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Half of Filipino Catholics shunning church weddings

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CBCP media director, Msgr. Pedro Quitorio. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

More than half of Filipino Catholics have not gotten married in churches, according to a survey conducted by Radio Veritas, a Catholic-run radio station and this could be because church weddings are deemed costly.

Sociology professor Bro. Clifford Sorita said that the radio station conducted a “truth survey” during the second quarter of the year which showed that the unions of majority of Filipino Catholic couples were not blessed in churches.

Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines’ (CBCP) media office director Msgr. Pedro Quitorio III described the results of the survey as “very alarming.”

“The Catholic Church would have to focus on this problem. This is a serious problem and we have to do something,” he said.

CBCP-Episcopal Commission on Doctrine of the Faith vice chair Emeritus Novaliches Bishop Teodoro Bacani for his part said that the survey results showed the need for an apostolate (mission of an apostle) to get Catholic couples to wed in the Church.

“For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,” Bacani said in a statement.

Some 2,500 respondents from the 85 archdioceses and dioceses covering all the 17 regions participated in the survey called “The Filipino Catholicity.”

The results showed that 50.2 percent of those surveyed had no answer (NA) when asked if they were married in churches, while 7.5 percent openly admitted that they were not married. Only 42.3 percent of the couples replied that they were married in a Catholic Church.

Sorita believes that the 50.2 percent of those who answered “NA” were not married but were reluctant to admit that they were living together out of wedlock.

“For Filipinos, if you are married why would you not say that you are married… They are embarrassed, they are not comfortable. They would rather hide in anonymity and not answer the question directly,” he said.

He also suspects that a portion of the 7.5 percent of those who admitted they were not married might have wed in civil rites or were living in together and thus might even add to the number of Filipino Catholic couples who were not wed in churches.

Sorita clarified that in the survey, civil marriage was not considered a marriage at all “because the precept is that you have to be married in a church.”

Asked why Filipinos appear disinterested about getting married, Sorita said it was because of the perception that getting married in churches was expensive.

Originally posted at 08:07 pm | Thursday, October 11, 2012


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  • jinx

    And if you ask Filipino couples if they had premarital sex before living together or before the Church wedding, I’ll bet 90 percent or more would say yes.  In fact, matagal ng trend ng mga mag-asawang buntis si misis bago magsama. So much for CBCP’s hypocrisy. You’re no longer relevant.

  • UrHONOR

    50%?  Mataas pa nga yan!  Napapag-alaman na kasi na wala namang ibig sabihin yang kasal-kasal sa simbahan na gawa-gawa lamang ng mga naka-sayang puti.  Sa ibang mga bayan na matuturing na advanced, wala pa sa 5% ang gumagaya sa practice na yan dahil nakikita nila over time na wala namang kahuluigan ang kasal sa simbahan sa mga buhay nila.  Ang tunay na kasal o pagsasama ay na sa nagsasama lamang….wala sa kasa-kasal na kagagawan o imbento lamang din ng lipunan. Nung unang panahon wala yang kasal-kasal na yan dahil mahirap pagkakitaan.  Marami ….napakarami ngayon ang tinatawag na live-in na matuturing na higit na tagumpay na pagsasama at samahan ng walang kasal-kasal sa simbahan.

    Nalalaman ng mga naka-sayang puti ang stats dahil nakikita nila kung gaano ang bagsak ng KITA nila sa kasal.  Primer klase ba?  Segunda, o ordinaryo?  Iba-iba ang bayad sa kasal sa simbahan.  Ang primer klase ba ay mas banal sa ibang klase?  Sinong magkakasal, ordinayong naka-sayang puti o yong may helmet?  Aba, depende sa abuloy o donasyon sa par…sa simbahan yon.  Mas malaki, mas mataas ang helmet at mas makulay na teknikolor ang costume na gagamitin o isu-suot.

    Magpakasal sa hues para may katibayan ang kasal.  That’s all there is to it for legality.  All else are pagpapakwela na lamang o, sabi nga, pagpapa-epal para may kodakan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Hmm.. perhaps Vatican is now complaining because of the less remittance?

    “Sorita clarified that in the survey, civil marriage was not considered a
    marriage at all “because the precept is that you have to be married in a
    church.”

    This is what we got from a church that is 200 years obsolete. In fact, civil marriage is more binding legally.

    “For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,” Bacani said in a statement.

    I don’t know where did the bishop got this idea. I guess there are lot of broken families where couples were previously married in churches. It is not a guarantee that a church wedding will result to better marital relationships, much less if your marriage counselors are the priests.

  • TON_SING_WAH

    Para sa kotoliko lang yan..yong mga ibang sekta..diyan lol.hahaha.di ka damay

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    kung kaya, bakit hindi pero sana huwag nang paghinayangan pa ng simbahan ang ibabayad sa church services at floral arrangement/catering ng mga magpapakasal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RZKGB5YRNPUNRJK6XOI4OZ3VQ Saith

    Catholic church is a huge money laundering bussiness….  Rome needs the money to pay the lawsuits filed against horny/faggot priest that preys on little boys! 

  • upupperclassman

    All the sacraments of Catholic Church cost money, quite a lot of money for poor people. Do you think the Catholic Church will perform the sacraments free of charge? No way!!! Most priests will stay way knowing that you are poor. So is Catholic church wedding more blessed? Obviously not!!!

  • mon key

    another evidence that the catholic church is so disconnected with the people they pretend to serve. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    dami kasi bayarin sa catholic church  kesa sa magpunta sa munisipyo na mas legal kesa papel sa simbahan

  • AgnosticLeader

    admittedly when it comes to their morality, the catholic church is a failure.

  • 010609

    Its just that for many catholics, with tight budget or earning just enough, they tend to choose to save their money for other things that are more urgent. Group weddings may cost less or its all free but … for me its like its different when its just the two of you

  • yonicares

    Simple solution, don’t charge your parishioners for the priest to officiate the mass. Let it be a celebration! Grace is freely by God. Why does the Catholic church monetize it?

  • tamumd

    Yet another glaring evidence that the catholic church is becoming irrelevant!

  • resortman

    Pag sa huwes, Legal..sa simbahan, Moral. Basta may legal na dokumento kami ok na, di naman kailangan ang papel sa simbahan para sa pag aabroad o pag aaply sa trabaho- yan ang tunay na pag iisip ng mga tao bukod sa magstos kahit na libre kasalan.(di ba dapat libre talaga?)..kailangan mo ng ninong,ninang,mga pare at mare..natural papakainin mo sila..pambayad na ng kuryente at tubig sa isang buwan…

  • Ralph L

    Why celebrate weddings?? People are celebrating more on separations now..

  • mm49

    How can they say that civil marriage was not considered a marriage at all? Everywhere in the world, marriages are officiated by judges, mayors, and other individuals who have received some sort of a marriage commissioner appointment. Religious entities, like Catholic priests, do not have the monopoly of officiating marriages. 

  • kulittwit

    Busy sa pamumulitika ang mga damaso. isantabi na ang responsibilidad nila na mapalapit ang tao sa simbahan. karamihan sa mga katoliko hindi na nagsisimba. wala namang bagong paraan na ginagawa ang mga damaso para mahikayat ang mga katoliko na mag attend ng misa tuwing linggo. inuuna ang pulitika.

  • txtman

    MAHAL NAMAN KASI TALAGA

    MALIBAN PA DYAN

    YUNG MADAMING REQUIREMENTS NILA

    CHURCH WEDDINGS SHOULD BE EASY & SIMPLE

    PROBLEMA KASI

    MAY MGA PARI NA WALANG CONCERN

    OUT OF TOUCH

    THE CHRUCH SHOULD HAVE FREE SIMPLE WEDDINGS EVERY WEEK

    MASKI FREE PERO SOLEMN & NOT IN A HURRIED WAY

    MADALAS KASI, PAG-WALANG PERA ANG MGA IKINAKASAL
        NAGMAMADALI ANG PARI

    ANG PARI KASI, NI HINDI NA NILA KINAKAUSAP MGA BAGONG KASAL
       NAGMAMADALING LUMALAYAS

    HINDI LANG YAN SA WEDDINGS

    MASKI SA BINYAG & LIBING

    NI HINDI NGA NAGPAPAHATID NAG PAKIKIRAMAY ANG MGA PARI

    IMAGINE MO HA

    YOU BELONG TO THAT CHURCH COMMUNITY PERO
        NI UY NI AY WALANG KANG MADIDINIG SA PARI

    KAYA HINDI NA NAKAPAGTATAKA

    KASI MADALAS PAKIRAMDAM NG MADAMING CATHOLICS
         EH, WALANG PAKIALAM ANG MGA PARI

    IT HURTS BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH

    NAKALIMOT NA KASI ANG MADAMING MGA PARI

    NA MGA TAO DIN MGA FLOCKS NILA

    AND PRIESTS ARE HUMAN

    ERGO

    PRIESTS MUST HAVE COMPASSION &BE SENSITIVE TO THEIR FLOCKS

  • batmanlaijai

    haaayyyy…. kung maibalik lng ang nakaraan… kahit libre pa ayaw ko magpabinyag at magpakasal sa catholic priest…. wala kwenta!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Maybe Filipino Catholics are wondering why would God need money for their wedding matrimony.

  • ako_to

    Civil marriage not considered married? Plain stupidity. This is another clear example of ” kung may pera ka, sa langit ang punta mo, kung wala kang pera, sa impyerno ang bagsak”

  • John_Galt_II

    The real reason is that they are no longer interested in your church!

  • farmerpo

    Bisnis is not so gud. Can get merid where it is not so expensib. Mag promo kaya ang Catholic Church? Libre binyag sa panganay? O libre misa pag patay.. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      pwede ba unli?

      • Steven Zahl

        UNLI Children, yan ang gusto ni DAMASO, hahahaha!

  • Camilo_Cienfuegos

    it said: Asked why Filipinos appear disinterested about getting married, Sorita said it was because of the perception that getting married in churches was expensive.

    ….tumpak ito!!!!! 

    • hustlergalore

      tumpak! may bayad talaga ang seven sacraments.

      LOL

  • Muhamad chan

    Why not? Because Filipino church has a thirld world mentality. Meaning: corrupt

  • JK1000

    Kasi gaya gaya,puto maya ang ibang mga filipino. Kahit bawal basta nakita sa t.v. akala nila okay na. Pero ugaling bulok katulad ng walang disiplina ay hindi maalis sa sarili.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZYJLDPFZXW3GZVHSY5TOQZX6D4 SojuSaki

    “Result of the survey is very alarming”…indeed, you have all the reasons to be alarmed when your revenues are declining.  You guys and ladies have a lot of explaining to do to your stockholders in Vatican on your below target remittance this fiscal year. 

    Given your parasitic business policy, I wouldn’t expect you to unload your blue chip corporate holdings to plug your deficit but instead you will opt to raise your  various school fees or solicit endowment funds from reprobate politicians since it’s election season again. You did it before definitely you will do it again.

    • emomarcelo

      They could sell indulgence again. They could align themselves with fascists and get land grants. They could give annulments to wealthy catholics and get hefty payments. The italian catholic church is a 2,000 year old business concern. It has subsidiaries in all continents except Antarctica. In the Philippines, it owns large shares in San Miguel, Bank of th philippine Islands, Philex. Long after Meralco, ABS-CBN are gone, the church will still be a profitable concern.
      It also conditions it customers-look at UST, brainwashed and lobotomized.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

    Ang dami dami kasing gastos, bayad sa simbahan, bayad sa church, bayad sa pari, bayad sa priest, bayad sa ganito at ganyan, sa reception dapat imbitado buong nayon o baryo kung hindi, lagot ka, magsisipuntahan pa rin sila.

    • RiverHorse

       bayad sa simbahan, bayad sa church… bayad sa pari, bayad sa priest… talagang maraming gastos nga… doble, doble. hehehehe.

    • angtangamo

       LOL

    • Herbert Carolino

      sa basbas sa patay may bayad din ba?…..lol!

  • dickenhead

    how about the dwindling numbers of filipino catholics attending sunday masses what do you think is the reason behind that monsignor?

  • John Phil

    I’m not an RCC and I chose not to have my wedding at a church not because of cost, for i am sure i spent more, but because i did not wish to have it at a church but instead wanted a garden wedding…the only thing i disliked was the lawyer who was overcharging me and thankfully my landlord was able to get it much cheaper than what i was being asked for. I could of easily ignored the matter and refused to get what I was requestion but it is best to have it just in case but i dislike how lawyers takes advantage as if they think they have the right to pick the highest price when legally there are much lower prices out there.

  • Ommm

    It’s not the money as a judge doing a civil ceremony charges P4000.

    They should have asked if the respondents attend mass every Sunday, to get the real truth. Nobody i know goes to mass anymore although the few very religious watch it on TV as they do the ironing or cook breakfast…..

    The religious rhetoric the church still spews is most effective on ignorant savages hunting naked in the jungle….but in this day and age we have malls and education.   

  • Danny Bravo

    negosyo  ang  roman  catholics  ay  hindi  kabilang  sa  kristiyanismo,,,,  dahil  ito  ay  may  maria,,,  mariana  ang  tawag  dito  ,,,dito  sa  italy  bihirang  italyano  ang  kumikilala  dito    ,,,katulad  din  dito  negosyante

  • kismaytami

    I remember one time during my childhood the parochial RC church in our barangay raffled off a car with tickets worth P100 a piece, the priests at every mass would said the raffle is for church improvements. They even displayed the blue-green car near the altar for parishoners to see and be awed. But after the raffle bonanza, it was not the church that had improvements but the catholic high school run by the same parochial church. That’s the very first time, as a kid I thought, “this church is a big lie”. This religion is not about preaching their god’s words, it’s about business, and loads and loads of money.

  • blainz

    “Asked why Filipinos appear disinterested about getting married, Sorita said it was because of the perception that getting married in churches was expensive.”

    Among lower class pinoys, this isn’t just perception, it’s the truth.

    For some, there is also the additional time and expense of confirmation [kumpil], a prerequisite sacrament to marriage. Outside of bishops during fiestas, only the Church of San Miguel near Malacañang can provide confirmations; a near monopoly in business, and a real hassle for provincianos.

    The quality of a marriage is in the love, respect, and character of those wedded, not in the location or professed creed of the wedding. If higher class pinoys kept this in mind, we would see a reduction in yet another income stream for the church – annulments.

  • Herbert Carolino

    bakit kasi hindi magdaos ng mass wedding ang church once a year man lang….para nman yong mga mahihirap makasal hindi leave in leave in lang…..para anytime puede sila mgplano ng kasal…hindi ung mg iipon muna ng pera ang rason hanggang wala na ding mangyari sa plano nila..buti pa ang gobyerno na mga loc. gov’t may libre…naturingang simbahan may bayad…dapat nga walang fixed price…donation lang lahat…

    • bozzone

       maganda IDEA yan.. pero WALA na libre ngayon (‘o’)

  • mhertz

    mass wedding sa Church, wlang bayad..di naman kailangan gagastos..ang importante ang blessings..

  • Ronald Diaz

    Buti naman at may nakapansin na karamihan sa mga katoliko ay hindi na nagpapakasal sa simbahan. Ang rason diyan ay;

    1. Ginawang negosyo ng mga pari at obispo ang serbisyo nila. Halimbawa ang pagpapakasal, magpabinyag,magpamisa sa patay at kung anu-ano pa.
    2. Karamihan sa mga pari at obispo ay lulong na sa sugal.
    3. Tumatanggap ng pabuya or regalo na galing sa masamang tao or sa pulitiko.
    4. Mga pari ngayon at obispo ay sangkot sa anomalya.
    5. Mga pari at obispo sangkot sa iskandalo. Katulad ng panggagahasa, sexual harassment.
    6. Wala nang moral.
    7. Manggagamit
    8. Kurakot na rin.

    Ang masama pa nito ay magaling silang manggamit sa pangalan ni Hesus para sa kanilang pansariling interes.

    Ako’y isang katoliko simula’t sapul. Mga magulang ko ay relihiyosa. Pero sa nakikita ko ngayon sa simbahan — madidismaya ka at nakakawalang ganang pumasok dahil ang nakikita mo sa loob ay isang taong makasalanan.

     

    • ApoLapullapu

       At si GMA pa ngayon ang pinalabas na pinakakurakot sa buong bansa.  Kung ang bayad sa kasal sa simbahaan ay libre tulad ng kasal ni Mayor, siguro marami pa ring magpapakasal sa simbahan.

  • agaylaya

    Ibig sabihin nito nawawalan ng influence ang simbahan sa buhay ng kanyang mga miyembro.

  • andrew lim

    “Asked why Filipinos appear disinterested about getting married, Sorita said it was because of the perception that getting married in churches was expensive. ”

    Tell me how much these churches charge for a wedding done in their premises:

    1. Christ the King Greenmeadows
    2.  Santuario de San Antonio- Forbes
    3. San Agustin Intramuros

  • GKLer

    Isn’t it obvious?  You have neglected to tend to your flock!

  • akimaxx

    Sa aming bayan, mas marami ang nagpapakasal kay Mayor kaysa sa simbahan. Eto ang mga dahilan:
    1) Higit na maliit ang gastos. Hindi na kailangan ng invitation cards , di na kailangan ng magagarang damit, di na kailangan ng magarbong palamuti sa simbahan at magagandang bulaklak. Malapit na kaibigan at kamag-anak lang ang kasama sa kainan. Wala ng souvenirs na ipamimigay.

    2) Dahil sa munisipyo naganap ang kasal, ang legal na papeles ay agad nakarehistro hanggang dalhin sa NSO. 

    3) Ang natipid na gastos ay maaaring ilaan sa kinabukasan, halimbawa puhunan sa negosyo, atbp
    .
    4) Maganda ang mga pangaral ni Mayor sa bagong kasal. Praktikal at may kabuluhan sa panahon ngayon; maging mabuting mamamayan. Dahil ang bagong kasal ay mga bagong membro ng komunidad, malaki ang kanilang responsibilidad sa bayan.

    5) Ang magandang samahan ng mag-asawang kasal ay kinikilala ng Diyos kung wagas ang kanilang pagmamahalan. ‘Until death do us part’ pa rin ang prinsipyo.

    Kung ang Pilipino ang tatanungin ngayon, kanino ka pakakasal. sa PARI o kay MAYOR? Kung ikaw ay praktikal, ang sagot: KAY MAYOR DAHIL KINIKILALA ANG KASAL NG BAYAN AT NG DIYOS..

    • bozzone

       @akimaxx:disqus  – Salamat sa info.. ano city po ba kayo?

  • Immortal

    I myself really wanted to have a church wedding however it is really very costly in our part. I’ve been married for 5 years, civil marriage
    .

    • UrHONOR

      NOT ONLY, but above all and most specially by the judge who has been ordained by the state to perform such duty.  Yan ang mahalaga dahil yan ay legal na pagbabatayan ng maraming bagay na actual sa buhay sa mundo….hindi yong pie-in-the-sky na may hokus-pokus at abracadabra pang mga binabanggit na wala namang katuturan kundi ang pagkakitaan.  The judge can guareantee your wedding to be legal, elsewhere, hindi legal. In fact, kailangan pa din kumuha ng marriage license kung sa iba magpapaksal.  Sa US, kahit na sinong gustong mag-kasal ay maaari….basta’t kumuha lamang ng license to perform marriages, ok na.  Hindi na kailangan pa yang mga ka-etchosan ng simbahan na may kampanang kakalembang kapag primer klase…at may choir pang kakanta.  Kung ordinaryo lang, yong bulag sa kanto ng simabahan na may silindro ang tutugtug sa kasal.

  • Simon Ward

    In almost any survey, application form, etc. I fill out, if it asks whether I’m married (usually the euphemism “Status”), I put NA for Not Applicable (not No Answer). My marital status, which is by no means unusual, is personal and not something I share with strangers for no good reason.

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    oo nga naman.  why listen to a sermon about marriage from somebody who has never experienced it?

    plastik kasi!

    • bozzone

      kunin mo pari na may chicks at anak. yon magaling yan mag-sermon (‘o’) ahehehe

      • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

        di pa rin married.  ang ituturo sa yo nun ay paano wag mahuli.

        ay, mukhang ok yun a.  hahahaha!

  • UrHONOR

    >>>“For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,” Bacani said in a statement.<<<

    KUNG ang batayan ng pagka-christian ay ang buhay at lifestyle na pinapakita ng mga naka-sayang puti't helmet, makakabuti na huwag na lang maging christian!  sa kabu-uan ang pagiging christian ay ang pagiging plastik…..iba ang ginagawa ng kaliwang kamay sa kanan.

    Tulad lang ni Ted Bacani na naging bishop ng RCCh na ngayon ay naka-angkla na sa el shaddy bilang adviser….anong halimbawa yang pinakikita nya?  RCCh na bishop, tapos anchor man sa isang break-away catholic group na pinamumunuan ng isang negosyante na noon ay nangungutang lamang sa RE biz nya sa amin na bumaliktad kaya ang sinunod na negosyo ay religion?  Alam kong alam ni Ted ang simulain ng elshaddy pero kumakapit pa din siya doon.  Bakit?  Kasi doble-kabig, doble-salok.  Wala ng moral ascendancy yang mga naka-sayang puti na yan  dahil ilang laksang libong ulit na na napatunayan na ang tanging pakay ng grupo nila ay moolah at authority.  Sila mismo, hindi na nagpapaniwala sa mga kwento na nagpasalin-salin noon mula pa sa panahon nila Abraham.

  • marionics

    baka naman hindi na sila catholics hahaha
    o kaya mga cafeteria lang hahaha

  • Branch_Warren

    For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,” Bacani said in a statement

    NOT TRUE. This is just the rite. but living a “christian” (married) life need not have a prerequisite.

  • Ronald_18

    “For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,” Bacani said in a statement.- Sira ulo! Bakit ako maniniwala sa iyo? Kung ikaw nga Bishop Bacani, naanakan mo yung helper niyo diyan sa may church sa Paco Catholic School. Tama ba yang ginagawa mo? Inaanakan mo ang isang babae na labag sa patakaran niyo?
    Kayong mga sira ulong Pari ang dahilan kung bakit nawawala ang mga miyembro niyo. Masyado kayong pakielamero lalong lalo na sa pulitika. Sa palagay ko mali pa yan survey niyo, dapat ang alamin niyo kung ilang catholics na ang tumiwalag sa kanilang mga religion.

    • bozzone

       easy lang…

  • bol pen

    Isn’t it too late for the prelate to realize that they have lost their influence to the catholics? These can be seen by how do they practice what they preach in the pulpit. They do not focus on what is the gospel, the most important part of the mass. During the homily, instead of expressing and magnifying the love of God, they tend to criticize and ridicule the people around them. The same is given to them. They are also ridiculed to the lowest level due to lack of moral ascendancy.

    Should the prelates focus on holy living, the country should not have turned to be like this. The Bible has never been mistaken how did it abhor the practices of the Sadduccees and the Pharisees.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Actually what is expensive in church wedding are the dresses,reception and now the wedding planner, the church’s service is not that high,there are many factors to this not only the expenses that comes with it, some of these are the influence we can get via media, some celebrities who are in this kind of arrangement are glorified  in media so, some people will think it is right  and there are more factors, not just the church. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    This is one of the reasons why our values now are very different form that of before. families are not anymore blessed by the grace of God through wedding. We are the only Catholic country here in the southeast, we should have been the Light here, but look at where we are going with our values, gone are the respect especially for elders and those in authority,the kindness, the compassion, the consideration for others and the work for the common good.We have grown to be self – centered and greedy.Sana this study would not end here, sana the concerned group will act.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    This should be a united effort of all Catholics, priests, nuns, lay and the schools sana wala ng mag ooppose, baka naman ang Ateneo at La salle   oppose na naman dito, again you cannot be a “man for others” if you are with your source, Christ.

  • Nimrod Suaez

    Church weddings have become very costly……. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    You can get married in church for free. It’s the dresses and the things not related to the church that are expensive.

    • sweetandon

       Churches are now charging too high for weddings, there’s special and ordinary wedding.

    • mfdo

       yah, you can get married for free .. but try to get some ‘engagement’ from the church, when you don’t pay .. good luck .. forget about even starting a family life with that kind of sour note ..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    Let’s be honest. Just because we don’t agree with the church teachings doesn’t mean the church is always wrong. If the standard of the teachings is too difficult for you, it doesn’t mean we will lower the standard. There has to be a standard or else we just make our own standards whatever pleases us.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

      The problem is not the standard – are these teachings right or wrong? Example: Wanna worship Pedro made of Elephant Ivory or Narra Tree, right or wrong?

      • iahn13

        who said something about worshiping Pedro made of Elephant Ivory of Narra Tree? do they teach that now? really?

    • psychosomatic

      Just because we don’t agree with the church teachings doesn’t mean the church is always wrong.

      — I would like to agree with you…..but, once upon a time the Church adamantly taught the faithful that the Earth was the center of the Universe, and the one who challenged that was called a heretic.  

      There has to be a standard or else we just make our own standards whatever pleases us. 

      — Yes, but some standards have to adapt to the present circumstances.  Once upon a time, women were considered inferior to men, or that black people should be treated as slaves.  But these standards were eventually changed.  Unfortunately for the Catholic Church, they have a poor track record for adapting to change, that more often than not, the Catholic Church is portrayed as an anachronism.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    It’s our fault that we choose expensive hotels, restaurants, dresses, wedding planners, not the church’s.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      Perhaps if one can afford hotels, restaurants, planners, one can also afford the church fees.

      Then that also means that one, is not part of that 50% who says church weddings are expensive.

      The average filipino can not afford too much.

  • LeoLydiaTan

    “Asked why Filipinos appear disinterested about getting married, Sorita
    said it was because of the perception that getting married in churches
    was expensive.”

    “Expensive” is just ONE of the many reasons–the self-righteous mandates and “Discovery Weekend” requirement set by the Catholic Church are reasons worth looking into. There are other things about the Catholic Church that turn off would-be-married couples, not just the cost involved. 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OMRHT23YF4S7LUHMROE4HM4XYQ Boy

    It is as simple as priests telling what the married couple should do, what family values to live by when in fact, they don’t have first hand experience of getting married and having a family. Aside from the fact that they require too much prior to getting married. So we opted for a Christian pastor to marry us.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVS4MKYAHNFS6TCFBFGRZNIIGQ Nueva

    ewan ko ba sa catholic nakakadismaya kasi naman pag at fault alisin nyo pag may bulok sa inyo alisin nyo tama na ang pakikialam sa politics pwede basta tama dont ask for pajero my golly eh ano kung ur getting less in numbers atleast u can prove to the world that you are a true christian in that way i hope mas maraming tao ang babalik basta tama ang ginagawa

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EIB5TLBLZQXO4O3SHQH75PC3BE jaypee

    Pera-pera na kasi ang usapan sa Simbahang Katoliko.. Pati mga Pari mukhang-pera na rin.. I have lost all faith in the Roman Catholic Church.. Sorry..

    • http://twitter.com/RBlairCarabuena R Blair Carabuena

      Same here. Lost faith in the Catholic Church ever since it’s been interfering with politics.

    • Paolo Damasco

      kung hindi ka na nagtitiwala sa simbahang katoliko dahil sa mga nababasa o naririnig mo, ibig lang sabihin nun ay matagal ka ng hindi pumapasok sa simbahan para makinig sa mga pari na nasa pulpito. tama ba ko?

    • Romeo Escuyos

      Ang babaw naman. You left the Church because of a Priest? My goodness! There are a lot of faithful Priests and there are parishes that only ask for a donation that the couple could afford. Next time look at the institution and not the person. Remember, Christ is the Founder of the Catholic Church and you have slapped His face many times over because of your poor judgment.

  • Hodor Hodor

    Sadly, the perception is not without basis. Example: It appears that the church implemented a rule that every member should celebrate the wedding within their respective parish. Thus, If members want to get married in another parish they have to pay for around 1,500 (some parishes would only ask for donation). If the couple belong to different parishes, they have to pay P3000. And this is only the beginning….
    Fee of the officiating priest: P1500Rent for the church: P4500 – 20000Choir: 4000(I am being conservative here)When I complained about the fees, the church people said that we are spending a lot for the invitation, reception and other non-essentials but why are we complaining when giving money to the church… the church needs money to attend to her flock…Something to think about…  

    • bozzone

       ang mahal pala magpakasal ngayon.. hahayzzzz..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

      i dont believe you that they said that thing…may Mass wedding naman sa simbahan libre every year. kaya lumalaki gastos sa pagpapakasal sa simbahan at nagiging komersyo na ay dahil narin sa mga nagpapakasal na gusto ay engrande para sa kanilang mga bisita. Wag nyo sisihin ang pari o ang simbahang Katoliko, pwede naman ikasal ng libre inaanunsyo naman kung kailan. Kaso ang mga ikakasal gusto sa kathedral, gusto pa bishop magkakasal. gusto pa maglagay ng maraming bulaklak. gusto magagaling na choirs ang kakanta. May wedding planner pa sa paglalakad. magmamahal nga gastos nyan. napakasimple lang naman ng pagpapakasal sa simbahan. kailangan katoliko kayo,  alam nyo ang mga sakramento, may ninang at ninong kahit isang pares, andun ang mga magulang ng ikakasal then syempre yung ikakasal. di naman kailangan na nakaputi ang damit ng babae. di rin kailangan ng mga abay. di na kailangan may kakanta pa at lalakad sa altar. kahit walang bulaklak pwede. kahit nga walang ilaw at mike pwede kayong ikasal ng pari. Kaso karamihan maaarte gusto maganda kuha sa video. kahit sinong pari magkakasal sa gustong pakasal kahit walang mga ka ek-ekan basta naiintindihan nya ang mga sakramento kung hindi seminar muna sila.   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WJX5I5FJL52QCZDUKDNWOTIZHQ Lateralus

     e ang taas nyo maningil e, hehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPDAZIXLRDOGCON42ETFG4AG3A TonTon

    correct! sacraments and church services are highly commercialized nowadays. its no longer free.
    MOST priests forgot that priesthood is a VOCATION and NOT a PROFESSION.  they turned the church into an industry that is purely concerned on business and profit earning.

    well in fairness, not all of course, there are still priests that follow their vocation. they don’t charge nor ask for any fee, they just wait for donations. some may charge like 50, 100, 150  pesos for a service some may just give the services for free. they’re not just ordinary priests, they are well educated, but they don’t consider their good education as a basis for asking or charging high rates for their services, – they simply know what priesthood is all about, – a vocation, a servant of all servants.

    i know some of them, and i have witnessed their way of living – a simple life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    Marriage requirements in the churh are too difficult to comply. It is very disadvantageous to those who are overseas and have little time to comply with requirements. Church’s position is like “take it or leave it” instead of “let us help you.” Fees have increased too. These all virtually drive away the less fortunate to civil weddings or just mere live-in arrangements.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NEGOSYO YAN SA MGA SOSYAL TINGNAN MO LABAS NG SIMBAHAN NILA SA BAKLARAN PUNO NG PULUBI AT STREET CHILDREN DAPAT PALAMUNIN NILA LAHAT NG STREET CHILDREN SA LABAS NG SIMBAHAN DAHIL YUN GUS2 NILA REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

      nakikita mo palang maraming pulubi sa labas bakit di mo pakainin. for your info. marami na at gawain ng simbahang katoliko na mag pa feeding sa mga less fortunate. hindi mo lang nakikita dahil di naman dapat ipangalandakan ng simbahan. sa milyones na pulubi sa buong pilipinas mahirap na lahat yun ay iasa sa mga katoliko o simbahan. bakit di ka mag alaga ng isang pulubi sa lansangan pakainin mo at damitan mo bago mo tirahan ang  simbahang katoliko 

      • mnlmad

         Pag may mga batang namamalimos tinatanong ko sila kung ilang silang magkakapatid. Ang sagot walo o siyam sila. Gusto ng simbahan magdagdag pa sila?Sira ulo talaga. Yung mga bata dapat sa mga pari lumapit.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NAKAKA DISMAYA ITONG MGA BISHOPS NA ITO TUMINGIN NGA KAYO SA PALIGID NINYO KUNG ANONG NANG YAYARI PAG MASDAN NINYO LABAS NG SIMBAHAN NINYO PUNO NG PULUBI AT BATANG PALABOY SNATCHER KASUKLAM SUKLAM TALAGA ITONG MGA BISHOP NA ITO GUS2 NILA REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES

  • AlexanderAmproz

    In some developed countries, more than half of the birth are outside wedding.
    This is a good sign for the country, 
    it show people want to bee free from a Middle-Age obscurantism…

  • sweetandon

    It only shows that catholic church leaders are in remiss of their duties in the church. There’s separation of church and the state, church wedding is purely church activity. Our church leaders easily react on state issues while in fact on their own backyard a lot of things has to be done. Kaya bawasan nyo muna maki alam sa gobyerno kasi sariling trabaho at obligasyon ninyo sa simbahan ay di nyo na na gampanan. 

  • virgoyap

    I’m just interested to know how many Catholics left the Church because of the Bishops’ anti-RH stand? It’s interesting if a survey is to be made on this issue.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

      walang umalis.. mas naliwanagan pa nga na tama ang catholic church about abortion.

      • mnlmad

         Naliwanagan sa maling stand ng church. Is that what you mean? What abortion are you talking about?

      • virgoyap

        How do you know? That’s why I ask for a survey. Abortion has nothing to do with it.

    • boldyak

      bakit kailangan mong malaman?…para kung may umalis, lalaitin na naman?…ang tanong mo pa lang nanlalait na…pweee….leave us Catholics alone…anong paki mo sa amin…bwesit ka!!

      • virgoyap

        Bakit hindi? Am I not free what to say? For me a person who doesn’t want to know is a moron.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U7W5RCEW4U5SWHULU2TDCO2SZ4 emelinda

    Mahal kasi ang bayad sa simbahan.  Nung kinasal ang pinsan ko sa San Agustin Church 30K, yung isang pinsan ko na kinasal sa St. Joseph sa Tondo nasa 10K ang bayad sa simbahan pa lang.  Noong ako naman ang kinasal sa INC nagulat ang mga tita ko na na wala palang bayad ang kasal namin e malaking INC church pa ang wedding venue ko   Sabi ko wala naman talagang bayad ang kasal sa INC.  Marriage license at cenomar lang ang magagastos mo choice na lang ng magboyfriend kung gagastos pa sila sa bulaklak at bonggang wedding reception. ang mahalaga may basbas ang pagsassama

  • mfdo

    And add to what hodor hodor says .. the church has made marriage so complicated, in complicity with the State, it is next to difficult to marry .. and did anybody wonder why so many couples prefer to live together than to marry and burn up all their life savings ??

    and on top of it, when a filipino marries a foreigner, it is next to impossible with so much red tape, including lessons on how to live with foreigners – I am not kidding – taught by people who have bigoted view of foreigners, and not just go on to poison the mind of my fellow citizens but also sow the path to destruction, when they marry a foreigner ..

    Ask me, I have enough friends who nearly went to hell and came back, when they married foreigners .. so much so, they preach the benefit of not marrying legally .. or marry outside the country ..

  • http://twitter.com/papalphacharlie J Pacapac

    Yes, form an apostolate, because that addresses that problem of Church weddings being costly.

  • Platypus09

    This is so unfair.

    How about other religions and Christian denominations?

    I am sure it is WORSE than this.

    Let those stats come out.

    Wait a minute. Why do you guys pick on Catholics?

    Why can’t you talk about other religions, their crimes, their statistics, their leaders’ marital infidelity, mistresses, etc.?

    Am sure that these people in the news are some of them come from different religions.

    Talking about religions or making mockery of religions, and see where this trend is going, if you guys are courageous enough. Let them be in the open.

    How about saying: “A Christian guy caught stealing a store in Pasig”

    Or, “A Filipino Methodist caught raping a girl in Lucena”?

    The point I am saying, like these reporters and anti-Catholics always use Catholicism or Catholics in their stories or news articles, for what unclear reason. Sounds like they are always the targets of public ridicule. Sounds biased.

    How about bringing the names of other religions or Christian denominations when putting these criminals in headlines, and see what people say?

    Just to be fair to Catholics.

    Talking about fairness and justice.

    It is time for others to be treated the same way and let them feel what is it like to be ridiculed or belittled in public.

    • Gremil Alessandro Naz

      no one is picking on catholics. radio veritas mismo ang gumawa ng survey at sila rin ang naglabas ng datos. nobody is being ridiculed here, unless radio veritas is subjecting the church to ridicule.

      • Platypus09

        I am also talking about tons of articles posted in here PDI before about Filipino Catholics being ridiculed and belittled.

        You must be new here.

        But read below, you know what I am talking about.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

    May Mass wedding naman sa simbahan libre every year. kaya lumalaki gastos sa pagpapakasal sa simbahan at nagiging komersyo na ay dahil narin sa mga nagpapakasal na gusto ay engrande para sa kanilang mga bisita. Wag nyo sisihin ang pari o ang simbahang Katoliko, pwede naman ikasal ng libre inaanunsyo naman kung kailan. Kaso ang mga ikakasal gusto sa kathedral, gusto pa bishop magkakasal. gusto pa maglagay ng maraming bulaklak. gusto magagaling na choirs ang kakanta. May wedding planner pa sa paglalakad. magmamahal nga gastos nyan. napakasimple lang naman ng pagpapakasal sa simbahan. kailangan katoliko kayo,  alam nyo ang mga sakramento, may ninang at ninong kahit isang pares, andun ang mga magulang ng ikakasal then syempre yung ikakasal. di naman kailangan na nakaputi ang damit ng babae. di rin kailangan ng mga abay. di na kailangan may kakanta pa at lalakad sa altar. kahit walang bulaklak pwede. kahit nga walang ilaw at mike pwede kayong ikasal ng pari. Kaso karamihan maaarte gusto maganda kuha sa video. kahit sinong pari magkakasal sa gustong pakasal kahit walang mga ka ek-ekan basta naiintindihan nya ang mga sakramento kung hindi seminar muna sila.   

  • Platypus09

    My parents got married in the rectory of the church with the priest, I just learned.

    Their only expense was to get the marriage license, and boom. That was it.

    It does not have to be elaborate if you cannot afford.

    It is the blessing from God through the sacrament of marriage that is very important.

  • Mali_Galig

    I rather spend it in TOGO than in the Church.

  • Ncarreonjr

    Getting too expensive for them?

  • ashleybulls

    SABI NG ISANG NAKALAYA NA AT NAGPAPAYO – “BOY, INGAT KA SA PAGPAPAKASAL, LIFE IMPRISONMENT YAN PAG NAGKAMALI KA. KILALALANIN MO MUNA MAPAPANGASWA MO, KASI PAG HUMINGI KA NG PAYO SA PARI EHH WALANG DIVORSE-DIVORSE. PERANG MALAKI NAMAN YAN PAG NAGKAMALI KA AT NAGPAKASAL KASI SAN DAMUKAL NA PONDO KAILANGAN MO SA ANNULLMENT. BUTI KUNG SI SHARON AT KRIS KA NA MADATONG. LAGAY MO SA KOKOTE MO YAN”…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y52VTHDO32X54EVLDZP7Z44NC4 Elliot

    “For the foundation of the Christian family is Christian marriage. You cannot form Christian families without Christian marriage,”
     
    -Catholicism is not Christianism…

    • Filpino

      if Catholics are not Christians what are they? Them as Catholics believe that Jesus is God. They believe in One True God with three persona. God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit. That God became Flesh/Man to redeem us. That God Jesus was born by Mary. Catholics teaches that redemption is from the Grace of God. They believe that Faith in Jesus and doing what are pleasing to Him are necessary. Early catholics died as martyrs to the Faith in Jesus. The term catholics in greeks means UNIVERSAL, that was the commandment of Jesus Christ to His disciples before He was raise to heaven, to propagate the Good News of Faith in Jesus to all mankind and make the Faith universal to all.

      • Hurtlocker1

        I will answer this.
        Christian belief is based on the Gospel (good news) of The Lord Jesus Christ. No more no less. That makes you a Christian believer.
        If other gospel(s) is(are) added to the Gospel as proclaimed by the Apostles of Jesus Christ, that “faith” is a
        Btw, an apostle, as the Bible says, was the one whom had seen the face and chosen by the Lord.
        As the Bible says, redemption or to gain access to heaven, is from the grace of God by FAITH alone (not through good doings/works) with God through His Son Jesus Christ.. 

      • iahn13

        so what are Catholics then? you didn’t answer his question, you simply mentioned that salvation is by FAITH alone and not through good works (Eph.2:8-9). From what I understand, Filipino is also striking the same message. so what’s the difference then?

        and..the article said, “the foundation of Christian family is Christian Marriage”. it never mentioned that the foundation is Catholic Wedding as you’ve agreed with sir Elliot. and I do believe that Catholicism is not Christianism. but the article never mentioned any of those.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

        better for you to read Hebrew in NT. It tells about faith manifested in works. It told the story of Abraham how he showed his FAITH in GOD by doing it in work… abraham was ready to kill his son isaac because that was the commandment given by GOD to him. He had FAiTH in GOd that his son will be raised again after he kill him. HOw could abraham show his faith in GOD if he will not heed HIs command to kill his son. As saint paul said that faith can move mountain but LOVE (you need work to show your love) is greatest than FAITH. GOD LOVE US that’s why He died on the CROSS (which work). EVEN DEVilS have FAITH that JESUS is the Son of GOD (at nanginginig pa sabi ni Jesus) but they dont HAVE LOVE to show it.

        By the way.. JESUS is the GOOD News that the early apostles and christians had been proclaiming not the new testament bible or Gospel that was not in existence during the apostles time.   

    • Hurtlocker1

      Totoo!!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    The Filipino Imported colonial Christianization is very different of the one practiced in Europe,
    in fact it’s a different religion adopted on different power purpose.
    Any way every religion in the human History has a life span, after 2000 years, the Christian one is almost over in Europe. In the Philippines it’s only 400 years old, the Clergy is to fishy and abusive to make it last longer.
    what next ?

  • Steven Zahl

    Filipinos are Sick and Tired of the church always asking for money.

  • $14334231

    anong kwenta ng church marriage.,…pag nag apply ka pa abroad, ang birth certificate ay kailangan ‘yong sa civil hindi sa simbahan…..ang civil marriage mas matigas kesa kasal sa simbahan dahil ‘di rin tinatanggap ito sa pag aapply pa abroad….ngayon, ang tanong, alin ang mabisa, cetificate ng simbahan o civil certificate…..kaya kumakanta ang simbahan dahil nabawasan ang ang kita ng mga ito…..o di malapit na rin kayong magdildidil ng asin…hehehe….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B3IKV7JMMDUH3D7HBXEBD5QONI Erwin

    Simony. Alamin niyo kung ano yung ibig sabihin ng SIMONY.

  • Joven Ramirez (新朝偉)

    I don’t think it’s because of the Catholic Church asking for money. Weddings really are expensive events, because after the wedding itself, there’s a reception lunch (or dinner). That’s what people cannot afford. Please stop blaming the Catholic Church for “stealing” money through this channel because blaming them for all the country’s ills as a fad is getting really sick and old. It steals money in other ways, but not this one. #factcheck 



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