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Deadlock over RH bill

Senate deletes provisions on abortion, contraceptives

By |, Leila B. Salaverria


Sen. Pia Cayetano on Wednesday night moved for the deletion of an entire subsection in the Senate RH bill that Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III said could be used to effectively legalize abortion in the country. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

The Senate has removed controversial provisions that purportedly promote abortion and the use of birth control devices in a bid to break a deadlock in its version of the reproductive health (RH) bill.

Senator Jose “Jinggoy” Estrada on Thursday  said the upper chamber was evenly split 10-10 on the measure a day after contentious issues were addressed, with three senators still undecided. He disagreed with Senator Panfilo Lacson that 14 senators supported the bill in its current form.

“I will have to read it all over again, including the amendments,” Estrada said. “A lot of senators are still going to amend the provisions of the bill.”

Senator Pia Cayetano on Wednesday night moved for the deletion of an entire subsection in the Senate RH bill that Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III said could be used to effectively legalize abortion in the country.

Cayetano also moved to amend the provision including certain family planning supplies and drugs in the government’s essential list of medicines.

Both committee amendments that Cayetano introduced on the floor “to put the issue to rest and allay fears that the RH bill will promote abortion” were adopted unanimously.

Amendments

One amendment deleted the provision that said, “While this Act does not amend the penal law on abortion, the government shall ensure that all women needing care for postabortion complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, nonjudgmental and compassionate manner.”

A new subsection was inserted saying that “abortion is a criminal act in accordance with existing laws,” said Cayetano, principal author of the bill which went into the period of amendments on Wednesday night after Sotto’s series of speeches blasting the proposed measure.

“Filipinos are known to espouse a culture of kindness and empathy. We uphold the tradition of reaching out and extending genuine care and concern for our countrymen in need, more so for women who are pregnant and in need of special care,” Cayetano said.

The other amendment said that the Philippine National Drug Formulary System should be observed in including or excluding birth control supplies in the essential list of medicines “in accordance with existing practice.”

In his turno en contra speech, Sotto said providing care for women needing postabortion complications could pave the way for unscrupulous doctors and midwives to conduct abortions in the open.

In the House of Representatives, lawmakers said they would attempt to discuss with representatives of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) their objections to its version of the RH bill, which is also in the period of amendments.

No party position

House leaders said that President Benigno Aquino was watching developments on the measure and could intervene again, as he did last month to end debates after 12 years and move the measure to its second stage.

In his State of the Nation Address in July, the President pushed for the immediate passage of the  measure regarded as an essential component of his economic development program.

Cavite Representative Joseph Abaya said the ruling Liberal Party had not talked about a common position on the issue, and even the President was being prudent.

“This is not like the impeachment,” said the party’s secretary general, referring to the swift vote in December in the lower house that led to the ouster of then Chief Justice Renato Corona. “There are certain other non-political issues involved so he has been very careful,” Abaya said in a press briefing.

Abaya also said both sides were hopeful that a proposed working group, which would possibly include Catholic bishops and opponents and supporters of the bill, would produce results.

With positive results, an intervention from the President may be unnecessary, he added.

Aquino as arbiter

House Majority Leader Neptali Gonzales II said it was difficult for the President to issue marching orders because opposition to the bill also concerned religious belief.

While Congress wants to maintain its independence, an issue that has split the House right down the middle is difficult to resolve and may need the President as an “arbiter,” Gonzales said.

“We will always be extending our hands of compromise,” Gonzales said when asked about the reported rejection by the bishops of the proposed technical working group.

Lawmakers intend to take advantage of the two-week break after budget deliberations and before the House resumes sessions to discuss issues in the panel.

They would present a compromise version of the bill, in which the distribution of contraceptives would be limited to the poorest of the poor, who could not afford these.

“It will give us the opportunity to hear the side of the bishops. After all, if it would be okay with them, maybe they would be able to convince House members who are stricter than the bishops to agree to the bill,” Gonzales said.

Originally posted at 09:37 pm | Thursday, September 06, 2012


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  • superpilipinas

    Yup, as I said many times already….drop any and all of the contraceptives part and RH bill will pass faster than your eye can blink.

    Now regarding including the statement that post abortion patients should be taken care of. That is redundant.All patients, including those who had an abortion, should receive all the care their need by default. So there is no need to state that.

    Without that statement, the result will be the same…that all patients, including those who had an abortion, will be taken care of.

    Now if that abortion statement is included, Sotto is right, it may encourage abortion because it will seem to provide some guarantee to people planning to have abortion. (“Sige kakayudin na kita at gilingin na natin yan, pag nagka kumplikasyon ka aalagaan ka naman ng gubyerno!)

    Therefore that statement should be removed so no one is falsely encouraged and yet if ever someone does undergo illegal abortion, by default she is entitled hospital care.

    What should be included is to penalize any health care professional who discriminate against, harass, or treat with disrespect, any woman with reproductive health problems or complications, whatever it may be. Now abortion is not stated specifically but it is included since there is no exception.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      A.) There is no valid economic or social argument for dropping the contraceptives part, only baseless paranoia and the objections of some old men in Rome based off one interpretation of a book written 2000 years ago.  OH, and based off your posts, your greed.

      B.) It won’t pass if the contraceptives part is removed, because then the CBCP moves on to complaining about mandatory sex ed.  So you’re pretty much wrong in every way possible.

      C.) It’s amazing that you lot (and the CBCP) still respect and give credibility to Sotto.  It speaks volumes as to your character.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

        matulog na!

      • superpilipinas

        Yup no valid economic or social argument. But its common sense why contraceptives should be dropped.

        Why would you pay for someone else who itches and can’t wait to fffck. If he wants to fffck, then its common sense to let him pay for himself. It’s also common sense and fair that if he does not have the money to buy contraceptives to fffck, he should control himself and wait. Why let others pay just because he can’t wait?

        2000 years ago? Oh so you’re one of those who bark “Padre Damaso” since you can’t find a better argument than unearthing the irrelevant past. You might as well justify hating the Germans because of Hitler and the Americans because of Black Slavery in the forgotten ages. Worthless argument. If you read more then you might learn and have a better argumnet. Heard of Vatican II and Humanae Vitae? Clearly you have not.
         
        Pretty much wrong? He-he-he. Where did your read that CBCP is against? You lost the context. The CBCP is against when sex ed is taught in conjunction with contraceptives and enables pre-marital and extra-marital sex. CBCP is not against if it is taught around human anatomy and the science of human reproductive system. If sex ed is taught including the discipline to wait for the right time and for the right reason, then CBCP is all for it. But not for fffkng which is more for stray dogs and cats.

        Yes, I definitely have respect for Sotto. Again you lost the context and that one speaks volumes of your character. The context is in the specific action and the intent and not in the total person. He-he-he, I’m not his wife to know him that well. But his stand against RH and his success is awesome.

        Next applicant please. And this time read more and have better argument.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        So you admit that there are no valid socio-economic arguments against the RH bill, but still think it should be dropped because, essentially, you’re greedy and have no grasp of the economic benefits?

        Yeah, I’m not sure why I bothered with you.  The economic arguments are all over the place, take your own advice and read more, I can’t be bothered to repeat them to someone who clearly has no interest in listening.

        As for the rest of your garbage, are you disputing the fact that the CBCP, AKA the main opponent of the bill, takes it’s marching orders from the Vatican, which is a group of old men who spend all of their time interpreting a book that was written 2000 years ago?

        And for the record, I don’t dislike the CBCP because of what they did decades ago, I dislike them because of SOME of the things they’re doing NOW.  Your little comparison was amazingly dumb, and don’t seem capable of understanding the distinctions, but please do try to keep up.

        And you have respect for Sotto because, despite his being a liar, a plagiarist, and an all around terrible person, he supports ‘your’ side of the argument.  In essence, you, like the CBCP, are selling out your opinion to anyone willing to mouth a few words.  Kind of like a prostitute.

  • mangtom

    Cut the BS. Pass the RH Bill.

    • superpilipinas

      Yup, cut the BS part and the RH bill will pass. That’s what they are trying to do now.

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Yeah… and let’s make love like there is no tommorrow and let the Anti-RH pay for my mistake and pay and fund for the killing of my offspring….And we will became rich….. and  no more poverty…..

  • Noel

    There’s actually no compromise.  RH Bill supporters only give in to most if not all of the opponents’ demand courtesy of cheater Sotto.

    • superpilipinas

      He employed a very good strategy. The “cheating” became a distraction and the distraction was delaying the RH bill.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Not so much.  There is literally no change in implementation, they’ve just taken out a bit that only someone as stupid and paranoid as Sotto would think leads to abortion legalization.

      The other bit merely puts into the bill what Sen. Cayetano discussed during last year’s interpellations.  It’s amazing that the zombies on here think this somehow constitutes a win, really.

  • quirinomayer

    The measure of a real population policy that will help alleviate the economic condition of the masses and give children better chances of reaching their full potential as human beings is the intensity of the objection of Padre Damaso to it. An RH Bill that is palatable to Padre Damaso and his principals in Rome will not be worth all we have gone through in order to have it passed. It will be a worthless legislation.

    Mr. President, it’s time to forcefully intervene before Padre Damaso hijacks the RH Bill. Issue the marching orders now. Withhold the pork of those who oppose the RH Bill.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. See the use of the “Padre Damaso” term is exactly the behavior that congress is avoiding now….hotheads, name calling, radicals…in order to pass RH.

      He-he-he. So the more it is used, the more RH bill is pushed away. So it actually favors the antiRH.

      Without the pork, then those who oppose will run away from the LP led alliance and the more RH is trashed.  

      It’s inevitable, either RH is trashed in its current form or RH is passed in a very different form, without contraceptives and references to abortion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IPTZ7WGP6V57EOQ2YSJH5WBJTE yami

    it should be stated in the bill that those who need the contraceptives, will be provided by the supporters of RH-Bill…and for those who don’t want RH bill enjoy the Natural family planning…which means just and equality to all filipino people..hahah…

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Right on!!… Pro Rh Folks.  here you go….. SOLUTION OFFER…. Fight for this!!!!

    • filipinaskoh

      Then those who opposed the RH bill should shoulder the “future” expenses of families having children where they cannot properly raise like: The extra classrooms needed for the ballooning population, the conditional cash transfer for families who cannot properly  raised their children(because they’re too many), the housing for the growing population. These should increased the TAX of those anti-RHBILL. 
      Add it also on your responsibility to find jobs for them, because the government cannot in nay way meet the growing demands of employment. Just imagine in 10 years time the population increased by 14 million.  Where will you get jobs for all these people if another 10 or 15 years years there will be 15 to 20 million seeking jobs

      • superpilipinas

        It is everyones responsibility to educate people to become responsible by not fffkng around! RH promotes fffkng around.He-he-he.

    • superpilipinas

      Exactly. Let the fffkrs pay for their own fffkng.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Sen. Sotto is definitely against abortion but not rape.. ask his brother..

    Actually, the Sotto brothers have no respect for women.. the spectre of the late Ms. Pepsi Paloma will be haunting them for the rest of their lives..

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Yeah yeah… about Pepsi Paloma.. how about the present… the Orginal form of the RH bill Kills the unborn…..For sure, everybody will be held accountable as you try to check-in at Gate-O-Heaven.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_74BHLUWFMQC3GACN35LFKNPCT4 Marvelous D

        why don’t you check in first and let’s see if old st.pete let you in, you high holiness!

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Me? hahaha… I don’t think i’ll get in…..Oh well…. I’ll do my best 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ATLQFY2LD2G5GEFKCLET5SVFAM Larry

      ay sus…kay naka pirang babaye na ang mga iton baga la ngani bado, anak didi…anak didto..! si vic la, ngarani daw kon perang babaye na na tinatu-siton…….hahah!

  • spearheads

    What is clear to the people is that the RH bill has gone kaput – – – –  castrated to the max!

    • spearheads

      No matter what the pro RH bill proponents say, it’s already a significant victory for the anti RH and the people.

      He hep hurrah!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        which victory hahah?!

      • superpilipinas

        I can’t really celebrate with  8,000 people affected with Denge and 500 dead for the first half of this year. DOH admitted it has failed.

        This is the cost of putting priority on RH over other deadly problems.

        Instead of RH, PNoy, DOH, and the government should have worked on this.

    • rtsantos2012

      I agree with you that the RH Bill is just a piece of paper now with no significant change to control the over population of the country. I guess we are not dying fast enough hence the increase in the population. By the way, that was Sotto’s ridiculous position and lopsided mentality. The CBCP and their corrupt and not so holy master in the Vatican must be celebrating right now with a smile from ear to ear together with our noodle spine politicians.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Not really.  They’re just changing the language, in effect the bill is still exactly the same with regards to condoms, sex ed, etc.

      • superpilipinas

        He-he-he. Read the first paragraph of this news.

        Anyway some people can’t read what they don’t want to read even if it’s right in front of their eyes. (baka far-sighted?)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Kindly look up what ‘purportedly’ means.

        The deleted bits were parts that Sotto THOUGHT encouraged abortion (and given how stupid he’s shown he is, I’m surprised ANYONE is still listening to him).  In practice, they don’t affect the bill AT ALL.

    • superpilipinas

      Yes. But that’s predictable. Otherwise, the proRH people will have to wait another 14 years after already waiting for 14 years.

      Dropped abortion references and contraceptives are definitely the step in the right direction.

  • patriotic_act

    Pass a revised and strict “Responsible Parenthood Bill” as “parent bill” than the main RH..

    Discipline is what we need.. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Given that the vast majority of the bill’s funding will go towards improving maternal healthcare, that is a dumb suggestion.

      • patriotic_act

        its better than giving dumb replies

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RXZ5XENTQSFR6HPWMLEUG3TGGY Kerby

    Paubos ng paubos ang pangil ng RH Bill na to. Dinelete ung isang buong subsection nakanamputs… 
    Kulang na lang ipasa nilang Blank page

  • spearheads

    As the days go by, the hard truth is revealed in Congress and the manufactured survey results are proven misleading. I was amazed that Majority Floor Leader Gonzalez was forced to reveal that it’s very hard to pass the RH bill in the House because the problem itself lies with the ruling LP who are divided on this issue. He cited that no less than three top House leaders are anti RH. Abaya himself, the Chariman of Apprioriations Committee and new DOTC Secretary is anti RH proponent. He laments the fact that the opposition became “amused spectators” watching the LP debate among themselves. Belmonte already said that if they cannot reach a compromise then they have to put the RH bill in the back burner since they have to tackle the budget. I told you before pro RH bill proponents, “RH bill is gone, kaput, dead and destined to be archive.” Ang titigas lang ng ulo ninyo at si Sotto ang inyong pinagdidiskitahan. If the House fails to pass the RH bill then the corresponding bill in the Senate will be an exercise in futility since the power to appropriate comes from the House, got it dudes?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      you wish hahah! RH BILL is bound to become a law because majority of the filipinos support it. :)

      • superpilipinas

        Is that why after 14 years, nasa basura pa rin?

      • spearheads

        Wish mo lang papasa na yang “Parent bill” dahil maraming magugulang sa Kongreso at Palasyo. Ayon yong Balay at Samar naggugulangan sa DILG. Sabi no Roxas tanggal na daw si Puno dahil co terminhus, sabi naman ni Ochoa Usec pa rin si Puno ng Grasya dahil sanggang dikit ni PNoy. Hayan, ang katibayan na  maraming “Parent” sa Palasyo mismo kaya ipasa na yang “Parent bill.” Pero nagiiyak na si Rep. Gonzalez bakit kaya? Patulong kayo kay Vicky Morales ng “Wish Ko Lang” at baka sakaling matuloy ang pangarap mo Joe de Monggo.

  • $29897073

    Be Strong Pia! we’re behind you! huwag pansinin si Enrile. Everybody knows who is he. He dance with GMA, with Erap, Eith Tabako and he is trying with Pnoy but no no no. Pnoy will put him in his place- for sure there will be demarcation line.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    A.) As long as the bill isn’t watered down, fine.  Those bits Sotto (why are we still listening to him again?) objected to aren’t actually going to lead to abortion legalization, but whatever.

    B.) There is no point negotiating with the CBCP.  They are in no way rational at this point.

    • spearheads

      Alam mo Joe de Monggo ang meaning talaga ng RH Bill ay Raging Hiormone Bill. Kaya para lang yan sa mga nyakis na gaya mo na di makakapigil sa kati at gusto pa na ang gobyerno ang mananagot sa kati mo. Para makatulong ka sa Pilipinas, isangkalan mo na lang yan sa pintuan mo sabay sara. Tipid na, di pa delikadong makakabuntis ka ng disoras, kuha mo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

        Jesus reached out to sinners including prostitutes.  He did not condemn them. But you bishop reached out to Gloria for mitsubishi and glorified her

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Yung mga tao katulad mo, halatang wala talagang naiintindihan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XNBUUMFGHLCZQMA2UV7YPTKKX4 Margie

    Pass the RH bill! It is good for the squatters.

  • TMZPinoy

    Only in the Philippines na naman ito. Mga walang paninindigan na mga senatong…Pia Cayetano bakit po kayo sumusuko sa batas na pinapasa ninyo sa senado eh puro pangongopya lang alam ng mga yan. Itigil na lang ninyo yan RH bill kung wala naman pala kayong sariling paninindigan sa bayan. MGA HUDAS KAYONG LAHAT.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    that’s the best way to trick these bigot idiots, change the words of the provisions lol! nice :D

  • muddygoose

    Loser.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Prelude to a war and bear arms…..

  • filipinaskoh

    “While this Act does not amend the penal law on abortion, the government shall ensure that all women needing care for postabortion complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, nonjudgmental and compassionate manner.” DELETED

    RH bill wasn’t  enacted and yet there are many who committed abortion, the complications always leads to death because abortion are done in cheap clinics with  cheap midwives, fake doctors or quack doctors. These women who committed abortion are either hopeless, not prepared to face motherhood or they are in a sex trade business. They are the ones who need counseling and medical assistance.

    “Providing care for women needing postabortion complications could pave the way for unscrupulous doctors and midwives to conduct abortions in the open” SOTTO

    We have a law that penalized abortion and those performing it, abortion is illegal in our country, how could Sotto’s claim paving the way for abortion could possibly happen? These women who committed abortion are confused they need care, assistance and guidance counseling. If RH bill will be passed few who will commit abortion, so Sotto’s claim is quite absurd.

    • Andre Mitchell

      All that delay and grandstanding for just some dumb revision.

      Typical pinoy way of doing things, sadly.

    • superpilipinas

      Yes better deleted. Women should be given care for any complication regardless if its abortion or not.

      Specifying abortion is redundant. It even enables illegal abortion providers to justify abortion…”O sige na kayurin na natin at gilingin, pag may kumplikasyon, sorry ka na lang, pero sabi sa RH pwede ka naman tumakbo sa ospital”  

      • filipinaskoh

        That’s the problem you cannot stop abortion, with or without RH bill meron at meron mag-co-commit ng abortion although it will be reduced because of contraceptives. I have seen two women died in our squatters neighborhood because of abortion they were not able to go to hospital because they don’t have money they just died just like that, the parents does’t even know they committed abortion only upon their death.

      • superpilipinas

        The RH bill should instead state that Health workers and professionals and institutions shall be penalized for refusing to provide reproductive health care.

        Pre-natal care should be provided free of charge to the poor by the government.

        Then the hospitals would have cared for those 2 women regardless of whether thay had post-abortion problems or not. Because pre-natal care is free and adoption is a choice, then they don’t have to resort to abortion if for poverty reasons.

        But it should not provide any reference to contraceptives or abortion.
        Some contraceptives can prevent abortion but some can not. The worse is, it promotes irresponsible sex which those 2 women who died committed in the first place.

        Don’t commit when you know the consequences are highly risky and insurmountable. Teaching this discipline is the soution to the root cause. Teach people especially the youth to be responsible and face the consequences of their actions. Poor women with unwanted pregnancies should be adviced the option to give up for adoption.

      • suburbanmother

        Precisely the heart of the matter of this bill is EDUCATION! People need to be properly educated so they can make sound decisions. 

      • filipinaskoh

        That is exactly the purpose of RH bill is not merely on contraceptives but also on educating.  Sex education be taught in school, that will include the consequences of pre-marital sex and the risk of abortion. Health workers that will guide women on pregnancies and use of proper contraceptives. Unfortunately sex education is being barred by CBCP as if they will be taught on how to have sex and commit immorality.
        As of now hospital and other doctors would not usually accept women who committed an abortion, for those who can afford, they usually lied about it; but for the poor, without any medical insurance they cannot afford it but through RH bill they will be given assistance from the government in public hospital.

        That is what Sotto ask it to be deleted- medical care for post abortion complications.
        Those who are committing abortion-they don’t the know  risk nobody guides nor teaches them- they are confused women and hopeless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Filipino chess masters are doing well,and as well as our billiard kings…I found it more worthy news than this redundant RH Bill…

    • Mike_1974

      then you lack discernment!!! with that i pity you!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Haven’t found your senses yet …..?

    • superpilipinas

      What’s sad is that the focus on this worthless bill has disable the government from controlling other deadly problems. DOH has admitted failure to contain Dengue. 8000 people were affected for the first half of this year and 500 dead.

      Imagine if the attention and resources already given to RH was instead given to fight Dengue. I’m sure the fight will also unite us Filipinos than divide us.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Thanks…though I have just join the fracas,but at the onset,I knew very well that this RH Bill is redundant.I am old enough to remember the initial foray of Family Planning Program in our country.The obvious reason of its failure was the non compatibility to our culture,it’s not popular….most of us still hold on to our good values.
        On the other hand,It has been proven that the good folks already made a compromise,we relented to the Marcos power and we prefer not to subscribe it,..For me,I don’t totally view the contraceptives as bad,as long as the use of it is proper,ethical or necessary…but It is just beyond reason,Why keep on crunching overlapping laws without genuine assessments on effectiveness or the need to make the right adjustment just to get a pay off of what has been invested ?
        For sure,diversification is ever present but a unifying factors must be recognized first or would be leaders should put more emphasis on these.Otherwise,again its system failure.

      • superpilipinas

        Agree from that angle regarding overlapping laws. Yes, in the state we are in, we all should build on what we all agree to rather than endlessly fight on which side is right. Status Quo is the best in this case and at this time. And when we don’t have any more serious problems, then why not, let’s fight on it again.

    • jinx

      Tapos na Olympics wag na tayong magpasikat sa mga di-recognize na sports affiliated organization.  When you have a country densely populated by poor people, you’ll lose competitiveness in all areas, especially sports. Mga tao kasi imbes na varied sports libangan, paggagawa ng bata ang inaasikaso.

  • TMZPinoy

    Seguro isa ka sa mga STAFF sa senado ni “MasterCopy King SOTTO”..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    I could see that for Sen.Pia Cayetano…RH Bill became her vanity.She  became willing to compromise on any position……..?

    • superpilipinas

      Last term na niya.. It’s expected she will compromise. She has no choice. As a co-author, I think it will be a bad mark on her record if this year, RH is not passed again, in whatever form it is.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Yes I agree but look at her….parang kanta ng Bread….If a picture paint ,so and so…

      • superpilipinas

        eh sabi ko na nga me side-effect. kung natural method, glowing and cute pa rin…

  • RiverHorse

    finally!

  • innit1

    RH Bill is very clear. It does not promote abortion. when you use condom it does not kill an unborn same as ligation or vasectomy. Condom stops sperm going inside thus preventing pregnancy. Abortion does not happen here. Can Filipinos not understand that or they just do not want to understand it.

    • superpilipinas

      I don’t care what condom does and what it does not.

      But I don’t think taxpayes should pay for people who itch and can’t wait to fffck. If they want to fffck, they should pay for their itch. If they don’t have the money, they should wait for the right time. Not a single centavo should be spent for people who itch and can’t control. Ano sila sinuswerte? Ano tayo fffkng sponsors? He-he-he

      I’d rather the government spend taxpayers money to control Dengue and treat those affected. DOH has already admitted yesterday failing to control it. This first half year, 8000 affected and 500 dead. It’s not only the mosquito, but it is also the wrong priority and neglect of the government that has killed those people. Ang kanilang utak at attention, natatakpan ng condom.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ULW3TQ5LAJBDUMD32JVJAMTMFY Jojo

        Tama ka diyan superpilipinas, puede kung puede lang condom para sa lamok, balang, daga at buwaya sa Gobyerno. Para, wala ng malaria, dengue, mga sumisira sa palayan na gawa ng balang at ng daga. Saka ang isa pa napakaimportante para na rin sa mga buwaya, at ng di na dumami ang mapagsamantala at kurakot sa Gobyerno…

    • bibing2011

       di lang po condom, ligation, vaserctomy ang laman ng RH Bill.huwag mo masyadong i-simplify…

  • TuwadNaDaan

    ANG TAGAL NAMANG MAIPASA YANG BILL NA YAN….AT AKO AY NAIINIP NA…NAPAGOD NA AKO SA KATATRABAHO…MAKATULOG NA NGA…!!!

  • mangtom

    Herbert DavidCollapseWhy don’t you pass your dick idiot!Hear ye, hear ye!!! This Herbert the Pervert is at it again. He is sobrang expert sa paggamit ng four letter words. Congratulations, Herb the Perv. You will be the most popular pervert in our forum. Gold medal. No. 1 is Sotot na plagiarist, ikaw naman ay no.1 na pervert. Great combo.

  • ITT_Co_Makati

    Hindi na lang kasi i promote ang pag jajack-o-lantern. Bakit hindi nila turuan ang mga babae at lalaki ng pag jajack-o-lantern na lang. Pinaka mura, isang madilim na sulok lang ang kailangan at mga ilang piraso ng tissue at siguro isang magandang magazine na makakatulong sa imahinasiyon.

    • Briane lamp

       Galing tayo lahat dyan.
      Patungo yan sa Tuwad na Daan
      Wag mong sirain ang MORALiDAD natin.

      Romans 16:19 says , Be innocent of Evil….

      • ITT_Co_Makati

        Eh mas mabuti na mag jack-o-lantern na lang kaysa sa mangmanyak at mag rape ng iba o kaya mag ka bastardong anak na hindi lalaki sa tuwid na daan o di kayta dumami ang populasyon natin dahil madalas ang brown out sa atin. Maraming paraan ng pag jajack-o-lantern na kasing bisa rin ng real thing. Meron talagang human needs na pag dumapo kailangan mong iraos kundi masisira ang ulo mo. Sana ituro din iyan ng gobyerno.

      • superpilipinas

        Caller: Hello ITT_Co_Makati?

        Operator: Di kamutin mo! Anong gusto mo kamutin ko para sa iyo?!

        “Don’t let the government pay for your fffkng itch.”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        matagal nang sira ang moralidad natin gawa ng sobrang kahirapan dulot ng pagiging ignorante.

      • Briane lamp

         Ignorante sa buhay?

        Search youtube ….
        Bro. Villavicencio
        Part 1-9

        2nd Coming Witness, soon to be…
        Board Topnotcher na doctor nya,
        Nagpari na…

        Watch the message, please….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    No birth control devices? Like no condoms? So what’s left with RH Bill?

    • Briane lamp

       Buhay.
      Mas mahalaga ang buhay.
      Kaya, mabuhay ang Lupang Kayumanggi

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      It actually hasn’t changed at all, in practice.  They removed one bit that was just there for clarity because Sotto cried (botched abortion patients are going to be treated anyway), and the other is just changing how to decide which items are going to be subsidized by the RH Bill (which will still leave things like condom in).

      The anti-RH lot are going to claim victory, but I doubt most of them understood half the words in that article anyway.

  • DonQuixoteDeRizal

    I think the issue is not about abortion and contraceptives but rather the immaturity of the minds of the Filipinos among them are those senators and house representatives, who can’t reconcile their religious beliefs with realities on the ground.
     
    While other countries, most of them Christians, recognize the importance of family planning and planned parenthood for the well-being of their citizens, the anti-rh people of this country is so self-centered and selfish. The bill is about freedom to choice. That’s all.

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. Simply because there is already freedom of choice even without the bill!

      You want to use condom, go ahead use it. No one is preventing you. If you itch but don’t have the money, then you just have to wait for the right time. That’s the reality. Don’t ask the government to sponsor your fffkng itch. That’s unreal!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        Because what is happening, now (which is ‘Reality’)…
        Countries that do not have an RH
        are soliciting aid and charity from…
        Countries that have an RH in place.

      • Hfxwst

        Yep –  but Filipinos have no shame,  begging and asking for money is almost a profession.

        It may come soon,  but aid giving countries may soon say no if we are just continuing the problem, why would they continue to give to us?

        The Catholic Church has been a spectacular failure with their teachings, and take take no responsibility for anything.  Senators are not offering a cut in their salaries to feed the hungry children.

        Guess we are left with exporting more people so we can beg THEM to send money home. We Filipinos and good at 2 things and one of them is excuse making.

      • DonQuixoteDeRizal

        You and I can buy condoms, that is not the problem. The problem is there are husband and wife who can’t afford it so they will just say buntis-na-kung butis basta masarap eh. Ang problema bilyong-bilyo pesos ang ginagastos natin sa CCT para mabigyan ng pagkain at makapag-aral ang mga produkto ng bahala na si batman. Yong ang ibig kung sabihin ng ‘choice’, okey bata?

      • joeybg

        natumbok mo kabayan, tatahimik na siguro si tsupapilipinas na nag-aakala na siya lang ang taxpayer.

      • bibing2011

         libre po ang contraceptives ngayon.punta kalang sa health center.

        hindi na po kailangan ng RH Bill para manglibre ng contraceptives.di na kailangang gawin pang LAW.

        something fishy in RH Bill na yan….

      • superpilipinas

        Eh bakit babayaran ng taxpayer ang pasarap nila. Bayaran na lang ng taxpayer yung pag-contol ng Dengue! Di na nga makayanan ng DOH. 500 na ang patay, 8000 nagkasakit.

        Wala na ngang pera, ginastos pa sa pasarap. Eh di kalimutan na lang ang disiplina. At huwag na rin mag-condom kasi masmasarap di ba!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    and you are the most bigot among them all hahah!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    Tanga ka rin, mamatay ka na kasama ng lahat ng mga obispo lol!

  • ddano

    Why did the learned capitulated to the Ignoramuses?  Onli in da pilipins!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Please elaborate and re-phrase your statement.
      WHO is/are the ‘learned’ and who are the ‘Ignoramuses’…?

  • http://filipinobook.com/ Filipino Book

    Life prevention vs Life Suffering. If I’d be born in life where I’d have to scrape food everyday, that’d totally suck! Rather die and get it on with the next life. Hope for the best 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       THEN KILL THEM ALL>….. KILL THEM NOW.. bat kailangan pa mag antay na may Pills or COndom… PATAYIN NA ANG MGA MAGULANG… NG WALA NA SILANG MAI-ANAK

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Hanggang insulto ka lang.  Wala pa akong nakikitang post galing sa iyo na nagpapakitang kaya mo mag-isip.

  • Hey_Dudes

    It’s hard to believe 23 senators are holding millions of Filipinos by the neck while they squabble over a very important policy.  A policy that has gathered dust in congress for years and appears heading yet again to the basement for more dust.  This is your tax money at work people.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       WHO TOLD YOU ITS IMPORTANT??? hunghang

      • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

        @Anti – And who told you otherwise?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DGGE33ML7AZBQWZED7MUXXM7T4 Kalibogan

    Object ng object ang mga obispo sa RH Bill kasi wala silang pamilya.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

      wala mang silang pamilya… sila ang mas nakakafeel nung pangangailangan…. mas maami silang natutulungang mahihirap kasya sa INYO… kaysa sa gobyerno…

      • joeybg

        Walang pamilya ang mga Obispo?? nagpapatawa kayo, may mga anak sa labas karamihan ang mga yan.

  • $31701260

    no to RH bill! it will destroys our country. it will make our country old,

    • Hfxwst

      Yep –  keep pumping those cruise ship waiters and maids!  

    • ApoNiLolo

      Ano kamo? Paki ulit nga, Utoy, at medyo kasalukuyang nag aalmusal ka ata. Hindi ka ba napaalalahanan ng nanay mo na – don’t speak when your mouth is full?

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    These politicos should rise above their personal interests. Consult the bishops….why? They know better about health? The fact is, they want a version that will bring in the votes come election day. If you say they will consult about the soul and salvation, maybe I would agree. But even that will not give conclusive answers. How many religions do we have? Can you still count them?

    And it will come to pass…. this generation and the youth will decide what is best for them…. sooner or later. So esteemed senators and representatives… hear them, listen… because what you finally decide after so much time, effort and money have been spent, would just ultimately be trashed. And together with all the bishops and your angels… be doomed by your acts, forever and ever, amen.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       in the world where there are various groups against each other… you need to compromise, especially if the group has number… USE YOUR HEAD….

  • dacuycoy

     Pass the RH bill to reduce poverty and build a planned, manageable population growth of healthy, educated and productive citizens.  Traditional politicians and the bishops simply want a large poor uneducated population because these can be easily controlled, exploited and made to obey.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       WE DONT NEED RH BILL…. there are at least 9 laws that answers the need of the poor for reproductive issues…. AND POPULATION IS NOT THE CAUSE OF POVERTY…

      • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

        Anti – You know the story of 7-up?…. It takes more than 6 tries to get the final taste of 7-up…

                Same with your 9-Laws!… As long as the problem of looming Population Explosion! Who cares if it takes 20 Laws as long as the Problem will be solved!

      • bibing2011

         basta may corruption, wlang silbi kahit 100 laws

      • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

        HUH?! ano daw?

      • Michael Paras

        Population IS the cause of poverty for poor families who are prone to producing more children than they can feed/educate. If they can only reduce their offspring to more manageable levels, then we won’t need the RH bill. So far, they haven’t. That’s why we’re still debating here. What’s your solution to the large number of children that the poor families have? Subsidize all their needs? Provide quality education? Give them jobs? Our budget would be wasted if that’s all you can think of.

        They will produce more and more children and the cumulative effect will always swamp out the budget of our country. That’s the story since time immemorial.

        Why not try the RH bill then? Give them free family planning services. Free tubal ligations/vasectomies or contraceptives to at least give them a fighting chance to produce their desired number of offspring. My parents used artificial means, and we are far better off now than if I have 6 or more siblings since my family isn’t that rich. Let the desperately needy benefit from the same methods my family used.

  • $29897073

    People Strike 3 na si Tito Escaler – check it out another blogger from states is accusing him again her work. Worst penervert pa niya iyong content ng kanyang blog. Check on ABS-CBN,, achi chi!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       ASUS dont single out the guy…. read the speeches of all of them…. and pass it through plagiarism software…. for sure… ALL ARE GUILTY even teachers all through-out the world…

      • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

        @Anti –  As for Mr. Sotto’s Plagiarism, There is no excuse for being an Id.iot!

                     Although mainam na lang rin na intindihin natin ang tao dahil yan lang ang capacity niyang mag-isip… di lang natin iboboto ang mga Bobo-ng katulad niya sunod na eleksiyon!

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    Just make sure you will distribute condoms that will not break at the first push. Another contentious matter… do not laugh!

    • Gagi Wah Santiagi

      .
      ..
      If the CBCP will become an exclusive manufacturer of condoms I bet that they will put holes on each one of it before distributing it to the market!  

      Beware always check who exactly made your condoms!!!
      ..
      .

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

         mag ingat ka sa pag gamit kasi baka may bubug ng salamin sa condom na ginamit mo…. BUTI NGA MASUSUGATAN ka…

  • -XO-

    Has the Church made the Philippines a better place, or just a less worse one? Ask the poor women left to raise their children, not the rich philandering men of the Senate. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHTJJKL4HIMRZQAXMW5TTTV7XU Anti

       just kill them instead… anyway you are into stopping the increase in population of the poor…. that is the most effective form… eliminate the tree….

      NO TO RH BILL promoting/allowing abortion

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WI2AF4QWRIC2W35IYCFGHGPVKI rock

        I thought anti RH bill proponents are morally upright than the pro? Wag padala sa init ng ulo igan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

        Sure you can kill the RH…

        Only if you are alone in this country…
        atleast you dont need it as you cannot procreate on your own!

        P.S.
        Just an advise – Please dont spread your kind… This country doesnt need another Spammer-Narrow minded-Arrogant Freak!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WI2AF4QWRIC2W35IYCFGHGPVKI rock

    RH Bill or not, the educated Filipinos are practicing family planning whether they admit it or not. The responsible Pinoys are pacing the growth of their family in order to give their kids the best quality of life. Walang gutom, napapa-aral, nabibilhan ng damit. etc. Sad to say, there are a lot of Pinoys out there with less education, knowledge, and exposure. Sila ang dapat pagtuunan ng tulong ng gobyerno.

    • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

      @yahoo-WI2AF4QWRIC2W35IYCFGHGPVKI:disqus  – Right, Exactly what this RH Bill wants… to Aid the Poor and to educate them.

    • joshmale2004

      Korek ka diyan Sir. I and my wife have been practicing family planning for the good future of our existing 2 kids.

    • andrew lim

      but what you are saying is true only for people like you. for those who are not, they require salvation from government. and that’s where the problem starts.

      kung lahat iaasa sa gobyerno, laging kapos ang pondo. hindi kaya lahat panagutan ng gobyerno. at hindi sapat na sabihin ” solve corruption”  because youve seen how difficult it is even with an honest president..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

    Kaya ang lalakas ng loob ng mga obispo dahil sa binibigyan sila ng attention. Ano ba ang papel nila sa gobyerno? wala… ni kusing nga ni hindi makapag bigay ng tax ang mga iyan. Donasyon galing sa gobyerno ang kanilang hinihintay. O kaya magagarang SUV. Nasa konstitusyon ba na kailangan silang kunsultahin sa paglikha ng batas? Ano ba namang klaseng politiko mayron tayo? Kung alam ninyo ang batas, bakit takot na takot kayo sa CBCP? Kung gusto ninyo silang isali sa diskusyon, isali na rin sila sa mga nagbabayad ng buwis ng kahit paano ay may maitulong sila sa gobyerno at sa mga Pinoy.

    • Briane lamp

       Ang papel nila ay para sa mga tao, madlang people in short.
      Mukhang di ka na tao.
      Check yourself please.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

         Sir, do you even know me? Anong papel para sa mga tao ang sinasabi mo? Sige nga sabihin mo. Know your history. Tingnan mo kung sino ang nagpahirap sa atin ng mahigit 300 taon. Alamin mo kung saan ka dapat tumayo? Kung ang mga ito ay ayaw makipag tulungan sa gobyerno, bakit sila nakikialam? Tingnan mo nga kung sino ay may mararangyang pamumuhay sa ngayon. I do believe in Christ but what they do is against the teaching of the Lord. Do you read your Bible? Do you even have one? Check yourself as well. You might be one of those blind followers of the church. Read your Bible and find out if what they are saying is in accordance with the teaching of the Lord. Hindi iyung sunod ka ng sunod na parang kabayo na may piring ang mata sa magkabilang side. Open your eyes to the truth. Huwag kang mabuhay sa nkaraan. Check who has one of the highest investor sa Makati baka sakali magising ka.

      • boypalaban

         punta ka na sa mga biktima ng lindol, baha…at mga maysakit ng
        leptospirosis, dengue,sa mga halos mamatay na sa gutom…etc…mamigay
        ka na ng condom at contraceptives…lecture ka na tungkol sa RH Bill…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

        Tama…baka maunahan ka ng mga parit obispo dun. Mabilis ksi mga yan mamigay at tumolong sa mga biktimat nagugutom

  • francoalminolibre

    rh bill deadlock over. that should be the correct caption.

  • Briane lamp

    Pills
    I.u.d
    Abortion

    C
    a
    y
    e
    t
    a.

    Nawaý tanggalin na ang mga gamot sa pagpaslang sa mga imumulat pa lang sa mundo.

    Some
    Men
    Involve in
    Loving
    Everyone…..

  • regd

    We are just continuing the fight our forefathers started, the fight for freedom & independence. The friars of today just put up a good fight and are not willing to relinquish their control on basically every aspect of our life.

  • http://www.facebook.com/oustcorona ILL_HIT_YOUR_FACE

    Why the He.ell should they be concern with the Bishops on the first place?….

    Base from the survey atleast 75% were approved of the RH Bill,

    Should these politicians be more concern over the Public Sentiments?

    • spearheads

      You did not only hit my face but also my eyes. Ang sakit sa mata.

    • boypalaban

      akala ko ba 70%…bakit paiba iba ? halatang gawa gawa lang…

      punta ka na sa mga biktima ng lindol, baha…at mga maysakit ng leptospirosis, dengue,sa mga halos mamatay na sa gutom…etc…mamigay ka na ng condom at contraceptives…lecture ka na tungkol sa RH Bill…

  • Jehd stephen Cutamora

    know what guys iv been studying sa isang katolikong simbahan tinuruan ng katolikong pamamaraan naging nurse sa katolikong pag tuturo,,, When iv become a nurse… i volunteered sa isang hospital sa amin… after that  nag trabaho Sa DOH Bilang RNHEALS  mga nurses para sa mga barangay… and the story starts,,, Ako poy talagang nabagabag sa aking na saksihan sa amin mga barrio na subrang layu sa centro ng aming bayan,,, akoy pumupunta doon araw araw para e assess yung family needs nila specially health,,,, mga kababayan alam nyo ba gaanu kahirap na maka saksi ng isang pamilya na isang kahig isang tuka? bata na humihingi ng pera pero walang magawa yung magulang dahil walang pera,,, bata humihingi ng gatas pero wala,,, bata  na nag tratrabaho kahit minor pa? buntis na napaka resgo ang sitwasyon pero walang magawa,,, bagong anak na bata na tetanu dahil sa maling practice ng panganganak? ako poy para talgang nabagabag sa totoong situasyon sa ating bayan,,, anu ba kayu wake up anung taon na,,,pagbigwan nyo naman ang mga tao para naman magiging maganda ang kanilang buhay,,, akoy nag papasalamat sapagkat nakita ko kung anu ang totoong sitwasyon dito sa atin,,, sa mga anti rh bill,,, sana naman balang araw makapunta kayu sa mga liblib na lugar dito sa atin at pag nakita nyo na dyan muna kayu mag desisyun…. salamat sa lahat

    • bibing2011

      ang problemang sinabi mo ay matugunan kahit walang RH Bill.hindi na kailangan ng RH Bill para matugunan ang problemaing ito.marami na tayong batas tungkol dito.ang kulang na lang po ay implementation.

      magpunta ka lang sa health center.libre mga contraceptives…etc hindi bawal ang pagbibiugay ng contraceptives dito sa pinas unlike in other countries na kailangan mo pa ng resita sa doctor.

      sabi mo walang makain ang mga bata?ang RH Bill ay hindi magbigay ng pagkain sa mga bata.kundi magbigay ng contraceptives.  sex education starting grade 5 pupils?bigyan mo ng libro papel at lapis ang mga bata.hindi kung paano gamitin mga contraceptives. RH Bill promotes promiscuity.

      lumala ang AIDs ng thailand dahil akala nila condom lang katapat ng AIDs na yan.maliit masyado ang AIDs virus, kaya nakallusot ito sa condom.

    • boypalaban

      tanong mo sa mga opisyal ng gobyerno diyan sa inyo tungkol sa mga pondo…
      pag nasagot ka nang maayos at totoo…diyan ako maniniwala sa sinasabi mo…

    • boypalaban

      naranasan mo na ba tumira sa mga sulok ng kanayunan na laging nag-aabang baka magka gyera?

      naranasan mo na ba tumira sa bahay na itinayo na may puno sa gitna at nasa gilid lang ng kalsada?

      wag mo na ilitanya pinagdaanan mo…baka marami pang mas matindi pinagdaanan sa yo sa mga nagsusulat dito…

      ok lang na ilitanya mo ang mga pangarap ng mga mahihirap o nung mga halos wala nang makain ng kanilang pagkagutom at pagkauhaw sa condom at contraceptives…pag nakapagkwento ka niyan…saka lang ako maniniwala sa yo…

  • andrew lim

    ENRILE CARES ABOUT SPERM BUT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HUMAN LIVES

    Why is Enrile so protective of sperm these days, when he did not care about human lives when he was Minister of Defense under Martial Law?

    He sent hundreds of anti-Marcos dictatorship activists to prison, resulting in deaths, rapes, tortures and disappearances.

    Why does he care about sperm when he did not respect whole human beings back then?

    • boypalaban

      copy paste…kahapon pa yang post mo…

      sperm lang ba ang kailangan para mabuo ang tao?

      ngayon kung naging abusado siya panahon ng idol mong si mokmok, di na ba siya pwede magbago?

      si edcel lagman mo ba nagbago na? matindi dumepensa sa magnanakaw at sinungaling na pekeng presidente na kadikit ng isa mo pang idol na si imeldific marcosa?

      “back then” pala e…dati pa yon…

      • andrew lim

        palagay ko nag-google translate ka lang nito, ang sama ng grammar e…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Remegio-Dy/100001171378882 Remegio Dy

    Boxing icon Manny proposed to concentrate in creating jobs rather that spending billions of pesos for RH bill.  Right now no bill was filed in congress on how to create jobs for the poorest of the poor so that they will have food on the table instead of contraceptives which cannot be eaten by the starving children. During the interpellation of Sotto where Recto ask if during his tenure of office as Vice Mayor of Quezon City and Senator of the republic, if anyone of his constituents ask for condom?  Sotto’s reply was that, oftentimes he was asked with Basketball, court, school building and KBL but never a contraceptives.

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    dapat lang maging cirscumspect si noynoy dahil presidente siya ng lahat hindi lang ng iilan. parang sa bahay ang magulang hindi agad papanig sa isang anak… pakinggan lahat upuan at paguusapan ang mga controversial issues… lalo na dito sa rh kung sa an kanya kanyang matinding paniwala ang pinag uusapan. Freedom to believe!

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    huwag husgahan ang tao. dahil marami jan lokoloko no on ngayon matino na; iba matino no on ngayon loko loko na. umiikot ang mundo. no on si joker galit sa korrupt tapos k gloria hindi na. si enrile pangit ang panaglan no on k marcos ngayon super ok na. kaya tama ang kasabihan hindi pa tapos ang laban ng tao hanggang sa huling laban o minuto ng buhay nya.

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    no on ok ang thalidomide yon pala masama; ok ang asbestos yon pala cancerous; ok ang chemicals sa africa yon pala nakakamatay at nakakasira ng kalikasan; ok ang aircon yon pala nakakasira ng ozone layer; ok ang plastic yon pala masama sa nature etc etc etc

    • damatannapo

      sa aircon ang problema young freon na refrigerant dahil ang tatamaan ay ang ozone layers

      asbestos tinangal na sa water system pero gamit pa rin ngayon sa brakes at gaskets/insulations para sa high temp applications

      at tulad ng asbestos  at RH na deadly sa atin..wala tayong pagpipilan kungdi kunin ang risk at decide which is lesser evil

      • boypalaban

         ang matinding risk diyan ay kung sa mga mahihirap at kababaihan nga mapupunta ang bilyon bilyong pondo niyan…
        dami nang programa ng gobyerno para sa mahihirap at kababaihan…saan na napunta ang mga pondo?

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    sa europe ok walang anak no on ngayon magbabayad sila ng 100 euro per month per mother na magbuntis at mag anak. pa iba iba nga ang mundo. dapat lang pag aralan mabuti ang pagkilos hindi ora orada mag husga.

  • damatannapo

    Beware over population is a global problem and the earth’s resources are getting scarce

    Discovered and existing oil wells for energy are estimated to last up to only 5 decades from now
    China is expanding it’s territory. at present they are within the vicinity of our shores at Palawan and Zambales due to strong possibities of oil discoveries

    The recent scarcity and almost un availability of canned sardines we experienced early this year was a result of Tamban fish shortages in our seas

    Include with the above, the pollution , calamities’ increasing frequency and severity and the diseases/epidemic caused by global warming and over population is really a big concern not only within but extends beyond our shorelines

    We need a solution for our next generation’s survival

    The end justify the means …Machiavelli

    • superpilipinas

      Yup. People should be taught to discipline themselves and quit fffkng like stray dogs and cats.

      Discipline is the solution.

      • boypalaban

        yes discipline…
        there is no discipline in condom…only risk taking

      • damatannapo

        kaya kailangan turuan ng basics ang karamihan sa atin kung papaano mag plano at mag palaki ng pamilya

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    kung basahin natin ang exchanges of blogs sa lahat ng rh site, nakakahiya dahil asal hayop ang makikita mo sa bawat grupo trying his best to verbally abuse the other side. nawala ang decency at pinagaralan ng mga bloggers isang phenomenon na dapt pag aralan. masama siguro ang anonymous o du on lang naging natural na beast ang tao pag anonymous! Lumalabas ang tinatagong kahayopan. Contagious ang asal hayop and it’s understandable dahil survival mode pareho ang stance. wala tayong pagkakaiba sa mga nababasa natin sa mga amerikano kung maginsultohan.

    Try reading nba blogs kung sa an bastusan ang ga wain ng amerikano in
    bringing the other down.

    walang pagkakaiba sa atin

    • bibing2011

       ganun talaga ang tao.meron asal hayop na nakatago.lalabas ang asal hayop na yan kapag mababa na masyado ang moralidad.

      turuan natin ang tao para maging responsible.ganito ba ang kalabasan kung merong RH Bill?sex lang ng sex ok lang basta di mabuntis?nakakatakot kung ganito ang nasa isip ng anak mo!!!

      ang moralidad lang po ang naghiwalay sa atin sa mga hayop.kunin mo ang moralidad ng tao, hayop na tayo.

      • Michael Paras

        Madami din po na self professed “moral” posters na anti RH ang nag reresort sa name calling. Kaya nasira na po ang argument niyo. Gagamitin nila ang bibliya at pangalan ng Diyos tapos magmumura at mang iinsulto ng kapwa. Mas immoral po iyon para sa akin.

  • Bobby de Castro

    The supposed amendments may be done only as sweeteners for the passage of a controversial and divisive bill into a law.  In reality, however, they only “remove” apparently less controversial phrases, but at rock bottom, the government is still adopting a human birth control bill that champions a choice to adopt artificial contraception.  That becomes a national policy!  It does not affirm the Constitutional mandate of the state to uphold the sanctity of life from conception to natural death.  It does not even mention that reproduction should be open to life, does not stress that responsible parenthood involves self discipline, too, if spacing of the number of children had to be resorted, and defined “freedom of choice” strongly in favor of artificial contraception without discussing government efforts and funding (if funding there must be for family planning) for the effective combination of Natural Family Planning Methods and their dissemination so as to be less expensive for government, more reliant on the couple for successful practice, more safe and reliable.  These methods which are not limited to just the “calendar method” suffer from bad publicity they do not deserve, are seen as cumbersome but are really not so because they come naturally as symptoms that the woman is fertile (body temperature, saliva, cervical mucus, knowledge about own menstrual period, etc.) and are easily recognizable. The woman’s cycle could be treated to become regular and this is “moral” because there is a physical dysfunction or illness that requires medical attention, unlike sex or the reproductive process which are “naturally” with their specific physical structures and processes that need no artificial intervention from man (if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it). Natural Family Planning Methods are disparaged to encourage women “acceptors” to prefer the use of artificial means of contraception (and hence not giving them really the freedom to choose, but encourages them against abstinence and self-discipline, as their contribution to national welfare and progress.  The bill should help its citizens become self-reliant, not dependent on government dole outs like free contraceptives and services. INSTEAD OF AN RH BILL, legislators should craft more specific legislative pieces that would directly address human development, more focused efforts at specific poverty alleviation measures (job and employment generation, skills training, livelihood creation opportunities especially for the housewives in their communities, more accessible education especially in far flung and “forgotten” corners of the archipelago, investments and adequate infrastructure spending, social and medical services in depressed areas and in the barrios, etc.) and bring about a just social order in the land where the small man would have more in law.

    Reasonable people could easily see that the recent observations of the Bloomberg News, HSBC and BSP’s Diwa Gunigundo, among others, indicate that the competitive edge of the country lie in its young workforce, upticking consumption locally and giving jobs to many in call centers and abroad, bringing in the dollars.  Globally, even without an rh law, the Philippines has climbed up 10 notches in global competitiveness.  More efforts in those areas that have accounted for this extraordinary feat, compared to most of our neighbors, including Vietnam and Thailand, (and yes, even China!) make an rh law unnecessary, superfluous and ill-timed.  In a recent Asian Conference on Population held in Bangkok, attended by international demographers, economists and UN staff, among others, the decreasing fertility rates in the Asian region has even been deplored!  It is significant to note that the same international conference centered on a discussion on “population” did not leave out tackling urbanization, transmigration, labor and employment as relevant issues that condition over-concentration of population in certain places that hold the promise of a “better life.”  The Philippine government should stop being enamoured with the issue of “overpopulation” because such is only a smokescreen that could obscure efforts at truly giving equal opportunities to the current human capital that we have.  If the government truly cares for its own, it needs not distribute free contraceptives to the poor; it should start taking stock of the poor where they are now and provide them with the means to find their lost identity as human beings.  They do not deserve to live in squalor, filth, in slums, without children going to school because their parents cannot afford!  If the very poor flock to urban and urbanizing areas of the country in search of a better life but are only frustrated, let us help them find their dream, give them hope and social justice, so that they can have more in law, more roof over their heads, more food on the table, more clothes on their backs, more work for husband and wife to make both ends meet, more education for their young, i.e., free them from want; improve their lives, respect their sensibilities and religion, use free speech to bring attention to their plight, rather than giving them “cake” when they ask for “bread.”  The country does not need an rh bill now.  Let us have our priorities straight and true.

    For all we know, if the basic human needs are met, specific bills (or amendments to existing laws (including infant and maternal care) are crafted properly, the genuine needs of the constituency to end poverty and raise the standards of living of the very poor are implemented with priority, there would not even be a need for an obsessive fixation for a reproductive health bill law.  The very poor would accept their responsibility to bear children they can only afford to feed and provide for and social justice, giving us all an opportunity to live in this world like Children of God, would be restored all in all in Christ, the Alpha and the Omega.

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. all the section on contraceptives are gone. read this news.

      so go ahead and deceive yourself. 

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    kaya sa history mi dark ages, mi polpot, mi hitler, mi stalin, mi CIA, mis disparecidos kasi nga ang tao gaya ng pinapakita dito sa rh discussion ng almost lahat na bloggers pati ako minsan, ang tao ay may pagka animal at hayop. siguro nga social animal tayo hindi nawawala ang pagka animal kahit anong napag aralan! magandang lesson to sa rh blogging. bakit nagkakaganito ang filipino bloggers?

    calling on student psycho o psychia study the bloggers profile and actuations on all rh bloggers and study why they behave like that…

    • damatannapo

      marami rito sa forum mga sociopaths

      iniimbento ng figures maka pag post lang, mga pathological lyings may mai post lang, mapagmalaki at tatawagin ang kapwa poster niya na taga hanga, mga katagang bobo, satanic, hudas na pawang puro one liner lang naman ang post, puno ng galit, callousness, sex oriented ang mga reply, mga walang galang sa kapwa at maraming pang mga ibang traits na siyang nag sasalarawan ng maraming kababayan natin na nagpapakita ng moral at makaDiyos pero sa tunay ay siya naman kabaligtaran (Imagine a post like this: No to RH Bill kung hinde war na lang meron naman agnostic daw pero naniniwala may demonyo at kilala pa niya ang pangalan nitong demonyo at pa vulgota vulgota latin pa)

      • boypalaban

        pakibasa po ang mga post ng mga proRH…mas maraming mura , name calling, insulto, kabastusan na sinasabi…

      • damatannapo

        parehas lang yan mapa RH o no RH wala na kaunti na lang ang may galang sa atin

  • carlcid

    Some senators would want to hold up their finger to see which way the political wind is blowing. They haven’t gotten an indication so far, that’s why they’re holding back their votes. Whatever it is, the Catholic Church wants to maintain its dogmatic hold on the nation by watering down the RH bill until it becomes a worthless and ineffectual piece of legislation.

    • superpilipinas

      It’s already worthless….and it took away the government’s attention from more deadly problems  like Dengue that affected 8000 and already killed 500 the first half of this year.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5GRTCH676OFEK7ELOJBBA6EMCE Bonifacio Aquino

    LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. SINCE THE RH BILL IS A PROPOSED PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WILL DIVIDE THE NATION (ACCORDING TO SEN. TITO “ESCALERA” SOTTO, GRADUATE OF WANBOL UNIVERSITY MAJOR IN PUSOY ARTS AND SCIENCE), CONGRESS AND SENATE SHOULD PASS A JOINT RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE AS A PLEBISCITE ON THE BILL DURING THE 2013 MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THEN LET SEC DILLEMA AND CJ SERENO RULE ON ITS CONSTITUTIONALITY. THUS, EFFECTIVELY, SET ASIDE MUNA ANG CONTROBERSYAL NA BILL, NA UMUUBOS SA PANAHON AT KAYAMANAN NG PAMAHALAAN, UPANG ANG MAMAMAYAN MISMO ANG MAGHUHUSGA KUNG KARAPATDAPAT BA ANG BATAS NA ITO. (ITO PO AY PAYAK PERO KATUTUBO KO PONG KUROKURO AT HINDI KO PO SINIPI O GINAYA SA MGA NAKARAANG LATHALA KAHIT NA SALIKSIKIN PA NINYO SA INTERNET HANE).    

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5GRTCH676OFEK7ELOJBBA6EMCE Bonifacio Aquino

      It’s more aptly called “referendum” on a proposed piece of legislation.

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. isa pang sira ang caps lock ng computer.

      mabuti pa, kalimutan na lang ang RH para lahat ng atensyon nasa Dengue na pumatay na ng 500 nitong kalahating taon at 8000 na ang nagkasakit.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5GRTCH676OFEK7ELOJBBA6EMCE Bonifacio Aquino

        HINDI SIRA ANG CAPS LOCK COMPUTER KO NO. STYLE ITO AY PARA MA-LOCK-IN ANG MGA UTAK-WANBOL AT PUSOY.  

      • damatannapo

        brod ang denge ay resulta ng poor hygiene coming from poor sanitary practices dahil sa dami ng tao at nagsisiksikan na tayo

        noong bata pa ako kaunting kaunti lang ang nakakaalam kung ano ang dengue, ako nga lang 57 na pero natutunan ko lang ang dengue nitong 2000 lang

  • bibing2011

     hindi overpopulated ang pilipinas.bumaba na po ang fertility rate ng pilipinas, less than 2% na lang, di katulad dati. subukan mong bilangin mga anak ng mga kakilala mo.1 or 2 na lang mga anak nila di ba? REPLACEMENT kids ang tawag dun. di na kailangang mag RH Bill pa.libre at hindi na kailangan ng resita sa doctor para makakuha ng contraceptives.

    REPLACE

    • tamumd

      Sorry…your info is wrong… the 1.9% you’re referring to pertains to Population growth rate of which the average around the world is 1.07%. Our Total Fertility rate right now is 3.2 to 4. The Replacement rate set by the UN is 2.1. So we have long ways to go! 

      • IanAlera

        tamumd,

        Stop your nonsense. Do not pretend to know more than the Chief economist of the Republic of the Philippines, the NEDA CHIEF.

      • tamumd

        Sorry Ian ..even the pope misses up. Mr. Balisacan mixed up the figures when grilled by Enrile.

        So why don’t you find out yourself..the figures for those 2 concepts and get back to us what you find.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to tamumd,

        Stop your nonsense.

      • tamumd

        That’s all what you’re capable of saying now?

      • IanAlera

        tamumd,

        that’s enough for you, for now.

      • tamumd

        :-)

      • damatannapo

        Facts/data doesn’t help just look around it’s the truth and reality

      • IanAlera

        damatannapo

        Then tell us what you see as ‘truth’. Then let us discuss it. Ok ba?

      • damatannapo

        why are the chinese around our shores now? noon hindi naman issue ito noon, actually si Cloma (Pilipino) pa nga ang nakadiscover ng Spratlys (if Im right?)
        why are climates now are extreme and more frequent as compared 30 years ago?
        lepto/dengue wala yan sa isip ng tao noon dahil wala sa balita yaan noon?
        daming bahay sa ilalim ng tulay, noon ang iskwater na sa bakanteng lote lang?
        noon ang bahay namin walang rehas ngayon maraming namamatay sa sunog dahil hirap makalabas?
        bakit kaya?

      • IanAlera

        Replying to damatannapo

        Bakit hindi mo sagutin para makita natin kung reasonable?

      • boypalaban

         The Replacement rate set by the UN is 2.1. So we have long ways to go!

        kailangan ba laging sundin yan kung anong gusto ng UN?

      • tamumd

        You don’t have to..if you want the runway population growth to continue. And you could support all of those starving, malnurished kids whose only future is to dig through trash day in and day out.

      • IanAlera

        taummd,

        Stop your nonsense, there is no ‘runway population growth’.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

       sir, sad to say yung anak ng kakilala ko eh 8 ang anak. ayun di makapag high school. nagtitinda ng fish ball ang iba sa kanila.

      • bibing2011

         hi Maam Lorelei,  sa math po meron tayong tinatawag na averaging.try mo
        kahit 10 family lang, bilangin mo mga anak nila, get the sum, tapos
        divide the sum by 10. kung kaya mo 100 families, mas OK.

        Thanks Maam Lorelei!

    • damatannapo

      Maraming tao malakas ang konsumo
      tamban na isda naubos kaya anim na buwan tayong walang Ligong sardines nitongunang bahagi ng taon

      ang langis na para sa gasolina mga 50 anyos na lang daw ang itatagal base sa mga existing discovered oil wells worldwide kaya ang mga Tsino andyan na sa tabi ng Palawan at Zambales dahil hinala natin lahat marami langis riyan at pag nasakop na ng China tuluyan iyang mga lugar na may langis, advantage sa kanila at misfortune sa ating mga Pilipino

    • Michael Paras

      Mali po ang figures niyo. Yung 2% ay population growth ng bansa natin. Mataas po ito. Yung Fertility rate natin ay 3.14 noong 2010. Di po expressed as percentage ang fertility rate. Mataas din po ito compared sa UN target average sa isang bansa, lalo na sa isang 3rd world country.

      Ang problema po sa fetility rate/growth rate natin ay malaking porsyento po ng pinapanganak ay sa mga mahihirap na pamilya. At madami sa mga pamilyang ito ang nanganganak ng napakadami. Yung mga 1 or 2 na anak na kakilala ko, gumagamit sila contraceptives o di kaya naman ay nag pa vasectomy/ligation, kaya nila na achieve yun.

      Mali din na ibase sa average ng pamilya na nakikita/kakilala mo kung i take into consideration ang RH bill. In the first case, di naman para sa lahat ang RH bill. Target nito ang mga mahihirap na di makabili ng sariling contraceptives o mag undergo sa surgical procedures. Kung gusto mo gamitin ang law of average in relation to the RH bill, isama mo lang dito ang mga mahihirap na pamilya.

  • Bato’ng Bantilis

    “While this Act does not amend the penal law on abortion, the government shall ensure that all women needing care for postabortion complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, nonjudgmental and compassionate manner.” afterwhich the government will investigate the case to determine any criminal liability of the parties.

  • eagleclaw101

    Tama! Sang-ayon ako na ipasa-ilalim sa isang pambansang
    Plebisito ang pag-sasabatas ng RH Bill upang ang mamamayan na mismo ang
    magdesisiyon ng tama at naaayon at upang maiwasan ang tahasang pakikialam ng
    Simbahan.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CCM42NDQHD3YK6KN66RGBZZR6A Miguel Antonio

    The rh bill has advantages and disadvantages that we all can consider, but what makes it difficult for us citizens to be able to decide what is right for us is the absence of quality and quantitative analysis from both sides of the argument which certainly our lawmakers has not done. The pro and anti-rh bill should present each case complete with risk analysis with probability of occurrence and its equivalent consequence in relation to moral, health, economic and safety of each person. This bill is very important to us as this is prone to be abused and has moral implications that could be irreversible. As an added note, we can’t just create a national law to help certain portion of the population (<25% who badly need this) because of government incompetence/inefficiencies/corruption and leave the greater number of population (75% capable of handling responsible parenthood) with morality risk. This statement should be validated with correct risk analysis from our lawmakers and we can’t just let them create certain laws with less thoughts.

    • damatannapo

      Machiavelli….The end justify the Means

      Tama nga at maganda ang resulta pero it was done in an evil way

      Failure/misfortune ang results ng isang task kahit ito ay ginawa gamit ang malinis na pakay o moral

    • JLFS

      Risk                                                                                                  Probability
      People living in vulnerable areas (river banks, seashores, sloping areas).  High
      High crime rate                                                                                    High
      Unemployment                                                                                    High
      Lack of medical care                                                                            High
      Lack of quality education                                                                      High

  • InChristAlone_75

     On the brighter side of this very complex and sensitive issue, at least ang mga tao sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas kahit papaano me natitirang kahit konting pagsaalangala sa Diyos o sa paniniwala ng iba tungkol sa Diyos. Dito sa bansang kinalalagyan ko ngayon karamihan sa mga namumuno walang kinikilalang Diyos kaya may abortion, may divorce, at ngayon malapit ng maipasa ang legalization of Gay marriage…

    • damatannapo

      Ang problema may Diyos nga rito sa atin

      pero paranoid ka rito even during daytime

      God forbids sino kaya ang next na victim ng ma pa pulis o criminal o ng isang nakaupong public servant

      Which is better: pwede kang mag dala ng kamera o cell phone anywhere with least danger o dito na kahit yong bagong baby na 3 days old pa lang kikidnap sa loob mismo ng hospital room?

      Rito mga pakitang tao lang at least diyan mga totoong tao

    • burubudongstongstoings

      may diyos nga pero ang pobre naman. for your information karamihan diyan sa tinitirahan mo ay may diyos yan kaso lang iba ang kanilang paraan ng paniniwala.

    • superpilipinas

      Sa Sweden nga, some degree of incest pwede na. If we don’t draw the line and hold our ground now, we’ll eventually come to that…

      • damatannapo

        RH or no RH nasa napakababang level ng moralida natin dito

        wala na pong pag galang ang karamihan sa kapwa tao

        ang pulis politiko pati mga pari involved sa mga iskandalo na involved ang pera

        respect of life ay wala na sa bokabolario kasi dahil sa greed at malamang ito rin ay survival for the fittest dahil sa tindi ng competition at pag dami ng tao

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        Please do not target only priest to moral scandals.

        Some/Many of the religious leaders of OTHER SECTs, Christian and Others have also been involved in moral scandals and offenses.

        “Survival of the fittest” in the physical way, only applies to primitive and/or vicious societies.

      • damatannapo

        ano ba ang tinatawag pag pinag aagawan ang Sprtatlys (langis po iyan ) at matira ang matibay

        iyong nanghoholdap anong tawag ryan nang aagaw ng pinaghirapan ng iba pinapatay pa ang walang kalaban laban

      • InChristAlone_75

         and have you heard about the ‘threesome’ in Brazil na nagpakasal? I still feel hopeful for the Phils. I don’t agree with the Church’s stand na bawal ang all forms of contraception neither do I agree that RH bill can altogether solve the overpopulation issue, it’s a very complex and sensitive one as I’ve mentioned kaya tama lang that both parties should be given due respect to air their positions on the matter.

      • tamumd

        It’s been practiced in Europe for a long time now. Just look at the different royal families there..they’re related by blood. They marry their cousins..some first cousins. There’s a reason why Empress Maria Theresia of Austria was called the great grandmother of Europe.

        But that’s not gonna happen to us. At least not in my family coz even to the 4th or 5th consanguinity we are still close to them as if they’re first cousins.

    • Jomex

      what about those people who believe in god, yet justify killing people in the name of their god and religion. sa pilipinas halos lahat naniniwala sa dyos pero baluktot pa rin ang moralidad ng maraming tao.

      there are situations that allows abortion as legal and necessary like ectopic pregnancy, abortion is not wholly man made as you said, nature is also an abortifacient, it is a fact that some babies will not make it to the full term (stillbirths, etc), there is also the inevitable question of the choice of the women who got raped and suffered emotional trauma and who do not want the baby to grow to its full term. the situation concerning abortion is not one-dimensional and narrow minded as the church sees it.

      divorce should be decided by the couple, not the church. and state should legislate laws that allow couple to live productive lives. especially those in abusive relationships.

      gay marriage is a right, in many ways, it enhances the meaning of marriage, not just bound to the narrow definition of marriage as only for producing babies. marriage is mostly about good relationships that will eventually be conducive to children.

      • InChristAlone_75

        Hi Jomex, true believers of Christ do not kill (includes abortion), divorce, marry the same sex – these are all sins against Him. People who say they believe in God but whose actions say otherwise have not really known and believed in Him. 

      • bibing2011

         hi Jomex , pinapakita mo lang na magkapatid itong tatlo: Abortion, Divorce, GayMarriage. Dont forget to mention their eldest, pang-apat na kapatid: Pre-Marital Sex.

        Now i am convinced there ‘s really a constant war between good and evil!hahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        I was about to agree with many of your opinions., until…,
        you approved “gay marriage(s)”.
        BTW, a Marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman.

        If gays want to have a formal relationship to live together…, 
        let them do so…, as long as they call it by another name.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to Jomex

        Diyos ko po!  Gusto mo din bang i-promote ang pagkalat ng Hiv -aids na idinudulot ng kabaklaan?

    • tamumd

      And that’s the irony. We’re the most christian in our neck of the woods yet we’re one of the most corrupt.
      So if you cannot stand the morals of the country where you’re living now..how come you’re sticking around? Don’t you wanna come back to the Philippines since our people still believe in a deity?

      • InChristAlone_75

        That’s the irony too, God found me here. Yes I do very much. One thing i learned migrating here is that wherever you go if you don’t have Christ in your life you will still end up going nowhere.

      • tamumd

        lol..so your god was blind about you this whole time? Only when you got there he/she/it found you? lol Interesting….

        “end up going nowhere”….where are you trying to go? lol Your own perceived moral high ground is obviously showing! That doesn’t make you any holier than anyone else. When you die you’re just like everyone else..you’re gonna turn into dirt feasted by molds and earthworms. And that’s the end of you!!!

      • InChristAlone_75

        The Shepherd goes to find his sheep, not the other way around. I wasn’t elevating myself to a moral high ground and I didn’t claim to be holier than anyone else. I am a sinner saved by the grace of God. Yes when I die my body will turn into dirt feasted by molds and earthworms on this earth but that’s not the end of me because here’s what my God promises me: “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies.”

      • tamumd

        So apparently your god missed you since you were born.  Only when you got to where you are now he/she/it found you.

        When did your god tell you that you will be resurrected? Has anyone who had been there told you that? lol Or you’re just basing your naive statement from a fairytale story book written during the bronze age by some illiterate nomads?

      • InChristAlone_75

        Faith is a gift from God, so no amount of explaining on my part will make you understand, and your unbelief does not change who He is – the Almighty GOD but I will share to you the Gospel – For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have eternal life. May God open your eyes to the truth of His Word.

      • tamumd

        Your faith is just in your head. God is a man-made human construct to make him feel good and to give reassurance to his weakness. Interestingly you are just parroting out the verses from the christian holy book. There are billions of people around the world who pray to a different god or no god. How are you sure yours the correct one? All of the other ones are jockying for their own god/gods as the best. lol Have you noticed in the bible..your god is a hostile, self-centered, vengeful, inconsistent, murderous, genocidal, unreasonable deity, exactly what a human would act. We actually created him/her/it in our own image not the other way around. lol If he/she/it a god all powerful…why in the world would he sacrifice his only son? He could have done anything without having to resort to that purported gory crucifixion to show his love. isn’t that bizzare? Would you kill your son to show your love to others? I don’t think so. Heck I would never do that..it doesn’t make any sense specially if I have all the power to do something else. Again this way of thinking reflects the archaic mindset of a bronze age religious mind in the context of their cultural circumtances at that time where and when sacrifices were the norm.

      • IanAlera

        tamumd,

        Puro conjectures yang post mo –Halatang gawa ng isang ignorante.

        Kung hindi mo alam ang isang bagay huwag kang magma-arunong.

      • tamumd

        Why don’t you go through each of my points and refute them if they are conjectures.
        Demonstrate to all of us that your god exists and that he controls everything in this world.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to tamumd

        You made the assertions, but you have no proof that what you are talking about is true.  You have no proof that you are talking about our God or any other gods.  You don’t believe in god, do you?

        Your non-god is only in your head. I don’t have to refute each and every non-point that you have made.

        Nobody is forcing you to believe in god or to believe in our God.  It is not my loss.

      • tamumd

        Since you’re the one who believe in a deity…the burden of proof is on your side!

        Non-god is not in my head..that’s the reality. There’s no higher power that intervenes in our daily life or created us. You don’t wanna refute my points coz you have nothing to say about them.

      • IanAlera

        tamumd,

        You said — “Non-god is not in my head..that’s the reality.”

        I say — You made your assertion that there is a non-god. You believe that your non-god is real. Prove that there is a non-god.

      • tamumd

        How could I prove a negative. It’s non-existent. It’s the absence of something. Since you are the one who believe in a god…the onus should come from you to prove it..not me who think a god doesn’t exist.

      • IanAlera

        YOU SAID — “How could I prove a negative. It’s non-existent. It’s the absence of something. Since you are the one who believe in a god…the onus should come from you to prove it..not me who think a god doesn’t exist.”

        I SAY — Well that’s the point. You believe in the reality of your non-god . But you can’t prove it, because according to you, it is non-existent.

        Tamumd, you have just proven that you are ignorant.

      • tamumd

        Therefore prove to us..the existence of your god!!!

      • IanAlera

        Replying to tamumd

        If you really want to know God, I can help you; but if you only want to debate about it, it will be a waste of time.

      • tamumd

        You didn’t answer what I want you to do.

      • InChristAlone_75

        As I have already said, Faith is a gift from God, He is the author and finisher of my faith, it didn’t come from me. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe it’s also just in your head that there is no God? And that you try to deny this truth because you want to think or more aptly, delude yourself that you are good and you are great without God? Rather than ‘parroting’, if I may borrow your word, the arguments of all the other unbelievers why not read the Bible and know the truth yourself, as I am sure you like the rest of those who attack the Bible have not done so. While you try to refute and mock the Bible with your wisdom, the Bible has even more shown its power and truth, here’s what it says to people like you: For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
        “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
        the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
        Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe – 1Corinthians 1 18:21
        Seasons come and go, great people have lived and died but this Book which you said was written during the bronze age by some illiterate nomads has stood undefeated! – Jesus said ‘Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.’ Brother truth stands and Jesus is Truth!

      • tamumd

        How do you know faith is a gift from your god? Did he personally gave it to you? Or it’s just your delusion? I didn’t say I am good..and definitely do not act god-like. I am just a human being..one of the organisms that happen to live on this earth. The bible has shown power and truth? Power maybe…I concede in a different context but I dunno about the truth. If by power you mean control and subjugation by enslaving people, killing people, giving decrees on what to eat and wear, who should be stoned, sure I agree. It’s interesting you like to gloss over your fairytale book and only parrot out the nice verses. You left out the gory ones. Here’s a verse from Exodus that shows how ridiculous and unreasonable your god is: “The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever.  It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.  Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy.  Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.  Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.”  (Exodus 31:12-15) Another one from Ezekiel – “Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)
        And there are other gory verses that when you read them only a mad man could think about. Definitely not the words of a loving god but the wishes and evil desires of a human being – I guess the writter’s, mascaraded as the voice of god.

        SO since you’re claiming sole ownership of truth..what happened then to those people who lived before the bible was even written. What happens to people who follows Islam and believe in the koran? The Hindus? the Buddhists whose faith predated christianity? And those native tribes with animist faith? Think about that? Each of you thinks your own religion is the true one. How could it be if there are so many different religions? Do you even know the history of christianity and when was the new testament written? Who wrote the books in the old testament? No wonder most of the biblical scholars in famous Universities around the world doubt the veracity of the bible as a chronical of real events. It’s basically a story book written by different people….oh by the way not by Matthew, John, Luke or Mark….. mention known places and then added tall stories in between. The very first books of the new testament – the Epistles of Paul were written 40 to 100 years after the purported death of christ supposedly by Paul who have never even seen christ. The gospels were written hundreds of years later. Also there are no archeological corroboration in alot of the stories in the bible old or new testament. Historical evidence are also specious. So yeah..you are literally hanging on a disputable strand of fragile belief or faith.

      • InChristAlone_75

        For it is by GRACE you (I) have been saved, through FAITH—and this is NOT FROM YOURSELVES (me), it is the GIFT of God— NOT BY (my) WORKS, so that no one (I) can (cannot) boast (Ephesians 2:8-9). If you suspect that I am delusional then why even bother to question my faith? The least I would want to do is to get into an argument with you, as the Bible says ‘The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit,’ but I wouldn’t want you to think that I am ‘literally hanging on a disputable strand of fragile belief or faith’ – Here’s the thing my brother, before I can answer these apparent atrocities of God that you mentioned, you have to agree that God does exist otherwise you are accusing someone or something nonexistent, right? So I do believe that you believe that there is God but that you are trying so hard to convince yourself there isn’t, trying so hard to suppress the truth. You accuse me of glossing over my fairytale book and only parroting out the nice verses and that I left out the gory ones, please read Ezekiel all over again, the entire chapter 8 to be exact, you missed the whole point. God being sovereign and omniscient sees the whole picture, and He knows what’s in our hearts. ‘Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! “Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?” “Who has ever given to God, that God should repay them?” For from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be the glory forever! Amen’. There was so much sin in the temple it had to be destroyed. Sodom and Gomorrah had the same fate, the things that people did in that city were so abjectly evil there was no way forward. (There are so many great Christian apologetic sites that you can visit to delve on this matter further). The truth is you try to deny God but his prints are everywhere, the evidences that He indeed is GOD are everywhere – the fact that you questioned God’s killing (your morality, your ‘konsensya’– ‘so God created man in his own image…) does affirm there is an authority, a supreme law giver in this world.’ Jesus is the only truth, the way and the life– apart from him we are nothing. ‘Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. They will say of me, ‘In the LORD alone are deliverance and strength.All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame’

      • tamumd

        Hahahaha..how sad even your replies and rebuttal are verbatimly lifted from your holy book. This shows the folly and the total surrender of reason of the religious nut jobs. They cease to think for themselves and just parrot out what’s in that fairytale book as if it’s the word of some omnipotent deity when in fact are the words of vindictive human minds. You cannot be quoting the same book to justify and prove the existence of you god coz that’s what we’re disputing in the first place. lol

        Where and when did I ever say that I believe in what you believe that there exists a god? How can questioning something already prove its existence? Are you telling me since I also don’t believe in a gnome or a tooth fairy that I believe on them? No way..that doesn’t make any sense at all. SO I don’t agree the existence of you god. Again those gory ideas I mentioned are ideas of religious nut jobs who wrote the bible. It was their ideas and desire, their hatred to those other people that don’t share what they believe in reflected and projected as the will of a deity. You can read the whole Chapter 8 of Ezekiel forward or backwards, it doesn’t change the picture at all. It still gory and gruesome. Those are murderous and infanticidal and genocidal ideas only human minds are capable of.

        If you justify that those people in that Ezekiel story were justified to be killed..then you are no different than the Talibans of Afghanistan or the suicide bombers that kill people in the name of Islam. This is why religion is a very dangerous proposition when it gets out of hand and followed literally by orthodoxy and crazy people.

        So since you’re the one claiming that you god exist…prove to us that he/she/it really does! You said “everywhere”…where? how? when?

        Again by questioning something doesn’t mean I believe on that something automatically. Go back to my tooth fairy analogy. So again I don’t care what your bible says….coz you’re only selectively reciting the nice verses and leaving out the not so nice ones. You have to present extra biblical evidence to prove the existence of your god and that of christ.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        a “very good loaded question”…, “tamumd”.

        anong say mo “InChristAlone_75″…?

  • turin55555

    “In his turno en contra speech, Sotto said providing care for women
    needing postabortion complications could pave the way for unscrupulous
    doctors and midwives to conduct abortions in the open.”

    I believe Sotto is unaware or,  worse, ignorant  on the exact meaning of abortion. I think the abortion that he only knows is the criminal/induced abortion. Does he even know that a great number of abortion happens spontaneously?

    Why on earth would you obstruct the act of providing post-abortion care when this very act saves the life of a woman? So saving lives now could lead a doctor or a midwife to commit crime like inducing abortion? Post-abortion care is a life-saving act. Where is the logic on his statement?

    • superpilipinas

      Narrow-mindedness makes people miss the point and the context.

      Let me explain. Sotto is not against that post-abortion care. He is against specifically referencing the word abortion since it is unnecessary. It is unnecessary since by default, women should be given care for any life threatening reproductive health problems. By explicitly adding the word post-abortion care, it will be used by unscrupulous doctors and midwives to justify abortion….”Sige magbayad ka na, kayurin na kita at gilingin na natin yan, sorry na lang pag may kumplikasyon, itatakbo ka na lang sa ospital tutal sabi sa RH gagamutin ka.”

      • turin55555

        “Sige magbayad ka na, kayurin na kita at gilingin na natin yan, sorry na
        lang pag may kumplikasyon, itatakbo ka na lang sa ospital tutal sabi sa
        RH gagamutin ka.”

        These are the words of a narrow-minded person. Foremost, no Filipino doctor who practices here in the Philippines would ever touch (abort or kayurin as you said) a live fetus (less than 20 weeks old) in a mother’s womb. It is a crime to do so. The RH bill even reiterates that it is a crime.

  • andrew lim

    In the latest SWS survey, Pnoy gets a high approval rating of 77%, a rise of 14 points from the last one.

    Weigh in on the RH bill, Mr President! There is political capital to spend!

    • boypalaban

       sabihan mo rin na ipakulong na niya yung idol mo na si gloria at renaTONG…

      • andrew lim

        where did you get the idea that i am pro gloria and corona?  check raissa robles blog. i was the one who exposed cuevas’ participation in that 1986 coup against cory.

        check the same blog and look at my posts on the corona trial specially the day the decision was handed down.

        if my post on enrile makes you think that way, my point was this:

         unlike many, enrile’s decision on the corona trial did not endear him to me. he is still the berdugo ng martial law. it did not change. hanggang thank you lang sya sa kin.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        I like your posting this…, very much.
        Specially your stand on other issues…, except..,
        Your stand against the RH.
        Peace.

    • bibing2011

      I am pro-noynoy, but i am ANTI-RH Bill!

      Si Pontius Pilate “Pilato” ganun rin sikat nung araw…

      Ang epekto ng immoralidad ay hindi lang po 6-years, kundi buong-buhay. Pero ang poverty, magsikap ka lang, aahon ka.

  • Fulpol

    RH Bill will just become a little amendments of the earlier laws on population and other related laws on reproductive health.. 

    what is the point of passing RH Bill.. just dump it, once and for all.

    don’t shelve it.. dump it.. so that no Congressman or Senator will bring it back again..

    is there still any “motivation” to pass the law? like billions to fund the distribution of contraceptives? i bet, there is.. millions of poor… like those receiving the CCT of Dinky Soliman… how many billions of CCT plus billions of contraceptives?

    • damatannapo

      Iisa lang buhay partner gawing mong kasiya siya ito

      Be optimistic and look at the bright side of Life

      do not dwell in the dark 

      live life

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5GRTCH676OFEK7ELOJBBA6EMCE Bonifacio Aquino

    TIME-OUT MUNA SA RH BILL! I-REFERENDUM NA LANG YAN. THIS IS EXTREMELY URGENT. CALLING SEN. SOTTO AND CAYETANO!  THERE IS A NEED FOR A SENATE AND CONGRESSIONAL SENATE INQUIRY INTO THE ALLEGED ILLEGAL “RAID” BY USEC RICO PUNO OF THE ROBREDO’S CONDO UNIT AND NAPOLCOM OFFICE TO LOOK FOR SOME “SENSITIVE” DOCUMENTS A DAY AFTER SEC JESS’ PLANE CRASHED. HMMMM. I SMELL SOMETHING FISHY HERE. DI BA SI SEC ROBREDO AY MAY ON-GOING INVESTIGATIONS SA KANYANG DOMAIN  AT SI USEC PUNO ANG MAY HAWAK SA MGA POLICE AT DUMADAMI NA NGAYON ANG MGA PULIS NA KRIMINAL (“HULIDAP”;  PROTECTOR NG HUWETENG. DRUG DENS, GAMBLING AT DRUG LORDS, CAR-NAPPERS, KIDNAPPERS, HOLD-UPPERS, ETC.). MAR ROXAS, INGAT!!! 

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    • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

      Whoa!!!. Sana Mali ang iniisip mo, Pero kung tama ang hinala mo, meron dapat I-castrate.

  • Ferdinand Poe

    NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF AMENDMENT/S OR CHANGE/S IN THE PROVISIONS OF THE PENDING RH BILL ARE STILL NOT GUARANTEE THAT ABORTION AND USED OF CONTRACEPTIVE WILL CEASE OR BE AVOIDED AS THE SAYING GOES THAT RUNS THUS: “CURIOSITY KILLS THE CAT”!>????

    • boypalaban

       isang milyon man na condom, isang milyon man na batas…walang silbi yan sa walang balak magplano ng maayos na pamilya at kung kukurakutin din lang ang pondo ng mga “napaka-concern ” na mga pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno…

      • Ronald_18

        Isang milyong Pilipinong katulad mo na ganyan mag isip ay wala rin silbi. Kung puro ka assumptions at negative, talagang walang asenso ang Pilipinas. Bakit, ikaw malinis ba pagkatao mo?

    • Michael Paras

      So.. you’re saying we should ban the sale of contraceptives?

  • Traditional_PINOY

    ibasura ang contraception at sex education. nakakasama sa republica!

    • reddfrog

      ibasura ang simbahang Katoliko. nakakasama sa republica! 

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        May pera sa basura…… Ay nasa Vatican na pala.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to reddfrog

        Putang ina mo intsik beho.  Dapat bigyan ng medalya ang papatay sa mga makapiling katulad mo.

      • tamumd

        What happened to your christian values and your respect for life? Now you want someone dead. Tsk, tsk!

      • IanAlera

        What happened to your non-god argument? hahaha

        You definitely cannot prove your non-god that you think is real but you admit to be non-existent. hahaha — si tamumd nahilo hahaha

      • tamumd

        You have not proven the existence of your god….the onus is on you to prove it. Not me.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to tamumd

        I will prove to you that God exists only if you admit sincerely that you want to know God.

        Your non-god theory gets you a grade of a BIG FAT ‘0’.  hahaha

      • tamumd

        If you can convince me that there’s a god..why not? Until then the onus if proving his existence in your side.

        Oh this is no school….so I dunno why you started assigning grades now.

      • IanAlera

        Yes, this is no school, but it is evident you need to get some education regarding things you know little about.

      • tamumd

        Well…go ahead and educate us!!! Prove that your god exists.

    • angtangamo

       isa kang ignoramus. ikaw ang ibasura at nakakasama ka sa republica. bobo!

    • Michael Paras

      Maraming pamilyang Pilipino na mahirap dati ang may magandang buhay ngayon dahil na control nila ang dami ng kanilang mga anak gamit ang contraceptives. Isa na jan ang pamilya namin. Kung gusto mong bumalik sa dark ages, wag mo na kami isama.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to Michael Paras

        Nonsense.  Kung gusto mo ng sex education para sa sarili mo o sa anak mo, gawin mo.  Wala karapatan ang mga leaders ng bansa na i-impose iyan sa anak ng ibang tao

      • Michael Paras

        Di naman mandatory eh. Isang tinitignan nila gawing amendment sa bill ay para i turo ang sex ed sa mga bata na may permission galing sa magulang. Tsaka konti lang ang magulang na nag oopen up sa mga anak nila tungkol sa sex. Mas mabuti din na ipaubaya ito sa mga taong mas nakakaalam tungkol sa sex, pati na yung mga related areas nito tulad ng family planning, STD’s, etc. Kung ako lang tatanungin, mas gusto ko mga magulang na lang ang mag turo sa mga anak nila, pero hindi mangyayari ito dahil sa kultura na ng tao. Di lang sa Pilipinas. Iniiwasang topic sa madaming pamilya ang usapan tungkol sa sex kapag kaharap na ang mga anak.

  • boypalaban

     punta ka na sa mga biktima ng lindol, baha…at mga maysakit ng
    leptospirosis, dengue,sa mga halos mamatay na sa gutom…etc…mamigay
    ka na ng condom at contraceptives…lecture ka na tungkol sa RH Bill…

  • boypalaban

     punta ka na sa mga biktima ng lindol, baha…at mga maysakit ng
    leptospirosis, dengue,sa mga halos mamatay na sa gutom…etc…mamigay
    ka na ng condom at contraceptives…lecture ka na tungkol sa RH Bill…

  • kilabot

    the prostitutes asking intervention and guidance from the pimp. pinheads.

    don’t let the pimp influence you. choose for yourself:
    1) vote Yes to rh bill if you want 17B of taxpayer money spent on artificial contraceptives (pill, condom, iud, dild0, vibrat0r, etc) and given free to the poor, lgbt, atbp.. if you believe this is the right solution to poverty;
    2) vote No if you want 17B of taxpayer money invested on skills and livelihood for the poor. if you believe in teaching the poor how to fish rather than giving them fish all the time. and when they work and have something to eat, they won’t have sex for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. thus, smaller family.

    ( the rh bill is like the pimp teaching morality to prostitutes.)

    No to rh bill.

    • damatannapo

      nice wala na yong LGBT na pinasikat mo

    • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

      DlLdo and Vlbrator? LOL. Magagalit sayo ang mga anti RH, nawalan na nga sila ng credibility dahil Kay sotto.

      • damatannapo

        walang ideya iyan, dati nga may post yan na requirements ng LGBT ang birth control

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        LOL. Naloko na. Well Atleast I’m happy dahil lahat ng sectors ng lipunan ay narerepresent parin sa senate. Sotto represents Kilabot.

    • damatannapo

      oops error ako
      may LGBT pa rin
      consistent ka talaga partner

    • Ronald_18

      If that’s what you believe in, then the prostitutes must be thankful to their pimp. At least, they have a concern on their welfare like unwanted pregnancy and promote safe sex. RH Bill are not encouraging having multiple sex partners, but put into perspective family planning that is inefficient to the majority of Filipino.

      Currnetly there are people who have multiple sexual partners and can get contraceptives and condoms either in drugstores, supermarket, etc. Approval of this bill means the poor can avail these free of charge. That may lead to address poverty in our country.

      • bibing2011

         Sir, libre na po ang contraceptives sa health center.punta ka lang dun, bigyan ka nila…di na po kailangan ang RH Bill.

        there’s no such thing as “safe sex” sir.ok lang po ba sayo sir anak mo nakipag-sex basta di lang magkasakit or mabuntis? Morality Bill ang kailangan Sir!

    • Michael Paras

      The amendment stated in the above article already showed that the bill is now leaning on providing free contraceptives to those who really can’t afford them, not just to anyone who would want to avail of these.

      This I think, will tremendously uplift the lives of the desperately needy families who are prone to producing more offspring than they can feed, much less educate.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to Michael Paras

        Desperately needy families need food, medicines, skills, job opportunities.  Kailangan ng pag-pupursigi sa sarili – hindi kondom o pills.

      • Michael Paras

        Binibigyan na sila. Kulang pa din ito. Kung 6 ang anak mo at di mo kaya pag aralin, malamang masusundan pa ito. Aasa na lang ba ang mga mahihirap na pamilya sa hand outs galing sa gobyerno o charities? Mas mabuti mag simula silang tugunan ang problema kung bakit sila naghihirap, at yun ay dahil napakadami nilang anak na di nila kaya suportahan. Di ko maintindihan kung bakit di mo makuha na isa sa mga problema kung bakit patuloy na naghihirap ang mga mahihirap ay dahil anak sila ng anak. Madali lang sabihin na makinig kayo sa turo ng Diyos, o disiplinahin ang sarili, pero mahirap itong gawin. Ang pinagkaiba lang ng karamihan sa mga middle class na konti lang ang anak at sa mga mahihirap na madaming anak ay ang access sa artificial methods. Wag na tayo mag bulagbulagan at sabihin na kaya lang 2 o 3 ang anak ng isang may kayang pamilya ay dahil nag abstain sila o gumamit ng natural means. Clearly di ito ang nangyayari, dahil kung ganun na nga, di na natin kelangan ng contraceptives.

        Kahit mag pursigi ang isang pamilya na mahirap, kung isa o kalahating dosena naman ang anak nila, mahihirapan sila makaraos sa paghihirap. Kahit bigyan mo ng livelihood ang magulang, kung minimum wage lang ang kikitain at napakadaming anak, pano mo pagkakasyahin ang income nila?

  • boypalaban

     punta ka na sa mga biktima ng lindol, baha…at mga maysakit ng
    leptospirosis, dengue,sa mga halos mamatay na sa gutom…etc…mamigay
    ka na ng condom at contraceptives…lecture ka na tungkol sa RH Bill…

    • Ronald_18

      Ikaw na lang ang pumunta. Tanga ka pala, ano naman ang kinalaman ng mga taong nabiktima nang ganong sakit? Ang taong mabibiktima ng lindol at lepto ay biktima ng natural calamities. In fact, kung malinis ang kapaligiran at hindi nagtatapon ng mga basura ang mga squatter na sobra dami ng anak, madali ma contain ang sakit na maidudulot nito.

      Tungkol naman sa dengue, hindi ba’t mayroon nang programa ang gobyerno dito? Huwag mong dalhin ang issue dito, dahil lahat ng tao ay gumagawa ng paraan. Yung naman mamatay sa gutom, dapat paliwanagan tungkol sa family planning. Karamihan sa mahihirap ay marami silang anak na pakalatkalat sa kalye.

      Kung ganyan ang katiwiran mo ay malamang walang progreso kang maasahan sa buhay mo.

      • boypalaban

        punta ka na doon tanga…wag ka nang tumunganga… tatanga tanga ka pa diyan engot!

      • boypalaban

        “Yung naman mamatay sa gutom, dapat paliwanagan tungkol sa family planning.”

        O sige punta ka na…ang dami sa kalye…sermunan mo…tanga!

    • damatannapo

      Partner 57 na ako at mga year 2000 ko lang natutunan ang dengue at leptospirosis

      noon walang nakakaalam ng kung ano ang dengue/lepto bukod sa mga taong taga ospital dahil hindi yan pangkaraniwang balita kumpara ngayon

      ang sanhi ng dengue/lepto ay kulang sa kalinisan dahil marami na po tayo at nagsisiksikan na

  • boypalaban

     ano ang pakiramdam ng uto uto sa mga pulitiko?

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    I hope a catholic nun or priest will explain to me what’s wrong with contraceptives based on personal experience. As of now, the church is painting unicorns based on African cave paintings from postcards collected from dead popes.

    • kapatad

       Payo ko sa iyo, puntahan mo si Fr. Melvin Castro sa CBCP, kung Catholic ka punta ka sa Kura Paroko mo at naghihintay siya sa iyo at sasagutin niya sa loob ng 10 oras ang iyong mga katanungan.

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        LOL. Pwede!

  • damatannapo

    1 Corinthians 3:17  If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are the temple

    Reminder lang lalo na po sa mga Kristyanong anti RH bill. Naninigarilyo ka ba, ang sasakyan mo ba ay totoong nakapasa sa smoke belching? malakas ka bang uminom ng softdrinks, puro ma fatty ba ang hilig mo? malakas ka bang uminom ng alak? madalas ka bang puyat sa mga gimikan? marami at malakas kang kumain ng kanin ba?

    • kapatad

       di ko makita ang connection sa issue ng RH Bill. Mayroon lamang mga provision sa RH Bill ang kinokontra ng mga anti- Rh Bill na ito. Sabi ni Sotto hindi na kailangan maging batas ito dahil may mga present laws na maaring ng tumugon sa problema na gustong resolbahin ni Sen Pia. Ang kailangan lamang ay implementasyon.

      • damatannapo

        ang pro RH ay pro life and if your pro life do you espouse to keep your body healthy too the way the Lord teaches us

      • damatannapo

        Consistency lang “kapatad”
        parang your talking of something but do otherwise naman
        so useless ang laban ng Pro Life if may bisyo siya na nakakasira ng katawan ng isang tao

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AAOVVIQX5TC6E7DYDCIPAIFMZE sircon2

    basta ako yessssssssssss sa RH BILL 

  • http://www.angdabawenyo.com Blogie Robillo

    Isn’t it against the Constitution what these so-called legislators are doing, wanting to consult Catholic bishops?

    • Bayan Panona

       It is since churches are separate from the state.. they are just afraid they will not win next election if they don’t do that.

    • Rae_E

      Definitely unconstitutional

      • damatannapo

        In a way ayon sa konstitusyon yan sa palagay ko dahil may representation  
        ang pagkukulang lang diyan 
        paano naman ang ibang sekta?

    • kapatad

      Filipino Catholic Bishop have also their constitutioanl rights like yours. They have the right their to express their voice pursuant to that right given to them by our present Constitution. So please respect their rights!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

        Constitutional Rights…, NOT TO PAY TAXES..?

      • angtangamo

         Ha? yes they do have their rights, but they don’t have a right to force their beliefs on everyone!

      • Ronald_18

        They were out of line. Did you consider to think the way Soc Villegas addressed the crowd in EDSA during their prayer rally? It’s for these Filpino Priest to accept that times have changed. People have a free will to choose whatever they want.

        After voicing their stand in the RH Bill during Sunday Mass, they should refrain from talking to media and threatened lawmakers, that will approve this bill…and that’s harrassment.

      • vinzerx

        So why aren’t they consulting me? I have the same rights as those bishops (and I possibly put in more taxes than they do, technically), but they never come to my office and talk to me about the bill.

        Where’s the respect for MY rights?

    • reddfrog

       Wait until all the other hundreds of religions demand to be consulted.

      • Guest

        Maybe we should make a cha-cha and create a third chamber representing all the religions of this country.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

    Provide them with free television sets and deter them from watching each other everyday…

    • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

      Iyan ang isa Kong ipinagtataka sa simbahan, Bakit Hindi nila kinokontra yung mga gumigiling sa mga palabas sa TV sa tanghali. Mga damit palang ng mga dancers eh Talaga namang tsk tsk tsk. Kung totoong pro spiritual divinity itong sila bishop Bakit Hindi nila sitahin?

  • cooldoods

    Ok naman yung mga amendments if only to remove fear and doubt in some people’s minds. Approve nyo na yan.

  • joanne velasco

    Ibigay natin ang pagkakataon sa mga Senador na gawin ang kanilang trabaho. Umasa na lamang tayo na ang kalalabasan nito ay syang makakabuti sa ating Bansa. 

  • joanne velasco

    Narinig na natin ang argumento ng magbilang panig sa isyu ng RH Bill, sana ay mabigyang pansin at magawa ang nararapat na hakbang para sa kapakanan ng mamamayang pilipino.

  • Beguine

    Might as well drop and forget about the RH bill if what
    they’ll end up with is contrary to what the RH bill is supposed to do
    and accomplish, i.e., dramatically and drastically stop
    the extremely rapid population growth.

    The people ought to and would get their revenge on these
    senators. The people are now well aware more than ever
    that if you have stupid senators all you get is stupid
    decision-making.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

    The Philippines’ competitiveness ranking up by 10 notches, said Inquirer yesterday. That’s without RH bill. Yeheeey

    • vinzerx

      Those two pieces of news items aren’t even related. The bill was never intended as a solution to economic growth. Learn to read beyond headlines and what the church feeds you. Thanks.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

        I don’t read beyond headlines. I just read period. The Hon. Edcel Lagman says that “we need an RH law to effectuate people’s right to sustainable human development”

      • damatannapo

        your limiting yourself development is long term and broad,you must manage it well

        how about those that contribute in mitigating the fast track development
        just neglect it? ba?

      • boypalaban

         Edcel Lagman is not honorable…he has 7 children who all eat through corrupt activities of their corrupt father….

      • Luciano G Coson

        Vinerx, it is good to read up also on Church history afterall they invented the Scientific Method and the university system. It is you that chooses to remain ignorant!

      • damatannapo

        but the RC church is not infallible as what they claim

        the church is after all subject to errors too

    • Michael Paras

      Imagine how many more points our ranking would gain if we pass the RH bill? Yehey! Pass the bill!

      • boypalaban

          pasalamat ka rin sa mga pulitikong kurakot….

      • Michael Paras

        Kahit walang RH bill may mga pulitikong kurakot pa din boypalaban…

    • AgapitoBagumbayan

      We could have been up atleast 30 notches, if RH bill was approved 10 years ago.

      • boypalaban

         pasalamat ka rin sa mga pulitikong kurakot….

  • Oliver82

    PASS THE FULL VERSION OF THE BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • boypalaban

       sige mamigay ka na ng condom sa biktima ng kalamidad…bilis!

  • marionics

    he he deadlock according to jinggoy lang pala e

  • Oliver82

    These senators don’t have the balls to pass the bill because all they just want is winning the next election if they go with the will of the church on RH Bill…… too obvious… mga kababayan mgisip2 na kayo. Manong Johnny No. 1 ka! Your time is up.

    • Luciano G Coson

      Oliver, if your mother practiced contraception, you may have never been born to excersie your freedom to post!

      • tamumd

        SO what difference if his parents used artificial contraception versus NFP? BOth of them are contraception. He would have not been around either way. Even the sperm that comes out when you polish your carrot end up the same. lol

      • Oliver82

         what make you so sure Mr. Luciano G Coson? Tell that to the Millions of Filipinos.. Huwag mgmalinis brod.. sigurado kang hindi ka gumamit din nito? be sure to be clean when your start pointing fingers to others.. topic lng ito sa post, don’t make fun of others by example just to sending your point.

  • Rae_E

    Engage the bishops in TWG when they’re the very ones who viciously lobbied in congress to derail the RH bill for 14 years? Most importantly whatever happened to the separation of church & state? Are Filipinos really this spineless that we can’t uphold our constitution? It’s high time for congress & PNoy to defend the constitution. Give marching orders on RH bill PNoy & uphold the separation of state & church, our freedom of conscience & our freedom of choice. In the developed countries, churches & politicians imposing their beliefs can never do these blatant violations for they will be charged & held liable in courts pronto.

    • Luciano G Coson

      It’s sad that you equate being spineless because you fear the Church or worse yet equate being spineless to taking stand against the bill. It takes a strong spine to defend your beliefs amidst a plethora of beliefs out there mostly dictated by the West so we Filipinos can decrease in population! It takes a strong spine to stand and defend your faith even to the point of death as Lorenzo Ruiz and Pedro Calungsod has done!! If you want to suffer the demographic winter that Spain, Italy, and even Singapore is suffering now go ahead! Think with your brain before you succumb to what your loins dictate!!

      • tamumd

        And your belief is not imported from the west? Remember our native religion before the Spaniards arrived were animism and islam. So don’t say “belief out there mostly dictated by the west”. Hahahaha it sound noble to consider the death of Ruiz and Calungsod as defending the faith. Did it ever occur to you that the native Chamorros and Japanese could have also been defending their faith and from foreign invasion? After all those people did not come to the Philippines to kill Ruiz and Calungsod.

        YOu don’t have a shred of evidence to your so-called demographic winter that happened in those places would also happen to us. It’s largely speculative. The factors in those places are completely different from ours. Everyone had to be affluent first before you even consider those and we’re very far away from that happening.

      • Rae_E

        So the anti-RH have backbone for standing against the bill while the 70-80% who favors the bill are spineless or can’t think on their own since they’re influence by the West?Amazing duplicity. Nobody needs the West to realize the glaring realities that 1/3 of our people live in misery & poverty, that maternal & infant deaths happen because they can no longer afford have big families. The educated & can afford has been taking contraceptives for they know they can’t have quality of life if they live beyond their means why deprive the poorest they same opportunity? Btw as tamund pointed out your religion was imposed to us by the Spain_Rome too so don’t impose it on us too. I assure you like most Filipinos Im using by brain that’s why we’re standing against the Church hypocrisy & deceit. Demographic winter? you care about the unconceived & speculations but not about actual lives dying, in misery or poverty?  Sure you’re free to die for your faith dictated by men who do not even preach the biblical gospel but don’t impose it on us.

  • kilabot

    which of the following will help alleviate poverty?
     1) give free artificial birth control contraceptives (aka 17B rh bill) to control population growth;
     2) use of natural birth control techniques (aka hit-n-run) to control population growth;
     3) encourage people to practice a life of celibacy (aka meat-fasting) to control population growth;
     4) practice lgbt lifestyle (aka anal_izing) and have zero population growth;
     5) perpetual implementation of the cct (aka eternal-beggar) program;
     6) train the poor acquire skills and livelihood (aka senseful) using the rh budget + cct fund ( >17B total);

    and you say?

    • dodong1

      all of the above…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WMGV7SUR6JAXK6YPBL5LWPTXPE Edgar

    Tanung ko lang po, kung talagang hindi magkakaroon at susunod ang abortion pag naipasa na itong RH bill. Sakali po bang pumalya o nag failed ang condom o pills at nabuntis pa rin at ayun din naman sa mga studies ang mga batang me deformities eh kadahilanan nung nagbubuntis na either gumamit ng pills, drugs etc. At kung kami na gumamit nung pills eh ayaw naming ituloy ang pagbubuntis dahil baka me deformities lang ang bata, diba po ba baka ipa abort na lang ang bata.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

      Valid question po iyan. We cannot say 100 percent sure na “hindi susunod ang abortion”. Si US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton mismo ang nagsabi na “reproductive health includes access to abortion.” My source: google search Foreign Affairs Committee Hearing 2009 and the exchange between Rep Smith and Secretary Clinton. You will find many materials in google quoting the hearing.

      • tamumd

        Hahahaha..Risa but she said that while in Canada where abortion is legal. It is also legal in the states. We have on the other hand anti-abortion laws which is upheld by the RH bill.

    • Ganymede

      Baka naman buntis na sila nagpipills pa rin.. kata-ngahan na po yun.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVSQ3H4V5NRMKSVAJSP4PXQFEM Nicknick

    Ikaw ang tanga! You do not seem to know the issues involved. Buti pa, you keep your mouth shut! BOBO!!!

    • Oliver82

       Wag mong pansinin brad.. may bading na nagpapansin.

    • marionics

      he he dehin na pinapatulan yan at walong taon gulang yan na binigyan ng pera para mag internet shop

    • Luciano G Coson

      typical colonial mentality to think aid from the West will cure all your population ills!!! Read up on what the World Health Organization says about the harmful effects of contraceptioves!

      • damatannapo

        then read also articles on over population problems

  • sked482

    Si Jinggoy lang pala nagsabing evenly split. Nagtatalo talo pa tong mga senador sa dami ng numero. Pagbotohan na para malaman na kung ilan, para malaman na kung maipapasa o maibabasura.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

      Kailangan kasi may konting pag-iisip muna bago bumoto. Intelligent voting ba.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVSQ3H4V5NRMKSVAJSP4PXQFEM Nicknick

    Binayaran ka ni plagiarist Sotto, no? Ikaw ang Bobo!

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Suarez or Arguelles? Hahahahaha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVSQ3H4V5NRMKSVAJSP4PXQFEM Nicknick

     To administration, pwede bang i-block ang bobong ito? Wala naman kinocontribute na matino sa issue.

    • marionics

      subukan mo i-flag. gumagana naman yata yun paminsanminsan. baka ma tsambahan mo he he

  • jeff justice

    wag maramot sa kondom….isang bata ang kapalit kung wala.

    mas mura ang kondom kaysa bata….lahat tayo ay makikinabang kung
    sapat lang ang tao sa ating bansa.

    wag sanang magswapang ang simbahan. lahat tayo magdudusa kung
    maraming swapang.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

      Bumili ka na lang kaya? Bakit kailangan mo ng bagong batas para magka condom ka? Bili ka sa Mercury Drug… Kung nakikita mo na swapang ang simbahan, mag ka na lang mag swapang sa pera mo, gamitin mo sa condon.

      • Ganymede

        Tange! wala ngang pambili e yun mga mahihirap nating kababayan e… pero hindi mapigilan.. mas malaking problema kung mag aanak pa sila.. mas madaming gastusin.. mabuti na yun mapigilan sa una pa lang wala pa silang ma aabort. Hindi mo naisip yun ano? :P

      • boypalaban

        dapat isa ka rin sa fina-flag ng mga balat sibuyas dito…
        hilig mo magmura…
        pero pag kayong mga proRh ang sinasabihan nang ganyan…atungal bata kayo….

      • Michael Paras

        Yung gusto lang namin i flag dito si Herbert David. Tignan mo naman pinagkaiba ng posts nila ni Mang_Teban. Napakalayo. Kung nasabihan akong “tange” ng isang beses di naman ako ma iinsulto. Sasagutin ko na lang. Pero pano mo masasagot ng maayos si Herbert eh puro one/two liners mga ni post?

    • bibing2011

       libre na po ang condom etc . punta ka lang health center…kaya di na po kailangan ang RH Bill. But they still want it?something fishy here…

      • Ganymede

        Hindi po libre… ni ban nga yan ni Atienza nung mayor siya. E kung manalo siya ulit?

      • boypalaban

         maynila ba buong pilipinas na?

      • Michael Paras

        Dapat buong Pilipinas. No exceptions. Dapat ipatupad ang batas. Di yung pwede alisin ng kung sino sinong mayor. Kaya may flaws ang mga batas dati na tungkol sa reproductive health dahil walang penalty para sa mga di magpapatupad nito.

    • boypalaban

       nakumusta mo na ba mga panginoon mong pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno?

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    Section 17 of the Magna Carta of Women, or RA 9710, states that
    “access to the following services shall be ensured: “Maternal care to
    include pre- and post-natal services to address pregnancy and infant
    health and nutrition; promotion of breastfeeding, responsible, ethical,
    legal, safe, and effective methods of family planning; family and
    State collaboration in youth sexuality education and health services
    without prejudice to the primary right and duty of parents to educate
    their children;”

    “Prevention and management of reproductive tract infections,
    including sexually transmitted diseases, HIV, and AIDS; prevention and
    management of reproductive tract cancers like breast and cervical
    cancers, and other gynecological conditions and disorders; prevention
    of abortion and management of pregnancy-related complications.”

    Guidelines for the conditional cash transfer program state that “b)
    Parents / guardians must attend family planning sessions/mother’s class,
    Parent Effectiveness Service and others.”

    Section 23 of the Cheaper Medicines Law or RA 9502 includes “Drugs
    and medicines indicated for prevention of pregnancy, e.g., oral
    contraceptives” on the list of “Drugs and Medicines that are Subject to
    Price Regulation.”

    If enough laws and other govt issuances now exist to address the concerns of RH BIll why push for it and divide the nation?

    • tamumd

      The problem with Magna Carta for Women is there’s no funding and penalty provisions,therefore that piece of legislation is toothless and under the mercy of the religious nut jobs. Case in point Lito Atienza – pandering to the CBCP he completely scrapped the availability of artificial contraceptions in Manila health centers in 2000. Ayala Alabang barangay council was attempting to do the same in their affuent subdivision. There are towns in Bataan that are now following suit. So yeah with the RH bill…someone could be fined and go to jail if they try to hijack its implementation.

      • neney

        Mas appropriate siguro na i-ammend na lang ang Magna Carta for Women.

    • billy31

       very correct!!!

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    It appears the problem of the govt is executive implementation of existing laws, not passing more redundant laws like the RH Bill.

    • damatannapo

      Paano kung may mga lumabas na tulad ni Atienza at Alabang barangay officials na naglabas ng resolutions na bawal magbenta ng contraceptives muntik pa nga dumami ang gagaya kung hindi lang nasita

  • bibing2011

    ganun talaga ang tao.meron asal hayop na nakatago.lalabas ang asal hayop na yan kapag mababa na masyado ang moralidad.

    turuan natin ang tao para maging responsible.ganito ba ang kalabasan
    kung merong RH Bill?sex lang ng sex ok lang basta di
    mabuntis?ok lang basta di magkasakit?

    Nakakatakot kung ganito na ang pag-iisip ng mga anak natin!

    ang moralidad lang po ang naghiwalay sa atin sa mga hayop.kunin mo ang moralidad ng tao, hayop na tayo.

    • $25214711

      Speak for your self my brother.

    • angtangamo

       Ikaw ay isang utak biya. Isip mo lang yan brod kasi bobo ka. So dahil masmadali ang access sa condom eh magkakaroon na ng orgy sa buong Pinas? bwahahaha. Ang moralidad mo ay questionable kung ganyan ang iniisip mo.

      • bibing2011

         Hi. pasensiya na po kung hayop ang ginamit kung simbolo. (taga-bundok kasi ako, kaya sa amin maraming hayop —- yong totoong hayop ha!) Sa bayan po kasi namin, hayop lang po ang nakahubad. Sa metropolitan area (i assumed taga-metro ka), pati tao nakahubad. hahaha

        Sa metro area, ang hayop parang tao, dinadamitan.kaya lang, ang tao ay parang hayop, walang damit.hahaha.

        peace,

  • Bayan Panona

    Yes, do not pass the bill… Let’s just pray that priests solve our country’s problem with overpopulation. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

      Marami pa namang solusyon, kailangan lang pag-isipan, at isangtabi ang isyu mo sa mga pari. Halimbawa: trabaho, silid aralan, mga doctor at nurses sa health centers…

    • juan_tanga

      overpopulation na naman.

      bisitahin mo kaya mga kanayunan sa mga probinsya . . .

      kung siksikan man sa maynila at ang conclusion mo ay overpopulated na, mali yata ang premise mo.

      • angtangamo

        LOL. So ano ang premise mo? punoin muna natin ang buong Pinas bago tayo umaksyon?

      • damatannapo

        partner global problem yan

        ang  sardines na de lata nagkaubusan noong Jan hanggang may 2012 dahil wala ng mahuling tamban

        Ang langis na ginagamit natin para sa mga planta at sasakyan malapit ng maubos iyan sabi ng ilang pag aaral 50 years na lang ang itatagal pag wala ng maidadagdag na matutuklasang panibagong mga oil wells, kaya nga yong mga Tsino andyan sa tabi ng palawan at zambales

        Ang denge at lepto walang balitang ganoon noong 80s at 90s ngayon lang sumikat ito dahil sa dami ng kaso dulot ng pagdami at siksikan na tayo

        marami pa ang dulot ng over population tulad ng global warming

        Ang mga tanim binabago ang genitics pati na ang mga bubuyog gusto na ring lipulin
        para maharap ang paglakas ng kunsumo ng tao dahil ang mga natural na pagkain sa ngayon ay hindi na sapat

      • Bayan Panona

         sa probinsya ba kamo? may sapat bang kabuhayan dun kung may nagbabalak na magstay dun? i don’t think so. if we are going to talk about survival, pwede pa. pero pag access to education and job with good pay, ewan ko na lang sa probinsyang iniisip mo.

      • boypalaban

         pag natanong mo mga pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno at sinagot ka nang maayos kung saan napunta pondo saka lang ako maniniwala sa yo

      • neney

        Kabayan, iyon ang magandang proyekto at dapat pagtuunan ng pansin. Paunlarin ang ating mga probinsiya upang ma-decongest ang metro manila.

    • neney

      Kabayan, ang issue ng over population ang iniiwasang argumento ng pro-RH Bill. Have you heard the reasoning of Senator PIA kung bakit nag-ammend sila? Sabi sa statistics, pababa ang population growth rate ng Pilipinas for the past 5 years.

      • tamumd

        The drop in population growth rate is not unique to our country. In fact all over the world that has been the trend for the past 2 decades. However based on the benchmarks we’re still above them.

    • boypalaban

       punta ka muna sa mga panginoon mong pulitiko

  • tamumd

    ;-) Herbert David strikes again! You’re correct only tanga would eat a latex condom. lol

    • damatannapo

      i flag mo na lang as inappro
      baka sa dami ng flag ma ban iyan

      • tamumd

        ok..i just might.

  • billy31

    Passing new Laws without guarantee of being strictly implemented is a waste of time and tax money. Take a look at Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Laws. Only a few LGUs are implementing it and the government does not care even as such that safety of workers and the community are the number one concerns of these laws. Go to the Office of the Building Official (OBO), nalalagyan lang sila, then ok na ang Electrical and Mechanical Permits. In Metro Manila, only the City of Makati is implementing these laws. In other cities, WALA, because of politicos keeping their eyes closed even with the blatant non-compliance…pirma dito pirma doon ang mga OBO for approval with under the table fees for sure kasi non-compliant ang mga factories and buildings, etc!!! Calling the new DILG Secretary to look into these please….and include those in all the provinces and cities around the country!!! Forget about RH Bill, daming opposition nyan!

  • Michael Paras

    Herbert magsasayang ka lang ng oras mo. May “flag as inappropriate” button na kaya mas mabuti pa wag ka na mag post.

    • boypalaban

      paki-flag din yung mga proRh na bastos dito…pati pamilya
      idinadamay…binabastos…na kesyo mas nasasarapan daw kasi ang mga babeng poster na antiRH pag walng condom…etc…dami niyan…kaso pag ako kasi papalag ako sa mga bastos na
      proRH…di ako magfa-flag…

      • tamumd

        One or two maybe is excusable..but not everytime he posts. Just look around again. He has not much to contribute here but “bobo and tanga”.

      • Michael Paras

        Sige, I’ll keep that in mind. Ok lang siguro kung isang beses ka lang mang insulto, kung nadala ka ng galit. Kahit sino nangyayari yun. Pero si Herbert spammer na troll eh.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

    Why cant the bishops just explain in plain language why contraceptives is immoral and anti-life?  That should do it.  But now, theyre into statistics also and medical science which is not their field of expertise.

    • neney

      Kapatid, hindi na siguro kailangang i-explain ng bishop ito. Self-explanatory na ito. I am 100% sure that you can answer your own question. Statistics kasi ang nilalatag ng pro-RH so better to answer them with statistics also.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

        Sabi ksi ng mga bishops immoral/bad and contraceptives coz it prevents life.  They rather advise the use of natural method.  Ang d ko maintidihan ay bakit naging bad ung isa e pareho lng naman na intention is to prevent life. 

        When priests tell couples to copulate during the safe period the intention is to prevent life. Anti-life dn yan, d ba?  Pero ala pa kong nababasang explanation dto ng mga bishops.  So kelangang i-explain, d ba kapatid?
            

  • angtangamo

     galit ka? LOL.

  • joanne velasco

    Umaasa ako na magkakasundo at magtatagpo sa IISANG LAYUNIN ang mga Pro at Anti RH Bill,   ang protektahan ang sambayanang Pilipino. Ang panukalang ito ay napaka-sensitibo, sana ay mapakinabangan ito ng lahat sakaling maisabatas.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UXJTQVWGRR7RZ2AKPT77IOCZQQ Romeo

    nonsense ang rh bill.. bat tayo nagfofocus sa rh bill na to e merong mas importatnteng dapat asikasuhin dito.. nasa tao ang desisyon kung gusto na niang magkaron ng anak at sariling pamilya!wala na kayong pakialam dun!

    • neney

      Oo nga kabayan..sabi nila dati, kung walang corrupt – walang mahirap, di ba? Bakit RH Bill? Tapos ini-snub nila ang Freedom of Information Bill na siyang makakatulong to address problems related to corruption.

      • boypalaban

        mabubuking na ang pondong bilyon bilyon ay para lang pala kay lagman, cayetano family, hontiveros, syjuco, tongressman, mayor, governor, kagawad, konsehal, kapitan, SK chairman…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EOAUME5VALD2NH5D2ZDSTXR2KU Micheale

    walang kwenta nag rh bill na to! ibasura na agad!
     

  • JiyoonMin

    Tumulong muna na kasi muna kayo ng buo mga taong ayaw sa RH bill tignan kulang kung di kayo manawa at mainis sa walang hanggang problema ng pamilyang hikahos pero hagdan ang mga anak.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AEJRD6WPI4ETX2DTWVCSP2Q43I Risa Mendez

      Tumutulong naman. At hindi naiinis sa problema ng ibang pamilya. Kase kung may kagustuhan tumulong, hindi mo gugustuhin mawala na lang lahat ng maraming anak. Anak ka rin siguro at magilang din?

    • boypalaban

      kumustahin mo panginoon mong pulitiko at opisyal ng gobyerno….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

    Typical bishop

    • tamumd

      Neil ignore him at paki flag as inappropriate na lang.

      • boypalaban

        kapag kayo nambabastos ok lang?
        walang advice galing sa yo na dapat i-flag?

      • tamumd

        Show me where did I ever call someone bobo or tanga repeatedly? Herbert David’s words are like that all the time. He cannot even discuss the merit of his arguments but profanities.

      • boypalaban

         sinabi ko bang ikaw?
        sinabi ko bang i-flag mo sarili mong komento?

      • tamumd

        You said “kayo”…that’s plural..meaning me included.

    • boypalaban

      typical uto uto ng pulitiko

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JZJHJGRN6KLEVBR3XN7WHOVQAY neil

    Typical anti-RH

    • damatannapo

      i flag mo as inappro….
      iyong nga previous post ni herbert unti unting na bubura

      • boypalaban

        basahin mo yung post ni Ronald_18…puro mura din…pare pareho lang….

      • tamumd

        Ronald_18..wala nga akong mahanap. Baka iisa lang. So I found 3 posts of Ronald_18 in response to your rejoinders, however he only uttered the word “tanga” once. And in fact he is presenting alot of info in his arguments evidence by a long rejoinder. Herbert david on the other hand only makes short single sentence reponses mostly composed of “bobo and tanga”.

    • boypalaban

      basahin mo yung post ni Ronald_18…puro mura din…pare pareho lang….
      pero ganunpaman …wala sa ayos yang batas ng kurapsiyon…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LHE2MIZ6X3CMOIMXMZPUH55RO4 Halle

    hagdan hagdan ang ank?!bakit kung may rh bill ba mapipigil nio ba to?!kung para sayo talaga ang bata..sayo un walang makakpigil! kasalanan lang ang rh bill na to!

    • angtangamo

      Bumalik ka nga sa kweba mo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! bakit di ka bumalik sa kweba ng tenga mo bobo!

      • Bidang

        Tanga ka rin bobo…

  • Bayan Panona

     oooh, may umepal na matalino.

    • damatannapo

       i flag mo as inaapro si herbert

      may mga ilang post na yang na delete dito ngayon

      • boypalaban

        paki=flag din yung mga proRh na bastos dito…pati pamilya idinadamay…dami niyan…kaso ako kasi papalag ako sa mga bastos na proRH…di ako magfa-flag….

      • tamumd

        Just look around right now…who is consistently uttering “bobo” “tanga”?

  • neney

    Tanong lang po..biodegradeable ba ang condom? Eco-friendly ba iyan?

    • angtangamo

       They are not. But there are ones that claim to be… Even if everyone in the Phils used condoms I doubt they would make any impact in our landfills or would contribute to our garbage problem. I don’t think it would even reach 1% of the total garbage disposed of in the Phils even if they were free. I would rather that than a child with nothing to eat.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! kahit 1% lang yan , basura pa rin yan bobo!

      • Bidang

        Tnaga ka rin uto-uto ka at nagpapagamit sa mga corrupt at pedophiles na pari at obispo…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! palibhasa nasarapan ka sa mga pedophiles kaya nasiraan na ang ulo mo bobo!

  • $29897073

    Buhay ka pa! Animaaal ka

    • boypalaban

       di mo kaya sa asaran yang si herbert david

      • marionics

        he he tindi ng bata mo pre. isasama mo ba yan sa inuman natin? puede rin para may mapagkatuwaan tayo hahaha

      • sked482

        Tingin ko pro-RH yang bata eh. Hehehe.

      • marionics

        he he yun ba tingin mo? hahaha

      • sked482

        Parang si sotto lang, minsan parang pro-rh na dahil sa kapalpakan. Hehehe.

      • boypalaban

        …iniisip ko pa….
        kasama si sked482 pero iced tea lang daw siya at softdrinks…(baka chaser niya yun…hehehe)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

      Buhay ka pa! Hayooop ka!

  • $29897073

    Herbert David – Bakit nandito ka pa di ba sinundo ka ni Taning?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JOG3WG5CRIZRYPWDLFD5USBLA Marcjacob

    Like Halle! diba nga ang pag babago nag sisimula sa sarili? how can u change someone else if they themselves don’t really do what is right?? WHEN I CHANGE, EVERYTHING CHANGES! THAT’S REALITY.

  • angtangamo

     ibahin mo naman yung mga response mo. nakakasawa ka na eh. chaka bakit laging galit ka? siguro inabuso ka nung bata ka pa noh?

  • madallison

    I don’t know what the big fuss is all about, it’s not religion or the population but simple common sense.  Those who can’t afford to feed their children 3 square meals a day should not have any more children.  They should be responsible enough and love their children enough to realize if they can only feed 2 decently then they should only have 2.  

    They should be able to go the their health center and ask for help in understanding the many different family planning methods and choose which one they prefer.  If they want natural then fine.  If they want artificial but can’t afford it the health centers can provide them with it.  That way, they can afford to feed well the children they already have and send them to school so they can grow up to be responsible citizens who contribute to society.  IT’S THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!  COMMON SENSE! 
    Those who can afford to feed 12 or more kids go ahead.  The RH bill is not stopping you.  This is really to help those poor people who have a kid every year when they already don’t have anything to feed their existing kids.  Is this so hard to understand?????

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! maipapakain mo ba ang mga condoms at contraceptives? Is that hard to understand bobo!

  • tamumd

    lol….keep saying that. All your posts are slowly disappearing.

  • sked482

    Bakit kailangang isali sa usapan mga representatives ng CBCP? Eh parang naghalo halong corrupt lang yan.

    Sino gatasan ng mga pulitiko? Tayong tao.
    Sino gatasan ng mga obispo? Tayong tao.
    Sino kawawa kapag ang mga pulitiko at obispo ang nagkasundo? Tayo pa rin.

    Kaya kayong mga pulitiko huwag kayo sa mga kapwa niyo corrupt na mga pari makinig, minsan pakinggan niyo naman ang totoong boss niyo. Alamin niyo ang gusto ng majority, yan ang demokrasya.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! ikaw naman ang mangagatas sa kaban ng bayan bobo!

      • Bidang

        Tanga ka nagpapauto ka sa mga corrupt na obispo…

  • tamumd

    :-) your posts are slowly disappearing.

    • marionics

      he he not fast enough

      • tamumd

        lol..hence slowly.

  • rightist

    I hope someone can take note of which Senators support the RH bill in its original form. I will not vote for those who say they are pro RH but actually took part in eviscerating the bill. Even though Sen Pia C. introduced some amendments, we know that she prefers the original form. 

    • marionics

      well for next year these are the reelectionists. so take your pick
      Alan cayetano
      Chiz escudero
      Gringo honasan
      Loren legarda
      Koko Pimentel
      Antonio trillanes

  • jinx

    Our senate is split between traditional politicians and progressives.  The trapos like Honasan, Sotto, Enrile, and Estrada don’t want these country to move forward. Gusto nila laging may madaming mahihirap para sikat sila, kaya takot ilagay sa botohan ang RH bill. Ayaw din ng mga Damaso mabawasan ang bilang mga pobre dahil bawas din sa kita nila. Meanwhile, the progressives are mature enough to support a bill that would give a chance for the poor to unshackle themselves from economic slavery. Kelan kaya mamulat ang bansa sa panloloko ng mga Damaso at trapo?

  • jinx

     You’re the reason why we need better people, not more people.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! isa ka na doon bobo!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

    Tanga! lokohin mo sarili mo, mas trapo ka bobo!

    • Bidang

      BOBO ka Tangaaaaaa……

    • Diepor

      Wouldnt it been better if your mother didnt get so many kids ? Then maybe she could have sent you trough school and you could maybe had more than the mimimum pay you get now. I understand you are bitter and a hater because of your hard life.

  • jinx

     Salamat at sumang-ayon ka naman na kabilang ako doon sa better people.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! dalhin ka na sa mental hospital at sumabog na ang utak mo!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AJVFGREFB2WJ5ORE6CHJXLMOTE Jimmy

    filipino voters, remember those who are opposing the RH bill in the senate. someday, they will need your vote and let’s join hands to reject them right away!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! reject yourself bobo!

      • Bidang

        Tanga kayo mga anti-RH aat bobo tulad ni Sottot…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! palibhasa basted ka lang kay Sottot bobo!

    • marionics

      well for next year these are the reelectionists. so take your pick

      Alan cayetano

      Chiz escudero

      Gringo honasan

      Loren legarda

      Koko Pimentel

      Antonio trillanes

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! pajoin join hands ka pa bakla ka siguro bobo!

      • Bidang

        Ikaw ang tanga at yang CBCP mo walang kwenta mga epokrito.. mag suicide na kayo..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! palibhasa kinantot ka sa pwet ng bf mo kaya nasarapan ka bobo!

      • Bidang

        Naghintay sa iyo si father nakahubad na mag s3x na daw kayo, saan ba pinapasok ni father sa pwet mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! bakit mo siya tinatanong? type mo siguro titi ni Damaso  bobo!

  • jinx

     O baka atakihin ka sa puso diyan, huminga ka ng malalim at uminom ng malamig na tubig, OK?

  • virgoyap

    Anti RH senators are male chauvinists. They think that they are always correct especially with regard to reproductive health. They usually exclude women in their reasoning. For them RH debate is is a win or lose scenario. Winning is what is solely in their minds until they forgot the most important thing in this issue, and that’s LISTENING. Listening especially to women who are the most affected in this very controversial bill.

  • alvin sison

    The RH bill has many inconsistent provisions and so a careful
    deliberation must be made in order to secure the welfare of the
    public before this bill will be passed. The proponents of the bill are
    making a way on the fast enactment of the said bill… I wonder why?
    Is it because of the fund allotted in the implementation of the bill? Let’s
    hope that the RH Bill will not be used by those people to enriched
    themselves and to gain at the expense of the people. RH BILL is not the
    answer to our country’s problem… The Government must find better ways
    of addressing the need of the people and not resorting to this useless bill. 
    Through RH Bill, instead of teaching every Filipino family about
    “responsible parenthood”, we are teaching our people, especially the
    poor, to be dependent to the government (including business and health
    sectors) who will supply their condoms, contraceptives and other RH
    services;What is responsible parenthood? I think, a separate
    article should be written to further discuss this. But as a gist and
    in relation to this bill, I believe that it will teach the other
    way around.

    Instead of making couples as responsible in rearing their family, this
    bill will teach them, particularly the poor,  to be dependent to the
    government (including business and health sectors) in providing their
    RH services.

    Responsible Parenthood should educate couples how to become prepared
    in
    facing challenges of being future parents NOT to spoon-feed them or
    provide
    FREE RH services in expense of the tax payers’ money. Poor
    parents
    to become responsible must have good jobs to start with- with
    decent
    income to sustain the needs of their family members NOT to
    provide
    them CONDOMS and CONTRACEPTIVES, which are temporary solutions
    to
    the over population problem.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      ‘Fast enactment’?!?

      You do know that the bill has been around for decades, and that it’s effectively been stonewalled for ages, right?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

        Tanga! wala kasing kwenta ang RH Bill nyo kaya parating napupunta sa basura!

    • damatannapo

      tackling such problem as over population is wide in scope

      in management you must elimainate things that hinder

      over population hinders a government with it’s scarce resources to bring proper and better education and built infrastructures to stimulate growth.

      With a learned citizens and a an economical vibrant country it empowers people to look after themselves and will cause good governance unlike what we are at present times, most Pilipinos need dole outs making us easy preys by those greedy people around us

      One more point you stated contraceptives are costly and burdensome to the government, how about the cost of bringing those financially incapable babies and under 5 children including their mothers into proper care and health

  • Bayan Panona

    Sarap magbasa dito pagbored sa opisina..haha!

    • boypalaban

      kung sa makati ka labas ka muna…bili ka ng pares mami na tinda ko dito sa pasong tamo…may isaw, utak, laman, S5, tuwalya, etc…

      • marionics

        may bbq na isaw ka ba boy? na may sawsawan na sukang may sili? sarap nun sa san mig pre he he
        ano luto mo sa utak chong?
        ano naman yung S5? tagal na yata akong wala a at di ko na alm yun

      • boypalaban

         S5= soup no.5…etits at yagbols ng baka…sa soup na sobrang pagkalinamnam…

      • marionics

        he he pampahulas yan boy a. 

      • boypalaban

         pampa = pampahulas at pampainit ng kalamnan

      • damatannapo

        saan sa Makati Square ba ang pwesto mo laki akong Makati malapit kami sa Inquirer na bagong tayo pa lang noon pero mula 96 di pa ako nakakabalik ryan

      • boypalaban

        malayo na sa akin ang Inquirer halos bandang PRC na yun……dito lang ako papuntang Mantrade….

      • damatannapo

        naalala ko yang tawiran sa Magallanes 13 yrs araw araw at gabi gabi ginagamit yan during my employment sa Sta Rosa Laguna 45 min lang ang travel one way at hindi ako nakaranas ng hold up kahit madilim at cash pa ang sweldo noon (instead na ATM na later) 5 pm ang labas ko mga 6 pm nasa Pasong Tirad na ako

      • boypalaban

        grabe…
        malayo na para sa akin ang santa rosa…di na uubra yata ngayon ang 45 mins na travel…

      • damatannapo

        resulta yan ng over population at maling pamamalakad ng gobyerno natin

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    ANONG MERON SA RH BILL NA WALA PA SA MGA EXISTING LAWS NATIN AT PRACTICES NA NG GOBYERNO NATIN NGAYON? Napaka divisive kasi nito that’s it’s eliciting the worst in words among the filipinos for or against it.

    Section 17 of the Magna Carta of Women, or RA 9710, states that “access to the following services shall be ensured: “Maternal care to include pre- and post-natal services to address pregnancy and infant health and nutrition; promotion of breastfeeding, responsible, ethical, legal, safe, and effective methods of family planning; family and State collaboration in youth sexuality education and health services without prejudice to the primary right and duty of parents to educate their children;”

    “Prevention and management of reproductive tract infections, including sexually transmitted diseases, HIV, and AIDS; prevention and management of reproductive tract cancers like breast and cervical cancers, and other gynecological conditions and disorders; prevention of abortion and management of pregnancy-related complications.”

    Guidelines for the conditional cash transfer program state that “b) Parents / guardians must attend family planning sessions/mother’s class, Parent Effectiveness Service and others.”

    Section 23 of the Cheaper Medicines Law or RA 9502 includes “Drugs and medicines indicated for prevention of pregnancy, e.g., oral contraceptives” on the list of “Drugs and Medicines that are Subject to Price Regulation.”

    • damatannapo

      again to eliminate ume epal na politicos like Atienza and Barangay Alabang officials, another with a lesser population a country has more chance to develop itself and improve the lives of it’s citizen thus eliminating crimes, poverty, illiteracy and most social ills/ problems and will bring in good governance

      Yes there is bad and disadvantage in RH but today we must and should utilize the lesser evil amongst us

  • Bayan Panona

    nyahaha!yung isa dito may topak ata.kanina pa!

    • sked482

      Palaging may topak yan bro, hindi lang ngayon. Hehehehe.

      • marionics

        sino yun chong? sino? pro ba o anti? he he

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Si Bidang tinutukoy niya, tinitopak na nga yun e

      • Bidang

        Ikaw ang tinotopak may etats ata utak mo… wahahahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! sumabog na nga ang utak mo bobo!

      • Bidang

        Ngek… utak mo ata ang sumabog nangangamoy na…

      • sked482

        Alam mo na yun bro, parang pro, parang anti. Ewan. Hehehe.

    • marionics

      sino yun chong? sino? pro ba o anti? he he

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         si damatannapo yun, nasisiraan na ng ulo

  • virgoyap

    I think ikaw ang bobo!!! Otot nyo!!

    • marionics

      he he you know what they say sa mga pumapatol sa…

  • flora gonzales

    i await the listing of the senatorsn who are anti RH bill for i will vote for them and the are the men with backbone they show their love for humanity i will campaign to the maximum

    • marionics

      well for next year these are the reelectionists. so take your pick
      Alan cayetano
      Chiz escudero
      Gringo honasan
      Loren legarda
      Koko Pimentel
      Antonio trillanes

      • Bidang

        Ngayon pa lang dapat magsalita na ang mga poitiko kung pabor o hindi sila sa RH bill.. para sa akin at buong pamilya ko suportado namin ang RH bill.. INC Solid kami Pro-RH..

      • marionics

        he he sabadista ba ang tawag sa inyo?

      • Bidang

        Ngek hindi wahahaha… 

      • boypalaban

         Iglesia ni Kulapo…kulto…mula 1914 hanggang ngayon uto uto pa rin sa pamilya Manaloloko…

      • Bidang

        Katoliko palaging liko-liko kaya mga doktrina ninyo baluktot.. wahahaha

      • boypalaban

         uto uto ng pamilya manalo…di na ako magtataka ganyan ka mag-isip…walang isip…punta ka na sa spaceship…lilipad na…..

      • boypalaban

        sige idamay mo mga katoliko sa pagtatalo natin…
        ako ang kalabanin mo…ang taong isinilang para kalabanin ang iglesia ni kulapo….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! rapist naman ang founder Felix Manalo niyo! Nasarapan ba siya kay Rosita Trillanes?

    • Bidang

      Sige mangampanya ka para sa mga anti-rh tingnan lang natin yabang ninyo dahil kaming mga pro-RH mangangampanya din kami sa sa mga senador na pro-RH kung gamitin ninyo ang style ninyo na magsisinungaling para lang maloko ang mga less educated na tao kaya rin naming gawin yan…

      • boypalaban

         kung hindi ka less educated…ano ang ibang tawag sa gaya mong uto uto sa mga pulitiko?

      • Bidang

        Less educated ako pero hindi ako kagaya ninyo na educated daw pero hindi ginagamit ang utak… nakakatawa naman kayo matalino daw pero naniniwala sa isang bobong senador… gamitin nyo naman talino ninyo.. pwe… 

      • boypalaban

         wag kang dudura…baka dumumi ang space ship ng iglesia ni cristo…hahahahahaha

      • sked482

        Hayaan mo lang sila bro, wala ngang naging epekto kay Flavier dati yan. Hehehehe.

    • sked482

      Si GMA anti-RH kaya mahal at kasundo ng mga obispo.

      Kapag tumakbo uli presidente parang si erap iboto uli natin dahil sa kanyang “love for humanity”, tignan natin baka mabawasan corruption at gumanda buhay ng mga pinoy. Hehehehe.

      • IanAlera

        Replying to sked482

        Ang layo mo sa topic.

    • jinx

       Backbone meron, pero b-yag wala. Takot makalaban ang CBCP noon pa man.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

        Ayan si Bidang walang b-yag yan kasi nagpa Transexual Change na yan sa Thailand

      • jinx

         Sino ikaw walang b-yag? Lam ko na yun, matagal na.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! si Bidang bobo!

      • jinx

         O ma hi-blood ka na naman ineng, hinay-hinay lang.

    • GavinReynolds

      Humanity is not subjecting your fellow countrymen to suffer in poverty, and perpetuate ignorance about women’s health, and taking advantage of the uneducated to maintain your stranglehold of power.  

    • AgapitoBagumbayan

      Go to the very center of poverty. Right in the heart of an squatters area. Then look around and ask yourself. Is this the kind of humanity I am fighting for?

  • Bidang

    Ikaw ang tanga at yang CBCP mo walang kwenta mga epokrito.. mag suicide na kayo..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! palibhasa kinantot ka ng boyfriend mo kaya sumabog na yang utak mo tanga!

      • Bidang

        Nakipags3x ka na ba kay bishop? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! bakit namimiss mo na ba si Padre Salvi, nasarapan ka siguro bobo!

  • Bidang

    Tanaga ka rin…

  • mariatiu89

    Well, Sen. Pia has moved for such amendments. Implications – there are many inadequacies the bill has. I hope she realizes that she has to FULLY understand a bill before it is to be passed. Pilit ng Pilit na maipasa, marami namang di pwede sa mga kababayan natin. Tsk! Tsk! Sino na ngayon ang nakakatawa? 
    If Sen. Sotto did not expose such, then majority of our people are in a lot of trouble. Someone has to place a balance in passing a bill. Di pwede na lahat OO lang ng oo. 

    • Bidang

      Eh parehas kayo ni sen. mong SOTTO bobo na sinungaling pa…

    • GavinReynolds

      Incorrect.

      Pia has made the amendments to appease the hardliners in hopes of getting the bill through in order to do some good for the country.  This does not mean the sections in question are wrong, just that they are something that can be eliminated while still doing the most good.

      Sen. Sotto exposed nothing other than that he’s a thief, a liar, a coward, a person without conscience and that he has a time machine.  Otherwise, he would be a decent human being, apologize to those who’s work he has stolen and twisted, admit that it was wrong and submit himself before the ethics committee.  The time machine bit, I dunno, maybe he can get ahold of Van Damme for that.  

      • Briane lamp

         Di ka tumama.
        No intiende.
        Maling-mali

  • boypalaban

    nakikita mo lang ang sarili mo sa iba hahahaha

  • Bidang

    Tanga ka rin mahilig ka kasi makipag s3x sa kabit mong Obispo kaya ganun ka die hard sa mga corrupt na obispo…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! palibhasa kinantot ka ni Padre Salvi sa pwet mo kaya nasiraan ka na ng pwet bobo!

      • Bidang

        Yan ang turo ni father sa mga catholics.. mag salita kayo ng hindi maganda sa mga hindi naniniwala sa turo ng ismbahang katolika…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Tanga! mga ministro ni Manalo loko loko kung ano ano pinagsasabi nila sa Talk Show nila kaya pinagtatawanan lang sila ni Brod Pete

  • Bidang

    Naghintay sa iyo si bishop mag s3x na daw kayo…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! nasarapan ka siguro kay Padre Salvi kaya namimiss mo siya bobo!

  • Bidang

    Oy si harbert david nagsalita na naman ang bobo kagaya ni SOTTOT… tapos na ba kayo nag s3x ni father? masarap ba pwet ni father bert? wahahaha

    • boypalaban

       sa mga sinusulat mo pa lang dito…halatang halata na isa ka ngang Iglesia Ni Cristo…salamat at mas lalong nakikilala ng mga nagbabasa dito kung ano ang ugali ng miyembro ng kulto na yan…thanks…

      • marionics

        7th day adventist yan chong

      • boypalaban

         sabi niya INC siya e…

      • Bidang

        Bastos kasi kayo kaya dapat lang na bastosin din kayo… 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

        Tanga! Bastos ka kasi ang Rapist na Founder Felix Manalo niyo binastos din si Rosita Trillanes bobo!

      • marionics

        aaah parang 7th day nakita ko kanina e. baka namalikmata lang ako o baka naman binago niya he he

      • marionics

        eto orig na sulat niya o
        Ngayon pa lang dapat magsalita na ang mga poitiko kung pabor o hindi sila sa RH bill.. para sa akin at buong pamilya ko suportado namin ang RH bill.. Seventh-Day Adventists.. Solid kami Pro-RH.. 

      • sked482

        INC nga raw bro..

      • marionics

        aaah parang 7th day nakita ko kanina e. baka namalikmata lang ako o baka naman binago niya he he

      • marionics

        eto orig na sulat niya o
        Ngayon pa lang dapat magsalita na ang mga poitiko kung pabor o hindi sila sa RH bill.. para sa akin at buong pamilya ko suportado namin ang RH bill.. Seventh-Day Adventists.. Solid kami Pro-RH.. 

      • sked482

        Biglang pinalitan para hindi madamay? Malinaw stand ng INC, pero yung mga sabadista di ko pa narinig stand sa RH. Maganda malaman din kung anu stand nila.

      • marionics

        e iilan lang naman yata yang mga yan di ba?

      • sked482

        Sabagay, wala akong kakilalang sabadista.

      • Bidang

        Ngek mali ka tsong

      • marionics

        sorry. namalikmata yata ako he he

      • sked482

        Tama. Si Herbert David lang may karapatan magpakita ng ganyang ugali. Hehehehe.

      • Bidang

        Kung marong kang rumespito sa iyong kapwa rerespituhin ka rin nila, pero ang mga taong kagaya ni herbert david at boypalaban mga edukado daw pero pag nag post dito ng comments daig pa nila ang mga taong walang pinag-aralan mga bastos kaya dapat lang na hindi rin sila irerespito..

      • boypalaban

        eto ang sinulat mo sa taas: baka burahin mo pa…

        “Oy si harbert david nagsalita na naman ang bobo kagaya ni SOTTOT…
        tapos na ba kayo nag s3x ni father? masarap ba pwet ni father bert?
        wahahaha”

        thank you nga pala ulit…
        galing mo magpakilala….

      • boypalaban

        alipin mo ako kapag may naipakita ka o nakopya ka na sinabi kong edukado ako…
        dami dito naggagaling galingan di ko na nga pinapatulan ng academic at iba pang credentials ko…dapat pasalamat ka pa sa akin doon…hahahaha
        anyway…marami akong naging kaibigan dito na proRH at grabe rin kami magtalo…baka nga kung antiRh yung mga yon di ko pa naging kaibigan sila…pero bakit ikaw kakaiba? pag-isipan mo yon…

  • Bidang

    Ikaw ang pumonta ng metal hospital bert magpagamot ka dun, kasi pinatulan mo ang pari eh… nakakahiya kayo… hehehehe

    • boypalaban

      nakisubo ka naman…masarap ba?

      • Bidang

        Tuad nyan edukado daw pero pag nag post bastos… pwe…

      • boypalaban

        hindi ako boyedukado…kundi boypalaban laban sa iglesia ni cristo kulto…
        ….aaaaay ang sarap kumain ng dinuguan…daming dugo….tsalap tsalap…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         Kahit naman si Felix Manalo bastos nasarapan ba siya sa pagrape kay Rosita Trillanes?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

        Tanga! dapat sa iyo dalhin na sa mental hospital, doon ka na lang mangampanya sa mga baliw bobo!

  • Bidang

    Ganyan asal ng mga anti-RH yan ang turo ni bishop sa kanila..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! palibhasa nasarapan si Felix Manalo sa pagrape niya kay Rosita Trillanes

  • Bayan Panona

    Kakatawa talaga tong may topak nato.. Patay malisya pa.. nyahahahahahaha! LOL!

  • GavinReynolds

    Actually I was referring to his role as “Time Cop” from 1994.  That may be before your time however.

    • marionics

      why? because he’s only 8? he he

      • GavinReynolds

        My Tagalog is very poor, but from what little I do know, he might as well be based on his choice of words.

      • Michael Paras

        He’s a grown man with a mind of an 8 year old.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

      Tanga! mas gusto ko sa Expendables 2 hindi sa lumang Time Machine mo, kontrabida si Van Damme doon, pwede ka niyang ipasok para pambuga sa bazooka niya doon !

  • Briane lamp

    Dati-dati, FPJ lang ang bida.
    Sinundan ni Erap ng inapi sya’t nakatulong sa mga baranggay ng Manila.

    Sotto, bumibida na.
    Enrile n Honasan, buma-back-up pa.

      

  • jinx

    Please we can’t always be proud of quantity, people. Let’s go for quality this time.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Sandali! wag ka munang ipanganak tapos we’ll go for quality para hindi ka na mapanganak!

      • jinx

        O galit ka naman… Para matawa ka meron akong joke nabasa ko lang sa FB.

        Anak: Tay, buntis ako.

        Tatay: A ganun ba anak. O sige matulog ka na.

        Anak: Ganun lang yun tay? Di ka man lang galit? Anong klase kang ama!

        Tatay: Herbert David, tumigil ka! Hinahayaan ko na nga pagla-ladlad mo. Kung kumakaringking ka, huwad!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

         haha very funny!

  • Luthmar

    Bill or no Bill, who cares?  All I know is, I will not have tons of babies that I will not be
    able to feed properly, educate well and look after their well being.    I will not want my kids to be begging, sniffing glue, stealing, prostituting and what have you.  What will the anti RH Bill and CBCP do, jail me, ex communicate me for wanting to give my children a safe home and healthy life?    No, thanks.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O5HKALRICF7V6QM6MYPC5TJCFQ Herbert David

       Tanga! hindi ka naman talaga pwedeng magkaanak lalake ka e bobo!

      • Bidang

        Bastos ka talaga yan ba ang turo ng mga obispo sa iyo? nagpapakita lang na ang mga anti-rh mga bastos…

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Bakit obispo ka-agad ka bitang mo… galit at suya.

      • Luthmar

        Ikaw ang tanga at bobo to say such things.  You do not know me, I do not
        know you.  But I will keep you guessing.   Have fun. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKWRI43N2JVXHWN6HN7ATVEH4I Felix

      Therefore your stand is unconciously anti-RH. you are just confuse.

      • Luthmar

        Thanks, you are right.  I should have written what will pro RH B Bill……, as against “anti RH Bill.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    GO RH BILL!!!

    • spearheads

      Correct! GO AWAY RH BILL!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKWRI43N2JVXHWN6HN7ATVEH4I Felix

    This series of amendmends will surely paved the way for the passing of the RH bill. After all, passed or not passed, this is a dead bill. What was removed was the very essence of the bill. The teeth of the law. And was removed. So what else will this bill become after it is passed deleting those provisions ? Nothing, it become nothing. This bill become just a reminder to educate our people, nothing else. This just prove that RH bill is not good. While its pleasing to the ear, its application is actualy dangerous.

  • Albert Einstien

    RH bill- is HITLER nazi’s…the FINAL SOLUTION…hindi Filipino ang magsusulong nito..dahil pag filipino ka…proprotektahan mo ang lahi mo..mukhang naubos nyo na JEWS at filipino naman ang pinag-tritripan…….lol

    • jinx

       Haha, baligtad. Hitler was a choir boy in a Catholic church. The swastika sign for the Nazis was based on a etched cross on the walls of his church.  Many of the Nazi soldiers were blessed by priests before they went to war against Russia on the East. 

      So, to some extent, some priests supported Hitler. Kasi gusto nila giyera ang pampabawas ng populasyon, hindi condom. Ayaw nila ng slogan na “prevention is better than cure.” So in fact, the antis are the ones who are anti-life.

      So, Mr. Albert Einstein, galingan mo pa research mo. Ganyan talaga mapapala natin pag after lang tayo sa quantity, mababaw mag-isip.

      • Albert Einstien

        research … and you will find the answer…lol

      • maria

        Einstien talo ka. Tama si Jinx na mababaw ang isip mo

      • txtman

        A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PITIFUL MIND

        PITIFUL

      • ApoNiLolo

        Pitiful, indeed, if all you do is CAPS Lock para lang mapansin. >: D

      • ApoNiLolo

        To further illuminate: the Roman Catholic Church was also against Russia during WWII because they consider the communist state as “God-less” people.

    • damatannapo

      Ano ito?

      hilo ata

      • Albert Einstien

        research…and you will find the answer…..lol

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QGZJXIBSWGXO74EKCHOLZJSHZU JunX

        LOL lakas pa magsabi ng “research daw”. Una, ang population ng Jews compared sa panahon ng gyera ay sobrang malayo na hindi sa liit kundi sa dami nila. Kahit saang parte ng munod eh dumami na rin sila lalo na sa Israel. Ikalawa, para sa maraming tao ang RH bill ay pagprotekta sa lahi ng Pinoy. Tama ba na mamuhay ang pinoy sa khirapan?
        May pa research research ka pang nalalaman.

      • Albert Einstien

        research more ..truth shall set you free……lol

      • ApoNiLolo

        Baka ang ibig mong sabihin ay – “The truth is out there” (with accompanying soundtrack from The X-files). >: D

      • damatannapo

        aral ka muna ng world history kasi sa post mong yan parang wala kang ka ide ideya o baka absent ka noong itinuro ito 

    • damatannapo

      anong pilipino ang magsusulong matagal na ang birth control example Red China Singapore pati Italy and so on….

      • silver gray

        can you check the economies of Singapore and Italy now and how they are alarmed about their low fertility rate?

  • spearheads

    Hahahh. await ka pa dyan Floor leader Gonzales II. Ikaw na nga ang nagsabing “The reason why it is hard to pass the RH Bill in the House is that the problem lies with the ruling LP themselves. Three of the House leaders are anti RH. Even Abaya who was the Chairman of the Appropriations Committee and now DOTC Sec. is anti RH. The Opposition is now an “amused spectator” watching the LP debate among themselves.” Ikaw pa nagsuggest na “It’s time for P_Noy to go mad just like when he pushed for the impeachment.”

    Whoa, what is this a crying lady in the House? Sawayin mo yang tokayo mo Flora Gonzales at inagawan ng kendi ng mga anti RH proponents, lol!  

  • Rodrigo_Tisoy

    ang mga tao dito hindi nag iisip. ang contraception at sex ed ay hindi para sa pinoy! i-basura ang RH bill!

    • tamumd

      Why not? How different are we from other nationalities?

  • Bidang

    Bstos ka talaga ganyan siguro mga magulang mo mga bastos kaya bastos ka rin..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CBJ4JMKQWWBF6FKW5ZAGXAG4JU Poor

    Pro RH bill ako, kasi nagsusulong siya ng reproduction. Ang anti RH bill yon ang gusto ng contraception!

  • txtman

    THANK GOD!

    NAGKASUNDO NA RIN.

    EVERYBODY IS PRO-MATERNAL & CHILD HEALTH

    AMEN

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Fight still on! Don’t let you guard down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000200733074 Joshua Ordaz

    So they don’t want to pass the RH bill.

    better alternative: Pass a law that will give funding for teenage mothers to either continue their studies or find a job.

    the catch: the funding will come from the church and the anti-rh bill proponents’ pork-barrel.

    ayaw niyo RH? sige kukuha nalang panggastos mula sa bulsa ng anti rh.

    • IanAlera

      Replying to Joshua Ordaz

      nonsense

  • heartmercado27

    As reiterated by Mr. Sotto we have 23 existing laws addressing maternal and reproductive health which are far way more precise than the RH Bill. What our country needs is the proper and effective way of implementing these laws. And for your information pro RH mobs, you’re already paying taxes worth 8 billion to address the problems the RH bill wants to solve and yet no major changes happened. So why still pass the RH bill?? NO to Rh bill!

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe_Estrada Phoebe Estrada

    “Filipinos are known to espouse a culture of kindness and empathy. We uphold the tradition of reaching out and extending genuine care and concern for our countrymen in need, more so for women who are pregnant and in need of special care,” Cayetano said. 

    If you’re more concerned  about pregnant women, why not make a Bill for them? Do not push every Filipino into using condoms, and some other contraceptives presented as essential medicine [but not really, coz some triggers cancer cells] to manipulate poor people’s minds, [who are unfortunately not educated enough] who don’t understand the difference between a CONDOM and an ESSENTIAL MEDICINE! Pathetic! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MLURGONF7ZBJY7V2RJ4PEJIEHU Filipinos

       who’s saying tthe biill is pushing condom to ALL filipinos? it’s primarily for poor, marginalized folks who couldn’t afford the kind of education you had and the money you have… have you seen the dearth of squatters and begging children in Manila?

      • silver gray

        check your local health centers, they are already giving free IUDs and condoms. so what the heck is this bill for?

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Exactly…. Another Repackaged and Relabelled Rotten Candy – Different Wrapper. Same Effect!! It Kills , It Divide ….it is not for LIFE!. 

  • gilbs72

    When government advocates reliance on government-funded contraceptive distribution (meaning taxpayers’ money) , that’s NOT “responsible” parenthood. That’s IRresponsible parenthood. Family planning is the responsibility of parents–whether naturally (through discipline which is FREE) or by purchasing their own contraceptives (really affordable) at any drugstore or convenience store. Most taxpayers are not wealthy, but common employees struggling to pay their rent, bills and send their children to school. In fact, they are the only ones who are unable to avoid taxes because it’s forced out of their paychecks. And they don’t get their taxes’ worth in terms of quality public service – roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, etc. Instead about P7~8-Billion taxes will be spent on condoms/pills, which recipients could easily have avoided through discipline or a few pesos (approx the amount people waste on drinking, smoking or text).Sa susunod na DAGDAG-BUWIS, remember your Pro-RH congressman.

  • Jan_Yu

    It only means  RH Bill has hidden agenda wherein some senators don’t agree. Lawmakers should thoroughly review this bill. For me, we don’t need it. Issues on RH Bill are existing laws we just need to strictly implement it.

    • damatannapo

      What are those secret agendas?

      any link?

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Kudos to “IanAlera”. You Blind!!!!

  • Hfxwst

    How long before we no longer have to beg other countries for charity/aid to feed hungry Catholic children?  Can’t we Catholics do it ourselves?  

  • Garote

    During the 70s, there was this popular song “Devil Woman.” I heard it’s Pia Cayetano’s favorite song, is it?

  • IanAlera

    NO to the the NATIONAL CONTRACEPTION MARKETING PROGRAM, otherwise known as the RH BILL.

    BILLIONS OF PESOS worth of condoms and pills; not to mention the BILLIONS OF PESOS worth of equipment and contraceptive ice cream trucks.

    BILLIONS OF PESOS YEAR AFTER YEAR. Alam ninyo na siguro kung sino ang makikinabang sa KUMISYON.

    Once this rh bill gets passed into law, the less fortunate and their children will bear the brunt of the massive brainwashing/ indoctrination that will be implemented thru the mandatory sex/ contraception education program, as well as the deceptive and manipulative propaganda that would reinforce the CONTRACEPTION MARKETING CAMPAIGN by pharmaceutical companies/ businessmen.

    It is not difficult to see that the massive propaganda being waged by the pro rh lobby
    (congressmen/ Senators/ propagandists) is being fueled by ‘money’. COMMISSION from government projects have a standard rate of 30 – 60%.

    Let us fight the good fight. Let us reject the rh bill.
    ———————————————————————————————————-

    This article was written by Jerry E. Esplanada and originally
    published in the Philippine Daily Inquirer. First Posted 01:25:00
    08/31/2010. (excerpt)

    MANILA, Philippines—The government has started implementing a new
    familyplanning marketing strategy designed by the United States Agency
    for International Development (USAID).

    The “May Plano Ako” program, conceptualized by the USAID’s Health
    Promotionand Communication Project, or HealthPRO, is in line with the
    country’s MillenniumDevelopment Goals, or MDGs, especially those on
    population control and reproductive health.

    May Plano Ako “targets not only women but also men and young people”
    on theimportance of family planning and contraceptive use, according to a
    top official of the Department of Health (DoH).

    Unlike previous family planning initiatives of the DoH, which were
    “sporadic and small-scale,” the new program will be “unified, national
    and comprehensive,” according to USAID and DoH program materials
    furnished the Inquirer.

    The US Embassy in Manila has acknowledged Washington’s active role in the Philippine government’s family planning initiatives. In a text message, Wossie Mazengia, the US Embassy deputy spokesperson, told the Inquirer that the USAID “continues to work in partnership with the DoH, local governments and the private sector to increase access to and improve the quality of basic health services, including family planning.”……

    Communication strategy

    In a 37-page report, titled “Family Planning Behavior Change
    Communication Strategy,” the NCHP said: “The strategy builds on the
    understanding that encouraging individuals or couples to use family
    planning is a process, involving distinct audiences that need different
    messages and approaches.”

    “Information alone is not enough to bring about behavior change among
    any audience. Instead, the strategy is based on a multilevel,
    synchronized and holistic marketing approach to family planning.”

    The same report said “the approach is unique in that it focuses on
    increasing modern contraceptive use through demand generation, or
    increasing knowledge and forming positive attitudes toward contraceptive
    use and birth spacing; social marketing, or repackaging or selling the
    concept of family planning as a lifestyle that contributes to better
    quality of life; and service marketing, or building capacity of
    family-planning service providers and promoting model providers.”

    • damatannapo

      Your speculating

      rather present tangible/substance facts

      • IanAlera

        Replying to damatannapo

        Don’t pretend to be blind.  The post has all the facts you need, to draw a reasonable conclusion.

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Like what – State your Unbiased Facts!! .Aber!! None!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mannix.pelingon Mannix Pelingon

    By the deletion of the said controversial provision in RH bill, one thing has been revealed. THERE ARE INDEED A HIDDEN EVIL WELL DRESSED IN THE BILL! There are lot to be unveiled. 

    Snow white was killed by eating an apple with poison. RH bill is like an apple in Snow white’s story, it’s tempting outside but deadly inside.  Let’s not be deceived by the promising convenience of RH bill, but rather let us be horrified by it’s late but long-term deadly effects.

    Paigtingin ang kampanya laban RH bill!!!

    • damatannapo

      Give facts not fairy tales

      Anything sensible rather than that?

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        Like you have something? None – Awesome!!!” Only Attacking and Blaming the Roman Catholic Church! LAME!

  • David Lim

    It is good that the Pro-RH have finally considered placing amendments to the bill. 

  • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    To Those Pro-RH Bill Supporters Blaming the Catholic Church… If you can read without “adverse Reaction” . Please do so… Thanks!

    I’d Like to Share this blog, Shared by Mark Shea Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:59 PM 
    (Credits Below)
    A reader writes:
    Read some of your blog. I know their are some good people that are Catholics. Just don’t understand why organized religion becomes perverted and the leadership condones the behavior. Wait, I do understand, it’s all about “power over.” The culture of the church is corrupt and sanctions this aberrant behavior. Puts all the good people in such a bad place, don’t you think? The church has had a “power over” relationship with the people for centuries. Watched this in action during Semana Santa in Sevilla about 30 years back. It was a disgusting display of “power over” and yet apologists for the church condone and encourage this behavior.

    First, thank you for the acknowledgement that “some” good people are Catholics. I would even go so far as to say most Catholics are good people. That is, we are average schlubs trying to get by in life. As you may recall, “Be kind, for everyone you meet is engaged in a great struggle.” It turns out Catholics are remarkably like human beings and are not more prone to evil than the general population, nor do their IQ levels deviate from the norm for the general population.
    Why then, do they remain Catholic when members of their communion do great evil?
    Answer: Because Catholic faith does not stand or fall with the moral quality of our bishops. It stands on Jesus Christ. I’m a Catholic because I believe Jesus is the Son of God and that he established a Church as the sacrament of salvation–a Church composed entirely of sinful people–especially me. I don’t place my faith in the personal sanctity of any bishop (though some are very good people and others are, in my view, scoundrels). I place it in Jesus to guide his Church because he is gracious to dunderheads and sinners. There is no option of escaping grave sin in this world. You meet it everywhere, including the mirror. The only option is to stick with Jesus–or not. Some people imagine you can stick with Jesus but ditch the Church. Not possible. Christ is the head and the Church is his body.
    Doesn’t mean (obviously) that the Church is a bunch of perfect people. That’s why we have the penitential rite in every Mass and the sacrament of confession. We sin, often gravely. But that would be true whether we are Catholic or not.
    Does human sin find ways to exploit even the hierarchical structure of the Church? Of course, and the priest scandal is one example of that. Sin will exploit any conceivable structure of governance there is (which is why our democratic republic is currently transmogrifying into a Caesaroligarchic police state and empire). Again, you can’t avoid the fact of human fallenness and the Church was never promised that human sin would not afflict her or her members. But the secret sauce that the Church has recourse to is the grace of God that sees her through the failures of her members (and members means everybody from Pope to dogcatcher).
    So I can pick my friends, but I’m stuck with my relatives. And, frankly, I’m not so hot so who am I to sit in judgment of the whole Catholic Church? Particularly since, in addition to the vanishingly small population of abusive priests and stupid bishops, there is a rather remarkable communion of saints, living and dead, that I ignore to my great deprivation. It’s like sizing up the whole apostolic band simply by the behavior of Judas. Short-sighted.
    As to “power over” I’m afraid I have very little resonance with this common complaint. I simply don’t experience it. My bishop has no idea who I am and our lives almost never intersect. My experience of my local priest has been happy and freeing. Indeed, my main experience of the Catholic Church (I am an adult convert) has been one of liberation, not bondage. Liberation from the constricting shibboleths of political ideology. Liberation from the confining PC pieties of our time. Liberation from the stifling and soul-crushing theologies of sundry American Protestant sectarianisms. LIberation from the formless anarchies of the Left and the cynical legalist mind games of the Right. Liberation to enjoy what I enjoy and not what I am “supposed” to enjoy. Liberation from almost innumerable mental prisons, suffocating orthodoxies and a hundred fears. I have no doubt that there are perversions of the Faith that can be suffocating. A little time on the internet with repressed Traditionalists trying to control whether women wear pants or repressive Progressives trying to force us all to confess this week’s PC piety is proof enough of that. But of course, those sort of people *resent the Church* and constantly complain that it is “liberal” or “conservative” when it is, in fact, itself. That is, again, not a Catholic thing, but a human thing. Some people are legalistic, love rules, fear happiness, and are suspicious of joy. Some bureaucrats (including church bureaucrats) put the system before the person. Some “progressives” put ideology before persons. But it is simply not the case that this is the *essence* of the Church. It is, rather, the manifestation of sin. And once you’ve faced the fact that humans are sinners, you are halfway to the real essence of the Church: our need of salvation in Christ. Baptism is not a magic spell that makes you a Shiny Happy Person. It is the first installment of a lifelong program of chemotherapy against an aggressive and deadly form of cancer in the soul and in our culture. Catholics are a people on the road to recovery. Not a people who do not face setbacks. But without the treatment we don’t escape the cancer. We just die faster.
    My view of the abuse scandal is straightforward. Abusive priests and bishops who endangered people with their neglect should go to jail. Unfortunately, we laypeople, who run all the courts, staff all the prisons and police, and occupy all the juries, have mostly opted not to do that. Meanwhile, the Church has spent ten years reforming itself and now has policies in place to get rid of bad guys fast (that’s why all the cases you hear about are old ones). Why didn’t they do it before? Partly due to sin and partly due to stupidity. Some of it was institutional CYA and criminal neglect of duty. Some of it was bishops listening to the Enlightened Voice of Expert Lay Opinion (Lawyers and psychiatrists) who said these pervs should be rehabbed and sent back to their flocks. In short, the problem was that they *didn’t* listen to the Tradition, not that there is something in the Tradition that just really approves of raping children. It was sin. Not something in the soul of the Church Jesus founded. That’s because no mere mortal (nope, not even the Pope or the Blessed Virgin Mary) constitutes the soul of the Church. The soul of the Church is the Holy Spirit. We trousered apes just get to go along for the ride. Therefore the Church can be well described in the words of Hilaire Belloc: “An institute run with such knavish imbecility that if it were not the work of God it would not last a fortnight.” I like that.
    So being a Catholic doesn’t mean I have to believe and profess my bishops are not sinners and fools. The whole shooting works is, after all, founded on Peter, who was, in Chesterton’s fine phrase “a shuffler, a coward, and a snob–in a word, a man”. The Church is a communion of sinners before it becomes a communion of saints. It is a giant house that is under perpetual renovation and is always a mess–like each of us. The only thing to commend it is that God has chosen to take up residence there. The bricks of which it is built are pathetically cracked. But God is merciful.

    Read more: From: ncregister_com/blog/mark-shea/why-bother-with-such-a-corrupt-church#ixzz251dTURAA

    • angtangamo

       What’s your point in posting that? it’s useless.

      • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

        It really helps if one reads from start to finish.

  • joanne velasco

    No to RH Bill! Hindi ito ang sagot sa kahirapan ng sambayanang Pilipino. Gumawa ng mga batas na mas pakikinabangan ng mga Pinoy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mia.esteve.7 Mia Esteve

    Oppose the bill! A lot of women and families will suffer if we keep pushing for the wrong things.  Our already corrupt nation will really feel the burn if this successfully pass



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