Enrile defends Sotto against US blogger’s charge

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Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

Is Senate Majority Leader Vicente “Tito” Sotto III being crucified for lifting statements based on fact? Would his critics rather that he used falsehoods to defend his stand against the reproductive health (RH) bill?

Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile posed these questions as he defended a beleaguered lieutenant fighting against the proposed measure that has again divided this majority-Catholic country.

Sotto was called a “lying thief” by US-based blogger Sarah Pope for allegedly not being forthright in lifting portions from her blog quoting author Naomi Campbell McBride and using these to argue against the use of contraceptives.

Enrile and Sotto are the staunchest opponents of the RH bill in the Senate.

Sotto used McBride’s findings in a second speech against the RH bill on Wednesday to support his point about the dangers of contraceptives.

In another speech two days earlier, the senator said he and wife Helen had a son who died shortly after birth in 1974. Vincent Paul was conceived while Helen took contraceptives.

Local bloggers accused Sotto of plagiarism the day after the second speech was delivered. He denied lifting from Pope’s blog. He also pointed out that he and Pope were both quoting author McBride’s findings against the pill.

Public domain

Sotto’s chief of staff, Hector Villacorta, explained later that Philippine law still regarded the Internet as public domain and that no legal liabilities should be raised when information was taken from this source.

“Let’s not crucify Tito for telling the truth about what happened to his family. If the data he read were true, why can’t he use it to bolster his argument,” Enrile asked.

The Senate President said it was foremost that Sotto present data that were correct. “If Tito used (McBride’s findings) to explain why he is against the RH bill, it is because he wanted to warn the rest of us about the tragedy that happened to his family. Should we not respect that?”

Enrile also took former Health Secretary Esperanza Cabral to task for demanding that Sotto present Vincent Paul’s death certificate. He said this was a “peripheral issue” that should not merit attention.

“If Tito found merit in (McBride’s) findings and repeated them in a speech, the issue is whether the data are  wrong and false. If the data (about the dangers of contraceptives) are correct, why can he not use them in his speech? He did not deny that the speech was a product of research. Meaning, there was attribution,” Enrile explained.

“Is there an idea in this world that was not copied from others? Even the word democracy is not indigenous to us. The concept was merely copied from others. We recognize it is an idea from the West. Once you release an idea to the public, unless you copyright it, it can be used,” he said.

Issue is truth

Enrile insisted the issue was whether Sotto’s data presented during the speech were true.

“He did it as a warning to others about the tragedy that occurred in his family. If I went to war, would I not warn others about its dangers as well?” he said.

The Senate has closed its period of interpellation or debate on the RH bill. Despite this, Sotto insisted on delivering his turno en contra—a series of speeches against the bill.

Enrile warned RH proponents this early of his plans for a face-off on the provision labeling contraceptives and other artificial methods of birth control like condoms and IUD as “essential medicines.”

“What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country,” Enrile asked. “In the case of a contraceptive pill, is pregnancy a disease that needs to be cured? Why do we need to prevent it?”

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  • quirinomayer

    There goes the senatorial ambitions of Jackie Enrile. To begin with,  being a questionable character, Jackie is a poor material for senator and only being carried in the surveys by his father’s name. With Enrile’s unreasoning rejection of the RH Bill, his son’s senatorial ambition will end in an abortion as the Catholics who are pro-RH Bill which the surveys say are 70 percent of the whole Catholic vote will most likely vote against Jackie to spite the senior Enrile.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

       Actually, the two are “Birds of the Same-Feather”…!

  • Guest

    When you do research always cite the source of anything (idea or concepts) otherwise your claims may be branded as false. Yes, the internet may be viewed as public consumption, you still need to cite your source to make your argument worthy for consideration. Without your source you will be treated as the source which is plagiarism.

    According to the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, to “plagiarize” means

    to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own
    to use (another’s production) without crediting the source
    to commit literary theft
    to present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.

  • mangtom

    Enrile is way off the mark. The issue is not whether what Sotto used information that is true or not. The issue here is plagiarism. True or not, he used the information without attribution. Isn’t Enrile supposed to be lawyer? If he is, I would not take him as my lawyer even if I committed a minor violation as jaywalking. 

    Instead of telling his bata to apologize and redeem him, he is encouraging him to misbehave. Now he is the Senate President. It is shame we have a senate president with that kind of mentality.

    For heaven’s sake, just apologize, Soto. Apparently, your parents did not teach you simple thing as apologizing when you commit a mistake. Truly, you are “mal creado”. Comprende?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Sotto’s son died in 1975, the contraceptive Diane he used was put out in the market 1978.SOTTO LYING THIEF RESIGN!

    • otoling

      Lying thief, talaga naman.  Puro pa-cute sa TV, ngayun mag-TV sa taombayan.

  • gudwil2all

    juan, ang disease ng pinoy ay kalibugan
    contraceptive ang gamot nito

    • manual47

      LOL….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4YOCRZDE5JBDT7UGI54KTZD5M Jpb

    ganyan talaga pag nagbabasa ng speech, kahit hindi naiintindihan ay sige lang at sa susunod ay lip sync na lang. kapag ganyan kasi na trabaho ay dapat umaandar din ang utak kahit gaano kahina at kaliit yung utak kung meron man. ang masaklap nito ay mataas pa rin ang apog para humingi ng paumanhin dun sa ninakawan ng script at inismall pa yung blogger lang na yon. 

    • otoling

      Tama ka, I agree.  Si Sotto ba naman, maanong tumigil na siya sa pa-cute niya sa TV show nila at asikasuhin niya ang pagiging genuine na senador.  Speech lang kasi nihinde nire-reasearch mabuti.

      Kapabayaan ang lingap para  kay Sotto. 

  • joe__bloggs

    “What does a condom cure or prevent?”
    Sadam Hussein, Hitler, Stalin and in your case Jackie …

  • NYPinoy

    It is God’s will that the blogger’s name is Sarah Pope, thus we have headlines that say,

    “Pope called Sotto as ‘lying thief'”  Priceless. :D

  • Beguine

    This debate makes you want to grab Enrile and Sotto’s head
    and knock them against each other, in the old-fashioned manner
    of last resort in putting some sense into them.

    Never mind Sotto, he’s dumb, but Enrile is supposed to be old and 
    wise and should be respected if only for that and having already
    one foot in the grave. Pero si Enrile tumatanda nang 
    paurong at akala ni Enrile lahat ng sinasabi niya ay tama. 

    Alas, nahawa si Enrile kay Sotto! 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

       “Birds of the same feather” naman yung dalawa.., di ba…?

  • mangtom

    Question: yon bang pag-iyak ni Soto noong isnag araw, plagiarized din?

    • tekateka

      Hindi yun ‘plagiarized’ mangtom… ‘Faked’ iyon…

  • arthur1401


    “If Tito used (McBride’s findings) to explain why he is against the RH bill, it is because he wanted to warn the rest of us about the tragedy that happened to his family. Should we not respect that?” Enrile asked.
    Enrile, the truth of the matter is that the only truth sotto mentioned in his speech was the death of his son. nothing more. The rest were all lies. 

    Sotto denied that he plagiarized while villacorta said, he copied from sarah. Between the 2, villacorta is more credible because he was responsible for writing the speech while sotto only read the speech. sotto did not even understand that what he was reading was contrary to the ideals that he was trying to emphasize, as what sarah has said. It appears then that by quoting sarah’s blogs, Sotto or his staff did not read Mcbride’s book. They were too lazy to open the book and had to quote sarah’s research works for convenience.

    Enrile, whether sotto is Pro or anti RH is irrelevant. The relevancy here is that sotto copied the works of sarah without attribution, not mcbride and that is plagiarism.

    As what blogger said in other forum which i am copying here, he compared this stealing incident to a scenario in a classroom that went like this: 

    teacher-why did you cheat and copy the answers of your seatmate in this exam?
    Student-we studied the same book, so i can copy his answer. 
     

     

  • Hey_Dudes

    If only SC associate justice Castillo suffered enormous backlash from his own plagiarism and booted out from the court, Sotto and others will think twice or as many times possible about copying someone’s work.  The fact Mr. Castillo did not and got only a slap on the wrist, we Filipinos will always be known around the literary world as plagiarist.

  • Morskie52

    “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? You can answer it yourself you dirty old man.

  • https://twitter.com/rj_nieto Rj Nieto

    Ano yon? Parang sinabi na rin ni Enrile na balewalain ang delikadesa at tamang pag-uugali?

  • https://twitter.com/rj_nieto Rj Nieto

    Senator Enrile: What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? 

    RJ: Misery.

  • tekateka

    Manong, alam namin na magaling ka! but your time is Up… overstaying na po kayo… umunlad ka na, pero ang mga Pilipino ay Hindi pa rin !!!

  • mangtom

    tekatekaCollapseHindi yun ‘plagiarized’ mangtom… ‘Faked’ yun…Sagut: Hindi bale, tekateka. Hindi naman alam ni Soto(t) and difference. 

    • jinx

       Haha, ayos ang joke!

  • rpjwarrior

    Sen. Enrile should know that from medical point of view, pregnancy is a disease. The fetus is an invading parasite and the mother is an infected host – a situation open to a lot of possible complications in both the mother and the fetus. Every doctor knows this and would manage pregnancy as such. Religion and superstition probably look at it differently. If you are the mother, would you allow  religion and superstition – or even jurisprudence – to dictate how your pregnancy is to be managed?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

      @”rpjwarrior”…, Methinks, your argument has gone, “off-track”.
      How could you say that “pregnancy is a disease”.
      It is one of the “most important natural thing”
      The propagation of the specie.

      • rpjwarrior

        Before commenting ask doctors or better read some medical journals. Ask also Sen. Enrile and Sotto to do so.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

        Then prove your allegation that “pregnancy is a disease”;
        Medical journals or not.., I still say that “Pregnancy is NOT a DISEASE”

        BTW…, I am Pro-RH.

      • rpjwarrior

        This is a medical knowledge and I do not need to prove it. You need to read on it. Or better still go to PGH. Nandun ang the best medical students and doctors in the country. They will tell you that. Meantime e google mo na muna “pregnancy as disease”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JXTJXMBA24KTV764367C4OD5EU Kortes Vicente

         Maybe that medical knowledge do exist but they are wrong. Meanwhile I want to do exactly as you suggested.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JXTJXMBA24KTV764367C4OD5EU Kortes Vicente

         There you go. I’ve read one article about your argument. I could see you interpet the issue differently. From what I’ve read, Pregnancy is viewed by some as a disease due to it’s possible death causing effect to the mother but not because the fetus is in itself a disease. You took the issue out of context. I’ll read more anyway but try to get the exact context of it. Thanks

      • vince_bugaboo

        kudos to you, kortes.

      • rpjwarrior

        Good. But finish your research and talk with as many doctors as possible before making conclusions then come back. Also be open minded.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

        If as you insist that “pregnancy is a disease”…, THEN why is it against the Law to “cure” it via ABORTION.

        How could a “Natural Thing” like Pregnancy  be a Disease.
        The Medical Book that you have been reading should be banned.

        If we “Eradicate” this so-called disease from the planet…, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE HUMAN RACE…?
        & for any other mammal specie, for that matter.

        Pregnancy, per se, is NOT A DISEASE.
        No if or buts…, or “open-mindedness”.

        Even if a hundred thousand angels were to swear to something that is wrong…., will not make it right.(or words to that effect)_

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

         Words of advice:
        DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT DOCTORS TELL YOU.

      • tagay

        “Go to PGH nandun ang the “best” medical students and doctors in the country.” Excuse me ..how did you make that conclusion? Did you make a detailed and thorough investigation regarding your allegation? If not,
        then clam up and keep your opinion to yourself. “A little learning is a dangerous thing”

      • tamumd

        By no means it’s a walk in the park! It’s brings so many physiologic changes in a pregnant person that it causes anemia, hyperemesis, melasma, varicous veins, swelling face, arms/hands/legs, could cause gestational diabetes, pre-eclampsia, eclampsia..not to mention bleeding risk from conditions such as placenta previa and abruptio placenta, the potential for cephalopelvic disproportion causing difficulty in childbirth and the need for Ceasarian section! It aggravates diseases like lupus and hereditary angioedema. Pregnancy could kill a woman with Primary Pulmonary Hypertension, valvular heart disease and cardiomyopathy. May not technically be classified as a disease but pregnancy is by no means benign!

    • Barak_O

      you’re one wannabe parasite

      would it had been better if your mother dewormed you?

      • rpjwarrior

        Before commenting ask doctors or better read some medical journals. Ask also Sen. Enrile and Sotto to do so.

    • rpjwarrior

      When science and superstition clash, there really shall be no common point for meeting of the minds. But the signs of the time point to the successful passage of RH bill into law in the same way as the successful impeachment and conviction of CJ Corona.

  • filipinaskoh

    SOTTO IS A LIAR!

    He spread malicious lies about RHbill- he said it is about abortion

    He spread malicious lies that WHO and other well known organization are behind RHbill and will eventually introduce abortion

    He spread malicious lies regarding the death of his son as cause by contraceptives, when the mere fact he already died 37 years ago. The contraceptive pills had gone several development to achieve perfection and these are use by developed countries. Do you think they are too lax to let it have defect, when the mere fact it is their citizen who will be at risk.

    Plagiarism??? what else is new from a LYING THIEF.

    • Rigoberto_Doronila

      plagiarism is light compared to the killing of the unborn. read the bill again.btw, it was the staffer who plagiarized.but the good sen. should still apologize. the buck stops with him.but now, back to the real issues please. 

  • filipinaskoh

    “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent?” Enrile
    Answer: A LOT

    1. unwanted pregnancy
    2. Abortion from an unwanted pregnancy
    3. Street children – uncared by parents
    4. Having too many children- that the parents cannot raise anymore
    5  Ballooning population 

    It will give the parents the chance and the opportunity to raise their family the way they can afford it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3FJHPQ5EVM7JEYPRXGZL2SPT4 Catherine

      Do these diseases you mentioned are contagious? hehehee…

      • doncleo

         they are not personal but rather social disease.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QNG4ABWDIEQJ2TDPAAPYZHXW34 Brent

    why is enrile changing the issue? it was never about the veracity of the information gathered but the manner in which they were presented. bakit kahit simpleng high school student maliwanag sa kanila kung ano yung maling ginawa ni sotto, bakit pagdating kay enrile may justification na, para lang ipilit na tama daw. hindi na naman siguro bobo ang mga tao sa panahon natin ngayon para kumagat sa mga ganong pina-ikot na palusot. content could always be argued and debated, relative naman kasi yan at biased depende kung kaninong side ang pini-present kahit pa sabihing totoo, pero iba ang ethics. no one is questioning kung gano kagaling si sotto magresearch nung mga sinasabi ni enrile na totoo daw, what’s really at stake here is sotto’s integrity. He was never been crucified for telling the truth, as enrile claimed. the truth is: he will be forever crucified for not telling the truth… the truth that he plagiarized.

  • UrHONOR

    IT’s not NICE to go against a POPE….esp if you are a kaTOLik.

    Pati ba naman MATATANDA, e, pinapatulan pa ninyo?  Let the OLD DOG lie….let him bark if he wants to…nothing to be scared about him….he’s got no teeth to bite.

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    sotto and his wife FAULT THAT THEIR SON DIED DO NOT BLAME IT TO THE PILL

    DUH — U CAN GET THE PILL WHETHER THERE IS RH OR NO RH

    SO YOUR ST U P I D ARGUMENT OF BLAMING IT TO THE PILL IS NON SENSE

    • tekateka

       Sotto’s mother should have taken the Pill…

  • https://twitter.com/rj_nieto Rj Nieto

    Senator Enrile: What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? 

    RJ: Misery.

  • suburbanmother

    Up until now, even after so many years of explaining the role of condom in preventive medice (such as prevention of sexually transmitted diseases), Enrile still does not know what it (condom) does? Nagbibingihan ba itong si Enrile or playing dumb?  Sayang, I thought pa naman sana he has a lot of wisdom. If anything, he’s just a plain old stubborn man. haisst!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

    What else could Enrile do?
    Tao nya si Sotto.
    Eh, ano pa..?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/45YIBMNHBUP3CSS75JGQPK6V6Q Anamarija

    maswerte lang tayo kc pinanganak na tayo . madali nating sinasabi ang mga nasasabi natin sa ngayon. para sa akin tama c sen. enrile. nde sakit ang pagbubuntis n dapat gamutin. tayo ang mga nabubuhay ang dapat disiplinahin ang mga sarili natin pra mapigilan ang kahirapan sa mundong ito.

  • tekateka

    BABIES BORN VS. JOBS CREATED

    Minute:
    NSO: 3 babies born every 1 minute
    DOLE: 0 jobs created every 1minute

    Hourly:
    NSO: 180 babies born every 1hour
    DOLE: 48 jobs created every 1hour

    Monthly:
    NSO: 129,600 babies born every month
    DOLE: 34,560 jobs created every month


    Our ‘pig’ politicians can’t do the Math… but they can count Votes…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WEBQQWQDFI3HXAMQFTUHVVUHNU ame mojica

    Enrile and Sotto are both idiots. What the blogger has pointed out is for Sotto to acknowledge that his speech is taken from the  blog of the bloggers.What Sotto should have done is admit it and apologize for misleading the senators and the public then move on period. He is trying to save face na kung ano ano pang dahllan  pero huling huli naman word for word ang kopya.

  • vince_bugaboo

    “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country,” Enrile asked. “In the case of a contraceptive pill, is pregnancy a disease that needs to be cured? Why do we need to prevent it?”

    I can’t believe that a person like Mr. Enrile whose “reputation and caliber” as a senator precede him would thoughtlessly state this senseless kind of premise.

    A condom could at least prevent the transfer of a disease like HIV or AIDS, Mr. Enrile, and preventive measures are even better than a cure. Ask any hack worth his salt. How many Filipinos would have been infected and died from those mentioned above were condom not utilized by some of them?

    You know what, Mr. Enrile? Your position and perspective regarding treatment of any kind of human malady also reflect your attitude and approach toward the ills of our society and our country’s problem in general. No wonder that in your stint of being a “public servant-kuno” during all these past decades, you’ve made not much noticeable impact in terms of contributing to our progress except to your own, because we now know that you’d rather procrastinate, wait for a debilitating problem, physical or otherwise, to set in completely before you embark on a course of action to arrest it before its total onslaught.

  • Guest

    What is so difficult in citing sources of your research Mr Villacorta? Please let me know if you do not know how to cite sources and need help.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3FJHPQ5EVM7JEYPRXGZL2SPT4 Catherine

    Hehehe galing talaga ni Senate President Enrile. Pati ako hindi ko masasagot yong tanong niya hehehe..

    • doncleo

       may tanong ba?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WEBQQWQDFI3HXAMQFTUHVVUHNU ame mojica

    Enrile and Sotto are idiots. Sotto was caught cheating by giving an impression that his speech is based on an opinion of a doctor but the fact of matter is that is also the blog of the blogger word for word as well as her interpretation. Nahuli na ayaw pang umamin yun ang masaklap. Isang senador pa naman “flying thief” ? May basihan naman ang paratang.

  • OZBOYS

    I was impressed with Apo Juan Enrile during the trial of Corruptna SC ex- thief justice. But now I am having a doubt about Enrile if he deserve our votes. Sotto and the rest of his team are not just arrogant but really think they are all above the law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

    “POPE CALLS SEN SOTTO A THIEF…” as commented on by a previous bloger.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      SOTTO  LYING THIEF

    • tekateka

      POPE will surely dump Sotto in _HE L-L

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VIUM4BBODLUXNPTDSND4FVX4ZQ dodot

    the senate is protecting their own against accusations of plagiarism … but will impeach a member of he supreme court for plagiarism … ITS REALLY FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES…  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emilio-C-Reyes-Jr/1602496264 Emilio C. Reyes Jr.

    Senator Enrile missed the point regarding RH bill.It is not to prevent pregnancy..it is to control and plan your future family.Senator Sotto must not distort the facts about RH bill..HIS STAFF MUST BE FIRED FOR NOT TELLING HIM THE TRUTH.HIS SENSELESS TALKING BACKFIRE TO HIS CREDIBILITY …IF HE HAVE.SAY SORRY TO POPE.

  • brunogiordano

    ‘Enrile defends Sotto against US blogger’s charge’

    bakit tila pilit at walang init ang depensang sinabi ni ENRILE.

    ang ginawa ni ENRILE umikot lang.

  • Alajero

    …taking contraceptives after conception will ruin the fetus…that one make sense…but, taking it the right way…should not pose a problem….for Sen Sotto to inject his personal experience in the debate is an isolated case…it would serve the public better…if he espoused reviews from medical journal…but, the blogger indignation should not distract us from the main issue…the pursuit of TRUTH…
    …the RH bill will provide funding for responsible parenthood education…but, should never provide any assistance or funding for terminating pregnancy…and this is where WE DRAW THE LINE….

  • tekateka

    Nagsalita na ang ‘Santo Papa’… Si Sotto ay isang ‘Sinungaling’… maniwala na tayo… amen.

  • UrHONOR

    MAMAMATAY TAO; TRAYDOR; BABAERO; SUGAROL; KUPITERO; MANDARAYA; MAGNANAKAW; SINUNGALING; PUGANTE; KOMIKERO; GIMIKERO; SALAMANGKERO; BANTAY SALAKAY; PUNDILYO de esposo, esposa, y familia; MA-AARTE; CINCO-LARS

    Hulaan ninyo saan madaling makita ang mga nabanggit sa itaas.  Clue:Present and Future.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/45YIBMNHBUP3CSS75JGQPK6V6Q Anamarija

    “words does not give the light of christ increase the darkness”  mother theresa

    • UrHONOR

      GANUN ba kasama ang pananalita ni MTeresa?

  • Camillo

    Hay naku si Enrile, ipinagtanggol pa ang bobong si Sotto! Mas mukha tuloy bobo…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/45YIBMNHBUP3CSS75JGQPK6V6Q Anamarija

    mas marami dito ang nag judge lng ng kapwa pero di kilala ang sarili, at higit sa lahat hindi nakakatulong sa totoong issue.

  • dagohoy620

    Of course, Enrile will defend his puppy/puppet — the very same way he will also defend his many other puppies/puppets like his co-coup plotter Gringo Honasan, and Senators Jinggoy Estrada, Loren Legarda and Bong Revilla!

    We have a funny yet disconcerting picture at the Senate: Old Man Enrile surrounded by a bunch of washed-out entertainment figures and one military cast-out!

    • vince_bugaboo

      well, it was expected of enrile to utter something in defense of sotto…even inanity, as long as he opened his mouth,  green flies entering it notwithstanding.

  • doublecross

    whatever…..sayang ang pagka-senator mo , sotto!

  • http://www.facebook.com/perryutanis101 Perry Utanis

    Sotto a liar and a thieft!…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Kahit public domain ang blog at walang batas na umiiral tungkol sa blog, bilang isang senador sana kahit out of respect man lamang gawin niya ang tama. Ibig bang sabihin kung wala sa batas ay samantalahin ang pagkukulang?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Pag lawyers talaga nagsalita ang baluktot ay nagiging tuwid, ang mali ay nagmumukhang tama, ang guilty ay nagiging inosente lalo na kung colleague at kakampi mo sa issue ang dinedepensahan. 

  • jinx

    To quote Enrile, “What does an IUD or condom cure or prevent? ………. Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country?”

    Again, another rash indictment of the RH bill. When couples decided to avail of condoms or IUDs, they never cared about the population figure of the whole country. All they thought about was how to provide the best material and parental care to their children within their means, especially when they saw around them children of  big families in squatters’ area suffering in abject poverty. Couldn’t Enrile accept that couples want only the best for their children, and skirted away from the traditional mentality of looking at children as free-labor and family relief assistance?

    I know Enrile and Sotto have at some point in time availed of contraceptives with their wives. Why they are making a complete reversal now is self-explanatory.  Traditional politicians tend to be part in something more popular, more dramatic, and more pious.  They play the game of confession, then repentance, and then vindication. Wow, pang-Famas, siguradong pang-hatak ng boto.

    • spearheads

      Unresponsive comment and desperate twisting of Enrile’s view. When he mentioned IUD or condom, he relates it to the specific phrase of the RH Bill which is “ESSENTIAL MEDICINES” – which Enrile sought to be removed in the bill and which you deliberately omitted in your quote, either for convenience or because you just can’t answer it. Answer Enrile’s question which are:

      1. Are IUDs and condoms essential medicines?
      2. If so, what diseases does it sought to prevent or cure.

      If you can’t answer it then zip it.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        I just answered you in another thread. IUDS and condoms and birth control pills can save lives; if that does not make them essential, then there are no essential medicines.

        Condoms reduce the spread of numerous STDs. Syphillis, AIDS, etc. Birth control pills alleviate symptoms from those as minor as cramps to those as serious as ovarian cysts, which can require the removal of the entire ovary if untreated. And pregnancy can be life-threatening for women with preexisting conditions.

        I have answered you. Should you zip it then?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    Look,until now Ampatuans are not yet convicted because they are defended by a bright lawyer,brighter than Enrile.

  • doublecross

    mahiya ka naman sotto….pang eat bulaga ka na lang.
    shame on you…!!!!!!

  • spearheads

    Most of the critics of Sotto and Enrile in this and other websites, who are pro RH bill supporters, are the very first ones who exalted and wanted to put Enrile and Sotto in a pedestal when Corona was removed. This is a clear proof of these mongrels hypocrisy and “kuyog attitude” of yellowmobsters. Walang mga prinsipyo, blind followers of their bungling leader. 

    In the first place, Sarah Pope has no right to complain whatsoever. She is not an expert in contraceptives. She is in fact, a cook, a menu blogger. She admits that she just translated the work of Dr. Campbell-McBride, the same source that Sottoo credited in his speech. Anong gusto ng mga helong talelong na kritiko ni Sotto, si Sarah Pope and bibigyan ng credit sa halip na si McBride? Tingnan nyo kung nasa tamang pagiisip itong mga pro RH. Higit sa kahat, walang kapararakan ang isyu laban kay Sotto. Ang importanteng isyu ay kung makakatulong o makakasira ang RH bill? Hindi nila masagot ang sinabi o expose’ ni Sotto kaya “attack the messenger instead of the message” na lang ang huling baraha nila which proves a desperate predicament to their cause.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Kevin-O-Tung/1140574834 Bryan Kevin O. Tung

      i respect the opposition of sen. enrile of the RH bill. he didn’t made himself stupid. sotto is stupid. that’s why i didn’t vote for him. wala syang masyadong nagawa sa impeachment. his job may be done by any senator who is a majority leader.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

       It’s still plagiarism regardless of the source or the validity of the source material. As she translated the work and properly attributed it, her TRANSLATION is copyrighted material even if it’s freely available on the internet, and it is Pope’s words that were copied word for word.

      You also can’t claim that it’s an irrelevant issue because if this argument is irrelevant then Sotto’s original speech was also irrelevant. He is the one that introduced it, so anything goes in debunking it.

      And in fact I was very much against the removal of Corona, which was purely political, and I loathe Noynoy, who was elected not because of anything he did, but because his mother died. But even that is irrelevant, as the first half of your post is also an ad hominem attack, making it logically fallacious.

      However it is not an ad hominem attack to accuse Sotto of plagiarism because: 1) it is in fact plagiarism, which anyone that has gone to school at any level should know, and 2) he introduced the argument into the discussion, so it can be attacked as is on the merits of its construction.

      • spearheads

        Really? Define plagiarism, Eistein. If you can define it without mentioning “original piece of work or idea” then I will believe you.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        Merriam Webster: Plagiarizing is “to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own : use (another’s production) without crediting the source.”

        The ‘or,’ in that definition by the way, means that both are valid definitions. And ‘another’s production’ is the most legally important aspect.

        While the ideas of another may be harder to trace, the WORDS of another can be traced. This is why copyright law says that ideas cannot be copyrighted, but implementation is automatically copyrighted even without registration.

        I will explain it to you with Harry Potter. The idea of a child finding out it is magical and then going to a magical school cannot be copyrighted, as it is nearly impossible to find the source of the idea; hence the idea cannot be plagiarized. However, Harry Potter the character, Hogwarts the location, the text and implementation of the idea of a magical child as done by Rowling ARE copyrighted, and can be plagiarized.

      • Karabukov

        I agree completely.

        Sotto thinks (actually I blame Villacorta who should know better) it’s not plagiarism to use Sarah Pope words because Sarah was describing someone else’s original ideas. herculubus thinks likewise.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XZO4IVGR53W62JQD3PLBQDSYHI scotty

        Plagiarism is simply taking credit for something you are presenting as your own, when in reality it was someone else’s.  Whether it be an accidental oversight or done on purpose.

      • jeht2003

        Wanted perfect father ni Dolphy and Mrs. Doubtfire ni Robin Williams?

    • Bart

      What pedestal? They voted to oust Corona because it suits them. Cook at menu blogger lang pala ha, e bakit pati error ng sinulat ni pope kopyang kopya nila?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Kevin-O-Tung/1140574834 Bryan Kevin O. Tung

    iskul buluk sa senado!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JXTJXMBA24KTV764367C4OD5EU Kortes Vicente

    The end doesn’t justify the means. Sorry Sotto. Sorry Enrile. You pretend not to know this?

  • andrew lim

    Enrile’s age as well as Villacorta’s is why they cannot appreciate Internet age copyrights.

    If the plagiarism happened using books or magazine articles, they would understand it better.

    Plagiarism is corruption.

    Kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lolo.mo.73997 Lolo Mo

    Both JPE and Sotto are a lying thief. So what is new?

  • TomasRosario

    This incident only shows that Senator Sotto does not know what he is talking about.
    Neither does he know how to use the net for research.

    I wonder what kind of staff he has.

    The point raised by Senator Enrile is a non-sequitor.  Nangugulo lang siya sa kanyang pagkapilosopo.

    Because if the primary source of Senator Sotto’s argument or evidence is JUST a blog, then that evidence is suspect.  And with the discovery that Senator Sotto just lifted it outright,  we should just flush his entire argument down the toilet.

    Could a single opinion in a blog debunk years and hundreds of scientific studies?  Really?

  • JuanTamadachi

    Sen Enrile, you have just recently transformed yourself from a heel to a hero thru your excellent handling of the Corona impeachment trial. Why are you doing your best to revert to a heel again in so short a time by defending a comedian whose obvious lack of intellect compels him to plagiarize materials?? I think senility is finally catching up with you..

    • boyod

      i agree with you  but we have to respect of his being senile just imagine of his age but nevertheless, a talented ‘lolo’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BC6QKZWB4D7S4WBDHPQT2N3UJ4 Jun

    just stick to the issue. rh is immoral. wag nyo nang ilihis. 

    • boyod

      anong immoral na sinasabi mo, are you an alumni of Wanbol University pare ikaw yata ang lumihis sa katotohanan 

  • ardong

    It shows Sotto’s lack of in-depth knowledge of the issue at hand. Original discourse or copied, it shows a person’s inability to grasp the real pros and cons of this controversial RH bill. This guy is is just funny, comical  actor at that ( me paiyak-iyak pa man  din ) but bereft of logical bombshell as he claimed to have. He is not a  credible witness because no proof can substantiate the cause of his son’s death was due to contraceptive, but I can only surmise the cause might be due to his diluted sperm count brought about by his previous womanizing left and right ( remember pepsi paloma and others? ) 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6R2QAY7UWNJMTCRTED3JZXPIA Joey

    as usual, pag sila na ang tinatamaan ng batikos, kampi-kampi sila. pwe!

    wala naman problema sa pangongopya ng information na sasabihin sa privilege speech… imortante lang na sabihin kung saan nanggaling ang kinopya! that is the crux of the principle against plagiarism!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2WTTL6FMGU4D7YZQNHAXBVO2DU Betz Chui

    He plagiarized it, he copied it, in many parts en toto,  period!  He should just apologized. End of story.

    • JuanTamadachi

      Sotto won’t apologize because doing so would expose him for what he really is – a comedian with a low i.q., who has no business being in the senate.. 

  • Edgar Lores

    Who do we attribute the word “democracy” to?

  • JosengSisiw1

    That’s the kind of man he is. He always make us laugh. In short Kenkoy. Next time dont bring his kind to our senate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/terencetevesofficial Terence Teves

    dinamay pa si rizal nung chief of staff nya, imploring sarah to take their side, like paki explain bakit kelangan gaawin ni sarah yun eh ang reklamo nya is na plagiarize ang web content nya? saka issue sa pilipinas ang RH bill, ano naman pakialam ng isang amerikano sa issue na ito? aminin nyo na lang na tinamad ang researcher nyo i para phrase yung original content. at palusot pa kayo na pareho nyo lang kino quote ang same doctor.

    get this: silent night is a christmas song which is a public domain song, meaning expired na ang intellectual property rights sa kanya, pero si mariah carey may version ng kanta na ito na hindi pwede gayahin ang pag kaka areglo, istilo, at kung nao man ang dinagdag nya.

    GANUN ANG GINAWA NYO, KINOPYA NYO YUNG GINAWA NI SARAH VERBATIM, DI NYO MAN LANG INIBA KAHIT KONTI.

    ano tawag nyo dun?

  • kayanatwo

    19aug2012

    what a superfluous “b.s” coming from enrile.  really, why juan dela cruzl has to accept garbage-talks from these taxpayer’s parasites.  

    sotto was caught with ” a smoking gun” on his hand, and up until the present, enrile is still bending over backwards to defend his “boy”. only the “trapos” would do such thing. (t)hey all stick together like “velcro”.

  • Bato’ng Bantilis

    That’s so trivial.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

    Ideas are rarely original and even when they are, they are not copyrighted, but the *implementation* of ideas can always be traced and is always automatically copyrighted whether it is on the internet, on the radio, on TV, or in a movie theater. 

    And even when something is public domain, one can plagiarize it by the very definition of plagiarism.

    It is embarrassing that our country elects senators that are willing to lie and distort the law to protect themselves even when they are caught in indisputably public ways. If you listen to Enrile and Sotto, plagiarism doesn’t exist then, and can never exist.

    There are a number of diseases the spread of which is prevented by condoms. There are also a number of conditions that are alleviated by birth control pills, ranging from cramps, to much more serious ovarian cysts that if untreated can require that the entire ovary be removed.

    • bgcorg

      If a spread of a disease is really prevented by condoms and cramps, ovarian cysts, etc. are alleviated by birth control pills, the USE of the samNe are not for contraception and is morally permissible.  In the case of codoms and birth control pills which, by the very design of the device or chemical composition, intention and use thereof, contraception directly RESULTS, the action, which takes its definition from the purpose thereof is contraceptive, against the rights of the unborn, and are used to frustrate life itself.  In other words, pregnancy is not a disease for which you would need medicine; stopping pregnancy with something that avoids moral responsibility is not human whose acts naturally partake of the “oughtness” there for.  The universal principles of Natural Law, “do good and avoid evil” or “do not do unto others, what you do not want them to do unto you,” are not served in the cases you enumerated.  When something’s ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

      Poverty, if you will is a “social” evil, not an individual disease for which you would need artificial contraception, not conceding.  But, clearly why some people live in slums, esteros, under bridges and dump sites is not because of overpopulation but over-concentration of people in urban and urbanizing places in the country.  They thought that by transmigrating to the cities, they could have better lives. When we go down deeper into an analysis why there is so much abject poverty in the country, it is not because the very “dregs of society” who “multiply like rabbits” like their situation.  It is because they do not have opportunities as we may have: they are in need of a decent house they can call home; of food, clothing, jobs, livelihood, skills training and education for their young ones; they are in need of food and other prime necessities of life; they are not developed as full human beings, the very purpose of civil government on the earth!  The latter cannot just decree to kill the unborn or prevent their becoming fully human without directly addressing poverty or asking its citizens for national discipline, self control and sacrifice, to face up to their responsibilities or risk the future of the young, if indeed the problem is overpopulation.

      If the government really insists on overpopulation as the problem, when really it’s not, why embark on an aggressive national policy and program of birth control?  We only have a current 1.8 population growth rate compared with the higher 2.1 that would ensure a healthy “replacement rate.”  Adopting a LAW on population control would only plunge the country deeper into the other extreme from which it may be difficult for the country to recover from. The billions of pesos over generations to actually turn this country’s youth into the “Hope of the Fatherland” by contraception and the culture it brings, will destroy the ideals and higher aspirations of the youth for a better country and a better future.  BETTER USE THE MONEY DIRECTLY TO FIGHT POVERTY AND ESTABLISH A JUST SOCIAL ORDER.

      The rh bill must go entirely and more specific legislation should be passed to develop our land and people so that proper distribution of human settlements and adequate jobs and training can be shared, and equal access to primary health care especially in rural areas and education available to all even in the remotest places could become available to young Filipinos who,truly, are “worth dying for.” There is no need to adopt a contraceptive culture that is already one foot in, even as it boldly proclaims that it is not pro-abortion. Purist “pro-rh advocates know that they are really fighting for the legislation of artificial contraception, abortion, divorce, same sex marriages, pre-marital sex, teen pregnancy and free sex. They are not telling people about it but pressuring countries to change family values, culture and tradition will surely weaken society. What follows next is something the majority of us do not know.

      A bill which hides its true intentions and incorrectly states the problem to sell the country out to foreign interests does not deserve to be a law for Filipinos, much less become a national policy.  NO TO THE RH BILL!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         The medical validity for contraception was being attacked, so I defended it. The defense is valid.

        Also, nowhere in the RH Bill is there anything about legalizing abortion. This is pure fear-mongering to distort the issue and appeal to emotion. This leads to this, that leads to that, a story about what might happen instead of what does happen and what IS needed.

        Your attack that overpopulation is not a problem and that the money is better used to fight poverty is a separate issue.

        This is incorrect. Overpopulation is an immense problem. Just 30 years ago there were about 20 million fewer Filipinos. 20 million is the population of some entire countries. Did our country’s economy grow at the same pace to match? Did our roadways grow to accommodate 20 million more in that time? Do we have the money to make more schools for all those people? No.

        Assisting the poor with contraception can greatly improve their quality of life. Instead of having 10 children, each of which costs money to shelter, feed, care for, and school, a family can choose to only have 2. Those 2 can have the chance at a better life and in turn give a better life to their own children, instead of 10 children finding 10 other poor children resulting in a third generation of 100 from the original pair of parents, all of whom produce garbage, need educations, need jobs, etc. Having 2 children instead of 10 could mean the difference between being able to send those 2 children to college and 10 homeless people on the street who have no skills and no hope to rise beyond their circumstances.

        If we look at the cost-effectiveness aspect, how much does one child cost to feed, raise and educate? How much does the transportation system have to grow to accommodate one more? What if that number isn’t one, but 14? Helping the poor choose how many children they want to have helps them, and also helps the country by giving us time to grow the infrastructure, and for the economy to provide enough resources to give them, and to eventually have jobs for them.

        Finally, if you have religious objections to contraception, nothing in the RH Bill forces you to participate. Education, and informing people of their choices does not impose anything on you.

      • bgcorg

        Your defense of contraception is not valid.  You are obviously subscribing to the Guttmacher Institute tenet that contraception only starts with pregnancy, not the fertilization of the ovum by the sperm.  As such, your defense of contraception is flawed from the very start.  To say that your defense is valid is self-serving!

        The protestation of promoters of the rh bill that they are not for abortion, even including a cotilla to formally express it, is in reality a farce and a lie.  Everybody knows that the advocates of “reproductive rights” are for the legalization of artificial contraception, abortion, divorce, same sex marriages, teen sex, free and premarital sex as part of those rights: in short, freedom from all kinds of restrictions under the guise of “human rights.”  Contraceptives are already abortifacient, abortive and are in fact abortion, depending on whether they prevent conception from taking place (at fertilization, prevent the implantation of the zygote to the endometrium or flushing the unborn human out which is already downright abortion.  Thus it is all trickery, and woe to this country to be hoodwinked into the trap laid out by ultra feminists and corrupt legislators.

        The real issue is using the billions of pesos over generations to impose an aggressive legislated birth control national policy that would even exempt contraceptives as essential medicines from the payment of taxes and burden taxpayers with the bill to foot the purchase of condoms, pills, injectables, devices, procedures and contraceptive services.  It is the real issue here and cannot just be dismissed as you did.  Instead of the procurement of contraceptives over generations, the money could be better added for human development, giving the very poor hope and establishing a just social order in the land.

        When there’s a will, there’s a way.  If we directly tackle poverty and corruption, and not go about it in a roundabout manner, overpopulation, if a problem at all will not happen but would be within healthy limits.  No, the problem is not overpopulation but using our young human capital, able and competent, to sustain consumption.  What we need to do more is to entice local and foreign capital to keep pouring in to provide steady job opportunities, livelihood, education and skills training.  Human settlements should be accessible to the very poor also to remove the stigma of living in slums, esteros, dumpsites and under bridges.  These opportunities would include the opportunity to do so increasing productivity and equalizing the playing field in society.

        Mathematics is a tricky matter.  Having less children is not necessarily good.  “For something to be good, it must be good in all its parts” (St. Thomas Aquinas) and countries which had embarked on an aggressive legislated birth control policy have shown that they have difficulty to reverse the paucity of human births that Peter F. Drucker already warned us about (See “Management Challenges in the 21st Century”).  To draw a general conclusion here is not warranted, as examples can be cited where a big number of brood debunks the myth).

        The problem is not in the cost of less children over the cost of many children but the overconcentration of people in urban and urbanizing areas in the cities.  But, they were there precisely, in the first place, to find a better life than the one they enjoyed in the provinces.  They are in search of work and social justice and a responsive government who failed them.  Having more children than they can afford or educate comes about by the frustration and hardship to struggle everyday to survive so that sex becomes the only free recreation and a convenient release from despair and frustration.  Give them bread instead of cake when they ask for bread!  First things first, not decimate the number of the poor whose only sin is their being poor.  Without admitting it, by insisting on “overpopulation” instead of poverty and social injustice and government neglect, one is instead creating a smokescreen so that the real problem cannot be identified.

        Education and informing people about their choices do not include automatically disparaging the use of Natural Family Planning Methods as a more unreliable method and preparing the couples to adopt artificial contraceptive methods.  If people have been liberated from want and they experience social justice in the land, there would be no problem of responsible parenting at all.  It will come naturally, not induced artificially.  It is not wise to put the cart before the horse.  

  • isidro c. valencia

    Sotto is telling the truth about abortion and effects of causing abortions pills. 
    Some bloggers even quoted or lifted statements without giving credits from a Bible, Koran, writings of poets, and writers. But that is understandable. 

    Let us not deviate the issue by focusing on plagiarism. The issue here is RH BILL. You can answer point by point on Sotto’s arguments to avoid confusion. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      1) They are not abortion pills.

      2) Millions upon millions of women have taken them for decades. They are among the most studied and safest drugs today. No credible, peer-reviewed scientific study has EVER linked the pill to the sort of birth defect that killed Sotto’s son. If the pill can be misused, that is true of all medications–even aspirin can poison you if taken incorrectly and strong antibiotics have numerous side effects. The drugs that are prescribed for tuberculosis can cause toxic hepatitis.

      3) The pill Sotto claims his wife was taking was not even available yet when his son died. It was available 3 years afterwards.

      4) Sotto’s entire argument is fear-mongering based on no facts at all. Strawmen are created, an appeal to emotion is made, he tries to generate fear that all this has to do with abortion when in fact the RH Bill would reduce abortions in the Philippines.

      He makes up all these supposed American and UN motivations to attack the sovereignty of our country for no other reason than to somehow corrupt us–if this is true, then one can make the counter argument that the entire anti-RH Bill agenda is an attempt by foreign powers to attack our sovereignty, since it is the Catholic Church which is against it and the Church is not answerable to Filipino citizens, with leaders from other countries and with a capitol that is its own sovereign state inside Rome.

      5) It is not deviating from the issue to bring up the plagiarism because Sotto introduced the argument, which means attacking it as plagiarism is a very relevant logical exercise.

      6) Your comment about the Bible, Koran, etc, is completely irrelevant as well as being implicitly wrong. Plagiarism is case by case and plagiarism is plagiarism regardless of whether it is from a blogger, a poet or writer.

    • bellabtennis

      Isidro, when you have a message to tell, you must choose the right messenger. Christ did not pick a sinner to deliver the Ten Commandments. Sotto has been telling outright lies. He has been stealing someone else’s work. This is the kind of person the anti RH people have chosen for an advocate. Thus the messages you have been trying to impart have totally lost credibility and weight. Garbage.

    • sowhatifimfilipino

      There are bloggers and there are bloggers. There are those who write because they THINK they are writers. And there are researchers who write what they have researched and acknowledge their sources. Those who “quoted or lifted  statements without giving credits from a Bible, Koran, writings of poets and writers” and not even enclosing them with quotation marks are either liars or thieves or plain ignorant of rules that lawyers like themselves should know in the first place. 

    • jeht2003

      Understandable Mr. Editor? If you don’t mention the source of your statements, it is understood that you are passing it off as you own.
      “Sotto is telling the truth about abortion” We are discussing the RH Bill, not Abortion Bill.

      “and effects of causing abortions pills” You’ll have to reconstruct this one as the meaning is not clear. Could be your last counted kick?

    • Karabukov

      As far as I know, the RH bill prohibits abortion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    To vilify a great man is the readiest way in which a little man can himself attain greatness.
                                                                                         Edgar Allan Poe

    • sowhatifimfilipino

      And … who’s the great man here? Sotto? Ouch.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        just a quote…..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q2EFFJUNBLYFKXTUS6CZEA6GVA Waldy

         bagtit… c enrile great man naks…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        It always depend on one’s perspective…

  • Taiko_Kauna

    Sotto should have given credit to Pope,not assume that he is more popish than pope by trying to make it appear it’s his original idea.

  • kruger

    To borrow from Cong. Fariñas, Enrile is making “palusot” in behalf of his comedic second Tito Sotto!

    Typical of that nasty attrition that these politicos “ay hindi pahuhuli ng buhay!”  Damnnn….

  • PikonNaKami

    It also seems that Diane, the drug he claims to have been the cause of his son’s death in 1975, was officially available in the Philippine in 1978.

  • bellabtennis

    Enrile has just shown his inability to think about issues objectively and intelligently. In desperate effort to save his drowning cohort, he jumps in the water with leg cramps.  He was unthinking when he said Sotto’s use of entire paragraphs of someone else’s words/ideas was not theft or plagiarism. He did not think when he said condoms do not prevent disease. He said Sotto’s speech was fine because the message was accurate–ha, he missed out on Sotto’s outright lie about his wife taking the Diane pill a full 3 years before its launch in the market. If these guys are such staunch catholics, why do they condone and even personally promote theft, lies and hypocrisy?

    • spearheads

      Quot blabbering and misleading the issues. Instead, if your are a good defender of RH bill, answer Enrile’s specific questions because this are his main issues on RH bill focusing on the phrase “essential medicines” of the bill, thus:

      1. Is IUD or condom and essential medicines?
      2. If so, what kind of disease does IUD or condom seek to prevent or cure?
      3. Finally, is pregnancy a disease?

      Tama na ang spin, walang mangyayari dyan sa “alleged plagiarism” brouhaha ninyo. Kung menu sana ng pagluluto ang kinopya galing kay Sarah Pope, maniniwala akong may “badge of plagiarism” kahit public dominion dahil expertise ni Sarah Pope ang pagluluto. In fact, it is the issue of plagiarism which is non siquitor because the topic is RH bill.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        My reply to this with a link is under moderation, so I’ll do it again without the link as it may take forever before the moderated post is allowed.

        1) In response to Enrile:

        There are a number of diseases the spread of which is prevented by
        condoms. There are also a number of conditions that are alleviated by
        birth control pills, ranging from cramps, to much more serious ovarian
        cysts that if untreated can require that the entire ovary be removed. There are women for whom becoming pregnant is life-threatening because of preexisting conditions.

        2) The plagiarism is not alleged. It is proven. You can look at the text of his speech and see excerpts from her predated blog word for word. It is relevant to attack this because he is the one who introduced the argument. To say that the plagiarism is not relevant is to say that Sotto’s very argument was not relevant in the first place.

        3) It doesn’t matter what Pope’s expertise is. Plagiarism is plagiarism regardless of who does it to whom.

        4) Copyright violation has serious legal consequences, even in seemingly minor cases, which the senators are willfully ignoring.

        A real world example is author Roni Loren using a copyrighted image on her blog, not realizing the legal implications. Even though she took it down immediately, she was still liable and had to pay the original photographer. She never claimed she took the photograph, and she apologized immediately, and she STILL had to pay.

        Another example is Feanne’s works on Deviantart being stolen by Lendle Romero, who had to take down all his work that was derivative of hers. Something being on a blog or being freely available on the internet does not automatically make it public domain and copyright law still applies.

      • Jazzeroo

        Way to go!! May your tribe prosper.

      • spearheads

        Ang hinap mong umintindi. Sabi ko ng hindi isyu yang kay Sarah Poe kundi RH bill ang isyu at binigay ko yang mga katanungan ni Enrile pero you just mentioned in passing. Enrile ask about IUD and condom and you mentioned only condom and pills that prevents cramps. Disease ba ang cramps? You said condom prevents disease. WRONG! If any, it prevents transfer of venereal disease not the the disease itself. It does not cure any venereal disease. You did not mentioned IUD. You mentioned pills prevent ovarian cyst? Tell it to the Marines. It’s the other way around. You did not answer whether or not pregnancy is a disease for obvious reason. The rest of your rhetoric is non sequitor and pigments of your imagination which needs no answer. If I will rebut it I will be just glorifying your nonsensical position. Have a nice day.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        Now you’re outright distorting the argument.

        1) Cramps are a form of suffering. Alleviating that suffering is a valid medical use.

        2) To say that condoms prevent disease is the summary of their effect. Condoms prevent std transmission–therefore they prevent the acquisition of disease. Therefore condoms prevent disease.

        3) IUDs prevent pregnancy. I already said that pregnancy is life threatening for some women. Therefore IUDs can be an essential remedy for these women.

        4) Pills prevent ovarian cysts. This can be found in many places, such as WebMD: “Estrogen and progestin birth control pills prevent ovulation. Functional ovarian cysts do not form without ovulation.”

        5) You are misspelling “non sequitur.” You also used ‘pigments’ when you meant to use ‘figments.’ All my statements are either sourced or easily confirmed with minor research; so my conclusions are supported by my statements. I don’t think you understand what non sequitur means.

        6) You are the one putting together arguments without citing any sources at all. It is you who are using rhetoric based only on your imagination. Or you are trolling.

      • JuanTamadachi

        As Spock the Vulcan says: 
        “Live long and prosper”, Sturm D. I find your posts well researched and most enlightening. Hubba great one…

      • spearheads

        No need to quote any authority. Research shows that AIDS can be transferred either through saliva exchanges through or oral sex. What do you what the filipinos do, put condoms on their tongues? It’s absolutely clear now that condoms and IUDs do not prevent AIDS or it’s transfer. So. anong gagawin mo sa condom at IUDs kung “essential medicines” ito sabi ng RH bill? Goodbye!

  • sowhatifimfilipino

    Naomi Campbell? The model??? Jeez, people, get names straight. It’s Dr. NATASHA Campbell-McBride. 

  • Ennimac

    Stop being hypocrites. Contraceptives are available in drugstores.  Filipinos use them.  The poor cannot afford them, hence the RH bill.  Issues should be limited to why we should make contraceptives “affordable” or “available” to those who cannot afford it but need it.  If pills do too much harm, why are they not banned totally?  There’s too much talk that muddle the issue.

  • Pert Cabatana

    Enrile, the lawyer and not the statesman, is talking. He is not addressing the issue of non-attribution of statements (almost word for word) which Sotto lifted from the blog of Sarah Pope. The responses of Enrile, Sotto, and Villacorta are classic examples of deflection and palusot.

  • rootsofhealth

    So Enrile want’s everyone to listen and take heed to Senator Sotto’s personal story, but doesn’t think that the facts of the story should be questioned because it is a “peripheral issue”. I am sad to see a respected lawyer like Enrile miss the point so entirely. I would have expected him to put aside friendship and religious belief and look at the issue through a legal lens. 

  • 711sense

    I think the issue is Sotto’s use of MS Pope’s blog and lied about it. When he found out that he was wrong, he was not man enough to accept the truth. Instead, he made excuses that the blog is not copyrighted, and that he is immune from suit, etc… Mr. Enrile, problem with you politicians is, you can’t accept the truth. When you found out that it is true, you first tried to dazzle them with your brilliance. When that doesn’t work you tried baffle the people with your BS. You should be ashame of yourself. The best thing to do was to admit guilt, then apologizeso life can move on.

  • Ommm

     “Philippine law still regarded the Internet as public domain and that no
    legal liabilities should be raised when information was taken from this
    source.”

    And the Philippines is considered such pirates it might just as well have the skull and crossbones as the national flag. Constantly copying peoples words, ideas,laws and concepts word for word as if they were their own…one wonders if this country contributes anything original to the human race…

    ““What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent?”

    The disease of poverty……….. ………….. ……………

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PKSL5H6B6CA5YFEI26JAQTR2EM perry

    ang itinutulak ni sotto ay ang kanyang oposisyon sa rh bill, at may basihan din naman ang mga sinasabi nya, ang mali lang ay hindi nya ibinigay ang credit sa taong dapat bigyan ng kredito, isa ang ang hiling ng may akda ng artikulo kay sotto, humingi ng paumanhin at ang lahat ay ayos na, pero parang napakahirap para kay sotto na umamin na nagkaroon sya ng pagkukulang ayon sa ginamit nyang artikulo at pinapanindigan nyang di sya nagkamali o nagkulang, pero mismo ang isang tauhan nya ang umamin na ginamit nila ang artikulong iyon. ang issue ngayon ay, kaya ba ni sotto na umamin sa isang pagkakamali na kitang kita na ng maraming tao di lamang dito sa Pinas kundi maging sa labas ng Pinas? o paninindigan nya na wala syang pagkakamali… mas humahanga ako sa mga taong marunong umamin sa kanilang pagkakamali at humingi ng paumanhin sa taong kanilang nagawan ng kamalian… hipokrito ang mga taong tinatalikuran na lamang ang kanilang kamalian, lalo na kung lahad na ito sa madla…

    • KpTUL

       Aminin na kasi na nagopya at hindi na magkunwari na magaling ka ! Alam naman namin na walang alam yan si Sotto. Sige na nothing to lose hindi ka naman si Miriam. Kasi kung si Miriam yan iba na yung issue, nakakahiya pag aaminin. Pero Sotto yan ehhh … Nothing to lose !

      • sanjuan683

        Kaya ang bagong pangalan niya ngayon ay PIRATED Sotto. hehehehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    yes plagiarism ang isyu…..mali man o tama ang sinasabi ng kinopyahan mo, plagiarism pa rin yun kung kinopya mo word for word……dapat pinaraphrase man lang…nirumble ang sentences…pinalitan ang words with related words etc.

    • sanjuan683

      hehehehehehehe sa QUIAPO verson ay pirated. hehehehehe

  • JK1000

    Tuta ni Enrile si Tito Sotto

    • sanjuan683

      Aso naman ni Sotto si Enrile eh pareho lang sila hehehehehehehehe

  • 4thINFSgt

    Another moron in the senate. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Sen. Pres. Enrile being the most senior and the father-figure in the senate should not tolerate and pamper his “children” so that they will not become big-headed and spoiled brats like Sen. Sotto.

    • spearheads

      Enrile is an anti RH bill senator. Alangan namang tumahimik siya. Para ano, para matuwa si PNoy mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        My point is regardless of whether pro or anti RH, Sen. Sotto’s plagiarism should not be condoned by the Senate President as a matter of policy.

  • tra6Gpeche

    Wow! Even Senate President Enrile is making a “palusot.” I think most Filipinos in the Philippines are making the habit of “palusot.” Now he is talking about an idea in this world that was not copied from others and that democracy is not indigenous to Filipinos. He truly is a lawyer! He will arrogantly defend that Mr. Sotto did not copy Ms Sarah Pope’s blog. Or is it that Filipinos especially Mr. Enrile and Mr. Sotto are both ashamed or ignorant or dishonest to admit that Mr. Sotto plagiarized Ms Sarah Pope? What is so wrong for Mr. Sotto to admit that he is guilty of plagiarism? I thought these two Senators of the Philippines were professionals. Mr Fareed Zakaria admitted plagiarizing a New Yorker column and he did not lose his honor or his ego. As a matter of fact, everyone was impressed of him for admitting it immediately. If Mr Sotto did not copy Ms Pope, why would she call Mr Sotto, a Philippine Senator, a lying thief? If you wrote something and you copied exactly the same words of another person, you must at least have a decency to mention that certain person’s name. Why is it so difficult to understand that? Anyway, too much arrogance and narcissism of both Mr. Enrile and Mr. Sotto is a general rule in the Philippines. Filipino voters who voted them to become Senators should be accountable for this kind of self-serving lying politicians.

    • spearheads

      Enrile is not making palusot. He is not Sotto and Sotto is not Enrile.

      • sanjuan683

        Pareho lang sila dalawa no choice. hehehehehehehe

      • tra6Gpeche

        We might not be reading the same article. I am reading the title of this article written by Ms Cathy Yamsuan: Enrile defends Sotto against US blogger’s charge. Are you still with me? Or you are reading it differently. The way I see it, Mr. Enrile is Mr. Sotto and Mr. Sotto is Mr. Enrile. By arrogantly defending Mr. Sotto’s clear plagiarism, I consider Mr Enrile also a thief and a liar. And maybe not only in copying someone’s written words but also in something else. Additionally, I consider both of them to have too much vainglory.

    • sanjuan683

      hehehehehe malinaw na malinaw pirated ang sinabi ni Sotto in Quiapo version DVD pirated hehehehehehehehe

  • tgomeziii

    Sen. Tito Sotto is not being criticized for his position on the RH Bill. We respect his right to his own opinion. But he was caught in flagrante delicto plagiarizing. Cheating! Thieving other people’s thoughts and ideas……passing these as his original own……. and he got caught! That is what he is taken to task for. He was caught red handed utilizing a pack of lies dramatizing an emotional ploy as he sucked up to the bishops, obviously for personal gain.
    Today, by way of the Daily Inquirer’s editorial, he has been labelled an “intellectual fraud.” That label can no longer be lived down. By his own intentional chicanery, he is tainted forever!

    Ang bilis ng karma! Imbecility has a way of catching up with its practioners!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      And now, I will criticize his position on the RH Bill and show how little I respect his opinion, even should plagiarism and the issue of intellectual honesty be set aside.

      1) The pill has been taken by millions of women over decades. It is as safe as medication can get, as confirmed by numerous peer-reviewed scientific studies.

      2) His claims are suspect. Perhaps his doctor was just wrong, or he might be lying completely, as Sotto is lying at least about Diane, since that was not available to his wife when his son was conceived in 1975. That pill was apparently only available in 1978. If Bayer is incorrect about the date of availability of Diane (less likely than Sotto making it up or misremembering it), that still doesn’t change the fact that a single anecdotal experience does not equate a truth–attributing the cause of a birth defect to a specific drug requires scientific study, and studies have shown that the pill is like any other medication–it helps with some things, does something specific that it is prescribed for, and has side-effects that increases the risk for other things. Misusing medications can always happen. Aspirin can kill you, strong antibiotics can damage the liver, even vitamins can have negative effects.

      3) His arguments on the source of the RH Bill are appeals to emotion and fear and facetious straw man arguments. So and so UN organizations and Americans are pushing it on us because they want to attack our sovereignty? First, the source of the law does not automatically invalidate the need for it. That is an ad hominem attack; a logical fallacy. Secondly, even if it did, then as the entire anti-RH Bill agenda is driven by the Catholic Church, which does not answer to Filipinos but only to leaders that are in the sovereign state of the Vatican located in Rome, by Sotto’s very argument, being against the RH Bill is supporting the agenda of a foreign power.

    • spearheads

      Sotto did not pass his speech as his own. In fact, he repeatedly stated that it is based on research and he cited Dr. McBride as the original source and author of the book which is the originator of the ideas. If he passed it as his own then nobody will believe him because he is not an authority of any medicine or medical ideas. Therefore there’s no plagiarism. Don’t twist the facts.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         It’s you and Sotto who are twisting the facts. It doesn’t matter if the original ideas came from McBride. The rewording and phrases were Pope’s. Even failing to properly attribute authorship is plagiarism; it’s not a requirement that he claims the idea is his.

      • sanjuan683

        hehehehe mali ka pirated ang ginawa ni Sotto hhehehehehehehe

      • walastick

         Apparently, you’re not familiar with citations, referencing and other attributes of research. Both (Sotto and Pope) cited Mcbride as their source, but Sotto, or his researcher, due to laziness just copied bunch of phrases and sentences from Pope’s blog, verbatim, and passed it as their own. That’s plagiarism! And worse, they belittled the blogger. Ninakawan na, binastos pa! whew!!!

    • sanjuan683

      hehehehe kung baga sa mga DVD sa Quiapo na pirated malinaw na pina-rate niya ang speeches na ibang tao at palalabasin niya original yun at gawa niya. hehehehehehe huli ka na kung narito ka sa USA nakakulong ka na. hehehehehehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q2EFFJUNBLYFKXTUS6CZEA6GVA Waldy

    si sotto nabuko… dapat kasi aminin na lang niya na nangopya siya para tapos na ang gulo… simple lang naman ang hinihiling ni SARAH POPE… admit your mistake n say sorry… kay TATANG ENRILE yung words of wisdom na galing sa matatanda dapat naman yung tama at kinokondena ang mali, dahil ba kasama niya si sotto sa senado automatic na ipagtanggol na niya??? ENRILE pls use your position to admonish your collegaues  na tamad sa pagreresearch,  inaasa na lang sa mga staff kaya yun tuloy nabuko na nangopya…

    • sanjuan683

      Tignan mo si Corona inamin may pera siya eh di tapos ang usapan samantalang ikaw Sotto mukhang bandido mexicano dahil sa balbas at bigote ang baho tignan mo. Nagpapalusot ka pa. hehehehehehehe

  • KpTUL

    Plagiarism is a serious issue, in case the Philippine Senate does not know that. Now, I am just waiting to our self righteous congressmen to file another impeachment case against Sen Sotto (Oh. i forgot there is still another plagiarism -related case against one of the SC) Now, isabay nalng yand dalwang kaso para namn happy ang lahat.

    To Sen Enrile, Sotto crucified himself and not the people. it takes one to know one !

    • spearheads

      Read the Constitution as regards who are the officials who can be impeached bago ka magkalat dito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        Then why don’t you read about how pills can prevent ovarian cysts, read the studies on the safety of the pill, and read on copyright law before you post here too herculubus? You can’t answer any of my points against you except by resorting to emotion. You don’t get to tell other people to do their research first if you aren’t doing it yourself.

    • sanjuan683

      heheheheh crucify both of them Enrile and Sotto connivance hehehehehehehe

  • VeryDisgusted2

    If Sotto made it appear that the idea is his own, then it is plagiarism. If he quoted the source, then he cannot be accused of plagiarism.

    But Sotto’s chief of staff, Hector Villacorta is definitely wrong when he said Philippine law still regarded the Internet as public domain. If he is practicing his idea, he is like China, a blatant intellectual property violator. If he travels to US, he could he arrested at the airport as a tagged IP violator.

    • spearheads

      The source of Sarah Pope is Dr. Campbell-McBride as she admitted. The idea is not her own because the original author is McBride, Sotto credited McBride in both his spoeeches. It is just proper to cite McBride than Sarah Poe so there is no plagiarism. Don;t be disgusted with yourself,

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        The idea is not hers, but her specific summary and wording were copied word for word by Sotto, therefore Pope was plagiarized. It is not the idea that is subject to copyright law, but the implementation, and the text that Sotto copied was definitely from Pope. Also, Sotto plagiarized from a number of other bloggers too, as pointed out by Palanca award winner Miguel Syjuco.

      • VeryDisgusted2

        Unfortunately for Sotto, maybe the real plagiarizer is his chief of staff, Villacorta who has the weird idea of treating whole internet materials as public domain.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         When your employee plagiarizes something you used, responsibility is transmitted upward. So Sotto is a plagiarizer. Especially since at no time did Sotto say, “it was a mistake; my staff did it.” Instead, he is trying to reframe his actions and redefine what plagiarism is, as well as using “she’s just a blogger” and “I’m a senator and immune” which is worse. He makes all senators look bad with that kind of ‘I’m above the law; it’s like this because I say so” defense.

      • sanjuan683

        hehehehehehe eh talaga pala nangopia whatever you said eh talagang nangopia buking na buking na kayo. hehehehehehehe may paiyak-iyak pa palibhasa graduate ng iskul bukol sa Wannabol University kaya hindi makagawa ng sariling speech. hehehehehe

    • sanjuan683

      Pero kapag supreme court justice ang nangopia sasabihn nila plagiarism at i-impeach nila. Mga unggoy kayo mga senators and congressmen. hehehehehehehehehe matagal na ninyo niloloko ang taong bayan kapag nabubuking kayo gagawa ng isang mabuti bagay para maging mabango sila sa taongbayan. hehehehehee

      • VeryDisgusted2

        Agree 100%.

  • Doc_A

    Pwede naman mag-sorry… and move on… and show Filipino more data that is from the scientific community… BUT NO… they keep on rationalizing and giving excuses… NAKAKAHIYA…

    YAN TALAGA MGA POLITIKO dito sa Pilipinas… Huli na.. Lumulusot pa…

    • sanjuan683

      Mabuti pa nga sa kanila si Corona umamin may pera samantalang ito si Kenkoy Sotto bistado na eh paiyak-iyak pa nagmukhang mexicano bandido. hehehehehehehe pweeeeeeeet

  • KpTUL

    Aminin na kasi na nagopya at hindi na magkunwari na magaling ka ! Alam
    naman namin na walang alam yan si Sotto. Sige na nothing to lose hindi
    ka naman si Miriam. Kasi kung si Miriam yan iba na yung issue,
    nakakahiya pag aaminin kasi fact na matalino si Miriam at nakakahiya kung nagongopya. Pero Sotto yan ehhh … Nothing to lose !

    • sanjuan683

      kinakampihan pa ni tandang Enrile si Sotto. Kapag nangopia aminin, si Corona nga inamin may pera siya tapos tinanggal ninyo at sinabi pa ninyo guilty. Eh heto ang linaw nangopia ang napapansin ko sa inyo mga senator kapag kakampi ninyo pinagtatanggol ninyo kahit may kasalanan na nangopia. Nakakahiya may paiyak-iyak pa ang mukhang mexikano bandido ito. hehehehehe Pero may pang-uto iyan si Sotto kapag nasa Eat Bulaga namimagay ng pera, ayos na mabango na naman siya hehehehehehe pero matagal na mabangtot siya.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PKSSK3XJWKGK6C5QST3NNLB6Z4 Ben-Hur

    Apo Manong Johnny,

    Tell your colleague, the egoistic Tito Sotto caught in his own hubris, to be gentleman enough to apologize publicly and recognize his mistake. If you defend his arrogant behavior and incompetence, you will also be dragged into this exploding non-issue. At the moment, Tito Sotto is now a pariah- a poster boy for plagiarism whose grandstanding antics in the senate has only demeaned himself in the eyes of the public. If you want to save him, make him in all humility say a sincere SORRY… (if this was done by the  former president on TV, he could do it). To state an old English quotation- “Let him eat humble pie.”  I admire your wisdom Manong Johnny, let Tito Sotto have some of it.

  • For_knowledge_economy

     

    To Senator Sotto:

    What I find disturbing (aside
    from the act of plagiarism and your continuous denial) is your use of a single or a few blogs to form your opinion. I expect a lot lot lot more effort from a
    senator. When you make policies, you normally should be more responsible in
    forming your opinion as the future of a country can be dictated by your
    decisions.

    If I were in your seat,

    1. I would use GOOGLE SCHOLAR or
    maybe WEB of KNOWLEDGE to retrieve scientific studies/medical reviews on the
    topics related to reproductive health and birth control. (I am sure you haven’t
    heard of fertility indicator kits.) Please read at least 100 papers for the country’s
    sake! Your opinion should not only be based from one doctor or a few bloggers.
     

    2. Go out and listen to the
    opinion of women from all facets of life. You often read of men’s opinion on this
    matter (e.g. bishops’ and your’s) on newspapers’ frontpages. Aside from poverty
    and lack of financial means, some women (e.g. factory workers) need to use some
    form of birth control at some point in their lives as they are exposed to
    hazardous work or chemicals or radiation or even abusive partners. As far as
    possible, women want to deliver babies without birth defects to this country.
    Therefore, give them the option and do not deprive them of information! IN
    SHORT, There are many unique situations why people need to /should use birth
    control.

    3. Live for a few days with the
    poor folks.

    4. If deprived of time, there are
    good quality documentaries to watch about the lives of ordinary folks in the
    Philippines. There are many of them (e.g. Kara David’s, “Ang mga dalagita
    ng Sapang Kawayan”).

    These are just only a few ways to have a better grip of what the country needs in terms of the RH Bill.

    Now, I read that you plan to work
    on the removal of this section from the RH Bill ” Section 3 Letter I of
    the bill: “The government shall ensure that all women needing care for postabortion
    complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, nonjudgmental and
    compassionate manner.” What about those women who have been forced to terminate
    their pregnancy? What about those who will have unintended abortions due to
    physically abusive partners. Do these women need to prove their innocence before
    they get accepted into a hospital? Even obvious criminals from our government
    (including the one who betrayed you) get treated in a good hospital, why can’t
    a woman who might/might not have committed self-induced abortion get immediate
    and proper medical care? Seems COMPASSION has left you Senator.

    Lastly, since grade 1 we have
    been taught by our teachers how to COMPARE and CONTRAST so I don’t think it
    will make a difference that you keep on denying that you have committed
    plagiarism.

    Work well and Think harder Senator.

  • Rigoberto_Doronila

    plagiarism is light compared to the killing of the unborn.
    btw, it was the staffer who plagiarized.
    but the good sen. should still apologize. the buck stops with him.
    but now, back to the real issues please.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      Responsibility goes upward. If his speechwriter plagiarized, then he plagiarized; especially if he then goes on to try to redefine plagiarism and copyright law and then end with ‘she’s just a blogger’ and ‘I’m a senator immune to prosecution anyway.’

      No unborn will be killed by the RH Bill. Giving people options for contraception will actually prevent abortions, as abortions are done to stop unwanted pregnancies, which won’t occur in the first place if the couple has access to contraception. Stories about how contraceptive mentality can increase abortion rates are unprovable; they are only stories. We look at the country today and abortions happen, because people have pregnancies they don’t want. If they prevent them in the first place, those abortions don’t happen.

      Contraception is not perfect, but it helps far more than it harms.

  • usaf9

         Days had passed, but still no word from the ” brightest ” most arrogant senator of all times mademoiselle Santiago. I believe she must be fuming by now and would be lambasting Sotto to the chagrin of monsieur Enrile who can’t rein her in using the word ” kagagohan.”
         Certainly Sotto will be treated with kid gloves by his master.
         Jingoy, Gringo and Lapid should come to his rescue. They belong to one league.
     
         How about the ofher senators? Please react. Dont be fence sitters.
         Let us not condone another del Castllo who was readily absolved by Corona et all.
         May I plagiarise ” intellectual thievery. ” That is the offense of Comedian Sotto.
        

  • boybakal

    Tito should have been more discreet and prudent.
    He used copy and paste but he should have cited by saying “Ouote and Unquote” of the author.
    Though it is now the age of openness, copy and paste, still respect is given to the author or original.
    If Tito won’t say sorry….then he should go back to Iskul Bukol to refresh the subject Good Manners and Right Conduct.

  • usaf9

    This is a bit personnal, but since a senator is a public property, let me comment on his countenance. The good comedian is far from being handsome, and wearing a beard and / or goatee doesn’t do any good to his personal appearance. Instead he looks untidy and unbecoming of a senator of the republic.
    I wonder if Helen has no advice to him on this matter. Estrada is neat on his plain bigote.
    Tito should reserve this for his shows not not on the senate floor. I;m sorry.  

  • bgcorg

    Only the pro-rh would grumble and rant at the use of research data by Sen. Sotto and hence, Sen. Enrile, who looks at things more objectively, is correct to advise those who do to look at the substance of what Sen. Sotto was trying to convey.

    In point of law, there is no plagiarism here and the laws of the country, no matter how you would like things to be, do not warrant for a pronouncement of plagiarism to have taken place already.  The IPO does not rule that a Senator of the Land, who actually owned that the ideas he expressed were not his own, but a product of research, had not attributed the ideas to the original author.  This is not plagiarism, nor an infringement of a copyright.  We should move on.  There was proper attribution, a disclaimer made before all, and under Philippine law, the Good Senator cannot be made liable or be impeached.  His point is that artificial contraception is not good for women and that is a fact.  My sister had the same experience due to ingestion of pills. 

    Granting, not conceding, that more than 30 years ago does not capture the advances made by contraceptive medicine today, it is yet true that contraceptive pills prevent the union of the sperm and the ovum and that is contraception already because it is preventing conception from happening.  Even if conception happens and the zygote swims to the uterus, it cannot implant in the endometrium because the latter would be too smooth due to contraceptives or else abort downright the foetus already.  Despite protestations to the contrary, IUD’s, contraceptive pills and injectables act in one or similar ways.  Vasectomy and tubal ligation in women offend the integrity of the human body, made only in view of an immoral objective. In the longer term, contraception could cause side effects on women, including causing cancer.  More safe, despite the bad publicity, are Natural Family Planning Methods which are many, varied and can be combined, depending on the need or situation of the couple.  National discipline, self-control, prudence, temperance, justice and fortitude which are human virtues, not necessaily just Christian virtues, are important, not to be utterly disregarded by man. 

    It is stubborness of the human spirit, alas, infecting even pratitioners of medicine, to hold that overpopulation is the root of poverty when poverty may, in fact, breed over-concentration of people in slums, esteros, dumpsites, under bridges and barong-barongs. The media even heightens the hype. The truth is that our current population growth is even lower than the accepted, universal rule of 2.1 that allows for a healthy “replacement rate.” I wonder what the agenda of these people are. Maybe, to plunge our one and only country into the brink of a godless, contraceptive culture.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      First, there is plagiarism. He used material that was unattributed not just once, but multiple times from other blogs too as pointed out by Palanca award winner Miguel Syjuco.

      This is indisputable. The text of his speeches have word-for-word copies of excerpted material. It doesn’t matter if the original material was McBride’s when the text that was copied was Pope’s, because it is not the idea that is copyrighted but the implementation. This is a matter of copyright law, which is unequivocally clear.

      Second, while the senator cannot be impeached, he can be censured by the senate for unethical behavior. This is definitely a breach of ethics.

      Third, individual experiences cannot prove that the pill caused X event. This can only be shown by scientific studies with a large sample size, all of which show under what circumstances the pill can be used safely and when it increases risks. Millions of women around the world have used it safely for literally decades.

      Fourth, the interpretation of what it means to prevent the implantation of a zygote is subject to belief and not to medicine. This means it is up to each person whether or not to use those methods of contraception that affect this. The RH Bill will not force people to use the pill if their beliefs conflict with it, it merely gives them the option. The law should not cater to a specific religious interpretation of conception–the law should follow what the people desire, and about 80% of the population are for the RH Bill. Nobody will force you to use the pill. If this is your primary objection, you can use condoms. If absolutely all contraception is evil to you, then your point of view is at such odds with the desires and needs of the people of the Philippines that it is not relevant to a discussion on national policy.

      Fifth, natural family planning does not work well. It works for an extremely small proportion of women who have predictable and set periods that are not affected by stress. For every woman for whom it works, there are many that will have a stressful event that reschedules their period and suddenly they have an unplanned pregnancy.

      Sixth, if your primary moral objection is based on abortion, the RH Bill will prevent abortions. Abortions happen not because of ‘a contraceptive mentality,’ an unprovable supposition and bit of fear-mongering–they are happening now in the Philippines. Even ampalaya can be used as an abortifacient. Abortions happen because people have unwanted pregnancies. Contraception prevents unwanted pregnancies, therefore contraception prevents abortions.

      The Church has been around for 2000 years. In all that time, it has NEVER successfully used abstinence to prevent unplanned pregnancies or stop the spread of stds. It’s doctrines regarding this human behavior are great ideals to strive for, but simply cannot be relied upon to determine national policy.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KNYAS4HJQKNHD7MPWMMPBAIQUI Francesca

      hey, i am neither pro nor anti RH, whatever, i don’t care. what i feel strongly about is the plagiarism committed by sotto.  lying thief indeed. it’s not the “substance” we’re talking about here but how he presented the substance — by copy-pasting pope’s work.    
      btw, you don’t even know the true meaning of plagiarism, so stop talking about ‘the laws of the country on plagiarism”. his staff admitted what they did.  the honorable thing  sotto should have done was to apologize. but no, he continues to be arrogant. what a shame! or, no, he has no shame… yuck.

      • bgcorg

        I may not know as much as you do about the laws on plagiarism, but if ever it is, what the good Senator did, coming from a blog, is not plagiarism by law in this country.  You missed entirely the point: by law it is not plagiarism because there is no law subsisting that would define it as such, and hence punishable by law.  The Intellectual Property Office was asked and they give this opinion.  We are not the IPO. An attribution was made to whoever the original author was; not certainly Sarah Pope who only reacted due to proddings from pro-rh bloggers just like her.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GZZ67F7G4MHK2K5SJHN4EJKN3M erica

    Naku umepal ang Martial Law architect, baka gustong mag guest sa Eat Bulaga o Sumali sa Pinoy Henyo portion.

    I cant wait for the great Lady Senator’s comment on Sotto’s issue ( i said great senator so si Sen. Santiago lang yan at wala ng iba pa). Come on Mirriam… speak up!

     

    • tuldok

      WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • Karabukov

    The sad thing is, the main issue namely the RH bill itself is lost in this unending tussle. Sotto ought to just follow Sarah Pope’s advice, namely to apologize (which, by implication she will simply accept) and move on. And what did the senator do. He dismissed her as “blogger lang siya” in a very defensive interview. That probably got her goat and shot back at him as a “lying thief” and everybody else chimes in. Now we’re all stuck in this completely unnecessary, if entertaining, sideshow.

  • DamayDamayLang

    May boy kopya na, may konsintidor pa…

    What is happening to these people who are supposed to be “honorable”?

    Are these the right people creating and passing Philippine Laws? Tsk tsk tsk…

  • Rolly257

    The Diane pill that Helen took in 1975, was only distributed in Europe in 1978,..Tito Sotto might have manufactured some of these Pills himself, or…he grossly manufactured lies.

    We can deduce that Sotto is not a credible individual, let alone the stature of the office he holds…sabagay, pareho naman sila ni Enrile.

    Enrile should concentrate rebuilding his image to somehow neutralize his past that constantly hounding him.

  • LabkoPinas

    Politics really can make intelligent people say crazy things. Nothing is wrong if Mr. Sotto had just confirmed in his privileged speech that he agreed with what the blogger had originally written. But nooo. He had to try to justify the statement handed to him by his “ghostwriters” as his own. What  is he trying to prove? Ridiculous. The same goes with this old man Enrile.

  • boybakal

    I pity Sen.Enrile, he always defends his  colleagues who can’t defend himself.
    Due to ignorance and lack of knowledge and intelligence.

    • Yxon

       wow…you very plenty intelligence …you always defendS

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

    Sotto claimed the blogger’s statements as his own; he is a thief. He denied that he stole; he lied. That is what he is called — lying thief.

  • jpastor

    That’s the problem within us. A Senator basing his arguments from a foreign findings that may be totally irrelevant to us. That is why he put himself into trouble with bloggers that contradicts his plagiarized belief. Contraceptives have been used by many including the senator’s wife for many donkey years and yet there is no one, repeat NO ONE in any branch of the PH govt made any actual verification (or experiment) of what is the true effect of contraceptives to women in PH setting. Why? It is because they are too frightened with the Church. And another Why? Because officials can afford to have wives and more children. and another Why? Most of them are busy corrupting to suck more of peoples money.
    We have a very serious social problems right-on our faces regarding of too many children by couples unable to raise or feed them properly and yet with one experience of a senator would put conclusion to everything w/o giving any alternative long term solution. With due respect of his son’s passing, it is a fact that he have been a senator for many years after his son passed away and yet he didn’t even think about doing anything about the problem. Now he is sobbing as others is trying to act on it? Pathetic.

  • jpastor

    How can couples continue to relieve earthly desires and make babies w/o looking forward to their future specially those are not earning enough? Just phhuk&phhuk anytime and anywhere and leave it to the Lord God to do the rest is it?

    Family planning is deciding when to have a new member of the family in accordance to the family needs as long as they can afford to raise them properly for their better future. They can do that not only by contraception. It is the couple sole decision. A very good method is to have an updated calendar and thermometer right where you do it and follow the schedule religiously. It is more exiting when you know the next encounter coming as you can prepare yourselves physically and emotionally.
    Way to go.. am going jogging tonight.

  • spearheads

    Sumakay na lang kayo lahat sa carousel. Both parties are accusing themselves of delaying tactics in the House and in the Senate. The truth of the matter is that both parties are delaying the RH bill. It’s a charade so that the RH bill would ultimately end up in the Archives. A clever scheme and a welcome excuse for PNoy from further embarrassment since PNoy can always say and make “matuwid na hintuturo” that he has done everything so it’s the fault of Congress for failing to pass the bill. This would be the ending of the poorly scripted zarzuela.

  • AntonioPeYangIII

    //“What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or
    prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is
    not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the
    country,” Enrile asked. “In the case of a contraceptive pill, is
    pregnancy a disease that needs to be cured? Why do we need to prevent
    it?”//
    Oh, I don’t know….maybe AIDs?

    There’s a reason virtually every major health organization worldwide considers condom use an important part of preventing HIV spread. I can’t tell if Enrile is really this stupid, or he’s going senile.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KNYAS4HJQKNHD7MPWMMPBAIQUI Francesca

    hey enrile, sotto is not “being crucified for lifting statements based on fact”.  he is being lambasted for his dishonorable act of copy-pasting pope’s work. his resourceful speech writer didn’t feel the need to come up with their own words so just copy-paste! don’t twist the issue. isa ka pa…. 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TBH6TYEASRY3LFRXFHGOJ6CE5Y FortCity

    …that’s right. Search the date of manufacturing and introduction of birth control pills in the PH: 1978. So in 1975, the wife of tito sotto used pills? imported from the US maybe?

  • akimaxx

    Mr.Enrile, do you want to be remembered as a LAWYER or a STATESMAN?

    Remember you’re not getting any younger. Legacy is life’s worth saving.

    • JuanTamadachi

      Maybe as a Marcos co-conspirator of martial law..

      • Enrique Sanchez

         hindi ikaw ang tinatanong, si Enrile…

      • JuanTamadachi

        Brillant observation.. This is a public forum.. anybody can comment on the posts, get it??

      • Enrique Sanchez

         sana sinabi mo: “kung ako ang tatanungin…” hehehe

      • JuanTamadachi

        insipid

    • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

      enrile is only after his own glory.  he displayed a brilliant job during the impeachment trial, well, that is his job–to do his best.  the filipinos do not owe him anything.  he got paid to do that job.

      enrile’s head is swollen with too much pride.  he thinks he can fool people all the time.  he underestimated that he is dealing with filipinos who are more educated, are OFWs who are exposed to governance from highly industrialized countries.

  • Enrique Sanchez

    Even if you accuse Sen. Sotto of plagiarism, his point is very clear: CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS ARE DANGEROUS TO HEALTH. The blogger (who seems to be Pro-Choice) also admits it. Copy or original text, that’s not the issue; it’s the danger of contraception.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      His point may be clear, but it is false. The pill he claims his wife was on was not available until 3 years after his son died. And single incidents cannot prove that a drug causes an effect, it requires large scale scientific studies, which have been done over the years and show that the pill is safe when properly used. All drugs, even aspirin and vitamins can cause harm when misused. All drugs have side-effects that increase certain risks. Millions of women have been using the pill safely for decades–being on the pill is safer than taking the medications for tuberculosis, which can cause toxic hepatitis, it is safer than a large number of treatments and drugs that are used everyday.

      In addition, the RH Bill does not force anyone to take the pill. It gives them education and gives them options. If they believe that the pill is harmful or conflicts with their beliefs, they don’t have to take it.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         How come even Dr Cabral admitted that pills could lead to breast cancer?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         Pills can increase the risk for breast cancer. Pills also reduce ovarian cysts, which can require the removal of the ovaries when untreated. Like any drug, the pill has good effects and side effects.

        For women at risk, their doctors (as only doctors can prescribe the pill) will advise them about the risk and leave the decision to them. This is perfectly fine. There are other options for contraception. Nobody is going to force women at high risk to take the pill.

        For women not at risk, there is no reason to deny them access to education about their choices and availability based on their economic class.

        The vitamins you take can poison you if use them improperly. The antibiotics you take can give you hepatitis. Blood pressure medication can increase the risk for stroke. Chemotherapy destroys your cells. This is simply the reality of medicine–the pill is not any more dangerous than any other drug in use, and is in many ways safer than some of them.

        Again, millions of women around the world use it, stop and have healthy children, and go back on the pill without negative health impacts.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         in that case, Sotto was correct in saying that pills could be dangerous in women’s health. That’s his point.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         No. The pills themselves are NOT dangerous to women’s health. They are like any medication. They can help, they can harm. To say they are dangerous to women’s health is to propagate ignorance and fear. His intent is to mislead and disrupt.

        Cars can kill people, are we to stop making cars? Even the food you eat will eventually kill you. Sotto’s argument is fear and nonsense.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         I think you’re contradicting yourself. First you said pills are not dangerous in themselves. Then you said “they can harm”.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        If you are using this qualification as a definition of dangerous than everything in the world is dangerous. Even the water you’re drinking is dangerous. If everything is dangerous, than how can being dangerous be used to discern whether or not a course of action is worthwhile? “Dangerous” becomes meaningless.

        Nothing in these statements are contradictory. A useful definition of dangerous is one that can meaningfully be applied to say whether or not something is risky. The pill is no more or less risky than thousands of other drugs that are known to be safe. By the standards of drug administrations around the world, scientists and doctors that have put decades into their education, the pill is safe.

        This part of your and Sotto’s argument has no logical validity. It is purely about causing fear.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

         Simple lang kaibigan, kahit na ang sigarilyo, nakalagay din sa mismong pakete nito na dangerous sa health. Nasa iyo na yon kung hihitit ka or not. Simple lang. Si Sotto ba hindi naninigarilyo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

        SOTTO LYING THIEF

    • fasoriamd

      I beg to disagree with you. The danger of not implementing contraception by any means (please don’t equate contraception with abortion) is overpopulation and if there is overpopulation, a lot of people go hungry. For those people who can afford, there is nothing to argue.  
      Also, it is very wrong to use somebody;s writing as your own. There is no excuse for this guy Sotto and his lawyer chief of staff to plagiarize.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         do we see any danger of overpopulation? have you been to places outside Metro Manila? Don’t you believe in the Divine Providence? Do you still remember what Our Lord says in the Gospel that we should not worry about what to eat because God the Father knows what we need even before we ask Him? Do you think the Creator would allow our natural resources to be depleted because of overpopulation? I don’t remember Our Lord ever mentioned this danger.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

        You can’t direct national policy based on faith. It never works well.

        There is overpopulation in the Philippines. There are more people than can be fed, there are more people than jobs, there are more people than can be transported, there are more people than can be housed, there are more people than can be educated, and they produce more garbage than can be disposed. Global warming is caused by technologies that pollute, but if the global population had stayed small, it would not be shifting the climate at its current rate. Overpopulation makes everything worse; poverty, the economy, pollution, garbage, education, sustainability, species extinction, disease, flooding, deforestation, landslides, crime.

        Faith has nothing to do with reason. Bringing up faith is an automatic loss in any argument, because when it comes down to faith, facts and logic have no place–if your fundamental objection to the RH bill is based on faith, then you give up all rationality because no fact or argument no matter how indisputable and truthful will change your opinion; in addition, the Philippines is not a theocracy and it should not be, so the arguments to determine its laws should not be influenced by faith; also about 80% of the population supports the RH Bill, so the majority of your fellow Catholics *already* support the RH Bill.

        The law is not made for the Church, whose leadership does not answer to Filipinos but to Europeans living in the Vatican, it is made for we citizens of all faiths and creeds.

        Also, if you want to bring “the Creator” into it, then you should know He also gave us free will and stewardship of the earth itself; our destiny is in our own hands. If your God exists, by your own bible’s text, He has also created in us the power to destroy what He has made.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         Your last sentence seems to show that you’re an atheist.
        I respect that. I will just ask Our Lord to give you the gift of faith. It is useless to argue on the morality of contraception if we are found on two different levels.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

         Kaibigan, hindi lahat ng nangyayari sa mundo ay kagustuhan ng Panginoon. Maraming namamatay ng gutom sa ibat ibang parte ng mundo. Sa palagay mo ba kagustuhan ito ng Diyos. Binigyan niya tayo ng free will at pag may nagawa tayong mali, mayroon itong consequence. Kahit anong sobra ay masama, ang alak ang ganon din. Hindi masama ang iminom kung hindi ang maglasing at dahil sa kalasingan ang nakakagawa ka ng di mabuti. Ganon din ang population, kapag sobra na, marami ang nakakagawa ng kasalanan dahil sa kahirapan. Maari mong sabihin na it’s their choice to sin. But again, ang kahirapan ang karamihang nagbubunsod sa kanila sa pag gawa nito. Tingnan mo ang mga batang hamog. Ano ang dahilan at nasa kalsada sila. Hindi ba alam ng Panginoon ang kailangan nila? Nakaligtaan ba sila ng Panginoon or busy lang siya… Of course not. Ito ang bunga ng isang pagkakamali. Katulad din ito ng RH Bill na kapag nagkamali tayo ng disisyon, magbubunga rin ito. It’s either marami pang batang hamog, batang rugby, drug pusher, kidnapper, rapist, holdaper, o baka mayroon din doktor etc.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         “Ganon din ang population, kapag sobra na, marami ang nakakagawa ng
        kasalanan dahil sa kahirapan.”

        First, don’t accuse of plagiarism for copying the quote.
        Second, it doesn’t necessarily follow that “marami ang nakakagawa ng
        kasalanan dahil sa kahirapan.” Maraming mahihirap na may mabubuting loob at takot sa Diyos. Ang isang halimbawa ay yung isang mahirap na MMDA na sinapak ng isang mayaman na nagtratrabaho sa Philip Morris.
        Third, what we need is to help the poor both materially and spiritually so they can act as responsible citizens. Giving them contraceptives will never form these poor people to be virtuous.

      • Tommy_Bahama

        enrique, open your eyes………………………..

      • Enrique Sanchez

         they’re open. now i will close my mouth.

  • JV7797

    This is the issue of the anti RH senators and the Clergy…. they dont care at all if the Philippine population grows because they wont get affected anyway! The clergy will always have food in their stomach because of the money their parishioners give …. the senators have their pork barrel to feed them for a  lifetime…. that is why their eyes and ears are closed…. busog at natutulog ng mahimbing sa mga kutson nilang kama … while the poor are scavenging for food and carton for their bed…. kaya dapat i-boycott ang simbahan katoliko at hwag kilalanin mga hinayupak na senators at congresita…

    • Enrique Sanchez

       you’re so uncharitable in your comments. how can we believe in your sincerity of loving the poor if your words do not even show respect and compassion?

      • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

        before you talk of respect and compassion, the basic needs of the populace should be fulfilled first.

        think of the pulubi who live and beg for food on the streets.  you want more of them? 

      • Enrique Sanchez

         what’s wrong with being poor? Our Lord has special predilection for them. Remember the first beatitude. Take note: the Church has always been committed in helping them. Think of Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta and the Missionaries of Charity and so many other initiatives of the Christians.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

         Nobody wants to be poor. Being poor is an undesirable state, most of all, for those who are ACTUALLY poor. If you tell poor parents barely scraping by that they have a choice between going on contraceptives so that they can stop at just 1 or 2 children instead of having them struggle to raise 10, you’re doing more good for the poor than Mother Teresa.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         is that so? I still prefer Mother Teresa’s way: feeding them with food and not with contraceptives.

      • Jem Pimentel

        What’s wrong with being poor? Try living in the slums all your life, barely scraping by to feed 10+ mouths. You’ll change your tune soon enough,

      • Enrique Sanchez

         It’s enough to think of the Holy Family who lived a poor life in
        Nazareth. Our Lord was born in a stable and not in a palace. Is there
        something wrong with that decision of God?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

         How many Mother Teresa do we have in the Philippines? Do we have any? How many poor people are there in our country? You must be joking. Poor people are always around, but Mother Teresa??? Her lifetime is not enough, though he setup a good example, how many follows? Is there any? Can you be like her? If not then another alternative is a must.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         I’m sure there many good souls who are helping but prefer to remain anonymous.

      • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

        it is poverty that drives the poor to do criminal acts.

        you want more criminals on the street?

      • Tommy_Bahama

        so who in your church or among the priests, bishops, cardinals, etc would role up their sleeves and feed the hungry just like mother theresa? have you done anything to help the poor? have you gone to a poor family and gave them your old clothes?  

      • Enrique Sanchez

        yes, i got involved in many charitable institutions. I’m also part of the group giving scholarships to poor teenagers who could not afford to go to college. I’m talking sincerely.

      • manual47

        Enrique….you haven’t answer Jem Pimentel comment. 
        Here it is again……
        “What’s wrong with being poor? Try living in the slums all your life, barely scraping by to feed 10+ mouths. You’ll change your tune soon enough”…..

      • Enrique Sanchez

        It’s enough to think of the Holy Family who lived a poor life in Nazareth. Our Lord was born in a stable and not in a palace. Is there something wrong with that decision of God?

      • manual47

        You’re on 21st century my friend. Grow up and look around you. God also say…..”God help those who help themselves”. If you think poor would like to remain poor, then there’s something wrong in this world. Do you think that’s the purpose of what you are advocating???. There’s nothing wrong with being poor. Do you think God will just provide everything. Wake up friend………..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

         Di ko makita ang commitment na sinasabi mo galing sa simbahang katoliko sa mga mahihirap. Mother Teresa is not the church. Kung talagang committed ang simbahan sa pagtulong sa mga mahihirap, ano na ang nagawa nila sa mga batang nasa lansangan? Sa mga nagpapalimos sa mga simbahan mismo at sa pampublikong lugar? Sa Quiapo nga naglipana ang mga pulubi, ano na ang naitulong ng mga butihing alagad ng simbahan (kunoh) sa kanila. Gawing nating halimbawa ang Panginoon, Siya ba ang ginagawang halibawa ng mga alagad ng simbahan sa ngayon. Sila na nabubuhay sa karangyaan. Luxury car, magagandang bahay, etc etc. Taliwas ito sa ehemplong iniwan ng Panginoon.  Kabaligtaran dahil ang Panginoon hindi nabuhay sa lupa sa karangyaan. Di tulad ng mga self aspiring righteous and godly sa ngayon. Tingan mo ang katawan nila, karamihan pagkalalaki ng tiyan. Halos di na makalakad ng mabilis sa kabusugan.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

        Tama ka, si Padre Damaso puro pera at kapangyarihan lang inaatupag kaya nagalit sina Rizal noon dahil sa kaswapangan ng simbahan na hanggang ngayon ay kanila pa ring ginagawa. Kaya lumayas na lang kayo sa Katoloko.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         not worth commenting.

      • Enrique Sanchez

          The Church has always been doing that. In the local scene, we have, for
        example, Gawad Kalinga and Pondong Pinoy, both are initiatives of the
        faithful of the Church.

        But this is not only the responsibilty of the Church. The government has a primary role in this. We should also ask the government officials to do something.

      • Tommy_Bahama

        what’s wrong with being poor? you must be kidding. do you know what it is like to eat just nce a day? do you know what it is like to sleep in the cold? if the church has always been committed to “them” as you claim, the why does the catholic church keep billions of dollars and not build “them” houses? why doesn’t the catholic church stand up soup kitchens to feed the hungry? you know nothing about the poor. Try telling a poor family that it is okay to be poor because the lord has a special predilection for them. you are so insensitive.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         The Church has always been doing that. In the local scene, we have, for example, Gawad Kalinga and Pondong Pinoy, both are initiatives of the faithful of the Church.

      • jinx

         Yes, doing that and let many more go hungry. What type of charity is that?

      • Enrique Sanchez

         can i invite you to be a donor to our project that sends our poor teenagers in tondo area? we are sending scholars to Dualtech Technical School located in Binondo. You can pass by the place. We need generous donors like you.

      • jinx

         Mr. Sanchez, I just donated to typhoon victims. Besides, you don’t always have the means.  Many more Filipinos would rather help their families first, which have grown bigger and bigger due to uncontrolled population growth. That’s why, if you let the poor and the needy multiply and multiply, the gaps between the needy and the generous would become wider and wider.

      • Enrique Sanchez

         thanks for your donation. that is indeed charity in action. let’s all work together to help alleviate poverty in our mother country. I’ll pray for you.

      • jinx

         Don’t pray for me, I’m Ok. Pray for the millions of poor and needy that God may find a way to give them access to contraceptives to alleviate their plight.

      • Enrique Sanchez

        The Road to Legalize Abortion….
        Expose: pinoytemplars.blogspot

      • jinx

        Now, you’re imposing your beliefs on me. I have the right to be free from jerks like you.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

        What’s wrong with eating Garbage.

        Type: Pagpag on Youtube and see what the poor eat.

      • Enrique Sanchez

        Not all poor people eat garbage. There are many poor people who live a dignified, simple lifestyle. I have met many poor families who are not ashamed nor afraid of their condition because what’s more important to them is their faith in God. I DON’T FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM. They are normal like you and me. Poverty is not a sin. Sin, yes, is what we have to be afraid of.

      • john_constantine

        Most people would prefer not being poor.  “Having enough” is the baseline.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

         And, what about you, Mr.Sanchez…, what have you. yourself, done to alleviate the plight of the poor;

        What protection and future can you give those “street-children” that you see roaming the city streets, almost every hour of every day scouring for food and pieces of wearing apparel, instead of being in school to prepare them for their future.
        No “assured food” on their tables even just for two(2) meals a day.

        “Aber”…, what have you been doing for these COUNTLESS-INNOCENTS. .?

      • Enrique Sanchez

         yes, i got involved in many charitable institutions. I’m also part of
        the group giving scholarships to poor teenagers who could not afford to
        go to college. I’m talking sincerely.

    • fasoriamd

      I couldnt agree more JV7797!!!!

    • tra6Gpeche

      I am 100% in agreeable with you, kabayan!

  • kilabot

    plagiarism or not the fact remains:
    the rh bill is like noykapon chain-smoking while reading the surgeon general warning on the cigarette pack.

  • kilabot

    which of the following will help alleviate poverty?
    1) use of artificial birth control gadgets/pills (aka rh bill)  to control population growth;
    2) use of natural birth control techniques (aka hit-n-run) to control population growth;
    3) encourage people to practice a life of celibacy to control population growth;
    4) practice lgbt lifestyle which results in zero population growth;
    5) perpetual implementation of the cct program;
    6) train the poor acquire skills and livelihood using the rh budget + cct fund (13B total);

    and you say?

    • Enrique Sanchez

       no. 6

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KRXGSZ7EKRW6IXI6HC23ERXFDY Sturm D

      1) Contraception will reduce population growth. It works more than 90% of the time at preventing unwanted pregnancies depending on the type used. It’s not perfect, but nothing is.

      2) Natural birth control techniques don’t work for most of the population. Even women with regular periods have their cycle thrown off by stressful events.

      3) This hasn’t worked in the last 2000 years to prevent unwanted pregnancies, it’s not going to work now.

      4) While this does work, you still need condoms to prevent spreading stds.

      5 and 6) The CCT is a nice idea, but without providing education and options for contraception to the poor, the poor population will grow faster than the CCT can keep up. Money spent on the RH Bill will help the poor control their family size, giving the children they do choose to have the opportunity to go to school and be better fed and cared for. Caring for and raising 2 children + contraception expenses is VASTLY cheaper and more helpful to the country than caring for and raising 10+ children that the parents probably can’t keep in school anymore.

      • love_boracay

        Right. But I guess you already know where Kilabot’s line of questioning was headed. You don’t seem to have made it there.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      sa libog ng mga Pinoy, only artificial birth control works

  • observer18

    I thought Enrile almost redeemed himself through the handling of Corona’s impeachment trial. But, with this recent development that he is defending a crooked and morally bankrupt rationalisation of Sotto’s plagiarism, he just shows he’s bereft of intellectual and moral sensibility.

    Enrile comes to the rescue of Sotto for two reasons: (i) promoting his own personal agenda as a supporter of the RH bill and the worst (ii) protecting his own kind (Sotto being a senator like himself).

    It’s a shame that in his twilight years, Enrile did not rise up to the challenge. Instead, he clearly demonstrated that “once a trapo always a trapo”.

    Enrile — sayang ka talaga!

    • Tommy_Bahama

      well said. i hope the rest of the filipinos, regardless of where they stand on the RH bill see sotto for what he is, a thief. enrile’s true colors are out again.

  • fasoriamd

    What? Mr. Enrile defending Mr. Sotto’s copying of somebody’s work. An intellectual like you Mr. Enrile, should counsel instead this guy. 

    • Tommy_Bahama

      because he doesn’t seem to care that sotto “stole” an intellectual property. it is okay for politicians to steal. they don’t like it when soemone else does.

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Enrile was brilliant during the impeachment only to serve his own glory.  He was grinning from ear to ear with the accolades from his performance at the impeachment trial. 

    What does that brilliance meant to a pilipinong nagugutom?

    • Tommy_Bahama

      enrile is doing everything he can to create a positive image before he leaves this world. he knows his time is short. he wants to erase the memories of his ties with marcos and the other negative publicities he received about his homes in california and questionnable businesses of his and his family. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JJQWTLMZH3NNIE2IJ46AOZAXAE Hannah Blake

    It’s because Mr Enrile, when you copied someone’s work, it only meant that you DO NOT Know what you were talking about. Mr. Sotto did not know what he was talking about! Period! Therefore, he has no right talking about the RH Bill. He was only there for grandstanding!

    • Enrique Sanchez

       in this you sound illogical. In order to prove a point, one needs sources which are reliable. That’s basic in every research. Ask your science or research teacher.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JJQWTLMZH3NNIE2IJ46AOZAXAE Hannah Blake

         I said “copied someone’s work”. Thtere’s a big difference between research and just plain copying.

      • Tommy_Bahama

        A blog is not a “peer-reviewed journal” so it cannot be used as a reliable source for research. You can’t use information you lift from a blog as fact. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

        Tama ka di marunong kasi mga researchers ni Eskalera Sotto puro mga bupol di alam ang research sources online like journals. Blogs are not reliable sources since they did not come from scholar

  • NYPinoy

    Nagtutulongan ang dalawang kolokoy.

  • anu12345

    ” Sotto’s chief of staff, Hector Villacorta, explained later that
    Philippine law still regarded the Internet as public domain and that no
    legal liabilities should be raised when information was taken from this
    source.”

    So  in the Philippines it is not illegal to download anything and re-use them.

    • Simon Ward

      That’s right :) You can grab anything you like from the Inquirer, including the wire stories, editorials and photos, and start your own on-line paper for free :)

      What surprises me is that the Inquirer used the phrase “explained that”, when the Inquirer’s editors know full well that Villacorta is completely mistaken.

  • sitsiritsit

    naka copyright ba yung blog nung blogger eh kasi kung wala sabi sabi eh hindi pwedeng sabihin na flag-na-me-resin ang nangyari….  sa akin lang na quote naman yung main sourch so pede na yun… hehehehehheehe pero go RH bill pa rin ako… dapat maipasa na yun ng libre na condom ka mahal eh

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDJMG2BRVWTKRTZLDZCTFGOJFI alan

      uu nakacopy right un sa baba ng blog nya. malinaw sa dalawang mata.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kate.deiparine.7 Kate Deiparine

    no to RH bill!!!!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      Buntisin si Kate, wag gumamit ng condom

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

        GANUN lang ba ang pagkaka intindi mo sa mga ayaw sa RH Bill?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4QL52SEHHBS3Q3GQHRMU2CKQVU Garth Dax

    the question is not whether thief-to sotto stated the facts in his speeches or not, but the way he got those facts. he could have stated his sources. we do manuals for the company and we always state the references…if you do not do that, u seem to be owning the idea, and that’s plagiarism already and that’s is the issue here…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

      HE DID NOT OWN  that idea.  He said that “as to (his) research”. The listener should have asked Sotto his source(s) of research if interested

  • boybakal

    Ito ang hirap kasi sa mga Pinoy.
    Simpleng simple,  pinahihirap pa. Kung ano ano pang english na matataas ang kailangan gamitin.
    Hindi na  lang sabihin na ang RH bill with the use of contraceptives ay masama sa katawan, maka cancer at weak infant or might be special child ang epekto kung bumililsayo.
    Citing Sotto’s experience on his child.
    Nabisto tuloy.

    Wala ba tayong originality. Sabi nga ng isang blogger, tayong mga Pinoy di nag iisip, lahat kopya, tapos magmamalaki na matalino tayo.
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZDAQGTF2U6IT2ZL22ZR7OBW354 Gurong

    did sotto read McBride’s book? Obviously not, he just plagiarized someone who (Pope) have read McBride book. If he read McBride’s book, he shoudl have composed his own statement and not copy someone elses. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

       Pa-ano. Na sanay komopia sa Eskul-Bukol.
      Habang sya tumatagal at tumatanda sa senado, lumala-la ang kanyang “an-say-mer”

  • sitsiritsit

    libre na condom yeheyyyyyyyyyy go RH bill GO

  • sitsiritsit

    imagine malaki maitutulong ng libreng condom… pagkatpos nating gamitn eh recycle para laruan ni junior… hugasan lang po at ihipan me libreng lobo …. 

  • sitsiritsit

    hindi lang lang pang pamilya pang kalikasan paaaaa… go Rh go Green (recycling)

  • mangtom

    Pass the RH Bill NOW!!!

  • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

    i have no respect for Enrile regardless of his age. how long has he been “serving” the Filipino People? haggang ngayon sa edad niyang yan binobola pa rin tayo. TRA-PO!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      He is a smuggler lord also

    • Tommy_Bahama

      big dawg, enrile has not served anyone but himself. may balak pa yatang maging senador din yung anak para tulot tuloy ang panloloko sa mga pilipino.

      • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

        exactly my point

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

       What has this guy done with his more than six decades of ALLEGED “public service”…, aside from being the architect of martial law & enriching himself…?

      Time is running out, “dear man”.
      The Time for reckoning if fast approaching.

  • $20733759

    “Would his critics rather  that he used  falsehoods in defending his stand against the reproductive health (rh) bill” Enrile was quoted as saying in defense of his stooge Sotto. No sir, his critics would rather that he admit that his stand was lifted from somebody’s work, not his own.Further, that when shown his error, he should have been man enough to admit his so called “lapses”. Finally, his critics submit that he does not need his “ninong” to come to his defense, which after all is indefensible.

  • manual47

    Mr. Enrile and Mr. Sotto……..zip it, will you.  The harm is done.  Again…..ZIP IT.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

    The Senate President of the Philippines condoning plagiarism? Mr. Enrile demonstrates to us how lawyers can twist fact and truth and make falsehood correct. And, he prides himself of taking that position. Shame on you!

    Mr. Enrile do you really think you are that smart and lecture us on twisted logic? Or is senility taking the better part of you?!

    How can you defend Sotto? The best that you can do for the clown who thinks everything is a plaything is to teach him ‘honesty.’ Mr. Enrile, is the art of making palusot what you will bequeath to dumb senators who were elected merely because of their show biz popularity. Train your boys well.

    It would be safe to presume that you taught your loving son Jackie the art of palusot, too!

    You blew your chance to greatness as Senate President!

  • aramco92

    lumilitaw lng na bopol yng si tito sotto pati blloger ng iba kinokopya pa,yng chieft of staff of sen sotto bopol din eh kinopya lng pla yng speech eh deny to death pa sila noong una,wla ba kaung sariling isip to make your own speech at di nangongopya…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    SOTTO LYING THIEF RESIGN!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

      ARE YOU AN HONEST THIEF?

  • aramco92

    mabuhay rh bill… to tito sotto ask lng po kontra kau sa rh bill eh yng mgA anak niyong mga babae eh mukha namang gumgamit ng condom or pills,common sense nka ilang bf na sila pero di sila nabubuntis,kaya sen sotto bago mag malinis linisin mo muna ang sarili mong bakuran..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

    Philippine Senate is an extension of Wanbol University where all the members are Iskol Bukol graduates.

  • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

    although we know that a lot of Philippines’s voting population is still internet illiterate, let’s keep record and never forget all the stupidity and shamelessness of these people who have been leading the Philippines to failure for how many decades! And hope that in the future, majority of our countrymen will really know what kind of uneducated and greedy people they are voting just because their last names are familiar. enough is enough, TRA-POs be gone!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BNWUW65CQJNYKIA6CO4EAXUU5Q Un Budsman

    He who doesnt learn from History is deemed to repeat it… I have never voted for this guy…

    What do you expect from a Marcos Crony. One of the Architects of Martial Law in the country…. He was trying to reinvent his DARK past by being good in the Impeachment trial…. But as they say its hard to teach old dog new tricks…
    Enrile was part of the Rolex 12…. 20 years of dark, inhumane rule…. Look at him now… Allied with the likes of Erap , Binay… good luck Philippines if these guys take power again

    • $20733759

      Agree. Pinoys have very short memories at masyadong mapagpatawad kahit hindi hinihingi ang kapatawaran. Konting boladas lang , kakalimutan ang lahat ng kasalanan ng mga taong sanhi ng kanilang kahirapan.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

      …plus (as follows…, partial only):

      1) Anti-US Bases proponent…, and now expects the U.S. to help in our West-Philippine Sea controversy with China.

      2) Continued logging operations despite the complete logging ban during the GMA-Administration

      3) Pushes for Charter-Change.., not for what is good for Filipinos, but to further enrich himself and his cronies. Would amend foreign investments and ownership in this country which has the potential for him & his cronies to receive “multi-BILLIONS” in Pesos or Dollars.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2OGCQGFL6ZFWQAB6HMJBGD3NWE Lorelei

    You are asking what disease? It’s the disease of over population and unwanted pregnancy. It’s the cure of not spreading batang hamog sa  lansangan, the epidemic of robbery, kidnapping, car napping, rape, prostitution, death cause by hunger etc. etc. etc. You do not know all of these dahil over pupulated ang bank account mo, sobra sobra ang pagkain sa lamesa mo. Baka nga nag di dyeta ka pa na di tulag ng mga mararaming anak na halos irasyon sa bawat miyembro ng pamilya ang kakarampot na lugaw sa araw araw. O mapalad na kung makakain ng 3 beses sa maghapon.

    • OZBOYS

      Hindi alam yan ni manong johny kasi hanggang kaapo apohan nyan di kaya ubusin ang pera nyan na ewan paano nya nakuha at saan nya nakuha, oo nga marami siyang negosyo pero paano nya nakuha yun negosyo na yan gaya ng posporo monopoly nya pati bundok at gubat na kinukuhaan ng palito ng posporo kanya.

  • john_constantine

    Hahaha these old guys should know one important fact:  any thing you lift from the Internet  should be double/triple checked.   Madami na po mga hindi totoo sa Internet.  There are even some cases (as in court cases) where ang ginamit na definition ay hango sa Wikipedia na hindi tinanggap dahil doon.

  • joaquin_salvador

    Some of the pro-RH advocates capitalize on the issue about proper attribution. However, the real issue remains intact: Mothers, pills are dangerous to your future children.

    This medical fact is the result of the studies of Dr. Campbell-Mcbride, which was the source of US Blogger Sarah Pope and also used by the staff of Senator Sotto but without giving proper attribution to Pope. The words of Pope was literally copied by the staff. It would have been better for the staff to read the original work of Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride to verify the accuracy of the reading and interpretation of Sarah Pope. I think this is a basic requirement in research, particularly when the work is used by the senator.

    I also read the blog of Pope and the corresponding remarks made by Sotto’s chief of staff Hector Villacorta, which was supposed to be an apology but sounded like adding insult to injury: “We are both indebted to the book’s author but if you wish that you also be credited with the contents of the book, let this be your affirmation. I can do it and by this message, I am doing it. Hope it satisfies you. But if it does not, what would you want us to do?” I cannot fault Sarah Pope for feeling bad about the whole incident.

    If you read the entire message sent by Atty. Villacorta, it was indeed an apology with vinegar: “What have we done to deserve your incriminating words. The senator did not lift it himself, we did. Did you want us to tell him to admit what he did not do? Who would you like to crucify for this oversight?…Forgive us our single trespass. We had no malice, we thought you would be happy about it. There was no injury. Hope this makes you feel better.” Villacorta should learned more about public relation. No wonder why the image of Senator Sotto is still marked with Iskul Bukol emblem. I personally think that Senator Sotto deserves his seat at the Philippine senate. An apology is a good antidote to this humiliating incident. Spare Villacorta in drafting your public apology.

    Obviously, Pope was more offended by the sour apology. By now she received hundreds of e-mail from pro-RH advocates with promise of support should she pursue legal actions. However, considering the immunity of the senator and the absence of law, I think the issue is more complicated than what meet the eyes. I reiterate, Senator Sotto must apologize to Sarah Pope. This is an embarrassing moment to the Filipino senator but it has to be done with a humble heart.

    I think that Pope firmly believed in the danger of the pills. In one of her responses to a comment, she wrote: “Lovelyn, it is absolutely infuriating to me that these pills are doled out like candy with no discussion in doctors’ offices about the long term implications of taking them.” Certainly, she was concerned about the danger of the pills to the future child as revealed in the study of Dr. Campbell-Mcbride.

    If she’s truly an advocate on education of women about the ill effects of taking pills, the issue of proper attribution wouldn’t much bother her because this is also what was ascertained by Senator Sotto in his speech. She has the impression that Senator Sotto is against the education of women and their reproductive rights. This explained her apology to the Filipina women.

    I find it rather confusing that despite the ill-effects of the pills, Pope still advocated the use of them. What she wanted is for the doctors to explain to the women the long-term side effects of the pills to their future child. This pro-choice stand of Pope should be viewed in the context where RH Bill is already in placed. Despite the high standard of professional ethics among doctors in the US, it is good to know that in the eyes of Sarah Pope pills are distributed like candies without educating women of the long term side effects of the pills. Expect the worse scenario when RH Bill is approved in the Philippines. Senator Sotto’s chief of staff should have dig deeper as to the stand of Pope on the issue before crafting his apology letter.

    Anyway, I think the truth about the ill-effects of the pills to the future child remained intact amidst the verbal exchanges. The pro-RH bill can successfully divert the issue to plagiarism but the truth stands firm: Pills are dangerous to the health of your future child.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1712329707 Justin Ayran

    “Is there an idea in this world that was not copied from others? Even the word democracy is not indigenous to us. The concept was merely copied from others. We recognize it is an idea from the West. Once you release an idea to the public, unless you copyright it, it can be used,” -EnrileI am no logician, nor am I a debater, but I am reasonably sure that this is a straw man. How do you compare lifting data from a secondary source without attribution to using a form of government imposed on us by colonizers?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      Ay naku, Mr. Justin Ayran, you still do not understand the meaning of plagiarism!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

    Plagiarism- is it plagiarism when we use materials or based our ideas from Internet sources?.    It may appear as so for a biased (against Sotto) viewer.  The US Blogger ‘s article was based on someone else and not out of a scientific research of her own?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      Oh really? Please continue reading Pope’s blog if ever you read it! Your another misguided fan of the clown!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

    The Senator did not OWN the IDEA if we open our mind to his utterance before the Senate!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    SOTTO LYING THIEF, RESIGN! Even his story about the contraceptive Diane which killed his son in 1975, was releasd to the market in 1978.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4GJKFBR5HLARVHJIKJPTNCQQO4 Borgz

    Manong Johnny its time for you to retire…you’re denying the younger politicians their chance to move upward…give up your seat, man!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

    Is Senate Majority Leader Vicente “Tito” Sotto III being crucified for lifting statements based on fact? 
    Tito is criticized for copying someone else’s work almost verbatim. Grade school teachers won’t tolerate such thievery, the act should be shamed within the Senate hall to the highest degree.

    Would his critics rather that he used falsehoods to defend his stand against the reproductive health (RH) bill?

    Falsehood? Here’s falsehood: Sotto stated so confidently that the pill that killed his son was “Diane”. Lo and behold, the manufacturer (Bayer) says the drug was not released to the market prior to 1978, and only became available in Asia in early 80’s. Falsehood? Yeah, a classic one.

    Will Sotto, Enrile et al stop insulting our intelligence even more? That’s the gravest offense in fact. Lalong nakaka-high blood. Sen Enrile: HINDI NA KAMI HAPPY. 

  • for_Prosperity

    OVER POPULATION IS A DISEASE THAT NEEDS TO BE CURED! The Philippines has gone beyond its sustainable population. If possible, we should adopt the “One-Child” policy that could cure our ever-growing numbers or pause propagation even for a couple of years, unless we can afford otherwise. My one-cent worth of opinion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

    Iskwelang kwela ‘to dito’y enjoyablekonting aral lang konting bulakboldito nang lahat, madaldal at buloldito na nga, Iskul Bukol
    Chorus:Ah hah hah, ah hoo yahhIskul Bukolah hah hah, ah hoo yeahIskul Bukol
    Hanggang sa umuwi mula pa sa roll calllahat ay magulo, but okey lang, it’s cooldito ay terrible, dito’y buhol-buholito na nga, Iskul Bukol
    Chorus:Ah hah hah, ah hoo yahhIskul Bukolah hah hah, ah hoo yeahIskul Bukol
    Coda:Iskul, Iskul, Iskul Bukol (6x)sa iskul naming ay sigurado kasa happening at sa katatawasiguradong ang mga pabonggaang di lang sure… ang papasa
    Chorus:Ah hah hah, ah hoo yahhIskul Bukolah hah hah, ah hoo yeahIskul Bukol

  • w4d

    Sotto’s chief of staff, Hector Villacorta, explained later that Philippine law still regarded the Internet as public domain and that no legal liabilities should be raised when information was taken from this source.

    How primitive…Now this explains why even a supreme court justice resorted to plagiarism. As long as it is pulled from the internet, it is freebee and not subject to plagiarism? I was always taught that regardless of where you pull your information as long as you cite your source, you avoid stealing the work of others.

    All Sotto has to do is apologize for the oversight, but I guess he is to big for that.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      Hector kawawa naman si Senator Iskul Bukol. You gave him wrong advice and now ikaw ang nagpapalusot. You are not worth your salt!

      Bilib na bilib sa iyo is Iskul Bukol, Mr. Hector! That is the reason why he parrots everything you write for him. All you had to do was admit you were wrong and huwag ka nang magpalusot kasi every day that passes si Clown Sotto ang napaparusahan!

  • regd

    I detest people who arrogantly demand respect as if they have the right to insist they are worthy of it! Respect is earned and not imposed! Each one of us suffered family tragedies one way or another, it does not demand respect but a discreet optional courtesy.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      what are you talking about? who is demanding respect from whom? hindi ka naman “listening” in class, eh. 

      Are you with us? we are at Inquirer talking about the dishonesty of Sotto! Where are you!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

    A supreme court justice was caught lifting ideas off some other people’s work, he was rightly criticized by many sectors even our legislators which prompted the House to prepare an impeachment charge against him. Now a Senator of the Republic made the same copy paste tactic and the Senate Leadership came to his aide. 

    Okay class, okay na mangopya ngayon. Sige, magkopyahan kayo hanggat gusto nyo. Tutal, mga senador natin copy kings din.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

    The next thing we’l know, a bill will be passed in the Senate legalizing intellectual thievery.

  • virgoyap

    As an actor Sotto is an expert in following the script. And the script he faithfully used was the one written by Sarah Pope. He used it without the author’s permission. He should apologize for what he has done.

  • Htee

    Si Manong JPE parang hindi nagaral sa school. Huwag daw usigin ang nangongopya dahil tama naman daw ang sagot.

    Kung pwede yan sa school, pwede na rin sa senado…ulianin na talaga.

    CHEATING IS CHEATING KAHIT TAMA O MALI PA ANG SAGOT.
    Itong si balbasin, kumuha pa ng abogago….
    Ano ba naman ang hirap ng mag SORRY, paaensya ka na, nagkamali ako.
    Ano na nga ba yung kanta???? SORRY IS THE HARDEST WORD ???????

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U5XZ7DG3V4IM5BX3ZX5GTPDTU4 cane-juice

     He is a lousy actor…, and a worse comedian.
    BUT….,
    He makes a Better Comedian than a Senator.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RVUPQ6G477GUPUISDLVUWAL2EQ True Orient

       Sotto is not a comedian. He’s a joke. And a really big one!

  • EdisonGatioan

    The friends of my enemy is my enemy. This is the proud pronouncement of Enrile during the time of Cory. This old man is never objective and can never shrug off his bias. His intellectual gift is admirable, but the character, oh I’ll just leave it to history to judge him.

  • lolo_Jose

    Ay ano ba yan Johny, tumanda ka ng paurong….Kailan naging tama ang pangongopya
    sa gawa ng me gawa? Ayokong isiping nasa kategorya ka ni Mandong Doronilla na
    palabnaw na ang utak at nalabas sa bibig ang mga bagay na hindi na nag-iisip pa…
    Aba ina ng awa, kayung dalawa nga ay punta na lang dine ga sa batangas at inom
    na lang tayo ng salabat at mgpapak ng panutsa mga damuho kayo….

  • Fulpol

    “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country,” Enrile asked.
    ———————————————————-

    like vitamins supplement it does not cure any disease, but it can supply depleting vitamins in the body, that boost the defense of the body to combat diseases.. it prevent’s outbreak of disease..

    contraceptives prevents pregnancy… pregnancy itself is not a disease… it is the “unwanted”, “unplanned”, “unintended” pregnancy that is illness.. 

    if million owmen wish to stop pregnancy because of the necessity, the would translate to reduce population growth.. population is being control, but not deliberate… but not to “reduce population”, because population is still growing but in a “reduce rate”.

    to “reduce population” is to kill… abortion is doing that… 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSBNZB3TEKHJE5A74STZTTUHC4 ed0408

    It is true that the Internet is a public domain but contents of webpages are considered private that is why it is copyrighted. Look at the bottom of this article and in other websites you’ll see a copyright notice. The problem is that Filipinos use to copy printed materials and doesn’t reference the source. In most countries users are trained to use referencing whenever they copy ideas, etc.. to give credit to the author and also to inform readers that they are not the owner. Source referencing is the most civilize way of copying materials on the Internet. The explanation of Enrile makes him more ignorant of how things are done in the web. No amount of explanation will right what is wrong. Mr. Manny Pangilinan was very humble to admit that he plagiarized and owned the mistake of his staff. Let us inform others and help stop plagiarism.

  • tabitabi

    100% copying. sana isnalin man lang sa tagalog para hindi nahalata ni Sarah Pope.
    LOL kenkoy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

      ui magagalit si mang temy…

  • jinx

    Siguro kelangan mo ng magpalit ng salamin, Enrile. Ano yan kulay dilaw palagi? Wala bang pula, o blue, o di kaya itim?

  • Nagagalitna

    Hala alam nyo naman na malapit ang election, parang ngayon lng kayo sa mga gahaman na politekong ito.
    Kaya kumukontra yan sa ikabubuti dahil kontra ang katoliko at sa katoliko ang pinakamadaling kumuha ng boto kasi mga Pari mismo kurakot na din at ito naman ang mga walang prensipyo na taga sunod sa simbahad ay sunod sunoran din sa pari…hindi ko nilalahat pero majority sa mga ito kala ang pari ay Dyos na di nila alam mas makasalanan pa sa kanila…kundi bakla e babaero…hehehe

  • Enrique Sanchez

    PIA CAYETANO IS ALSO GUILTY OF PLAGIARISM!!!!
    Read it from pinoytemplars.blogspot

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RVUPQ6G477GUPUISDLVUWAL2EQ True Orient

       Assuming that Pia Cayetano is guilty of plagiarism, it doesn’t make Sotto innocent….

      • Enrique Sanchez

         at least nalaman natin na pati ang PRO-RH ay nagiskul bukol din. hehehe

  • OZBOYS

    Manong Johny wag mong kunsintihin ang mali kala ko pa naman matalinong tao ka. 

  • Enrique Sanchez

    “Blogger” who launched smear attack vs Sotto is on abortion campaigner’s payroll.
    Read it from pinoytemplars.blogspot

    • ApoNiLolo

      Pinoytemplars, just like you, based his conclusion from proven facts mixed with assumptions, conjectures and spiced with speculation. That’s editorializing, in other words, its his view or opinion. And just because his a blogger, it does not necessarily mean what his saying is true.

  • kismaytami

    mr. enrile, hindi happy si Sarah Pope, serious issue kasi sa mga kano ang plagiarism. At saka isa pa, wala namang pakialam si Sarah sa RH Bill ng PH.

    Oh yes mr. enrile, there are lots and lots of ideas that were not copied from others. What’s the use of Intellectual Property Office?

  • Enrique Sanchez

    The movers and
    shakers behind the RH Bill are pro-abortion groups.
    Proofs found in pinoytemplars.blogspot

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NOU2XX7C27HWPK3GIKARGIKVKU Wowie Sg

    sen enrile, you totally missed the point!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      Read the BIBLE Wowie…. apparently…you are the one who is misled.. =(

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

     “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or
    prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is
    not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the
    country,” Enrile asked. “In the case of a contraceptive pill, is
    pregnancy a disease that needs to be cured? Why do we need to prevent
    it?”

    GREAT POINT FROM AN INCISIVE MIND! Pro RH MUST NOT impose their brand of morality on others.

    • JuanTamadachi

      Jeremiah, I suggest you read the posts of Sturm D in this thread. His posts are enlightening: and to me, they substantially, if not completely, answer the above quoted portion of your post..

      • spearheads

        There’s nothing to read in your useless blog, robot. You and Sturm D are deviating from the main topic. Enrile’s main topic are the words “essential medicines” (IUDS and condoms) in the RH bill. Anong sakit ang ginagamot ng IUDS or condoms? Your blog mentioned only prevention of STDs as the benefit of condom. Mabuti kung karanawang tulo lang ang sakit ngayon kaya pwedeng antibiotic lang solved na. Pero and dreaded STD ay HIV virus or AIDS. AIDS can bre transferred by kissing through saliva exchanges or oral sex. Ngayon, anong gagawin mo sa IUD or condom, isusuot sa dila mo?  “Essential medicines” are CURE (focus on this term) unless you have a new definition of medicine.

      • JuanTamadachi

        Already answered by Alloywheel1 .. The “pigments” of your imagination causes you to post constipated comments, i.e., they are non sequitur -not “non sequitor”- .. Hubba good day..

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

        I SUGGEST MR. JUAN, YOU READ THE BIBLE…

      • against_discrimination

         hala, do u know thinking outside the square????

      • JuanTamadachi

        I already have. In fact an in depth bible study for 4 years in high school and another 2 years in theology classes in college. How extensive has been your bible study Louie?
        Btw, there is no need to shout; its rude..

  • gardo_versoza

    lolo juan, you are missing the point and your meds..

  • fernan107

    Lahat na Lang ng bagay ay pinopolitika,magkaisa naman kayo sa isang hangarin na ikabubuti ng sambayanan Filipino,wala na kayong ginawa kungdi magpagalingan wala naman kayo nagagawa para sa bayan,bakit di na Lang kayo magtulongan at magkaisa sa iisang hangarin para sa bayan hwag hwag naghihilaan pababa…magbago na kayo para sa bayan…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      ano ang ikaabuti ? ang labagin ang UTOS NG DIYOS ? ITO PO BA ANG MAKAKABUTI ?

      • fernan107

        Paki sabi mo nga sa akin Kung ano ang linabag na utos ng DIYOS sa rh bill?lalabagin mo lang ang utos ng DIYOS kung ang mga anak mo ay di mo kayang ibigay ang pangangailangan nila bagkus anak ka pa ng anak.ang DIYOS ay mas masaya kung ang kanyang nilalang ay masaya at di naghihirap.hwag mong interpret ang Kautusan ng DIYOS sa pansarili mo lamang..parepareho Lang tayong mga katoliko..kaya kabayan bagubaguhin mo ang pananaw mo sa buhay at pag interpret mo sa Kautusan ng DIYOS….MAGBAGO KA NA,yan ang mensahe ng DIYOS sa iyo..

      • against_discrimination

         dai anong Utos ng Diyos? ang mang Cheat ? ur making me confused ha! kainis ka! lol

  • buyjagu

    Bakit nung impeachment ni Corona, lahat binanggit yung nabasa nila sa blog ni Raissa Robles, pero di naman nila sinabi na ang source nila ay galing dun sa blog? Just asking..

  • bongbong39

    And what about the charge against Justice Del Castillo, Mr. Senator? double wucking standard, old dude!!

  • $25214711

    Just because Ph law on Internet is weak, he can get away with it?
    This guy is full of it. 
    Maghalal ba naman kayo ng hunyango (from FPJ to GMA) na wanna be smart pa ay di yan ang makikita nyo.
    Ang pangongopya ay mali. Pag nabuko, wag nang humirit pa at pagpaumanhin nalang.
     

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      ano daw?

      • against_discrimination

        ppsst advise ko sayo study Law para alam mo!

      • $25214711

        I’m saying, this guy is full of S H I T
        Paki intindi po yung lingo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

    Mr. Enrile, your clown Sotto is not being cruxified! He’s not worth it! 

    What we are saying is he is dishonest and a plagiarist! Mr. Enrile, how can you defend dishonesty and plagiarism? How can you teach your son, Jackie to be honest if you don’t understand the word “honesty?”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      tell that to Enrile himself… obviously.. di mo alam ang sinasabi mo…. =(

      • JuanTamadachi

        Peruse the post of Isang Pilipino, carefully this time. Did you notice that his post  is addressed to Enrile? What makes you conclude that Isang Pilipino doesn’t know what he is saying?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25MR7WVEDTWO5UV52D7OFDQKBY Tea Coal

    manong johnny! kala ko ba gusto mo happy kami? hindi kami happy sa plagiarism! yan ang issue! hindi kung totoo o hindi ang sinabi!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HPGUIIJ44DMCSONOPI4JAEMUZM lex

    crucifixion is no longer practiced , what do you think of him a savior for the Filipino people? he is a thief a lying thief!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      talaga…. may proof ka ? o baka naman wala… and you are just inventing your taughts?

      • against_discrimination

         dai wrong spelling ka, sorry ur defending idiots

      • JuanTamadachi

        Oh, let’s be kind to dai..

  • spearheads

    Sturm D

    No need to quote any authority. Research shows that AIDS can be transferred either through saliva exchanges through kissing or oral sex. What do you what the filipinos do, put condoms or IUDS on their tongues? It’s absolutely clear now that condoms and IUDs do not prevent AIDS or it’s transfer. So. anong gagawin mo sa condom at IUDs kung “essential medicines” ito sabi ng RH bill? Goodbye!

  • wawa2172

    Well, though internet is still a public domain, the word for word copying of information from the net is still copying. Tito might not be impeached with what he did but should be as Pope said “be man enough” to admit his mistake. A simple quote and citation is more than enough but I guess Tito superiority complex is getting into his ego and simply denied the copying when its obvious. Bakit di na lang niya akuin and issue an erratum for not citing the writer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      that is not the issue.. the issue is the attack to the CATHOLIC FAITH…. get mo?

      • wawa2172

         Attack on Catholic Faith? whose attacking…the Pro RH Bill? Common I am a catholic to but my belief is on responsible parenthood. There is nothing in the bill that attacks the church, it only contain issues on reproductive health. It is all about Family planning…get ko.

      • Doc_A

        Just stick on the issue here… THE PLAGIARISM issue of Senator Sotto… nagkataon lang na tungkol sa RH Bill yung content… but the ACT commited to acquire the content is the issue… yung RH bill is another thing… ibang discussion yun…

        Cge… example.. pagnagnakaw ka para sa mahirap ok lang? kasi mahirap naman nakinabang? diba mali pa din?

      • against_discrimination

        what is the attack to the catholic faith? explain? hahaha ur funny

      • fernan107

        Louie anne medina,catholic faith???paniniwala mo Lang yan..parepareho tayong katoliko…ang mainam para sa iyo ay magbago ka na ng pananaw sa buhay dahil ang ganyan pananaw ay walang pupuntahan ang bayan natin…parepareho tayong malaking paniniwala sa DIYOS pero kung lagi tayong sumusunod sa mga opinion ng mga pari ay walang mangyayari sa bayan natin…sabihin mo nga sa akin Kung anong nagawa na ng mga pari sa atin bayan?nakatulong ba ang mga pari sa mga paghihirap ng sambayanang Filipino?

      • joaquin_salvador

        I am no longer a Catholic. And I am a happy agnostic.

        You claimed that you are a Catholic. How come you are ignorant of the teaching of the Catholic church? Are you a practicing Catholic or a nominal one?

        When I was still active in community organizing in the remote areas, rural and urban, in the major cities of our country, I met a good numbers of priests, brothers and nuns working with the poorest of the poor. I cannot blame you for not seeing how the priests and the religious people helping the poor because I suspect that you don’t even go to church, much more involved yourself in various activities of the church. Your statement is contrary to the life-experience of the Catholic church.

        I suggest that, like me, abandoned your Catholic faith. Keeping it and remain a nominal Catholic in your adult years is like wearing a mask. You did not nurture your faith, it is better for you to throw it away. Why pretend to be a Catholic when you are no longer living out your faith?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7SMLL2TFZ6GLXSDI72JXJL7YM Glenn

         @Louie Anne Medina …mahiya ka sa Alma Matter mo …daig ka pa ng tagaprobinsya mag-isip …on this issue, use ur Mind Over Heart not the way around! Use ur intelect wisely and dont be narrow minded! Dont protect Wrong doers otherwise ur pretending to be true …and that’s anit-christ!

  • ofw1982

    bosiing wag ka ng makisawsaw sa issue na yan.bayaan mo na c eat bulaga jan

  • MarcyPulilan

    The point is, we do not want a representative of the people who copies ideas or uses ideas without referencing the original source. What we have is a clown senator who pretends to be a know it all. This is why our country is in shambles, we are led by people who have no decency to respect the intellectual rights of others, moreso claim that knowledge as theirs to make them look good. We should stop electing these kinds to power for the sake of our country.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      tell me…  KUNG tatakbo po ba kayo bilang senador ? can you muster 10,000 votes ?  these two senators have millions on their side… What right do you have to call them clown….. kaya mo bang sabihin sa kanila yan in person ?

      • MarcyPulilan

        A clown will always be a clown whether one has 10 millions votes or none. Bring me in front of Sotto and I can say directly to him that he is a senator clown who plagiarizes/steals from other people. Bring me in front of Enrile and I can tell him straight that he is already senile. Whether I can muster 1 vote or 10 million votes it is immaterial, the truth will not change. I have the right to say this to them because they are being a disgrace to our country. In fact it is a duty to tell them that and even not vote them back to position.

      • against_discrimination

        ikaw kaya tumakbo at magparami kayo at walang makain

      • joaquin_salvador

        Bakit nga ba halos walang makain ang karamihan ng mga pinoys habang ang aso ng mga anak ng politiko mas masarap pa ang kinakain?

      • against_discrimination

        kasi may mga politiko na useless! maraming anak na walang hanapbuhay! and endless reasons…

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Sabi ko na nga ba hindi gagawa ng mabuti itong si enrile eh.  Hangang-hanga tayo sa performance niya sa impeachment trial.  Pero we do not owe him anything dahil trabaho niya iyon.  In fact in certain portions of the trial he made it hard for the prosecution team to do their job.

    Enrile is only out there for his own glory.  Whatever intelligence he is boasting about does not mean anything to a Filipinong nagugutom.  He is only in the game to benefit himself, his family and friends personally. 

    He does not really care for you and me.  He is someone who will side with his compadre’s unethical behavior.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6EF5PUVD7WK3V3XLP2FYAQZ4O4 Jomjom

      You are right. Enrile made life difficult for the prosecution in the impeachment trial. He was really for Corona (or shall we say he is against Noynoy)… Kaya lang nag convict eh kasi sobrang indefensible naman talaga ang ginawa ni Cornona. And he knows that he will be destroyed politically if he acquitted Corona. He just voted according to what he felt the people wanted. Magaling talaga, este magulang talaga.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      kasi nga po.. DI NINYO MAABOT ANG UTAK NI ENRILE..    For your information,  PHILIPPINES is the last bastion of ASIAN CHRISTINITY in the side of our world… halos lahat na naging materialistic ang pananaw.. KUNG MAY DIYOS KA AT NANIWALA KA SA DIYOS, you would understand what Enrile is fighting for…  BUT SUIT yourself…… if you dont have faith.. then so be it.. but dont insult others, because they choose to live with their faith.

      • against_discrimination

         hala may utak nga pero out of touch!

      • joaquin_salvador

         your comment is discriminating.

      • against_discrimination

        wrong word my dear! sarcastic!

    • Bjdc

      Anong ibig mong sabihin sa “hindi gagawa ng mabuti itong si enrile”? Nage-expect ka pa pala sa kanya.Sa tagal na niyan sa pulitika at pwesto, di mo pa ba siya kilala?

  • spearheads

    Sturm D, ganito na lang kasimple ang rebuttal ko sayo at wala ng paligoyligoy pa. “Essential medicines” as the words of RH bill purport are administered either through injection, vaccination, spread over the skin, or taken orally. Ano bang ginagawa mo sa IUD or condom, kinakain? Ngayon, papaano maging essential medicines yang IUD at condom kung walang karamdaman na ginagamot. Mabuti kung nakapagalis ang mga yan ng libido. O baka may alam kang pwedeng pampabaog yan. Still libido is not a disease, got it?

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Enrile, magaling ka lang mag-ingles, pero what you are saying is a disservice to the Filipino people.

    Please do not underestimate naman our intelligence.  Hindi man kami kasing articulate mo, eh alam naman namin ang tama sa mali.

    You like to do your compadre Tito Sotto a favor. Well then pull down yourself down the drain with him.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      sadly…. tama po si enrile… you dont understand him.. di po kayo maka-level up sa kanya… kaya kayo ganyan… =(

      • against_discrimination

         kasi majority sa Filipinos dont understand u and Enrile!

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Dapat kay enrile at tito sotto ay i-flush sa kubeta. 

    This is done para hindi na pamarisan ng mga kabataan.

    • Doc_A

      shame on them both… instead of making amends… and acknowledging their mistakes… they make excuses to correct what is deemed wrong…

      • joaquin_salvador

         who deemed it wrong?

      • Doc_A

        Ako.. and the rest of populace who knows how to RESPECT the work of others… who knows how to admit faults and mistakes and correct and learn from it… AND people who abhors IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY!

      • ano ikaw

         Exactly!

  • jpmd88

    Wanbol University graduate si Tito kaya ganyan. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      atleast siya po, graduate.. do tell me.. with your kind of mentality that does not carefully study the arguments… graduate po ba kayo ng elementary ?

      • against_discrimination

         ikaw din naman u dont study ur arguments!

      • spearheads

        What is the argument of Louie Medina that needs study?

      • joaquin_salvador

         hindi yata alam kung ano ang argument.

      • ano ikaw

         Hahaha…ineng ..

  • mangtom

    Bottom line: Itong si ulianin na Enrile, instead of condemning his protege for his misdemeanor, he is condoning it. What kind of mentor is this Enrile? If he told his disciple, “here, little boy, you are wrong and apologize”, he would have proven himself a man of integrity. Simple lang sana. Hindi na sana nagexplode itong plagiarism na ito. Pero, Enrile failed miserably. He and Sotto will go down in Philippine history as just “traditional politicians without scruples”. Fighting instead of being humble and admit the wrongdoing, you are adding fuel to the controversy. Be man enough and own it. You will gain more respect from the Filipino people and the rest of the internet world. Both of you apologize and redeem yourselves. Swallow your pride, sotot. That is being a real man. You are both senators and act like senators not fifth graders. Shame, shame on you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001914657639 Louie Anne Medina

      SORRY FELLOW…  ENRILE AND SOTTO might ended up ridicule in public, but they would be adored in heaven for that act….  you have made your choice.. they have made their.. why do you have to insult them.. tell me.. are you more sane then them?

      • against_discrimination

         Heaven? do u know how to get there? will you please tell me? I want to know!

      • joaquin_salvador

         why care about going there?

      • against_discrimination

        Because I want to know! do u know?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6EF5PUVD7WK3V3XLP2FYAQZ4O4 Jomjom

      You owe fifth graders an apology. You are saying that fifth graders also do not have good manners, that they are cheaters, liars and thieves. That they are cowards and do not know how to  own up to their mistakes… 

  • mangtom

    Grade iskul scenario:

    Titser: Hoy, Juan Tamad Enrile, nahuli kitang nangopiya sa sagut ni bigotilyong Sotot.

    Juan Tamad Enrile: Sir, hindi po yan ang issue. Ang issue ay tama ba yong sagut ko sa tanong mo?

    • joaquin_salvador

      nag-kopya ba si enrile ng sagot? hindi.
      nahuli ba si enrile na nag-kopya ng sagot? hindi.

  • ano ikaw

    What have you is a clouded bird-of-a-mind. The fact of the matter here, is Ms Pope is highly offended by Mr Sotto’s condescending remarks and dishonest action. On whether the fact/info to support his argument is correct or not, does not matter. What matters here is his action insulting to the office of the senate, and to the Filipinos at large living in the Phils and overseas.

    Plagiarism in the US and around the world, especially  across the Academe is considered dishonest.

    You have just proven again that the Phils is full of thieves, in kind (money and material things), and in deeds.

    You and Sotto should issue a statement and apologize to this lady. Simple.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SWETT3MTRLN22WP5LR46QBIUCQ bornite

      isa ka sa mga nauuto nung girl na yun, gusto niyang sumikat, using someone like you to boost up her popularity by supporting her claim…after this, for sure, mag rrelease siya ng book or something para mabenta sa mga katulad niyo…haaay… :-(

      • ano ikaw

        Sikat na siya my dear….but whatever her reasons, what SOTTO did is still blatantly WRONG. Baluktutin at himas-himasin mo man ang mga estorya, maling -mali si SOTTO. Nakakahiya! Senator pa naman.

  • mangtom

    Meron daw expression sa America: no matter how you slice a baloney, it is still a baloney.

    No matter how Enrile, herculubus and all their cohorts justify, rationalize, “massage” the plagiarism controversy, it is STILL pliagiarism. End of story.

    CBCP: why on earth are you mum on this plagiarism issue? You have great ideas on everything under the sun pero tahimik kayo ngayon. Nagbubulagbulagan na naman ba kayo?

    Are you going to take sides with your other attack dog, Enrile, and say “we are right and the rest of the whole world is wrong? 

    • http://twitter.com/philxce Felix Evangelista

      Nagmamagaling ka wala ka namang binatbat. The issue is not the pliagirism daw. Ang dali mo namang na sold out sa pagpasikat ni Pope. I report mo nga sa school kinopya mo lang sa internet.

    • spearheads

      Following your quoted expression thus, “No matter how you slice a baloney, it’s still a baloney” (which you did not even enclosed in quotation marks) the same applies to Sarah Pope. No matter how Sarah Pope attempted to sliced the original piece of work or idea of Dr. Campbell-McBribe by translating, it is still the work or idea of McBribe and therefore Sarah Pope have no copyrights legal or otherwise. Plagiarism would have existed if Sen. Sotto did not cite McBride as his source. Besides, Sotto did not pass his speech as his own. In fact, he repeatedly said that it was a product of research. If Sotto copied Sarah Pope’s menu or recipe which incidentally is her expertise, then I would have agreed with the critics that there was plagiarism.

      • spearheads

        correction:

        “enclose and McBride” instead at baka nandyan na naman sa paligid si Sturm D na professor ng English parading as a lawyer and expert in medical terms (sometimes parading as global scientist named Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.)

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Bottom line – you missed the point – RH BILL KILLS INFANTS / FETUS – A Life. No matter how you slice and dice it. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

        medyo bobing ito.

  • MikeCrisologo

    Most Pnoys don`t say sorry when they commit mistakes instead they tend to make palusot to justify their wrongdoings.

  • mangtom

    JomjomCollapseYou owe fifth graders an apology. You are saying that fifth graders also do not have good manners, that they are cheaters, liars and thieves. That they are cowards and do not know how to  own up to their mistakes… Reply to Jomjom: I ADMIT my mistake. Sorry. I am not going to be like Sotot and Juan Tamad Enrile and try to justify a mistake. I AM sorry.

    • maharlika27

      So you are smarter than two of them…you can be a senator someday…Maybe, maybe not…

  • boybakal

    Filipinos are funny and little stupid people.
    Plagiarism a new high sounding word, we condenm Tito and Enrile because of this word.
    It is an Old tune, lumaki tayong nangongokopya at may Kodigo.
    Part of our classroom activities especially pag may test.

    Enough of our tirade. We are all Iskul Bukol.
    Pingot nga lang sa tenga ang parusa ng titser, kayo naman akala nyo namatayan na.
    Tigilan nyo na yan, we Filipinos are Original, Original na mangongopya or in this high tech word, Copy and Paste or  Plagiarism.

     

    • Doc_A

      huh! nakakagulat comment mo!

      I am no school bukol… and I dont agree with you… thats mediocrity… no successful people settled for mediocrity… and no successful people copy works of other… they may take note of the idea… but they RE-CREATE it.. and make it even better than the original!

    • grapesofwrath

      Huh? Baka Ikaw lang. Baka sa loser school mo.
      Excuse us, wag mo kami idamay. You are of totally different caste. And that’s why you defend the baluktot. How awful!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    @”Louie Anne Medina” …: 
    Please answer this question before posing this…,
    as an issue(attack) against the Catholic Church :

    Is the stand of the Catholic Church re the RH-Bill …
    1) a Dogma;
    2) an Ex-Cathedra;
    3) a Decision of the Council of Bishops.,. or
    4) None of the above…?

    • maharlika27

      Morality…give values to life…your life and the life to come is same value…be respectful to new comers and welcome them..

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    Manong Johnny,noon tinawag ninyong Palusot si Corona,bakit pinapalusot nyo ang taong nag copy paste ng speech na ngayon ay nagpapalusot.Dapat gumitna ka laang.

  • TagaMlang

    Senator Enrile, I think you are terribly wrong.  The issue here is not whether the data presented by Sotto are true or false.  The issue here is, he used the data without recognizing the writer, and that is plain and simple plagiarism. 

    Senator Sotto, be man enough to accept your mistakes. It you don’t, it simply makes you dumb and stupid.  It further strengthens our knowledge that indeed, there is nothing inside your slightly used brain.

    We know that smoking is dangerous to one’s health.  The people are clearly informed through the cigarette packages and labels.  But people are given a freedom of choice.

    Similarly, if contraceptives are dangerous, then we have to educate the people and let them know the pros and cons of contraceptives, and then give them the freedom of choice.

    The death of Sotto’s son allegedly due to contraceptives was a result of the choice they made.  And if the Sotto’s believed that the choice was wrong, it should not be used to prevent others from exercising their freedom of choice.

    To the Sotto’s, what was not favorable to you does not necessarily means that it is not also favorable to others.

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Bottom line – you missed the point – RH BILL KILLS INFANTS / FETUS – A Life. No matter how you slice and dice it. 

      • Booba Tooba

         nope… what the people are clamoring for is not about the rh bill argument in itself… Sotto’s speech had verbatim (word for word) passages lifted without due recognition to the source.  And his belittling comment .. ” why would I quote a blogger”.. only added fuel to the fire. 

        I’m not an expert in plagiarism, but I do know that copying something verbatim (word for word) and passing it off as you “own” interpretation of some doctor’s words is not something a “senator” should do.   If you ever had any proper education, you would know that. 

        In my opinion, he should’ve just owned up to the faults, and stopped cowering behind everyone else… nilaglag pa nya staff nya na di nya kasalanan, kasalanan ng staff nya.  Sure it was their job, but as their boss.. you should’ve  owned up to their blunder.  That’s what a “real man” would do… hindi yung gagawa ka pa ng excuse… obvious na obvoius naman kinopya yun.  How Sotto handled the whole situation just shows how real diminutive his character is. 

         When he was first called on the blunder of plagiarism.. he took the high horse and even stated he would not copy a “blogger”… then when proof was shown, his staff pleaded that it was their fault and for the public not to blame him… even his chief of staff posting a pathetic and condescending apology to the blogger’s site ( still on their high horse)… that made things worse.  nasayang tuloy iyak nya sa tv, nabalewala tuloy dahil ayaw pang magkumbaba at aminin nalang… nagyabang pa.  Ngayon, anyone with any decent education in the philippines who has heard of this debacle now knows what Sotto truly is.

        What Sotto should’ve done… just apologize and own up to it all… apologize for his staff’s stupidity… then the issue would’ve died immediately.  and his crying tactics would’ve amounted to something more.

  • spearheads

    Here’s the deal for everybody’s peace of mind:

    Let’s junk this divisive issue on RH BILL once and for all and promote Smoking instead.

    Smoking can cause impotence and therefore will surely control population. Don’t mind about cancer. Contraceptives and smoking are the same animal – they both can cause cancer anyway. Let’s follow the leader and start smoking and control population a.s.a.p. Ok ba Noy?

  • joerizal

    JPE – you’ve been on this earth for 80+ years and should know by now that the means does not justify the end. The Senate and its members should uphold their integrity at all times, but this time (as in many other times) it has failed to do so. Twisting the issue in your favor is tantamount to robbing the people of the truth. Your own version of the truth does not hold water.

    • AnaheimCostaMesaNewportBeach

      Bottom line – you missed the point – RH BILL KILLS INFANTS / FETUS – A Life. No matter how you slice and dice it. 

      • Alloywheel1

         You are way ahead.  Hindi pa nga nabuntis.  Pinatay mo na ang baby. Ini-slice and dice mo pa.  Lupit.  RH Bill don’t kill infants.  Irresponsible mothers do.  Impoverished mothers do.  The rich?  No problem.  They can afford to have another baby or bag of contraceptives.  So, if your anti-RH,  can I say you are anti-poor?

      • joerizal

        Apparently, you haven’t read the bill and are ignorant of its intent. In case you haven’t been in touch with reality, the points raised by the opponents of the bill are in no way congruent to the bill’s salient points. They are just raising h e l l because the CBCP and Enrile et. al. have placed themselves in an embarrassing position where they spoke up against the bill prior to reading it (like you did). In short, kahiyaan na, so what the heck…just keep up the moro-moro. However, they end up humiliating themselves every step of the way, not the least helped by Sotto’s latest blunder (plagiarism, lying, and sexist condescension). They’re just shooting themselves in the foot every time.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      Enrile learned the ropes from Marcos – to cheat and misinform people!

  • against_discrimination

     wowie na misled ka daw! kasi u dont like to cheat eh!

  • bgcorg

    First, there is no plagiarism. If attribution was lacking, it could be.  In this case, authorship was recognized and the current laws are not explicit on plagiarism of blogs yet.

    Second, censure can only be meted on a senator while it is not in session.  Sen. Sotto did not break any rule on ethics: he acknowledged that what he was about to say were not his original ideas.

    Scientific studies are as good only as the cases they’ve covered; other studies show also that the contrary is true.  Even if millions of women, granting but not conceding, used pills safely, it does not include cases which are not covered by the study, usually defined by its purpose and bias.  Women, among them my very own sister, who are not subject of your “scientific studies” prove by their own unrecorded experiences that the pill “caused X event.”

    Fourth, while no one can truly force you to use contraception methods, the mere fact that a bill can become a matter of public policy and national law that affects everyone is unjust and immoral.  It is a gratuitous assumption to state that 80 percent of the population favors the rh bill.  The bill is now being seen by more and more of the population as a square peg to a round hole and is seen indeed not to cater to a specific religious interpretation but against the very nature of man, against the principles of Natural Law.

    Fifth, it is not correct to generalize upon a misinformation.  Natural Family Planning Methods are many, varied and adaptable to the condition of couples who want to space the number of their children.  In fact, the various techniques, body temperature, saliva, cervical mucus, etc., can be combined; there is also the Dr. Billings Ovulation Method and the Creighton Model Fertility Care System.  If the pill is used to regularize the menstrual cycle of a woman, under stress or by an ailment, clearly its use and intent is not contraceptive.

    Sixth, the experience of countries that have adopted the culture of death starting with legalization of artificial birth control, attest to the increase of abortion in a parallel way as the increase of use of artificial contraception.  Despite the protestation of its advocates that the bill is not “abortion,” the various actions of contraceptives cover events from the prevention of the union of the sperm and the egg (contra-conception), to making it difficult for the zygote to implant in the endometrium to downright abortion by terminating the life of the unborn human which is abortion.

    It is not the task of the Church to stop population growth.  She gives guidance and moral teachings to men of good will.  That the world does not follow Church teaching is due to the “hardness of heart” by man who makes himself god, by meddling unduly in the natural design and good natural order of creation.  National discipline and self-control does not depend on the Church.  Man, even against nature, can reject the freedom of the “sons of God.”    

    • Simon Ward

      “the current laws are not explicit on plagiarism of blogs yet.”

      Many types of expression are not EXPLICITLY covered by international copyright law. The generally applied practice is that copyright is IMPLIED if the article in question is similar enough to other forms of expression which are explicitly covered.

      In the case of blogs, it is generally accepted – if one applies the tiniest bit of common sense – that they are covered by exactly the same copyright protection as any other form of creative writing, such as editorials in the Inquirer or a work of literature more recent than (dates, I believe, vary). By the way, it makes absolutely no difference whether “copyright” is indicated or not. Anyone can add the word “copyright”, but many choose not to since its only purpose is to warn off plagiarists.

      That said, I’d be interested to know whether comments in a chat forum like this could carry copyright. I suspect they are actually in the public domain already.

      • bgcorg

        I am sure others expressed the same ideas as you.  I wonder therefore whether they have plagiarized your authorship of these ideas.

      • Simon Ward

        The key test of a plagiarization lawsuit involving the written word is not the idea expressed, but the number of successive words which are identical or extremely similar, and the frequency (if interspersed with dissimilar writing) of these occurrences. Sen. Sotto flat out fails this test. The colloquial term to describe parts of his work which were identical to another’s is “CHUNKS”!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      You’re another one of those who do not understand the issue now! Did he use somebody else’s words or not. If not, no problem.

      What a lengthy discussion but problem is that’s not the issue of this article.

      • bgcorg

        The issue is really the ideas expressed.  Even if he used somebody else’ words found in a blog, the issue is whether what he said is verifiable or not.  Plagiarism can only happen when there is an obvious intention to make somebody else’ ideas as one’s own when they are not.  In this case, the good senator was candid enough to preface his speech with the recognition that the ideas he expressed were not his but attributed authorship to whom they were due.

    • grapesofwrath

      “Authorship was recognized”? Really? If denying over and over is recognition, okay.
      Sorry, first paragraph pa lang sablay na.

      • bgcorg

        The good senator already right at the beginning said that the idea he would express were not his.  The aide of Sen. Sotto is a lawyer.  He also checked with the IPO whether plagiarism was committed.  What else do you want to hear?

    • ano ikaw

       Sablay na on the first para, so I did not bother reading the rests

    • Alloywheel1

       No matter how long is your extrapolation, it is still wrong.  A truth does not need explanation that long.

  • boybakal

    No matter how Tito did it. He did it with style, more fitting to the subject.
    Put in the whole context of what this RH bill is all about.
    Tito is right, RH bill is bad, he experienced it, he witnessed it, he suffered from it.
    Whether he copied it, his idea is the same. author idea is universal, she cannot claim ownership.

    Just put it in simple word this RH Bill.
    Who should we Obey….Law  of God or Law of Men.
    As long as the  Divine Law “Go and Multiply” is repealed….then any amendment to this law should not be enacted.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFQWTB3Z6DK76IWGHUMC4NO5JY Isang Pilipino

      hoy boy baka, anong pinagsasabi mong law of man and law of God. Ang issue dito ay yung plagiarism ni iskul bukol hindi yung pros and cons of the RH bill. 

      Nangopya ba siya o hindi? Yun lang ang sagutin mo. 

      • boybakal

         Hindi. Yon idea ni Sotto, idea rin ni Pope.
        What is wrong with that. They have the same thinking. Nauna lang nagpost si Pope.
        Kung makapagtanong ka, akala mo kung sino kang Herodes.
        Tanong…noong nag aaral ka di ka ba nangopya…o baka may sarili kang kodigo.

      • Alloywheel1

         But, that is not right.  Kahit na gawin mo ang mali, a million, billion times, it does not make it right.  It is still wrong.  Akala ko ba, maka-Diyos ka.

    • grapesofwrath

      Divine Law “Go and Multiply”? Saan nakasulat na divine law yan?

      “RH Bill is bad, he experienced it,…”? Alin? Yung paiyak-iyak niya? Yung isa pa nilang kasinungalingan na nag-take daw ng isang klaseng pills noong 1974 ang wife niya? But said pill was introduced to the market in 1979!

      Kung Law of God to you is kasinungalingan at kahirapan, kayo na lang!

      • boybakal

         It is written in SCRA called BIBLE.

      • grapesofwrath

         Can you please quote the verse saying so? Or at least point us to it.

    • Alloywheel1

       Sorry.  But, I can’t find it in the 10 commandments.  So, it must be a Law of Men.  Kung sasabihin mo, nasa Genesis.  Ang sinabihan ng Diyos, ay dalawang tao lamang.  That multiplication was accomplised.  In fact, it is no longer a simple multiplication.  It is already compounded.  Hindi na multiplication. Something like the ‘nth’ power.  It is the Law of Men; from the old men of Vatican.

  • rex balad

    Thumbs up to Tito Sen. Give importance to a life! No to RH bill! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PJJOXJHS2C6TSRFK6CY3MQO4JM Cesar

    Coincidence?? 
    Sotong: Malay for “squid”. Used to describe someone as rather inept or in a world of his own. Presumably, it comes from the squid’s emission of a cloud of ink, hence the popular phrase, “blur like sotong.” May be used as both noun and adjective.

  • kevinmcn

    “What disease does an IUD or a condom cure or prevent? I challenge the proponents to explain that to the public. Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country,” Enrile asked.How about STD or AIDS? 
    For the opponents it really isn’t about labeling of products or the wording of the Bill. It is strictly to keep the Philippines under the thumb of the Catholic Church. 
    I have to believe this, otherwise Enrile would be a fool to make such a statement & I do not believe he is a fool just misguided on this issue.

    • maharlika27

      Misguided? In what sense?

      • kevinmcn

        Enrile said that condoms do not prevent or cure disease, when they clearly do. Either he made a mistake or he is deliberately misleading the Public. Is it purely his religious beliefs or something else. If it were purely his religious beliefs why not be honest & say so, rather then misleading the Public by issuing erroneous comments?

      • maharlika27

        What error you are talking about? YES it is true that condoms cant cure disease…or prevent disease…You mean condoms can prevent and cure disease…? Even science agrees this statement…You are the one is misinformed, think so.

      • kevinmcn

        Give your head a shake! Condoms can prevent the transmission of STD’s, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, & many many other diseases. You would certainly benefit from the RH Bill.

      • Alloywheel1

         Then, we should not give our children immunizations.  Because immunizations does not cure any diseases.  The government is wasting money by giving immunizations to all the children in school – for free.  It does not cure any disease.  Agree, Marharlika27?

    • Alloywheel1

       Lawyers.  Some lawyers says white.  Some lawyers says black. And a lot of lawyers says they are all different shades of gray.  Remember the movie, with Jim Carrey “Liars”

    • Alloywheel1

      May I make some of the facts straight?  No, IUD does not cure any disease.  However, it prevents pregnancy.  Yes.  Condom does prevent contracting all sexually transmittable diseases. 
      Why do we give our children immunizations?  To help them fight fatal diseases.  Immunization does not cure.  But, our Health Centers, ergo, our government, do provide immunizations to the children; for free.  Prevention is better than the cure.
      Contraceptives exists since the 1960s.  Nakapagtataka tayong mga Pilipino, parang ang mga ito ay ngayon lamang na-diskubre.
      If I follow Sen. Enrile’s line of thought,  the governement, then, should stop giving immunizations to the nation’s children, because it does not cure any disease.

    • Alloywheel1

       You said that Sen. Enrile asked”Is not the purpose of these methods to reduce the population of the country?” (verbatim.  No correction attempted)  I can’t find it in the article.  Can you point it out to me?  Sorry.  I think the purpose of RH is not to reduce the population but to control the population.  The correct word should be “to control”.  RH bill is an ineffective tool to reduce population.  Guns, gas, diseases and starvation would.

  • Enrique Sanchez

     Pia Cayetano needs to learn proper attribution
    Lifted from pinoytemplars.blogspot

    • EdnaSwank

      Yup! What is sauce for the gander should also be sauce for the goose. Let’s see if they treat her in the same way. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    Even the old Enrile needs to be educated about plagiarism and copyright law.  He is defending Sotto who’s speech triggered criticisms among the local and foreign bloggers.  Mr. Enrile, are you tolerating plagiarism by defending Sotto?  If you copy something, make it a point to quote where it comes from and who is the author of that quote.  Nakakahiya kayong dalawa dahil ginagawa niyong mga tanga ang mga Pilipino!  Here in the U.S., a CNN commentator was suspended 2 weeks by CNN and the other company for copying paragraphs from an author he never quoted.  That CNN commentator profusely apologized to the public and suffered 2 weeks of suspension. Sa Pinas,makakapal ang mukha ng mga tao (galo na ang mga pulitiko) dahil labag na sa batas ay matapang pa ang mga apog na ipagtanggol ang ginawa nilang mga kamalian.  Kawawang Pilipinas!

    • dinadaga

       Huwag mong kalimutan na nasa US ka. May mga batas diyan na di pa naisasabatas dito. Abala ang mga mambabatas dito sa impeachment, sa mga projects para sa kanilang distrito basta may sop na hindi bubukol (sabi nga ni Jun Lozada). Ang dami ngang kaso dito na internet related eh wala pa yatang nakakasuhan.

      • ano ikaw

         If what you are saying is true, then shame on the Phils in this case.

        Cheat is a norm and fact of life in our country?

        Ever wonder why the US only forked out 100K dollars for the victims in the calamity?

        A disbelief. Cheats/corruptions are all the same!

      • Alloywheel1

        I know.  Haven’t you been at Mall?

      • Alloywheel1

        Sorry if it didn’t came out as sarcastic.

      • Alloywheel1

         Piracy galore!!!

  • spearheads

    Sturm D a.k.a. Tamadacjhi: 

    You said “condom can prevent AIDS,” are you a Martian? Medical studies show that AIDS or HIV virus can be trasferred or acquired through exchange of saliva from kissing, through open wound, or oral sex. No need to cite medical authority at baka pati ako pagdiskitahan ni Sarah Pope. Hence, anong gagawin mo sa condom para magamot o maiwasan ang AIDS, isuot mo sa dila, itapal mo sa sugat. o kakainin mo para patunanayan mong “essential medicine” and condom? Answer please Sturm D or Tamadacjhi.

    • Alloywheel1

       May I correct you on two items?  You don’t get AIDS from kissing due to saliva.  Love ones of an AID patient do kiss each other (Love ones a.k.a. parents, siblings and lovers) saying their goodbyes.  The danger is – the loved one might have colds or infection – which puts the AID patient in danger; since he has no immunities to fight bacteria.  A simple cold can kill the AIDS patient.  It is widely known that condom do prevent infection, on all sexually transmittable diseases; unless there is a hole on the condom.
      Oh, you forgot to mention that it can also be transmitted via used syringe and blood transfusion with a contaminated blood.  Just making facts straight.

    • JuanTamadachi

      I am not Sturm D, though I wish I were if only because I admire his writing skills and expertise on RH. Alloywheel1 has already answered your post. In this day and age of the internet, there is really no reason why you pose dumb, benighted questions unless the “pigments” of your imagination are getting the better of you.. Hubba good day..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEL5M676WZ7BLFR4SNH66WKRZM Bigboy I

    sayang meron pang natitira tatlong taon si sotto sa pag ka senador.

    ke manong johnny akala ko ba slogan mo sa campaign mo gusto ko happy ka! eto mag papaligaya kung susuportahan mo ang rh bill.

    watch out sa anak ni enrile si jackie anti-rh din yun.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000464405276 Romar Farcanao

    Wow naman! Whether Tito is right being an anti-RH bill advocate, what he did lifting passages from a source without acknowledging the source is wrong! Defending an improper behavior is wrong! Look, may mga  binabayaran ang mga yan na gumawa ng mga speeches nila at pera po ng bayan ang pinangsasahod sa kanila. Now, if only Tito cared to check his employees’ works bago sya magpakagaling, this would have been all avoided. Or kung sya kaya mismo ang gumawa ng speech nya, siguro… ayon na, siguro di nya kayang gumawa.

  • Garote

    At least, we have 2 senator in the senate who we are sure are humans, who have a heart,  by the name of Sen. Sotto and Sen, Enrile. Most of the senators, like Pia Cayetano, etc. are heartless, unfeeling automatons; they are Herod and Herodess in human skins.

    • Alloywheel1

       Heart is not used for thinking.  The heart is used for feeling.  A person should use the brain, that is logical; rather than the heart, which is emotional.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KKKAP3ZYXRTVYJZVNSGBYXJSUU Greg

    The data that was delivered by Senator Sotto was all factual. So walang problema dun. He was using McBride’s findings about the effect of contraceptives. 

    • grapesofwrath

      Duh! He wasn’t even sure about it. He used Pope’s words verbatim. He can’t even produce a copy of McBride’s study. He only based it on Pope’s words, who he did not acknowledge. Does he even know McBride? WTH?!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

      then why didnt he quoted or at least gave credit to the original source of the blog?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MAL3OYUFIIK2WK3V7ZW6TEUE4U Leonora

    Sen.Enrile was right when he defended Sen.Sotto. He was just telling the truth behind the ill effects of contraceptives. He was sharing his own personal experience to help the public be aware off the issue. 

    • Alloywheel1

       No Sen. Enrile was not right. But, I do expect someone in the senate to defend Mr. Iskul Bukol.  It is a big boys’ club.  That’s why when a congressman is in trouble, somebody in congress will defend the troubled congressman.  Go down the line, the police, the mayors, councilman .  Because of taking credit of someboy’s work, the content of his speech became doubtful or true.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Can a parrot be charge of copyright infringement ?

    • spearheads

      The sad thing is Sotto is only the second parrot. The first parrot is Sarah Pope who incidentally have many nestlings in this forum. Curiously, did Sarah Pope accredited Dr. Campbell-McBride in her blog? If so, then what plagiarism are we talking about in the first place? If not, then who is plagiarizing who?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

         just a wild idea…I mean..everybody can always cites somebody.

      • Alloywheel1

         that’s the whole idea.  If it’s somebody’s, idea, give credit to that person.  Not doing so, you are saying it publicly, that that is your idea.  Give credit where credit is due.  Then, you’re not in trouble.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        just a case of sensationalized copywrong…

      • Alloywheel1

        If Sarah Pope did not accredit Dr. Campbell-McBride, how did you know that there is a Dr. Campbell-McBride?

  • spearheads

    Stop this legal gobbledygook nonsense from lawyer wannabes. Just cite a case law or precedence here in the Philippines or in the US courts, where Sarah Pope resides, that one is convicted of plagiarism by copying from a blog and passing it as his own so that we will settle this issue once and for all whether or not there is plagiarism. 

    And. this challenge goes to the lenthy blogger named Atty. Sturm D and his trolls, who are experts in medical terms, English professors and sometimes parading as global scientist named Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

    • Alloywheel1

      That it may be.  But, among writers (and respectable people), plagiarism is a form of thef.  It is a professional courtesy to give credit to the original idea/writer. Specially, if the work of others are being used in public. He is taking credit on the works of others.  There’s no issue by simply asking permission from the originating writer and giving credit by revealing who did the original work.  No copying please, Mr. Tito Iskul Bukol.

    • grapesofwrath

       What exactly do you want to happen?

  • boybakal

    What is important is the substance.
    Gaya ng Suman, pangit ang balot, pag kinain masarap. Gaya rin ng bibingka, maitim at may himulmul pa pero masarap pag tinikman.

    Sotto’s power point presentation is not good, copy and paste.
    But the concept of his stand against the RH bill is all that matters, whether his idea is copied or not.
    Enough of our Hypocrisy….Copy and Paste is just a computer thing. Let’s go for the real thing
    RH bill is anti life.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

      sino ang nagaagree sa intellect ni boy bakal ,taas ang kamay?

      • grapesofwrath

         Pangalan pa lang, kalawangin na.

      • boybakal

         balot ako bakal, sa ilalim diamond.

      • boybakal

         thank you for giving me recognition.

    • Alloywheel1

      No.  Plagiarism is a kind of thef.  Without disclosing where or from whom he got the idea, it is tacit claim that it is his idea.  Nothing wrong in copying others work, as long as you ask permission from the person who did the work, and disclosing, by quoting, whose idea it came from.  Neglecting to do that, is tantamount to claiming that you made that study.  That is why in books, there are footnotes and indexes, to give credit to the person or persons who did the work.  If he did that, proper disclosure, it won’t be an issue. 

      • mistermiser

        Who would reasonably believe that the good senator collected all the data by himself? Could he have done his own surveys, pored through mountains of medical records and data on public health? No. The best he could have done is get facts from others to support his claim.

        We are not assuming that Tito Sotto has the time or resources to collect scientific data on his own, so we cannot assume the facts he presents were collected from his own effort.

        What we are supposed to examine is whether the sources of his facts are reliable. I agree disclosure of source is an issue here, but not because he took facts from other sources; he deprived the audience, at least for a while, of the opportunity to examine whether the source is a reliable one.

      • boybakal

        No. Plagiarism is a kind of thef.
        Kahit mali ang spelling  papatulan na kita.

        I agree, plagiarism is a kind of thief. Pero unahin muna natin ang Akyat Bahay..

      • JuanTamadachi

        I think Alloywheel1 meant “theft” which was erroneously typed as “thef”

    • UrHONOR

      CORRECT!  Nuff of YOUR hypocrisy.

      • grapesofwrath

         Tara, magnakaw na tayo! Manggahasa! Pumatay! Enough of the hypocrisy!

      • boybakal

         Ngayon ka lang ba ipinanganak….araw araw na nangyayari yan lalo na sa Metro Manila.
        Manood ka naman ng TV Patrol paminsan minsan para magising ka sa katotohanan.

      • UrHONOR

        TINGNAN nyo ‘tong mokong na ito at gusto pa akong gawing tulad nyang MANGGAGAHASA , MAGNANAKAW, at MAMAMATAY-TAO.  Ikaw na lang Dhong.  Dapat i-report ka sa PNP para matiklo ka at masama ka sa mga MMM ng bayan!  Kung ako ikaw, susurender na ako ng peacefully para hindi na madamay pa ang mga mahal mo sa buhay (kung meron).

        Hamo na yang hypocrisy-hypocrisy na yan…..yang CRIMINAL MIND mo and your CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ang pansinin mo.  Kaawaan ka nawa ng mga preso pag nakulong ka na.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7SMLL2TFZ6GLXSDI72JXJL7YM Glenn

      Do u believe on this: Vox Populi, Vox Dei!

      If YES or you do so, let’s cast our vote or let congress/senators
      cast their vote to choose either Pro or Anti RH Bill? Not the way around
      to threat the congressmen/senators to turn down in the coming elections
      if sided with Pro-RH Bill!

      If NO or you don’t, it’s your call! and Definitely, NO to Plagiarism as
      well …but don’t say NO to sorry if you did wrongful act — A lying
      Thief!

      • boybakal

         A Lying Thief….that is Plagiarism…

  • grapesofwrath

    Oh my… Ang daming comments dito na nag-ju-justify ng pagnanakaw! Are you kidding? Mga cheaters malamang kayo!

    • ano ikaw

       You should not be surprised. It is a shame. Ever wonder why our universities, our govt and over all Filipino psyche considered a cheat around the world? Because leaders of this govt (SC and now the Senate) cheat, and have the audacity to defend and rationalize it in a wider community.

      Nakakahiya maging/bilang isang Pilipino!

      • $25214711

        Hindi ako nahihiyang maging pinoy. 
        Dapat yung naghalal kay sotto ang mahiya.

      • grapesofwrath

         Nakakahiya ang ilang kapwang Pilipino like those we mentioned. But I never saw being Filipino as nakakahiya or else we will be among the reasons why we are nakakahiya.

  • grapesofwrath

    If the parrot is delivering a speech in public.

  • imongredneck

    Plagiarism is plagiarism, Senator Enrile. Sotto’s allegation that the birth control pill had something to with his newborn is baseless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

    sotto commited the act of plagiarism. he could have just admitted it and apologize, but his staff still defends their wrongful act.

  • ano ikaw

    Garapal. Walang hiya talaga.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7SMLL2TFZ6GLXSDI72JXJL7YM Glenn

    Answer d ???

    Who’s into this? Is Church believes on this:
    Vox Populi, Vox Dei!

    If YES or you do so, let’s cast our vote or let congress/senators cast their vote to choose either Pro or Anti RH Bill? Not the way around to threat the congressmen/senators to turn down in the coming elections if sided with Pro-RH Bill!

    If NO or you don’t, it’s your call? Definitely, NO to Plagiarism as well …but don’t say NO to sorry if you did wrongful act — A lying Thief!

  • spearheads

    Now, the cat is out of the bag.

    The original “blogger” who attacked Sotto’s alleged plagiarism is Alfredo Melgar, an official of Likhaan which Sotto exposed as a regular recipient of funds from International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF) – the largest provider of abortion services. Also, Melgar was one of the authors of The Lancet which twisted the true report of an independent group of well known medical practitioners. This Lancet Report is the source of Cayetano’s twisted numbers of maternal deaths. The report on the true situation of maternal deaths is embodied in “Maternal Deaths in 181 countries – 1980- 2008, a systematic analysis progress towards Millennium Development goal” authored by reputable medical practitioners. Also the group found that maternal deaths plunged in the Philippines to 81%. Melgar and company and the Likhaan feared that their source of income from IPPF would be cut off because of this development hence, they manufactured their own Report called The Lancet. (source pinaytemplar.blogspot)
    What’s the authority of Melgar to write a Report on Maternal Deaths when he is the coordinator, on line editor, and fianance officer of Likhaan?

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      Great info. Thanks for sharing. =)

      • spearheads

        Funny, but Sen. Pia Cayetano also copied not only the ideas of Likhaan, if you can call it ideas, but also from other sources without proper attribution. Yet, Cayetano is not attacked for “alleged plagiarism.” What’s sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose, isn’t it Alfredo Melgar?

      • grapesofwrath

         Because no one pointed it out.

        Now, can you please point it out? Can you please show us Cayetano’s speech and then show us where she copied parts of it from verbatim?

    • grapesofwrath

       Argumentum ad hominem

      • Garote

        Two things you obviously do not understand: (1) plagiarism; and (2) Argumentum ad hominem.

  • DarkJustice

    Sotto shld not blame the contraceptive alone for the death of his son or abnormalities..There are many factors may had contributed. If his wife was  taking pills religiously,how on earth she became pregnant? 

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      “If his wife was  taking pills religiously,how on earth she became pregnant?”

      Pill glitch.

    • grapesofwrath

       Because Sotto lied. How could his wife take a pill that did not exist until five years later?

  • Garote

    Why is Sarah Pope shouting plagiarism when the research is that of McBride’s. I don’t hear McBride shouting plagiarism at Sotto, why is Pope shouting plagiarism?  If it is okey for McBride that Sotto uses her research result,  why is Pope complaining. Sarah Pope should better shut up for the simple reason that she does not own McBride’s research.

    • grapesofwrath

      Because it was Pope’s words which were copied verbatim, not McBride’s! For Christ’s sake, Sotto doesn’t even know McBride! His speech writer, under Sotto’s order, just did a Google search and copied and stitched whatever he/she could.

      • Simon Ward

        Ditto on “For Christ’s sake”! Some – a few – people in this thread seem to be absolutely DETERMINED not to understand the meaning of plagiarism.

      • Garote

        For Christ’s sake: you take out the McBride’s findings from the alleged “copied verbatim” sentence, what do you have? Articles, noun. verb, and some connective words, etc. when read together meant nothing.In other words, without the McBride’s findings in that sentence, what Pope had added are gibberish.How could Sarah Pope now honestly claim  plagiarism when what she had written is nothing, unless she would own up McBride’s findings as also hers. This is what I believe Sarah Pope is doing — impliedly claiming that she is the author of Mc’Bride’s findings.

    • Guest

      Do you really know what plagiarism is? just asking…

      • Garote

        Ask yourself that question, obviously you don’t.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      Wow, your brain  lack IQ points.

      • Garote

        Don’t pretend you have an IQ higher than a 5th grade student,

      • ano ikaw

        Garote, you are obviously a relative of that thief.

      • Garote

        Ano-ikaw, you are undeniably a relative of those baby killers.

      • Garote

         ano ikaw, you are undeniably a relative of the baby kil – lers

      • Garote

        I’m sure Herod is your great, great, great grandfather . . . .

      • Garote

        You own a butchery business, and this is a family business. The business name is called Plan Parenthood/RH bill.

      • Garote

         ano ikaw, you are obviously a relative of the abortionists.

      • Garote

        and you a relative of the abor -tionist

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZILKVAF6WDAR7PKVJJTAX4RIQE Winston

      Sarah Pope is shouting plagiarism because while she used McBride’s idea, she used her own words to explain it, and posted it on internet. That made it her own intellectual property. That is why McBride didn’t raise any voice against it. 

      • Garote

        What intellectual property are you talking about? Is Sarah Pope now claiming McBride’s findings as her own, because she used it in her blog by just adding some words of her own? Don’t talk about intellectual property, because Sarah Pope just borrowed McBride’s findings. She copied and used it, that does not mean she owns it. Take out McBride’s findings from Pope’s sentence she had written, what do you have? You have only articles (the, a, an). some verbs, coordinates and connective words, etc. when read together they meant nothing. In other words, without the McBride’s findings in that sentence, what Pope had added are gibberish.How could Sarah Pope now honestly claim McBride’s work as her intellectual property?  My God, this is stealing without shame! The nerve of Sarah Pope accusing Sen. Sotto of plagiarism, when she is the real lying thief!

  • UrHONOR

    IN short, PALUSOT, part II!

    Above suspicion is the key idea…ABOVE SUSPICION.  What worked for Boy Faura CORONA should also work for them who voted to boot him out of SC. Enrile and Sotto, the Oly and Hardy of the PH Seneyt, SAPUL na kayo…huwag ng umilag at hindi lulusot ang pasulot sa bayang magiliw.

  • spearheads

    Ad hominem your behind. Pia Cayetano is also guilty of copying without proper attribution. Is this not connected to the issue? Is misleading the people positive development on RH bill?

    • grapesofwrath

       So be it. Doesn’t deny the fact that Sotto plagiarized, denied an obvious fact, and you s*cked his a$$.

  • grapesofwrath

     Apology.

    If on the onset of this issue Sotto immediatley apologized and admitted to an honest mistake, which I think it was, the issue could have been over in a couple of days. But no, your man of God is to humble to apologize.

    • Garote

       If Sotto is a man of God, what are you, man of the Dev – il?

  • boybakal

    We should support our Own.
    We should support Tito Sotto and his stand against RH Bill.
    What he thinks is right, is right for us Filipinos.

    Why support Sarah Pope. She is also a blogger.
    Her idea is same idea of Tito. They have the same thinking and same stand.
    No problem about that.

    Plagiarism is just an new old word for us.
    Maganda sa tenga pero luma na.
    Tama na ang inyong intellectual opinion kuno. Feeling nyo lang matalino.
    Magaling pa nga si Tito, he can deliver a speech and defend his stance against RH bill in the senate complete with crying.
    Kayo, kaya nyo ba yon. Hindi. Dito lang kayo magaling.
    Anonymous…

    • against_discrimination

      saan ka galing????? sa cave? di mo alam ang copyrights? cheating? plagiarism? piracy?

      • boybakal

         Ako, malinis na galing sa aking ina.
        Dahil walang pills or contraceptive na ginamit na ako ay kanyang ipinag bubuntis.
        Lumabas akong ORGANIC purong puro, walang pataba kundi gatas ng aking ina.

        Ikaw saan ka galing? seguro HYBRID ka from contraceptive pills kaya panay ang tanong mo.
        Alam mo pala ang copy rights at piracy…yan muna ang unahin mong lutasin.
        Yan plagiarism, isip lang yan ng dalawang matalinong tao si Sotto at Pope, kaya pareho ng iniisip.

      • against_discrimination

         of course pag walang pills di mabubuntis ina mo! logic diba? haha

      • Alloywheel1

         Correct si against_discrimination.  Kung gumamit ng pills ang nanay mo,  hindi siya mabubuntis.  Wala ka dito sa mundo.  Hindi ibig sabihin ‘malinis’ ka.  Ibig sabihin, wala pang ‘pills’ ng panahon na ginagawa ka.  O, mahirap kayo at hindi kayang makabili ng pills and nanay mo.  Arya lang ng arya.  Si Sotto at si Pope?  Pareho nga sila ng isip – pero ang isa ay orihinal.  At, ang isa ay kopya.  Pagkatapos, mukhang ina-angkin niya, na itong ideya ay kanya.  Yuon ang pinag-iba.

    • Guest

       you sound like Sotto’s lawyer. Tito and his lawyer are both ignorant of plagiarism.

      • done_druff

        So take us to school what is plagiarism. You seems to be an expert that Ernile.

        Don’t tell me to search for the internet. I want you to tell that to me. 

        And if I find you quoting a source from the net and did not attribute them, you are no different that Sotto that you accused!

    • Alloywheel1

       Boybakal..thanks for calling my attention for misspelling theft, without the ”t’. In return, I’ll do you a favor. May I  call your attention on your grammar.  “just an new old word for us”.
      Instead of “an” it should be “a” because the following word is a consonant. You should not use “new old” right after the other.  Is it new?  Or, is it old?  At saka, you can’t be an “anonymous” and “boybakal” at the same time.  It becomes redundancy. Further, your sentence, “Why support Sarah Pope.” is an incomplete sentence.  But, if you put a question mark rather than period – like “Why support Sarah Pope?” Then, that will be a complete sentence.  Mayroon pa, kaya lang…That will be your lesson for today …. Read chapter 2 as your homework

      • 1tanda1

        Teacher ka ba ng English, pare ko?

      • ano ikaw

         I think you meant “the first letter of the following word is consonant” not ” the following word is a consonant” 

  • Jerry_SeinfeId

    Sen. Sotto is an a-r-t-i-s-t and he has no business in politics. Nakapwesto siya sa senado kasi sikat sa Eat Bulaga. Di pa din natututo si Juan — dumaan na si Erap, si Jawo, si Bong Revilla Sr. & Jr., Lito Lapid. Ayan ngayon naman si Aga, eh di iboto nyo na din si Annabelle Rama. Kawawang Pilipinas.
     
    Si Sotto, tanga na nga hambog pa. Ikaw na nangopya, ikaw pa mayabang. Cold blooded bopols, nakakahiya ka sa buong mundo. Ipinahiya mo na naman ang mga Pilipino.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5FRET3QFWFPXTO4AP4TYA2XX5I Anjo Ray

    ang daming depensa dito kay Sotto . . . ang alam ko lang kay Sotto ay isang komikero at isang artista. Manood na lang kayo ng Eat Bulaga!

    • done_druff

      So ibig mo bang sabihin hindi na sya capable magsabi ng totoo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

        yes, hindi siya capable kasi nga komedyante eh…you can’t take a comedian seriously ,do you? all you can do is laugh at his jokes nothing more…just entertainment…that’s all

      • 4thINFSgt

        Another good point. I saw this dude in 1993 at the Manila Domestic Airport. He was looking at a lady’s legs and he almost tripped. You should have seen the look on his face. Tito will always be Tito. Just like Erap will always be Erap. 

      • Leonardof

        It is not a question of sotto’s capability to say the truth, it is the denial of his culpability of plagiarizm as well as his lying about his wife’s taking of “Diane” which was non-existent at the time of her death.  

      • 4thINFSgt

        Good point! 

  • 4thINFSgt

    It’s the blind leading the blind. Any which way you twist and turn it. 

  • 4kingdaddy

    “Let’s not crucify Tito for telling the truth about what happened to his family. If the data he read were true, why can’t he use it to bolster his argument,” Enrile asked.

    The Senate President said it was foremost that Sotto present data that were correct. “If Tito used (McBride’s findings) to explain why he is against the RH bill, it is because he wanted to warn the rest of us about the tragedy that happened to his family. Should we not respect that?”

    objection, mr. senate president…. argumentative….plagiarism IS plagiarism….

  • Leonardof

    Now my true feeling that Sen. Enrile voted for the ouster of corona because of political expediency has been bolstered by his uncanny defense of Eat Bulaga sotto. I hope that the voters can perceived a true blue politician like enrile, one who would do anything, such as faking assasination in order to be voted upon.

    • done_druff

      And now you are attacking Ernile for defending Sotto! Why can’t you answer Enrile’s argument? Did Sotto lie? Did he present wrong or false data?!

      Come on, stop bickering!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

        Here’s an answer to that:

        Sotto said:

        Diane po ang pangalan ng pills na ginamit ng aking asawa noon.”

        According to him, his wife was taking this drug 37 years ago, in 1975.

        But Diane® was only introduced in 1978. Three years later.

        How could he claim his wife was taking a drug that did not exist yet?

        These are the facts as reported by the Philippine Star.

        You can either believe the facts. Or just continue to be in denial, and come up with more excuses for him.

        No to Iskul Bukol politicians, YES to RH Law.

      • Leonardof

        You are so dumb not to see the lies of sotto.

      • done_druff

        No, he did not lie. Is plagiarism lying?

        And you are so dumb not to see the truth behind his claims and only to linger on the issue of plagiarism!

      • Leonardof

        It is clear as the sunlight that sotto lied when he blamed the “Diane” contraceptive of the death of his wife. “Diane” was not in the market yet at the time of his wife’s death. Only plain ignoramus cannot see the lie.

    • deejon

      The issue Mr. Enrile is not whether the data was right or wrong but that Sotto gave his speech giving the impression that he was its author. That he is for the RH Bill for whatever reason is beside the point.The point is, he plagiarized. And, even if it was his staff who did it, he should have taken command responsibility over the error. But I guess Sotto feels he’s above everyone else. And he wants people to respect him? Respect is earned not mandated.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    SOTTO is a LYING THIEF

  • 1tanda1

    The Honorable Senate President and my IDOL ka-LETRANISTA Senator Tito Sotto were right. Everything in this world is copied. If you use the word “the” or any word that we use in our everyday communication, does that mean we are just copying what is in the dictionary? By the way, pardon my ignorance, is the dictionary copyrighted? bwahahahahaha!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZILKVAF6WDAR7PKVJJTAX4RIQE Winston

      Dear honorable 1Tanda1,

      Here’s a case. Kung gumawa ka ng speech at nakita ito sa internet, tapos kinopya ko at ginamit at pinalabas ko na akin, hindi po kaya magrereklamo kayo? O kaya gumawa ka ng mga tula at nakita sa internet tapos kinopya ng iba at binenta at kumita ng malaki, di kaya kayo magrereklamo. Just asking po.

      • done_druff

        Alam mo, anything na nasa internet ay pwedeng mong gawing source unless may copyright ang document.

        At hindi naman sinabi ni Sotto na kanya ang mga information na sinabi nya.

      • ano ikaw

        If someone was offended and raised amok for someone breaching her work, what usually a normal and sane /smart person do?

        Apologize.

        But these morons, instead, trumpheted with sheer audacity their semblance and propensity to tolerate dishonesty.

        Shame on you Mr Sotto. You are an epitome of a cheat, a lying thief.

    • Alloywheel1

       dear honorable 1Tanda1.  Not everything in this world is copied.  There are some you can.  There are some you can’t.  And if you are smart, as you say you are, you should know the difference.  Your idol, Mr. Iskul Bukol, from Letran, apparently does not.  That’s alright.  Progress will live on.  And those who live back in time,  will just die away.  Remember, the dinosaurs?

  • Garote

    The pro-RH bill advocates know that they have been caught manipulating data and twisting the truth. They know they are losing, because the RH bill will not pass into law. This is why they are now shifting gear and are doing character assassination of Honorable Tito Sotto and Honorable Ponce Enrile. These Herods and Herodess in human skins are disgusting, to say the least.

    • ano ikaw

       Honorable? Ang kapal naman.

      • Garote

        Eh ano ang tawag natin sa ating mga senators, congressmen at mga justices diba “Honorable”? Kawawa naman kayo, simply na simply hindi ninyo alam.

      • ano ikaw

         kawatan Sotto, Kawatan enrile, more appropriate.

      • Alloywheel1

         You don’t give honor to everyone.  Else, the word will become meaningless.  Honorable means deserving or winning honor and respect.  You don’t have to be a senator to be called ‘Honorable’.  One can be a janitor who did his job well; thus, he is honorable to me.  Compared to a senator who is a liar and a thief, the other the mastermind of martial law, and probably responsible for castration and killings of many.  That is not honorable to me.  You can call them ‘Mister'; just to be polite.

      • Garote

        Alloywheel,  you’re getting rusty in your head, imagine calling a janitor “Honorable.” Put some rustproof oil in your head to prevent further mental rusting . . . LOL !

      • Alloywheel1

         ano ikaw…thanks for correcting my lapses.  Much oblige.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

      horrific kamo…

    • Alloywheel1

       Honorable?  Magnanakaw.  Honorable?  Herod and Herodess in human skins?  If one is human, then they must have skin, to be alive.  That’s unnecessary extra word.  Honorable?  Sotto and Enrile?  A thief and the brain of martial law who castrated and probably killed a lot of people?  A “Johnny come lately” because he lost favor from the dictator and his neck was on the line?  Honorable?  Really?

  • doublecross

    SHAME ON YOU, TITO.

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Enrile, gaano ka man ka-edukado, ay passe (luma) na ang education mo.  Hindi ka na updated sa electronic sources of documentation.  Kaya akala mo ang plagiarism from the internet is not considered plagiarism.

    Hindi mo pa sinasagot kung ano ang role mo noong panahon ni Marcos.  Magkaka-kampi kayong dalawa sa pag-gawa ng imaginary huk-balahap activities.  Mayroon ka ring pinadedo, ano?

  • titolim

    kung baga sa magnanakaw, na huli na, pero tanggi pa ng tanggi.

  • http://twitter.com/ernestonoel1 hopelovefaith

    Kaya kayong mga mahal kong kababayan na bilib na bilib kay Enrile ay think twice.  Itong matandang ito will not care for you and me. 

    Gusto lang nitong maisulat sa history na mayroon siyang ginawang mabuti like iyong impeachment trial.  Kaya ngayon ay heto at lumalabas ang tunay na kulay.

    He only cares for his panero, compadre sotto and the candidacy of his son.  Pwe.  Flush ko kayong dalasa sa kubeta. 

    Filipinos don’t need Enrile’s self-serving intelligence.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Why are we condemning our fellow Filipinos because of what an American say? This is just a part of a big game that the  pro RH is now playing because they are now on the losing side. Lumalabas na ang totoo sa RH bill. Tayo naman mga Filipino hindi nag- iisip ng malalim.

    • Alloywheel1

       O yes.  Nag-isip ka nang malalim.  Isi-na-tabi mo ang pagnanakaw.  Dahil isang Pilipino ang nagnakaw, kinampihan mo; dhail ang sumigaw ng “Magnanakaw!!!  Magnanakaw!!!” ay Amerikano.  Ang lalim ang naisip mo.  Bilib ako (sarcasticcally, in case you don’t know the difference).  Kristiyano ka nga.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/A7BBDAMMUD7VZ2FTY6RYRQE5FM Harold

        No to RH bill! Di na dapat tayo mag paloko sa mga binibitawang salita ng mga Pro RH bill dahil puro kasinungalingan naman un eh!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000875147828 Javier Macalalad Evasco

    Whatever!

  • rex balad

    The whole point here is the RH Bill itself. Wag na sana palakihin pa ang issue. Walang kasalanan si Sen.Sotto kung hindi talaga makakabuti ang RH Bill para sa bansa.

  • rex balad

    Hindi naman mali yung nilahad ni Sotto sa kaniyang speech, lahat ng sinabi niya dun ay totoo at maaring mangyari sa nakakarami kung maipapasa ang RH Bill.

    • Alloywheel1

       So, one fluke ignores the many.  Bakit mo isana-walang bahala, ang milyon-milyon  gumamit ng pills na walang adverse effect sa kanila, sa kaisa-isang kaso ni Sen. Iskul Bukol.  Hindi kaya the genetics ang problema ni Mr. Escalera, kaya nagka-ganuon ang bata?  Have you read other cases?  Wala akong nababasa mula sa ano mang bansa ng Food and Drugs Bureau, or any medical group, na nagsasabi na masama ito sa katawan ng tao kaya itigil.  All medicines have side-effects.  Does that mean you will stop taking medicine?  Kung hindi ito makakabuti sa bansa, bakit mabuti ito sa U.S., Europe, Japan, Italy (where the Vatican is).  Mas napasama ba sila kaysa sa atin?  Birth Control pills had been existing since the 60s.  A lot of study and testing was made and find the efficacy of it to be safe and effective.  Ang sayo, ay haka-haka.  A conclusion made by an ordinary person who did not rely on the studies of medical experts rather from others who are neither expert nor  has any evidence to repute otherwise. Who is your source? Albularyo?

  • rex balad

    Wag natin sisihin si Sen.Sotto dahil gusto niya lang ipaglaban
    kung ano ang tama.

  • rex balad

    We still support you Sen.Sotto for sharing your own experience
    para mamulat ang bansa sa katotohanan.

    • Alloywheel1

       That is fine.  That’s what democracy is all about.  Although I don’t agree with your stand. It’s totally okay.  It is your choice to be identified with a thief of ideas – then go on.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

      ang katotohanan ay ang RH bill ay ginawa hindi para atakihin ang relihiyong katoliko,kundi para solusyunan ang isang majority concern para sa mga Filipino

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/A7BBDAMMUD7VZ2FTY6RYRQE5FM Harold

        Walang tamang sinabi yang mga pro RH bill! Puro kasinungalingan lang para madaling maloko ng mga tao! Mga sarili lang nila ang iniisip nila, ang mga kayamanan ng bayan na makukuha nila! NO TO RH BILL!

  • Garote

    Is Sarah Pope now claiming McBride’s findings as her own, because she used it in her blog
    by just adding some words of her own? Don’t talk about intellectual property, because Sarah Pope just borrowed McBride’s findings. She copied and used it, that does not mean she owns it. Take out McBride’s findings from Pope’s sentence she had written, what do you have? You have only articles (the, a, an). some verbs, coordinates and connective words, etc. when read together they meant nothing. In other words, without the McBride’s findings in that sentence, what Pope had added are gibberish.How could Sarah Pope now honestly claim McBride’s work as her intellectual property?  My God, this is stealing without shame! The nerve of Sarah Pope accusing Sen. Sotto of plagiarism, when she is the real lying thief!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B7TMRV4Q3QTVSVOXYICW65Y5JA marcus

       Garote, don’t talk about intellectual property if you yourself don’t know the rules behind it.  Sarah Pope gave credit to McBride’s ideas and put it in her own her words.  Again, i will repeat, she gave credit where it’s due. She acknowledged McBride and put McBride’s ideas into her own words.  She did not, I repeat, she did not copy McBride’s words therefore it isn’t plagiarism.  Obviously you don’t know the exact definition of Plagiarism.  What SOTTO and his team did was just that! He copied from Sarah Pope’s. WORD FOR WORD.  Not only he and his team copied her word for word, the worst part is that he did not acknowledge neither McBride or Pope. 

      I assume that you are against the RH bill. That’s ok.  We all have different values. I don’t mind if you are against the RH BILL.  However, for you to defend such recklessness done by a senator, is very appalling. 

      • Garote

        You assume a lot of things. You assume you know the rules and definitions behind the words “intellectual property” and”plagiarism,” which I know you don’t. The unfortunate thing is you assume that you have the correct understanding of these words, when you don’t.The worst part is when you refuse to admit you are wrong. In psychiatry, it’s a personality disorder called “narcissism.”

      • Leonardof

        “Garote” reminds me of method used to execute the three Filipino priests,
        Gomez, Burgos and Zamora by the Spaniards. They were executed  because they exposed the sufferings of the Filipinos imposed by the church.

        Apparently, Father Damaso’s spirit resides in you. Just like Father Damaso, you are happy to have Filipinos suffer from poverty and the lack of education. That is why you are against the RH Bill and that your love for (using the words of Ms. Pope) ” lying and stealing” sotto.

      • Garote

        The spirit of GomBurZa resides in me. This is why I am preventing the foreign  pharmaceutical companies (like the foreign Spaniards) and traitors from hurting the helpless Filiipino babies and their mothers from the effect of contraceptive pills that cause cancer. During the Spanish time, there were Filipino traitors who sided with the foreign abusers; today we have Filipino traitors siding with foreign pharmaceuticals to abuse our children and women.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6L2QCCYRYJZLHMET4JLNWPB46U ampyrms

        Garote, the RH bill does not only focus on contraceptive pills, you know that right? We all have the same goal in our position on RH bill, and that’s to protect the Filipino People, but to reason out that we are abusing our children and women when we are pro, is untrue. We just want them to know how to control their multiplication(using different methods of their CHOICE), for women’s health and children to be brought up, with enough food in their table(bec. of lesser mouth to feed, hopefully.) and be able to go to school and be guided by their parents. With regards to the “plagiarism” thing, the good senator could have avoided the damage, if his staff have the humility to admit their mistakes, and for him to admit their incompetency.

      • Garote

        RH bill is about P13.7 billion to be set aside yearly for the pharmaceutical companies’ condoms and contraceptives. It was never about the health concern and protection of the Filipino women and babies. These pro-RH bill lawmakers and pharmaceutical companies do not care less what happen to these women and their babies, as long as these companies are assured of the annual billions of pesos sale of its products and the lawmakers get their lobby money for passing the RH bill.

        Moreover, how could  Sarah Pope accuse Sotto of plagiarism and lying when Sotto correctly attributed what he said to McBride, who is the author of the findings against contraceptives. If Sotto attributed McBride’s finding to Pope that would be wrong. It was stealing the work of McBride when Pope wanted Sotto to attribute McBride’s findings to her (Pope). And when Sotto refused, Pope accused him of plagiarism and lying. Sotto was right not to attribute McBride’s work to Pope.

    • Leonardof

      You are so confused, Garote. How could you accuse Sarah Pope of plagiarism and of lying when the lady attributed what she said in her blog to McBride? Isn’t that stupid of you?

      You see, it is not too late for you to know that your mind has so much been abused by the church by the constant inculcation of tall tales and fairy tales written in the bible. You are so confused not to perceive the importance of the RH Bill to our country in its quest for progress. Perhaps you have never gone to slum areas where you can see people living in make-shift houses, many children running around with bare bodies, scrounging for food in garbage dumps, and where young kids do not go to schools.

      Have you ever wonder why the church is against the RH Bill? Have you ever thought of youself being used by the church for its economic and social interests? Have it ever occurred to your mind that the church will not benefit if most Filipinos are better educated, because if the Filipinos are better educated, they will be thinking more and not be easily made to follow what the church says. The church had learnt it and fears for many Rizals.
      The interest of the church is to keep the population growing so that there will be more uneducated people who will blindly follow the church. And the more the births are, the more income the church will have from baptisms, Sunday collections and burial rites.

      Cast away the the vestige of “GAROTE” mentality, think of Rizal and not Father Damaso.

      • Garote

        RH bill is about P13.7 billion to be set aside yearly for the pharmaceutical companies’ condoms and contraceptives. It was never about the health concern and protection of the Filipino women and babies. These pro-RH bill lawmakers and pharmaceutical companies do not care less what happen to these women and their babies, as long as these companies are assured of the annual billions of pesos sale of its products and the lawmakers get their lobby money for passing the RH bill. Do you understand this, Leonardof?

        Moreover, using your own logic: how could you and Sarah Pope accuse Sotto of plagiarism and lying when Sotto correctly attributed what he said to McBride, who is the author of the findings against contraceptives. Isn’t that stupid of you and Pope to do this?

        If Sotto attributed McBride’s finding to Pope that would be wrong, is that not correct Leonardof? It was stealing the work of McBride when Pope wanted Sotto to attribute McBride’s findings to her (Pope). do you agree? And when Sotto refused, Pope accused him of plagiarism and lying. Sotto was right not to attribute McBride’s work to Pope, wasn’t he? So Leonadof, a word of advice: if you don’t  comprehend an issue or topic refrain from commenting. The way you commented reminds me of how confused mentally Jack Nicholson was in the movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”
         

      • Leonardof

        It is plain and simple stupidity of you to say that the budget of P13.7 billion to be set aside for the pharmaceutical companies’ condoms and contraceptives. The use of condoms and contraceptives are just a part of the bigger picture of reproductive health law, education and health services. Reading the blog of marcus, I am incline to believe that you are just a NUTS. .    

      • Garote

        Are you in some way related to Brenda? Why not change your “Leonardof” to something that sounds like Brenda . .   Brando? Or . . .yes BRENDO. Hmmm . . . .let’s see . . . ah, BRENDOF! . . much better.

      • Leonardof

        I assure you nitwit, my brain is functioning very well, no iota of damage. Thus in retort to your suggestion, I strongly suggest that it is you who must  change your Garote, a spiteful word that reminds people of the despicable situation of the Filipinos during the Spanish occupation of the Philippines. By the way, did your boss, sotto, not fire you for your incompetense?  

      • Garote

        Gud morning Brendof, have u taken ur medicine? Ur boss, the pharmaceutical, has free and unlimited supply of medicines for u to make u mentally well . . . Now take ur medicine . . . . CUCKOO! CUCKOO!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JH5GYLZBYJN6FYYUZQWKTSGO4U Boy Pac

    if he didnt plagiarized the blogger then he is not a lying thief. and vise versa

  • No_Noise

    C.mon–it’s just wrong–it’s wrong–for anyone–let alone a Senator–a SENATOR for god’s sake! It’s just wrong, and there’s nothing anyone can say to change that. If Mr. Sotto truly felt so strongly about his argument, he should have been able to come up with his own thoughts on the debate. It’s wrong and shame on him for using his son’s death-a tragic personal part of HIS life–as a reason to decide how other people should live their lives.

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