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RH foes still oppose ‘watered-down’ version of bill

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MANILA, Philippines – The purportedly “watered-down” version of the reproductive health bill now being pushed by the principal author, Representative Edcel Lagman, has failed to win over a group of congressmen opposed to the legislative measure.

Representative Rufus Rodriguez said he and at least 14 other House members reviewed the proposed substitute to House Bill No. 4244. In the end, he said, they came to the conclusion that the proposal “does not solve the main substance of our complaint, which is constitutional [in nature].”

“Some of us already met during the break and we are unanimously against this bill,” he told the Philippine Daily Inquirer by phone. “We fear that these are palliative measures to put some perfume to the bill.”

Despite numerous amendments, the proposed substitute still goes against the constitutional provision that “protects the unborn child from the time of conception,” said the congressman.

Rodriguez said the new version still ran counter to “freedom of religion, the primary duty of the family to rear their children, and the state duty to uphold the protection of parents to found their family in accordance with their religious conviction.”

“That’s why we will continue to oppose the bill,” said the lawmaker, who also cited “procedural issues” that need to be tackled before the proposed substitute could be discussed in plenary.

He said the proposal should go through the committee on population and development, which would have to prepare a committee report to be later tackled by House members in plenary. House members had been furnished copies of the proposal before they went on break.

At this rate, he admitted that there might not be enough time to pass the RH bill during the present Congress. He cited also the absence of many proponents of the bill during plenary deliberations.

“There’s no more time,” he said. “It’s hard to get a quorum already. So if they want to have the bill approved, the pro-RH [congressmen] should have the warm bodies [on the floor].”

Rodriguez argued that the RH bill, which provides for the government’s purchase and distribution of contraceptives to the “poorest of the poor,” was no longer needed. He noted that in the proposed 2013 national budget, P537 million was allocated to the Department of Health for this purpose.

He said the government should instead focus on improving facilities in health centers and public hospitals, instead of creating what he called a “culture of contraception.” He feared that the proposed law would turn such facilities into “centers for contraception.”

“They are supposed to be for the delivery of healthy babies,” he said.

One proposed amendment no longer guarantees “universal” but “public” access to “relevant information and education on medically safe, legal, ethical, affordable, effective and quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices, and supplies.”

Beneficiaries would supposedly come mainly from “marginalized households,” which would be determined through the National Household Targeting System for Poverty Reduction.


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Is anyone actually surprised by this?

    There is no point in negotiating with some people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    As I have commented before, even if it’s only a single-page bill with only the title RH on it, still these rabid defenders of RC church will surely oppose it no matter what.

    Put the original version of the RH bill to a vote now and be done with it once and for all. It will be the public who will eventually judge the actions of their representatives, whether they are listening to the voices of their constituents or to CBCP’s.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP TALIBAN BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MOREFUN IN THE PHILIPPINES’

  • divictes

    Nitpickers.

  • dickenhead

    give them one finger they will want to chew your whole hand, to hell with them. Pass the RH bill NOW!

    • catherine sien

       sorry po but I say TRASH THE RH BILL NOW!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • dikoy321

    Let us also CAMPAIGN against anti-RH bill candidates, so they LOSE in May 2013!
    Let us Organize ourselves, friends, neighbors.
    The nation has to know!

    Forward Philippines !!!

    • catherine sien

       i am sorry po but I will only vote for anti-RH bill candidates.

      • Diepor

        Is it nice to be so uneducated. Everything is so black and white.

  • catherine sien

    Please read po the RH bill and whatever amendments they have and you will know why the whole of the bill is unacceptable.  It is not a matter of nitpicking or of a single page or even of negotiating.  Pasyensya na po but i think it is time we JUNK THE BILL!  Instead of an RH bill promoting the use of artificial methods of contraception, sex education at an early age and population control, among others, legislators should FILE another bill at the next congress.  This time, file a bill that
    will truly promote reproductive health and its true meaning, e.g.,  maternal health, child care, protection of the unborn, etc.  or an HR (Human Resources and its development) bill. Thank you po.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      The best thing to do is to put the bill to a vote and ultimately decide if this congress wants it passed or junked.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP BISHOPS TALBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    MAGKANO KAYA ANG MAWALA KAY SEREPINTI AY REPRESENTANTING LAGMAN KUNG HINDI ITO MAGING BATAS ANG RH BILL?

    • catherine sien

       ito po siguro ang sinasabi nating ‘corrupt’. hindi po dapat ganito ang ating mga mambabatas.

  • rtsantos2012

    Pass the bill now, those who are against it are CBCP lover as well as the lover of the corrupt and not so holy Vatican.  

    • catherine sien

      sana po we should not be judgemental.  the bill has nothing to do with CBCP or Vatican.  both are just doing what they need to do – to guide the faithful to what is morally right.  those against the RH bill are the silent majority who hold the truth.

      • Bli tz

        you are contradicting your own stand. how’d you know that the silent majority is against the RH bill? and how did you know that they hold the truth? what is truth? what is morally right? the church investment in BPI is 20B pesos gaining how much interest? where are those money going to? the same system the friars are doing since spanish time. getting donations/contributions from the people, but who are benefiting? come to think of it? is it not hypocritical to say that you are pro-poor, but you would not lift a finger to alleviate their condition?

      • catherine sien

         please po, don’t let your hatred for some who are in the Church get in the way.  same question po — how did you know that  they, the Church people are not lifting a finger to alleviate their condition?  as we all know they are the first ones helping. 

      • Bli tz

        when someone present facts, never do circular arguments. no, i am not talking to a kid. maybe you do have hatred in your mind. glad that you ask.. i’m located here in Tondo sorrounded by the poorest of the poor, slum areas, drug addicts and goons. somehow, that would answer your question “how”. where are you located? how did you know that they are the first ones helping? hypocritical lier. now, can you answer the presented truth and not just counter questioning?

      • rtsantos2012

         Your are really behind your time, what silent majority you are talking about?, The majority of the Filipinos are for more powerful RH Bill or the original version, but to please those CBCP people for their votes and influence with their faithfuls, it was watered down to practically useless version, and still those wet noodle backbone politicians we have are still not satisfied. Go back and read more about the result of the poll done on previous occasions about RH bill to enlightened yourself.

      • catherine sien

         sorry po but i do not agree with you.  in the same manner, how did you know that the majority of the filipinos are for the RH bill?  as far as i have seen, on TV debates, on radio, in social networking, in surveys,  people are against the RH bill. even in batasan, the ones who occupy the seats for the bill tell us they don’t even know why they are there.  i know because i asked.  you make sweeping statements po and i am just replying to these.

      • rtsantos2012

         Work on the scientific and independent survey to enlighten yourself instead of learning from several unsupported survey done by some vested interest, and I will not be surprise if those surveys are paid for by the CBCP approved by the corrupt and not so holy Vatican.

      • catherine sien

         that is your opinion po.  maybe all that you are saying herein applies to your side including the paying for such things.  such a pity you seem to have so much hatred in your heart against those in the Church.  you are focussed on your hatred.  try po to see some light but first maybe transform that hate to love…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN” IN THE PHILIPPINES”

      • rtsantos2012

         Yee right, the more people there is the more tax free donation from their faithfuls or rather a Damaso like victims.

  • docbien

    “At this rate, he admitted that there might not be enough time to pass the RH bill during the present Congress. He cited also the absence of many proponents of the bill during plenary deliberations.
    “There’s no more time,” he said. “It’s hard to get a quorum already. So if they want to have the bill approved, the pro-RH [congressmen] should have the warm bodies [on the floor].” (cited from the article)

    Eh kasalanan din pala ng mga pro-RH bill lawmakers kung bakit hindi mapasa ang bill na yan. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    Those who want the bill pass, they are the owner of motels, condom suppliers or any form of contrceptives, human traffickers, or may ari ng mga casa, for sure if this bill will pass, parami ng parami at pabata ng pabata ang mga sex workers. 

    • Diepor

      Stupid

      • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

        It could be an stupid openion DIEPOR for YOU, cause YOU might be one of them as I stated before….. Talasan mo nga ang pag iisip mo kung ano ang pweding mangyari pagka na pass ang bill na ito,,,in a very young age alam na ng mga kabataan kung ano ang dapat gawin para d mabuntis at wala ng katakottakot na sila ay magkasakit….Itoy madulot lamang ng dagdag katamaran sa ating kababayan,,, dahil they are more educated that they safe sa trabahong paghiga sarap, pagtayo tupad ang pangarap…. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/I45NQCRSR5CUX23NKP3NAXO5KE Dan

    Ibasura ang RH Bill ! . . . Ang isulong ay Edukasyon, Pangkalusugan at Ekonomia.

    • catherine sien

       YES!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/I45NQCRSR5CUX23NKP3NAXO5KE Dan

        Kapag laganap ang tamang edukasyon, kahit sa ano mang larangan…..maiintindihan at mabibigyan ng tunay na kahalagahan ang salitang pananagutan o “responsibility”…….na magtuturong iingatan ang kumunidad at susupilin ang ano mang balakid sa panlipunang kalusugan ……..Kapag malusog ang bayan…yayabong ang ekonomia…di ba?

  • blainz

    Place the original RH Bill on a plebiscite to run alongside the 2013 elections. The legislators have vacillated long enough, let the people have their direct say.

    End the squabbling by getting out which side has the majority once and for all.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

      I like this suggestion as it would reflect the true sentiment of the people.

  • Viktor von Gerdenheim

    Ironic that these politicians against the bill would use the reasoning of  “freedom of religion” in their opposition to the RH Bill.  Why?

    1.  The RH Bill was never meant to force anyone to go against their religious views.  If they did not want to use artificial contraceptives, they are free not to do so.  The RH Bill will not force them to use condoms, take pills, or even to put a limit the number of their children.

    2.  It’s a lie that the RH bill provision of providing contraceptives to the poorest of the poor is no longer needed.  On the contrary, even with the health budget, many poor families are not able to have access to contraceptives in places like Manila where EO 03 was imposed by former Mayor Lito Atienza – banning the distribution of any contraceptive product in health centers.  This has been followed by others. 

    So, yes.  We actually NEED a law to ensure that the poorest of the poor do get access to methods of family planning.

    3.  Delivering healthy babies is also dependent on keeping healthy mothers.  That’s not possible when a mother has had 12 kids and not enough means of supporting their and her nutritional needs.  That’s also something that the RH Bill seeks to address. 

    4.  Not all people of the Philippines follow the dogma espoused by the anti-RH.  In opposing the bill due their own religious views, these politicians are forcing their dogma on those people who don’t share in it. 

    That’s a violation of a person’s freedom of choice and a person’s freedom of religion as enshrined in the constitution.

    • rtsantos2012

       Well done.

    • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

      Passing this RH bill will be clearly a violation of person’s freedom of choice since it will be mandated and people under republic of the Phil. should follow.. right? Couples having 12 kids is the result of poor Parenthood awareness that the government need to make a program. Government should pass a bill that those families who cannot send thier children to private college Universities will study in Government School kaso lang anak parin ng mga mayaman ang maka pag aral sa UP o may ilan lang ang anak mahirap…kahit saan Politiko parin kung hindi ka tao ni Mayor or Seripenti ay Representanti di ka kapasa sa entrance. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

      • Viktor von Gerdenheim

         It seems you haven’t read the bill seeing as how you appear to just echo the propaganda of the anti-RH camp that the bill will force people to use contraceptives.

        Once again:

        The RH Bill will NOT force couples to use contraceptives or to limit the number of their children.  If a couple wants to use natural family planning methods as espoused by the church and to have 20 children, then they are free to do so.

        Nothing in the RH Bill will prevent them or punish them for not using contraceptives, not wearing condoms, or having 20 children.

        All it offers is choice and making sure that choice is available to all people.

        It’s very easy to say that the government should do this or the government should do that.  Unfortunately, people who make that statement don’t seem to think of the needs in implementing them.  Case in point: your statement that the government should fund the studies of the poor.

        The government is already subsidizing education.  The problem is that it cannot support the sheer number of students who want to enroll.

        No government can adequately support the needs of 1,000,000 students on a budget for only 100,000.

      • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

        Passing this bill into law without inforcing it is just a wasting money and time debating in congress  wherein there are lot of problems in our country that need more attention than this. passing this bill into law if will not force couple to limit their number of children so what’s the use of this law? just to educate? we are already educated and well informed before getting married through PRECANA sa simbahan hindi nagkulang ang simbahan sa pagpaalala kung anu dapat gawin and about family planning it works very well. At maliban sa simbahan nandyan rin ang Barangay Heatlh Workers di rin nagkulang…. so ano paba ang kulang? Ang masama lang dito sa RH na ito ay to be introduce in simula High School level na kadalasan sa edad na yan nasa edad ang kabataan sa curiousity stage that may result into more and early pre marital sex. And it could abuse some of imoral teachers kase legal ng sabihin sa loob ng paaralan ang di dapat sabihin. And early education oubout safe sex with different sex partner may result to more getting into prostitution, dahil comportable ang mga batang kababayan natin na safe sila sa trabahong paghiga sarap pagtayo tupad ang pangarap……BILL that aim more job and education is needed not RH….. Samlpe lang Mr. Victor, yung mga gradute natin sa TOURISM saan ba sila na punta? call center? pulis? actibista? and some sad to say VIP scort the decent word for prostitution? Bakit d gumawa ng batas ang ating lawyers na mag obliga sa mga tourist agencies na dapat mga pinay o pinoy ang tourist guide. dahil tayo ang mas may alam kung ano ang mayroon tayo.Pero ano nangyari ibang lahi ang naging tourist guide imbes may trabaho na sana kababayan natin ninakaw pa sa atin at sino nakinabang dito politiko binayaran lang ng ilang libo pikit mata na. Ito sana dapat tingnan natin. Mahirap lang po kami pero d issue sa amin ang family planning at pagtupad namin sa aming pangarap. just a matter of sacrifies…. kaya wake up…… NO TO RH BILL

      • Viktor von Gerdenheim

         Enforcing this law does not mean forcing people to do something against their faith.  The freedom to have as many children as you want and the use of whatever method of family planning you want are guaranteed in the constitution.  This bill will not affect those. With this statement, I can only think that you are either mistaken (at best) of lying (to try and turn people against the RH Bill).

        Enforcing this law means that people (namely those of the CBCP persuasion) will not be able to force others to subscribe to their own dogma.  The main effect of this law is to guarantee that people right to choose their method of family planning will be guaranteed.  That means people like Atienza will no longer be able to deny the citizens their freedom to choose the family planning method that they want.

        Also, try to read on more factual information with regards to which group of teenagers are more likely to engage in pre-marital sex.

        Hint:  It’s not those who have had a more comprehensive sex education program.

        Another thing:  Sex education does not teach about sex with multiple partners.  True sex education discuss the biological (reproductive process) as well as the health and social consequences.

        As for your statements with regard to tourist guides,  it’s easy to say “Only Filipinos can show the beauty of the Philippines.”  But once again, you forget other aspects of the business.  Like:

        How will a person speaking only Chinese appreciate only English of Tagalog descriptions?

        P.S.  -  Philippine tour agencies employ Filipino tour guides.  Foreign tour agencies, however, employ their own citizens to act as tour guides here in the Philippines.  Just thought you should know.

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    Why not replacing RH to RP bill as REPUBLIC PARENTHOOD na ang layunin ay instead  ang mga bata direktang turuan paano gamitin at safe ang mga contraceptives sa RH as ROAD to the HILL,,,,,, Ang RP> 
    REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES sa RP>REPUBLIC PARENTHOOD ay maglayunin maglaan ng pundo ang GOBYERNO na e educate ang mga magulang paano palakihin ang mga anak at paano mabigyan ng trabaho ang mga magulang na walang trabaho para mapaaral ang kanilang mga anak….. programang maglaan ng pundo para sa bawat barangay makaroon ng simenar paano mag alaga ng mga manok, baboy, baka, o kung ano ano pa pahiramin ng puhunan ang mga magulang na walang trabaho at walang pinag aralan. Abutin ang mga magulang ng ating mga Gobyerno d lang sa nalalapit ang halalan ng sa ganon malapit ang  mga mamayan sa Gobyerno di sa mga Rebelde. Programa para sa mga magulang na walang trabaho na kung silay tapat sa Gobyerno ang mga isa o ilan sa kanilang mga anak makapag aral sa SCHOOL NOW pay the tuation when you have WORK……sa katunayan EDUKASYON at TRABABO ang kulang ng ating kababayan…Maraming trabaho sa ating Bansa pero dahil sa Kurapsyon kaya maraming walang trabaho sa atin,,,, Tulad nalang ng Turismo,,,, maraming PILIPINO at PILIPINA na nakatapos sa kursong TOURISM pakatapos saan napunta? TULISM,PULISM, ACTIVISM, bakit?  dahil sa KURAPSYON ng ating gobyerno sa field ng tourism, kung KOREAN tourest KOREAN ang tour guide, kung JAPANESE tourest JAPANESE din ang tour guide na kung tutuusin tayo ang mas makapagpaliwanag kung ano ang mayroon tayo. Kaya kung ano man ang problima natin ngayon HINDI RH bill ang sagut nito….EDUKASYON, TRABAHO at tanggalin ang KURAPSYON…….RH bill is not REPUBLIC HEALTH bill!!!!!!!!!! it’s ROAD toHILL billl…… thanks…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

    If both sides has come to a point where neither is willing to compromise then just PUT THIS BILL TO A VOTE. That way this congress can ultimately decide on the fate of this bill, at least for now…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      CBCP BISHOPS SAY REPRODUCTON IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

    • catherine sien

      in the same manner po…if neither is willing to compromise then TRASH the RH bill.  obviously, if there are objections and for so long now and through many congresses — then it is not worth any vote po. the bill has been filed and refiled, words are being juggled, ‘amended’ but the concept remains.  that is why it is always being objected to, year after year after year. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS TALIBAN SAY REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

  • kilabot

    call it any name you like it’s still not the solution to poverty.
    one of the following will help alleviate poverty, which is it?
     1) give free artificial birth control contraceptives (aka 17B rh bill) to control population growth;
     2) use of natural birth control techniques (aka hit-n-run) to control population growth;
     3) encourage people to practice a life of celibacy (aka monsignor-fast) to control population growth;
     4) practice lgbt lifestyle (aka anal_izing) and have zero population growth;
     5) perpetual implementation of the cct (aka eternal-beggar) program;
     6) train the poor acquire skills and livelihood (aka sow-n-reap) using rh + cct budget (>17B total);

    the rh bill is like its congressional sponsors, expensive but offer no solutions to nation’s woes.

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    RHBILL NOW. Even if it’s backed by CBCP.

    By the way, CBCP opposed the PCSO Lotto only to end up writing a love letter to GMA requesting for “A NEW CAR, BECAUSE MY OLD CAR IS KARAG KARAG NA AND IT MAKES LOTS OF INGAY INGAY WHEN ANDAR ANDAR, I WILL CONSIDER IT AS YOUR BIRTHDAY GIFT TO ME.”

    Freedom of religion? Read the preamble, whose god’s aid are “we, the sovereign Filipino people imploring”, ZEUS, ALAH, JEHOVA, RAH, JESUS?

    That constitution is 100% bias on religious issues.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS IS TALIBAN TERORIST IN THE PHILIPPINES LOOK THE STREET OF METRO MANILA A LOT OF STREET CHILDREN THE PEOPLE EAT FOOD IN THE GARBAGE ISNATCHERS IS EVERYWERE CBCP THIS IS CLEAR THATS BISHOPS IS TERORIST TALIBAN EVIL THE PAJERO KING THEY NOT PAY TAXES IVORY SMAGLERS” BISHOPS IS A SILENT TERORIST IN THE PHILIPPINES”’WHY THE GOVERMENT ALLOW THIS TERORIST OUR PEOPLE GOD SAVE THE PHILIPPINES TO THE TERORIST BIHOPS”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    a question to the catholic church(remnants of roman empire). why oppose the RH bill ? you don’t want the phil. to improve economically ?

    • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

      Mr.  Agustin, huwag idamay ang catholic church napaka christiano panaman ng pangalan mo, d naman simbahan ang gumawa ng batas paninindigan lang nila yon dahil yon ang tama para sa kanila

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Vote Now, what are you people afraid of?

    PH still under the Shackles of DAMASO.



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