ng sariling kabahayan bago ang bakuran ng kapitbahay…

    • noyab

      utak PENOY KA RIN BRO…. ha ha ha

      • $23218244

        HOY DAMASO KAININ MO ANG HOTDOG NI BISHOP OLIVARES.

    • johndcross1

      yan ang tama!

    • litobetita

      Huh!!! Matagal na yang issue na yan tungkol sa rebulto? Hangang ngayon wala ka pa din nakukumbinsi dyan sa paniniwala mo. Kaya nga despite of all the wrongdoings of the catholic catholic church according to you…despite dun sa mga taliwas na paniniwala na sianasabi mo eh we are still growing… Wala namang itinatago ang church sa mga kamalian, kaya nga lumabas sa dyaryo at may mga investigations na. Even the pope are open to these criticism and act on it. Ang mga politiko lang naman ang di marunong umamin sa kamalian.    

  • CPCook

    Bishop Oliveros is correct – PNoy should understand that he deserved all criticisms from the Catholic bishops after he stopped allowing them to milk PCSO.  How can PNoy expect the bishops to be fair with him when by making public their “requests” for brand new SUVs, he exposed them for what they are and practically forced them to return their share of the loot?  How can PNoy expect Catholic bishops to be friendly with his administration when he advocates RH bill which, if implemented properly, can reduce the ranks for uneducated and poor and therefore hasten the path for the Catholic bishops to total irrelevance?  Fair is fair…. PNoy should stop complaining when he is party that stopped Catholic bishops from using taxpayer money for personal whims.  Now, with all the anti-corruption drive in government, Catholics are even beginning to ask for an accounting of their donations being held by the bishops themselves.  If PNoy wanted to be in friendly terms with the Catholic bishops, he could have just followed what former Pres Arroyo did.  Unfortunately, he and his “daang matuwid” threw that friendly collaboration between the Catholic bishops and the government away.  (As they say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.) All I can say is that PNoy has all himself to blame why many Catholic bishops will be critical of him till kingdom come.

    • simondj

      so out of revenge pala,,, e mas lalong hindi itinuro ni Kristo iyan. Vengeance is mine, says the Lord,
      kung magsasalita si Bishop bilang isang mamamayan pwede, pero kung bilang isang Pari o Bishop hindi iyan ang trabaho niya. ang trabaho ng lingkod ng Diyos ay ituro ang naging buhay ni Kristo, ano ang mga habilin at mga pangako niya at ang kanyang sakripisyo para iligtas ang tao.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002393992605 Wilfredo Villena

      Ok ba sa iyo ang bishop na tinayuan ng GARAHE ng mga sasakyan ng pari ang tabi ng KALAYAAN TREE sa patio ng Katedral ng IMMACULATA CONCEPTION  sa Malolos City. Ang mga obispo na sina Antiporda, Vidal, Almario, Tirona na pawang minahal ng parokyano ng Malolos ay hindi niyurakan ang isang simbulo ng kalayaan nating mga Pilipino.
         

  • bgcorg

    If everybody just cowtows to what Pnoy wants, where is our democracy?  How can we finetune what is a mere dream into a “realizable” reality, considering the conflicting pros and cons?   How can we weigh right from wrong and stay the course of morality and righteousness?  After all, moral responsibility is not only the Bishops’ to proclaim; it is everybody’s responsibility to keep!  And, to say that in the presence of born again Christians is like fueling religious conflict.  Naghanap pa ng kakampi!  Many wars in the world are fueled by religious intolerance.  “I may not agree with what you said, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”  Our democracy is a living witness to the safeguards of our freedoms, or so it should.  But, morality is there to remind us that we should be responsible for the consequences of our actions: this is a personal responsibility of each one.  We should all be thankful for the “voice in the wilderness” crying to make straight our paths, despite the voices of many that deny such responsibility and condemn man to a meaningless existence on earth.  Eternity awaits each person, made to the image and likeness of God.  It is sad that we cannot look beyond, where the glory of God awaits us all.  The price? “Go, sell all you have and give to the poor, and come, follow me.”  We have a choice.  But “if today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts.”

    • $23218244

      PARE JOIN THAT BISHOP IN HEEELLLL WERE YOU WILL BE PACKED BY THE DEEVIIIL.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      The bishops have every right to say what they wish.  We, OTOH, also have every right to criticize said rights, and to point out that they are being hypocritical wankers and liars.

  • noyab

    I dont think PENOY believes in GOD……wala sa gawa eh…puro dakdak or putak lang ng putak…ha ha ha

    • $23218244

      HOY PARE IPASOK MO ANG HOT DOG MO SA ANUS NI PARE OLIVARES DAMASO AT BIGYAN MO SIYA NG AIDS. PAREHO KAYONG MGA BADING.

    • johndcross1

      Ikaw ay kampon ng demonyo!  Dakdak ka ng dakdak, hayop ka!

  • $23218244

    MGA PARE ANG SARAP PALA MAG MASAHE ANG MGA PINAY. PAGKATAPOS NG MASAHE NAGMAHALAN AKO AT ANG PINAY MASAHISTA SA KAMA. GUMAMIT AKO NG CONDOM AT UMABOT KAMI SA LANGIT. KAYA DAPAT IPASA ANG RH BILL. IBASURA NA ANG MGA DAMASO.

  • $23218244

    SI BISHOP OLIVARES ANAK YAN NI SAATTTAANAAS AT NAKATIRA YAN SA IMPYERNO. ISANG DEEEMONYO YAN. SIGURO BINABANATAN NIYA ANG MGA ALTAR BOYS SA KAMA. BADING.

  • dickenhead

    look who’s talking about immorality! shameless hypocryte priests & bishops

    • mhertz

      well , in general you are talking as if it coming from your name and not from your head.

  • rocky92

    Exactly my thoughts about these bishops, not to be onion-skinned too about the controversies hounding the church!

  • johndcross1

    “He said the Aquino administration should learn to listen to criticisms from the Church because the bishops were only thinking about “the good of the majority and the country.”

    REALLY???  How about crimes committed by your priests & bishops against women & young boys?  Have we heard you criticizing your own people?  This is what you are doing, you keep so quite that nobody else will know, move the culprit from diocese to diocese leaving behind a trail of unspeakable crimes. You try to pay-off victims to be quiet.  And how about families being maintained by priest?  This is contrary to your church dogma of celibacy. 

    BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE THIS ADMINISTRATION, CLEAN-UP YOUR HOUSE FIRST!  HYPOCRITES!

  • ApoNiLolo

    Look who’s talking!! Ang galing nyong pumuna sa dumi ng iba, at pinapalabas pang makabayan ang pagiging kritiko. But when it comes to your brethens’ shortcomings, you either keep mum or in complete denial! Hypocrites!! >: (

  • nparvus1202

     Nagrereklamo si Mr. A.B. Noy pero siya pati naka wheel chair pinagtatawanan. Sisi ng sisi sa iba, pag si A.B.Noy ang nabatikos buong palasyo todo piyok.

    • $23218244

      PARE MAGSAMA KAYO NI GLORIA AT CORONA SA OSPITAL. PAREHONG NAKA WHEEL CHAIR KAYO. HINDI BOBO ANG PINOY. BOBO.

      • nparvus1202

         Macboys overtime.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edwin.arnado.5 Edwin Arnado

    Finding faults and being critical is not difficult but very easy.  For an institution like the Church, the best thing to do is to make things happen and contribute to the development and empowerment of the poor.  That is the challenge for the church to uplift the lives of their parishioners and not themselves. 

    • litobetita

      There are no other religion in the world that empowers the poor more than the catholic church. Who are running and funding the majority of those home for the aged and the “bahay ampunans”. Who are giving financial and legal assistance to runaway OFWs in countries like Taiwan, etc? in fact they are giving more than what our embassies abroad can provide to the needy. Be fair in your assessment guys…       

  • JuanTamadachi

    So Pnoy should be “thick skinned” like the Pajero/SUV bishops and Dorovo their benefactress? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    BISHOPS have NO RIGHT to INTERFERE in the GOVERNMENT specially to the PRESIDENT—-The GOVERNMENT who is TRYING to HELP the POOR CATHOLIC are CREATING have to SHOT-UP their MOUTH—-
    Do CATHOLIC CHURCH CAN GIVE PANTAWID PAMILYA?
    This MODERN DAMASSOs CAN NOT even PROVIDE CONDOMS to the POOR, because they BELIEVE CONDOMS are EVIL——-
    NO CONDOMS are NOE EVIL——-DAMASSOS are EVIL—

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

      Ang simbahan din ang tumulong para mapatalsik si Marcos kaya najan ngayon sa posisyon si Benigno Simeon. Simbahan, Ramos, Enrile ang nagpatalsik kay Marcos kaya naupo si Cory. Ngayon sabi ng mga maka Noynoy wag makialam ang simbahan. Wala sya sa posisyon nia kundi sa tulong ng simbahan dahil di magiging Pres. .Si Cory kundi sa simbahan, Ramosat Enrile.Noon lagi akong isinasama ng mga Madre para makinig sa sasabihin ni Butch Aquino. Ang sabi ng mga madre hiningi nila tulong ng isang Militar para mapatalsik si Marcos at nangako daw nman yung Militar. Ayun ang sumunod people power. kaya may naitulong ang simbahan sa pag slis kay Marcos. WALANG UTANG NA LOOB ITONG SI NOYNOY. WALANG UTANG NA LOOB. KAYA AYAN PURO BAHA AT LINDOL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        NONESENSE—

  • blainz

    It’s a two way street. Freedom of speech implies the president has as much of a right to criticize the church, as the church has to criticize the president. That includes criticizing criticisms.

    Speaking of onion-skinned, wasn’t Archbishop Vidal clamoring for NatGeo writer Brian Christy to be banned from entering the country following his exposé of an ivory idol smuggling pedophile priest?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TALIBAN TERORIST” IN THE PHILIPPINES” THEY SEND MONEY IN ROME BILLION PESOS THEY NOT PAY TAXES BE CAREFUL TO CBCP BISHOPS THEY ARE BUSINESSMAN MONSINYOR REDY NA PO PAJERO NINYO BIGAY NI GLORIA CROCODILE

    • m1600

      hehehe tama na Mr Ernie Manalo.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BISHOPS OSCAR CRUZ MUKA KANG GALUNGGONG TUMAHIMIK KA”’ ANG BAHO NG HINANGA MO BAKLA KA””

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • UrHONOR

    ONION skin is better than LEATHER that the naka-sayang puti’t helmet are so renowned for.  Example?  “Regaluhan mo ako ng SUV…yong bago ha, hindi 2nd hand (magmumukha akong POOR nyan) sa bersdey ko”.  Yan…yan ang balat-katad….sa ibang pananalita, ubod ng walang hiya….hindi marunong mahiya….ang delicadeza na sa swelas ng sapatos.

    Pero hindi na naman dapat pang magtaka o magulat ang sangbayanan sa mga pusulot ng mga naka-helmet dahil sanay-na-sanay na ang lahat sa PAKIKISAWSAW ng mga TNL na mga PLASTICUTIBUS na ito…..puti sa labas, sing-itim ng uling sa loob.  At yong puso?  Mas maitim pa kay B ng Makati.

    Gaudeamus igitur quoniam sawsaweros are back again!

  • andrew lim

    “That’s why when bishops notice something that is not right, they say it,” Bishop Oliveros said.

    I dont think so.

    1.  Monsignor Garcia found a way to go back up the Cebu hierarchy despite being dismissed by the Dominicans in the US. He continued his involvement in ivory-based statues.

    2.  The CBCP is aligning itself with the likes of Enrile, Corona, Lito Atienza, Mitos Magsaysay and Kit Tatad. The political histories of these people are hardly consistent with Christian doctrine. Read my essay on Joe America’s blog. (“Are Catholic Rightists Really Pro-Life?”)

    The CBCP will look the other way if it suits them.

    • UrHONOR

      KULANG yong sinabi ng TNL na Oliveros…….”they will say something “KUNG PAGKAKAKITAAN at MAKAKAPUTI sa suot nilang puti.  Pero kung hindi, QUIETO na lang.  Bistadong-bistado na ang istrokis ng mga manlilinlang na yan na domo-dobol na salamangkero sa kanilang mga salitang mumbo-jumbo na na-uso nung panahon pa ni Mathuselah at Julius Caesar.  Mas hubad pa sa TNL na langgonisang Pampangga ang pagka-tao ng mga TNL na mga obi$po na yan…..malaka-katad ang balat, amoy durian ang loob.

  • millie55

    yan kasi ang problema. tignan ang  statement ni bishop. these friars always have the tendency to equate the interests of the catholic church as equal to the intereststs of the Philippines. Well, it is more often not so.  they like to call themselves as the “church”. the proper thing would be to refer to themselves as the “catholic church” as opposed to the baptist church, the mormon church, the evengelical church, the 7th day adventist church , muslims, buddhists, taoists, atheists, the INC, et al. All of which have a sizable membership in Philippine society and may not always appreciate the machinations of the bishops because they may feel that the roman church representing them is not always welcome.

    • m1600

      Ano ang masama kung punahin si Simeon tignan mo yung mga ginawa nag appoint ng bagong secretary to the cabinet na duplication ng trabaho ni Ochoa buti sana kung galing sa BULSA nya ang ipapasahod jan kay almendras eh galing sa tax ng taong bayan yan parehas ni CARANDANG mga useless na appointment. ano saya mo?

    • litobetita

      Like the other religion who always say they are christian as if they are the only one? The bishops don’t intend to represent the groups that you mentioned but the catholic church which of course whether you like it or not is the majority. They have these obligations to protect their “flock” and to preserve values which in this case is “life” and “morality”. We are in a democratic country and we are all entitled to our opinions and we have the right to express what we think. The “priests and bishops” are not elected and we consider them as our teacher, our father, our guide and as catholics, we have to listen to what they say and what they teach for it is our belief….it is our fundamental right too. On the contrary, the government are elected officials – They are our servant and representatives. The problem is that our representative don’t consult us on what we want but all the things that they are doing is what they think that we want which of course is not always and more often is not what we want. This is also the same with the people who always put words in our mouth saying that 75 percent favors this RH Bill, etc… when in fact there is no concrete evidence that suggest so.

  • Fulpol

    B.S. Aquino III and Catholic Church have the same behavior…. if you are against them, they will attack you incessantly…

    Catholic Church for hundreds years, developed a strong immunity shield against criticism… B.S. Aquino III still wallowing on his emotional instability… easily irritated, impulsive and insecure.

    • panaloangtotoo2

      Relax Fulpol…nagiging kamukha mo na si Brenda — mukhang ikaw ang may emotional instability! Bwahahaha

      • Fulpol

        i don’t know my friend, I just shake the hand of Obama…

        while your beloved President is still clueless why…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IS6KI2U7EDZS6D2Q7MZ3Z6CAME Lila

    the church have not solve immorality for decades.. even centuries.. why do we have to listen to them now? government must act to what is actionable.. the problem with the church is they only wants us to suffer so we will go to church give alms to them.. pathetic

  • pilipino

    Oliveros said that Catholic prelates would not simply look away if they notice “mistakes committed by the President or his subordinates.”

    But did the Catholic Church lift a finger or said anything against Gloria’s policies before and the rampant corruption prevailing during the past regime? Wala! Kasi natapalan ng donasyon at mga SUV. Namihasa yata tong mga pari at obispong ito, masyadong maaga magparinig tungkol sa pamasko. Iba na ngayon boy, you won’t get those perks from PNoy for sure.

    Or is this a concerted move by the Catholic hierarchy because of the rumored shift of PNoy to becoming more of a Christ-believing Christian and less and less of being a Roman Catholic?

  • boybakal

    Bishop tells Aquino: Don’t be onion-skinned….maybe the Bishop is saying Pnoy is onion skinned but thick face.

  • boyod

    Pare OLIVA mabuting na yung onion-skinned kisa katulad nyong mga ipokritong Bishop na leather-faced, sabi pa nga ni “UrHonor” EPAL hindi tinatablan kahit million na sampals mga BAKLA at Phedopiles, ano ba hindi na ba kayo tinatablan ng hiya ginagamit nyo pang kalasag ang mga Salita ng DIYOS.- – – HYPOCRITES DAMASO

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

    ibig sabihin ni bishop— sa ibang salita,wag manipis  si Pnoy…dapat makapal ng konti…tulad lang ng ginawa nila ng humingi at tanggapin yung mga pajeros…

  • Ommm

    The Philippines is one of the last vestiges of the catholic church for good reason…. far removed from the progressive societies of the USA and Europe the reality of thousands of disgraced child molesting priests just doesn’t hit home. The church here can still discuss morality without making listeners choke on the hypocrisy of their preachings.

    The high ratio of poor and uneducated are ripe targets for their rhetoric, which hasn’t changed a lot since the Inquisition. Although they can no longer torture and execute disbelievers their methods have now evolved into a more insidious form of extortion of free will through terror of the unknown……   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    panot kasi siya kaya onion skinned,pero pag nag hair transplant siya, iba na ang dating, magiging macho at hindi na mukhang sakitin.

  • elimsqui

    Father you mean to the church is the government? 80% favored the RH bill…

  • xrisp

    Mr President, who is in the best position to remind you what is moral and immoral? Let our concsience have some works to do and let it not stagnate.

    • manny

      define conscience.

  • 12JEM

    The honest arrogance of PNoy is more preferable than the hypocrtical posturings of many bishops and priests.

    Si Arguelles ng Lipa wala nang nakitang magandang ginaawa si PNoy. Sa halip na tumulong sa bayan walang ginagawa kundi daldal lamang.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ulpiano-Jotojot/100002633802776 Ulpiano Jotojot

      Bishop Arturo M. Bastes of Sorsogon who is an advocate of Homosexual Rights is a card bearing member of LADLAD has always attacked P-NOY on all issues particularly  on RH BILL…..Madaldal…isang LOBO  nagpakunwaring TUPA !

      • ahemmm

        Pigilan mo na nga yang kadaldalan u Ulpiana :)

      • manny

        Really, show proof.  you are madaldal urself.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XSHWGLY25MTOGUZUIBF5JT5BZI pdred

    Who is being onion-skinned here?

    • ever green

      hahahaa…. oo nga ano….

  • Jomex

    i dont mind the Bishops rant againsts PNOy. we are a free country with freedom of speech. PNoy has the right to hear what the bishops has to say. the problem here, as millie55 said, the bishops “equate the interests of the catholic church as equal to the interests of the (rest) of the  Philippines.” we have a reactionary catholic church that is increasingly becoming belligerent at every turn. they have reasons to be wary because they are increasingly losing control, or the illusion of control, of their faithful. but Filipinos are smarter now, not all Filipinos consider the words of the bishops are infallible. this is a good thing because it means Filipinos are thinking for themselves! no longer mental slaves of the Bishops.

    yes the bishops can rant and scream all they want. but is everyone listening or obeying??

    • manny

      Well maybe because they don’t fully understand their Catholic faith.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_26BA6W344SPNT7SP3PLACAGXBI Blue_Crimson

    Bishop Oliveros needs to be administered multiple shots of Ritalin and be detained at a mental institution due to severe hallucinations that the so-called Catholic Christian “God” is talking to him.

    • manny

      How qualified are you to recommend this?  Are you a psycho yourself? oh sorry, i mean to say, are you a psychologist?  

      • reddfrog

        I have several units of psychology. And ai would say you have a bad case of bishop hard-on. Maybe because you were raped by a clergyman and you liked it.

      • mhertz

        ksp ka lang, kaya ayan ang atake mo..lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ulpiano-Jotojot/100002633802776 Ulpiano Jotojot

    The CBCP should focus on addressing the issues of Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Immorality, Corruption and Double Standards within the Catholic church hierarchy. We have pot bellied Bishops and Priests who are arrogant, immoral,over-materialistic and no longer practising the biblical and christian virtues of poverty,chastity,modesty and spirituality.

    • DOUANE

      Very well said.

    • ever green

      agree. 

    • manny

      You know this is rehash and a commonplace argument but is really out of the point.  You can be sure though that the church is currently instituting reforms along this line.  They learn and listen too, you know.  Stop being bias.  

      • reddfrog

        Unless they institute reforms then they have no moral authority to lecture others. Gets mo?

  • JJF724

    CBCP said President of the Republic of the Philippines is just their subbordinates and should listen to them…  dah….  hilo talilong na ang mga ito.

    • manny

      kelan nila sinabi yan brod?  mas okay kung i-embed mo un link d2 kung saan mo nabasa yan.  otherwise, i will treat that as guni-guni of someone coming from Australia.  Right, mate?  : b

    • levis2012

       Naghahari-hariang Relihiyon eh puro naman baluktot ang mga Doktrina at halos lahat kontra sa Bibliya!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    Pnoy has no speech without criticizing GMA or the previous administration. He should be ready also to accept criticism.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    Kung gusto nia na walang criticism, mag resign sia. E, si Arroyo nga eh, noong bagong upo sa pwesto , inulan ng batikos,eh. PAG Pres. ka ihanda mo sarili mo sa batikos! Dahil sina Marcos Estrada , Arroyo ay halos nadurog sa batikos. Mamili si Noynoy resign o batikos? Kung maka batikos sya sa mga kalaban nia sa pulitika , todo! Totoo rin naman na may ginagawa syang tama pero may mga mali din sya.

  • louie

    i don’t think the CBCP was critical enough to the Arroyo Admin. With the cars given to them, for a good cause or for their personal leisure, it’s enough for them to keep a mediocre stance back then.

    • levis2012

       Na-bribed kaya hindi critical mga Obispo sa panahon ni GMA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KNAE4AZW7H7MYEDS2JDLQIBFP4 edward

    I dont understand why these bishops keep meddling in politics. 

    • manny

      well try to understand and make research.

      • reddfrog

        They want power and pajeros. Ahahahahahaha!

    • mhertz

      oo tama, mag research ka, huwag kang makinig sa pulang kokak, pero cynism lang kc at ksp..lol

  • ever green

    “CRITICAL COLLABORATION” wow. ang gagaling magsalita tong mga bishop na to…..Kung tutuusin, wala silang pinagkaiba sa mga militante. Di naman talaga nakakatulong..

  • gudwil2all

    you don’t have to be catholic to be a christian jose,
    most catholics don’t even know how to be a christian

    • mhertz

      eh kung muslim kaya? puede ding maging Christian? Aminin may mga Christians pangalan  lang at wala sa gawa. Naninira pa nga sa ibang faith makakuha lang ng members.  At lalong huwag i-deny there is only one and Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Yung iba diyan gumagawa ng kanya-kanyan interpretasyon ng bible at nagtayo ng kanilang sariling simbahan. Sino kaya may akda at may sugo sa kanila? Ang dami na kc di mo alam kung sino nagsasabi ng totoo.Lahat sila tama, pero iba-iba naman ang kanilang interpretasyon sa Bibliya na galing naman sa Katoliko. Hay buhay parang life.

  • boybakal

    Pnoy is the exact opposite of his mom, Tita Cory.
    A very religious woman, always with rosary and always in the church.
    Pnoy never seen kneel and praying even in foto ops.

    • reddfrog

      Pnoy has more sense than lick the behinds of your filthy bishops.

  • dragon27

    I wonder who’s being onion-skinned?

    The President who took a swipe against the bishops, or the bishops who were swiped in the President’s speech and who’re now reacting that the President should not be onion-skinned?

    Maybe both.

    • Luiting

      pareho tayo ng vibes kabayan…

  • freaksmoker

    Why are filipinos too preoccupied with petty things? This issue will not even help the economy. Take the case of the Bureau of Customs for example. Smuggling has increased from 3.1 billion in Erap’s time to 3.8 billion in GMA’s time, and now 19.6 billion in PNoy’s only 2 years reign, and this is based on IMF’s Direction of Trade Statistics. How can PNoy expect to balance the budget or at least service the ballooning foreign debts which is now 5 trillion dollar plus, when BOC cannot even fulfill it’s collection quota? Instead of solving smuggling BOC conveniently decreased their quarterly target. No wonder why Ruffy Biazon is no longer interested in running for the Senate. And, PNoy expects the bishops to praise him to high heavens? Yellows are just too happy to accommodate such journalistic trash to hide the administration’s contemptuous regime. I can’t even understand PDI glorifying such garbage when they practically chastised PNoy in their editorial. Incredible!

  • tilamsik

    hypocrites!!!!! 

    • manny

      who?  if you include yourself, am okay with that.

    • reddfrog

      You forgot rapists and pedophiles.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    Kaya ayan panay ang baha, at lindol puro sisihan at turuan. Mula ng maging Pres. Si Noynoy lalong gumulo sisihan turuan, murahan! Pag ganyan ang kalagayan ng bansa ibig sabihin angmPresidente ay di effective. Sa mga pari naman sana ang mga paring nagkakamali ay parusahan. May mga pari na maluho. Minsan sa ibang bansa makikita mo ang mga tao nila mayaman, tahimik, malinis na paligid mga batang magaganda damit. Sa Pilipinas ano? Ang inuuna ng Pres. ay paghihiganti sa mga kalaban. kung i trato mga kalaban ay parang PRISONERS OF WAR. kaya pag nakikita ko ang buhay ng ibang bansa like Singapore, Hong Kong, Switzerland nalulungkot ako, sana ganito rin sa Pilipinas.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ROHE5UZ4CGDKA34F7LCVAARLCQ Leonardo

      PARANG TULOG NA TULOG ka kung mag-comment ka – si PNoy ay hindi naghihiganti kay GMA, at wala naman siyang dapat ipaghiganti. ang ginagawa ni PNoy ay siyasatin ang mga maling ginawa ni GMA – hindi ito paghihiganti. PAZ, gumising ka at dilat mo ang iyong mga mata, at alisan mo ng muta.

      • manny

        Ikaw din Leonardo  : )

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

        Wag mo akong gisingin ! Siyasatin ang maling ginawa ni GMA , si Padaca na may plunder case ay piniyansahan nia! Inilagay pa mandin sa Comelec. Yan ba ang galit sa corruption? Pag kakampi kahit may kaso pipiyansahan pa pero pag kalaban di pa nalilitis arestado na. kaya wag mo akong gisingin. Noong patalsikin nina Arroyo at Cory si Estrada isang truck ang dokumento at sa dami naman ng testigo laban kay Estrada so napatalsik nila si Estrada. After few yrs. Nag sorry si Mrs.Aquino kay Estrada , Nagkamali lang daw sila sa pagpapatalsik kay Estrada. Kaya wag mo akong gisingin.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KQ3K26JQ2SJU5KH3JZTTYCWD6I Yeni

      I don’t think the leaders are the problem in our case. Marami na ang nagdaang presidente. Some of the good ones managed to bring the country up a bit pero wala ring nangyari. Hindi naging sustainable and mga reforms. I think we need to get of this box we’re in now and start thinking, what can we do as individual Filipino citizens ? Pwede naman nating linisin ang paligid kahit walang gobyerno di ba ? Pano kung lahat ng Pilipino, damputin niya at ibasura lahat ng madaanan niyang kalat, o di ba malinis ang paligid ? And as far as who the best leader would be for the country, why don’t we go back to ourselves as well, why don’t we start honoring those who are in the posts right now ? Don’t you think that when everyone, both in government and as individuals, would honor the leaders, then trust will flow and true, sustainable reforms will follow after that ? I think so. And I say to all my kababayan’s stop pushing the problems to someone else, akuin na natin ang mga ito at simulan natin ang pagbabago sa ating mga sarili ! Onward Philippines ! 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

        Tama ka kailangan magbago ang mga Filipino. PERO MAHIRAP i honor ang leader na may tinitingnan at may tinititigan. Gusto ko sa leader ay Fair. Hanggat may nakikita akong unfairness at dishonesty, sorry di kita matatanggap. Di ako naging loyal kahit kaninong Presidente. Loyal ako sa bansa ko!Presidents just come and go. Ang bansa ko mananatili habang panahon.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KQ3K26JQ2SJU5KH3JZTTYCWD6I Yeni

        Marami tayong gusto. Pero ang tingin ko e hindi kagustuhan ang kailangan natin ngayon. There are 94mil Filipinos with different kagustuhan. Me pakaliwa, me pakanan, me pababa at me pataas. Kung focused tayo sa gusto, tingin ko wala tayong mararatnan. There just has to be one direction if we want to move the ship named Philippines. And that direction will have to be agreed upon by everybody whether we like it or not. Saying we’re loyal to the country and not to the president does not make sense. The Philippines will not get anywhere if this is the kind of attitude we have. Kung totoong mahal mo ang bansa natin, swallow your pride, support the leader the country has chosen at maglayag na tayo towards the future. Tama na ang paggugrupo grupo. Magkaisa na tayo para man lang sa kapakanan ng mga anak natin.

  • elvisaya

    ang hilig talaga makialam ng mga letse na yan…bat di na lang kaya sila ang mamuno

  • Magsasaka

    if i were the president i will reply with this: and don’t be a pajero, bring to justice your rapist priests, return the pajeros

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    Critical collaboration? Immorality? Well, here comes another Damaso again. What does he know about these words?  What gall. There ‘s no critical collaboration between  GMA  and CBCP.  It’s only collaboration, plain and simple. Scratch mine and I’ll scratch yours. The fruits of collaboration? Pajeros, Monteros, pick-up trucks, and money given to them by GMA. And don’t you hypocrite bishop know? That’s immorality, plain and simple.   

  • virgoyap

    There’s only one reason why bishops are critical to him it’s because of the RH bill period.

  • ahemmm

    Do you know of other things than just Pajeros? There is more good things than the parejos that lingering in your mind… then, i’ll scratch yours. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QZZKXPEA67I7HELEIYM35QVYFA Jon

    Nagpahapyaw nanaman ang hitad?
    Palibhasa magaling magpasaring kasi kulang sa pagkalalake para sabihan ng diretso.
     

  • virgo8888

    kung ayaw nya sa bishops, pabinyag na lang sya ke eddie villanueva, pareho lang naman silang me pagka abnoy

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    “He said the Aquino administration should learn to listen to criticisms
    from the Church because the bishops were only thinking about “the good
    of the majority and the country.”

    I don’t think so. More likely, the RC church is thinking about the good of Vatican. The Church should better severe it’s critical collaboration with the administration and totally stop meddling and interfering in the affairs of government.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN, RYAN !

    • mhertz

      you just have to say that again and again, specially during the time of Marcoses!!!

  • TheSmilingBandit

    “The issue on RH bill is a clear violation of the Church’s teachings because this will result in immorality,”Oliveros said.

    Exodus 12:29 At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.

    Yes I can see it now, the LORD thy GOD can murder hundreds or thousands of children who are already BORN, yet his CHURCH claims the the LORD their GOD is a kindly and loving GOD who is PRO-LIFE.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NPV7TOHIJPG3UMTLQDTHLQJR7Y Jack

      Don’t interpret the bible, the bible will interpret itself. God, being the Creator, can do what He wants to do with His creations.

      • reddfrog

        How will the bible interpret itself?

      • TheSmilingBandit

        ROFL so you are saying that God is both Good and Evil, and that we his creations, have no say, no freedom of thought, no independence.

        Seems to be contrary to Jesus’s sayings isn’t it?

  • bertpogoy

    What is the cause of immorality in the church? Priests don’t use contraceptives

    • billy gunner

       you’re not getting it, iho. i sugest you join the other forms coz it seems you can;t follow the lines here! lol

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      Yes , I know many priests who have kids! WHAAAA!

  • geminimind

    In onion there is a strenght although it makes your tears flow when you chopped it,eat a lot of it and you smell like it.Speak for your self when you criticize otherwise you get involved with a group that’s already on fire.Learn to criticize yourself first before you criticize others to avoid greater fire.fire for fire until that ego is consumed by it.

  • EdgarEdgar

    The Roman Catholic Church is hardly perfect but so is our president. In fact, Noynoy is simply too immature to take any criticism constructively. Anyone who’s worked with him closely speaks of his legendary tantrums whenever he encounters opposition, rejection or objection. He’s too sensitive and often takes offense too easily at the slightest of slights. He can blame it all on his unhappy childhood and uneasy relationship with his dad but he is no longer a kid. Noynoy’s father passed away a long long time ago to still cast a shadow on his moods and attitude. When Nonoy ran for the presidency, he should have read the fine print carefully and understood what he was signing up for. In a democracy like ours, it is not only every citizen’s privilege but also everyone’s obligation to point out the shortcomings of our public officials. Presiding over 95 million Filipinos is by no means an easy task. If Noynoy is not up for the job, he can’t just quit halfway like his late father had always taunted him. At 52, Noynoy has to learn to let go of all that baggage if he does not wish to be taken lightly. Or maybe that’s the problem. Noynoy is nothing without his baggage.

  • Luiting

    Bishop… if Pnoy prefers to air his grudge against the going-across-the-line priests (mind you, not the church) to born-again Christians or other denominations.. he is free to do so, anyway Philippines is a free country (di bala?). If you think his actuation would imply that he is being sensitive or onion-skinned.. then why are you affected? Wasn’t your reaction (defense mechanism ba?) could also suggest that you are also being onion-skinned?.
    Church was in “critical collaboration with the government, and vise-versa.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      The BISHOPS, repeat BISHOPS, I would say all of them are CORRUPT & GREEDY !. They always criticise  President Aquino  because he never gives them money and gifts and LUXURY CARS! GLORIA has been the worst president yet they never criticised her. WHY ? guess you are more informed than me. MGA MASISIBANG OBISPO ! Padre Damaso is alive again in the persons of these HYPOCRITE BISHOPS & PRIESTS ! natatandaan ba ninyo ng hindi payhagan ang bangkay ni Ginang Aquino malagak sa Sto Domingo church ?  UTOS YON NI GLORIA at  BULAG AT BINGI NA SUMUNOD ANG MGA ALAGAD DAW NG DIYOS. SUSMARYOSEP !  NAKAKAHIYA! ALAGAD NG PERA MAS BAGAY !

      • litobetita

        Puro akusasyon, walang proof. If it is so that they are corrupt, and you have enough evidence, why don’t you go to court? This is pure hearsay and I sense pure hatred from you against the church. Cory Aquino as far as I know is a devout  Catholic, she died a catholic and forever a catholic. Her belief was never tainted despite of being the president of the Republic thus she governed with her heart and which up to now, we appreciate.  

  • hedrianvic

    interesado pala sa politica itong mga kumags na mga obispong ito, ba’t d sila tumakbo sa ano mang elective position ang gusto nag CBCP. we’ll see f they will get elected.

    we’ll see f there is really a roman catholic vote these bishops have been bragging about.

    pero bigyan lang nang PAJERO or MONTERO ang Obispong Romano Catoliko at tatahimik yan, maski kurotin mo pa sa bugan.. peks man!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    malamang itong paring ito gusto na namang manghingi ng SUVsa pcso kaya nagpapapansin…siguro lapit na ng bertdey…

  • El_Gran_Capitan

    And you should stick with your diminishing flocks, do not interfere with government affair, linisin nyo muna ang sarili nyong bakuran

  • kilabot

    the bishop is off. noykapon is not onion-skinned but rather skinless. in addition to brainless. but i must admit he is a mouthful.

    • disqusted0fu

      agree. in almost every speech of Aquino, he always has to attack someone. must be because he doesnt have much to say as far as developments in the country and his achievements. so he disguises that through his attacks. his been doing this for 3 years now and it has become very predictable. change has to happen soon.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    Kung ayaw ng batikos mag resign hindi sya KAWALAN mabubuhay kami na wala sya!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    Lahat ng naging Pres. bugbog sarado sa batikos kaya ihanda ni Pres. Sarili nia salagin na lang nia pag natapos ang term nia wala na yan. Hanggat Pres. sya di matitigil ang batikos. Yan ang price to pay pag nasa pwesto ka. Isa na ako sa bumabatikos.

  • Andres_Bagumbayan

    Mukhang pinalaki ni Ginang Cory ang kanyang unico iho na hindi marunong tumanggap ng batikos o puna kung ang ginagawa nito ay hindi alinsunod sa iba…Hoy Noynoying,hindi ka Mahusay at matinong Pangulo para hindi ka punahin o batikusin ng iyong nasasakupan…Tulad ka din ng mga nagdaang PANGULO na pulpol at kurap!!!

    Huwag mong akalain na lahat ng iyong ginagawa ay tama at marapat!!! Kadalasan nga eh,puro sablay ang iyong mga gawa at salita!!!

    • Francis81

      Ganyan talaga ang mga mama’s boy na spoiled brat. Gusto nila sila lang ang tama at ang lahat ng gusto nila ay nakukuha nila.  Tingnan natin kung uubra ang pagka spoiled brat ni Pweenoy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

    Its a two way street.

    You can criticize, also prepared to be criticized.

    If you want people to listen to your ideas, you should also be tolerant enough to also listen to their ideas.

    That is how a democratic society works.

  • NiJuSan

    it just goes to show na immature ang president. tsk tsk tsk.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Why is the Bishop calling President Aquino onion-skinned?

    Onion-skinned people are overly sensitive just like the foreskin or prepuce. The Bishop is saying that President Aquino is acting like a sensitive foreskin. In short, the Bishop is calling President Aquino supot. If President Aquino can have his circumcision anytime soon, he can deep fry his foreskin like onion ring and send it to the Bishop as a courtesy. As to whether President Aquino will be brave enough to undergo the procedure is another big if.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T42Q37DX5BRWJ5NRYTBC2DXUAU Jols – batman Robin

    sobrang pakialamero na kc ng simbahang ito….kala mo kung cno clang malinis… sa lahat ng religion kayo ang pina ka corrupt….. d naman pang mahirap ung mga eskwelahan ninyo….. sa 100 na pari ngayon isa lng ung mabait at tunay na naglilingkod sa dios….. pasinsya na…

  • brunogiordano

    “The issue on RH bill is a clear violation of the Church’s teachings because this will result in immorality,”Oliveros said. 

    “yan ang paniwala ninyo.

    subalit 82% sa atin ay hindi naniniwala diyan.

    ang mga PILIPINO ay may mga sariling paniwala kaya huwag ninyong isalaksak ang inyo paniwala sa mga baga namin. nagiging OBVIOUS AT HALATA  na kayo ay mga FUNDAMENTALIST FANATICS.

    mas marami na ngayon katoliko ay PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL CATHOLICS na at gumagamit na ng CONTRACEPTIVES at very clear na hayagan hindi sinusunod ang CHURCH’S teaching.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Will the Bishop and President Aquino ever reconcile?

    President Aquino is clearly into boys as confirmed by Shalani Soledad and Grace Lee. The Bishop is clearly into altar-boys in keeping with church traditions. The two have a strong common ground which can serve as the basis for a long-lasting relationship. Will President Aquino be into the Bishop or vice versa? Only God knows.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

    The more these Catholic Bishops talk, the more they sow “tares”. They are showing their true colors when their “interests” are deprived of support from people because of political reforms.

  • brunogiordano

    “Even if I’m still just about to open my mouth, they’re already
    criticizing me. Maybe they’re the ones who give me the chance to prove
    that I’m a Christian,” Aquino said in Filipino, eliciting applause from
    those present. 

    kaya ba nagagalit ang mga BISHOPS ng CBCP ay hayagan ng sinasabi ng PANGULO na siya ay isang born again CHRISTIANS na at hindi na CATHOLIC?????

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Why does President Aquino dislike the church and the Bishop?

    President Aquino dislikes the church and the Bishop because he saw how his mother Cory sacrificed so much of herself in order to carry on an affair with the Cardinal Sin. Despite Cardinal Sin’s insatiable appetite for all things flesh, he never took a serious look at President Aquino. After so many years, President Aquino still bears that scar deep down inside.

    • Francis81

       Ang alam ko sundalo ang mga type ni Pweenoy e. Nahuli nga yan sa Malakanyang Park nun na may ginagawang milagro sa isang sundalo.

  • EOJ

    Mga damaso wala kayong pinagkaiba sa mga senador at congressmen na bulig, pipi, at bingi sa mga kawalanghiyaan ng kabaru nila. Tell us on your actions taken on sex offenders and pedophile priests as well as the pajero bishops. Your credibility is sinking like your favorite corrupt devotee gloria arroyo.

  • yonoh

    lipat ka na lang sa jesus is lord…………..pinoy para ala na nang problema ang mga katoliko………….o kaya sa iglesia ni manalo…………..

  • artz555

    The statement of the Bishop that the Church and the PH government are in a  ‘ critical collaboration ‘ is actually wrong, simply because of the ‘Separation of the Church and State ‘ provision that is enshrined in the Philippine constitution. Until the constitution is amended, the Church or any other religion are free to  express their opinion, but the Pres. is not obligated to follow their recommendations.

    Saying that the bishops are against the RH bill because they are only thinking about ‘ the good of the majority and the country ‘, is also misleading and irresponsible. First of all, the majority or 75 % of the Filipino’s are in favor of the passage of an RH bill in Congress simply because rich and poor Filipino’s would like to raise small families because of the high costs of living, like food and housing, nowadays. 

    Secondly, the non-passage of the RH bill in the past decade or so, has only brought pain and suffering to most Filipinos especially the poor. This is so because unplanned higher populations are usually accompanied by crowded cities, the rise of the unemployed and the under-employed, the increase in crime with more people getting hungry year after year,  etc. etc.  And the limited resources of the government won’t be able to cope with more people’s needs of education, housing, jobs etc.

    If PH continues with this path of no RH bill passed by congress, PH will continue to suffer with lower and lower standards of living for years to come, with more and more people sharing a smaller and smaller piece of the GDP pie. Also, it will be left further and further behind in quality of life because of low per capita GDP, compared to the more progressive countries in Asia and the developed world who have been enjoying higher standards of living with high GDP’s and low populations.

    • riccisan

      agreed

    • litobetita

      “Majority or 75 % of the Filipino’s are in favor of the passage of an RH bill in Congress”? Who says so?   

      • artz555

        Check the surveys conducted on the Filipino people in regards to the RH  bill which reported that majority of Filipinos are in favor of an RH Bill passage in the PH Congress. The figure could have been 65 %, but around that figure or more, is a majority. If you don’t believe in these figures and the surveys, that’s you’re prerogative. Nobody can force you to believe.

  • Gerald Abueva

    Much ado about nothing. Pareho namang bakla si Abnoy at si Bishop. Magkiskisan na lang sila at make out, tapos bati na sila. Parehong happy, parehong pupunta ng langit.

  • Kamoteng_Dilaw

     excommunicate nyo na yang abnoy na yan. bawal din lang sa simbahan ang kapon. nakakahiyang pag-uugali, ayaw mo ng kritisismo e sablay ka naman, walang modo sa bishop at simbahan. magpalit ka muna ng relihiyon bago ka bumira…

    • Francis81

      Di na kailangan i excomunicate si Pweenoy, di naman sumisimba yan lalo na hindi naniniwala sa Diyos yan Komunista kasi yan!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    Many people also criticized President (Ferdinand) Marcos and Gloria (Arroyo). (Aquino) should not be onion-skinned,” Oliveros said in an interview.

    Is it providential that the bishop cites these 2 past presidents as examples?  Thick faced pachyderms as Sen. Santiago would say, and look where having such kind of presidents has led us to.

  • oh_noh

    criticize the president or anybody else…
    so that they will go to the church, pray (and make their donations bigger) and they shall be forgiven!

  • disqusted0fu

    Aquino does not let anyone off the hook, even bishops. thats what happens when we dont have mental fitness as part of the qualifications for running as president.

    • Magsasaka

       ganon ba parang noong panahon ni pandakekak hindi rin pinaligtas ang mga damasong bishop pati sila nakurap hehehe

  • Maitum

    nasanay na yan sila sa panahon pa ng mga prayle na lahat ng utu in nila at pagtawanan ay walang magawa. hanggang ngayon utak prayle pa rin. kaya maraming mga holy child ngayon dahil anak sila ng pari…leave that spanish habit in the dustbin…be fair…

    • Alejandro Canda

      I strongly disagree to bishop Oliveros’ statements that what they are doing in RH bill is for the good of the country. They are just protecting their interest for continued surge of offerings out of the ceremonials such as baptisms, weddings, and burials that give them enormous incomes. Their hidden contention is that the less people, the less income. With RH bill, their big incomes are in jeopardy. 

      • jenny lim

         …garbage logic.

  • Ivideo

    “Aquino should listen to the criticisms from the Church because the bishops won’t stop until you give them pajeros”

    • Francis81

      Ayan na naman kayo sa mga imbento niyo. Wala namang pajero binigay sa mga obispo a? Inutusan lang ni Pweenoy si Marge Juico na siraan ang mga obispo palibhasa Komunista yang Pweenoy na yan!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

    kayo naman mitsubishops…. si pwenoy me sapak sa hutak yan… pag bigyan niyo na

    sensitive talaga ang mga me sapak sa hutak tulad ng mga bipolar, schizo, mongolydics 

  • Cal_Reznick

    Big baby crying a river as usual. Ok i don’t mean to be too harsh but sometimes one can’t help but notice that the President acts so un-presidential. Always complaining, and blaming, and pointing fingers, and making excuses etc.. etc..etc..

    But i suppose we can’t be to harsh on him because in reality, he never intended to be President. Its just his personal situation somewhat forced him into the forefront of the Presidency in which he was able to be elected via sympathy vote.

    All we can do now is pray and hope and support the President hoping that he be always Presidential making decisions that is best for the country. He’s half-way through so it would be best for him to start accomplishing some major good for the PI.

    • http://www.facebook.com/donski.chew Donski Chew

      for your information marami na po nagawa ang gobyerno ni aquino,  credit ratings upgrade from s&p, moodys is enough para tapatan ang lahat ng nagawang mabuti (kung meron)  ni GLORIA for 9 years.

      • Francis81

         Ayon sa SWS lumala ang unemployment sa 3rd quarter ng 29.4%, mas maraming naghihirap at nagugutom.  Sana ang mga nagawang mabuti ni Pweenoy? PWEE!!!

      • marionics

        tagal kasi ng rh bill e he he

      • http://twitter.com/alfs_alfs Pons Corpuz

        Magtrabaho ka kasi para maramdaman mo. Puro reklamo lang ang alam mo…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        wala nga raw trabaho, eh? read back the post….

      • marionics

        di mo matitinag yan kasi yan ang manikurista ni gma hahaha

      • Cal_Reznick

        So the basis of your argument that he’s done good is from some rating??

        Please tell me what that rating really means for the Philippines? Or did you just see that from some article and are arbitrarily regurgitating it as an example??

        Explain, how that particular rating has benefited the country??? Because last time i checked no rating put food on anyone’s table nor has a rating put a roof over a homeless person’s head.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000438848138 Rafael Tupas

      Grabe…….do you know that Pres. Aquino has made this once great nation get back on it’s feet? 
      Of course there will be lots of issues because he’s cleaning out the Government. It’s like your computer’s anti-virus, taking up memory space which causes lag, and then the user to lose patience.

      • Cal_Reznick

        Maybe you’re right…coz he’s pretty much half-way thru his term and things are still lagging. Yup…Filipinos are starting to lose patience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donski.chew Donski Chew

    bigyan na lang ng mitsubishi at sapalan na kasi ng pera ang mga bibig nila para tumahimik na.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UA2YLCJLAQEVVGBTIZBHEGKB3Q jimmya

    It is only now that the church won’t be silent if they see mistakes in the Pnoy administration but, during GMA, they were always silent and they did not see wrong with the left and right corruption in her government.  Or because they can’t have a pajero or SUV under this leadership.  The time to show that they walk their talk has already passed and people are getting tired of them.  Now that this administration is showing a political will to destroy the corrupt empire/association built by GMA and her minions, including these God’ people kuno, they are talking of not being silent.  They just woke up to their sweet slumber?

  • Francis81

    Pano maging onion-skin ang kapal nga ng mukha ng Pweenoy na yan! Baka me period lang nun kaya sensitive.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Given the choice between onion skinned to khaphalmuks culture the kind not paying taxes but badmouths the loudest, I will choose being onion skinned anytime.

  • No Mind

    kahit anu pong relihiyon ang puntahan nyo mr. president, di pa rin po mawawala ang talamak na problema ng pamahalaan natin. ang pinaka maganda pong gagawin ng isang halal na pinuno ng bansa ay basahin at unawain ang buong biblia hindi yung magtatanung pa kayo sa mga church leaders. lahat naman yan puro diskriminasyon ang alam. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFCVCFVNTKFNRY33IERRNV4REQ Hazel

    Daan daang taon na tayong pinakiki-alamanan ng Simbahang Katoliko, mula noon hanggang ngayon, ganito parin tayo. Bangkarote sa lahat ng aspeto (Moral, Finacial, Political).

    Tama na Padre Damaso! Layuan nyo na kami mga demonyo kayo! letche!

    • mhertz

      pag di nabago sa turo ng simbahan dahil hindi naman sumusunod sa turo, eh sino may kasalanan nun?Ang simbahan pa rin? Why can’t people take responsibility of its own wrongdoings and actions. Just being real here.

  • basilionisisa

    If I were PNoy I would just IGNORE the CBCP, never read about them, never talk about them, never mention them in any forum to show them how IRRELEVANT they are in this country. He should not waste any more time to these supporters of Corona, GMA and the Ampatuans. He should tell his Press Secretaries to totally BYPASS any comments from them, good or bad. He should DO, instead, his best effort to make Congress pass the RH Bill into Law, a big slap in their fat faces. It would be one of his best achievements and legacy to this country.

  • Jimbox88

    Kung ito sana na mga Obispo ang tinututukan pag tuturo ng sa Bibliya, baka pa dadami ang matino sa Pinas. Di ung pakiki alam sa pulitika!

    Or baka kailangan din SUV para tumahimik!

  • alex_diaz2014

    Amalayer? Amapique? Amaplagarist? Amabitchop? SUV lang ang katapat ng mga bishop para balik sa dati, taga sang-ayon lang kay Pnoy… Tingnan nyo nung panahon ni GMA, kahit kaliwa’t kanan ang kurakot, ang patayan at ang human rights violation, okay na okay sa mga bishop kasi hindi nananakit ang mga likod nila kasi naka-SUV sila…

    • abner

       ganun??

  • pabulaka

    “He should be ready for that. Our former presidents were also subjected to criticisms. Many people also criticized President (Ferdinand) Marcos and Gloria (Arroyo). Yes, the people but not the bishops. They even sanctioned the stealing of the votes with the remarks, “everybody does that”.

  • leadyourself

     If the church wants to play politics, it’s time the church paid taxes.

    • mhertz

      it does, so with its church supporters they both pay taxes. Just  check with the BIR.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3JE7N7OH2CEUMDTVXRCFXGMXRM Lord Nelson

    just like the priests in the time of Jesus,these bishops would like to dictate the government leaders according to their interpretation of the Laws. Since the Dark Ages until this times they never change and never will. Pnoy, just be ready to be crucified anytime… But I salute you for standing for what is right though the heavens fall.

    • abner

       naku hindi na po uso ngaun ang nagdi dictate..kase modern time na ngaun…sa china nalang pala…haha

  • AntonioPeYangIII

    FYI, Oliveros was one of the bishops who recently voiced his support for plagiarist and all-around scumbag Tito Sott. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

       Ito pala si Oliveros ang sipsip boto ni GMA, ENRILE AND SOTTO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    Hoy mga Damasong kuhpal wag kayo makialam sa pagpapatakbo ng gobyerno, manghingi lang ng abuloy ang alam ninyo. You have no monopoly of wisdom, of what is right or wrong…..

    • abner

       hoy ka rin..haha

  • Labandera1

    Bishop papano na ang mga pedophile priest,bakit tahimik kayo??????? don’t be SUV and pajero skinned…….

  • Agat Sumi

    Hoy bishop nasan ka nung nangungurakot si gma…from garci issue to zte bakit tahimik ka…shut up hypocrite!

    • abner

       bishop ako…,haha hypocrite mo mukha mo..hahha

  • josefe38

    Gunggong  talaga itong Abnoy na ito!!!! Akala siguro nya na perfect na perfect talaga sya at di magkamali. Ayaw tumanggap ng puna at batikos!!! Kung normal lang talaga ang takbo ng utak mo Abnoy di dapat sa isang occasion ng religious group babatikusin ang isang magka ibang pananapalataya. Talagang bakla talaga itong gunggong na ito!

    • abner

       namnamanin nia na ang pagkapresidente nia…di natin alam baka pagbaba nia naku sia pa ang mapunta sa bilibid.kung di nia nakaya si gloria ipasok dun…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFNVO7UFQHDOSF5XXD3UPX6CCY CRIS

    Let  the Gov’t do it’s best to the people..Only the Gov’t can do so not the church..

    • xrisp

      Is RHBill   BEST    for the people?

    • mhertz

      are you sure? Only the Government? The government is compose of people as the same people compose the church. I don’t think that most of the time, all the present and past government is looking for the best of its people. What happen to the goverment lead by Hitler, and other dictators?

  • JosengSisiw1

    How can an artificial contraceptives will result in immorality? I dont see any connections. A lot of priest have done immoral things even without the RH bill yet. And the President should not listen to these Bishops who are so thick faced they can still talk about God while driving SUV’s from a corrupt government officials.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

       The Catholic church is a WHORISH church described in Revelation as the WOMAN that is drunk with the wine of fornication and the blood of the saints that she killed for reading the bible. Shall they study the koran instead?

      • abner

         relihiyon sa relihiyon na ito..hehe

  • jenny lim

    …PNoy, dito ka na sa’min ng INC, ipapanalo pa namin lahat ng kandidato mo at segurado ka pang hindi mapupunta sa impiyerno. Walang ibang daan papuntang langit kundi maging kasapi namin.
     

    • abner

       patay tau jan…walng ibang daan…pano na ang libo libong ibang di katulad mo..impyerno, agad? agad agad ba?

  • jurbinsky77

    RH Bill leads to immorality?

    What about marriage annulment that are given apparently too easy to the rich and celebrities.

    What about that bishop who has a mistress and a child with her? What about the priest who travels to Canada to visit his mistress and his daughter?

    • abner

       kung may mistress man…ireport mo. kase bawal ang may mistress…para matanggal.

  • superlucky2

    Eh kasi Abnoy talaga si Aquino.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

       Superlicky, if you don’t have anything to say, don’t say it here?

      • superlucky2

        We are in a democratic country, rashid who are you to command me? Lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000438848138 Rafael Tupas

    weird kasi he used two of the country’s worst presidents……of course they were criticized! If he used someone else, mas okay pa sana. 

    On the RH bill, one should not impulsively say that the bill is Immoral. One of the terms in the Vatican II was ‘Aggiornamento’, or to bring up to date. The Church should be tolerant and accept that it cannot turn back time, thus, it has to be open-minded. The RH bill is not an entirely ‘Immoral’ bill, although it has provisions that may require amendment, which was fulfilled almost a month ago by the Solons.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

    If these bishops have nothing to do they should focus more on the corruption going on inside the Catholic hierarchy. I see this as ia insight to go against the government. They open their mouth to criticize so that they could receive donations not blessings as they don’t have any favor with God but with SATAN himself.

    • http://twitter.com/verjomar Verlito Ablin

      If indeed there is corruption in the Roman Catholic Church, it is not as widespread, rampant and observed to be practice regularly as noted in almost all government offices nationwide. Otherwise, we Catholics will be the first one to condemn it. The RH bill in itself is a form of corrupt practices in the making

  • basyong

    sinisiraan ninyo ang mga katoliko e ang ginagawa lang naman nila e paalala sa ating presidentong para maging kapal muks samantala yung ating mga kapatid kuno na mga muslims patuloy ang pagpatay ng ating mga sundalo na walang kalaban laban.mamili kayo ng tamang batikus? paalala sa ating tamad na presidente o mga muslim na walang awang pumupatay na hindi nakukulong?

    • abner

       hahaha tamad ba?? .nga..haha

  • opinyonlangpo

    Why not try giving out Pajeros? It might just work, might get addicted to it too then ask for birthday gifts. A seasoned politician should know what church collaboration the good bishop is talking about.

  • $26606290

    I’m not sure if the RH Bill will solve anything.  But isn’t it immoral to ignore the growing number of street kids roaming Metro Manila.   Or their counterparts in the rural areas…born in a brood too large for the parents to feed or worse provide for a fighting chance in life.
    The Catholic Church should do more or at least propose a doable alternative. 

    • xrisp

      Then you are not aware of the many charitable works of the Catholic Church. It is the advocacy of the Catholic Church too always connect and help the poor. You cannot ignore Mother Theresa of Calcutta and her charitable works for the poor, the sick, the dying. That is only one and there are more. Talk to the Church and maybe you will have your chance to share in their charitable works.

  • barada69

    The RC is another political body in the Philippines, they never  respect the separation of church and state. If this is the case, RC should be treated as such (political party) then pay their tax dues like everyone else. They are advancing an ideological  premise that more people to share a meager resources is wonderful, since this scenario creates an environment of hardship, poverty, crimes etc… this is where the church influence thrives since the church or RC in this case is a purveyor of hope and faith, nothing bad with hope, but if you can avoid to be in a situation to hope a better life, that is a much better shoes to be in.

  • sugbugrove

    President Pnoy must remember that when it comes to moral ascendancy,the Church still prevail…and he should not caters to or appeased his immediate audience for approvals,it is so subcutaneous doublespeak ! P.S. The President as a leader must not dwell on utterances output,rather let statistical result speak for itself….Maiingay din kasi iyong mga spokespersons niya,,dagdagan pa !

  • boybakal

    Pnoy has two faces….he is onion skinned if criticized but thick face if he criticizes.
    Respect begets respect…as President he should be a statesman when he talks and not street talk.

  • JV Velarde

    The bishops despite all the privileges including tax exemptions from every so called non-profit business ventures has failed big-time in taking care & instilling discipline among their brethren….. just look around Quiapo or Baclaran churches & you’ll find all kinds of crooks you can ever think of. 

    With the number of churches we have in the Philippines, including other denominations, INC,El Shaddai, JIL etch, the huge donations, contributions & the multi-billion peso bank account the church has, it could have made a greater impact in nation progress & development. 

    Unfortunately, it’s a failure because of it’s so called leaders.

  • pinoy917

    Magsitahimik nga kayo mga bishops! Pati ba naman pulitika pinakikialaman nyo.  Ayusin nyo na lang ang simbahan at ng dumami ang matuto sa salita ng Diyos at maging mabuting kristiyano!

  • simonibarra27

    Mga Damaso tumatahol na naman!Kakapal ng mukha nyo! kaya

    • abner

       …indi nman…;)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

      Through your words, simonibarra, I can see your soul.

  • rodben

    May karapatan ang simbahan magbatikos ng sino mang leader ng Pinas dahil malaki ang naging papel nila sa EDSA kya nagkaroon nang pagkakataon yong mga sabik na politicos maging leader ng Pinas at kumita rin ng malaking PERA..

    • simonibarra27

      May TAMA KA! MAPAPEL talaga yang mga sugo ni SATANAS!  Oh ano pa inaantay nyo mga followers ng Katolikoliko! attact me! Me wonders, ang bilis nyo talagang kumilos just to deffend Her(?)  unbelievable! Dami talaga mapapahmak pagdating ng paghuhukom.

      • abner

         ikaw lang ba ang masi save???? kawawa naman pala ang iba.lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

        Simonibarra, akala ko kung kristiyano ka you need to be messenger of peace…..It doesn’t show sa words mo

  • Beguine

    We just hope these Catholic bishops are not making pasakalye
    again for gift donations like brand-new Pajeros.

    More often than not instead of tending to their flock, they tend
    to their ulterior motives and “little” luxuries, when they should
    be making sacrifices and sticking to their holy vows of poverty.  

  • simonibarra27

    Nakakaawa naman yun mga suspect! Wala kasing moral values na natututunan sa mga simbahan! puro abala kasi sa fund raising ang mga pari at SUVshop. Sa ngayon nga ang pinag mimeetingan nila eh kung papaano nila mapapakapal ang mukha ni Pinoy gaya ng mga mukha nila. Masyado raw sensitive sa critism… Tignan mo sila insensitive talaga! may statement ba sila tungkol sa mga crimes Meolah! Chising! Chao lah!
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  • chitetskoy

    kaya yata may cybercrime law dahil marami ang bumabatikos sa gobyerno at hindi gusto ng ating pangulo.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      kaya ayaw din nya ng FOI BILL……….

  • batangsulpok

    Sobra na ang pakikialam ng simbahang katoliko sa gobyerno at sa Pilipinas lang nangyayari ang ganyan kaya hindi umaasenso ang bansa kasi puro madudunong ang mga tao lalo na ang mga nakaupo sa gobyerno na halos katoliko rin.

  • palakasantayo

    Bishop Oliveros says, church has to say something if the government is in the wrong. How does he know that the government is in the wrong, is it because the government is not following the teaching of his church? He says also that if the country adopts the RH Bill that the country will become immoral… What do you mean bishop Oliveros? Countries who adopt progressive family planning  are immoral? Remember, there many of them who are progressive and well off compare with the Philippines who will remain forever poor if we don’t change. Poorness trumps morality just to survive. Don’t you know that. So… we will remain poor and immoral.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      you do not equate progress with morality….

      • palakasantayo

        Maybe not… but remaining poor and preventing progress is immoral isn’t?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

    • abner

       ganun nga.kase pagdami ng siblings mas maganda….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOP SAY MORE STREET CHILDREN MORE ISNATCHER IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES’ KAYA YUNG SIMBAHAN NILA PUNONG PUNO NG CCTVS NINANAKAWAN NA SILA NG PERA ABULOY AT KAMPANA”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DR.JOSE RIZAL SAY CBCP BISHOPS IS TERORIST TALIBAN IN THE REPUBLIC IN THE PHILIPPINES;;

    • abner

       wala yatang sinabing ganun..haha

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      link please…….

    • mhertz

      so it means yourAlayer..lol

  • http://twitter.com/pachichi2000 Ebie Radda

    There’s NO collaboration between the church and the government in the Philippines. If there is… then this is a violation of the constitution. Catholic authorities should be JAILED and prosecuted. If the Aquino government implement the constitution then his administration is the people’s government.

  • http://www.geeky-guide.com/ Geeky Guide

    I love how the only past presidents cited were Marcos and GMA. Subtle implications there? =D

  • http://www.facebook.com/dannmariz Danilo Navarro

    talagang itong mga bishop na ito wallllllang katigil tigil sa pakiki alam sa gobierno buti kung nag babayad ng tax eh hinde naman..madami problema ang simbahan yun na lang asikasuhun ninyo o dahil panay puna ninyo sa govierno dahil walang regalong SUV..

  • lucidlynx

    Hoy bishop! Just because the president’s views are contrary to the catholic church’s doesn’t mean he is onion-skinned! Kayo nga ang dapat hindi nakiki-alam sa proseso ng gobiyerno pero masyado kayong paki-alamero. Ang simbahang katoliko nga sa Italy hindi nakiki-alam sa takbo ng gobiyerno doon kasi nirerespeto nila ang gobiyerno. Kung gusto niyo ng respect, matuto din kayong rumespeto!

  • boybakal

    The bishops have every right to criticize Pnoy.
    There is no violation of church and state. The bishops are saying what is wrong in Pnoy’s governance.
    Why? They are filipinos and Filipino citizens. They are not friars like Padre Damaso who were Spanish.
    You and me, filipinos and Filipino blood,priests, bishops we have the right and freedom in this country of ours, to criticize, to praise whoever run this country or ours…..Philippines.

    • artz555

      But these Filipino blood priests inherited the genes or traits of Padre Damaso, Spain using a stronger religion ( instead of more soldiers ) to help them take a grip, or control the minds of the Filipino people. Yes, stronger religion than in Italy, Germany, France and Poland which are close to the Vatican, but already have universal RH for decades now.

      Yes, the Church can express it’s opinions and criticize the President…, but the Church cannot force the President or Congress to collaborate with them…, nor oblige them to follow the Church’s recommendations blindly, precisely because of ” The Separation of Church and State shall be Inviolable ” provision, …( ‘inviolable’ from Webster means incapable of being violated, incorruptible..etc)…. (article II, section 6)…, clearly stated in the Philippine constitution.

      • RomyLitz

        Agree 100% !!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Who’s forcing who? Pnoy can pass the rh bill if he wants, IF he has the POLITICAL WILL…….Now, can he do the same with the FOI BILL?

      • artz555

        The people, wherein majority of them favors the RH bill based on passed surveys, should tell their representatives in Congress and the President (by phone, by e-mail, by text etc.) to pass the RH bill, in a time frame the people wants, then inform everyone else to do the same.

        If the people’s representatives in Congress are not doing the job their voters wants them to do, then the people should warn these representatives and/or replace them accordingly, in the next election, with people that will represent them well. The same same scenario should happen in the FOI bill.

  • $20722540

    pnoynoy expects the bishops to just “amen” to him or whatever he has to say…galing mo pnoynoy.  kung wala yong church wala edsa revolution – narami ng nagsisisi

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Taxpayer Money

    GlorIa Gift to Mitsubishop and Safari Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • boybakal

       Gloria knows it is hard for the priest and bishops to travel and spread the word of God, help the needy and sick.
      They need vehicle to travel and Gloria gave them.
      Good deed of Gloria, she should be rewarded.
      Praise the Lord and Glory be to Gloria.

      • AllaMo

        Ogag! Stop taking my name in vain. And, placing it in the same sentence with that biatch!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        correct…….

    • RomyLitz

      Good recollection of Bishops sins. Materialistic ang mga ito. They can’t expect these gifts from no-nonsense Pnoy so they will prefer a rambunctious mode hoping they can hoodwink or confuse him like they did to Cory.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        no-nonsense? duh….

    • RomyLitz

      Until now, they have not returned the 8 million peso cash to the PCSO and returned instead these useless second hand SUVs.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        because Pnoy and Juico refused to accept the suv’s back, with matching, “i am sorry, bishops”…hehe

    • napali808

      Dirt bags. They should be replaced with some down to earth, sincere and real spiritual leaders.

  • m1600

    Simeon ikaw ang mag pa sweldo kay Sec to the Cabinet mo na si Almendras mga walang pakinabang ang tao jan pati si Carandang panay duplication of function ngayon naman si Purisima dalawa na ang CHIEF PNP pero walang silbi yung isa. Sino ba ang tungak na adviser mo sa mga pakana mo na ganyan? 

  • maypakialamtayo

    eto ang alam ko, hindi ang nanay mo, hindi si ramos, hindi si enrile at lalong hindi si honasan ang nagpatalsik sa diktador kundi ang taong simbahan, ang nanay mo nagtago sa kumbento sa cebu, si enrile, ramos at honasan nagkuta sa kampo crame at aguinaldo, ang mga madre at pari sinasalubong ang mga tangke ng loyal na sundalo ng diktador. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      this is the real account that the yellow fans of the incumbent president is trying hard to change and hide….kapal

    • napali808

       Si Cardinal Sin at ang mga bishops naman ay nasa ilalim nang kanilang kama. I agree the courageous nuns and some priests were in the front line. We all know about Enrile and Honasan. They had their own agenda.

  • docbien

    nakaka-amuse naman ang mga comments dito. Pero, in fairness, it is because of the critical collaboration of the Church that EDSA Uno happened. If naging pipi at bulag sina Cardinal Sin dati, baka ngayon Martial law pa rin tayo. Nakakalimutan na yata ah na dahil sa critical collaboration ng Church, na iluklok ang Nanay nya sa pwesto. In fact, d ba sa kumbento sila nagtago during the onset of EDSA One? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2YAYHPL4WJCO4FGRTUY56DUSNU maria

      This is clearly another issue! The EDSA historical incident does not give the Catholic Church the mandate to put their fingers in all affairs of the government. Similarly, because the Iglesia ni Manalo supported PNoy doesn’t mean that they can influence the president in affairs of the government. Your logic doctor is weak!

      • docbien

        I never implied that because of EDSA, the Church can now, as you said, “out their fingers in all affairs of the government”. All I’m saying is, it was that EDSA moment when the Church became partisan and joined in the revolution, and the people welcomed it. Historians even agree that if not for the participation of the Church (with the military combined) the coup of Enrile and Ramos wouldn’t have prospered. And now, just because the Church Leaders are once again becoming political (and it just happened that they seem to be on the opposite side of the fence) critics are saying the Church shouldn’t meddle? How do we draw the line now? Even the Aquino family before benefited from the collaboration with the Church. Of course, the Church and State will find themselves at odds some times (if not most of the time) but let’s face it, PNoy must admit that his family also benefited before from the “support” and “endorsement” of the Church. And now, just because the Church Leaders don’t agree with some of his policies, he criticizes them for being partisan? Come Election time, I bet you, many of these politicians will troop to Church groups (INC, JIL, El Shaddai, Quiboloy, etc) for endorsements. :-)

    • Rolly257

      Matagal na panahong naging pipi at bulag sina Cardinal Sin (20 years). People Power ang nagpatalsik kay Marcos. Si Butz Aquino na kapatid ni Ninoy ang unang nanghimok sa taong bayan na bigyan ng kalasag Si Enrile at Ramos.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        you’re making false version of history authored by yellow fanatics…..but you can continue believing your own history….

      • docbien

        Agree na naging tahimik ang Simbahan sa loob ng Martial Law pero dahil ito sa pananaw ng Simbahan, lalong-lalo na ang Vaticano, na hindi dapat maki-alam ang Simbahan sa usaping politika. At hindi lang ang Simbahang Katolika ang nanahimik sa mga panahong iyun. Pati ang ibang relihiyon (e.g. INC, etc.) ay nanahimik din. Yung iba nga ay bukas na sinuportahan si Marcos hanggang sa kadulu-duluhan. Pero noong nakita na nang Simbahan na hindi na karapatdapat na mamuno si Marcos, ang Simbahang Katoliko ang nanguna sa pagdeklara na ang resulta ng Snap Election na pinatawag ni Marcos ay huwad. Naging takbuhan din ni Cory Aquino si Cardinal Sin mismo at si Cardinal Sin ang naging tulay upang mapag-isa ang Opposition kontra kay Marcos (nakumbinse ni Cardinal Sin na tumakbo sa pagka Bise-Presidente na lang si Doy Laurel at sumanib pwersa kay Cory bilang kandidato sa pagkapangulo). Kung sa palagay nila Cory wala nang kredibilidad ang Simbahan, lalo na si Cardinal Sin, eh di sana hindi na sya umasa pa dun. Nanawagan nga si Butz Aquino pero eto ay sagot sa unang panawagan ni Cardinal Sin na proteksyonan ng mga taong bayan sina Enrile and Ramos. Try to review the timeline of the EDSA revolution. My memory, I must admit, is a little rusty.

        by the way, it was during the martial law when the Church organized the “Basic Ecclesial Communities” which was even tagged by Marcos’s Army as insurgents and communists. The Church was “silent” but She was working on the ground to ensure that the rural communities are protected. During the Martial Law years, marami ding naging martyr ang Simbahan katulad nina Fr. Godofredo Alingal, SJ and Fr. Rudy Romano, CSsR.

    • napali808

      Did you see that Marcos New Years video wherein the fat Cardinal Sin partying with the thieves. When the tide was swaying towards the people power, he and Enrile jumped ship and sided with the Cory and the people. It’s a little different with the Arroyo’s. Arroyo gave them SUVs and they were friends for life. Remember Judas!! Don’t get me wrong I believe in JC and god, but these gay RC bishops. They think that they have the god given right to meddle with the affairs of the state.

  • pranzer

    Pnoy don’t listen to these ancient hypocrites. They should look themselves in the mirror before they criticize. They don’t represent the people anyway. They are too detached and smug to claim that they are for the good of the people. These people claim to have the moral ascendancy but a lot of them are receivers of illegal gambling largesse, abusers of children, womanizers, etc. Go ahead with the RH Bill. What do they know about family planning? They don’t have to work hard to earn their day’s meal, they just ask from the people.

  • AmpJr

    Today morality is still ideal but there should be some compromise for the good of the people..We should be practical and realistic..We can’t fault husband and wife to use contraceptives if they can’t afford to have children. But we can not tell them not to have sex using contraceptives…Hypocrisy in the catholic church still thrives…logical thinking is a must…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2YAYHPL4WJCO4FGRTUY56DUSNU maria

    Aren’t the bishops onioned skin, too? These bishops feel so free to criticize yet condemn anyone who criticizes them. Akala mo kung sinong maru-runong at banal itong mga bishops na ito! Sa Jesuits lang wala na silang match. 

    Have you heard the Pope criticizing presidents?

    • RomyLitz

      Many of them in the USA and England were caught, convicted and certified paedophiles and gays. They still prefer to show their shameless pride and hypocrisy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

      Maria, show me where and when did the bishops CONDEMN anyone? They only condemn what is wrong like the RHBill, never the person. Condemn the sin not the sinner

      • napali808

         Oh please, open your eyes. They are the most control freaks I have ever seen. Don’t be fooled by their external pious image coz they are far from being one. Some of them are condemed in prison in US & UK for obvious reason. Now you tell me if anyone of these guys have ever been convicted in PH and why?

  • RomyLitz

    Jose Oliveros,

    Stop your speaking at the media or press and focus instead on your sermon at the pulpit . Maybe there are no people in the church lke what the people did in the Beatle’s song, ” Eleanor Rigby” where Fr. McKenzie was preparing a sermon that noone would hear.

  • Rolly257

    The catholic church kept its silence in the 20 years of Marcos’ reign. They criticized Gloria for a little over one minute, and when bribed, Bishops suddenly became deaf and blind.

    • RomyLitz

      Because their bank accounts swelled at the same time.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

        Romy, show me your proof. If you can’t, then your words are worthless.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        galing yan kay conrado de quiros na numero unong tsismosa at sobra ang galit sa simbahan

    • http://twitter.com/verjomar Verlito Ablin

      We Filipinos easily forgot what the Catholic church has done for the success of EDSA revolution that led to the overthrow of the late President Marcos. We had attacked the clergy viciously and do not wanted them to air their political views as if it is wrong to do so, when as a matter of fact they are the only leverage of the Filipino people against the abusive and oftentimes manipulative oligarch-leaning elected government officials..  

      • tadasolo

        the catholic church is the de facto government in our lives and they have supported all leaders in the past. the church is not an activities to improve our economic conditions they want us to live in ignorance so they will constantly manipulate us into believing theirs is eternal salvation. have you notice we are the only christian nation in the Asia and we are behind and the most miserable. At least Bangladesh and now Burma are opening up and moving forward. they will leave us behind if we constantly listened to the church instead of what is right. we grew up in a “convent” atmosphere and the discomfort of freedom is frightfull

      • http://twitter.com/verjomar Verlito Ablin

        Your line of reasoning seems sounds familiar and can be trace back to Maoist Communist Chinese teaching I heard way back in the 70’s. As a Filipino Catholic I am not beholden to anyone except my GOD.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        amen.

      • napali808

         When someone disagrees with the church, you can’t libel him as pro commie. You are still living in the past..get over it. I am a RC, but I don’t agree to all those gay, hypocrite, pompous bishops. They should be replaced with more intelligent, sincere, spiritual and down to earth ones. One who understand people’s spiritual needs not by just preaching but doing something.

      • napali808

         AMEN!!   Here’s the equation:  RC church + Ignorance = Money + Power

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      Really? Have you heard of the name Cardinal Sin?

  • Rolly257

    “The issue on RH bill is a clear violation of the Church’s teachings because this will result in immorality,”Oliveros said.

    These Bishops and priests consider themselves as moral, while at the same time, they prey among the vulnerable children.

    • RomyLitz

      Correct !!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        actually, mali…..

      • RomyLitz

        Mali si Jose Oliveros? Yep!! that’s correct!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        hindi, ikaw ang mali…hehe

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

      Show me where did the bishops and priests say that THEY are moral. They are sinners like us. but that doesn’t stop them from talking to us about the gospel. Our sins cannot stop God from using us to spread His Word. If sinlessness is a must to be a messenger of the Gospel, who do you think is worthy? 

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        LOL

      • where_I_stand

        LOL
        Lucky O
        O Luciano
        LOL

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        Yes, WIS, Hadsex with God again?
        L
        OH
        L

    • marvingaboysantiago

      Do not accuse the priest of wrongful doing.  You should see them with respect…..

      • Benj Borja

        Priests are not perfect.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Indeed, but you don’t need to make hasty generalization. It wouldn’t be fair that if I see one drunkard and corrupt born-again pastor, i will lump these born-again pastors as drunkards and corrupt.

      • marvingaboysantiago

        But they also have rights to open their views to issues that will affect the people. 

      • napali808

         To be a RC priest/bishop is a good gig, because they just tell the people that they’ll pray for them and that’s it. They don’t venture out of their comfortable churches and go to poor side of town where there are lot of human sufferings and where help is really needed. WHY? Something is not right in this picture do you think? You give respect when respect is due but not this one. No way.

      • marvingaboysantiago

        The issue here is not about priest and bishops. There is no point in attacking the duties and responsibilities of those clergies. The issue is the effect of contraceptives to humans. Abortion in it’s early stage of life…. the church are only pronouncing their views about the ill effects of contraceptives to its faithfuls.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      generalizations….tsk tsk tsk…mag aral ka muna ng logic…hindi ka marunong makipag argumento

  • http://twitter.com/Borogol Borogol

    nung sinabing Onion skin….

    napaisip ako…

    naalala yung face ni mr. president…
    tingin sa left, tingin sa right.. di ko ma gets..

    tingin sa taas.. ABA, OO NGA NO!

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      touched by BELO yan skin ni penoy

  • Your_King

    All Aquino does is complain, point the blame, and make excuses. How is the Philippines ever going to move forward and continue its growth? The only growth the Philippines has seen lately is the growth of unemployment.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SANA LUMAKAS NA PISO KATULAD NOON PANAHON NI MACOY MARAMING NABIBILI PANAHON PA NI GLORIA CROCODILE DOLAR 41 PALITAN HANGANG NGAYON 41 PARIN WALA PAG BABAGO KAYONG MGA CBCP BISHOPS TUMAHIMIKA KAYO LALO NA YAN SI BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ BAKLA KA””MUKA KANG GALUNGGONG” MARAMI PARIN ANG WALANG TRABAHO ANG DAMING CRIMINAL NAKAKATAKOT DI KA SAFE SA PINAS SABI NGA NG AMERICANO NAKAUSAP KO SA SINGAPORE UNSAFE SA TURISTA VERY HIGH CRIME ANG PINAS KAKATAKOT WALA GINAGAWA ANG GOBYERNO PARA NANGINGITLOG NA MANOK” R.H BILL AT FOI BILL IMPORTANTE BATAS YAN”

  • Cal_Reznick

    Let’s get things clear here…its impossible for anyone to criticize the President before he opens his mouth to talk because it looks like that’s all the President does is talk all the time. Its style over substance. Its talk over action with this President. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/lolo.mo.73997 Lolo Mo

    Some people just could not remove the idea that once a public figure, you are subjected to all kinds of constructive and rediculous remarks. What makes him think that he is an exception, Mama’s boy?

  • GaggerAlert

    Church vs Aquino. Clash of the retards.

    Don’t dare to criticize Aquino, he’s a spoiled brat who wants praise everywhere. Stop the church from meddling, they have no sense whatsoever, they only focus on their organization’s gain. 

    When a retard argues with another retard. You get a retarded result.

    • mhertz

      so are you the result? lol

      • GaggerAlert

        lol! more like you since nonsense lang cnabi mo. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HAPQVQNMOOCNHB54ONDGD2KSRE esther

    GUSTO BA NANG BISHOP NA MAGING MAKAPAL ANG MUKHA NI NOYNOY TULAD NI CORONAT, PLUNDERAP O ONE BALL SUPOT? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      Di pa ba makapal ang panot na mukha?

      • RomyLitz

        Ikaw si Mike Arroyo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        ikaw din kaya si Carandang? hehe

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        si valte yan parekoy

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    Ganito talaga sa Phil. Pag nasa pwesto ka bugbog sarado sa BATIKOS.Noong si Arroyo ang Pres. mas matitindi ang batikos na inabot nya hanggang ngayon. Kung batikusin ng mga tao ni Pres. Noynoy ang mga kalaban nia ay halos madurog ang mga ito. WHAT YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU REAP .paunawa di po akin yang qoute na yan baka makasuhan ako ng plagiarism.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CYUXU35XHVC6K7HGRCZNI7JOFA PAZ

    karamihan sa Filipino mahilig manira.Mahilig magtsismis na maraming dagdag at walang bawas .itong si Pres.Noynoy kung bumatikos sa mga kalaban nya ay inam pag sya nabatikos umuusok ang ilong sa galit. Kung

  • RomyLitz

    Jose Oliveros,

    Iballik mo muna o ng CBCP ang 8 million pesos na ginamit ng mga MitsuiBishop pag bili ng mg SUVs nila. Nasa-an na ang 8 million pesos na dapat ibalik sa PCSO.?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      actually, the bishops wanted to return these suv’s, but PNOY and JUICO of pcso refused to accept them back, nag SORRY pa nga eh?

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    IT ONLY REFLECTS THE PENOY HAS MENTAL DISORDER…AUTISTIC….

    kung siya mambatikos, ok lang, kahit saan, kahit kailan, hait invited lang siya, guest speaker or state visit sa new zealand….

    pero kung siya na ang binabatikos….parang bakla namumura sa galit…naghahanap ng kakampi…at nakahanp ngaun ng kakampi sa mga grupong galit sa mga katoliko…

    kung ako sau penoy…MAG BORN AGAINST KA NALANG…kasi tinuringan ka pa naman na katoliko, tapos para ka diyan bakla….NAPAKA HIPOKRITA MO TALAGA!!!…

  • Lee_Min_Ho

    Mga padre damaso

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C6JNBSASOMJPKK63TBJUYCVWXQ Emman

    KATOLIBAN………….KATOLIKONG SARADO ANG ISIPAN AT PINAPAALIPIN ANG BAYAN SA MGA DAMASO

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C6JNBSASOMJPKK63TBJUYCVWXQ Emman

    KATOLIBAN…………KATOLIKO NA TALIBAN ANG ISIPAN …..MGA TERRORISTA NG BANSANG PILIPINAS FOR ALMOST 500 YEARS

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUDDCTRYZ2YSPBGEGCJZBAACIU Dong

    Tama si Pnoy dapat labanan nya ang media lalo na yon mga corrupt at kapartido ni gloria. Wala ginawa kong di manira at magbalita na negative news. Buti nga ngayon diretso sila kinakausap noung panahon ni gloria lahat tinatakot at binibigyan ng pera tapos lahat ay kinakasuhan ni mike (takaw pera)ngayon ba may pinapatay   ba c Pnoy na media wala! Kaya lang nagssalita yan ng sobra negative kala nila makakahingi sila ng pabor para maging director ng government corp o maging ambasador. Tapos ito mga CBCP kulang rin sa pansin, nagagalit sila dahil pwede pala tumakbo ang gobierno na maayos kahit wala sila at mas maganda pa ang takbo dahil wala nakasakay sa montero at pick up.



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