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‘Virgin Mary’ draws hundreds of Malaysian Catholics



An image said to be the Virgin Mary appears on the window of a Malaysian hospital in Subang outside Kuala Lumpur on Sunday, Nov. 11, 2012. AFP PHOTO/MOHD RASFAN

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia—Hundreds of Catholics have gathered in prayer and worship outside a Malaysian hospital after seeing an image said to resemble the Virgin Mary on one of the windows.

Pictures of the image have gone viral among local Christians on Facebook and large crowds have gathered at the Sime Darby Medical Centre just outside Kuala Lumpur.

Those assembled Sunday maintained they can now also see an image of an adult Jesus Christ just two windows away from His mother.

Nearly 100 Catholics were still at the hospital Sunday, lighting candles, singing hymns and saying prayers. Several tourist buses added to the congestion.

Some have come from as far as Singapore, over 300 kilometers (187 miles) away, to see the image on a seventh-floor window, which they describe as a miracle.

“We believe Mary, mother of God, has a message for us, as she is looking down on us and then at a Malaysian flag. We can also see Jesus and He is also moving, they are not static,” Eunice Fernandez, who lives nearby, told AFP.

The 54-year-old housewife dismissed claims the image could be a hoax.

Sime Darby, which is primarily a plantations conglomerate, could not immediately be reached for comment.

Roman Catholic devotees offer prayers in front of an image said to be of the Virgin Mary who appeared on the window of a Malaysian hospital in Subang on Nov. 11, 2012. AFP PHOTO

Father Lawrence Andrew, editor of Malaysian Catholic newsletter The Herald, told AFP the Church would need to investigate and verify the authenticity of the images and “the experiences of the witnesses.”

“It could be private revelations. We have to make sure they are not imagined but real apparitions,” he said.

Catholics make up a sizeable minority in Muslim-dominated Malaysia.


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    Cautiously, the Catholic Church wants to make sure that the image appearing on the hospital window comes not from a hoax. Many apparitions in the past have been refused confirmation by the Catholic Church for even the Devil can create impressions as it did to tempt Jesus at the desert.

    BUT, faith makes wonders for people, unbelievers and believers alike, when Marian apparitions such those few confirmed by Church investigators have made thousands of people repent and turn to God for cleansing of souls through the sending of our Lord God Jesus of His mother Mary as He commands on the Cross – “Behold your mother” as Jesus told John standing close by Mary. 

    It is indeed a welcome “miracle” if the Catholic Church confirms its divine inspiration in Malaysia, a country dominated by citizens of the Islamic faith. Some Catholics overseas need the inspiration to reinforce their faith when there are “persecutions” from predominantly non-Christian countries and where their religious liberties are curtailed. A Marian apparition brings the Good News in the hearts of those whose faith have weakened. Like a true mother, Mary represents as God’s messenger to bring hope to those who have doubted and lost faith.

    • Pablo316

      From your comments you appear to be a religious person and of age already and your years of existence may as well be few also, so let me tell you with a godly concern that you should get rid of this Mary adoration whether these apparitions are real or hoaxes, otherwise you are heading towards a spiritual deception and you have but believed in vain.
       
      These apparitions are the works of deceiving spirits and people who believe their messages are further plunged into utter darkness of errors and lies. You should instead just worship the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father and read and study the Bible the rest of your years so that you will know the Lord Jesus and His message better.
       
      I give you this admonition in the hope that you will listen otherwise you will just go on in this great deception.
       
      So whether you will take heed of this advice or not, you should realize that you have been warned so that when the time comes that you will now face the judgment seat of God you cannot say that nobody warned you of this error while you are still alive here on earth.
       
      “If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!” (Matthew 6:23)
       
      To avoid such tragedy just stick to the written words of God – the Bible.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/254CTXAFREY63YS6PVOMDMMZMA nestors

         ang tanong pare ko, bakit di ka maniwalang SI MARIA AY TATAWAGING MAPALAD NG LAHAT NG SALI’T SALING LAHI, PURO KA BIBLE, kaming katoliko mas unang naniniwala sa nakasulat dyan, pero bakit tila NAKAKULONG LANG SA BIBLIYA ANG MGA POSIBLENG GAWIN NG DIYOS, DI SABI NYA: WALANG IMPOSIBLE SA DIYOS? ngayon bakit hindi pwdeng makaramdam ng Kababalaghang umaakit papalapit sa Diyos.. TANONG KO, yung HIMALA ba na iyon ay nagTURONG LUMAYO SA DIYOS ANG MGA TAO, O MAS NAPALAPIT SA DIYOS? di ba yan ang BUOD NG BIBLIYA?.. ANG MAPALAPIT ANG TAO SA DIYOS? ngayon, kung mas NAPALAPIT AT AKO AT MULI AKONG NAGBALIK LOOB SA DIYOS, ANO MASAMA DOON? aba AT KUNG MANDARAYANG ESPIRITU YUN, e di sana mas NAPALAYO AKO SA DIYOS? ANG DECEIVING SPIRIT BA CAN MAKE PEOPLE GOOD? ABA ABA….salungat yata ang espiritung alam mo, YAN ANG HIRAP SA MGA LITERAL NA GAYA MO,,, HINDI NA ALAM ANG SASABIHIN KAPAG NAGDUDULOT NG WASTONG GAWA ANG ISANG TAO NA NANIWALA SA  PAG-IBIG NG DIYOS

      • Pablo316

        It is widely known that people who are hopelessly devoted to this idols and apparitions are indeed driven further away from the true God of the Bible and from the Lord Jesus Christ for they now consider another being as also a mediator between God and man, this is in clear contravention to what the Bible says that there is but one mediator between God and man – the Lord Jesus Christ.
         
        And haven’t you read in the Bible that even Satan and his demons can also pretend to be an angel of light? And this is exactly what is happening in these apparitions, people are being deluded into believing that these spirits are indeed from God when in fact they are misleading and deceiving the people into believing another mediator, which then becomes automatically becomes an antichrist.
         
        So you see, all this Mary-thing and apparitions are but a great deception and comes from deceiving spirits.
         
        Anyway it is enough for me to warn the people of this deception and whether they believe it or not, at least they have been warned of this error. Then they can no longer make any excuses in front of the judgment seat of God that nobody warned them of this evil deception during the days of their life here on earth, and that includes you because you have known of this warning.
         
        So repent of this sin and evil and ask God to grant you that wisdom to know His message and His will. Read and believe the written words of God – the Bible!

      • Miguel

        Sa totoo lang Pablo316, ang comments mo palagi sa mga Catholic news dito sa Inquirer ay puro lang paninira sa mga Katoliko. Di ka na nahiya.  Ang hilig hilig mo kunwari mag quote quote sa bible, pero di mo naman ginagawa ang basic teaching ng bible na mahalin mo ang kapwa mo.  Ni hindi ka man lang marunong gumalang sa religion ng iba.  Hipokrito ka!  Halata naman ang agenda mo lang dito ay makaconvert ng mga Katoliko at sumali sila sa nilalangaw mo na sekta. Pasalamat ka peaceful people kami mga Catholics.  Bakit ayaw mo dun mangaral ng bible mo sa mga Muslim? Ayaw mo kasi duwag ka. Takot kang habulin ka at patayin ng mga Muslim.  Bakit ayaw mo pangaralan mga atheists dito ha na di naniniwala sa Diyos at di nagbabasa ng bible kung totoo ka ngang Kristiyano?  Bakit sinisingle out mo kami palagi mga Catholics na naniniwala na sa Diyos at nagbabasa rin ng bible? Halatang laki ng inggit mo sa Catholic Church kaya pinupuntirya at sinisiraan mo palagi.  Sasabihin ko sayo, wala sinumang makapagpigil at makasira sa Catholic Church kahit sino pang kampon ni Satanas ang lalaban dito (Mt. 16:18).  Ang dami ng kumalaban sa simbahan for 2000 years, pero palaki ng palaki pa rin ang simbahan. At nasan na yung mga kumakalaban sa simbahan ngayon? Wala na, nabaon na lang sila sa limot.  Kaya sige, good luck na lang sa paninira at ilusyon mong kaya mong sirain ang simbahan ha. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        If these apparitions, whether real or not, would cause people to get closer to God, what is wrong with that?  If your arguments would cause confusions to people who are, otherwise, drawn closer to God by such apparitions, I begin to believe you are the one pretending to be angel of light.  If you are not, why don’t you want people to get closer to God?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        You are correct, if you meant ‘NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THRU JESUS CHRIST”.

        And, HOW DO WE COME TO JESUS CHRIST?  And, HOW
        DID JESUS CHRIST COME TO US?  Thru a human being, is it not?  Thru the Virgin Mary.

        And, HOW WERE THE WORDS OF GOD SPREAD TO HUMANITY?  First, thru the Apostles, isn’t it?  And, that is AFTER JESUS BUILT HIS CHURCH ON THE ROCK, represented by Peter, whom we now address as Saint.  The Rock means solid foundation, unbreakable, universal, Catholic!

        And, all these humans, thru whom JESUS CHRIST CAME TO US, and THRU WHOM THE WORD OF GOD WAS SPREAD, we rever and honor them, thru their statues, images and articlles, to immortalize every role they had done for the WORSHIP OF GOD.

        People who are continually saying, we, Catholics, worship their images, are guilty of deception, motivated by evil intention to discredit the most organized religious grouping in the worship of the ONE TRUE GOD.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Those idols and apparitions inspire us…paanong magiging hopeless…but, we do not worship them…YOU ARE RESORTING TO BEARING FALSE WITNESS and PREJUDING OTHERS, both of which the Bible prohibits, but you have continually been exploiting for your selfish motives.

      • Miguel

        Sa totoo lang Pablo316, ang comments mo palagi sa mga Catholic news dito sa Inquirer ay puro lang paninira sa mga Katoliko. Di ka na nahiya.  Ang hilig hilig mo kunwari mag quote quote sa bible, pero di mo naman ginagawa ang basic teaching ng bible na mahalin mo ang kapwa mo.  Ni hindi ka man lang marunong gumalang sa religion ng iba.  Hipokrito ka!  Halata naman ang agenda mo lang dito ay makaconvert ng mga Katoliko at sumali sila sa nilalangaw mo na sekta. Pasalamat ka peaceful people kami mga Catholics.  Bakit ayaw mo dun mangaral ng bible mo sa mga Muslim? Ayaw mo kasi duwag ka. Takot kang habulin ka at patayin ng mga Muslim.  Bakit ayaw mo pangaralan mga atheists dito ha na di naniniwala sa Diyos at di nagbabasa ng bible kung totoo ka ngang Kristiyano?  Bakit sinisingle out mo kami palagi mga Catholics na naniniwala na sa Diyos at nagbabasa rin ng bible? Halatang laki ng inggit mo sa Catholic Church kaya pinupuntirya at sinisiraan mo palagi.  Sasabihin ko sayo, wala sinumang makapagpigil at makasira sa Catholic Church kahit sino pang kampon ni Satanas ang lalaban dito (Mt. 16:18).  Ang dami ng kumalaban sa simbahan for 2000 years, pero palaki ng palaki pa rin ang simbahan. At nasan na yung mga kumakalaban sa simbahan ngayon? Wala na, nabaon na lang sila sa limot.  Kaya sige, good luck na lang sa paninira at ilusyon mong kaya mong sirain ang simbahan ha. 

      • Pablo316

        I am just stating what is true as plainly as I can, the truth in the Bible respects no religion so I am in no way singling out RCC,and I always speaks out against anything that sets itself up against the truth revealed in the written words of God.
         
        It just so happens that this idolatry and deception is prevalent in RCC, so I tell people to just ignore these so-called Mary apparitions because they are the work of deceiving spirits, and they misled the people into believing a false mediatrix – this so-called Queen of Heaven, which is no other than the old goddess of pagan people since the Babylonian times and is in no way represents the blessed mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.
         
        As I said, it is up to you who read this truth to whether accept it and so be saved or reject it and slide down to eternal punishment in Gehenna after being condemned by God of this evil practices.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Para kang si Cuevas, puro ka technicality, kino-confuse mo ang issue?  Hindi naman kinakailangang maging matalino para matuwa sa iyo ang Maylikha.  Ang totoo, higit na nakasisiguro sa kaligtasan ang mga bata, mga batang walang sapat na kaalaman sa mga nalalaman mo.  Ang anumang pangyayari na magiging dahilan upang mapalapit ang sinuman sa Diyos ay pinagpapala ng Maykapal.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        HINDI LISENSIYA ANG NALALAMAN MO SA BIBLIYA PARA MANG-INSULTO NG IBANG PANANAMPALATAYA

        KUNG ANG GALING SA BIBLIYA LAMANG ANG PAGBABASEHAN NG KALIGTASAN…KAWAWA NAMAN ANG MARAMI PANG MILYONG-MILYONG HINDI NAKARINIG NG MGA ARAL SA BIBLIYA…ANG MGA BATANG WALANG SAPAT NA KAISIPAN PARA MAUNAWAAN ANG BIBLIYA.

        NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO JUDGE HIS FELLOWMEN…IN YOUR ACCUSATIONS, YOU HAVE ALREADY PREJUDGED OTHER PEOPLE.

        MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Dictionary defines IDOLATRY as the worship of physical object as a god..You and the likes of you use that term to discredit the Catholic practice of giving reverence to people who died in the name of God, we immortalize their saintly deeds. similar to the respect we have on the statue of our heroes; and, re other articles, same honor we give to that piece of cloth, we raise to top of the pole, we call Flag, as we we stand in attention while singing our National Anthem. Amid all these, WE DO NOT WORSHIP THEM! 

        To use IDOLATRY, therefore, to discredit another’s form of worship is DECEITFUL…esp if done with the end in view of drawing people to come to your fold — that’s deception!  Now, it is becoming clearer who are the deceiving spirits, likening  Mary, Mother of God, who, we Catholics address as Queen of Heaven and Earth, to a pagan goddess.  THAT’s BLASPHEMY, the same charge the Hudios had against Jesus, that led to His agonies and death on the cross, which ultimately led to Redemption.

        BLASPHEMOUS, I said, because God, Himself, chose and blessed Mary among women to bear Jesus Christ.

        If you do not believe this, it is up to you.  Same thing that the Escribas and Pariseos, who are scholars on scriptures, did not believe on Jesus Christ, but instead caused His death.

      • Pablo316

        Indeed you are already too depth into deception so that you don’t recognize which is evil and which is good. You have been duped into believing a lie and don’t accuse me of enticing you to join any religion for I am not a religionist as you might think I am.
         
        There is no such thing as Mary the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ being the Queen of Heaven and Earth. That title belongs to a pagan goddess and even the Bible points to the Queen of Heaven as such. Kindly do yourself a favor by doing some research and you will find this out; also you will find out that such contrivances are the invention of Roman Catholicism which is a misleading and a great deception – a big lie.
         
        Anyway like I told you at least you have been warned that this is wrong and evil and will lead to your eternal condemnation before the judgment seat of God.
         
        It is up to you if you will still persist in this lie.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        These are your personal beliefs, and not the belief of any religion?  I can only respect your beliefs in the same token that I wouild rather demand that you respect ours.

        IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT BELIEVERS OTHER THAN YOURS DESERVE TO BE RESPECTED, YOU DO NOT NEED TO ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS.

      • anu12345

        You are saying your religion/belief is the right one. How can you say to worship an image like this is wrong? Those people ONLY believe that it is a representation of some ‘heavenly’ beings who they worship.  I know members of the born against go to their own ‘church’ to pray. Why? Is your god there?

        And have you been to that place to face the judgment of god? Seems you already witnessed what happened in that figment of your imagination. Oh I see you read that in that fictional book.

  • bugoybanggers

    Aangal na naman ang mga pakialamerong ingiterong mga MAKALIWA nito. Ang sa akin lang ay hayaan na lang natin sila. Mahirap ng mag comment tungkol dito at pagdidiinan na naman ang kanyang personal thoughts. Okay mga MAKALIWA (protestante, INC, evangelista, kulto atbp.) sara muna bigbig o pigil type sa KB. Pansinin nalang ninyo ang inyo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7US4SIEZOJLP4A3BQLYYDY6UWQ Kim

    Ang pananampalataya ng tunay na Kristiyano ay ayun sa Bibliya…hindi sa kung anu anu…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

      korek ka, pero kung hindi ka naniniwala sa mga milagro ay nasa iyo na yun. Ikaw ay isang good example ng mga tao sa Europe nung panahon ng reformation, kaya ano na ang Europe ngaun puro atheist na. Remember it was in the apparition of Fatima that communist  Russia (USSR) was prophesied to fall

    • bugoybanggers

      Mag MUSLIM ka na lang. Wag kang madldal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

    tilamsik ng ihi na itinapon ni aling nena mula sa arinola…..sana pakilinisan na at marami ang nalilinlang.

    • bugoybanggers

      Kung bastos ang tingin mo dito babastosin din kita! Mga ungas mong PASTOR! MGA DUWAG, walang BAYAG! Tumahimik ka! Gusto mo mag espadahan tayo sa IMPYERNO?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      BAKA NAMAN MALAYO KA, KAYA WALANG NAKITANG ARINOLA…O MALAMANG NANGANGANDAMAKMAK KA SA LAMAN KUNG BAKIT HANGGANG DITO AY SUMISINGASING ANG AMOY MO!

  • Datukalun

    Yes the Coming is near.All are waiting for the Messiah

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    There is no miracle…. its only a word of less believer. People must always put in their  mind that….God is God, Human is Human…… whatever ever God can do human can never do! They saw it outside the window how about inside the window what is in there? I profer solemnly prayer if there is happen beyond the capacity of mankind.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Gusto ko lang pong alamin ang malalim na katotohanan kung gaano ito ka totoo o gawa gawa lamang. Ang lahat po kasing nakikita na produkto ng kamay ay pwedeng gawa gawa lamang para mapaniwala ang mga tao …. gaya po ng Bibliya o ano mang basahin ay isang produkto ng kamay na pwedeng mabago o mapalitan, na pwede namang basihan at giya kung paano mabuhay sa communidad subalit hindi naman pwedeng isang tabi ang katotohanan na may mga nangyayari sa mundong ibabaw na hindi kayang ipaliwanag ng siyensiya at sarili nating kaalaman.

    Kung ang tao ay nagbabasa ng Bibliya at naniniwala sila dito bakit nagiging isang kasalungatan ang mga resulta na nasasabi sa Bibliya? Sa akin lang yong mga taong halos memorized na ang Bibliya at hindi naniniwala sa mga pangyayari na may kababalaghan na hindi pweding kayang isplika  ng tao (na siyang nilalang lamang)…. ang kaalaman nilang iyon sa Bibliya ay hanggang sa papel, salita at pagbabasa lamang.

  • Pablo316

    People should be warned that any apparitions or visions purportedly coming from Mary the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ, whether they be real or hoax is 100 percent coming from a deceiving spirit and people will be better off just ignoring such occurrences.
     
    This is due to the fact that Mary was already dead and is also awaiting the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ in the same way as the apostles and all true Christians who have died already. That is why you can be sure that such events are orchestrated by deceiving spirits.
     
    Better read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Bible for with the wisdom and understanding you will get will surely lead to true salvation and you will surely please God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
    God bless!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

      you and the so-called born-again christians never truly understand the passages in the bible. If you read and study the account of Transfiguration where Jesus was on His Holiness  and conversing with Moses and Elias. We all both know that Moses and Elias were dead thousand years and a hundred years before Jesus was born by Mary. How come they were talking with Jesus and alive. If both Moses, which God refered as His friend in O.T. and Elias as His greatest prophet were alive with God, does it not possible that Mary who carried our Lord on her womb was also alive and with God. Being the mother of Jesus do you think God will allow Mary’s body to decay. If Enoch, Melchizedek and Elias were all raised up in heaven without dying on earth, would God not also do it to Mary.

      Have you know what inside the Ark of the covenant in the old testament? The Ark where Moses and the Israelites diligently protecting. Only Moses and Aaron and his sons were allowed to  come near the Ark of the covenant. And those who were not authorized by God to come near it died when they touch it. Even David never touched nor went inside the Ark of the Covenant. Inside the Ark were the two slabs of stones,where the 10 commandments were written by God and the Manna, which were the food given by GOd to the Israelites in the deserts. Jesus came to the womb of Mary. Saint. John described Jesus on his gospel as the Word that became Flesh. Jesus offered His body as food and drink to eat. All this were written in the Gospel of John.

      If the Ark of the Covenant in the old testament that had the ten commandments and the Manna was so holy in the eyes of God and the Israelites, would Mary be the same? She carried the Word of God in her womb. The Word that became Flesh because of Mary’s obedience.

      Besides if born-again are truly bible base and follows what were written, how come they disregards what was written in the gospel of Lukes, when Mary said that she will be called blessed by all generations. Who among us here in our own generations follows the prophesy of Mary?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      These apparitions or visions from Mary, the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ, whether they’re real or hoax, is 100% DRAWING PEOPLE CLOSER TO GOD.  How can they be coming from deceiving spirit? 

      Mary, and other great people who died in the name of the Lord, are being honored and revered by Catholics all over the world.  Their deeds even after their death continue to inspire the living to get closer to God.  They continue to live in our hearts and in our minds…we call them Saints.

      Even the LUTHERANS. they call themselves as such LUTHERANS. after Martin Luther. He is no longer alive now, isn’t it? So, he is already dead! And, we respect that. CAN YOU, IN SAME TOKEN, SHOW RESPECT to other people’s beliefs? By doing so, you can also show that your congregation deserve respect, as well, don’t you think so?

      Now, with the Virgin Mary, and our Saints, beyond their deaths, continue to drive and inspire the living to come closer to God, what is your problem with that?

      Hence, unless you are the deceiving spirit,  the beliefs and practices of anyone in worshipping the ONE AND TRUE GOD deserve to be respected.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        WHAT ARE YOUR RESPONSES TO THIS, Pablo316?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

    Reply to Pablo 316,
    you and the so-called born-again christians never truly understand the passages in the bible. If you read and study the account of Transfiguration where Jesus was on His Holiness  and conversing with Moses and Elias. We all both know that Moses and Elias were dead thousand years and a hundred years before Jesus was born by Mary. How come they were talking with Jesus and alive. If both Moses, which God refered as His friend in O.T. and Elias as His greatest prophet were alive with God, does it not possible that Mary who carried our Lord on her womb was also alive and with God. Being the mother of Jesus do you think God will allow Mary’s body to decay. If Enoch, Melchizedek and Elias were all raised up in heaven without dying on earth, would God not also do it to Mary.
    Have you know what inside the Ark of the covenant in the old testament? The Ark where Moses and the Israelites diligently protecting. Only Moses and Aaron and his sons were allowed to  come near the Ark of the covenant. And those who were not authorized by God to come near it died when they touch it. Even David never touched nor went inside the Ark of the Covenant. Inside the Ark were the two slabs of stones,where the 10 commandments were written by God and the Manna, which were the food given by GOd to the Israelites in the deserts. Jesus came to the womb of Mary. Saint. John described Jesus on his gospel as the Word that became Flesh. Jesus offered His body as food and drink to eat. All this were written in the Gospel of John.
    If the Ark of the Covenant in the old testament that had the ten commandments and the Manna was so holy in the eyes of God and the Israelites, would Mary be the same? She carried the Word of God in her womb. The Word that became Flesh because of Mary’s obedience.
    Besides if born-again are truly bible base and follows what were written, how come they disregards what was written in the gospel of Lukes, when Mary said that she will be called blessed by all generations. Who among us here in our own generations follows the prophesy of Mary?

    • Pablo316

      There is no denying that Mary was indeed a holy and a blessed person, no genuine Bible-believing Christian would deny that. However what the Bible is silent about we should not add or deduct from it otherwise we will end up speculating or conjecturing. This is in accordance with the command in the Bible not to add or subtract from its content, as the Bible puts it:
       
      “Do not go beyond what is written.” (1 Corinthians 4:6)
       
      So these apparitions are nothing but a misleading and a deception from evil spirits, and people who believe such occurrences and supposedly repented and became pious are plunged into a much deeper state of deception that only the grace of God thru the Holy Spirit will be able to extract them from such darkness. Thus we have to live by the light of the Bible so that what the Lord Jesus said will not happen to us:
       
      “If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!” (Matthew 6:23)
       
      Read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Bible God-fearing and God-loving people!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Anythiing or anyone that inspires people to come closer to God is not unholy. 
        On the contrary, the one who is discouraging people to get closer to God is the evil one, misleading and deceiving people? 

        THE MERE FACT THAT YOU HAVE INSERTED YOURSELF INTO THIS PIOUS ASSEMBLAGE OF THE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF TRUE FAITH SHOWCASES YOUR FEELINGS OF DESPAIR AND ENVY.

        THAT’s ONE OF THE 7 DEADLY SINS…on top of your BEARING FALSE WITNESS and BLASPHEMOUS ATTEMPTS TO DRIVE PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE ONLY ONE AND TRUE GOD.

        You are an intruder into our congregation with desperate attempts to cause confusion. Why don’t you stay with the likes of you, like ETEP XENA…WHY, DON’T YOU LIKE EACH OTHER?

      • Pablo316

        It was enough for me to warn you people based on the words of God that these so-called Mary apparitions are the working of evil deceiving spirits which will lead you to being condemned by God for such an evil practice. You thought that it leads you to the one true God but the truth is you are being deceived to worship a being that is the antichrist by pretending that she is also a mediator between God and man.
         
        Remember this warning for in front of the judgment seat of God this warning will serve as a testimony against your soul if you will not repent of this sin and reject the seduction of demons.
         
        If you really want to worship the one true God and the Lord Jesus Christ, go to the Bible for inspiration and do not listen to those evil spirits pretending to be an angel of light.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        You have said so much…but, you did not comment on what I said that anyone or anything who drives people to get closer to God is not unholy…it is, in fact, holy.

        And, you did not say anything to my statement that the one who is discouraging people to come to God is the evil one. misleading and deceiving people.

      • Pablo316

        If you will read my comments, you will know that the deception lies in pretending to invite people closer to God by believing in these false Mary and apparitions which are nothing but works of deceiving spirits, the truth is this is driving people farther away from the true God and the true message of the Bible by encouraging people to consider another mediator between God and man other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
         
        If you want to draw people closer to God, point them to the truth, encourage them to read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Bible which alone contains the whole truth about God and about what God wants us to do. Do not point them to these lifeless idols and to these deceiving apparitions because they are not the work of God but the work of demons.
         
        I hope you will now get the point.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        My words are simple and easy to understand — anything (including the Bible), or anyone (including the human beings thru whom Jesus Christ came to us, human beings, such as Virgin Mary and the Saints who propagate His teachings) are holy.

        And, anyone who cause or discourage people to come closer to God are the evil ones.

        CAN’T YOU CLARIFY YOUR RESPONSE ON SIMPLE AND LAYMAN’S LANGUAGE?

        You’ve been confining your contentions about Bible excerpts…I am not questioning your knowledge about the Bible, my question was simply WHY ARE YOU DISCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET CLOSER TO GOD?

      • Pablo316

        Because the god you thought you are getting closed to is not the God of the Bible. That is why it is called deception! Is that clear to you already?
         
        Read the Bible and get to know God and the Lord Jesus Christ, not from a paganized form of Christianity and from pagan-originated traditions.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        You are insinuating that you’ve been reading the Bible. but you are now saying that the God we are referring as the ONLY ONE TRUE GOD  who blessed Virgin Mary to bear his son, Jesus Christ, whose teachings the disciples spread, is not the God of the Bible.
        Which Bible are you referring to?  Is there any other Bible than the One where the coming of the Saviour has been detailed?
        You are committing BLASPHEMY…this crystallizes you are the deceiving spirit.

        THANKS BE TO GOD THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE SAME FATHER, WHOM WE ADDRESS THE CATHOLIC’s THE LORD’s PRAYER…”Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name, Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven.  Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.  AMEN.

      • jenny lim

        Pablo: MARK 9:40 — FOR WHOEVER IS NOT AGAINST US IS FOR US!

        Manloloko ka, kung anung pinagsasabi mo. Mary’s apparitions brought conversion to people, repentance of sins, change of hearts, change of life.  Those who truly devote themselves to Mary become closer to God and live in peace and abundance.

        Sabihin ko sa’yo, useles ang pagbasa ng bibliya kung ito’y hindi magbabago ng buhay mo at mapalapit ka sa Diyos. 

        The point is not the Bible, gets mo, not the Bible, the point is MAPALAPIT TAYO SA DIYOS.

        Kung ang bibliya mo Pablo ay naging kaagapay sa panghuhusga ng kapwa…yung bibliya mo na puede ring gamitin ni Satanas ay siya magdadala sa’yo sa kapahamakan. 

        Kaya ‘wag kang mandamay ng tao.  Ok kami sa paniniwala namin, bumait kami at hindi naging mapanghusga sa kapwa.

        Kung magbasa man ako ng bibliya at maging kagaya mo, magbasa na lang ako ng komiks.

        Fake preachers – kulang sa pinag-aralan!

      • Pablo316

        You can go on with your addiction to these idols and demonic messages from these apparitions, what is important is that you have been warned that such practices are detestable to the one true God of the Bible and that you are deceived into believing that you have been brought near to the one true God and to the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible.
         
        That’s the very reason why it is called deception because it projects itself as though it’s the real thing but it is not. That is why I pointed them out to you using the Bible because that is what the Bible is all about as it is written:
         
        “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
         
        Mark my word: YOU AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WARNED!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        You are NOT WARNING…YOU ARE JUDGING…

        Now, go back to your gold.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

        how do you know that it came from evil spirit? have the Holy Ghost spoke to you? Remember that it is in the NT Bible that forewarn us about testing if the spirit come from God or not; it say that if the spirit profess that Jesus came down from heaven and became man then he comes from God.

        Did all the apparitions of Mary that were approved by the Vatican as fact contradict the teaching and believe of the Catholic Christians regarding the being God of Jesus Christ?

        Can you name an apparitions of Mary that were approved by the Catholic church, that teaches catholics to disregard Jesus?

        The apparition of Mary to the 3 children of Fatima in 1917 revealed that Mary told the children that communist Russia that left christian religion will be back to christianity after 70 years.

        The Old Testament teaches us that to know if what the prophets on that time prophesied came from God or not was when the prophesy happened.  

        you mentioned 1corinthian 4:6 “Do not go beyond what is written.”, but you’ve forgot to tell us that it was a saying (kasabihan). That saying was well known on Israel on that time and that saying was not written on the OT. You can correct me if you read this saying on the Old testament St. Paul wrote this because its on their traditions. If St. Paul approved of this saying even if it was not written in the OT but an Israelites traditions dating back to Moses that were passed on to the next generations, would the catholic church go wrong if they hang on to traditions handed to them by the early fathers that were disciples of the apostles and the early christians.

        Besides St. Paul wrote in 1Tim 3:15 ” the CHURCH was PILLAR and Foundation of Truth.” He never mentioned the bible nor his writings!!!

      • Pablo316

        When the apostle Paul said “do not go beyond what is written” he was alluding to the command in the Old Testament not to add nor subtract anything from what was written in the Law but there is no use giving you Bible verses seeing that you are hell-bent on worshipping those idols and listening to deceiving spirits.
         
        Go on then as the Lord Jesus Christ said:
         
        “Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Revelation 22:11)
         
        Just remember you have been warned and when the time comes that you will stand before the judgment seat of God, this warning will testify against you, so repent of this evil, reject this idols and those messages from all these apparitions, read the Bible and obey them and you will be saved, while there is yet time for you to repent and obey the true message of the Gospel.

      • Filpino

        naks. do you really think that christianity spreads throughout the world using the bible on its early stage after the last apostle died?

        printing press was invented on the 16th century only and the catholic monks on that time copied the bible manually using their hands.

        early christians went to the pagan places propagating the Christian faith by means of what they heard and saw to the disciples before them and they were traditions.

        suppose that printing press was in existence on much earlier date and there would be so much copies of the bible. those bible will be of no use to the pagan world because most of the people on that time never knew how to read and write.

        you try to go to the tasaday tribes in Mindanao and proclaim Jesus to them by using the bible verses by verses, chapter by chapter, lets see if you can convince at least one of them to be a christian.

        now try what the catholics are doing in proclaiming Jesus to the pagan world;

        they went to the pagan places, eat with them, sleep with them, learn the pagan language, learn their cultures and customs, caress their children and the sick, teach them to write and read and then tell the story of Jesus in a manner that they can easily understand. Thats how the early disciples did when they came to france, england, russia, india and other parts of europe. they don’t have bible in them when they teached about Jesus in the pagan world.

        Jesus before He went to heaven commanded His apostles to go and proclaim the Good News in Jerusalem then Judea then Samaria and then to the rest of the world. He never instructed them to sit down and write a book about Him. That is why most of the apostles have no authorship in the NT bible.

          

      • Pablo316

        While it is true that some of the early Christians shared the Christian faith by speaking only the message of the Gospel from their believing hearts yet that message was in accordance with what was later on written as the New Testament.
         
        It is not true that the Lord Jesus Christ did not ask His followers to write His messages because the following are written:
         
         “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.” (Revelation 1:19)
         
        “Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” (John 20:30-31)
         
        “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:14-17)
         
        Now let me ask you, how can you be sure that the Gospel you believed was indeed the Gospel that was preached by the apostles? Unless it will be consigned in writing, no person still endowed with a reasonable mind will think that all of these teachings have come down to us through the 2000 years by mere oral traditions.
         
        I am amazed that you claim the apostles have no authorship of the Bible. Soon afterwards the books contained in the Bible were written down by the apostles with the authority of being scriptures, as the following verses show:
         
        “After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also read in the church of the Laodiceans and that you in turn read the letter from Laodicea.” (Colossians 4:16)
         
        And also the apostle Peter himself commenting here after he read all of Apostle Paul’s writings:
         
        “He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” (2 Peter 3:16)
         
        And how can the early Christians take heed of the following stern warning if they don’t have anything to base on except their oral traditions?
         
        “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!” (Galatians 1:8-9)
         
        Further how can the Berean believers confirm whether what the apostle Paul is saying is true or not if they don’t have the Bible? (which at this time are composed of the Old Testament books only for the reason that the New Testament message are already contained in the Old Testament but still concealed while the Old Testament is in the New Testament explained) as it is written:
         
        “Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11)
         
        However all of these proofs will be worth nothing if you are really intent on worshipping these idols or to lend your ears to these deceiving spirits and teachings.

      • Filpino

        naks.. gawin mo hindi puro kayo verses sa bible. punta ka sa mindanao maghikayat ka duon ng katutubo gamit mga verses mo sa bible. saka ka magsabi kung epektibo. puro kayo ngawa wala naman gawa.

        Ilan ba ang Catholic church sa buong mundo? Isa! 

        Ilan ang protestant church sa buong mundo? 20,000 plus ayon sa american survey.

        Ilan ang born- again church? Sa Pilipinas palang lagpas libo na. 

        Considering na sinasabi nila na may gabay raw sila ng Holy Spirit.. Sa dami nila ano kayang klaseng spiritu ang bumulong sa mga pastor/minisro nila. hehehe. Magkaisa muna kayo bago nyo tirahin ang catholic church.

      • Pablo316

        To what may be a big surprise to most Roman Catholics, the Lord Jesus Christ never did talk of just a single church but of churches whose totality is His Body or “the Church”.
         
        To illustrate their being distinct from one another, the Lord Jesus sent to them specific messages or letters which contains and details His approval and disapproval of their actions by means of His angels to each of them.
         
        Each of His letters to these churches contain the following similar closing admonition:
         
        “Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
        (Revelation 2:7, 11, 17, 29 & 3:6, 13, 22)
         
        Thus it is ignorance of the written words of God – the Bible, if any church for that matter will claim to be the only church there is for the Lord Jesus Christ and worse to claim that only they contains the truth. This has been the claims of cults throughout the Christian history.
         
        Therefore knowledge of the words of God is necessary so that each church and individual believers should be guided accordingly and avoid the deceitful scheming of the enemy.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        We are referring to the Church Jesus Christ referred to when He said He would build His Church “ON THIS ROCK”, thru Saint Peter, who we also referr to as “the Rock”.   Saint Peter then became the very First Pope of the Church Jesus Christ Himself built, founded on the rock, hence, unbreakable, boundless, universal, Catholic.

      • Pablo316

        The Church (not the Roman Catholic Church) was indeed founded by the Lord Jesus Christ on a Rock foundation, who’s Rock is no other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
         
        Note that this Rock or Stone is not the Apostle Peter who RCC claims to be their first pope by flaunting Matthew 16:18-19 whereas it was the apostle Peter himself who identified for us who that Stone or Rock is on two occasions. Listen to him:
         
        “As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by human beings but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in Scripture it says:
         
        “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
         
        Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.”
         
        They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.” (1 Peter 2:4-8)
         
        And again:
         
        “Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’” (Acts 4:11)
         
        Now understandably this will hurt but that is what the truth is: there is no Roman Catholic Church in existence back in 33 AD, unless of course you want to re-write history like some cults do. In fact the Christian Church can be properly considered to have started in Acts chapter 2 during the Pentecost of 33 AD.
         
        RCC was created by pagan Rome in 325 AD and that by a pagan emperor in a pagan setting. What happened is more of a paganized Christianity rather than a Christianized paganism. Besides it was only the majority (meaning not all) of the nominal Christians of that time that succumbed to the enticement of the pagan world. This seduction of the nominal Christian groups in the year 300’s resulted in the adulterous marriage between them and the carnal pagan world (in the person of the ruling Roman Empire represented by Constantine I), the union that gave birth to what we now call the Roman Catholic Church.
         
        While this happened minority Christians like the Novatians (ca. 250 AD), the Donatists (ca. 311 AD) and the Arians (ca. 300 AD) and others were persecuted and demonized by the newly formed Roman Catholic Church, which is by the way if you will notice is first Roman, second Catholic or universal (no contest about that) and third Church but not necessarily a Christian one.
         
        RCC even falsely claimed that they are the only church there is of the Lord Jesus Christ (the same claim made by other smaller cults) whereas when the Lord Jesus Christ wrote personal letters to His churches (note ‘churches’ meaning plural’) with each letter containing merits and demerits for each church (a further proof that they are different churches), the Lord never ever mentioned the Roman Catholic Church specifically by name. Whereas anyone who will study the Bible will come to the conclusion that RCC best represents the ‘Famous Prostitute’ described in the Bible.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        So, be contented with what you know, and leave other people to their beliefs and practices, HINDI YANG PINAHIHIRAPAN MO AT PINAGDURUSA ANG SARILI MO SA INGGIT.

      • Pablo316

        Why in the world should I envy those who worship idols and lend their ears to messages of demons?
         
        I am just plainly telling you and others who do such detestable thing that you are heading to hell if you will not repent of this evil practice.

  • anu12345

    The born against will laugh at this

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Let them laugh…that’s how they want people to feel…the truth of the matter ay NAGPUPUTOK ANG BUTSE NILA…tulad ni Pablo 316…bakit mo ipagpuputok ng butse ang anumang bagay na maglalapit sa tao sa Diyos?  Kung gusto niyang magligtas ng kaluluwa, higit na nararapat na ipagdasal na lamang niya ang mga tao ng sana’y gabayan ng Panginoon, upang hindi mapariwara.  Halimbawa:  “Panginoon, gabayan mo po kaming iyong mga anak…loobin mo po ang nararapat, para sa ikagagaling ng aming kaluluwa at sa lalong ikadarakila ng iyong Banal na Wika at Pangalan”.

      Sa ginagagwa niya ay naipapakita lamang niya ang galing niya sa Bibliya…parang si Cuevas, na naipakita ang galing sa batas, nguni’t hindi nailigtas ang kaniyang kliyente.

  • Olibo

    Catholic Priest Lawrence Andrew is quick to act for press release.This “apparitions” will be investigated. Good priest.He knows that  a lot of these so called “apparitions” are just products of people’s wild imagination.When people are desperate to look for solutions to their problems, they could easily be deceived by these hoaxes and freaks.The heinous criminal ex-mayor Sanchez of Laguna was interviewed by Ces Drilon of ABS-CBN. Inside his cell showed his knees bruises caused by kneeling down when praying 6x daily, and said the Virgin Mary appeared to him many times through “apparition”.Perhaps in desperate attempt to win the sympathy of public, and use the show as mitigating for his brutal crime.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    May be true, may be not. The Church is investigations hundreds of so called apparitions and miracles, where a big number turned to be hoax, or done by lunatics, or just for money.
    But I believe Mama Mary will use this type of media coverage.

  • serapious

    everything are complimentary on earth, our space and time, what everyone share a comment a part of process for us all redemption, as we are all particles of God..but please try to do more loving comment, coz God is Love..IN CIA ALLAH…Chritian Islamic Affirm-unity all religions ….
    I LOVE yOU ALL…  LoLo Serap 

  • Qwxyz

    kung ang isang pangyayari lalo na kung ito ay tungkol sa pananampalataya at wala sa Bibliya, palagay ko iyan ay isang walang kabuluhan, wala namang nakakaalam ang itsura ng mga propeta, Apostol etc. e lalo pa kaya sina Jose, Maria at ang nagkatawang taong si Kristo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Ang pananampalataya ay isang bagay na mahirap ipaliwanag, subali’t pinaniniwalaan…kaya nga, Faith is believing in something you do not see, cannot explain…but, so long as a person or thing does things that will result to another’s getting closer to God is worthy of honor and reverence…if you believe otherwise, that’s your own choice.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CC6RGRA4KZAH4EKZ4ZA23GI5RY kiehm

    Yong ta3 ko sa inidoro kagaya din nyan.. Baka gusto nila sambahin.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Sa palagay mo ba ang ta3 mo sa inidoro will inspire people to come to God?  If so, bakit mo inilagay sa inidoro?  O marami ka pa niyan…nasa loob ng ulo mo?  Kaya siguro tambak ang mga langaw at uod na tagasunod mo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CC6RGRA4KZAH4EKZ4ZA23GI5RY kiehm

    Paano nila nalaman na si “Virgin Mary” yan?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Paano mo naman malalamang hindi nga?  Nakita mo ba ‘yung nakita nila? Mas marunong ka ba doon sa mga nakakita?

      Ako, hindi ko rin nakita.  Pero, igagalang ko na lang ang saloobin nila, lalu na’t magiging dahilan ‘yon para sa lalong ikalalapit ng kalooban nila sa Diyos.  Ipagdasal na lang natin na sana’y patnubayan sila ng Panginoong Diyos sa kinakaharap nila ngayon.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

    You/ve been charging that all these thiings are false…you/ve quoting excerpts from the Bible, yet you failed to mention that no one has any right to prejudge other people.>>>You will never convince people by causing confusions and false accusations.>>>

  • Olibo

    Sorry to offend you people, but the bible never mentioned that Mary had gone to heaven or people should worship her.In Christianity bible is the sole basis of the true faith. But if someone doesn’t believe what the scriptures said, there’s no point to argue about who’s in the true Christian faith. Whether this ‘apparition’ is fake or not it’s still false to worship that image because it’s idolatry. Diyos lamang at si Cristo ang dapat sambahin ayon sa bibliya.Dapat igalang anuman ang decision ng tao patungkol sa relihiyon,but for the sake of Christianity based on the bible, to worship that image is blasphemy.It should be respected too.      

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      “Pray for us, oh, Holy Mother of God, that we may be worthy of the promises of Christ…that’s one”.  One whole one says, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus…Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.  Amen”.

      NOW, WHICH PORTION IN THESE PRAYERS SAY THAT THE VIRGIN MARY IS WORSHIPPED?

      Jesus Christ also said, no one comes to the Father, except thru Me.  Now, how do we come to Jesus Christ?  Jesus Christ came to us thru the Virgin Mary, a human being, wasn’t it?  God chose and blessed Mary among women to bear Jesus Christ.

      Now, if Jesus Christ used a human being to come to us, what is wrong with us to give reverence that human thru whom, He came to us. The Bible also told Mary that generation to generation, she will be called Holy.

      Now, the same Bible also mentioned that He was sending his 11 disciples to spread the Word of God.  All of the disciples we now call Saints

      We worship only the ONE TRUE GOD.  We give reverence and honor the people who died in the name of the Lord.  Thru meticulous evaluation and years of careful evaluation, the Catholics immortalize the saintly deeds of human beings who sacrificed and died in the name of the Lord, making statues, images and articles.
      Even after their deaths, they serve as inspiration to the living, generation to generation.
      We rever and honor their saintly deeds.
      .
      BUT WE DO NOT WORSHIP THEM, nor their images, their statues and articles.  WE WORSHIP ONLY THE ONE TRUE GOD.  Hence, there is NO BLASPHEMY.  Ang mga nagsasabing wino-worship ang mga, karton or anumang gawa ng tao ay FALSE ACCUSATION, so exploited ng mga INGGITERO o PANINIRA laban sa pinaka-organisadong religious grouping na may centralized leadership sa Vatican. At kung isa ka sa mga inggiterong ito, you may be guilty of BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOR or PREJUDGING OTHERS, both of which the Bible also prohibits
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      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ngayon, kung ang mga namatay para sa bayan ay iginagawa natin ng rebulto, imahen o articles, bakit hindi ang mga namatay para sa Diyos?  Alin ba ang mas mahalaga…ang bayan o ang Diyos?  Ang rebulto ni Jose Rizal ay binabantayan ng dalawang sundalong naka-stand at attention.  Ang kapirasong tele na habang itinataas patungo sa tuktok ng isang poste ay pinapakitaan natin ng paggalang sa pagtindig nang buong tikas habang inaawit ang Pambansang Awit ng Pilipinas. 

        NGAYON, KUNG SASABIHIN KONG SINASAMBA MO ANG ISTATWA NI RIZAL ANG AT ANG KAPIRASONG TELANG TINATAWAG NATING BANDILA, ANO ANG MARARAMDAMAN MO.

      • Olibo

        Ding, the first paragraph itself is one of the most blasphemous phrases your religion has ever invented.First God has no mother for Our Lord Jesus is not God.Second Lord Jesus doesn’t need a mediator for He is the mediator  Himself.Mary is holy no doubt, but she cannot act as mediator because that’s Lord Jesus’ role and she still in grave.
        Whatever explanation you said about making statues, articles to immortalize the saints makes people more confused because that is absolute idolatry.
            During the Black Nazarene festival in Quiapo people get injured and some died of this wild revelry or festivity.Look at atrocities of RCC committed in “the inquisition”.Paedophile cases are pending in court, the latest one is in Australia.The “vatican leaks” is current. Is this the work of the most organized religion in the world?
             You mentioned Jose Rizal, who ordered his execution? The Catholic Church in connivance with the Spanish Govt. Ang estatwa ni Rizal ay iginagalang hindi sinasamba. Ang hitsura ng kanyang estatwa ay kuha sa litratong gawa ng potograpiya. Ang mga rebultong nasa loob ng simbahan ninyo at mga larawan na ipinagbibili sa mga bangketa ay gawa sa imahinasyon. Salamat.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        MAKABUBUTING SA SARILI MONG SALAMIN SABIHIN ANG MGA PINAGSASABI MO O SA MGA KATULAD MO…HINDI ‘YANG PAHIHIRAPAN MO ANG SARILI MO SA INGGIT.

      • Olibo

        Ding, hindi inggit yun.Malasakit ang tawag duon. Maganda kang mag comment at sa pagbasa ko sa iyo ikaw ay disenteng tao at matalino. Kaya lang pag relihiyon na ang usapan.Medyo nawawala ka sa lugar.Imbestigahan mo ang relihiyon mong kinaaaniban.Kung ang itinuturo ay labag sa utos ng Diyos na ayon sa Bibliya, mag-isip isip ka na.Masakit ang katotohanan pero hindi pa huli.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Hindi tayo matatapos, sorry…I hope you do understand FAITH IS FAITH nothing is irresistible when faith is concerned.  We are called CATHOLICS BECAUSE WE ARE BOUNDLESS…NO LIMITS…UNIVERSAL. Those who do not believe with us, can stay where they want to stay. IYAN ANG MASAKIT NA KATOTOHANAN NA KUNG TATANGGAPIN MO AY MAIIBSAN ANG MGA INGGIT AT PAGKABIGO SA PANINIRANG HINAHANGAD MO.

        Kaya, you can keep yours…simply stay away from us, we’ll consider it as a sign of respect from you.

      • Olibo

        Ding, talagang hindi tayo matatapos dahil nanghihinayang ako sa iyo.Hindi paninira ang pagsasabi ng katotohanan. Wala ng sisirain sa RCC dahil dati nang magulo. bakit di ka magsaliksik Si Hitler ay katoliko. Limiin mo ang krimen na ginawa ng RCC sa panahon ng Inquisition.Sino ang nagpapatay kay Rizal? Ang pagsamba sa diyos-diyosan at mga rebulto ay bawal ng Diyos.Sino ang nagimbento ng purgatoryo?Ano ang mass for the dead?At marami pang kabalbalang pinaiiral ng RCC.Iiwan na kita, sana imbestigahan mo ang relihiyong iyan na kasuklam-suklam sa paningin ng Diyos.Good luck and regards to your family.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        …goodbye…just talk to your ownself…you may enjoy it better…rather than isiksik mo ang sarili mo sa mga ayaw makinig sa sinasabi mo.

        Just, the same…MAY GOOD LORD…THE ONE TRUE GOD …TAKE GOOD CARE OF US.

      • ValencianoEd

        right on the head ding……….

    • jenny lim

       …you are wrong and gravely misinformed. The Blessed Virgin Mary leads us closer to Jesus, she points us to her Son who is God.  Who’s the best person who can help us and lead us better to the Son, isn’t it the mother? That is how we regard Mary and the saints.

      …learn respect too because you simply disrespect others’ faith with your judgment – which needs further examination or research.

    • ValencianoEd

      is everything and I mean, everything, captured in the bible?  if it were so, the bible would be such a big big big book, we cannot even attempt to turn to page 1……..what about the traditions of the early church?  don’t these count?  well, as they say, for a believer,no explanation is necessary; for a non-believer, no explanation will suffice.

      • Olibo

        There’s nothing wrong with the traditions for as long they conform to the teachings of the scriptures.The law against Idolatry since time of Moses is still applied in Christian time, our time.

  • jenny lim

    People should be warned that any blog or comment coming from Pablo here against the Blessed Virgin Mary the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, whether they be real or hoax is 100 percent coming from a deceiving spirit and people will be better off just ignoring his words.
     
    This is due to the fact that Pablo uses the bible to confuse people so that in their confusion they will become his “easy prey”.
     
    Better read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Catholic Church which are solidly based in the Bible interpreted with authority by the bishops and the pope with due regard to apostolic traditions which exist before any book in the new testament put into writing.

    Pablo is asserting his own authority using the bible as his ally.  But if you read between the lines of his posts, it’s his own thinking moving there and bible verses are subtly manipulated to make his points believable or bible based.  What a cunning effort! 

    Remember that it was Judas who insists in his own belief and betrayed the Lord – and Judas was so cunning in carrying his plan – through a KISS! 

    Beware of Pablo’s kiss.

    God bless!

    • Pablo316

      People hate me and revile me if you will, it will not matter to me for I am but a simple Bible-believing Christian and I will not even mind even defending my honor.
       
      Nevertheless if doing so will encourage and challenge you to carefully read study and live the pure and unadulterated teachings of the Bible, THEN PRAISE GOD AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR IT!
       
      After all that’s what I’ve been telling people to do, for I and others who may try to share the truth of the Bible will surely have our shortcomings yet the Bible contains the whole truth about God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
       
      REMEMBER: A Christianity that is not wholly based of the Bible is but a Christianity of our own making and will not even merit recognition before God the Father.
       
      “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
       
      God bless God-fearing and God-loving people who will take the time to know God thru His words!

    • Olibo

      Almost All of the teachings of the Catholic Church are unbiblical and against the Holy scriptures.  Some are as follows:
         Purgatory, Mass for the dead, celibacy or forbidding to marry, abstention to meat, eating of blood, worshipping idols or graven images. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        BAKIT KINAIINGGITAN NIYO?  HINDI KAYO NA LANG MGA KATULAD NIYO ANG MAGSAMA…HINDI ‘YANG DAHIL SA PAGDURUSA NIYO SA INGGIT AT PANGINGIMBULO, NAKIKIALAM KAYO SA FOLLOWERS OF TRUE AND GENUINE FAITH.
        AND, THAT’S ONE OF THE 7 DEADLY SINS — ENVY..

        HERE, IN MY BUTT, PABLO316…MAGSAMA, MAGTULUNGAN KAYO PARA MAIBSAN NANG KAUNTI ANG PAGDURUSA NIYO SA SOBRANG INGGIT..

  • simonibarra27

    Virgin Mary? nasa window bakit d papasukin! mga tanga talaga ang katolikoliko. Di nyo naman sinasamba ang imahe diba? oh bakit pinupunasan ng panyo at dinadasalan? Niluluhuran pa mga ligaw at hipokrito.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Kundangan naman kasi DINADAPUHAK NG SOBRANG INGGIT ANG INUUOD NA QATARANDUHAN MO, pati sa may kato na nga at liku-liko ay DINUDUNGHALIT PA RIN NG PAGKADAIG ANG IMBURNAL NA BULOK MO SA KATAWAN.

      HINDI KAYA MAHIYA ANG MGA NAKAKAKILALA SA ‘YO SA KABABUYAN AT KABASTUSAN MO?  IKATUWA KAYA NG MGA MAGULANG MONG ANAK KA NILA AT KAPATID KUNG MAY KAPATID KA, SA SINASABI MO? KUNG HINDI AY MALAMANG NA IKAW LANG ANG TAGA IMPIYERNO…IKAW ‘TONG SUKSUKAN NG NAPAKATANGA, ANG SARAP-SARAP SA LANGIT KUNG BAKIT NILALABANAN MO ANG DIYOS…MAGDUSA KA SA INGGIT…DIYAN KA LANG SA NAGLILIYAB NA KARAGATAN.

      Ngayon, kung sakali namang isa ka lang nilalang na NAIINGGIT lamang, bakit hindi mo subukang ikaw ang magpapasok kay Virgin Mary sa puso mo, baka sakaling matuto kang gumalang, at maibsan ang mga topak sa bakanteng nasa ulo mo na dapat ay kinalalagyan ng utak.  Baka sakali maibsan ang pagdurusa at inggit sa puso mo, kung may puso ka nga, o kaya sa mga katulad mo na lamang ibahagi ang kabuktutan mo.

      • simonibarra27

        Ding Bading! ipinagtatangol mo pa yang dios diosan nyo! iniaalok mo pa sa puso ko, Kadiri naman Kayong mga sumasamba sa ginawa kaysa sa gumawa ang hahatulan sa dagatdagatang apoy!
        I am like this because I see evil as evil not like you!TANGA alam mo ng yan ang ipinagbabawal sa biblia samba pa kayo ng samba,Alam mo ba, may promo last month! 30% discount si Calunsod kasi di pa na beatified! pag naging santo(nas) magtataas daw yung presyo sabi ng nagbebenta. Ano to barbie doll!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ha…ha…ha…hi…hi…hi…ho…ho…GAG0 !!!

  • simonibarra27

    Ding Bading! ipinagtatangol mo pa yang dios diosan nyo! iniaalok mo pa sa puso ko, Kadiri naman Kayong mga sumasamba sa ginawa kaysa sa gumawa ang hahatulan sa dagatdagatang apoy!
    I am like this because I see evil as evil not like you!TANGA alam mo ng yan ang ipinagbabawal sa biblia samba pa kayo ng samba,Alam mo ba, may promo last month! 30% discount si Calunsod kasi di pa na beatified! pag naging santo(nas) magtataas daw yung presyo sabi ng nagbebenta. Ano to barbie doll!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      WHY DON’T YOU JUST FACE YOUR MIRROR, OR TALK TO YOUR CONSCIENCE, IF YOU HAVE ANY, OR GO BACK TO THE LIKES OF YOU?

      YOU ARE TRESPASSING AND FORCING YOUR UNWANTED PRESENCE HERE.

      YOU DON’T BELONG TO US.

  • Platypus09

    Respect the Catholics as they respect yours or whatever bogus religions you think you have.

    What is difficult for that to understand?

    The problem with this unorthodox Christian Pinoys is that they think they know better but they are not.

    Their belief is only in their heads, some are delusional.

  • Platypus09

    Leave the Catholics alone and let them practice what they believe in.

    You should be thankful that they believe in the same God that you liberal minded Christians worship with some twists.

    Why do we have to fight which and who is right when every people have their own ways of worshiping God?

    If you feel guilty that you abandoned Catholicism and that other Catholics refuse to follow you, then by all means GO BACK to the Catholic church and have a peace of mind.

    Stop fighting with Catholics because your God did not ask you to condemn what others believe in.



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