Gov’t allays fears of Bangsamoro becoming an Islamic state

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PEACE AT LAST? Heavily armed Moro rebels gather in their camp in a village in Mamasapano, Maguindanao province. The government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) have announced a framework agreement aimed at settling the 40-year guerrilla war in Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago. JEOFFREY MAITEM/INQUIRER MINDANAO

The chief government negotiator on Tuesday sought to ease fears that the creation of a new autonomous Muslim homeland in Mindanao could lead to the rise of an Islamic state within the Philippines.

Marvic Leonen, head of the government panel negotiating peace with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), said at a briefing for Philippine Daily Inquirer editors and reporters that the creation of Bangsamoro would respect the “separation of Church and State.”

President Benigno Aquino on Sunday announced a preliminary agreement between the government and the MILF to end a decades-long Muslim insurgency in Mindanao with the establishment of Bangsamoro, which would replace the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).

The establishment of Bangsamoro would also mean  recognition of the Moro identity, said the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Teresita Quintos-Deles.

Following the announcement of the preliminary agreement on Sunday, she said, a group of Bangsamoro proposed a campaign called “Bangsamoro Ako, Filipino.”

“It is a way to promote the Moro identity as part of the Filipino,” Deles said, adding that she had told the group to proceed with the campaign.

 

Bangsamoro identity

The framework agreement will be signed in Malacañang on Oct. 15. Once the agreement is signed, Leonen said, the Moros begin to win recognition of their identity as Bangsamoro.

Under the agreement, considered Bangsamoro are “those who at the time of conquest and colonization were considered natives or original inhabitants of Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago and its adjacent islands, including Palawan, and their descendants, whether of mixed or of full blood.”

“To the Philippine government, these are symbolisms, befitting their history. The history of their forebears,” Leonen said.

The announcement did not sit well with Nur Misuari, leader of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) that signed a peace agreement with the government in 1996.

Misuari, the first governor of ARMM, said the government’s deal with the MILF was illegal, as there was already the 1996 accord.

He said the MNLF could sue the government in the International Court of Justice. And he issued a veiled threat against the government, saying the MNLF was “still alive and kicking.”

At a briefing for the Inquirer, Deles said the MNLF would not be left out in the establishment of Bangsamoro.

The government and the MILF will give the MNLF seats in the Transition Commission on the creation of the new autonomous region, Deles said.

The MILF, Deles added, is willing to work with the MNLF in bringing peace to war-torn Mindanao.

 

SC still supreme

The Transition Commission will draft the basic law that would create Bangsamoro. The commission will submit the draft of the basic law to Congress for legislation.

Leonen said that while Sharia, or Islamic law, would cover Muslims in Bangsamoro, any law or regulation to be adopted by the region would respect the basic rights and civil liberties guaranteed by the 1987 Constitution.

Leonen said any attempt to impose controversial practices—like stoning to death for adultery or forcing women to wear burkas—similar to those in conservative Islamic countries, could be challenged in the Supreme Court in Manila.

“There is separation of Church and State … Based on the Constitution of the Republic, it is the Supreme Court [that] will have the final say if a punishment is cruel or unusual, or if [a rule or policy] violates equal protection under the law, freedom of expression, or the nonestablishment clause,” Leonen said.

“There are rights guaranteed by the Constitution and we would be among the first to object if these are violated,” he added.

Leonen said the Office of the President and constitutional bodies like the Commission on Audit (COA) would also retain their oversight functions in the running of Bangsamoro.

“That was not bargained away … the Supreme Court, COA, the Commission on Elections will have their say,” he said.

Sharia

When asked what role Sharia would play in Bangsamoro, Leonen replied: “Shariah will govern Muslims … If you’re a Muslim and you marry another Muslim, you’re not under the Civil Code but under Muslim law. That’s already the existing system.”

He went on: “They can expand (the coverage of) Sharia, maybe the dowry system, but it should be consistent with the Constitution. There are so many pieces of legislation that are applicable to Sharia and are consistent with the Constitution, like those on personal and family relations, inheritance, succession.”

Leonen emphasized that Filipino Muslims are “moderates” and do not follow harsh and ultraconservative interpretations of Sharia.

“I have talked to ustadzes [Islamic teachers] and [learned that] there are many ways that Islam is interpreted. So, the Muslim world is very broad, but [Muslims] also believe in one book,” Leonen said.

He also said that the government would leave it up to the private sector to fund Islamic religious schools, or madaris.

“There is separation of Church and State and the state regulates education. But [the Department of Education] will have to be culturally sensitive on what they will allow [these schools] to teach,” Leonen said.

Tripoli agreement not treaty

The government peace panel appeared to be avoiding a controversy with Misuari.

Deles refrained from commenting on Misuari’s charge that the MILF deal is illegal.

Leonen, however, disagreed with Misuari’s view that the MNLF deal was “internationally recognized.”

“It is not a treaty,” Leonen said.

The MNLF was “not a state” when it negotiated with the government, he said.

“We know they’re alive,” Deles said, referring to Misuari’s veiled threat. “I am the one talking with them. It is our intention to fix the problems and ensure that [they will be in the new political entity].”

In a phone interview Wednesday, Deles said the government panel consulted the MNLF through Indonesia, the facilitator of the talks with Misuari’s group.

“We have sent the message that we intend the process of making the new law inclusive, that they will have representation in the Transition Commission, an intent that we have communicated to the MILF as well,” Deles said.

 

Help from OIC

Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC), where the MNLF has observer status, had convened MNLF and MILF leaders to “push for unity and coordination.”

He did not say, however, when and where the meeting took place.

Deles said Misuari and the faction of the MNLF led by Muslimin Sema had long wanted to amend Republic Act No. 9054, the law that fleshed out the peace deal with the MNLF.

The government had agreed to amend the law, Deles added.

The Aquino administration and the MNLF have been conducting an “implementation review” of the 1996 accord, “but the MILF process has caught up with it,” Deles said.

As for the Tripoli Agreement that the MNLF signed with the Marcos administration in 1976, Deles said all of its provisions had already been implemented through the 1996 peace accord.

Once the Bangsamoro basic law is passed, the ARMM will be abolished and the new law will supersede the 1996 peace agreement, Deles said. With a report from Nikko Dizon

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  • mon key

    The process used in coming up with the preliminary agreement is to say the least – transparent and honest. This declaration coming from the negotiating panel will remove the discomfort that some people – not living in Mindanao have – that Sharia Law will be implemented even on non-muslims. This is just an agrement. What will count most is when the agreement will be signed and the Bangsamoro state will be implemented. That process will take years and will need VIGILANCE and constant monitoring from every one – including the Tripeoples of Mindanao.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WEBQQWQDFI3HXAMQFTUHVVUHNU ame mojica

    For whatever reason under Cory’s administration this creation under the constitution of an autonomous region for the Moslems was not a good idea for the Philippines. We have all differences but se should be united under one flag, one government and one constitution. Why do the Moslems need an autonomous region for themselves.Why are theyso special than the rest of us? Proven time and time again that Moslem leaders  do not know how to govern properly  like most of the corrupt leaders we have. Mas grabe pa nga sila. Remember Maguindanao massacre? Hello? I think Pnoy should not push this. Adopt Eraps’ policy.

    • http://twitter.com/Borogol Borogol

      i agree! the only thing I can see here is the plot to win the incoming election..

    • http://jaoromero.com/ Jao Romero

      let them have autonomy and see if they can govern themselves well. if it fails, at least they don’t have an excuse anymore about how imperial Manila is stunting their growth.

    • bozzone

       Adopt Eraps’ policy. “ALL OUT WAR BA YON”? ahehehe

  • http://twitter.com/Borogol Borogol

    mukhang tama si querubin…

  • MnlaBoy

    Legally, you can say PH has separation of church and state. But in reality Catholics and Muslims are still operating on the same principle…

    Fear of going to Hell > Fear of going to Jail.

    Islam is a political religion. Even Malaysia (Sorry, they’re not truly Asia) and Indonesia are both operating within the Sharia Law. Would the Bangsamoros be any different?

  • Albert Einstien

    PATRIOTIC LEADERS if still theres ANY.. should FILE a claim to the UNITED NATIONS now before MALAYSIA will succeed in dividing us… NINOY AQUINO is a FRIEND of malaysian leaders…dont expect pnoy to make a CLAIM…STUDY HISTORY of the aquinos..
    ART II SEC. 3 1987 constitution . AFP is the protector of the PEOPLE & the STATE …It’s GOAL is to SECURE the SOVEREIGNTY of the STATE and the INTEGRITY of national territory…..AFP that is your constitutional DUTY.. you are not even required to be patriotic but you have your constitutional duty…!
    this DEAL was made under auspices of MALAYSIAN GOVT.. lets remember it is during our CLAIM of SABAH that MUSLIM rebellion was BORN 1965..who financed & supported them is STILL a SECRET. we ONLY know that NINOY is a FRIEND of the malaysian leaders & he is also the one who DIVULGEd & PUBLICLY EXPOSED the secret plan of Marcos to RECLAIM SABAH…countless patriotic soldiers, muslim fighters & civilians DIED as a result of rebellion…..after ninoy’ expose of the marcos sabah re-claim.muslim rebellion begun…· 4.17MILLION & 2470 barangays ang paghaharian ng ilsang maliit na rebeldeng grupo( mas madami pa barangays kesa sa arms nila ) …ang daming rebeldeng grupo jan sa lugar na yan hindi nga sila nakunsulta at pumayag..…kagabi lang 2 muslim freedom leaders ang lumabas sa TV at kinokondena …ang agreement….lalo lang magkakagulo yan……ipinamimigay nan g gobyerno mga teritoryo ng Republika…they are just giving FALSE HOPE to our muslim brothers & the international commnunity…they KNOW it is doomed to FAIL…..KABALIWAN na ang naghahari sa PILIPINAS!
    CUT the CRAP….HYPOCRITES…TRAITORS…..& GREEDY POLITICIANS

  • Albert Einstien

    WHAT is under the constitution is the creation of ARMM ( AUTONOMOUS lang ) not a CREATION of a BANGSA MORO & a POLITICAL ENTITY( new STATE ) …That is why it is UNDER the LOCAL GOVERNMENT provision lang!!..and there is NO other provision that it SUBJECT to RE-INVENTION……it is ONLY given ONCE……. if it is a FAILURE the proper thing to do is to RE-ORGANIZE its OFFICERS …NOT to create a NEW one & keep on EXPANDING it EVERY TIME there is a FAILURE of governance… until they get all the LUZVIMINDA…that is pure INSANITY…!
    after the creation of ARMM there can be NO expansion or extention …nor a RE-CREATION…..the constitution only provides for its CREATION ..not RE-CREATION or REPEATEDLY created after-failures and failures.., till it gets whole of luzon & visayas…
    NOW on the OTHER HAND , the cordillera autonomous region CAN ALSO ASK the WHOLE of LUZON…is that NOT proper?…if this govt can SURRENDER sovereignty & territory to a small bunch of REBELS who does not even control their area ( many rebel groups )  why the govt. can NOT give the SAME PRIVILEGES to ( 95 million) christian & communist rebels in LUZON & VISAYAS…Is this NOT a LUNATIC VISION of GOVERNANCE?!

    • PurpleDaisy13

      Does this mean you’ll be out protesting on October 26 instead of taking the day off to enjoy your new Muslim holiday in the Philippines?

    • mon key

      Hey, you are having a mean streak of paranoia. . . and why are you hiding behind the name of a genius. your reasoning is an insult to his memory. i am sure you are not from mindanao, that’s why you are so paranoid. you are so wrong. the government is not surrendering sovereignty. and there has never been any rebellion in luzon and visayas against the spaniards and succeeding governments that held power in the philippines. if your reasoning were the norm, there would be endless senseless war in mindanao. the people of mindanao are fed up with war. why are you scared of misuari? he messed up. he does not have credibility anymore. let’s give this agreement a chance to move mindanao forward, while you go get your self some one to check your paranoid self.

      • AIMD1876

        May bagong sakit ata ngayon aah… PARANOID SYNDROME
        andaming naapektohan…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

      Huli na bago sila nagkaintindihan… puro kasi English at hindi Bisaya o Tagalog kaya. Kaya ayan ang akala ng isa… bansa kaya dapat may sarili silang watawat at bayang-magiliw. PUSTAHAN TAYO MAGTATAYO SILA NG SARILI NILANG BANDERA!

  • Fulpol

    The framework of Bangsamoro as new political entity is in fact not territorial transition like pursuing federalism but.. creating a “dependent territory”, which means “giving away” a portion of the Philippine territory. Bangsamoro as a dependent territory “still belong” to the Philippines but “no longer part” of the Philippines.

    This is like an idea of “decolonization”, wherein Bangsamoro is a former “state” that was colonized.. and now, they want to regain, reclaim, recapture their “former statehood” prior to colonization.

    Decolonization means you are losing your former colonized territory. In the case of Bangsamoro, it is a combination of “decolonization” and “dependent territory”.. Bangsamoro during Spanish and American colonization is like a “colony within a bigger colony”.

    You want to “give back” what is rightfully belong to Bangsamoro people, the “statehood” but under the jurisdiction of the controlling state which is the Philippine government, specifically under the jurisdiction of the Philippine President.  

    Dependent territory enjoys a high level of autonomy. If the agreement will push through, people under the coverage area of this new political entity, will no longer be called Pilipinos/Filipinos but Bangsamoro people.. There are still Philippine citizen but not Pilipinos. 

    Since the agreement created a new political entity, specifically a “dependent territory”, an amendment of the Constitution is required. This is in contrary to what Leonen and Enrile says. You are not dividing, creating a subnational territory or entity but you are “giving away” a part your territory… ARMM creation as enshrined in the Constitution is not like that..

    Employing a ministerial or prime ministerial government or parliamentary government is just an act of exercising a high degree of autonomy by the new “dependent territory” and “decolonized territory”. Again, a new object of experiment.. trial and error.

    • mon key

      I admire your reasoning. You are not Fulpol as you want your self to be name in this forum. you should trade names with the person hiding behind the genius who put together the theory of relativity. he is really paranoid and pulFool!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

       Dependent or Independent??? ang dependent = umaasa, ang independent = nagsasarili. Bopol ka talaga!!!

    • $29483279

       This comment doesn’t sound like the former Fulpol. It may have been done by a person I can call FOOLFUL,Filled with foolish ideas.

      Nice presentation fulpol. I miss your “ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  • Fulpol

    Bangsamoro is not about Islam.. it is bigger than their religion.

  • kadzki

    di lang yata alam ng karamaihan sa atin na ang ultimate goal ng mga iyan ay total independence at full implementation of their sharia laws……..give it 10 years time and all of us will see how wrong we are to let this happen………

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/TMT3HFNCYMQQSO4T5GKEHS5L5Y Romel

      I agree with you. A decade from now, they will show their true colors and true aspiration of an independent state. Christians will be at a loosing end in Mindanao. They are and will be deceitful in every terms and there is a passage in the Koran that allows deceit.

      • mon key

        hey, please show to us that passage in the Koran that allows deceit. i can easily tell that you are full of bigotry and ignorance. which is slowly turning you into a paranoiac.

    • bozzone

      TrAydOr sila..

  • http://jaoromero.com/ Jao Romero

    if i’m the government, i assassinate Nur and replace him on the MNLF with someone amenable. the egghead is just a power hungry maniac that did nothing for the people of Mindanao. how many years has he been governor of ARMM? what did he do? he just made his Muslim brothers poorer. dapat sila-sila na magpatalsik dyan sa ogag na yan eh.

    • AIMD1876

      You assassinate a known icon (na umabot na sa UN); you start and ignite a battlecry of the bangsamoro = Claim for independence, supported by UN = Independence of the Bangsamoros…

      Hmmm. Ano? ha?

  • boybakal

    BangsaMoro will not become an Islamic State…Never it will happen.
    But a Malaysia state, possible. The peace accord was signed in Kuala lumpur with the help of Malaysian gov’t.
    Malaysia is a Federal Gov’t and Sabah which many says our own is now a Federal State of Malaysia.
    They are coming as Sulu and Tawi Tawi are just miles away from Malaysia.

    • mon key

      na praning ka lang. ‘wag ka ganyan. ok? bigyan mo nang pagkakataon na ma hinto na ang bakbakan sa mindano. 

    • AIMD1876

      isa pa tong paranoid.

  • pikloy

    Thanls God there will be peace among Relegion who out betters each other.for years and years yet they both  know there is only one God.

  • Albert Einstien

    iT’S like a DRAGON ( AFP ) surrendering to the DEMANDS of a puppy (MNLF ) …where in fact there are more bigger DOGS ( MNLF,BIFF & ARMED tribesmen..)  in the same area…..it’sjust  plain & simple lunacy to  surrender  sovereignty & territory…there MUST be SECRET DEALINGS ..they DONT want the people to KNOW…..are the govt corrupt officials HIDING something..are they PREPARING for their GOLDEN PARACHUTE in exchange of all these territories lost & sovereignty? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V7W2T7T2N37DLVYJSM2OV4GJ4A Ramon S

    IIsa lang ang solusyon sa MILF at MNLF sa Mindanao na yan isurender armas nila at makipagtulungan sa gobyernong na hindi corrupt na lipulin ang massamang grupo sa Mindanao, dahil ang mangyayari diyan may FREEDOM FIGHTERS na naman na nag hihintay na sila na naman ang bigyan ng pera ng gobyerno at mag claim na sila ang ligitimate na grupo tulad ng MILF . wasakin ang mga kampo nila at e change into agricultural land kailangan isang arm forces lang hindi yung sila libring humawak ng baril pag hindi isurender ang baril nila this peaceful aggreement ay walang kahihinatnan gagawin lang nilang hostage ang Gobyerno dahil sa kanilang  prinsipyo SELF DEFENCE LANG ang palagi nilang rason dahil ni minsan for 40 years of my observation wala pa akung narinig sa kanilang LEADER NA UMANGKIN NA SILA AY NAGKAKAMALI O UMANGKIN MAN lang na sila ay nagkakamali sa mga karumal dumal na krimen na nangyayari sa lugar nila sa Mindanao.

    • superpilipinas

      Kung ako ay ex-MILF at may AK47 o M16 at nakatira sa Mindanao, Hindi ko isusurender. Napakadelikado sa Mindanao. Sino ang magtatanggol sa akin at pamilya kundi ang sarili.

      Ayusin muna nila ng husto ang PNP at AFP sa Mindanao at tutukan nila ang mga terorista, warlords, at private armies. Saka ko lang isusurender. Pero sa ngayon, kahit granada baka kulang pa.

      • mon key

        nakatira ka ba sa mindanao na masabi mo na delikado dito? mas delikado pa sa tondo at sa mga squatter area sa metro manila. sa totoo lang naman. 

      • superpilipinas

        nakarining ka na ba ng 50+ na tao na massacre ng mayor sa Tondo?! 1000 na tao lumilikas tuwing bakbakan?

      • AIMD1876

        Ehem. Hindi lahat ng Nasa mindanao ay may ganung pangyayari. Once lang yun nangyari at napakalaking in-point area natin… Kung may gulo sa Mindanao, “Kita mo? Nakarinig ka na ng 50+ na tao na massacre? sa Mindanao lang yan!”

        Kung magbibilangan tayo ilan ang mga crimes… tiyak mas marami dito sa Maynila. di lang natin napapnsin kasi parang naging karaniwan na sa atin.

  • $18209031

    Once this agreement is signed. the AFP must move more troops into the surrounding christina provinces to encircle the new MILF lair. Time for action is now to prevent illegal shipment of arms and ammo from neighboring Malaysia. Money from Sabah oil drilling is financing these MILF if you dont know. Kayumangging AFP must now allow US troops to participate in real combat rather than being mere observers.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

      Tama ka, Negro AFPako.  kilos na at unahan mo na, Negro AFPako.

    • AIMD1876

      Ay nako, pinapairal na naman natin ang pagiging War-Freak.

      Helloo po. HIndi lahat ng sulosyon military. Isipin niyo nga anung mangyayari pag papalibutan ng AFP ang MILF area? Di tatagal at magkakaroon ng Tensyon, at tiyak magkakagiyera na naman. At sino ulit ang sisishin? Mga MILF? Mga AFP? Sino ang maapektohan? Mga sibilyan!Kung gagawin niyo ang “move more troops into the surrounding christina provinces to encircle the new MILF lair” the more reason na mag-aarmas ang grupo. Instinct na yun, to protect themselves and their territory. Kasi may nakapalibot na THREAT.

       Kung wala ang mga AFP (as in totally) and we let the new Government handle it, mismong MILF pa ang magsusrender ng armas nila. Bat pa sila mag-aarmas eh mga kapatid na nila nsa palibot nila. wala ng THREAT. Ang dapat na lang sana ay magtiwala tayo. Learn to give a little Trust naman.

      Masyado kayong paranoid. Di na kayo natuto sa mga nangyari sa nagdaang enkwentro.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFMPJUN2MD252PZUKVRYCTCKB4 Tadyak

    We as tagalog, is totally different with islam, from culture to every bit of their belief. SO why don’t let them have what they need? Napakatagal na ring naghirap ang mga residente dyan, makikita mong puro putol putol ang kamay o paa ng mga magulang ng mga bata at ang mga bata naman may phobia o shock dahil sa nararanasan nila. Kung ito ang magpapatahimik sa magulong mundo ng Bangsamoro, ba’t hindi mo ibigay? kontrolado pa naman ito ng Pilipinas dahil under pa rin xa ng Gobyerno. Ito lang namn ang hinihingi nila, ang makapagsarili para maipractice ang kanilang kultura na umaayon din ang sarili nilang batas sa kanilang komunidad.

    Pagbigyan na natin ang ating mga kababayan na ilang dekada na ring nakaranas ng sobrang hirap at takot. patahimikin na natin ang buhay nila…. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wong-Fei-Hong/100002527307006 Wong Fei Hong

      No way, we will send our communist troop their to fix those errors…One of the errors their is their offensive right and freedom of handing arms and weaponry 

      • AIMD1876

        May nawawala ata ah. Saang banda ng tsina ba to galing?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V7W2T7T2N37DLVYJSM2OV4GJ4A Ramon S

    Dahil kapag hindi isurender armas nila , kahit sila ang gumawa ng gulo sasabihin lang nila kaagad sa ibang grupo yun hindi kami o sasabihin na naman nila splinter group yun tumiwalag na sa amin at hindi makakilos ang gobyerno Arm forces dahil sasabihin nila pinasok kuta nila kaya tinira nila ang sundalo pero yung mga Kidnapper ay nando on mismo sa area nila nag operate at gumawa pa ng kampo sa tabi ng MILF . Kunwari nag giyera sila wala namang tinatamaan sa kanila drama lang!!!Experience is a Good Teacher dahil 40 years na strategy nila itong ginagawa and very effective up to this time. KUNG WALANG ARMAS WALANG GULO THE Lord of war is the weaponry.

    • bozzone

      i seconded (‘o’)

  • superpilipinas

    I don’t share the same fear. It’s all politicsl and power play. First there were ceasefires, and then there was ARMM, and then BangsaMoro. Maybe tomorrow it’s a different name…a different joke. People have become cynical.

    I fear for my brother and sister Christians, Muslims, etc. in Minadano, oppressed, abused, deprived, killed. And to me, the only way is to relocate all the heads of departments and head offices of our government to Mindanao….where they are needed the most. When that day comes, only then will I know that there is hope for Mindanao.

  • $18209031

    Itong peace agreement ay pakitang hilas ito sa mga Kayumangging tagalegs at ilocandio sa poder . Aba, nag pakitang hilas pa nagbibigay ng award sa yang babae sa peace agreement. Celebrate sila ng walang oras kaagad. What is going on? It seems like magic, peace is at hand and long lasting. Ang mga pananalita mga ilocandio at tagalegs na ito ay bulok. Gusto naman nila e kontrollin lahat ng Mindanao kaya pinag encouraged nila noon ang Ilocandio and Ilonggo migrations to Mindanao in the early last century sa tawag na HomeSteading . Thus displacing the many muslim tribes. Ang tawag nila, Free lands to those who will develop it  . At this add s the christianization of Mindanao. Ganon ka hakub ang mga Luzon noon. Agaw lupa with threats of force and political intimidations.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFMPJUN2MD252PZUKVRYCTCKB4 Tadyak

    Alam nyo bang ang Islam ay may tintawag na halal food? na kahit kubyertos na gingamit nila ay hindi pwedeng ipangkain sa ibang pagkain? at nabibili lamang ito sa registered halal restaurant?

    Maraming kaugalian at batas ang islam na hindi natin alam kaya tama lamang na magkaroon na sila ng sarili nilang kakintalan, dahil sila nakakaalam ano ang pangangailangan nila. May mga batas na necessary para lang sa kanila, na sinusunod nila.

    guluhin man sila ng rebelde, sila sila na ang magtirahan dahil sila rin namn ang namumuno na sa kanilang lugar. Gugustuhin pa ba nila gumulo ang lugar na kanila na?

    Sa inyo na ang bangsamoro, kung yan ang magpapatahimik sa inyo, mga kapatid kong Muslim.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GXW7D5BRXH62NGO2BM3CFXMYTY Asher

      Tadyak tagasaan ka. Kung hindi mo alam ang buhay ng taga Mindanao tumahimik ka dahil hindi mo naranasan ang pamumuhay ng isang Kristiyano sa Mindanao. Dadanak ang dugo at magkakaroon ng gulo na naman sa Mindanao. Dapat kinunsulta ng gobyerno ang mga taga Mindanao hindi yung taga Luzon/Manila ang nakakipagtransaction sa mga MILF.

      • Marx Louis Wang

         Oo nga, e. Hindi muna siniyasat ng mabuti kung sino man ang naninirahan doon. Sa pangalan pa lang, BANGSA = Bansa. HAHAHAHAHA, MALIIT NA BANSA SA LOOB NG MALIIT NA BANSA.

      • AIMD1876

        Eh Asher naman, san ba nanggaling ang mga Kristiyano?

        Bumalik na lang kaya kayo sa Visayas at Luzon.

  • TuwadNaDaan

    Corruption pervasive under Aquino administration

    MANILA, Philippines – Former national treasurer Leonor Briones claimed that corruption has worsened and is pervasive as ever under the Aquino administration.Briones said that the audit report of the Commission on Audit (COA) regarding losses in the national treasury of P101 billion during the time of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo also showed that portion of the unaccounted funds was spent during the term of President Aquino.She told a forum in Manila last Tuesday that it is unfair to blame the Arroyo administration for losses incurred based on the 2011 audit report because it is also clear that a significant portion could be attributed to the present administration.Briones said contrary to claims that corruption has been curbed, the report shows that it is still pervasive, if not much worse than the previous administration since irregularities in the disbursements of funds increased during the Aquino administration as could be seen in Tables II.4-A and II.4-B of the COA report.She explained that in accounting parlance, an audit finding that is termed as unqualified means there is no anomaly, while a qualified finding means there is an anomaly.In Table II.4-A of the audit report pertaining to the national level, it found that the number of unqualified findings had decreased from 52 and 54 unqualified findings in 2009 and 2010, respectively to just 44 in 2011. This means that in 2011 there had been lesser agencies that have been found to be honest and regular in the disbursements of their funds.

    • Marx Louis Wang

       Isinuot mo reading glasses mo??? Out of topic ka yata! Cut-and-paste mo para maiblog sa nararapat na kalagyan.

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Now Misuari is talking. Illegal raw ang MILF. BAKEEET HINDI MO NIREKLAMO ITO NOON PA!!!???

  • Commentator

    How come they are using the word Moro which is a Spanish word for Muslim. If their MILF people existed before the Spanish time they should use that word and not Bangsamoro which means nation of Moro or Muslims. The government should not even approved Bangsamoro term because it will embolden Muslims to fight for secession.

  • WAJ

    The peace agreement that authorizes MILF the creation of the parliamentary state of Bangsamoro will become the biggest problem that the Philippine government will ever have. Separation between the church and state is forthcoming. Bangsamoro will become a nation with an Islamic rule. The whole region of Mindanao will be under Islamic rule and therefor will separate from the Democratic government of the Philippines. 

  • rodben

     As Pinoy I want PEACE all over Pinas like what I’ve observe in other country you can sleep well, and I would like to thanks on the efforts and a hard work by the negotiators, but based on the agreement has Mr. Leonen said I hope that the MNLF will not go back in the jungle together with BIFF to fight against the gov’t again, if these happen it’s a bigger problem again on the next administration and soon to be solve, we know that the MALAY people has a high pride when it comes to leadership and accountability….they always says OVER MY DEAD BODY…. anyway we’ll PRAY TO ALAH..

  • Paul David

    Why not separate the Philippines into three entities like Bangasomoro: Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao = Bangasomoro??? and oh, one more entity: Palawan, that owns Spratly…

    • JK1000

      Get sober !

    • $18209031

      Why not separate Luzon with US  as backer. ?  Visayas,  Mindanao  and Palawan  with China and Malaysia as main  backers ? BEsides China is ready to infuse investments into brothers in Visayas and Mindanao.   THen the country will be in perpetual peace from then on.  

  • UrHONOR

    >>>Following the announcement of the preliminary agreement on Sunday, she said, a group of Bangsamoro proposed a campaign called “Bangsamoro Ako, Filipino.”<<<

    BAKA ang susunod nyan ay maglagay ng party list na BADAF (Bangsamoro Din Ako, Filipino).  Huwag naman sana.

  • JK1000

    Time will tel if these muslim terrorists wants peace in Mindanao, If the MNLF doesn’t want to join the new Bansamoro, let the MILF fights the MNLF.

  • theoklab

    Bangsamoro is sustainable only if we have a federal form of government as what former Senator Pimentel was advocating. 

    • agaylaya

      I am from the north and I think so, too!! 

  • RealityCheckX

    What a balls-up! This framework-not-yet-a-treaty surrenders more territory to 1 Muslim rebel group, hands over more power than ARMM ever had, lets Muslims go around  gun-toting at will, subjugates all Catholic settlers who went there in the time of Magsaysay, and implements Sharia law in a Christian country. No wonder Noynoying enjoys declaring Muslim holidays as if we were already a Muslim country. There will be no peace in Mindanao unless we enforce 1 law for all.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OC7REZHN2QZZ4W3NI4SU7EEF5U Allan

    Never ending story. From maranaws vs tausug to MNLF to MILF next BIFF.

     

  • Phenoy

    The Muslims will never be satisfied. We have pacts with MNLF, now MILF. Waiting in the wings is a new armed group to wreak havoc. Rinse and repeat. 

  • Platypus09

    They need to educate us, the Filipino people, more on the written provisions or details of this agreement by discussing these things more on national TV shows. This should be main content of the current TV news articles, interviews and media.  

    These video clips could be good evidence just in case any side will not follow the provisions (or some) in the future.

    So people would know and their questions answered to allay their fears before both negotiating parties will sign the final agreement form.

    We, the people, would like to see and read the copy of the final agreement, signed or not signed.

    Thank you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R5TJX5CSLQZHMKZR3ZCIQCB2N4 Bolay-og

    sa aking pananaw, babalik ang mga grupo ng mga ILAGA sa mindanao pag nagkagipitan na…its more fun in the philippines….sasakit ang ulo ni panot nito……

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

       I have a christian friend from Mindanao, kung tutuusin aniya, matagal na sanang matahimik diyan sa Mindanao, ayaw lang daw talaga ng mga taong pumatay dahil wala iyan sa dugo ng pinoy. Isipin niyo na lang this group is considered minority. MINORITY IBIG SABIHIN MAS MARAMI SILANG MAKAKALABAN KUNG TUTUUSIN.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Of course this newly created ‘Bangsamorro’ will be an Islamic state?  What else can it but that?

  • Platypus09

    Both sides are tired of the war.

    MNLF and MILF are having issues already. Their leaders are getting old, nobody has a good command of what they are looking for. They have to settle for less.

    Middlle eastern countires, which are their supporterrs before, are having economic difficulties of their own and don’t believe in wars anymore, while their people in Mindanao are struggling to make ends meet and in real poverty.

    Their soldiers are longing to come back with their wives and families from the jungles. These are their new generations and don’t care about warring with fellow Filipinos.

    They themselves are not united. They have all kinds of tribes and groups which are not helping them.

    All they have is the Philippine government that is supporting them financially and some other things, one way or another and in most of their daily lives.

    They were born here. They went to Philippine puiblic schools and got educated. What else they are looking for? Plus, they make money selling stuff just like any other Filipinos with their small businesses.

    Plus, they are already outnumbered to begin with, when it comes to real civil war. Most of them want the war to end realistically and practically.   

    Some of their people have migrated to other countries and have no intentions of coming back. Some of these people are NOT supporters of any of these rebel groups.

    It is time for them to make peace with the rest of the country.

    Autonomy is the farthest they can go. I would like to see that provision in that agreement as signed.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4WEDVVXOMPOQ3VYGUKOAVVT574 Pedro Mateo

      The new generation of moro’s are jijadist, they want freedom, liberty and justice. . ah h h it depend on the tribe, my apology to other tribe. .  Their main backer is the OIC. . Plenty of Oil money. .  The Wahhabism group and better search their true intention on Mindanao. . Our government is on the blind. .  Be a Boy Scout. . 

  • agaylaya

    The way to real peace is to…imagine there is no country….imagine there is no religion. We have to do a lot of re-education to achieve this level of understanding inside and outside of the so called Bangsamoro. An impossible dream? Well, at least we can still dream and hope that there is enough good will to carry the dream into reality.

  • Philcor

    Bangsamoro means “Bansa ng MORO”…so meaning Christians should get out of the area because if not, it would become just like what happened in Rwanda between the Hutu’s and the Tutsi’s.

    • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

      why get out? Pumupunta nga sa saudi ang mga tao para magtrabaho, and they respect the law of the host country. Bangsamoro could well be the model of discipline for the whole nation.

      Misuari is only thinking of his own political life. Sa ayaw niya at sa gusto, he will have to follow the new law. This time wala nang balakid para lipulin ng AFP ang hindi susunod sa patakaran, dahil pangungunahan na ito ng bangsamoro wing ng army, unlike before, they saw the AFP as enemy.

      • Philcor

        maniwala ka naman sa mga MILF…what they want is total control. Ang gusto nila, hindi malacanang ang magdidikta kung ano ang dapat ganito at ganyan. MNLF / MILF’s causes are for self determination, so they expect na lahat ng desisyon ay mangga galing sa kanila (Islamic laws, not RP Laws)….What they want only for the Philippine govt is to provide them seed money year after year…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MXEBQ7IU6PR43LWZ6XBZ2YDAMI Luke

      When I heard about the name, “Bansa ng Moro” was the first thing that came to my mind.

  • sowhatifimfilipino

    First MNLF, and then MILF, and then MMLF… MELF…MOLF…MALF… MNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

    There will always be a breakaway group that will ruin whatever agreement you make with these people. They can never agree among themselves because they are all the same greedy, lazy people who want easy money and power. This may sound so prejudiced but I’m sure a good number of Mindanaoans would agree with me. 

    Wake up!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4WEDVVXOMPOQ3VYGUKOAVVT574 Pedro Mateo

      BILF. .  so what do you want . . .

    • AIMD1876

      Haha. At least natawa ako sa pag kanta mo ng ALphabet…

      *Clap clap*

  • randyaltarejos

    There is danger that the approval for the frameworks for the creation of the Bangsamoro State could be subjected to abuses. One clear possibility is that the MILF, which is expected to be dominant authority in the Bangsamoro government, will resort to seeking financial assistance from Middle East countries and then buy military hardwares and arms to fight against the government as what the Hamas fighters are doing in Gaza Strip. It’s not far-fetched from reality. In fact, the MILF can use its power to become a dominant party that can dictate whatever it wants to possess in the pursuit of its political objectives.

    • Julio7

      Don’t worry about the MILF being the dominant forces in the Bangsamoro homeland. There is called the “Archipelago Block” – the people from the islands of Sulu, Basilan and Tawi-tawi. They are more powerful to play the game. However, they are sleeping at this moment…they will soon wake-up.

      Go Tausug, Yakan and Sama!!!

      • AIMD1876

        Natutulog ang iba, at FB ang inaatubag ng karamihan hehe.

  • ben

    We have to expect that with the creation of a new Muslim homeland in Mindanao will not only be  the rise of an Islamic state within the Philippies but will be a rise of new Muslin nation within our country. Who will prevent them from creation of a new country? Not me not you and not Pnoy. They were given a new state without firing a shot in the capital of our country.  All the Muslim nations all over the world will immediate recognize that state. Mindanao will be a thing of the past. They will rename the Islands of Mindanao and Palawan into a Bangsamoro Islamic Republic. The only big difference is that there will be no more Muslim insurgency in the Smaller Philippines and the real Pilipinos can now sleep soundly without fearing the Abusayaf. If there will be a Muslim problem again in our Smaller Philippines it will be a war between two nations of the Bangsamoro and the Smaller Philippines. Actually I dont care about these developments because I have a big properties outside Mindanao where Pnoy can properly secure and defend the real Pilipinos.
    So MABUHAY ANG SMALLER PHILIPPINES!!!

    • Julio7

      Will it nice to see a Moro and a Filipino seating on ASEAN or UN Assembly?

      Will it nice to see a Moro and a Filipino athletes competing boxing in the Olympic?

      • AnakSugPakainKaw

        That was a DREAM…

        And the dream will become a reality.

      • AIMD1876

        Uwah anak sug… pakain na kaw yan ? hehe

        salam dua taymanghud.(Naglamud-lamud hadja saini ha mga tau riy hehe. Mataud tuud wala pa nakahati tsk tsk)

  • ApoLapullapu

    At least the Bangsamoro dream of self-determination is realized within the ambit of the Philippine Constitution.  If the Bangsamoro factions will quarrel among themselves, the government will naturally mediate.  But if they cannot agree and fight among themselves like the factional skirmishes in Maguindanao, it will be a case of the Bangsamoro choosing to destroy the peace in their own communities. And it would still be self-determination.

  • PureBloodedPinoy247

    The agreement shall have a provision that in case of abuse, graft and corruption and or any violations, the agreement will be deemed void, at the sole discretion of the Philippine Government via the President or Congress or Senate or The Supreme Court of the Philippines.

    • GaryFil

      That is correct, kasi may mga naririnig ako tungkol kay Nur Misuari na he abused power and incorrectly spending the cofers, anong nangyari na?  Untouchables ba sila?  They can break all the rules including theirs?  Ano yan lokohan?

  • Datukalun

    The fanatical fact of the religion and the love for firearms power and greed is there So the possibility is too big…W/ the wrong indoctrins  too……….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JOE4ERQ4LEWVPFFRNZSAU237BU Bliss

    Our govt. has managed to give a distinct identity to a Bangsamoro apart from an ‘ordinary’ Filipino much like the Kurds (who are currently mounting a separate Kurdish state) in Iraq and Turkey.
    It further used the terms – “those who at the time of conquest and colonization…” as well as the places/areas of its territory and governance(autonomy). With these developments unfolding, one cannot help but notice the uncanny similarities it has with the events that transpired before the East Timor independence.
    The MILF may be getting its original wish after all with the current government as its unwilling accomplice. The final nail to the coffin may well be no longer at our government’s hands, as one day, we may probably find ourselves waking up to see the arrival of UN Peacekeeping Forces conducting a UN sponsored plebiscite on Bangsamoro’s independence.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

       NO WAY… YOU SEE YOU ARE PROVOKING TROUBLE ALREADY SO YOU CAN GET INDEPENDENCE!  NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY ….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

        then, drop dead..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7QZGSD2PKH75PUIZY5TVTQJKTI Broton

    It’s a high time now to recognize Bangsamoro a new identity for a new development for freedom, justice and economic development for our Muslim brothers. I believed that with this new provision of autonomy will lead to the economic improvement of Mindanao and to the lives of our Muslim brothers and Christian brothers as well. When Mindanao will get rise economically, then it will be an attribute to the whole Filipino nation, as a trully economic tiger of the asian region. Our Muslim brothers in the Philippines are actually peace loving people (the existence of some “elements” is due to lack of opportunities for our Muslim brothers) and let us give them a chance to partner in our economic growth. Eliminate those politicians whose desires are always in their greedy interests and hinder’s the economic growth of our country. Gov’t allays fears of Bangsamoro becoming an Islamic state . . . is actually a fear of losing their greedy interest.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4WEDVVXOMPOQ3VYGUKOAVVT574 Pedro Mateo

    Peace. .  Estoryahe. .  My parent were marriage in Pikit, Cotabato in 1950. Their marriage contract were in Arabic. My family were the first IDP because my father does not want war. My father is from Bohol-Surigao ancestry while my mother is Ilonga who is teacher while my father is a heavy equipment operator who made the Cotabato highway,his bosses is Ilocano.  . 

    If you don’t know the true cause of conflict in Mindanao and how it evolved then peace will not be achieved. . I live now in Surigao but I longing to go back to the place that I was borned.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RHEWCHBTAX4UYGZQSLHERPUC4 Kent Tu

       Who is your English teacher?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

      ayusin mo muna grammar mo bago ka makipag argue..peace.

    • vinzerx

      So are your parents supposed to be important or something? Because I don’t see the point of your whole post. A bunch of jumbled words and zero substance.

  • missaya

    bombing in cagayan de oro just this morning – 2 dead. somebody is sabotaging the peace process. God Bless the mindanao

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wong-Fei-Hong/100002527307006 Wong Fei Hong

    In the end Moro rebels and Communist armies are on rivalry..It seems NPA and Moros are both stronger combat force in the Philippines.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TBH6TYEASRY3LFRXFHGOJ6CE5Y FortCity

    i can smell blood….more blood….more death….more!

    • AIMD1876

      Baka dinuguan lang yan.

  • ninestrokes

    How is the establishment of a Shariah Court/Law not a violation against the separation of Church and State? Sharia IS the code of laws of Islam. Insane.

  • sigena

    ano ba percentage sa population ang muslim sa mindanao.? 

    • RK

      Minority lang ang mga muslim sa mindanao, rougly  mga nasa 20%.  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

        where is your statistics? Dont under estimate us..

      • NinjaMan

        kung gusto ba ni porky pig mag balik islam, tatanggapin nyo ba siya?

      • AIMD1876

        Hindi.

        Kasi… kelan pa ba nag-isip mga baboy na mag-bagong buhay?
        yan kasi nangyayari pag kumakain kayo ng baboy, pati pag-iisip nagiging ano na rin… y know na :-)hehe

      • NinjaMan

        pero kung bawal sa inyo ang baboy, bakit meron mga muslim na may negosyong piggery?

      • NinjaMan

        according to wikipedia: “Christians form the majority, with 63% of the population; Muslims are 32% of the population; 5% are affiliated with other religions. The native Maguindanaon and other native Muslim or non-Muslim groups of Mindanao have a culture that is different from the main cultures of the Southern Philippines.”

      • AIMD1876

        And so?

  • Rap88

    Me think, the gov’t panel and the MILF just agreed to meet halfway and the creation of an Islamic state is just choked or parked momentarily in the pipeline. Hope I am wrong. I pray for peace.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6GI72NN7RSH5MF5SA7NVN5MYRM Gene

    Actually, the peace brought about by this agreement is just temporary…..familiarize ourselves with shariah law…and you will know what i mean….no law or agreement can solve the arm struggle problem in mindanao…

  • kalealaskador

    Are the Moslems and Christians living in Mindanao Filipinos? They are. Accordingly, they should obey Philippine laws. Patas patas lang. Why should we have different laws for Muslims and different laws for Christians? What about the other cultural minorities? Those who break the law should be punished accordingly. The laws under our Constitution are for all Filipinos.

    There is no need to create a “special” government for rebels. Either they join the rest of the citizens, or get out of the Philippines. There should be no special treatment from the Philippine government. If they want war, give them war. If they want peace, they follow our constitution. Tapusin na natin ito, once and for all!

  • carlcid

    Leonen and Deles are babes in the woods. There is an old Muslim proverb which says: “Never let a camel get his nose in the tent. If he gets his nose in, he will get his head in. If he gets his head in, he will get his hump in. And if he gets his hump in, then he will get his rump in, and you will have a camel in your tent.”

    Initially, there will be lip service regarding the separation of Church and State and the rights of Christians. But once the camel gets inside the tent, then the camel takes over and does as it pleases. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Correct!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U26PWG4D53NTX6OTBFGZOHAXSM Fil

    Let Bangsamoro practice their Sharia law as long as there will be lasting peace in Mindanao.
    There are a lot of Filipinos in Muslim countries and can co-exist peacefully and I am one of them.

    Go, GO, GO Muslim brothers and sisters, make your place a paradise to live in.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      there’s PD 1083 – Code of Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines, 1977

      albeit contains laws on personal and administrative, it does not contain all muslim laws.

      since 1977, war has escalated. perhaps they want more…laws.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6GI72NN7RSH5MF5SA7NVN5MYRM Gene

     yan ang isa sa magiging problema….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U26PWG4D53NTX6OTBFGZOHAXSM Fil

    Walang iniba yan pagka bumisita sa kabitbahay mo, sumusunod ka sa patakaran sa pamamahay nila. Ganon din yon, kung bibisita ka sa Bangsamoro siempre sundin mo rin ang batas nila. And there is nothing wrong with that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    This might be the last straw. At any rate it treats the longtime existence of armed rebels/terrorists as legal. In short, the govt. gives in to the caprices and tantrums of these head-cutters and head hunters.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      “This might be the last straw. At any rate it treats the longtime existence of armed rebels/terrorists as legal. In short, the govt. gives in to the caprices and tantrums of these head-cutters and head hunters.”

      Agreed.

      But for someone fighting these wars, without clear purpose or end, without winning, without gaining anything worthwhile, loosing soldiers you have commanded into battle and ultimately to their deaths, started by politicians a protected and distant place for some purpose long forgotten and now irrelevant, this might be a welcome change.

      • marionics

        ika nga ni William Tecumseh Sherman
        War Is Hell

  • bedouintrip

    Hoping that it will not turn out like the Palestinians. Before there was PLO-Arafat, then Hezbollah, then Fatah..All have signed agreements.. For the Philippines we have signed agreements with MNLF, MILF, who knows what’s next. Just like mushrooms. may lulubog may lilitaw…

  • TagaMlang

    I think it would be very difficult to implement the separation of church and state because the Shariah law, which is a religious law, is also the basis for the state’s law.  

    One law governs the state and the church so how can there be separation?

    In this case, the separation of the state and church is a fallacy, a myth which our government negotiators are trying to delude themselves and the Filipinos.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Sabihin mo yan ke 
      Ginoong Leonen  at di niya alam yan…… 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U26PWG4D53NTX6OTBFGZOHAXSM Fil

    Malaysia the proponent of this peace process is a diverse society. People of different ethnicity co-exist, yes it is a balancing act but they are good at that.

    Philipines can emulate from them, the only way to have lasting peace in Mindanao is to embrace of Muslim compatriots.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

    The Laws of the land,religeous or otherwise are not always from the dictates of God of Light.Some if not many are the influence of other Gods such as the God of UFO,God of darkness also otherwise known as Nephilim God.Written Laws be it from the Bible or the Quran are just too old and inaccurately done.Thus it should be ammended,re-constructed to todays adaptability for change.The fundamental steps of monumental basics of such change must always rely on good,better if not best.We don’t need for God to do it all for us because you can always blame it on Him if it doesn’t work for all of us.

    • Martin

      Religion and religious people are the root cause of most conflict in the world

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

        The blind leading the blind and most of them are sincere but sicerely wrong…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UF2A2LRFENDLMVFDGOOEFDT24U rafraf

    The Aquino government once more prove ignorant of the decision to  acknowledge Bangsamoro group comprising of few armed secessionist capitalized by Malaysia. If Aquino government allowed the autonomy 1of Bangsamoro, you can rest assured they will declare independence not very far from now because it is part of the plan of Malaysia to integrate Mindanao to Sabah and become Malaysian state being muslim. If Aquino government is sane , it is better to acknowledge the traditional kingdom under the Sultanate of Sulu to guard and control the Philippine sovereigntyand to shut down all the secessionist funded by Malaysia or any other country interested to exploit the resources of Mindanao and it’s people.

    . The Sultanate of Sulu leadership from the beginning has demonstrate loyalty to the Philippine Republic by giving all the political rights due to the Sultanate from the time immemorial. The Sultan of Sulu has ceded all rights to the all the Philippine president’s, this loyalty was war from the leadership  of Bangsamoro who wage wars these last 30 years against the Philippine Republic. The Aquino government is likely a coward to give in to few terrorist in return for peace is not logical to the interest of the Republic. 

    One thing that all the stupid advisers of President Aquino does not know is the ploy that Bangsamoro is using by riding on the back of the Sultanate of Sulu as their platform of claim based on patrimonial  and ancestral rights. Bangsamoro has no patrimonial nor ancestral rights in the sense that their historical claim is based on the Sultanate of Sulu traditional kingdom. If the Aquino government will carefully review and study this comments will open their  dead brain to the truth that Bangsamoro is a secessionist and will continue to insist by the use of arms to proliferate their purpose with the backing of Malaysia to finally unite Mindanao as part of extended state of Sabah. They are using the Tausug people and touting and branding that they are fighting for the historical rights based on the Sultanate  of Sulu Traditional patrimonial and ancestral rights.WAKE UP YOU BUNCH OF TRAITOR TO THE REPUBLIC, WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC SERVANT YOU ARE?  WHERE IS THE SWEARING TO YOUR CONSTITUTION? ARE YOU ANOTHER AGUINALDO TO SELL THE REPUBLIC FOR 20 MILLION DOLLAR TO THE YANKEE OR CHINESE OR MAYBE MORE?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UF2A2LRFENDLMVFDGOOEFDT24U rafraf

    You see what Aquino government is doing ? Giving in to secessionist is a trap , tomorrow they will declare independence and will continue to fight the Philippine Republic to claim the rest of the Philippines using their armed strategy. Aquino government is plain coward and stupid to give in to terrorist. This is the worst historical turnaround to give in to few terrorist in return for artificial peace.Who ever is running the head of Aquino is a traitor to the Republic and must be put on trial for treason.Read between the line folks ,,you do not need to be Harvardian nor UP or Ateneo to read the punchline – The Secessionist run by our neighbor which happen to be the facilitator  and mimicking as Peace Negotiator is the brain to these manipulations by going inside of our system and infiltrate our government.People who run the Philippine Republic is blinded by money invested  by the infiltrators and bought 40 percent of our corporate businesses , use dummy to overtake our economy in all sides of business sectors even the media Wake up you folks , maybe the people need to unseat those politicians being part of the grand heist to sell out the Philippine Republic for a price.

    • Ozamis7

       SHUT>>>UP!!!!!MORON!!!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        You shut up, he is right…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HNZNAPO6OWDVPTBA5Y3A6K3JLY Latigo

    No sa Bangsamoro Government kayong lahat na mga Kristiano sa Mindanao 70% diyan Kristiano labanan niyo mga muslim diyan No iboto sa Plebisito! Ang Bangsamoro mga miembro diyan mga terorista wasakin at durugin sila kailangan ng Pilipinas mga missiles, eroplano at maraming armas para durugin ang mga terorista sa Mindanao wag payagan na maghari sila sa bansang Pilipinas kung ayaw nilang matawag na Filipino lumayas sila dito mamundok sila sa Indonesia o malaysi salot sila sa Mindanao, mga kristiano at matitinong Muslim sa Mindanao labanan ang Bangsamoro, illegal yan at unconstitutional.

  • 100345roselia

    The forthcoming peace agreement between the Philippine government with the Bangsamoro, MILF, MNLF & other muslim splinter groups is an exercise of futility.  It is useless – a waste
    of time, effort & money.

    Why?  Because the ultimate objective of the muslims is a separate statehood for Muslim Mindanao which is contrary to our present Constitution.

    At present, they are just “buying” time.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Iexclude mo ang MNLF, kasi de na secession ang hangarin, gusto nga maibalik na sa atin ang Sabah eh…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HNZNAPO6OWDVPTBA5Y3A6K3JLY Latigo

    No peace until there are terrorists lahat yang mga Bangsamoro members terrorists malaking NO!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Mali ka naman diyan, kaya lang sila ganyan ay me blessing ang malaysia para labanan ang gobyerno…. itanong mo kay kapatid na Nur, alam niya yan…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Bangsamoro now, but soon Islamic Republic of Mindanao?

    • marionics

      e meron nga yung islamic city of marawi e

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        eh kung balik islam na lang kaya buong Pilipinas?

      • NinjaMan

        or balik kristiyano rin kaya kayong mga muslim? alam naman natin na sa christian faith binasehan ni mohammad ang islam eh. kaya kung tutuusin, galing kayo sa kristiyano, kaya kayo ang dapat bumalik.

      • marionics

        naku ayaw! ang sarap ng baboy e he he

      • NinjaMan

        mga muslim sa marawi, maapakan mo lang yung manok nila, buong angkan nila at buong angkan ninyo magpapatayan hanggang katapusan ng mundo eh.

      • marionics

        ang kuwento sa akin diyan e pag nakasagasa ka ng manok nila ay kelangan bayaran mo hindi lang yung manok mismo pero kukuwentahin pa lahat ng itlog at sisiw pa na di pa naipapanganak nung manok na yun at babayaran mo dapat. pag di mo binayaran e dun pa lang maguubusan ng lahi hahaha mga kupal din talaga he he

  • Panch1t0

    I have wrote in my previous blog that these moro group has the mindset and tradition of disagreement for generations. Now we can see that these new peace initiative was not fully 100% in agreement among the group, though majority. But in here there is no minority, otherwise they will be classified as outlaws again.

    Not being pessimistic, but even before marcos’ regime attempts were made for a peace accord in this region. None has been successful so far. The religion does not play part of this. In the past the religion has become the collateral damage.

    This does not mean not to support the new initiative, but thinking into consideration the mindset and tradition where these group grew up, the key may be there.

    Any modern day law will find it fruitless.

    • NinjaMan

      saan previous blog mo sir?

      • Panch1t0

        see comments at On Target
        PDEA agent living in style. There is another one I cant remember but related to this issue.

      • NinjaMan

        comments lang yun sir, hindi yun blog.

      • Panch1t0

        Ok, whatever term you call it, I already wrote my piece. You are in the liberty to share your opinion.

         Allow me to cook now. thanks

  • abbaj

    ok, let’s give one more chance to the peace process. but if it doesn’t work and bangsamoro turns out to be for secession, i agree to the other posters here. durugin ang mga rebelde and drive them out to indonesia and malaysia.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Kakampi natin ang indonesia, drive them to West Malaysia………..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UF2A2LRFENDLMVFDGOOEFDT24U rafraf

    There is no Bangsamoro folks .It is the wild creation of Nur Misuari and of course by the backing of Malaysia. Bangsamoro started when president Marcos plan to retake Sabah which was leaked by the father of Noy Noy and so the Jabidah Massacre.MALAYSIA GOT INFURIATED AND DEVISED HOW TO GET EVEN AND MORE. Bangsamoro is authored and this was fuelled by Malaysia supplying arms and hence used as a tool to get even with Marcos . In return , Malaysia succesfully reverse the situation by having a war in our backyard to avoid the Sabah claim and created a secessionist group to piece away Mindanao from the Philippine Republic.This is the first phase .

    The second phase is more peaceful but cunning. Malaysia pretend to be an ally of the Philippines and invested heavily to infiltrate the governmental system , to control the economy and to control the media but most of all to have a first class information of our move and plan . This proves very successful in disguise of business using Filipino crony. The advantage of controlling part of Philippine economy and media and having the accurate intelligence makes Malaysia to spin the political decision of the Philippine leaders to perfectly aligned with their plan and yet project themselves as innocent and good Samaritan unsuspecting. 
    We need to wake up in this nightmare folks. Those of  you who love the Philippines must voice out and reject secessionist ideals nor support this. Let us prosecute those dumb politicians that ride on this direct treason to our constitution and to our sovereignty.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Reclaim SABAH now!!!! MNLF- Start now!!!!!

  • JuanCitizen

    What about the Muslims who do not want to become part of this Bangsamoro? Muslims who have married Christians?

    • NinjaMan

      there’s no such thing, dahil kung meron, papatayin nila mga yun.

  • Roman31

    Yes, maybe the peace accord signed looks good in paper and the negotiating panel of the government sincerely believes in the success of the peace agreement. However, knowing that most of the Moros now grew up in generations of being able to defy the government and get away with it, I have very much doubt about its success. Even as early as now, there is already Nur Misuari, a Moro leader, is already saying the whole thing is not acceptable to his group. Knowing how they think, we can expect break away groups who will be disenfranchised by the agreement. This is sure as the sun rises in the east each morning. I sincerely pray that I will be proven wrong.

  • Martin

    There were the same negative thoughts about peace initiative in Northern Ireland between the British leaning Protestants and Irish Catholic minority with it’s terrorist wing the IRA ( mainly financed by, yes Americans ) but it was a tremendous success.
    There is nothing to fear as long as the Bangsamorro remains a real democracy. The proof of a REAL democracy is NOT a society that has elections however, it is one where there is a peaceful handover of power.

    But what will the Philippines government do when they start lashing women for drinking beer and stoning unmarried couples, cutting hands off for stealing a chicken? R

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

      Why you are pointing finger on AMERICANS.. AMERICANS are not majority catholic you idiot! They are more on BRITAIN than other else! STUDY okay! Now in Mindanao you want to comment in your nonsense knowledge? You never been in MINDANAO or even vist that place. Muslim can never be trustred! If your from the west you should feel how they treat you.

  • Pogi=”No To Political Dynasty”

    Pagkatapos makuha ang gusto ng MNLF heto naman tayo ngayon bibigyan ng salapi at kapangyarihan ang MILF pagkatapos makuha ang gusto. Sino nanaman kayang mga grupong muslim ang bubuo na kakalaban sa pamahalaan at makikipag negosasyon? Abu Sayaf kaya? O palitan ang kanilang pangalan. Dapat bang magtiwala ang nakakarami sa mga Muslim na ang alam ay maki giyera sa pamahalaan. Nagtatanong lang po? Paano naman kaya ang mga pobreng sundalo natin na pagkatapos ipagtanggol ang bayan laban sa pamahalaan ano kaya ang ibibigay ng namumuno? Tenk Yu!

  • abantug

    Very wrong direction for the Philippines. Watch their motto, ” Bangsamoro ako, Filipino (Ikaw). This is the start of an Islamic State. My few years of  fighting against them was just a waste of time.

  • edward lasker

    A cursory evaluation of this agreement suggests utter chaos in the future. The Phlippine panel is selling the country down the river. This act is a disguised subdivision of Mindanao, no matter how Leonen says otherwise. I hope the SC will declare this unconstitutional again.

  • katabay1106

    By the agreement alone, the whole of Mindanao and the islands of Palawan will be considered Bangsamoro territory. This is worse than the botched agreement during the previous admin and a complete surrender of the Aquino regime to the MILF. The goal of the Bangsamoro to establish a separate Islamic Republic in Mindanao and Palawan is now a reality. The lives of thousands of filipino soldiers sacrificed to preserved the territory of the Republic of the Philippines is wasted and the dismemberment of the country that begun during the muslim rebellion ignited by the Jabidah Massacre exposed by the late Sen. Ninoy Aquino, facilitated by the creation of the ARMM by Cory Aquino is now accomplished by his son Pres. Benigno Simeon C. Aquino III with the separation of the Bangsamoro Islamic Republic of Mindanao and Palawan. Tuwid na daan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      If the OPERATION MERDEKA was not exposed and botched, we should have SABAH  and the so called 7,107 islands is true…

  • Aryong

    First scarborough shoal now some parts in mindanao, next time we know it Philippines archiepelago is no longrer 7,107 (low tide) islands.
    Mukhang napapadalas ang pamimigay ng mga isla ng Pilipinas ng adviser ni PNoy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      “First scarborough shoal now some parts in mindanao, next time we know it Philippines archiepelago is no longrer 7,107 (low tide) islands.” he he he, matagal nang hindi 7,107 islands ang bansa natin, simula ng agawin ng Malaysia ang Sabah…

  • les21reago

     The solution of the conflict in Mindanao could NOT be achieved by ANY PEACE PROCESS dealing of the Philippine Republic government…The country NEED only a MOUSTACHE President like that of Sri Lanka that extinguished a decade long struggle of the TIGER ELAM…

    Peace dealing was granted to them before which is WHY the ARMM been created…Then so many another group would create havoc wielding their guns and will make headlines so on and forth…The cycle continuum…Which is WHY a MOUSTACHE President is the answer of this woe.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Long live the MNLF, start reclaiming SABAH now!!!!

  • Filipino Atheist

    Our constitution guarantees that everyone is free to practice their own religion. That should be enough. We don’t have to kowtow everytime they want something.  

  • randyaltarejos

    Am sure the majority Christians will not be sold to the idea of replacing ARMM and putting the Bangsamoro State in its place. Has our negotiators forgotten that there are more Christians than the Muslims in Mindanao? What do the Christians say in this proposed agreement? That is something that needs to be decided by the people in a referendum.What about if the agreement fails to materialize?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q44WFP7HTON4ZBYFABS6FEPEBI diemhang

    parang gusto nilang ipalabas na ang mindanao island ay majority muslims ang naninirahan, lol 

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Used to be that way, until the colonizing Christians came along. Kung inagaw ba naman ang ancestral domain mo sayo, hindi ka ba papalag? 

      • NinjaMan

        ganyan rin sabi niyo sa israel nung kinuha nila yung kanilang ancestral na lupain galing sa mga palestino.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        thanks for reading up a bit before posting this. but read up some more and you’ll find out that widespread pogroms and persecutions ultimately forced the Jews to have their own homeland. otherwise, they did voluntarily leave their land thousands of years ago in search of food and other things. the Jews are just as nomadic as any desert tribe. you’re doing well so far, keep reading some more before you launch another war against the people of Muslim Mindanao.

      • NinjaMan

        they were driven out their land, you idiot.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        eh bat di mo isali ang Manila as your ancestral domain? FYI, hindi mga muslims ang nauna sa Mindanao… research more…

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Sandali, one piece at a time. We’ll get there by and by.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRTZ6LHZGZH4SASHWEDVMYF5MI Edward

        Today there are more christians in mindanao than muslims. And these christians are filipinos whose fore fathers were converted to christians by spaniards. Even manila before was a muslim kingdom should muslims also claim manila? If we follow your logic then the native americans “indians” should also do the same since they were the first people who lived in america.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        We’ll get there by and by. Time and demographics are on the side of Islam. For now, focus should be on Mindanao. As for the North American Indians, they should also reclaim their ancestral domain if they can get their act together and stop drinking themselves to death or overly rely on gaming proceeds and oil revenues. Anyway, there are more non-white babies being born everyday today (as of Jan 2012, US Census) in the US than whites. Latinos and Asians (both related to native Americans) are beginning to dominate demographically. Slowly but surely.

  • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

    We must thank our great leader PNoy for leading us in the right direction. An Islamic Bangsamoro state should be no cause for concern. After all, imperial Manila is predominantly Catholic and nobody in Muslim Mindanao protested our Catholicism. If Luzon and Visayas are free to exercise their religion and mix their faith with affairs of the state, so help me god, Muslims in Mindanao are equally entitled to do the same. The Muslims of Mindanao did not rob people of Luzon and Visayas their land and their culture. The people of Mindanao in fact suffered in the hands of Luzon and Visayan migrants. Islam came first to what is now known as the Philippine archipelago. Islam was not used to colonize the Filipino people nor to subject Filipinos into the feudal theocracy and later on hacienda economy of the Philippines. Christianity and the Catholic Church have the unique distinction of colonizing, enslaving and condemning vast majority of Filipinos to poverty. It is high time we learn to respect the aspirations and the right to self-determination of Muslim Mindanao. We’ve come this far by dint of faith and hard work. It is no time to doubt now. If not, time and demographics are on the side of Muslim Mindanao. A more prosperous Malaysia supportive of Islam does not bode well for Imperial Manila. A more assertive Islam across the world does not bode well for the insensitive and remote imperial Manila. In case we haven’t noticed, half of Southeast Asian population are Muslims. Catholicism, the colonization tool of choice, is in the minority in this part of the world. Truth be told, Catholicism doesn’t even belong in this part of the world.

    The other peaceful alternative is simple. If Luzon and Visayas want Muslim Mindanao to forget Islam, Luzon and Visayas must also eliminate all traces of Christian influence in all aspects of society. So help me god.

    • scorpio22

      Why don’t you tell Malaysia to do the same thing for their minority Christian group.

       

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        We did. But the christian minority in Malaysia also accept the fact that they were products of Britain’s colonization effort and nothing more. Not their fault, which is why they’re slowly reverting to Islam and to Allah Almighty.

        What about you scorpio22? Any plans of reverting to the religion of our forefathers who came here by balangays?

      • NinjaMan

        why don’t you revert even further. go back and worship the trees and rain and thunder. why stop at islam?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        We have. That’s why we protect and respect nature and our environment. Any profound insight on environmental protection from your end?

      • NinjaMan

        so you mean to say you’re worshipping bathala instead of allah pbuh?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        are you?

      • NinjaMan

        why should i? you’re the one who’s insisting to revert to the old gods, i’m just putting your feet in your mouth.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        You did? Moslem can’t freely convert to Christianity as they will be hunted and killed….

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Another kwento barbero.

      • NinjaMan

        isn’t it in your quran that any muslim who leaves islam to join another religion should be killed? are you telling me allah is a barber?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        wow, from war freak to clowning. and which passage might you be referring to?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Wala pa ba?

        It’s time for my prayer soon.

        Bilis na warfreak.

      • NinjaMan

        maghintay ka! nasa CR ang kopya ko ng quran, at meron pa gumagamit!
        ipagdasal mo lang na hindi niya ginawang toilet paper.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        You’re just full of hatred. Walang patutunguhan yan.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Wala pa rin?

        Mahina ka naman pala eh Jesus the Pirate Conquistador.

        Next time ulit. It’s time for my prayer na.

      • NinjaMan

        bakit kayong mga muslim pag nagdasal kayo sa templo ninyo iniiwan nyo sapatos sa labas, tapos pag uwi ninyo, mas maganda na sapatos ninyo? kaya pala pagkatapos ng dasalan nag uunahan kayo palabas, dahil nag nanakawan kayo ng sapatos.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        You’re just plain anti-Islam and anti-Muslims. There can be no peace with your way of thinking.

      • NinjaMan

        nagtatanong lang naman, totoo naman kasi yan eh.

      • NinjaMan

        yan ang reason why pag nag sa-sala (pray) ang mga muslims sa temple nila, they wear their best clothes and their worst shoes.

      • 12JEM

         Mosque, not Temple.

      • NinjaMan

        mosque, temple, simbahan, pare-pareho pa rin yan, magnanakaw pa rin mga muslim ng mga sapatos. LOL

    • NinjaMan

      you idiot, manila may be predominantly catholic, but manila doesn’t declare itself catholic. bangsamoro on the other hand is obviously a muslim state, headed by muslim leaders, following muslim laws.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Nothing wrong about being a Muslim state following the Sharia law. Our very own jurisprudence is full of judeo-christian influence, too, if you care to study it carefully. For not researching before commenting, that makes you the bigger idiot. You not only look like Jesus, you look like Jesus the Pirate Conquistador. May the lord be with you.

      • NinjaMan

        is our law called the catholic law? does our constitution explicitly state that we should follow catholic or christian law? no sir. but sharia law is muslim law. i know what i’m saying sir, do you? obviously, you don’t.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        What do we swear to in a court of law when testifying? Your shallowness is showing. But since you’re more of a pirate than a son of man, I’ll respect that.

      • NinjaMan

        ok, educate me, what do we swear in the court of law? do we say, ‘so help me jesus?’. you may think my shallowness is showing, but your lack of intelligence is glaring.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        impress me some more Jesus the Pirate Conquistador.

      • NinjaMan

        eh di pahiya ka. LOL

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        yan, warfreak mentality. kaya niyo ginagalit ang mga Muslim.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Isaganilla-Gella/100003610474613 Isaganilla Gella

        ISA KANG IMPOSTOR KAMING MGA BALIK ISLAM NAGBABASA SA BU HAY NI JESUS”TIGILAN MO ANG PAGTUTULGSA KAY JESUS(PBH)ISA KANG MANLILINLANG SA KATOTOHANAN NG ISLAM”IMPOSTOR”

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        AT KAYO PO BA ANG SUGO NI ABANG ALLAH?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        he don’t know what he’s talking… just advice him to do some research…

      • NinjaMan

        thank you Jezzrel, yes, we should advice him to do some research. LOL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        the problem is how can SC and Sharia coexist, kung sa Sharia, nahatulan ang isang nagkasala ng beheading? Pano na?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Isaganilla-Gella/100003610474613 Isaganilla Gella

        you are talking out of the concept of muslim”you are an IDIOTI”ANG MUSLIM KAMI NANINIWALA KAY HESUS”BASAHIN MO SA QURAN;19;30 Isang kang impostor nililigaw mo ang tao sa katotohanan ng ISLAM”

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        AT KAYO PO BA ANG BAGONG PROPETA?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      ” If Luzon and Visayas want Muslim Mindanao to forget Islam, Luzon and Visayas must also eliminate all traces of Christian influence in all aspects of society. – and return to the FOLD of ISLAM which is the original faith prior to the Spanish Colonization…. BTW, please don’t call it Muslim Mindanao as its not a majority religion, maybe some provinces….

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        It used to be, until the Muslims were displaced by you know who — marauding and colonizing Christians.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Majority muslims? Before, but a lot converted to Christianity, they were not displaced, they converted to Christianity, only those at the Sultanate of Sulu who are not converted and steadfast to the Islamic faith, some also converted… read your history, you can google and understand them please…reclaim SABAH now!!!!

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Now you’re revising history like Enrile. But your revisionism will not bring peace to Muslim Mindanao. How does inventing your own history help?

      • 12JEM

         Precisely, Muslim Mindanao does not mean the whole of Mindanao. It refers only to those places which are predominantly Muslim.

    • Aryong

      Islam came first in the archipelego of the philippines? May I know what history books are you reading, issued 1950’s?
      Please update your history. This is like saying there is nothing beyond milky way galaxy.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Those are the very entries of Antonio Pigafetta. Also frequently cited by Ambeth Ocampo who is a living historian. Pasensya na po to burst your little bubble of Judeo-Christian superiority complex.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/S2LLTDFDK2YBODNTIAISUTWOPA Lone

       “The Muslims of Mindanao did not rob people of Luzon and Visayas their land and their culture.The people of Mindanao in fact suffered in the hands of Luzon and Visayan migrants” –

      Perhaps you missed the part in history when the moros, sama banguinguis (mostly from sulu & zamboanga peninsula) continuously raided the islands of the Visayas and Luzon, pillaging and taking prisoners with them to be sold as slaves. Ever wondered why some historic christian churches are inside forts or had forts nearby? The church bells also act as public alarm/warning during moro raids. Google it up.
      Some of these captives bred and inter-bred with the moros. It is quite amusing when the peace agreement tried to define Bangsamoro people “those who at the time of conquest and colonization were considered
      natives or original inhabitants of Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago and
      its adjacent islands, including Palawan, and their descendants, whether
      of mixed or of full blood.”  So now how can we determine those with pure or mixed blood? In an age where the World is slowly recognizing the fact that all men are created equal, we come up with these notions of “mixed and pure blood”. The precursors of Apartheid and Segregation.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        You are right. I missed that part about the raiders. Because the raids would not have happened had these foreigners decided to stay away from here and not exploit the natives. The forts were erected not only to fend off raiders but also rebellion. It is time to respect the right of Muslim Filipinos to self-determination. You may disagree but you can choose to return to Luzon or Visayas. Or even China if that’s where your grandparents came from. In case you haven’t noticed, the Apartheid and Segragation have been around since Filipinos were forcibly converted to Christianity. Google that to fill the gaps in your understanding of history.

  • scorpio22

    This is just a confirmation that the Armed Forces of the Philippines is inadequate and incapable of defending the country.

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Had our AFP been adequate and capble of defending the country, would you rather we spend the money on bloodbath in Mindanao until they conscript you and all the able-bodied males in your family? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        gano ba kalaki ang lakas ng MILF? 12,000??? ang AFP? ilan??? Di na kailangan ang sinasabi mo!!!!

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        and yet the conflict goes on and had to come to a peaceful settlement.

      • scorpio22

        Had the AFP been adequate and capable this problem would have been solved from the beginning.

  • 12JEM

    The legal creation of a Bangsamoro is a very good step in furthering peace in the Philippines.
    Mindanao can become the next driver of growth in our country.

    Joma and Jalandoni….Do a AlHaj Murad.

    So that the Philippines will be whole.

    • caster1234

      lol @ you. keep on dreaming man.

  • $29483279

     Uniting the Moros as one group failed several times before. What will guaranty that there will be no breakaways or other non-conforming groups this time before we rejoice at this early stage?

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Are you amenable to returning the entire Mindanao to the so-called Moros and letting them have their own place in the sun?

      In the same vein, what guarantee do we have that Christians and Catholics will unite as one since independence more than 60 years ago to bring this country forward?

      Let’s demand of ourelves what we demand of the so-called Moros. Let’s be fair.

      • NinjaMan

        i think it’s only fair if we kick those moros out of philippines.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        AFP will be more than glad to accept and deploy you to Mindanao. Why don’t you sign up instead of making empty boasts here?

      • NinjaMan

        my name is already in the reserve roster. if they have need of me, then they’ll call me. you better pray to your stupid allah they don’t pick me, because i’ll cut your head and stuff it with pork.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        but . . . but . . . but why do you hate Muslims so much? what’s up with the hatred?

      • NinjaMan

        no i don’t!

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        your words betray you.

      • NinjaMan

        it doesn’t, you stupid muslim!

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Allah Almighty forgives you.

      • NinjaMan

        you’re telling allah what to do now?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        To beg him to forgive you for your anti-Islamic views. May Allah be with you. You’re full of hatred.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

        You stinking Kaffir! Islam is destined to rule the world.

        What can a Filipino Christian Pig like you do to challenge Islam? lol 

      • $29483279

         I don’t intend to sound pessimistic but You completely missed my point. What I am saying is, one of the reasons why peace in Mindanao has not been settled or achieved is because every time a peace accord is signed or about to be signed the so called breakaway group will suddenly appear undermining the peace accord. Remember Nur misuari of MNLF and the breakaway now we call MILF whom the government signrd an accord lately? Now Com kato and others dis-agreeing with newly signed peace accord with MILF.

        When will this cycle end? Please tell me.

        Headlines I am reading daily indicate that we are rejoicing too early.

        If you are a paid blogger of Malacanang you may want to tell them what I have told you.. Ok?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Sir, the palace wishes you well.

        Just to be clear, the headlines are not meant to make you rejoice. But you can rejoice at your own peril.

        The palace and the counterpart are all trying to broaden the tent to accommodate everyone. We’ll get there with more optimism and a healthy dose of mutual trust.

        Be well Sir. You’ve done your country well.

        And since you’re a serious blogger, may I humbly suggest:
        Let’s vote straight LP in 2013
        Ninoy 2.0 = Bam Aquino

      • NinjaMan

        sir, iba po yung blogger. yung blogger po yung may sariling blog. yung comments natin dito hindi po blog tawag diyan, at hindi po blogging ang tawag sa paraan ng pag post natin dito, at hindi po tayo blogger dahil nag po-post lang tayo ng comments dito. sana po matutunan mo yan.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        nabanggit mo na rin yan kay panch hijo. napahanga mo kami ni panch sa iyong dalawang terminolohiyang yan. ipagdadasal ko ulit mamaya ang iyong kaluluwa. sana di ka tuluyang masiraan ng bait. Naway iligtas ka ni Abang Allah sa kabaliwan.

      • $29483279

         Sorry I am not voting Villar and Madrigal. Will vote Gordon from UNA and an independent candidate..

        I am not rejoicing reading the alleged success in the peace talk with the MILF. I just don’t want to be frustrated again.

        Tell your LP Party not  to be too anxious to bring the good news too early like this peace agreement as people are now starting to read headlines like this with reservations. Let’s hope this reservation will not turn into plain doubts just because you want to please them.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Thank you for planning to vote for 10 out 12 LP senatorial candidates. Given more time, we hope you will reconsider and come around to liking Cynthia and Jamby. Please rest assured that the LP will be more judicious in releasing good news in the future. Finally, thank you for keeping the faith and giving LP the chance to make this a better country.

      • $29483279

         Sorry my decision to vote for candidates is not based on liking but on a more relevant reasons. I don’t vote for a non-achiever and a product of dynasty.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QZZKXPEA67I7HELEIYM35QVYFA Jon

    Sure, give it all way.
    First the Spratlys, now Mindanao.
    “Nobody cares about it anyway”, Trillanes said on the behest of his boss.
    Last I heard, treason is an impeachable offense.

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Hopelessness. That’ what you get for not embracing our great leader PNoy. Maglupasay ka dyan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D4LZOLAZOYHKHXMQYQEHAFAMLA ADRIAN

    Imagine how many lives are save if there is peace in Mindanao. Our troops do not need to kill or be killed instead they can live life fully and go home with their family safe and sound. This government is doing the best they can for us 90 million plus Filipinos.. this is the time to unite as one. Lets start with peace!

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Thanks be to Allah Almighty and to our great leader PNoy.

    • NinjaMan

      how can this be uniting? they are separating, and taking a big piece of land with them.

  • Stuubs

    MILF was a dying cause for the muslims untill PNOY resuscitated it and lifted it up like a new born baby! The muslims itself got tired of these group of their intimidations and lawlessness and they just show support out of fear. If PNOY had just left them alone at their camp in the jungle it might just die there a natural death ! Not only PNOY given a new lease of life to MILF he also resurrected the soul of the long dead MNLF !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZZ23VSZQUI4NXT34GPOMRLMHJ4 Rod

      that is undeniably true. however, we must look beyond the horizon. in the future, muslim groups will always aspire to be given a voice, as they are a marginalized sector of the Philippine society. kahit ilang beses pa mamatay yang mga grupo, may uusbong at uusbong ulit para pumalit, iba-iba man ang leader nila.

      the government is sending a message, that peace can be possible. once we give our muslim brothers a voice and equal place in society, kahit mag away away tayo, peaceful na lang yan kasi may VOICE na sila. 

      pag walang boses, armas ang gagamitin nila. and the cycle of DEATH and hatred starts all over again.

  • rudy_boy

    IT’S
    TIME  TO MOVE ON…

    LET’S GIVE PEACE  A CHANCE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEV46IRGCUEWBFDHWIZELXCEHE Tilapiadulas

       Iisa lang ang armed forces ng pilipinas walang peace na mangyayari hangat may baril at bala ang mga rebelde na yan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Walang peace peace diyan kasi sila mismo ayaw ng peace.. Secession ang susunod niyan… saka alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng BANGSA???

  • disqusted0fu

    constitutional amendment is needed for peace agreement to work. amendment of the constitution, amendment of the administration then a parliamentary government might be the best solution. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Sayang, kung di lang sana napatalsik si Erap, malamang di mangyayari ang ganito kasi naover run na lahat ang mga kampo ng  MILF… ngayon di lang kampo ang mamamayagpag, malaking bahagi na ng mindanao….

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Aba, baka naman palawakin ng MILF ang kanilang guerrilla tactics sa urban areas.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        bakit takot ka?

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        para sa kapayapaan kasi kami. pero may hangganan din ang pasensya ng bawat tao.

        maibalik ko naman sayo, bakit hindi ka takot?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEV46IRGCUEWBFDHWIZELXCEHE Tilapiadulas

        Nag uupgrade lang ang afp sa ngaun kapag hindi nila napaktakbo ng maayos ang hinihiling nila alam na ang mangyayari

        Sila ang gagaya sa tiger tamil ng Srilanka.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Huwag naman po sana. Pag natali ang AFP sa bakbakan, malalagot tayo ang pilipinas sa China.

  • CyberPinoy

    Dont give too much power to the muslims that may make them think that they can separate the country, they sould be disarmed first and with signed decalaration that they will NEVER aspire for a separate country. Our leaders should be careful on drafting this Bangasamoro state.

    To the Bangsamoro, please keep in mind that you are still a minority people that you should also compromise the way the majority christians comprise to make your bangsamoro state possible.  We are all brothers but you have to follow the majority of the christian Filipinos.

    Peace and prosperity for our country can be achive if we work hand in hand.

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Tyranny of the majority?

      • NinjaMan

        better than tyranny of the minority.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

        Smelly Christian Pig lol

      • NinjaMan

        may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch and that may your hands be too short to scratch it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Separate na nga eh, alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng BANGSA???

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      You matter how hard you try Islam will always prevail

      Philippines will soon become a Muslim country ❤

  • neverwint3r

    so what will happen to those weapons like in picture above, are they gonna disarm? i’m pretty sure the govt will allow them to have their own army, which at present can already outgun the afp. 
    sharia, then madrasas, pretty soon these bangsamoro schools and camps will be churning out young terrorists by the thousands.

  • tarikan

    The man of the hour is MILF. Nur Misuari’s MNLF is sour-graping at the sides and threatening to create legal trouble for the GRP. Later on the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF), the Bangsamoro Liberation Front (BLF), the Bangsamoro Islamic Federation, the Bangsamoro Islamic-Christian Federation, the Islamic-Christian Unity of Bangsamoroland and the rest of the Islamic bangsa alphabet soup will sprout to spoil the broth, believe you me.  

    • victoria_views

       …..and the Abbu Sayyafs in Sulu.

  • victoria_views

    The MNLF and MILF are like little kids SEEKING FOR ATTENTIONS. When MNLF was granted the favors it asked for, the other grumbled in the jungles and challenged the government by waging troubles in Mindanao. Now that the government has given the MILF what it demands, the MNLF is threatening.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Long live BANGSA FILIPINAS!!! NO to Mindanao dismemberment, YES to reclaim SABAH!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      You cannot stop the spread of Islam ❤

      Soon you will convert to Islam too my dear Christian Pig ;)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        I was raise as a Christian, I will die as a Christian!!!!

  • Stuubs

    Pnoy wanted this deal approved right away so that he gets the credit into his name before he leaves office ! at the expense of not only a part of  Mindanao but of the entire nation ! What a one sick motherf@#$% selfcentered animal !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/56CVFQO2AMCXSVMAQI3NZHRCME Jose Lacuadra

    I am not sure if the creation of Bangsamoro,is like  giving a similar Palistine inside Mindanoa Island which I;m sure in the future is a place where AFP anb BAFP will  going to attack each other, so none peace in that area is going to achieved as long as there are guns or armament maker.and maybe the future Headache of AFP.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Free na silang mag import at bumili ng armaments from Malaysia…

  • NinjaMan

    kung si porky pig ba mag ba-balik islam, tatanggapin kaya siya ng mga muslims?

  • Gerald Abueva

    I enjoy taking Noynoy to task but not this time. I hate to admit it but this is a step in the right direction. My late father would have approved of this. So would his fallen comrades. It is high time we respect the Muslims and uphold their right to self-determination. The conflict has gone on for too long. Congratulations to Noynoy and everyone involved in the negotiations.

  • caster1234

    the govt should prohibits the MILF of an armed forces or limits its capacity and be regulated by our AFP. If not, don’t give them anything.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Give the entire Philippines back to Muslims

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

    Nice move for Pnoy? hahahha! Good for him because he stay in LUZON. Easy to sign agreement without thinking. Nevermine only thouse people from MINDANAO will be affected! For my fellow MINDANAOAN we will see again if this will succeed.

  • general kenobi

    @ abdulsallam..Spilling the beans at this early point eh? it really shows the true color of your kind.  your rebel brothers in mindanao should have told this 40 years earlier, why spill blood and let many innocents die only to tell the future generation that you want power, land and wealth sharing?

    • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

      Peace be with you brother. It’s just rhetoric for Abdulsallam.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Dont be such a jealous Christian Pig

      Just sit back and watch us Muslims reclaim the Philippines ;)

      • general kenobi

        you have no idea…you’re a lost boy…you give Islam a bad name…go back to your sh!thole in Pakistan and mingle there with your fellow patan while chewing your naswar

  • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

    Praise be toAllah.

    I’m with you brother, but may I suggest to tone down on anti-Christian rhetoric. Might blow our cover too soon. Just a thought.

    • general kenobi

      You and your brethens always use Allah’s name in vain…Shouting praises to Allah and behind you are concealed dagges and swords.

      • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

        Sir, I hold no dagger and sword. Nothing but our holy book the Qur’an. Peace be with you brother.

  • Martin

    Philippines needs peace and the end of corruption to become a successful country,,this is a good step to the first one and the government is working on the second

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Why we not settle for 1 Bangsa (Bangsa Filipinas), 2 system (excluding monetary & foreign relations for our Muslim brothers)? Not 2 Bangsa (Bangsa Filipinas & Bangsa Moro), 2 system with no exclusion on Bangsa Moro????

    What identity will be applied to our muslim brothers after the BangsaMoro Entity is created? Are they allowed to established a separate nationality or is it bangsamoro will be there nationality?

    Where can we read the whole draft of the peace agreement? Any link please???

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Bangsamoro is a first step towards an independent Muslim state until all of Mindanao are liberated by Muslims ❤

      Next will be Visayas and finally Luzon :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        well, you better start now!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Filipino Christian Pigs have always been afraid of us Muslims thats why they always cave in to our demands lol 

    Soon all of the Philippines will belong to Islam ❤

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Only in your dreams….. Filipino Christians afraid of you? How can you say we’re always afraid….We’re not even afraid of Pigs and Dogs, unlike you….LOL…

    • Olibo

      Calling Mental Hospital or Shehar Hospital,Saudi Arabia: Your Patient Escape from detention!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DEU7VDYWEDLWONECWJ47FFNH7A Danny

       As we are a tolerant people, we gladly give you the right to express what you want, including your dream.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Give Mindanao back to Muslims ❤
    Give Visayas back to Muslims ❤
    Give Luzon back to Muslims ❤

    Philippines only belongs to Islam ❤

    • Olibo

      Song composed by a failed Muslim terrorist. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      I convert mo muna ulit ang mga taong nag convert from Islam to Christianity bago mangyari ang sinasabi mo…siguro mangyayari sa susunod na 1000 years…

    • marionics

      Q: What do you do if you see five Muslims up to their waists in concrete?
      A: Pour more concrete.

  • boldyak

    “””Under the agreement, considered Bangsamoro are “those who at the time of conquest and colonization were considered natives or original inhabitants of Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago and its adjacent islands, including Palawan, and their descendants, whether of mixed or of full blood.””””….at the time of conquest and colonization, manila is ruled by muslims….almost all part of the philippines were ruled by muslims….????????????

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Philippines has always belonged to Muslims ❤

      • TON_SING_WAH

         Philippines is the Modern Israel..LOL.WE will put another jerusalem on mount apo to watch..you lol

      • Guest

        gusto ko yan Ton_Sing _Wah The Modern Israel. sa future dre, sa future to. TENGENENG Abdusallam to ah.

      • marionics

        Q: How does a Muslim get his wife pregnant?
        A: He rapes her.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      So balik Islam na tayo… yeheeyyy… Welcome BANGSAMORO… Filipino pa ba ako? O BangsaMoro na??? Reclaim SABAH now!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Islam is the Future ❤

    Kick out all Christian Pigs from the Philippines. All Muslim brothers unite! 

    • marionics

      A man walks into a bar and shouts “All Muslims are shitheads.”
      A man confronts him and says not to say that again because it’s an insult to him.
      The first man asks “Are you a Muslim”
      “No”, answers the second man, “I am a shithead.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Islam is the Best ❤

    Bomb the Rest ;)

    • marionics

      A Muslim walked into a coffee-shop with a duck under his arm. The clerk saw this and said, “Hey, what are you doing coming in here with a pig?” The Muslim answered, “This is not a pig; it’s a duck.” The clerk answered back: “I was talking to the duck!”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    We ❤ Islamic Republic of the Philippines 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      YEHEY, tagumapay ka Abdusallam….welcome back Islamic republic of the Philippines

  • boldyak

    “Leonen emphasized that Filipino Muslims are “moderates” and do not follow harsh and ultraconservative interpretations of Sharia.”….what happens if the leaders follow the ultraconservative interprtations then??????????????????..shall we just rely on words and each interpretations of the leaders who rules?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Hindi harsh sa kanya ang pinupugutan ng ulo… LOL…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Jesus is a slave of Allah, Christians are a slave of Islam ❤

    • TON_SING_WAH

       blasphemy..from vatican BUT roman catholic will not did it anymore thers is no islam religion represent in 325 AD formulating the Nicene creed in Constantinople(turkey).and who is KHALEDIYA..is she a roman catholic nun?..in Arab land?..where mohammed?look back..ISA(JESUS) IS IN KORAN BOOK,AND IN THE BIBLE,is mohammed in the bible or any phropecy found in all scriptures?…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Christian Pigs are weaklings who easily give in to the demands of their Muslim masters ❤

  • Martin

    This “christian pig” has flagged all but one of your posts as inappropriate and abusive, Abdul, outside posters from Pakistan are welcome as long as they are not abusive

  • boldyak

    there will be another breakaway, a new peace treaty to replace the new treaty and so on…until Mindanao is not anymore a part of Philippines…itaga sa bato…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      the whole Philippines will be conquered by Islam ❤

      • TON_SING_WAH

         In your hashis dream..there is only some parts of mindanao.for autonomous..
        abdulljackol

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wong-Fei-Hong/100002527307006 Wong Fei Hong

        YOU MUST CONSULT TO PSYCHIATRIST RIGHT NOW YOUR MENTAL CONDITIONS IS NOT NORMAL DUE TO YOUR NONSENSE COMMENTS YOU ARE POSTING HERE, BETTER YOU SHUT OFF OTHER WISE SCATTERED VIGILANTES NEAR BY YOUR SIDES SHOOT YOU DOWN…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Go start beheading about 104 Million Filipinos less yourself and your group……if you can do it… start now…. don’t waste your time in front of the computer. You have a lot of people to behead….

  • internet101

    Abdusallam, mag-ingat ka sa mga sinasabi mo. baka bumalik sa yo lahat matanda na ang mundo. hindi ka panalo sa mga sinsabi mo dito. Talo Ka. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Islam is destined to conquer the Philippines and all Smelly Christian Pigs like you will be wiped out. just sit and watch Filthy Pig :)

      • internet101

        im not a pig like you! magtagalog ka. mag-iingat ka sa kinalalagyan mo ngayon. tingnan mo mga hitsura nila ng mga kaptiran mo at ganon din sayo. matanda na ang mundo. sino ang talo.  tandaan mo sinsabi ko sa yo! mag-iingat ka!!!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

        All you can do is threaten Muslims

        While we slaughter your kind like the Pigs you are on a daily basis ;)

      • general kenobi

        your kind does not know the difference…christians, muslims, sunni, shiite, you kill them, you bomb them, you destroy their future…and you promote Islam? pathetic fool.

      • internet101

        speak tagalog abdusallam!!!! sabi ko sayo hindi ako smeally pig na katulad mo. mag-iingat ka sa likod at sa harap mo lagi. ang taong katabi mo lagi ang tatraidor sayo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinsabi ko sayo. 

    • general kenobi

      muk mafi yan si abdulsallam, no racism daw pero sya yung nagsasabi nun..parang sinasabihan ka na wag kang gaganti pag sinapok kita…nasobrahan yata sa pag singhot ng kung ano ano.

  • general kenobi

    @ abdulsallam….care to share what you’ve been smoking there in pakistan?  seems like that is a strong brew…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

      Soon goodbye to Philippines

      Say Hello to Philippinestan ❤

      • general kenobi

        MUK MAFI…

      • TON_SING_WAH

         ABDU..send some for smoke in the water..HABOL BABOL..I want strawberry flavour..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Philippines go to HeII!

    Welcome to the new Islamic Republic of Philippinestan ❤

  • internet101

    speak tagalog abdusallam!!!! sabi ko sayo hindi ako smeally pig na katulad mo. mag-iingat ka sa likod at sa harap mo lagi. ang taong katabi mo lagi ang tatraidor sayo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinsabi ko sayo. ang massacre na sinasabi mo abdusallam ay mangyayari sayo. yan ang kapalaran mo! 

  • Albert Einstien

    puro kasi PROPAGANDA ang govt pati sarili nila NILOLOKO nila!

    GOVT is opening the FLOODGATE of DIVISION, TERROR & CONFUSION!

    .BANGSAMORO & as a POLITICAL ENTITY…BIRTH of a NEW STATE
    ( UNCONSTITUTIONAL in all aspect )

    UN rules & INTERNATIONALLY accepted NORMS……..REQUISITES creation of a STATE..OWN people ( muslims & those covered by land territories ) , OWN territory ( expanded under the framework ) & OWN government,,( they exercise own POWERS, they have OWN basic laws all under the new framework )
    constitutional provision regarding armm is already COMPLIED with …there is NO other PROVISION saying THAT in case of FAILURE & more FAILURES…any LUNATIC govt can JUST simply give away our territories & sovereignty away without CONSULTING the ENTIRE CITIZENRY of the REPUBLIC..they are merely JUSTIFYING their UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS..of TREASON…NOT just plain ignorance of the laws..

    WHAT is under the constitution is the creation of ARMM ( AUTONOMOUS lang ) not a CREATION of a BANGSA MORO & a POLITICAL ENTITY( new STATE ) …That is why it is UNDER the LOCAL GOVERNMENT provision lang!!..and there is NO other provision that it SUBJECT to RE-INVENTION……it is ONLY given ONCE……. if it is a FAILURE the proper thing to do is to RE-ORGANIZE its OFFICERS …NOT to create a NEW one & keep on EXPANDING it EVERY TIME there is a FAILURE of governance… until they get all the LUZVIMINDA…that is pure INSANITY…!
    after the creation of ARMM there can be NO expansion or extention …nor a RE-CREATION…..the constitution only provides for its CREATION ..not RE-CREATION or REPEATEDLY created after-failures and failures.., till it gets whole of luzon & visayas…
    NOW on the OTHER HAND , the cordillera autonomous region CAN ALSO ASK the WHOLE of LUZON…is that NOT proper?…if this govt can SURRENDER sovereignty & territory to a small bunch of REBELS who does not even control their area ( many rebel groups )  why the govt. can NOT give the SAME PRIVILEGES to christian & communist rebels in LUZON & VISAYAS…pagkatapos nyan ANO na ITSURA ng bansa…Metro manila NAG-IISA kana lang….Is this NOT a LUNATIC VISION of GOVERNANCE?!

  • internet101

    speak tagalog abdusallam!!!! sabi ko sayo hindi ako smeally pig na katulad mo. mag-iingat ka sa likod at sa harap mo lagi. ang taong katabi mo lagi ang tatraidor sayo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinsabi ko sayo. ang massacre na sinasabi mo abdusallam ay mangyayari sayo. yan ang kapalaran mo! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMM3BZ5SAKNWSIDYG3BSIOFNKY Stephen

    That’s how stupid our politicians are? They don’t think about the long term implications of their policies if they allow this group to be recognized. They are always short sighted in their plans.

  • internet101

    tingnan mo ang mga mukha ng mga kapatiran mo abdusallam at ganon ka rin. matanda na ang mundo. sino ang talo???? tatandaan mo ang mga sinsabi ko sayo. tatraidorin ka ng tao ng kaharap mo mismo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinasabi ko sayo.

    • internet101

      tatandaan mo ang sinasabi ko sayo abdusallam. hindi mali sinasabi ko sayo.  Hindi….

  • internet101

    tingnan mo ang mga mukha ng mga kapatiran mo abdusallam at ganon ka rin. matanda na ang mundo. sino ang talo???? tatandaan mo ang mga sinsabi ko sayo. tatraidorin ka ng tao ng kaharap mo mismo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinasabi ko sayo.

  • internet101

    Dapat sa mga taong ito ay pinpatay. 

    • internet101

      pumapatay sila kaya dapat silang patayin din. mali na pinapatawad!!!

  • TON_SING_WAH

    They will create their own division The shia muslim the democrat and sunni moslem republican
    lol and start chatting in its own majilis ..OMG..and start sharia law,,cutting of human parts as a punishment ,cutting head in a plaza..( BE CAUTIOUS )..marrying 4 wives lol.depriving womens rights…what a ..one of its example is this abdusallam( means house prayer)..say what he chanting..Hope the constitution of the PHIL and The BILL OF RIGHTS..will prevail..Inshalla..

    • TON_SING_WAH

       tapos ang RH BILL..LOL

  • internet101

    abdusallam, iparating mo sa mga kapatiran mo ang sinsabi ko!  “pumapatay sila kaya dapat silang patayin din. mali na pinapatawad”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ITSVYDTXSWNM7KMXXL3NVPAA Abdusallam

    Give in to Muslim demands or watch more Smelly Christian Pigs get bombed to pieces ❤

    • internet101

      Abdusallam, pumapatay sila kaya dapat silang patayin din. mali na pinapatawad!!!

    • internet101

      tatandaan mo ang mga sinsabi ko sayo. tatraidorin ka ng tao ng kaharap mo mismo. balikan mo ako kon hindi totoo sinasabi ko sayo.

    • marionics

      hala ka tawagn ko si boypalaban para gulpihin ka hahaha

  • divictes

    Sam Bacile is that you?

  • dragon27

    It is the failure to empathize, a failure to step on the shoes of the other to understand and see the others’ perspective that is the root cause of war in Mindanao and in any other place divided by religion and ideology.

    It is sad to read comments here emphasizing the difference, reiterating the stereotypes, and fomenting distrust against each other. For so long as many Filipinos think this way, our muslim brothers in Mindanao will always feel second class citizens, will always feel discriminated. This resentment that builds up ultimately is the seed for their longing to be independent, or at the very least autonomous, from the largely Christian population of the Philippines.

    We need to understand the deep seated resentments of each of the groups in Mindanao, and from this understanding we learn to forgive and change our perspectives, our biases against each other. No person is evil in his/her core. It is only then that we will have peace.

    The former peace pacts with the rebels may have been failures, but that
    should not discourage us in trying once more, again and again. We need to give peace a chance because the only permanent alternative solution left is killing, annihilating the other group just because they are different from us. Christian Germany have tried that with the Jews, Christian Serbs have attempted that to Muslim Kosovars. Irish Protestant have discriminated their Catholic countrymen, while the minority Catholic have launched terrorist attacks against Irish Protestants. Catholic Basques have done the same against their Catholic Spanish countrymen.

    The longing for independence by separatist groups and their capacity to be violent in search of such is not determined by religion or ideology. It is inherent in man.

    If we want to see peace, we need to foment tolerance and respect. The creation of the Bangsamoro is a first step to giving our Muslim brothers their self respect and dignity by allowing them to define their own governance and way of life and not imposing our own ideals and biases. After all, if the Christians were the minority, wouldn’t they want independence, or at least autonomy too?

  • internet101

    isang maling paraan para bigyan sila ng isang city sa pilipinas. mga kriminal ito. baka matulad ito sa  libya. ikakabagsak ito ng pilipinas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

    lumilikas lang dahil sa baha  dulot ng basura nyo. basura nyo n lang asikasuhin mo. paubaya mo n sa amin na mga taga mindanao ang problema..

    • internet101

      ang ugali ng muslim ay muslim hindi mababago yon kahit baligtarin ang mundo. pag binigyan sila ng isang city sa mindanao sa tingin mo yon ang sollution. pinaguusapan dito ay bansa ng pilipinas hindi lang mindanao. kriminal ang mga yan hindi na yan magbabago. sentiments na ang dadalhin nila sa mga puso at wala ng pagbabago.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

    Dont be stupid. Bangsa means people..Bangsamoro means moro people..

    • internet101

      really sinong stupid? yong nakakakita ng future? hindi stupid yong binigyan sila isang state sa pilipinas? mga kriminal mismo???? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZASJXZ2UWO2CBIUX6PXTTHSL3Y gwapings

    Tanga..Bangsa means people.

    • internet101

      alam mo ba ugali ng muslim! mga kriminal na muslim? mga muslim na may sentiments sa kapwa nila dahil sa maling paniwala nila! hindi pinaguusapan ang reliheyon dito kundi pilipinas. 

    • internet101

      napakatanga mo! hindi ka lang tanga abnormal pa!!! mag-iingat ka dyan bobo. pati pamilya nyo!

    • internet101

      napakatang mo talaga kasi hindi mo alam sinasabi mo. mga muslim lahat dyan magpapatayan lahat kayo mapag-angkin ng karapaptan kahit hindi inyo. HA bangsa means people na mamatay tao. 

    • pinakatagotago

      Bansa (Filipino), Bangsa (Malay), Bangsa (Bahasa Indonesia) all means the same thing – Nation or Land.

  • internet101

    TANGA.. Bangsa means people na MAMATAY TAO!!!

  • internet101

    TANGA.. Bangsa means people KRIMINAL!!!

  • Marcial72

    Kahit ano man ang sasabihin ng Gobyerno ni Aquino di na naniniwala ang Taong Bayan! Siempre mag plebisito sa Mindanao at matatalo itong Bangsa  Bangsa na to kasi majority ng mga tao dung ay Kristiano, siguradong mag aalburuto na naman ang MILF! Malaking gulo to!

    • internet101

      pag umupo sa pwesto si marcos nakikita ko sa future si Aquino ay makukulong yon ang kapalaran nya…

    • internet101

      malaking gulo talaga yan. ang muslim ay hindi nagbabago. kahit kelan ay hindi. 

    • TON_SING_WAH

       magagalit ang mga jews..Mindanao is a Promised land..malaking gulo to
      papasukin yan ng shia muslim para balanse..yon ang simula..ng gulo.sana naman magbago na mga naninirahan doon..para sa pamilya rin nila yan..kagandahan lang sa kanila..pede mag asawa ng apat..HAHAHAHAHA

  • Marcial72

    Hindi magtatagal at mapagtanto na ng mga Pilipino ang isang napakalaking pagkakamali ang pagiging presidente nitong si Peenoy Aquino.  Tinutulak ni Peenoy ang Pilipinas sa Civil War! 

    • internet101

      marcial72, nakikita ko rin yan. mali ang ginawa ng aquino na to. ang mga nararamdaman ng tao ngayon ay mga sensiments. hindi dapat tinutulungan. buwagin sila o patayin kasi sila ay mga kriminal.

  • rinom

    iyan ang pinamulat sa kanila kaya sila pumapatay, peace daw ang religion nila pero bakit sila ang mga suicide bomber? peace daw sila bakit kinakatay pa nila ang mga patay na sundalo? peace daw sila bakit walang katapusan ang giyera diyan. peace ba talaga o nagiipon lang ng armas para sa susunod na labanan? if they say they want peace,,, sudden destruction comes. as the bible says.

  • Albert Einstien

    We ONLY need ( TRUE BLOOD ) PATRIOTIC LEADERS!!!

    THERE’s no need for WAR or DIVISION between luzviminda & bangsamoro lands we are BLOOD BROTHERS…what we NEED is CONSOLIDATION…the UNTOLD riches ( GOD..Gold,gas, Oil & Deuterium.est..thousand trillionof $ ) of our lands is more than ENOUGH to put us… .as the most powerful & wealthiest nation on earth..especially if we produce the UNLIMITED deuterium in our philippine trench..as long as there is water in pacific ocean our riches will continually grow..our PLATES are FULL & BOUNTIFUL..it is foolish to waste it by DIVISION….ONE COUNTRY ONE VISION ONE BLOOD, ONE DESTINY!

     
    but we must RE-CLAIM SABAH first & protect SPRATLY & PANATAG territories..this will be our WATERLOO if we FAIL..powerful nations ( UK, MALAYSIA,US-CHINA/RUSSIA ) & multi-national corporations will continue & try HARD to DIVIDE us for sure..we must STAND as ONE COUNTRY, ONE PEOPLE,ONE BLOOD,  ONE VISION , ONE DESTINY!!  We will pay america their $ 20 milion plus interest..we will change the name of the Philippines to ” REPUBLIC  of LUPANG HINIRANG by constitution  ” ( the chosen land ) to erase colonization, to gain full trust & confidence of muslim brothers,  show our singularity & show the world  that we are a free nation at last!

    copy & propagate this brothers & there will be lasting PEACE & PROSPERITY!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Si BBM kaya, patriotic katulad ng dating yumaong Pres. Marcos???? GO GO BBM2016!!!!

  • LucianoChing

    What is to follow? A state within a state?As in Vatican City inside Rome,Italy? If graft and corruption will not stop here in the Philippines,we are looking forward to be absorb by the Bangsamoro in 30 years time….The Philippines will have a gov’t. of the Middle East kind…Maybe that is the gov’t. we deserve….

    • internet101

      marami akong naririnig na mga muslim mismo ang mga corrupt sa mindanao. sinusubukan na ng gobyerno ngayon na alisin ang mga corrupt. ang mga sinsabimo ay pangarap ng isang muslim.

      iisang gobyerno lang dapat. sundin ang mga batas ngayon. bakit ang mg muslim sa mindanao ay may mga sariling batas din ayaw pasakup gusto magsarili pero pilipino din sila.

    • caster1234

      hahaha.. funny ka mg-isip.. you really don’t know sa mga asal ng mga elitistang muslim d2. If mamuno sila d2 sa pilipinas hay naku kawawa tau.

      • LucianoChing

        You did not get my point…What I mean is our present gov’t.will be absorb by the Bangsamoro if TALAMAK NA GRAFT and CORRUPTION will not stop….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DEU7VDYWEDLWONECWJ47FFNH7A Danny

    Bear
    in mind folks….. Islamic Shariah Law, its treacherous lies,
    deceptions, barbarism and backwardness have no place in a society of the
    21st century. Islam’s true face had been unmasked long time ago. Every
    stratagem of Islam’s political agenda will be always confronted head on
    by modernization of all aspect of human endeavor based on truth,
    justice, liberty and freedom.

    The Islamic aspiration of world conquest will remain a dream, let it be.

    There will always bloodshed and its given. Yet the result is “Good triumphed over Evil”.

     

  • TON_SING_WAH

    I am sure abdulljackol is sunni.(bulbul(birds)restaurant.then will invite huuteen(boys) school from shia muslim  for mindanao..)) take it balance,,and jews set up businesses in mindanao..to balance the so called(BANGSAMORO)..HAPON BA YAN..???..THE PROMISE LAND BELONGS TO JEWS..bear it in your mind lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    kung ako lang masusunod ibabalik ko na lang ang Sultanate of Sulu… yung mga heirs ng Sultanate of Sulu ay mga kamaganak ng mga namumuno dyan sa Brunei, Malaysia at Indonesia. Hindi applicable ang democracy sa mga muslim, mas maganda may mamumuno sa kanilang hari or datu. Ang democracy sa mga muslim ay nauuwi sa maraming Islamist

  • TON_SING_WAH

     Leaders and Patriot watch and guard..we have 7100 plus islands..SOME claims by others and another..sad to say that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CR6HMCNHOB7KJBZ6IVQ4TTGR2E IAMfor

    Sharia Law is perfect law ever, this law is God’s law, it is not invented / created by the man. As of the present generation Sharia Law should be implemented, as we observed anywhere in this world how man act like an animal, they forgot what is the purposed of their creation, to worship Him, follow the teaching of His prophets / messengers from Adam to Jesus and Muhammad the seal of all prophets.

    • TON_SING_WAH

       sharia law based on koran..then let our government be based in the BIBLE..more horrific than KORAN is that what you want???

    • jtpa

      So honor killing will be legal?

  • TON_SING_WAH

    Some other muslim and christian live peacefully like egypt.morocco,i just want to point out
    these people religion wants always their religion above all law..that is in nature..the two faction shia and sunni cannot leave together..there is always a distrust..if muslim mindanao is sunni muslim..then shia must be there also..there comes shia moslem from all other country..this what i foresee.God forbid..hope all my filipino educated muslim friend will not take the advantage..See the effect here in the gulf..and middle east..you know what’s their thinking..OH YES MINDANAO I S OUR NOW..by the common people..here in middle east….THINKKKKKKKKK..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EWNUCOKWFMDBAKRACQ2JKW5BVU Norman

      muslim and christian live peacefully like egypt.morocco? – For your info coptic christians are being slaughtered in Egypt and that’s how a coptic christian decided to make a film about mohammad – “The Innocence of Muslims” to exposed the dark side of Islam.

      • TON_SING_WAH

         yupp why..those are coptic..not roman catholic and who filmed those scene.,.christian people..mind you that when you speak christian dosn’t mean that we the catholic christian did it..FYI..you did it you pay for it..just plain simple…muslim like that..

  • otoling

    Meron pagkaka-sakali na mangyayari dahil sa isip ng muslim na maging separatista; Iba sila, iba silang tao, iba silang yugto, iba sila – I’d say 65 percent it will happen in ten years only.

    Kung ganuon man saka na lang natin harapin para mabigyan sila ng benefit of the doubt. The doubt will be proven bigger afterwards – – – – I don’t expect anything right now.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJ6M3EEK5LGN77YOMKJHBCXF7Q jeronimo

    1 country, 1 government all Filipinos…….. no religious sect or classification. 1 country, 1 government all under 1 constitution. That is what I want for the future Filipinos, the youth and my own children. Enough of these election gimmicks and showbiz style of government.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

      pwede yan kung walang nang aapi…walang racist..hindi minamaliit ang mga taga probinsya

  • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

    Come on moderators, keep up, get rid of all posts by the troll from pakistan, filipino muslims prefer peace

  • kilabot

    islamic state is the ultimate objective. this agreement is the first step toward that end.
    notice how muslim communities have sprouted in all regions of the country. from northern luzon to southern luzon and the whole visayas, they have made their strategic presence. open your eyes, folks.

    • caster1234

      you dont understand. Many muslim flee in Mindanao and goes various part pf the Philippines because they are tired of the warlords, bandits, etc like the  ampatuans, the abus sayafs, etc.

  • TON_SING_WAH

     TO counter act this sharia law..why not our government used  what is in the BIBLE.. goodness these is somewhat the road to just like LEBANON CIVIL WAR..hope not..lets draft it carefully
    some christian in muslim country obey the muslim law..Let muslim also obey the Christian law.
    do we think they will accept those..suggestion..NEVER…

    • Pulokoy

       amen

  • ushldcallme

     Bangsamoro becoming an Islamic state ??? — put it into a plebiscite right away !!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Recover/Reclaim SABAH now!!! ehek, in my dreams pala, hanggat ang nakaupo sa poder ay katulad ni… uhum…

    No to Mindanao dismemberment, No to seccession!!!! Yes na Yes in reclaiming SABAH!!!!

    GO GO BBM2016!!!

    • marienkind

       Big breasted women 2016? I’m for it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        LOL!!!

  • Albert Einstien

    it’s for the philippines moderator…besides there is no libelous remark on it…there is also a tro on cyber libel…why the prior restraint!

  • Bugtong Uyamot

    Can the Visayas provinces/regions too declare similar to the Bangsamoro?  Why just create for the Muslims?

    • TON_SING_WAH

       you mean state or of REPUBLIC OF VISAYA?..iniisip mo ba ni mo to?.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

         Cebu Province wanted too…coz they are fed up with PHILs.

      • Bugtong Uyamot

        republic ba ang bangsamoro? basahin mo muna bago ka magcomment.

        ok sa akin if there are federal states (mindanao, visayas, luzon), so that development will be decentralized and simultaneous. hindi na kailangan maghintay sa government na nasa Maynila.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAYZCQ4KSBQRKR2LLGX5XRMXFI pepe

    Why don’t we settle all our disputes for the creation of Federal States of The Philippines?  It is better than partitioning our country one by one which is time pressure…

    • marienkind

       It only works if the fiscal distribution is sound in all states. The problem is there are far too many poor areas in the countries that will wither away from lack of support from a central government if federalism is employed.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

         Cebu is a good example… they dont depend on central govt.

        Another is DAVAO… why not a try?

    • TON_SING_WAH

       United States of the Philippines..U.S.P.?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DEU7VDYWEDLWONECWJ47FFNH7A Danny

    It is very clear as the light of the day.  Islamists will employ all kinds of deceptions, yet their efforts will always breed disappointment. They can always use intimidation and violence but Islam can no longer fool the young generations of the 21st century. History of the past would tell us that Islam is destined to fail and to be vanquished. In fact, a number of Muslims understand and know full well about this fate of Islam, that is why they are converting to Christianity and other religion in order to save themselves from the “wrath” and “horrible plaques” that will soon afflict those liars, deceivers and barbaric. In our simple way, as Christians, we are praying for our brother Muslims in Mindanao to open up there hearts and minds to the loving grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

       You forgot, most of the deceivers are the Filipino Christians…SHAME

  • regd

    Let MNLF sort it out with MILF. If they fight and cancel each other out, so be it. 
    I’m looking forward for the plebiscite.

  • marionics

    Q: What’s the definition of a virgin in England?
    A: Any female under the age of eighteen.
    Q: What’s the definition of a virgin in France?
    A: Any female under the age of sixteen.
    Q: What’s the definition of a virgin in Islam?
    A1: Any female under the age of nine.
    or
    A2: Any goat that can run faster than an Muslfim.

  • yatot

    Dapat lahat ng armed groups sa Bangsamoro tanggalin na. AFP, PNP, at regular government offices parin ang nandun. 

    • opinyonlangpo

      What’s the point if they can not interfere in internal affairs. The AFP will just  be like a free defense force to secure the Bangsamoro area.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4D3NZBXSMYDNLXRSSRUGJ437WE Uripon

    Go to mindanao and stay for a year and you may know the true situation of that place….there is a saying, ” there is no peace to the sons of ISHMAEL AND HIS ADOPTED SONS FOREVER”….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

      U can leave in mindanao without worries at home. But if u want to live in manila, u dont know when u are robbed, held-up, carnapped, etc.

  • Pulokoy

    next step state the next one a seperate country , lol 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Look at this…
    h_t_t_p_s://wwwDOTfacebookDOTcom/photo.php?fbid=10151175766389361&set=o.528587543825201&type=1&theater

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    KAHIT ANO TAWAG NILA BANGSAMORO OKEY LETS MOVE ON BASTA SA KAPAYAPAAN AT SUMUNOD SA BATAS NG REPUBLIKA NG PILIPINAS NG MATAPOS NA ANG GERA WALA RIN PANALO PILIPINO NASA LOOB NG ATAUL

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FNLDQULEP63OCH5YZG7B2L4TPQ Abdusallam

      Moros are not Filipinos. We are humans. Filipinos are Christian Pigs ;)

      • marionics

        Q: What’s the difference between a Muslim and a dead horse?A. It’s no fun beating a dead horse.

      • ngayonyan

         para kang BABOY pina iyak ni marionics LOL

    • opinyonlangpo

      NO. They are not going to follow Philippine law, they made that clear in the negotiations. It is a separate state with its own government and own sharia law – Islamic Law for an Islamic state. The nearest comparison is the commonwealth states of the British empire. That is the reason why Santiago said it needs amendment in the constitution.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chris.pnono Chris P Pnono

      hindi yan kapayapaan.tandaan mo lalong mas magulo ang  republika ng pilipinas pag.naboo na ang bansa sa moro    sa salitang bangsamoro.magiging api apihan na mga christiano na nasasakupan ng bangsamoro na yan.,,,,

  • eltee mulawin

    >>> sana bandang huli hindi maging ” GOOD INTENTION BUT BAD RESULT” tulad sa tennis game.. nag “passing shots by backhand stroke”  pero na out ang bola.
    >>>DAPAT MAY MAGHAIN NG PETITION SA KORTE SUPREMA.. KUNG ANO BA ANG TOTOO SA 1987 CONSTITUTION ..ARTICLE X, SECTION 15., PWEDE BA HINDI PWEDE AGAD PALITAN NG ANUMAN BATAS ITO, MAILABAN KUNG BAGUHIN ANG CONSTITUTION O AMENDAHAN.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DAPAT TAYONG PILIPINO NA MAARI TAYONG MAG KAISA KAHIT MAG KAKAIBA ANG RELIHIYON NATIN IPAKITA SA BUONG MUNDO NA TAYO NAG KAKAISA ANG RELIHIYON ANG DAHILAN NG DIGMAAN PARA PULIKTIKA SA PULA SA PUTI KAYA NAG KAKAGULO PAREHAS LANG PILIPINO LETS MOVE ON NA SA PAG UNLAD NG BANSA PILIPINAS

  • Pitbulldog

    Pwede ba hayaan muna nating mag-ubusan ang dalawang engots na mga grupong yan saka na natin buksan ang issue na yan?  Mas mainam, para kakaunti na lang ang kakausapin later on.  Wala akong katiwa-tiwala sa pag-iisip ng abnoy na presidenteng ito.  Minamadali lahat.  Minadali pagpapakulong kay GMA, etc kahit saliwa mga ebidensya niya.  Para ring minamadali niya ang pagiging madali ng pagpapakuilong sa kanya sa darating na panahon dahil sa mga kagaguhan niya.  BS ka talaga Aquino.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C2VAB4I5KTVDU52WWAGKKZVVOM Dennis

    No to class legislative owing to rebelious character. DAPAT AY E-FEDERALIZE NA LANG ANG PILIPINAS. After all,  may Ilocano-people (Region 1 & 2), may kapampangan-people (Pampanga and part of Zambales at Nueva Ecija), May Tagalog people (Bulacan, Metro-Manila and Tagalog Provinces-South of Metro-Manila, May Bicolano-People (Whole of Region 5, May Waray-Waray-People (Samar & Leyte), May Bisaya (Whole of Visayas) excludiing Ilongo-people (Region 6), Davao and Bukidnon Region, and Zamboanga Peninsula and Cagayan de Oro (Region 9) and Natives of Palawan including Islands of West Philippine sea or the Kalayaan Municipality as another Federal State and the Bangsa Moro state (Compose of Maguindanao, Sulo, Tawi-Tawi, Lanao-Sur, Basilan and SAbah owned by SULTAN KARIM of Sulo. So the Philippines will now change into a Federal Form of Government, rather than making BANGMORO Only which for me is good pilot project, but it is more CONSTITUTIONALLY CORRECT  and Devoid of  CLASS LEGISLATION.

    It’s constitutionally and culturally right to enact a law recognizing each and every one of our FOREBEARS CULTURES WHILE at the  same time creating a 11-FEDERAL STATE with the same organic Act with the BANGSA MORO STATE which is Consonance, subservient and follow the CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE Philippines.

    I think is is to avoid another uprising from the PLA, Ilongo Tribes, Ilocano Tribes, the Macabebe Tribes, Waray-Waray Tribes, Manobo Tribes, Ilaga of Mindanao, Sarumbanggi Tribes, Badjao Tribes, Bato at Tagbanwa Tribes, the Decendant of Datu Sulayman, Lacandula, Etc . Whether you are Moros, Kapampangan, Ilocanos, Bicolnons, Waray-Waray, Hilagaynon-we have our own lands and forebears, IT IS NOT ONLY THE MOROS and so it is this JUSTIFICATION TO ANTICIPATE ANOTHER WARDORDISM TO BE ENSHRINED NOW IN OUR CONSTITUTION for Development of the WHOLE TRIBES and not ONLY MOROS of the Philippines. After we are all now FILIPINOS (BLOOD BROTHERS-MAKAKAMUKHA) NA,  and we should be treated equally-WHETHER IT BE a peaceful loving one or  rebelious one. Thank you.  

  • jtpa

    Hay! Our government is a whimp! I will not be surprised if after mapirmahan yan, biglang kambyo ang gobyerno sabay sabing. “Ay sorry mali pala, sorry” – toinks!

    • white scorpion

      sasabihin nila  …..i lied.   ops!! parang narinig ko na yan ah.

  • magiting78

    Sa ngaun yan ang sasabihin ng mga yan, pag n buo n tong Bansangmoro malelegalize ang pag tau nila ng pulisya at pwd n rin sila bumili ng mga armas nila…gumagawa ang gobyernong ito ng adobe n ipupokpok nila s ulo nila…I do hope hnd matuloy tong kalokohan n ito, nawa may ibang paraan. kaht daanin muli s madugong labanan basta tuloy tuloy ang laban matatapos din yan.
    Problema kc sa mga nagdaang administrasyon, pag malapit n makubkob ng pamahalaan ang mga rebelde hihiling ng peace talk at itong mga hunghang n gobyerno nag papauto naman…kung natapos sana ni Erap term nya malamang wala ntong mga to…
    Abnoy lang kc tong c Chavit matapos gatungan ng gatungan c Erap s jueteng ilalaglag nya din pala.

    • Mamang Pulis

      kaya nga manong sabit

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wong-Fei-Hong/100002527307006 Wong Fei Hong

    and all ignorant racist like you are destined to be sentenced by peoples court soon…ash all stupid people like you!!!

  • 12JEM

    The most likely evolution of the envisioned Bangsamoro entity is an independent Islamic Bangsamoro. If Bangsamoro entity happens between 2016 and 2020 then we can  have separate and independent states, at the latest between 2035 and 2040.

    The better approach to the present plan, in terms of assuring an undivided Philippines, is to make the Bangsamoro a part of a Federal Philippines.

  • Albert Einstien

    BENHAM RISE new Philippine territory 250 km wide
    Despite its proximity to the archipelago, the plateau was previously not included in the territory of the Philippine Islands. On 8 April 2009 ( GMA govt.  filed the claim to UN now we owned it.. eventually our history &  after the political vendettas ….legislature might  rename the benham rise to GMA rise to give honor to its finder/claimant  .. ), the Republic of the Philippines lodged a partial territorial waters claim with the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in relation to the continental shelf in the region of Benham Rise. The UN has officially approved the claim in April 2012. The Philippines may soon be able to provide its own energy through Benham Rise, an underwater ridge to the east of Luzon which is believed to have mineral and gas deposits. The Philippines claim over Benham Rise is “very relevant” because scientific surveys indicate minerals and natural gas in the area. Solidified methane was found during mapping activities and the “probability is very high” there are oil deposits. There may be more natural gas than oil, and is considered better because it is cleaner. Benham Rise, which is bigger than Luzon, Samar, and Leyte combined, is being claimed solely by the Philippines
     
    GREATEST of them ALL- “  DEUTERIUM the Gift of Nature “

     “ the Philippines trench  has  the LARGEST DEPOSIT of  deuterium  with 868 mile 52 mile wide  “

    If we allow production even for just a portion of this natural deposit… the Philippines will already become a first world country.. what more if we produce a quarter of it…  Deuterium has several commercial and scientific uses today. It has become much more than the heavy water many countries sought after during World War II.Deuterium, a form of concentrated hydrogen, is used in the production of natural gas now utilized in Canada, America, Germany and Sweden, to provide fuel for cars, trucks , jet planes, &  deuterium fuel for fusion reactors.”Deuterium can replace gasoline, (liquefied petroleum gas), (liquefied  natural gas), Avgas, etc. in powering all types of internal combustion  engines including maybe  SPACE ships of the future & can be use in space explorations…. It does not emit pollutants or any harmful carbon monoxide and does not cause any environmental problems because it is in the water family. We can build electric nuclear plants in the middle of the URBAN cities of the world ! we will power & feed  the world  at the same time.
    Just imagine the philippines at the forefront of human evolution, science , technology & space exploration

    The GOOD news is we have UNLIMITED  deposit of it!

    • opinyonlangpo

      The BAD news is nobody is interested in deuterium thats why it is just there waiting till somebody needs it.

    • white scorpion

      i agree with you. i have read the articles way back 1987 pa. in the articles, they have proposed the different steps to be taken in extraction of the mineral; setting up of a company that will handleS transaction. of which one by one, the many item mentioned in the article is taking effect. that is the very same reason why many nation is interested in philippines….unlimited supplies of fossils fuel replacement. ….unfortunately, i lost the article.

  • Albert Einstien

    WHY is the Philippines  called the CHOSEN LAND!                ” the LAND of GOLD  ”

    Located within the Pacific Rim of Fire, the Philippine archipelago is hypothesized as having been formed 43 million years ago. Its 7,109 islands rest on top of underwater mountains formed by the outpourings of molten rocks from the earth’s interior, thus creating an ideal setting for mineral deposition. (After Wolfe, J.A., “Origin of the Philippines by Accumulation of Allochthons” in The Philippine Geologist July- September 1983 Issue, p.17)
    In the archipelago, resurgent volcanoes particularly provided access for rising gold-bearing solutions which cool to the geotherm of 300 degrees Celsius at about 400 m depth. At this point, the gold began to precipitate and epithermal gold deposits were formed over geologic time of 1.5 million years from the present time. (After Wolfe, J. A., in International Mineral Development Sourcebook, 1993)

    • opinyonlangpo

      China produce 360K kg of gold per year and Philippines at 36K kg per year. Lets hope all Filipinos will have a share of the promised gold – whereever it is. The Marcos gold is in millions of kg. but never it surfaced in the open since it is also called the Asian gold.

  • opinyonlangpo

    The deal effectively makes it an Islamic State. What is Leonen talking about? That’s why Santiago said it requires constitutional amendments. In fact they are aiming for a parliamentary form of government. Don’t fool the people. It will be governed using sharia law – Islamic Law, and like in any other Islamic states depending on crimes committed, it may apply to anyone within its jusrisdiction.

  • white scorpion

    mr leonen & sec deles can defend their works all they want. but, will you do the HALAKIRI if time proves both of you wrong. eventhough, it maybe TOOOOO late. both of yours life is already useless.

    the word “Bangsa” already had significant meaning. meaning hindi kayo nakakaintindi ng TAGALOG. both of you are TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO naive to see the consequences.

    for many past issues. i have always supported prez p-noy. eventhough i did not vote for him. BUT, i’m really CONCERN regarding this peace initiative.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

      Bangsa is not a tagalog word. Ur opinion is baseless…

      • white scorpion

        pls educate me, what does “bangsa” means? i still said, if time will prove them wrong. perhaps the negotiatorS will do the HALAKIRI……

      • Albert Einstien

        It comes from the Malay word bangsa, meaning nation or people, and the Spanish word moro, from the Spanish word for Moor, the Reconquista-period term used for Muslims.

        come to think of it…it is malaysia & milf  who wants to use the word in their compromise deal…they are just fooling the INCOMPETENT govt negotiators……it is a state & a political entity…..why would they still claim cession when the lunatic govt gave it to them in a silver platter…..

      • white scorpion

        this is the very same reason why i mistrust the peace agreement. if the motive is just to identify one group of people. the title should have included a national identity. in this case why BANGSAMORO. some insinuation can be observe.

        to my understanding. moro has a very bad meaning for our muslim brothers to be called moro. they preferred to be called muslim.

      • Julio7

        “Filipino” named was given by a Spanish Conquestadores, a submission and allegiance to the King of Spain.

        While “Moro” named was given due to subversion of its conquest.

        This means, that Filipino was a product of colonialism, while Moro is a product of anti-colonialism.

        In which named are you proud of?

      • white scorpion

        are you malaysian?  i definite know how to answer your concern.  sit tied (to the chair). i favored albert einstien item. 

  • Albert Einstien

    “ RISE my Philippines RISE “
     
    EVERY Filipino Family will be MULTI-millionaires by 2050
                           ( both muslim & christian brothers )
    your grandsons & granddaughters will be masters of the world
    NO Filipino will suffer SLAVERY in foreign land..
    PROTECT these resources with utmost PATRIOTISM…
    Why is the philippines seem to be in perpetual poverty & war?
    Why is the Philippines the perennial Target of foreign invasion?
    Why is the Philippines NOT allowed to elect an ultra-nationalist president?
    Why is the Philippines is targeted for brain-drain & intellectuals are pirated abroad?
    ANSWER : Foreign Interest/s manipulated us because PHILIPPINES is the RICHEST country in the WORLD!
    “ Literally philippines is a PARADISE in a land of GOLD..
        “ we are walking literally in a land of gold “
     Initial Lode and placer GOLD DEPOSITS  occur in most of the 73 out of 83 provinces in the Philippines.The ten provinces were not properly tested yet due to internal conflicts. The 1996 $2.1TRILLION value resource estimate based on conservative 10% ( $21 trillion total estimate ) maybe deficient and could double to $42 trillion or more of the actual resource.. . … such amount could catapult this country to first world status .. we could even buy americas $16 Trillion debt..
    That amount is even without considering the UNQUANTIFIABLE value today (maybe thousands of $ trillion ) of the resources that can be found in our new territory called the BENHAM rise a 250km wide domain which is perceived to contain very huge oil & gas deposits & the envy of world for we are the proud owner of the vast DEUTERIUM deposits with a 868 mile long  find in Philippine trench. With these resources properly tapped we are bigger than america & arabia combined.. : ..$26.3-Trillion Oil Reserves ..Country’s Untapped Deposits Mostly In Spratlys Philippines News Agency April 25, 2012,  MANILA, Philippines- The Philippines is “sitting on a mountain of gold,” with untapped hydrocarbon deposits estimated at $26.3 trillion, mostly found in the disputed Spratly chain of islands, more than enough to free the country from the shackles of poverty.

    • oh_noh

      totoo ba ito o tropa mo lang si eddie gil?

      • white scorpion

        tingin ko’y totoo. may nabasa naman akong aritcle re deuterium naman. deuterium alone is enough to catapult us into the MOOOST progressive country.
        kasi, self replenishables within 24 hrs. 

    • Yxon

      there should be paradigm and cultural shift in those area before we could attain this

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SUBUKAN LANG KUNG UUBRA ANG GANITO URI NG KAPAYAPAAN ARMM NGA SINUBUKAN BAKIT HINDI NG MATAPOS NA ANG DIGMAAN TANGGAPIN NALANG NATIN NA YANG MGA MUSLIM AY PILIPINO DIN AT KAILANGAN SUMUNOD SA BATAS NG REPUBLIKA NG PILIPINAS SERIOUS SILA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SANA LANG MAY ISANG SALITA ANG MGA KAPATID NATING MUSLIM AT MABURA SA IBANG BANSA NA SILA AY TERORISTA PARA MAG TULOY TULOY ANG PAG UNLAD NG KANILANG REHIYON IPAKITA NILA NA SILA AY IBA SA IBANG MUSLIM

  • Yxon

    please ibasura nyo ang provision sa previous ARMM where a certain percentage is allocated to  government positions even to those outside of the ARMM Region.  please check if what position are they in, regulatory bodies where there is lots of money: LTO, Customs, Immigration.  heard that this slots/position alloted to them were sold like merchandise disregarding qualification.  and that the govt has no guts to confront those personnel who are erring.

  • Froi Vincenton

    Why not just balkanize this failing nation. Give special treatment to all. Separate the Ilokanos, the Igorots, and other native/indigenous peoples, too! Oh! Give the Catholics, the Protestants and Iglesia Ni Cristo people their own separate territories, too! Why are these racist, supremacist religiots always demanding special treatment?

  • alfred sanchez

    si leonen hindi ata alam ang sharia laws, una maltreatment sa mga babae, superiority ng lalaki sa mga decisions, sa mga mana, divorce,etc, bansangmoro the next hamas at hezbolla, mga anti catholic ariba na

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

      leonen knows better than u. How bout u ? can u bring peace to mindanao…If not, Stop talking.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Stop talking as you don’t know what Mr. Sanches is talking about!!!!

      • alfred sanchez

        alam mo ba ang nangyari sa mga bansa na binigyan ng sariling islamic state? alam mo ba ang status ng mga babae sa sharia law? kilala mo ba ang mga hamas, boko haram, hezbola, at iba pang binigyan ng islamic state kung ano na sila ngayon?

      • AIMD1876

        Again, i-repost ko lang ang comment ko sa isa ring tao dito na nagmamagaling…

        “Tingin mo ba naging Head ng Peace Panel si Leonen ng basta basta lang? Pare, higit na may alam si Dean Leonen kahit sa sino man sa atin dito sa forum na to.

        Mas alam iya saan nang-galing ang “BangsaMoro”. Higit na mas alam niya ang kasaysayan ng mga hidwaang ito. As mas higit na may alam siya ano ang higit na ikakabuti para sa lahat.Tingin mo ba ginawa lang ang mga desisyong yan ng isang gabi lang?Tingin mo ba hindi yan pinagpuyatan, pinagsakripisyuhan ng bawat panig, upang maisaayos ang lahat, nang hindi naapakan ang kagustuhan ng bawat isa?
        Tingin mo ba alam mo na ang lahat?Kung alam mo na ang lahat eh sana hindi ka na nagrereklamo dito.”

        Ang sarap kasi magsalita kung wala ka sa posisyon. Kala mo kung sino ka nang magaling. pero kung ikaw kaya andun sa pusisyon ni Dean Leonen. At may mga taong naninira sayo, ano matutuwa ka ba?

      • alfred sanchez

        hindi mo sinagot ang tanong ko kung ano nangyari sa mga hamas,etc? so yung mga gumawa ng grp na yun walang alam mas marami pang alam si leonen? sagutin mo lang tanong ko dude or wala kang paki sa mga hezbolah,boko haram,etc? google mo pare para malaman mo kung ano nangyari sa mga islamic grp na ito na binigyan ng sariling state, nagtatanong lang ako nag mamagaling ba ako? sagutin mo na lang for discussion purposes

  • nelson_dalapu

    Peace deal with the Muslim minorities in the south is a good thing in itself, but the current one with the MILF deserved further scrutiny.  In particular the definition of what constitutes a Bangsamoro.  it says, “…those at that time of conquest and colonisation were considered natives or original inhabitants of Mindanao and Sulu archipelago and its adjacent islands, including Palawan, and their descendants, whether of mixed mixed or of full blood”.  

    So that basically includes the large majority of current residents/inhabitants of Mindanao, Sulu and Palawan including the so-called islands irrespective whether such inhabitants are Muslims or not.  This is a very sweeping description, they want to define the boundary to ensure that any legislation of their future autonomous legislative body will be clear cut in its reach. 

    This, for me is a big and utter sell-out.  The years of violent armed struggle by MILF comes to fruition without a bullet wasted.  They got what they asked. They always insist the the MinSuPala region is theirs.  And this administration is giving them the whole of Mindanao, Sulu and Palawan on a silver platter.  What is President Aquino thinking!  

    To excuse it by saying that it refers to “…symbolisms befitting their history…” is breathtaking in its naivety. In any negotiation if you can dictate the definition of the subject, you win.  The Muslim negotiators have outplayed the government tremendously.  The tragedy is, if the government push for this peace plan’s implementation, it will be a gloomy future for a MinSuPala inhabitant especially if you are not a Muslim.  

  • Praxidio Buenagua

    Political Identity, yes. For equal footing, no military and peace and order personnel. This should be under the national level. This is to lessen, if not eliminate, private armies.

    • AIMD1876

      Yes. Among the “Agreed Actions” of the two parties is the elimination of those “Private Parties”

  • joboni96

    siguradong may mga manggugulo pa
    give it 5 more years

    1. engage mnlf biff asg etc
    lugar at laban din nila yan

    2. rido mediation program

    3. participation of royal houses

    4. muslim oil countries investments
    for bangsa moro

    5. transparency

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

      Alam natin lahat dapat na MISMO MGA MUSLIM sa Pilipinas ay walang PAGKAKAISA o ISANG PANININDIGAN. Ang 3 pinakamalaking etnikong MUSLIM (MARANAO, MAGUINDANO at TAUSUG) ay iba ang adhikain at prisipyo. Kailan man pataasan din ang mga IYAN. Hindi sila magpapaPINONO ng kung sino mang etniko. Sigurado ako, mag AAWAY AWAY din iyan, tulad ngayon ang MNLF pumapalag na. Sa sunod niyan, balik rebelyon na naman sila. WALANG KWENTANG TAO at GINAGAMIT LANG ANG RELIGION. Kaya nga, IPAIRAL ANG PAGKA-NATIONALISMO, ITIGIL ANG BUDHIING RELIGIONALISMO AT REGIONALISMO. Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS! Ibalik ang DANGAL ng PILIPINO!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

        How sure are u???

        Before u talk, u must have a thorough understanding for all of these…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        “Ang 3 pinakamalaking etnikong MUSLIM (MARANAO, MAGUINDANO at TAUSUG) ay iba ang adhikain at prisipyo.- by Renski1970″— This is true, you don’t believe him???? Research… you need more research….then please understand properly….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

        Hindi alam ni ALEXANDER ang mga etnikong iyan. Ako ay taga ZAMBO. Alam ko kung BAKITA nabuo ang MILF (Grupong MAGUINDANAO) dahil ayaw nila sa MNLF (Grupong TAUSUG), ngayon ang BMIF (Grupong MARANAO). Tanong natin sa mga nagmamagaling, alam ba nila ang nga adhikain at mga pakay ng mga ito? NakakaTAWA! Sa ISLAM isa sila pero sa pamumuno..malabo pa sa ihi ng bagong PANGANAK. Tyo namang mga TUNAY na PILIPINO isipin mo na natin ang dapat gawin at ano ang dapat hindi banat ng banat.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Wala pang alam yang si alexander… konti pa lang… kung me nababasa man tungkol sa history natin, mababaw lang…o di kaya di maintindihan…

      • AIMD1876

        Perhaps this is a challenge for the Bangsamoro.

        Once these 3 major groups unite (which will happen eventually); we are just about to see the blooming development of a great country in the future.

        oooh, I’m getting goosebumps.

        FOR THE BANGSAMOROS!

      • AIMD1876

        There is somehow a painful truth about this.

        Totoo nagkakaroon din ng division sa mga Muslims especially sa 3 Major Ethnic groups na nabanggit. Bakit kamo? kasi sila ang 3 nangunguna at nauna na ngang nagtayo ng sarili nilang State (Sulu Sultanate, Maguindanao Sultanate at Pat a “kompong” sa Ranaw; di ako sure sa words…) ilang daang taon na ang nakaraan… Nauna pa po sa Pilipinas remind you. 

        Pero wait. Kung anuman ang nangyari sa 3 ito, hindi siya pwedeng gawing “Ultimate Judgement” natin sa mga Muslims. Ang hidwaan (kung meron pa man) sa pagitan ng tatlong grupong ito ay maituturing nating “Ethnic Traits” at maaring dulot ng kanilang kasaysayan. HINDI SIYA pwede gawing basis natin at gawing “Muslim Traits” as a whole.  Marami pang mga Ethnic Groups under the Bangsamoro Flag… Among them is the Yakans… and so far, the acting Governor of ARMM which is a Yakan is doing great in proving to the world that Muslim Leaders indeed can make a change.

        Just let them work it out. Nakatayo nga sila ng sarili nilang Sultanate dati eh, and defended it with great bravery against the colonialists… And I am pretty sure they can stand on their own now more than ever. 

      • joboni96

        give it a chance

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

      Di pa nga na-implement, u judge them. The ARMM is a govt initiated autonomy and it failed. Let the BANGSAMORO framework be implemented and then u start the talking later on.

  • RomyLitz

    This newspaper PDI said that the deadline will be on Oct. 15 for the entire nation to read and analyze the contents of the agreement. My major issues are these : First, the deadline is impractical, that means next week Monday a decision will be made, two, all equivoacal phrases or paragraphs in the agreement must be fully explained and published in all four or five major national newspapers, and three, the approval must be by plebiscite not by Aquino and the Bangsamoro only. The 95 million Filipinos must decide what to do with these 1% minority wrecking havoc to the millions of peaceful living christians in Mindanao. If these three issues are not satisfied, we will have anothre long protracted war in the south for another 4 decades. Sure !!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

       Mr. Anti-peace.

      The 95 Million willl always ask WAR coz majority are christians…

      Let the Mindanaoans decide on their own not the ENTIRE PHILIPPINES….coz they are well aware of the problem and solution…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        What if they really want secession? You still want them to decide on their own????? 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVEAIKMIMAYP253BRSQX4JCVU georgeB

        hi Mr. Tanga…The Philippine Government, as the noun speaks “Govern” the whole country..It is the move of the government leader of the Phil. to decide…not the mindanaoans alone…and it is the Philippine government’s responsibility to know the problem and the solution…so if you still insist on your regionalistic analysis, then I conclude that your brain is purely regionalistic in nature…i hope you will try to understand the word “nationalism”

      • AIMD1876

        Tingin mo, kelan pa ba naging successful ang PHIL na yan na bigyang solusyon ang Problema sa Mindanao?

        Hmmm teka, may binigay nga ba silang solusyon? 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVEAIKMIMAYP253BRSQX4JCVU georgeB

         So do you think you have the power to execute a solution better than the government?…hanggang type ka lang naman sa keyboard…

      • AIMD1876

        Hear here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6WIDHNR5MCFUFNYX55MCZJVE Alexalbert Mistisma

    Let them proceed on the FRAMEWORK. Dont count the eggs before it hatch. Dont Judge the book by its cover. LET THEM DO THE JOB FIRST. LET them find lessons of their mistakes on their OWN.

    We, MINDANAOANS, knew our history very well that SPAIN was not physically conquered the whole Mindanao. They lost the campaign in Mindanao. They used the VISAYAN Tribes to fight their own MINDANAO brothers. But they lost.

    Spain made a treaty with the MOROs and they were allowed to GARRISON in Zamboanga. A clear deception that in the International eyes SPAIN claimed that MINDANAO is part of the Territory by paper only but not in reality.

    The exodus of the VISAYA and the entry of BIG Corporations run by the MESTIZOs during Pres. Quezon, made the MOROS losing a lot of lands and became a minority.

    U.S. was well aware of the History of Mindanao. Maybe Govt right now had no Idea that there’s a backdoor meetings between the MOROs and the US.

    In my personal point of view, like for other many former christians. We saw how MINDANAO is left behind against the GOVT priority on opportunity and developments. Mindanao is contributing economic progress in the Philippines but remain the poorest region in the archipelago.

    I would rather choose Mindanao to become an Autonomy or state than administered by the Corrupt PHIL government.

    No matter Mindanao is autonomy or a state, we are supporting it. Mindanao suffered 150,000 lives to regain the identity and autonomy.

    We need to DEVELOP ourselves without depending totally in Philippines.

    JAPAN is behind us for FUTURE Developments once we attain our lands in real peace.

    I was not born in Mindanao, but our descendants are from mindanao. We strongly supported the FRAMEWORK.

    People from Mindanao no matter christians, lumads, or muslims they were called MORO. I am both a MORO and  a FILIPINO.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      eh alam mo bang ibig sabihin ng MORO? Christians and Lumads cannot be MOROS unless they are Muslims…..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      “U.S. was well aware of the History of Mindanao. Maybe Govt right now had no Idea that there’s a backdoor meetings between the MOROs and the US. Anong backdoor pinagsasabi mo diyan, hindi backdoor yon… intindihin mo maigi ang binabasa mo…. Yong treaty between Royal Sultanate of Sulu & Sabah at saka Amerika ay hindi nangyari thru backdoor talks…. legitimate talks yon…kaya nagkaroon ng treaty….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

      Ang babaw ng kaalaman mo at BATA ka pa para mag husga sa aming mga taga MINDANAO. Tama si Jezzrel, ang MORO ay MUSLIM. Maliwanag ba sa iyo o baka kailangan mo ng flashlight. Ang mga KRISTIANO o HINDI MUSLIM na LUMAD ay hindi MORO. Isa pa si Traydor ROBIN PADILLA at ang UTOL niya ay MORO na rin, dahil sabi ng mga MUSLIM anak MINDANAO daw siya na isang KAGAGOHAN sa amin. Nanay at TATAY niya ay tagaLUZON. Doon ko nasusukat ang NAKAKASUKANG pahayag ng mga MOROng ito! MASAMA at NAPAKASAMA ang kanilang ADHIKAIN. FORCE CONVERSION at PANANAKOT! Ilang  KRISTIANO na ba ang na loko nila, napakarami na! PinagMAMALAKI nila ang BALIK ISLAM..kaya ang sa akin, sugpuin ito at tapatan! ISUGOD natin ang BALIK HINDU! MAbuhay ang TUNAY

    • white scorpion

      why japan is interested in mindanao. is japan better than philippines. the japanese massacre 9 of my 10 uncles during world war II. there’s no way i’m goin to trust them now. do you honestly believe they are sincere to their words. i’m already worried regarding the secessionist motive after reading your comment. your words shows it ALL.

    • AIMD1876

      Alexalbert is right.

      Ang problema kasi sa mga taong anti sa Framework agreement na to eh napaka-judgemental… DI niyo pa nga alam ano mangayayari eh hinuhusgahan niyo na agad mga Muslim.

      Oo, marahil marami ngang nangyaring di kanais-nais nung mga nagdaaang taon, at ang pawang nakikita niyo lang ay “Kamalian ng Muslim”, “Kasalanan ng Muslim”, at “Dahil Muslim”… Naging Close minded na kasi tayo.

      Bat di natin subukan muna. Hayaan sila mga Muslim na umayon at mamuno sa sarili nila. After all, sino pa ba ang mas nakaka-alam sa ano ang mas ikakabuti sa kanila kundi sila rin. (Wooops Wag na kayo magkunwari na may alam; na mas alam niyo a kasaysayan ng mga taong ito…Mas alam nila yan mga tsong… Kaya shadap muna kayo)

      Let them work on their own. Let them stand on their own.  Kung magkamali sila, they ill learn their lessons. Kung maging matugampay sila, its for theirs to reap. Tama na ang masyado nating panghihimasok sa kanila. They have their own identity (na unique historically, compared sa ibang groups na pawang grupo lang), they have the right for self-determination.

      For the Bangsamoro Framework Agreement.

  • RomyLitz

    The Arafat-PLO in Israel, the Hezbollah in Lebanon, the IRAs in England have all signed “agreements” but to no avail. Just like the two previous agreements under Cory and El Tabako. The El Tabako was the fastest and economical by sending Misuari to expensive Japan hotels and condos with his US$ account.

    • alfred sanchez

       include hamas, boko haram, shiates, sunny, boko haram, and all the tribes in afghanistan, nigeria and other countries in africa, sila silang mga muslim nagpapatayan at the cost of their mother country

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

    ” He who seeks peace must prepare for war.”
    Tiberius Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, 4th Roman Emperor of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty.

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wong-Fei-Hong/100002527307006 Wong Fei Hong

    As we know religion is trash thing GOD is not real God is fake!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

    Wake up Freedom-loving Filipinos! We can’t be fooled by these politically-correct statements. I can sense that there is a “battle-front” in this issue that we must be wary about. Read between the lines of all relevant news reports regarding this “preliminary agreement”.

    It seems the media is portraying a different picture. It sums up that those folks from the Visayas and Luzon have caused the problems and the “oppressors” of the Muslim natives in Mindanao.

    Muslims are the aggrieved party, hence, they have all the rights in the world to insist what they want. My goodness!

    Who paid these media people? Just asking.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UF2A2LRFENDLMVFDGOOEFDT24U rafraf

    If there will be most stupid decision of the Aquino government, it is the acknowledgement of Bangsamoro Autonomy. Perhaps nobody study our culture and tradition in close up view that the Sultanate of Sulu is the right ancestral and cultural body that our government has to recognize. Bangsamoro is a secessionist and was  tag as a terrorist group,their goal is to separate Mindanao from the Republic , giving autonomy to Bangsamoro group is halfway to independence. Few has the idea how Bangsamoro existed – way back during Marcos regime has organized a Jabidah group to retake Sabah but whistleblowed by Ninoy AquinoSr., this prompted to abandon the clandestine plan and thus the massacre of young Filipino muslim supposed to make an offensive to retake Sabah from Malaysia. In return ,Malaysia cunningly convinced the Filipino Muslim  to go against Marcos and thus established Bangsamoro which likely a brainchild of Malaysia choosing Nur Misuari as the supposed founder. Malaysia funded and supplied arms to Bangsamoro until recently discovered and Malaysia poise and switched as Peace Negotiator. What a brilliant move of Malaysia to go inside and  was said  had infiltrated our economy buying corporate company like Maybank,East West bank , Channel 5 and shares to other media network to have total access of information, the National steel Corp just to scrap it perhaps to kill the idea of making our own sea defense of shipbuilding It was also suspected that nearly 30% of Philippine company is under Malaysia money.This could be the reason why Bangsamoro earned the support to lobby in the Philippine lagislature or to the president due to the volume of capital investment in the Philippines that Malaysia has pour in.I SAY IF WE GO ON AS STUPID AS THOSE WHO IS HANDLING THE BANGSAMORO AUTONOMOUS APPROVAL THERE WILL BE NO MORE FUTURE IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THE NEXT DAY THE WHOLE COUNTRY WILL BECOME BANGSAMORO TERRITORY DUE TO THE COWARD OFFICIALS AFRAID TO THE THREAT OF THIS TERRORIST GROUP.   

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Pero alam ko maraming nagsisi sa Failed Operation Merdeka, isearch mo sa You Tube… alam ko kahit si brother Nur, nagsisi rin ngayon, marami kasing oportunista noong panahon ng dating Pang. Marcos eh, kaya ayun… imbes na nareclaim na natin ang Sabah, wala pa rin…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

        i agree

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HW3K5P35WYDI2VXELBO2PGBDNE jpen55

    Secretary Deles looked at the MNLF as an opportunist rather than a genuine Fredom Fight

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HW3K5P35WYDI2VXELBO2PGBDNE jpen55

    Secretary Deles Looked at the MNLF as an opportunist rather than as genuine Freedom Fighter

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HW3K5P35WYDI2VXELBO2PGBDNE jpen55

    Both the MILF and MNLF leaders are nothing more than the worst first Muslim Senator Hadji Butu when he attached Sulu Archipelago to the Philippines.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HW3K5P35WYDI2VXELBO2PGBDNE jpen55

    In the beginning the MILF was asking for the Moon and the Stars but in the end accepted no less than a light bulb just for their own toilet.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UF2A2LRFENDLMVFDGOOEFDT24U rafraf

    THE PEOPLE OF THE  PHILIPPINES AND NATIONAL  GOVERNMENT HAS ALL THE REASON TO DOUBT THE TRUE COLOR OF BANGSAMORO WILL TO PURSUE THEIR SECESSIONIST IDEALS. THE REASON OF WHOEVER IMBUE THE PRESIDENT TO THE IDEA OF GIVING IN TO BANGSAMORO AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEM IS A BIG BIG LUNACY. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THEIR ARMED TERRORIST STYLE SECESSIONIST AMBITION TO COWARD THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND GRANT THEM AUTONOMY AND THEN INDEPENDENCE.THERE COULD BE SOME FISHY IDEA BEHIND THESE POLITICALLY SPONSORED BY THOSE WHO HAS INTEREST TO EXPLOIT MINDANAO PARTICULARLY MALAYSIA AND USA . 

    IT IS ANOTHER SAD MILESTONE THAT WE LOSE SABAH AND NOW WE WILL LOSE MINDANAO BY THE DIRTY PLOY OF ASKING FOR AUTONOMY AND THEN INDEPENDENCE. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL STOP THEIR CRAM AFTER GRANTING THEM AUTONOMY,REST ASSURED THAT THEY WILL CLAIM FOR TOTAL INDEPENDENCE AND WILL USE AGAIN THEIR TERRORIST STYLE STRUGGLE TO ATTAIN THEIR GOALS.

    • AIMD1876

      Alam niyo ba, itong mga ginagawa niyong panghuhusga, pang-aalipusta sa kakayanan ng mga Muslim ay mas nagbibigay dahilan pa upang maramdaman nila na hindi niyo nga sila gusto maging kasapi (bilang pilipino o anu pa man)… which will give the Moros the more reason to get out. sabi “Bat pa kami magpupumilit na makisiksikan sa mga Pilipino, eh sila nga mismo ayaw sa amin.” Kung ayaw niyo sa kanila, just give them freedom. Let them work on their own. Tapos.Eh kaso ayaw niyo rin eh, kasi may sarili din kayong interest sa kanila eh. oh well. Paikot-ikot lang tayo na ganito hanggat hindi natin bubuksan ang ating mga puso’t isipan sa mga panibagong bukas (naks).

      Ayusin naman natin at gamitin mga kokote natin ng may pagka-ingat…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Sino ba ang humihiwalay? Tayo bang mga kristiano????  Eh mismong ang Sultan ng Sulu & Sabah ay gustong buo ang Pilipinas kasama ang SABAH…samantalang mga Maranao(MILF), gusto humiwalay…

        A quote from the reigning Sultan of Sulu & Sabah…in replying to a comment posted by “Sabah Childrens Group”

        Reigning Sultan of Sulu – North Borneo says:
        July 17, 2011 11:05 AM
        @ SABAH CHILDREN GROUP

        DO NOT FORGET THAT I AM YOUR LORD

        Your Highness Majesty Muhammad Fuad Abdulla Kiram I, the reigning Sultan of Sulu and Sabah (North Borneo) recognized the people of North Borneo and Sulu as PHILIPPINES NATIONAL..

        The Sultanate of SULU (North Borneo, Sulu Archipelago, Part of Mindanao, Palawan and Spratlys)

        The sovereign political right (not the proprietary right) over the disputed area was given by MY Sultan’s late father, Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I, to the Philippines President Diosdado Macapagal in 1962, and later in 1969, to President Ferdinand Marcos to recover particularly Sabah (North Borneo) from Malaysia.”

        DO NOT CHANGED THE WORD OF OUR FOREFATHER.. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE SULTANATE OF SULU BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES

        Your word is a violation of my Law in our Sultanate of Sulu.. Show up Anonymous.. put your name “

        magbasa ka dito o… ayusin mo na lang ang link sa browser mo…

        h_t_t_p://betterphilsDOTblogspotDOTcom/2011/07/royal-sultanate-of-sulu-republic-of.html

      • AIMD1876

        Nagpapansin yan lang isang yan. hindi siya nagrerepresent sa buong Muslims

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

        ang tanong kasi e kung ni-re-represent nga ba ng milf ang lahat o kahit na mayoriya ng mga muslim sa mindanao. baka naman isang maliit na grupo lang ang ni-re-represent nila, and we’re giving power and authority to them over peoples and land that do not side with them.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

       ang sakit sa mata. all-caps na, sinto-sinto pa ang ingles.

  • Garote

    Leonen who do you think you are, doing things extra-constitutional without the proper consultation and referendum  mandated in the constitution. You, P-noy and all your cohorts are claiming a vast tract of land in Mindanao and are giving them for free to the a group called “Bangsamoro.” This name was a recent creation dating back in the early 1990s. There was no Bangsamoro gov’t or homeland  before 1990s. These are not indigenous people but recent creation.How could they have ancestral claims over the whole MIndanao when they were not existing as a group before 1990s.  Who are you bluffing? A few will be handsomely enriched in this fraud against the unwitting Mindanaoans. These few manipulating fraudsters will have the whole natural resources in Mindanao for themselves. And how much commission will you Leonen or Pnoy get for selling out the Filipinos, Christians and Muslims alike, if there is any?

    • AIMD1876

      Tingin mo ba naging Head ng Peace Panel si Leonen ng basta basta lang? Pare, higit na may alam si Dean Leonen kahit sa sino man sa atin dito sa forum na to.

      Mas alam iya saan nang-galing ang “BangsaMoro”. Higit na mas alam niya ang kasaysayan ng mga hidwaang ito. As mas higit na may alam siya ano ang higit na ikakabuti para sa lahat.Tingin mo ba ginawa lang ang mga desisyong yan ng isang gabi lang?Tingin mo ba hindi yan pinagpuyatan, pinagsakripisyuhan ng bawat panig, upang maisaayos ang lahat, nang hindi naapakan ang kagustuhan ng bawat isa?

      Tingin mo ba alam mo na ang lahat?Kung alam mo na ang lahat eh sana hindi ka na nagrereklamo dito.

      • Garote

        Are you serious when you said that Leonen knows what he is doing? My God, he is stirring up wholesale dissent and creating an atmosphere of conflict that will blow up into a civil war, God forbid. ‘That’s what the globalist controlled-freaks want who covet our rich natural resources in Mindanao. Leonen is just the “pinocchio” of these globalists, how could a puppet have mind of its own.

      • AIMD1876

        “Will blow up to civil war”

        Wow… manghuhula ka na rin pala?*clap clap*

      • Garote

         Are u retarded?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Really??? Kung alam niya ginagawa niya, hindi sellout ang labas ng usapin…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVEAIKMIMAYP253BRSQX4JCVU georgeB

    So many comments I’ve read below speaks the true nature of Filipinos…being regionalistic…Did MNLF or MILF or BIFF, christian, moro/muslim or whoever tried to come up with a NATIONALISTIC approach to this decade long problem?  Why not forget the religion, afterall this  what makes the country fall apart..is the Problem not clear to them that their being IDEALISTIC is the PROBLEM? that they (leaders of these organizations) are the Problem…my next question is, how come muslims in other developed countries like USA, AUSTRALIA etc etc lived peacefully without claiming a parcel of land? did discrimination created a hindrance to their progress? 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

      you can’t compare the muslims here from the muslims in amerika and australia. the muslim/moro peoples here have ancestral rights to their lands, samantalang migrants lang ang mga muslim peoples sa amerika at australia. and btw, some muslims in australia did try to push the australian government to accommodate a few laws related to muslim living, lalo na tungkol sa mga babae. of course, they didn’t get their way. the prime minister of australia simply told them that they were free to leave if they didn’t like the australian laws.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVEAIKMIMAYP253BRSQX4JCVU georgeB

        So do you think muslims in mindanao are very special? ok stick tayo sa argument mo na ancestral domain… do you consider the percentage of other non-muslim living in mindanao? is your claim of ancestral domain and to create a new government, will go along with the rights and privileges of others? May I ask you last question, snu ang mas naunang nanirahan sa minadanao, aeta or muslim?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

        you’re taking what i said out of context. i just said that your comparing the muslims in australia and the US with the moros here (moros meaning filipino muslims, not just muslims) is off-tangent. the muslims there, whichever countries they emigrated from, are just migrants (very recent at that), and they know they have no right take over land that is not theirs and demand secession. there was no significant presence of muslims in those countries until recently. how would you feel if the koreans in baguio asked the philippine government for it? it makes no sense.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVEAIKMIMAYP253BRSQX4JCVU georgeB

         the koreans will not do, because they’re not moros…you get my point?

  • f35

    After so many soldiers’ lives wasted, government resources left to rust, military funding pocketed by scrupulous generals and their cohorts, the Philippine government dealt itself a “coup de grace” to stop the carnage on our soldiers and grant the bangsamoror what they want. Sa hinaba-haba ng panahong patayan, ang sumuko eh ang gobiyerno rin. Susmaryosep !! Kaya tayo hindi makaporma sa Tsina kasi ni hindi natin matalo ang sarili nating maliliit na problema sa sarili nating kapayapaan sa sarili nating bayan.

    • AIMD1876

      Hindi lahat ng sulusyon sa problema ng bayan ay sa bala dinadaan.

      Ikaw na rin ang nagsabi, andami nang nasayang na mga buhay dahil sa mga giyera,.. marahil panahon na nga para idaan na to sa mapayapang paraan sa pamamagitan ng ganitong pamamaraan. 

      “You can not kill fire with another fire” ika nga.

      • f35

        That’s precisely my point and I agree with you. What I was trying to say is that, dapat noon pa.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        “Hindi lahat ng sulusyon sa problema ng bayan ay sa bala dinadaan.”
        Alam mo ba ang istorya ng SRI LANKA???? Kung pano nila nagapi ang LTTE?

      • AIMD1876

        Sri Langka? Galing ba kayo dun?

        Ang ano man ang nangyari sa ibang bansa hindi palaging magiging pareho sa isa pang bansa… Hindi mo pwedeng gawing sagot sa problema ni Person A ang solusyon sa problema ni Person B. same with countries at states yan.

        Wag na kayo pumunta ng Mindanao, magSri Langka na lang tayo

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        “Hindi lahat ng sulusyon sa problema ng bayan ay sa bala dinadaan.”
        So di rin puwedeng ikumpara ang mga peace treaty sa mga ibang lugar, ireland, basque sa Spain.. Isearch mo ang SRI LANKA LTTE –

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

        oo hindi lang sa BALA sa ITAK pati!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERYK6RW4FOEBXRI57VFLDESWR4 Salvador J.

    The Philippines should have only one flag and that is the Pilipino flag we have today.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERYK6RW4FOEBXRI57VFLDESWR4 Salvador J.

    Ang tawag sa mamamayan ng Pilipinas ay Pilipino at wala ng iba pa! 

    • AIMD1876

      Kaya nga!

      Eh sino ba ang mga Pilipino?Balik tayo sa History 101

      Ang mga Pilipino ang tinaguriang mga “mamamayan” ng PIlipinas… Na naitatag noong pagdating ni Legazpi (tinawag niya ang mga isla na “las islas filipinas”)… Kung sino man sila, hindi kasali ang mga Bangsamoro

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Kasi wala pa noon ang term na BangsaMoro….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

        Dagdagan pa natin. Sino ang napasimuno sa salitang MORO. Hindi kayo! Mga Kastila din. Ang Moro ay galing sa salitang KASTILA, ganon din ang Filipino. Pumapalag pa yata itong gung gung na MOKLO na ito. Ngayon saan galing ang salitang MOKLO! Iyan itanong mo sa LOLO mo AIMD1876. 12345..tsk stk mike test!

      • Julio7

        “Filipino” named was given by a Spanish Conquestadores, a submission and allegiance to the King of Spain.

        While “Moro” named was given due to subversion of its conquest.

        This means, that Filipino was a product of colonialism, while Moro is a product of anti-colonialism.

        In which named are you proud of? 

        “Moklo” is a product of Filipino bigotry and racism.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

        ang tawag ng mga kastilang mananakop sa mga ninuno nating katutubo ay “indio.” ang mga tinawag na “filipino” noon ay ang mga kastilang ipinanganak sa mga pulo-pulo ng pilipinas. silang mga katutubong muslim na hindi mapasuko at mapasailalim ng mga kastila ay tinawag nilang “moro.” moro (“moors” sa ingles) ang itinawag sa mga muslim na galing sa hilagang aprika at gitnang silangan na sumakop sa espanya noon pa. at dahil hindi naman tuluyang napasailalim ng mga kastila o amerikano ang mga moro sa mindanao, nagkaroon sila ng identidad na hiwalay at iba sa mga indiong naging kristyano. the term “filipino” being associated with all the native subjects of the crown of spain came only a couple of hundreds years later. those who were not subjects of the spanish crown were not called filipinos. the moros remained morors, and the cordillerans remained cordillerans. as you can see, there is a social, cultural and political gap between us christian filipinos and moro filipinos that goes down hundreds of years. add to that the sentiment that some of the moros feel that they were forcefully assimilated into the the young philippine republic by the americans. throw in the present situation of the moros whose territories are the most left-behind in terms of economy, education and development. my question for everyone is how do you make the moros feel as filipino as yourself? how do you make them feel that they belong to the rest of the philippines?

  • Albert Einstien

    NO NEED to divide the country ..we have more than enough riches thousands of trillions of $ within our territories ( GOD ..Gold,gas,Oil & Deuterium..) ….ALL we NEED are true blood PATRIOTIC LEADERS not lunatics & hang the traitors first!

    If we keep on fighting & dividing our lands & people…the ARCHIPELAGO our country…will be RULED by foreign blood ( china/US/UK/ussr/arab nations/ multi-national corporation )  & we as a PEOPLE & our descendants  will become slaves instead the masters of the world…REMEMBER..we are the wealthierst country in the world in the NEAR FUTURE!

    • white scorpion

      i agree. hang the trailtors the mussolini way. actually, i’m doubtful there will be peace in mindanao after the milf and national gov’t signed peace treaty. lalabas ang ibang aspiring gusto maging leader na may ugaling mandirigma. hope i’m wrong. 

  • lukecowboy

    sa totoo lang baka mas maging maunlad pa ang mindanao after five years kung saka sakali …. manila government will left behind dahil sa mga corrupt official natin .. noon sabi ni general biazon mamumundok siya pag ang vietnam ay nauna pang umunlad sa atin ano sa tingin ninyo kabayan vietnam is becoming next tiger of asia . naiiwan na naman ang pilipinas . so mindanao now is the next lion of asia manila after 5 years bagsak na naman look sino ang mamumuno sa atin after election artista, trapo mga corrupt personality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    MILF, secession ang gusto (Sultanate of Maguindanao), pero ang Sultanate of Sulu & Sabah ay hindi secession?????

    A quote from the reigning Sultan of Sulu & Sabah…in replying to a comment posted by “Sabah Childrens Group”

    Reigning Sultan of Sulu – North Borneo says:
    July 17, 2011 11:05 AM
    @ SABAH CHILDREN GROUP
    DO NOT FORGET THAT I AM YOUR LORD
    Your Highness Majesty Muhammad Fuad Abdulla Kiram I, the reigning Sultan of Sulu and Sabah (North Borneo) recognized the people of North Borneo and Sulu as PHILIPPINES NATIONAL..

    The Sultanate of SULU (North Borneo, Sulu Archipelago, Part of Mindanao, Palawan and Spratlys)

    The sovereign political right (not the proprietary right) over the disputed area was given by MY Sultan’s late father, Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I, to the Philippines President Diosdado Macapagal in 1962, and later in 1969, to President Ferdinand Marcos to recover particularly Sabah (North Borneo) from Malaysia.

    ”DO NOT CHANGED THE WORD OF OUR FOREFATHER.. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE SULTANATE OF SULU BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES

    Your word is a violation of my Law in our Sultanate of Sulu.. Show up Anonymous.. put your name ”

    magbasa ka dito o… ayusin mo na lang ang link sa browser mo…h_t_t_p://betterphilsDOTblogspotDOTcom/2011/07/royal-sultanate-of-sulu-republic-of.html

    • AIMD1876

      I’m sorry pero Sultan Kiram is now only a Sultan by name.

      Wala na silang ginawang maayos sa mga nasasakupan nila. Even if you ask the people di na nila kilala yang mga Sultan na yan. Sorry. But they do not represent the People of Sulu and North Borneo anymore.

      The people of Sulu is hoping for great leaders who leads them by Justice and not by mere blood. Allahu Alam

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Just wait and see…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Kasali kaya ang reigning Sultan ng Sulu at Sabah sa usapin? Mukhang hindi…ay talagng hindi pala…

    Mga quotes sa baba…

    Siete Nuhr says:July 15, 2011 8:20 AMNow this map is clear for me. My birth place is under the Sultanate of Sulu..We respect the Reigning Crown His Majesty Muhammad Fuad Abdulla Kiram I and his Descendants and heirs.We are looking forward for the regain of strenght of the Sultanate so the law of our beloved Sultanate Government will prevail.The Sultanate of Sulu is an Autonomous Annex State of the Philippines. 2 nation (The Philippines & The Sultanate of Sulu) 1 Vision.. 1 dream.. United People..The Sultanate of Sulu and the Republic of the Philippines will stand as 1 Nation.
    Kabisayaan says:July 15, 2011 8:24 AMHalangdon nga Muhammad Fuad Abdulla Kiram I ug sa imong sumusunod…

    Ni yukbo kami kanimo isip pag ila sa imong kagamhanan.

    Gi tinguha namo ang pagka hiusa sa tibuok gingharian sa North Borneo ug Sulu- Palawan

    Paaboton namo ang imong pag barog aron makauban na namo pag balik ang mga Bisaya nga lumad sa North Borneo.

    Bisaya – North Borneo
    Bisaya – Visayas Philippines

    We are one.. 1 origin, 1 ancestor, 1 blood.. 1 family.. Long LIve Bisaya Philippines and Bisaya North Borneo

  • Mamang Pulis

    Totoo nga– mas traidor ang puti itlog kaysa kinalakihan ko na traidor daw

    naglalakad pusa ang kalbo, panot at ang kulot

    Tignan mo  ginawa—unti unting pinigtas pigtas na ang lupa

    para kanino?– para sa banyagang pinapalawig ang lupa nila

    para saan? RSD?

    tignan natin kung hindi rin bumundat ang mga sariling bulsa  nyan at ipaubaya sa mga pinsan at kung makakatikim ng ginhawa ang mga na ngailangan sa kanila.

    tignan natin kung makapasok sa negosyo ang hindi nya kauri

    tignan natin sa anihan at mga susunod pa

    subukan mo kalbo na ipa baba ang armas nila–kung kaya mo.

  • Mamang Pulis

    Bigyan mo ng kaunti

    abutan mo ng kamay

    susunod nyan gusto nila buong braso mo na

    pag hindi nasunod—

    away.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

    IPAIRAL ANG PAGKA-NATIONALISMO, ITIGIL ANG BUDHIING RELIGIONALISMO AT REGIONALISMO. Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS! Ibalik ang DANGAL ng PILIPINO!

  • white scorpion

    never a time that a peace talks brokered or mediate by another country will end up peaceful co-existence. it ALWAYS end up in separation. look at north and south nation of korea, vietnam; india-pakistan-bangladesh. lalong na in our case MALAYSIA. for many years na. malaysia have been ABUSING our citizen. how can they assured us they will be fair for both parties. and, our very own SABAH. the st.p.d british intentionally gave us BIG headache. the intention of these MIRON honestly is not for peace. they create confusing policy that in the future will create new problem.
       
    hope our leaders would examine the treaty ULTRA careful before signing. the word BANGSAMORO is VERY VERY disturbing.

  • Albert Einstien

    It is a MUST for us to reclaim sabah..pnoy govt will not claim it because Ninoy aquino is a friend of malaysian leaders…that is why during cory time they never claim sabah!

    Perfect Timing………….personal covenant….I will VOTE & CAMPAIGN for any SENATORIABLE who will hand in a CLAIM PETITION for SABAH to the PM of MALAYSIA ..during his visit here….for and on behalf of the FILIPINO PEOPLE…so that they will KNOW that our CLAIM for sabah is still ALIVE…. that senatoriable is DESERVING to be called senator of the REPUBLIC….salute!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/E4XMIQLZU6UB2733O4U5LSX5BA juan

    bangsamoro becoming an islamic state? sure in time it will be. and this gov’t is very naive not to see the signs up-front……..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MLURGONF7ZBJY7V2RJ4PEJIEHU Filipinos

    dili daw ta mahadlok ma Islamic state ang Mindanao.. All Christians, umpisa ng mag armas… Gibaligya na ta sa manila.

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