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One of the more visible faces of the weather bureau, forecaster Jori Loiz appears on television nearly every day to inform the public about the approach of a typhoon or its passage through the country.

On certain days, Loiz is not there, and the reason can make your tears fall like rain: He is absent because he has no money to pay the bus fare from his home in Balagtas town in Bulacan province to the head office of the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (Pagasa) in Quezon City.

“My take-home pay is P12,000. For someone who has kids studying in college and high school, that is hardly enough,” said the 48-year-old Loiz, who has been working at Pagasa for 16 years.

Loiz’s situation underscores the plight of some 900 Pagasa employees, who staged a protest on Tuesday over suspended cash benefits and warned that forecasting services could deteriorate if the problem persisted.

The forecasters and other employees of the weather bureau wore black armbands and hoisted streamers urging the government to resume the payment of their hazard pay and other allowances, which were suspended in March.

“The continuing hardship is now taking its toll on Pagasa warning services. Many of our personnel, especially those working in the field, fail to report for duty because they have no money,” said Ramon Agustin, president of the Philippine Weathermen Employees Association (PWEA).

Aquino intervenes

Within an hour of hearing that, President Aquino appeared at Pagasa, startling the protesting employees.

Accompanied by Science Secretary Mario Montejo and Budget Secretary Florencio Abad, Mr. Aquino assured the weathermen that they would get their hazard pay, with employees involved in the technical side of the agency’s operation getting paid first.

“First, what’s fair?” Mr. Aquino said in a talk with reporters after his meeting with the weathermen. “It’s fair when the added benefit really goes to those on hazardous assignment. Those not on hazardous duty should not be entitled to it.”

The Pagasa employees are also demanding the release of their longevity pay, subsistence and laundry allowances.

“We have no issue on that,” Mr. Aquino said.

“But when it comes to hazard pay, there has to be rhyme and reason,” he said.

The President said he reminded the Pagasa employees that their unpaid benefits should not cloud their duty to the public.

“We are experiencing such bad weather … and those who were affected by floods are still suffering. Let us not add to that,” Mr. Aquino said.

When?

So when will the Pagasa employees get their benefits?

Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma explained it for reporters: The hazard pay, subsistence allowance, laundry and longevity pay of the weathermen from April to June would be paid “on the same terms” as in the first quarter of the year.

As for the payment of the benefits for July and August, the funding source would still be reviewed, Coloma said, quoting the President.

Coloma explained that the benefits mandated by Republic Act No. 8349 do not fall under personnel services, miscellaneous and other operating expenses and are funded with savings from three major items in the national budget.

Abad said Coloma’s explanation was correct. The budget department would fund the benefits for the first semester, he said.

At Pagasa, Agustin spoke to reporters about the weathermen’s plight.

He said one weather observer, whom he identified as Alex San Pedro, died of a stroke because he was unable to finance his medication for diabetes. San Pedro worked the night shift at the Pagasa Science Garden synoptic station until he died in May.

 

Montejo’s promise

The budget department suspended the benefits of the weathermen five months ago. In July, Science Secretary Montejo promised that the benefits would be restored by August.

It’s mid-August, but the government has not delivered on that promise, Agustin said.

“As the promised restoration of benefits is still nowhere in sight, patriotism and professionalism may no longer be a culture in Pagasa because of our aching stomachs,” Agustin said, reading from a prepared statement.

If the benefits are restored, employees like Loiz will receive P6,000 or more, depending on length of service, in addition to their basic pay.

“That is not a lot of money, but it’s going to help a lot,” Loiz said.

Forecasters’ exodus

Agustin warned that the “demoralization” and “economic dislocation” among the bureau’s employees might lead to lower efficiency in performance. “It may also lead to the exodus of more of Pagasa’s veteran specialists,” he said.

He said that by his count, 22 weather forecasters have left Pagasa for jobs overseas in the last 10 years.

“The reason Filipino forecasters are so in-demand in other countries is that they have plenty of experience with typhoons,” Agustin said. “We get 20 typhoons every year. In other countries, they may have more advanced equipment but few storms visit them,” he said.

For ordinary people

Loiz assured the public that the basic role of Pagasa of issuing up-to-date advisories on weather systems will not be compromised.

“What we do is not really for the higher-ups, but for ordinary people who stand to suffer if we don’t perform our duties properly,” he said. With reports from TJ Burgonio and AP

Originally posted: 11:47 pm | Tuesday, August 14th, 2012


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  • capricorn197

    Mr. President, Secretary Montejo , DBM, pakibilisan kasi ang pagkilos. Mag set kasi ng date hindi lang – by August. Kung di pa naisa publiko ang demands ng mga Pag asa employees di ninyo sila bibigyan ng update. Hay naku……
     

  • pobre0000

    surely, aquino III’s governance does not know how to spend money correctly because of paranoia.

  • pening

    Pnoy you are learning that some of your subordinates are  not doing their jobs so a public demands put the govt. in bad light. Imagine 6000 pesos your people can not do it w/o you going to them publicly. 6000 pesos could just be for one dinner for rich people.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

    Pnoy baka i tterminate mo na naman sila, believe na tlaga ako sayo.. 12,000 pesos per month na sueldo  isipin mo yan, may mga iba pa dyan mas mababa lalo na sa mga private companies (lalo na sa mga chinese companies),license engineer ang sueldo 10,000 pesos. saleslady ng SM ang baba ng sueldo contractual pa tapos si employer pinakamayaman sa pinas..

  • manggoding

    Kawawa naman pala itong PagAsa.
    Imagine, baha, bagyo,lindol sila ang nangunguna sa pagbibigay ng babala sa mga tao, tapos ganoon lang ang sweldo.
    Yon mga congressman at senador, bibig lang ang gamit ang laki ng sweldo, allowance, perdiem,pork barrel.
    Inequality in pay.
    Ayusin mo rin yan Pnoy…kaya mo yan. Alam mo naman pag ikaw ang nagutos, sunod agad.

  • mynnyx

    kawawa pala ang mga taga pag- asa yong mga mataas na tao sa gobyerno eh sobra sobra ang kinikita kung saan saan tapos pamilya nila nagpapasarap at nakatira sa ibang bansa………..pag uwi english speaking na saan ka pa pinoy…………….nakakatawa ang gobyerno ni pinoy……….tapos yong mga taga pag asa…….inaapi…………..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG4T5UNZ3P7SCHSRNJ7PF5JZMM Jimmy

      Panahon pa ni gloria arrovo yang sahod nila sa pagasa…! Tapos sisisihin mo si PNoy ??
      Bata ka siguro ni mike arroyo…. at ni tiglao…?

      • Milesaway

        Bro. magbasa kang mabuti para hindi halatang tuta ka ni Pnoy.. heto ang nakasulat.. “The budget department suspended the benefits of the weathermen five months ago” 

  • cantonese

    Bakit kaya ang gobyerno natin ay meron tinitignan at may tinititigan. Utos man ng presidente ay hindi ginagawa ng mga cabineteng nag noynoying. Ang mga empleyado ng gobyerno ay dapat tulungan dahil sila ang gumagawa ng tulong sa mamayan(public service). Kulang na ang pasuweldo at mga extra gastos ng pamasahe , pagkain, telephone ay sa bulsa pa nila galing.

    Ang pag papabaya at pag kukulang sa mga empleyado ay umpisa ng pag i-isip na gumawa ng hindi wasto tuland ng nangyayari sa mga pulis at politicians pag delihensiya.

  • charlie_oscar

    Pasabulong goes to NBI and AFP….then PNP…down the line…DOJ…DFA…

  • joerizal

    Hoy Gising!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGHO2UZFTBNNSK3GS5ADAV3NK4 Rey Bacalso

    Hindi lang naman taga PAGASA ang naghihirap, pati taga PHIVOLCS tinanggalan ng allowance ni ABAD.Yong mga taga PHIVOLCS di na rin makapasok kasi wala ng pera.Mas mataas pa nga ang mga basic salary ng mga taga PAGASA kaysa taga PHIVOLCS.Mas hazardous pa ang trabaho ng mga taga PHIVOLCS  kaysa taga PAGASA.Maging fair naman ang government, kung bibigyan ang taga PAGASA, bigyan DIN ang taga PHIVOLCS kasi mas kawawa sila, wala lang naglalakas loob magsalita sa kanila…

    • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

      Di naman ata dapat pinagbabangga yun.. 

  • MULEN

    Mas hazardous ang trabaho ng mga taga-DENR kung tutuusin dahil marami ang namamatay diyan in the line of duty pero ni minsan ay hindi nakatanggap ang mga empleyado dyan ng hazard pay.  And they’re not complaining about it, or staging a protest because of some unpaid allowances. Araw-araw pupunta iyan sa trabaho – sa kagubatan man o sa bundok – at hindi sapat na dahilan na komo kulang ang take home pay mo kaya aabsent ka na lang palagi. 

  • MULEN

    At bakit tatanggap ng hazard pay ang mga taga-PAGASA? Kung umasta sila, para bang storm chaser ang trabaho when in fact they are just weather forecasters whose jobs are confined in the offices. Kaya nga ang job-related death na na-mention dito e iyong namatay dahil sa stroke because of diabetes. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GUCXKRFXOLULEYTCJBIAF4TL7M Lil Axe Murderer

       Source?

      • MULEN

        Just read again the article and there you can find the name of Alex San Pedro. 

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        ang sinasabi doon ay namatay siya sa sakit kasi walang pambili ng gamot. Ganun sila kahirap. Try mo pumasok sa trabaho sa gitna ng bago at baha tsaka mo sabihing di yun hazardous

    • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

       try doing the reporting yourself and come back to this forum…

    • arthur1401

      Try to report and do your job in the middle of a 220km/hr storm and feel what hazard means.

      • Karabkatab

        At 220 km/hr typhoon, no one is listening to the radio.  An no radio is broadcasting because their transmitters and repeaters are down.

      • arthur1401

        Bro, that figure is just a figurative speech, if you know what I mean.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y3KV3L3VRG2UK6OJRCCHVWZEPY AiroD

    Dapat naman kasi ang mga nasa job hazards (isama na rin dito ang mga basurero’t basurera at mga city sweepers) ay nabibigyan ng tamang umento at incentives sa sahod. Obviously, nakakawalang-gana magtrabaho pag ganyan palagi ang sistema ng pasahod sa Pinas kaya maraming kababayan natin ang nagsisilikas at sa ibang bansa nakikipagsapalaran.

    • niceguy60

      Totoo ka. Kulang na lang sipsipin ang dugo mo sa trabaho. Saksakan ng babarat ng mga employer gobyerno man o pribado.

  • http://twitter.com/whipnsaddle Bastonero

    Dapat si Pnoy at Abad na lang ang mag balita ng lagay ng panahon, they should try the same…ano ha?.

  • dequis

    ang govierno rin pala ang pasimuno ng pambabarat ng sweldo ng mga empleyado.

    • billy gunner

      true. the president only cares for the businessmen.

  • gray_c

    I am sorry but I concur with this.

    As an Outsider I support two single parent families with with high school and university honor students at a cost of P20,000 per week.

    That is more than your President’s official salary I think?

    There is no easy solution other than to persevere I suspect.  It will take many presidencies to bring the Philippines into the top league of nations.

    I empathize with those of you who have remarkably more intelligence than myself, but who struggle to educate those who will one day be in charge – our children!  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RY3IHL767XHOFXGJVYRLX2XC6Y Eric

    I’m earning  70K plus benefits in an australian BPO.

  • wehd1nga

    Iipat na Iang kay0 sa MWSS, driver P36K ang sweId0, may car pIan, Iiving aII0wance, gr0cery aII0wance, breathing aII0wance, CR aII0wance AT 32 m0nths b0nus, 0ha saan kapa!

    • Magsasaka

       pwede ba kami dyan hehehe

    • billy gunner

       pa apply naman o! lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RY3IHL767XHOFXGJVYRLX2XC6Y Eric

    Just this morning I heard from a radio interview, an MWSS  ordinary driver is earning 97K a month until 2010.

  • arthur1401

    Pnoy slaps the faces of officials one hour after hearing the valid complaints of the PAG_ASA people. After hearing the news, Pnoy went and assured those complaining employees that he will do something about their predicament.
    Is it nececessary for the president of the this nation to personally assure those employees of the benefits due them if those officials directly involved in PAGASA affairs are doing their jobs of making sure that their people are receiving what is due them? 
    This is the first time that a president of the republic gave an immediate and favorable response to a valid complaint, 1 hour after the complaint is aired. 

    • allandel

      what do i need alter egos for if i will do the job myself? screw these lazy cabinet people!

  • arrovo

    not just pagasa, how about pagcor rank and file non gaming employees other people think that basic pay here is ok? think again.

  • Karabkatab

    Bakit kaya ang daming forecasters ang pag-asa? Akala ko ba hi-tech na sila at hindi na mano mano ang plotting ng forecast. At saka yung take home pay na 12,000 pesos argument ni Mr. Lois hindi valid yun.  In the first place magkano ang gross nya?  Kung ikaw ay may trabaho ngunit ikaw ay walang pamasahe papuntang trabaho, aba panahon na para ayusin ng emplyado ang diskarte nya sa pitaka.  Baka naman mas marami ang palabas sa papasok.  Sa mundong ito wala namang sapat na pera, palagi kulang, kaya nga pinag aaralan ang subject na resource management.

    • http://twitter.com/KalikasanParty Kalikasan Partylist

      Kulang po sa forecasters ang PAGASA

      • allandel

        na-forecast ba nila na kukulangin sila? why not budget the right number of people? yung mga lumalabas sa tv na forecaster, may mga honorarium yun, di ba? kung wala, somebody is lying.

      • Karabkatab

        Hahaha. Maybe sinadya nila na hindi e fill up ang vacant positions, para maka generate ng savings para pag hati hatian as benefits.  Sinabi sa news na walang tiyak na source of funding ang kanilang Magna Carta kaya savings ang pinagkukunan ng benefits. Talaga ba meron honorarium ang mga spokesperson ng pagasa sa mga TV? Wow, ganun na ba ang kalakaran sa Pinas? Pero, meron sila mga spokesperson hindi maka explain ng malinaw sa public, kaya nakaka bwisit minsan.

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        May budget taon taon pero kulang ang binibigay ng DBM. san pa ba kukunin ang sweldo? diba dun lang naman??

      • Karabkatab

        Ang budget sa sweldo ay iba sa budget ng benefits or perks.  Ang sabi sa balita ang perks or benefits ng mga taga pag asa ay hindi funded sa kanilang GAA kaya savings ng agency ang kanilang pinag kukunan ng perks.  Kung ito ay kasama sa taonang budget na ahensya ay tiyak hindi ito maaring tanggalin ng DBM.

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        yung nga e.. di sinama ng DBM kaya nagkaproblema

      • Karabkatab

        Hindi DBM ang nag a approve ng budget Sir.  Ang kongresso ang nag a aprove ng budget base na rin sa proposal ng agency.

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        Alam naman po ng DOST dati pa na kulang sila sa tao. Sabi nga kagabi sa balita, mas gusto pa ng mga nagiging weather forecaster ang mangibang bansa dahil napakababa ng sweldo dito. Di tulad sa ibang bansa na 5 times ang sweldo nila kumpara dito. Di ko lang alam kung may honorarium sila pero sige granting mayroon, paano ang mga ibang forecaster?

      • Karabkatab

        Ilan po ba ang sapat na bilang ng forecasters ng Pag-Asa considering na karamihan sa data interpretation nila ngayun ay systems generated?  Baka naman mas kailangan nila ang personnel sa maintenance, IT and engineering to keep their machines running at tip top condition, 24/7.  Tama ka maaring kulang doon sa mga radar stations nila sa mga probinsya like catanduanes, samar, surigao, etc. Pero mas marami ata ang naka estasyon dyan sa MM.  Centralized pa ba ang forecasting sa Pinas.  That is why dito sa aming lugar na bagyohin, secondary source na lang ang pag-asa sa aming mga mamayan.  May mga international sites, na mas tugma ang forecast compared to pag-asa.  

      • http://twitter.com/KalikasanParty Kalikasan Partylist

        Ang pag weweather forecast po ay hindi simpleng bagay. Kailangan nito ng technical expertise. Kahit pa may high tech kang mga gamit, kung di naman ito mattranslate ng maayos ay balewala din.

      • Karabkatab

        Sorry Brod pero hindi ako kumbinsido sa argumento mo.  Ang forecast ay producto lamang ng data na na e feed mo sa equation.  Sa madaling salita lahat ng factors na quatifiable ay dapat ma establish mo para ma generate ang forecast na malapit sa katotohanan.  Karamihan dito ay mechanical or routine sapagkat ito ay statistical forecast lamang.  Taon 2006, ako ay biktima nang maling forecast ng pag-asa dahil ang sabi nila hindi tatama ang eye ng bagyo sa aming coordinates.  Hayon lahat ng aanihin ko sa bukid lumubog sa tubig. Kung akoy sumunod sa forecast ng Japan at US, sana hindi nauwi sa wala ang aking pananim.  Pakiayos po ng iyong argumento, at na atasan ka pa namang party list ng Kalikasan? Totoo ba ang partylist mo?  Sino naman ang inyong mga nasasakupan at ipinaglalaban? Nag tatanong lang po isang simpleng mamamayan.

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        Hello po! Member po ako ng Kalikasan at ang nirerepresent nya ay ang mga biktima ng mga disaster, mga biktima ng pagmimina, etc. kaya nga po sila pumapalya e dahil di naman up to date ang mga instrumento nila. Sa ngayon po ay nasa 800 lang ang empleyado ng pagasa sa buong bansa. Lubhang kulang po ito dahil di naman po basta basta ang weather forecasting. Sa katunayan, mas matindi ang pangangailangan sa kanila ngayon dahil sa climate change. Kaya nga nagkakamali din sila minsan e. kulang sa tao at sa gamit. alam niyo ho, kahit pa statistical forecasting lamang ito, Kailangan pain ng expertise nga na maitranslate ito into hard data. Simple lang din naman po yung pinaglalaban ng mga PAGASA employees eh. Ibigay ang dapat na sa kanila. Dahil they deserve it

      • Karabkatab

        Salamat po sa paliwanag mo. Kung kayo po ay member ng kongreso bakit hindi po ninyo isama sa taonang budget ng pagasa ang kanilang mga perks para hindi na sila umaasa pa sa savings ng agency nila? Pwede po ba yun para naman may kabulohan ang kanilang Magna Carta? At saka kung kayo ay tagapagtanggol ng mga victima ng disaster pwede po pala ako dumulog sa inyo dahil sa dinanas kong perwesyo sa bakid dahilan sa mali maling advisory ng pagasa?  Ano po pala ang ibig sabihin nyo ng “hard data”.  Meron po ba namang “soft data” na tinatawag.  Baka po nalilito kayo sa terminong data at analysis? Ang pagkaka alam ko po ang data ay materiales para magkaroon ka ng findings or analysis.  Hindi na po kailangan ng expert na e translate ang analysis sa “hard data” na iyong tinutukoy.

      • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

        di pa po kami member ng kongreso. bagong tatag na PL palang po kami.yung hard data, eto na yung translation ng mga satellite images, yung forecasting ng rainfall, kung anong kalseng weather disturbance ang mararanasan, saan ito tatama o dadaan, etc.

    • tenderfender

      san ka nadadamihan? sa forecasters per se or dun sa 900 employees?

      di lng forecasters ang empleyado ng pag-asa uy! meron pang mga clerical, admin services, my HR division atbp. idagdag mo pa ung mga staff na nakadeploy sa pag-asa stations sa iba’t ibang provinces!

      do your math uy!

      “Kung ikaw ay may trabaho ngunit ikaw ay walang pamasahe papuntang trabaho, aba panahon na para ayusin ng emplyado ang diskarte nya sa pitaka.” – Easier said than done lalo pag my pinapaaral ka at pinapalamon na pamilya tapos 12k lang ang take home pay mo.

      sa kaso ni mr. lois, ang pamasahe ng bus mula qc hanggang balagtas, bulacan ay 50 pesos one way..(bus pa lng yan) – 22days x 100 pesos = 2200 pesos/month na! may kuryente, tubig at pinapalamon/pinapaaral ka pa.

      do your math again sir!

      tska pakirelate nga ang success story mo sa pagbabudget ng pera. bka may mapulot kami…

      • Karabkatab

        May kaunting alam naman ako sa Math sir. Ito ang aking sinusundang formula or equation:  EXPENSES = INCOME minus SAVINGS.  Try it, hindi ka mag sisisi.  Kapitbahay ko driver lamang at ang asawa walang empleyo.  4 ang anak, lahat tapos ng curso, may sariling bahay dahil sa tamang pag aalaga ng pera nya.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVS4MKYAHNFS6TCFBFGRZNIIGQ Nueva

         malaki kaya kita ng driver sweet lover pa hehehe pag marunong ang driver mas malaki ang kita nya sa minimun wage earners

      • Karabkatab

        Ha ha ha.. hindi sya driver ng bus o truck bro.  Isang ordinary driver sa pamahalaan at talagang maliit lang ang sahod.  Kaso ma diskarte lang.  Kapag weekends namamasada ng jeep hanggan sa naka punda ng tricycle at sari sari store.

      • tenderfender

        so do you suggest na si mr. loiz ay magpasada rin tuwing weekends? kung tutuusin wala naman dapat silang problema, bsta ndi hinarang ng mga YELLOW IDOLS ung budget para sa allowance ng pag-asa employees

      • Karabkatab

        Hindi ko sinasabi mag pasada rin si mr. loiz ng jeep tuwing weekends kasi baka hindi naman sya marunong mag drive. Kung marunong naman sya mag drive, baka ang driver’s license nya ay Restriction 1 lang.

      • tenderfender

        wag mo gamitin ang istorya ng kapitbahay mo…. sarili mong success story. galing mong magpreach eh like you know better than a govt employee

      • Karabkatab

        Bakit naman hindi ko gagamitin ang experience ng kapitbahay ko? Idol ko nga yun kaya proud ako sa kanya. Ayaw ko rin banggitin ang estorya ng buhay ko kasi lalabas nag bubuhat ako ng sariling kong upuan.  Ako’y simpleng tao lamang, may konting gulayan at manokan (range chicken). Hindi ako nag mamagaling. Amenado ako marami alam kayong mga government employees kasi karamihan sa inyo may MBA may PHD at kung ano ano pa na certificate of excellence.  What about the formula i cited? EXPENSES=INCOME minus SAVINGS) Meron ka bang argumento doon? Mali ba? Ang hirap sa iyo bro/sis hindi angkop ang handle name mo with your character. Tender something pero umiinit kaagad ang tumbong mo.  Keep your cool, otherwise, you will see the your world murky.

      • tenderfender

        preachy crap. dalangin ko na limpak limpak ang salapi mo dahil sa iyong manukan at gulayan (pati na rin sa binaha mong palayan dhil sa maling weather forecast) at malamang naisasabuhay mo ang iyong FORMULA kaya MILYONARYO ka na.

        pasok ka sa gobyerno for a change. pag UBRA pa yang FORMULA mo sa 12k na sahod at mging SUCCESS STORY ka, balik ka sa akin at baka bigyan pa kita ng dagdag na pera bilang bonus dhil sa proven mong formula :-D

      • Karabkatab

        Ha ha ha… There you go again.  If you are fumbling for words for the sake of healthy argument, better not loose your steam.  Hindi ako bro/sis pu pwede sa government mamasukan  kasi hindi ako qualified.  Wala akong CS eligibility. Better strum your Fender guitar (kung fender nga ang ibig sabihin ng handle name mo) baka makapag compose ka pa ng winning tune mo.  Swerte mo naman Fender ang guitar mo, akin made in Cebu lang. Pero ok lang ang sound, angkop naman dito sa bukid. Salamat na  lang sa promise mong bunos para sa akin.  Meantime, iabot mo na lang muna ang pera dyan sa mga nangangailangan.  

      • tenderfender

        ayaw mo pumasok ng government? therefore wag kang magmagaling! 

        ndi ka tga-gobyerno at di ka sumusweldo ng 12k kaya di mo pa napapatunayan kung epektib yang formula mo. (ang ISSUE dito ay kung EPEKTIB ba yang FORMULA mo — kung makapagsalita ka, kala mo naman napakadali gawin — kaya nga hinahanapan ka ng sariling pruweba eh)

        in the meantime, jan ka na lng sa mga patola at manukan mo muna

      • Karabkatab

        If you will care to read my previous post, hindi ako pwede mamasukan sa gobyerno kahit gustuhin ko man kasi wala akong qualification being non holder of eligibility from the Civil Service.  Hindi ko po naman ina amin na mas magaling ako sa inyong mga taong gobyerno. And I repeat, Opo kayo ay magagaling.   BTW, the formula I mentioned is not mine.  Napulot ko lang yan sa mga seminars about personal finance.  Colayco foundation nag tuturo nyan if you are in Manila.  Effective talaga sya compared to the traditional formula na SAVINGS= INCOME minus EXPENSES. Thanks again for your advise na dito na lang ako sa patolahan at manokan.  Ito ang aking hanapbuhay at enjoy naman ako sa bukid.  FYI, hindi pu pwde ang patola sa panahon ng tag ulan.  Bakit? hindi nabubuo ang fruit nya gawa ng hagupit ng ulan kapag ito ay nasa flowering stage pa lamang. Peace and always strum that Fender of yours.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    Pero pag military and police, bakit madali lang magbigay ng favor and benefits, but for lowly employees like those in Pag-asa maraming dahilan bago ibigay. Sa Malacanang, bako halos lahat ng employees malaki ang sweldo tapos may mga laptop pa. Ituwid ito dahil parang lihis sa tuwid na daan ang treatment sa mga Pag-asa employees.

  • Vin

    give what is due to the men and women of PAGASA. let’s not be hypocrites and say that they should not complain because they are public servants.

    when push comes to shove, when you are not getting what you need to function, it is just normal to air grievances so that the person in authority will take notice.

    there is always a threshold of man’s patience…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BHMEX5BFO3MOXZ7K2MP6NNGSW4 dark

    asa pa ang mga meteorologists
    kung ang mga resident doctors nga ng jose reyes hospital sa tayuman tinanggalan ng hazard pay, meteoroligsts pa kaya

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Yung budget para sa benefits ng pag-asa employees, ginamit last may, para ipang brasa sa impeachment votes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    900!!! what do you need all 900 of them for?

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      Actually, I have no idea.

      Pero lets guess, whats the land area of the Philippines, including areas around it (for weather predictability). Having people assigned regionally, all over the country, to gather base information.

      Then identify specific areas which would need weather info every now and then, like all the cities that are dependent on weather prediction to for crops, school and work advisories, etc.

      Then divide it into 8 hour shifts a day, doing monitoring.

      On the PAGASA side, minus admin, accounting, non-technical work… that leaves how many for weather gathering and analysis… let me see…

      I was right, see my first sentence.

  • nice_boy

    Sa gobiyerno, pag di kana makatiis, umalis ka.  Pag di ka makaalis, magtiis ka.  Para kay Nilo Tayag, blessing in disguise ang pagkatanggal sa kanya.

    • I_kabod

       madali sabihin umalis, brad. pero para sa pamilyadong tao, mahihirapan na yan humanap ng ibang trabaho.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGHO2UZFTBNNSK3GS5ADAV3NK4 Rey Bacalso

    Palagi nalang PAGASA  ang binibigyan pansin.PHIVOLCS magpaputok nga kayo ng isang bulkan para pansinin kayo ni pinoy

    • Karabkatab

      Hahaha… wala kasing forecaster ang Philvocs Brod kaya hindi sila kasing sikat ng pagasa.

      • I_kabod

         at bihira ang lindol.

      • billy gunner

        di nga. lumilindol katabi kong higaan gabi-gabi!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGHO2UZFTBNNSK3GS5ADAV3NK4 Rey Bacalso

      sana lumindol ng intensity 8 sa metro manila para magising si abad sa mga ginawa nyang pagtanggal ng mga benefits ng mga taga PHIVOLCS at Pagasa..

  • allandel

    what’s the hazard pay for? kung lumalabas ng office to do field work, that’s just right. kung hindi naman, like nakatingin lang lagi sa satellite picture, ano ang hazard dun? ah, maybe getting sterile for being exposed to radiation.

    mr butch abad, please release the pay. saka na yung accounting. you can do the accounting after. as if makakatakbo ang mga empleyado kung sobra ang maibigay sa kanila.

    • Belinda Formanes

      Napanood po sana nyo ang episode kagabi ng Reporter’s Notebook.   Nakita nyo sana ang hirap at pagiging delikado ng trabaho ng PAGASA weather observers laluna sa field.  Kada oras, binabasa nila ang dating ng ulan sa kanilang weather station sa mga probinsya, laluna kung may bagyo.  Ang trabaho nila ay walang oras, sing tagal ng bagyo, walang reliever dahil sa nag-alisan na ang maraming empleyado sa kababaan ng sahod.  nakakahabag din ang kanilang kahirapan.  sila ay mga scientist pero nakakainsulto ang liit ng sahod nila at pinagkakait pa ang mga benepisyo.  Dapat askyunan agad ang kanilang karaingan.  SIla ay gumgagampan ng mahalagang tungkulin sa bayan. 

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      “like nakatingin lang lagi sa satellite picture, ano ang hazard dun?”

      haka haka at opinion lang po.

      if we are going to base such job (nakatinging lang sa sat pictures) as admin or clerical work, then it would follow that, on hazardous days where the government advises government employees not to report for work, then said employees can heed the call, and not come to work.

      But if we will require them to come to work, in hazardous circumstances, like that of emergency, relief and rescue employees, then I would suggest hazard pay is required.

      Maybe what we can argue would be that hazard pay be on a ‘case to case’ basis, or rather only applicable on warranted days, if you want to argue reason.

      I believe that downgrading the importance of weather predictions, especially during hazardous operations would impede its effectiveness. We risk the possibility of finding more rescuers, to rescue earlier rescuers, rescuing other people.

  • Magsasaka

    yong mga consultant at opisyal sa MWSS meeting ng meeting at kada meeting may bayad na 8500 pero ang mga taga PAGASA tinitipid ng gobyerno, anak ng putik, yan talaga ang mangyayari kapag pamilya ni abad ang may hawak ng finances ng pinas.

  • PH2011

    CHARGE it to MWSS government officials per diems.

    It was reported by PDI few days ago that MWSS officials did not follow the new Law in GOCC minimizing the use of government official/personnel allowances.

    Well, the report was gone. It’s a pity to PAGASA government employees.

  • Tonypogi

    Noong una sabi ng PAGASA, ang Low Pressure Area northeast of Luzon will not touch land. Makaraan ang isang araw, narinig kong sinabi nila na dadaplisan lang nito ang Calayan Island na nasa pinakadulo ng Batanes. Tapos kahapon naging Tropical Storm Helen na ito at nagbabala na ito na dadaan sa Cagayan at Isabela. Ngayong umaga, clear skies ang report sa Isabela.  Ano nga ba ang tutoo? Noong 1987, napadaan ako sa FAA Central Flow Control Facility sa Washington DC. Sabi nila, ang mga weather forecaster na naka-assign sa kanila, kailangang mai-predict WITHIN 5 MINUTES kung kailan darating o aalis ang isang thunderstorm sa isang major airport sa US. Kung hindi, mapapalipat ang forecaster sa Alaska.  Sa ngayon, mayroon na tayong computer, internet, radar weather maps, weather satellite feed. bukod pa sa Aircraft Reports galing sa US Navy na humahabol at pumapasok sa mga bagyo, bakit malaki pa rin ang margin of error ng mga forecast natin?  Kung pamasahe ang problema, bakit hindi na lang nila aminin na hindi sila nabababagay sa trabahong ito? Lumipat na lang sila sa Call Center, mas malaki pa siguro ang kita doon. O maigi pa, i-monitor na lang nila sa internet ang forecast ng Japan at US sa internet at iyon ang sabihin nila sa TV at Radyo. Napuna kong mas accurate ang mga ito.

    • Karabkatab

      Kahit pa man noon ang tawag sa pagasa doon sa aming bayan ay “weather or not”.

    • http://twitter.com/ronaldgustilo ronaldgustilo

      Mas accurate po talaga sila kasi mas advanced ang instruments nila. Kaya nga po kailangang iupgrade na ang mga instrumento ng pagasa. at ibigay ang dapat para sa kanila.

  • I_kabod

    sa tinatagal tagal, P12k lang sahod nya? wala bang annual increase ang PAGASA? wala na nga talagang pag asa dun kung ganun/

    • Karabkatab

      Meron naman ata Brod increase ang kawani ng pamahalaan. Ang 12k na sinabi sa news ay net take home pay.  Kaltas na contributions at loans.

      • I_kabod

        i see. baka deducted na yun mga loans nya dun.

  • pipsirho

     BILLIONS OF PESOS for PORK BARREL; NO FUNDS for LOWLY PAGASA FORECASTERS!!! What a distorted value system! A forecaster cannot go to work BECAUSE HE HAS NO FARE MONEY. A forecaster DIES BECAUSE HE CANNOT BUY MAINTENANCE MEDICINE. Yet congressmen and senators are WALLOWING IN PORK!!!

    This is a government gone to the PIGS (Politicians Insensitively Gorging Slop)

  • Littlefox131

    Apply na lang kayo sa iba

  • Mananandata69

    Ano ba yan? Benefits are suspended in  a most important gov’t agency. Kasalanan yan ni Abad.
    He is controlling the expenses just to make it appear that this gov’t is wise in disbursing people money. Wrong accounting method.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    akala ko ba pinagyabang ni aquino last year ung salary standardization law…tsk tsk tsk…un pala, wala naman…

    napaka noynoying talaga ng presidenteng ito…

    PINAG HAMBOG PA NA KAYANG KAYA NIYANG MAGPAUTANG SA IBANG BANSA….

    NGAUN PALA ANG MGA KAWANI NG GOBYERNO AY NAMUMULUBI…

    KAPAL NG MUKHA MO TALAGA PENOY!!!KAAAAPPPAAAALLLL!!!!!

  • Pinoytagabantay

    Ohhhhh my goshhhh!!!! Is it true??? Kaya pla minsan nagkanda windang windang ang pag report ng PAG-ASA.., cguro sa gutom…,

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    MABUTI PA SI RISA HONTIVEROS MAY FREE RIDE SA PNGANAGMPANYA NIYA SA PANAHON NG [PAGBAHA…

    pero itong mga forecasters na kailangan na kailngan sa ganitong sitwasyon, walang pera sa pamasahe

    makonsinyensiya ka naman RISA HONTIVEROS…..SOBRANG KAPAL NG PAGMUMUKHA MO!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

    From Percy Reyes, worth re-posting:  ” BILLIONS OF PESOS for PORK BARREL; NO FUNDS for LOWLY PAGASA FORECASTERS!!! “ 

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    MR PRESIDENT….GANITO BA ANG DAAN MATUWID?????

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    “First, what’s fair?” Mr. Aquino said in a talk with reporters after his meeting with the weathermen. “It’s fair when the added benefit really goes to those on hazardous assignment. Those not on hazardous duty should not be entitled to it.”

    ———————-

    what is fair, mr president???

    is it fair that RISA HONTIVEROS had a FREE RIDE in a government vehicle and HELICOPTER sa kanyang pangngampanya sa mga nasalanta ng baha…HABANG ITONG MGA EMPLEYADO WALANG MAKUHANG PAMASAHE SA PAGPASOK SA TRABAHO…

    IS IT FAIR????IS IT FAIR????YOU A$$HOLE!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      dude hitler, if you use your brain like hitler, who chooses this profession, pnoy or this loser? you wanna get rich, then go to a profession that has a chance or be a criminal or lick the behind of Mike A, baka matilimsikan ka ng nakaw.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        basahin mo muna ang article…ikaw ang walang brain!!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        layo ng comment mo sa pinag post ko…dakilang tanga!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HUBZQT7WKGEBIJNEV6VVWRCZ34 Mr

    This is really sad! Hope you guys have seen Pagasa/DOST’s Project NOAH. It’s really good (though needs further enhancements), informative and effective. This is the fruit of honest government employees’ persistent efforts to provide honest service to the public. We should seriously cut the level of funds flowing into the pork barrels of politicians from Congress and channel of a piece of it to agencies like Pagasa, DOST.

    • tantra101

      Project NOAH has good intentions and is a good start… technically however the website is wanting…and i just hope that the data within is accurate and will remain accurate for years to come…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HQWDVIRLC3BVQTZYNWTWXWO77E Reynaldo

    MR PRESIDENT PAPAANO NGA MAKAKAPERFORM NG DUTY NA MAAYOS KUNG GUTOM, KULANG ANG KITA, 12,000 PESOS, PARA SA HIGHLY SKILLED AT SENSITIVE NA TRABAHO, EH MATAAS PA ANG SAHOD NG DOMESTIC HELPER NATIN SA HONGKONG, SINGAPORE, ITALY, TAIWAN ETC. WHAT IS FAIR? MR PRESIDENT ILANG BUWAN NG DI NATATANGGAP ANG MGA PERANG PARA SA KINILA TALAGA. BAKIT NAIRELEASE NA AT NAIBIGAY NA ANG MILYON MILYON PORK BARREL ALOCATIONS PARA SA MGA CONGRESSMEN AT IBA PA SAMANTALANG ANG BARYA BARYANG SAHOD NG WEATHERMEN AY WALA PA. SUGGEST WEATHERMEN QUIT EN MASSE,FIND JOBS ABROAD.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      so, go to hongkong or run as congresswoman, pinilit ka ba

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tanga mo!!!ganyang talaga ang mga yellow   mga ELITISTA!!!INSENSITIVE!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

        namu rin

      • PikonNaKami

        I can’t imagine why someone can hate so much like you.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

      hindi yan highly skilled na trabaho. maybe you need PHDs to run and manage the programs, but ht edaily monitoring and reporting, ministerial job lang yan. pero kailangan pa rin i-raise ang basi cnila to be competitive with teachers and soldiers. but you don;t need 900 heads to run this agency. maybe even just less than 100. 900, ano yan, pabrika?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

      May kilala akong teacher 3 buwan na walang sahud. Nakakawa, binaha pa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    “My take-home pay is P12,000. For someone who has kids studying in college and high school, that is hardly enough,”

    di mag Pulis ka, o kaya sa custom, o kaya general sa army, o kaya hueteng lord, o dh sa syria/lebanon, kaya kabit ni Mike A. in nother words, ‘tong pinili mong trabaho, mag tiis ka.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      HINDI MO BA BINASA UNG BALITA????

      INALIS NI NOYNOYING MO ANG MGA BENEFITS NA MATAGAL NG NASA KANILA!!!NAGREREKLAMO SILA KASI INALIS…HINDI UNG MERON LANG SILA 12K AS TAKE HOME…

      TANGA TANGA MO!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

        binasa mo ba talaga? wala naman inalis si noy noy ah.. tsk tsk ibang balita ata binasa mo e, yung sinulat ni gma.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        The budget department suspended the benefits of the weathermen five months ago. In July, Science Secretary Montejo promised that the benefits would be restored by August.

        ——

        YAN, COPY PASTE YAN….KUNG HINDI KA MARUNONG UMINTINDI NG ENGLISH, I TAGALOG KO

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

        suspended. hindi discontinued.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

        Really? That’s your defense?

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        sabihin mo yan sa amo mong noynoying kung pwede i suspend din ang kanyang mga allowances and benefits…pati na rin ang prok niya…go!!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        WAG KA NAMAN PAHALATA NA TANGA KA

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGHO2UZFTBNNSK3GS5ADAV3NK4 Rey Bacalso

        anong wala, halos lahat ng govt employee inalisan ng mga benefits ni pinoy at abad.. lahatb ng employees ng dost, doh at sa denr tinanggal ang mga benefits…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGHO2UZFTBNNSK3GS5ADAV3NK4 Rey Bacalso

        magtanong-tanong ka nicosan, call center agent ka yata ni carandang..

    • PikonNaKami

      God bless you George.

    • tantra101

       yun na! yan ang mentality natin ngayon…kung gustong magkapera…maging corrupt at sumama sa mga ka-kosang corrupt din…

      bawal pala humingi ng tamang compensation sa trabaho mo…mas maganda pala ang maging corrupt…

      SUSMARYOSEP PILIPINAS!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

         kasi ang magnakaw ng malaking pera sa gobyerno ay di nakukulong. meron na bang malaking isda ang nakulong? tanong mo mga arroyko, hanbalos, marcos, genuino, gracia, at si jocjoc bolate. nakulong ba sila, ayon enyoy nakurakot nilang pera. Isama mo na rin si Erap at si Sabit Singhot.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

       Mas maganda eh pulitiko mas malaking kita sa kurakotan.

    • popeyee

      What a comment..siguro isa ka sa mga corrupt na empleyado ng gobyerno…

  • NEILMCNALLY

    “The World’s Best Practice”..do more work with less people and take home less pay…AND,if you are owed pay…you can bloody well wait ’til we’ve divided out our share of that which you ain’t getting anymore..bugger off!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IPTZ7WGP6V57EOQ2YSJH5WBJTE yami

      it is really true, i’ve experienced that before..

  • NEILMCNALLY

    AND…..we expect you to feel really guilty for even mentioning your so-called problem…think of all those others less fortunate than you..A-G-A-I-N !!!

  • DaniloD2D

     I can assume that forecaster Jori Loiz
    is a hardworking government employee – and a good husband and father as well.  I can also understand that it is quite difficult
    for him to raise a family with his salary. 
    And I can sympathize further with Mr. Loiz and his colleagues in pressing for unpaid
    benefits if truly due them from the government. 
    Pero, sa akin, medyo naman yata OA for him to have said that he has been
    absent from work because “he has no money to pay for his bus
    fare.”  Then, the president of the employees association “warned” that the agency’s
    services would “deteriorate” if the members’ cash benefits remained suspended.  These remarks were made yesterday – accompanied by worn black armbands, raised closed fists and the display of
    big-sized tarpaulins – at the height of a storm heading to the north and
    another habagat threatening Metro Manila.  Obviously, the people at Pagasa felt it was the right opportunity to dramatize and get action on their demands.  Still, there must be a better time and way to do all these.          

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    ayan…nasa next shift na ang malacanang call center agents…

    sabay sabay pumasok….

    let me guess kung ano ang instruction ni carandang…

    1. damage control for the noynoying
    2. destroy Jori Loiz
    3. destroy the reputation of pagasa employees…

    for several hours ganitong mga tema ng msgs nila…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RY3IHL767XHOFXGJVYRLX2XC6Y Eric

    Malaki pa kita ni Madam Auring sa kanyang mga “forecast”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUE7BZXUJ7I5AFIBEPSIBONAHA Alfred A

    Akala ko marami na ang pera sa goberno kaya maka-afford nang magpahiram sa IMF???? HAMBOG lang pala…

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      ung pinag hambog niyang pera na pwede ipahiram sa IMF, kinuha sa mga bulsa ng mga kawani ng gobyerno, maraming benefits ang naalis sa kanila…it is a public knowledge sa lhat ng opisina ng gobyerno…ayaw lang magsalita…buti nalang nagkaroon ng lakas loob itong PAGASA employees sa sila ung isa sa mga kritikal agencies ng gobyerno…pero ung mga simpleng agencies, they wont do that, kasi hindi naman sila papakingan ng gobyerno, and baka magkaroon pa ng negative impression sa mga mamamayan…in the end KINAKAWAWA ANG MGA SIMPLENG EMPLEYADO PARA MAGING POGI SI NOYNOYING…KASAMA NA DIYAN UNG MGA OPISYAL NG GOBYERNO NA LALONG NAGMUMUKHANG MGA BUWAYA

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

    From Percy Reyes, worth re-posting:  ” BILLIONS OF PESOS for PORK BARREL; NO FUNDS for LOWLY PAGASA FORECASTERS!!! “ 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZYQ3ZKMZZXSK5B5HO3GQAERSJQ cookai m

      i hope our government officials really learn to put the funds where they are needed the most, have the heart to do the right thing, and depart from greed and selfishness 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

       Siyempre pamimigay ba naman ng mga Kingkoygressman at mga Senadoy mga pork barrel nila eh lumalangoy sila sa kapal ng cholesterol pag hawak na nila. Buti di sila inaatake sa puso o mastroke

    • popeyee

      Kasi kung sa mga weathermen nila ibibigay yong mga pork barrel nila, walang mapaglalagyan ng kanilang mga pangalan… 

  • KenKhoy

    why they suspend those allowances in the first place???????

    • popeyee

      Kasi dahil kay Gloria, nagkaroon ng allowance yong mga pobreng weathermen.. alam mo naman pag kay Gloria lahat pinapa-suspend ni penoy.. 

  • kilabot

    fetch the forecasters. why not utilize the trucks and copters noykapon and his $asslickers used to campaign during the flood? why not, mongoloids?

  • WeAry_Bat

    Ito pala ang ibig sabihin ng isang response sa akin noon.  The issue was higher pay vs. increasing the number of Pagasa people in the field.

    Pwede kaya mey FOI ng government employees na lahat ng mga salaries at ilan ang bilang per bracket, ma-display?  Pwede ma-isama yung kagaya ng Subic BMA?  O nakakahiya malantad ito?

  • lemon88

    pa refund ang mga benefits na kinurakot ng mga officials ng MWSS at ibigay sa mga taga PAGASA. Bakit hindi makasuhan ang mga yun. Mga miembro ba sila ng KKK mo Mr. President?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVS4MKYAHNFS6TCFBFGRZNIIGQ Nueva

    ang galing galing mo nga no imagine 12k lang sweldo mo ngayon naka pag papa college ka kahit nga public pag sahod mo 12k patay ka eh. and besides ur working in the govt bayani nga diba so wag umangal. punta ka sa private sure ako pag naka sixteen years ka cguro indi 12k ang sweldo mo hehehe magkano ba sweldo ng utility sa gsis sss customs bsp malamang mas mataas pa sa 12k lipat ka na lang utility request ka transfer lol

    • sanjuan683

      hehehehehe puede pa rin makapag college anong malay mo baon na baon siya sa utang. Ganun talaga hahanap ka ng paraan para maiahon ang pamilya mo gagawa ka ng paraan. Ikaw kaya mo ba yun? o wala ka binatbat hehehehehehehehe

      • ApoLapullapu

        Wala pa ang RH (Rumaragasang Habagat) siguradong lubog na yan sa utang  Kaya na diabetes ang iba diyan sa PAGASA puro kanin (NFA Rice) na lang at bagoong ang kinakain.

    • julietearjerky

      Transfer to private and lose all skilled forecasters? Magaling, magaling. Saan na kaya hahantong ang Pilipinas nito?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BTPMHSQOAVKY5DO6I3VU4VZ5PQ Jude

    Republican ba si Presidente? 

    • popeyee

      No, Mongolian!!

      • julietearjerky

        The Mongolians deserve more respect than this. ;)

  • dodong1

    The Pagasa employees are also demanding the release of their longevity pay, subsistence and laundry allowances.
    LAUNDRY ALLOWANCES..for what???

    • sanjuan683

      Sa 16T na sahod ubos na ubos sa pambili ng tide, galit ka pa at nagtatanong ng “WHAT”? At pagagalitan pa ang mga taga PAG-ASA mag-apply na lang kayo sa Australia, kaya dodong1 lumangoy ka na lang pagbaha na. hehehehehehehehehehe isama mo si ABNOY mo presidente. heheheheheh

      • dodong1

        pamlaba TIDE?? sosyal ka..mag PERLA ka na lang…kaya pala nauubos yung pera nila..ha ha ha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/E5I7ZKIERTX53LGGVMSVMODHSA bentot

      bopol mo pre ! sa liit ng kita ng mga tao sa PAGASA nagagalit ka pa ? for what ? tanga mo ! teka Abnoy ikaw ba yan ? o baka ikaw naman si Abad ?

      • dodong1

        hindi ako galit bentot..tanong ko nga sa iyo, laundry allowance?? FOR WHAT??? kung sinabi mo pa pang pasahe baka ibigay ko pa…abnoy mercado…ha ha hah a

    • julietearjerky

      Dapat nga clothing allowance yan, pero downgraded na to laundry allowance, nagrereklamo ka pa.

      • dodong1

        kaya nga wala ng PAGASA dahil pati panlaba gusto pa ninyo gobyerno ang magbabayad….ha hah a ha ha ha

  • im_not_convinced

    Though more or bigger is not always better, it still holds true that : you get what you pay for.
    might as well get madam bola to forecast our weather.

    As a country deemed to be most prone to natural calamities, how appalling that such departments are not prioritized by our gov’t. budget.

    I suppose it is because waiting sheds and basketball courts have better signage opportunities for politicians. 

    • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

      bakit kc ayaw pa ipagbawal ang paglagay ng pangalan ng politician eh hindi naman sa kanila nanggaling ang pera

      • popeyee

        Walang member of congress ang gustong sumangayon sa proposal ni Sen. Miriam, dahil salungat sa kanilang personal interest..pero pag pork barrel ang pag usapan, baka ibinabalita pa lang approved na kaagad..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4C2SFYIH52Y2KR7QPZPHJO2XQQ sl1

    You people are luckier than others including me. Fight for what is fair but don’t blakmail the gov’t or you will loose. I am glad the president intervened to look after their welfare so that it can be acted fast just like the weather changes.

    • ApoLapullapu

      It was not blackmail.  It was telling the truth.

  • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

    as long as red tape is eradicated, i’m all to doubling the salary of government employees! they deserve it. basta wag lng tlga patamad tamad at pakickback kickback. lalo na yang mga tao sa lahat ng city hall

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

    I was reading some of the comments here. O my God. Please respect the scientists. Give them what is due. Understanding Weather takes years. Its not just ministerial. That’s why you need a PHD. Advances in science can only be possible if the government supports these people. The reason why we never have scientific breakthroughs whether in health, engineering and yes, weather forecasting and easy detection is primary because we do not support these scientists. Business will only make you rich but will not prolong your life. Advances in science does. And im not just talking about longevity here but survival. Better weather detection enables our species to survive. We ought to give these people what is due. Laundry allowance? Yes, they need it. In the US libre lahat because the are contributing to THE ADVANCEMENT OF SOCIETY. More than what any of us can contribute in our lifetime. Give them what is due.

    • ApoLapullapu

      “Weather-weather” is easier to understand that weather.  And “weather-weather” is what the administration is good at.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

    nakasulat na yan sa batas. Bawal ang maglagay ng pangalan ng politiko sa waiting sheds etc. Si Miriam Santiago nagpanukala nyan. Pero alam mo naman sa Pilipinas.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

    Pnoy just gave back some of the perks of PAG ASA employees c/o Abigael Valte twitter account. Thank you Pnoy. This will help alot.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

    Time fro brain drain kung hindi masweldohan ng maayos mga PAGASA employees. Pag nagkamali sila tanggal kaagad sa pwesto. Kaya naman sila pumapalya sa forecasting kasi yung krystal ball ni madam auring lang yata ang gamit nila at mga kinakalawang at obsolete na mga equipment. Buti pa nong may US base nakakaasa sila sa mga Kano.

  • santosboi

    imagine 16 yrs in service 12k ang take home pay? better talk on pag-asa’s basic pay not on their allowances sakit sa mata eh. laundry allowance? hazard pay sa nasa opisina? teka baka naman sang katutak ang kaltas nun nainterview. better check. then un diabetic patient died on stroke?  why do the office let him work at night shift? is this issue should be blame to the gov’t? kasi walang pambili ng gamot? then this issue is medical benefits related problem. walang kinalaman ang laundry allowance dyan kasi para sa palaba un eh. hay nako.. laundry allowance.. meron pala nun. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZYQ3ZKMZZXSK5B5HO3GQAERSJQ cookai m

    talaga? sa Rizal ang dami nyan, dami naming nakikitang waiting shed pati mga covered basketball courts na me pangalang ng Gov. (Ynares)

  • lostRunes

    President Noynoy Aquino has fired PAG ASA ‘s chief Nilo in 2010. 
    In sacking the weather bureau chief, Aquino said, “He should have taken
    seriously the fact that they were way off the mark!”

    Tapos nung Sendong nagpa party siya. As your boss, dati pa namin gusto i-fire ka! You should have taken it more seriously!

    Ngayon, tatanggalin mo mga benepisyo ng mga scientist na nasa Magna Carta Act for scientists. Kapal ng mukha mo Noynoy!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UQS7B3VREY2WSEZEYZT7T6RMVY Jorgegabriel

    Sad,

  • execute

    grabeh nmn ng sahod n yan!..16 years n 16k p din?wawa nmn…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDB2CW643AV6DCQEWFJF6JK7BY Renski1970

      malaki pa nga iyan eh.. tanong ka mo na sa iba.. may mas mababa pa diyan.

    • popeyee

      12k lang. Minus tax, gsis, philhealth, pag-ibig…6k na lang matitira…so sad..

    • dell reyes

      Maganda pa rin sahod nila..kita mo naman magtrabaho ang mga nasa gobyerno alas dos palang wala na sa pwesto iba makikita mo sa sabungan nakaka beerhouse pa saan ka pa..Lunes lang mga yan nagfull day dahil sa flag ceremony at sayang nakauniporme lahat masyadong halata pero come flag retreat on friday security guard na lang nagbaba ng inang bandila natin.. nakita ko na kalakalan dyan.. dami pa nepotismo hirap maregular dahil kanya kanyang mga manok… kadalasan mga qualified personnel ang nakaposisyon dyan lalo na sa rank and file.. paano pa ang Public service??…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Between family and serving the country, may I ask what weights more? You know why priests put their heart and soul for serving God? Because their material needs are answered by their church. If Loiz et. al. are expected to serve their country wholeheartedly don’t leave them in pain what to do with their family in needs. That would certainly destroy whatever fervor and love to serve into wanting to get out for greener pastures.

    • Karabkatab

      In my case, my order of priority goes this way… GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY… If this is wrong, then this must have been superseded already.  Mea Culpa…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

        That’s very interesting line-up. But I would say it really depends on religion. If you happen to be on the side of Islamic Fundamentalist, that love for god means Jihad to all enemies of their religion. Of course, the mainstream have it that Jihad means war against oneself but we know that’s not how others thought about it. 

      • ApoLapullapu

        Please let us not divert the issue.  The weather forecasters are deprived of their benefits simply because someone in PAGASA failed to forecast that the last minute the weather deviated from forecast.  If the Budget Secretary can deviate from expenses  forecast why can’t nature deviate from the forecast of PAGASA?
        b

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Gusto ng anak ko maging astronomer. Pero sabi ko sa kanya, “anak, pag yan ang gusto mo isa lang ang babagsakan mo – PAG-ASA.”  Mag aaral ka ng kung ano anong mysteryo sa kalawakan tapos ang trabaho sa Pilipinas ay limitado lang sa weather forecasting.” Naku, mukha makikinig na ang anak ko pag nabasa niya eto. 

    • sanjuan683

      Abnoy talaga itong presidente ng pinas, underpaid na nga ang mga taga PAG-ASA pinapagalitan pa. Salbahe Abnoy, mga taga PAG-ASA mag-apply na lang kayo sa Australia laki pa sahod hayaan na lang si ABNOY ang mag-broadcast ng weather report.

      • dell reyes

        Mabuhay kayong MAKABAYAN sana tularan kayo ng mga anak nyo at magiging anak nyo pa mabuhay ang lahi nyo.. mabuhay ang Australia

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

      wag naman. Lam ko mahirap sa pinas but LOVE FOR SCIENCE is very important. That is the only way we as a species can survive. Your child can always go abroad where they RESPECT scientists and give them just compensation. Dapat nga etong mga scientists nalang bingyan ng pera kesa sa politicians, they can help us more in our understanding of ourselves and the Universe.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

        Kung yung talaga gusto ng anak ko ang maging astronomer mas maganda kung sa ibang bansa siya mag aaral. Yung paaralang may kakayahan at facilities. Kaso wala rin ako pang tustus sa gastusin. Kaya no choice dito na lang sa Pilipinas siya mag aaral yung related din sa science at magagamit sa private sectors na magbibigay ng malaking suweldo at benefit at hindi delayed. 

  • JosephNess

    some government agencies have their own employee services buses, why can’t PAGASA have their own service buses? this can somehow help them improve their services by coming to work on time, especially during bad weather…something to think about….

    • dell reyes

      OO nga bakit hindi na lang mag pool ng funds para sa Bus service ng mga Government agencies..nagkumpol kumpolan lang naman sila dyan sa QC Circle?… baka gusto lahat magkaroon ng service para may pampasyal na libre pa ng gasolina..tsk tsk..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/I2GKO5AMCMQ6UQ6AE3OITDBB24 Raize

        Ung iba po wala sa QC Circle.

  • Eric Jay

    next time si PNOY na mag foforecast. kapag hindi nagustuhan ng tao,, pwede rin sibakin… joke..

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      hindi forecast ang sinabi niya sa SONA..kagaya ng bumaba raw ang krimen sa pilipinas…un pala, ang stat ay last 2011, hindi ngaun…so, dapat sibakin na itong LIAR na pangulo

      • dell reyes

        Sibakin na yan si Pnoy.. paano naman yong majority na pumili sa kanya??…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        sila ung mga na uto na kailangan untugin ang ulo

  • phantomofhope

    umalis na kayo sa pagasa…bigyan ng leksyon si pnoy

    • dell reyes

      OO nga umalis na kayo dyan nang maraming madisgrasyang kababayan natin.. saan ba nag aral mga yan sa UP mga scholar ng DOST.. sabagay needed dollar din yan para sa economy natin..Alis na kayo dyan.. iresponsabling komentador.. ang laki ng halaga nila sa bayan kaya sila binisita ni Pnoy..think before you post

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QZZKXPEA67I7HELEIYM35QVYFA Jon

    “As the promised restoration of benefits is still nowhere in sight,
    patriotism and professionalism may no longer be a culture in Pagasa
    because of our aching stomachs,” Agustin said

    Eto ba yung pinagmamalaking savings noong SONA?
    Nakuha pala sa pagbawas sa sahod ng mga kaawa-awang kawani ng gobyerno.
    Way to go Budoy!
    Balang araw magtataho na lang ang kukunin para maka-menos sa PAGASA.

  • gyvv

    lets read between the lines ha …. cash benefits … benefit …. b-e-n-e-f-i-t …. naku naman ung kinauukulan mahirap ba ispellengin un at iniipit pa ung dapat ibigay….. ganyan din ung sa erpat ko retirement ng pulis … iniipit kung saan… bigyan naman ng katarungan~

  • eltee2012

    >>> ang tawag diyan ” CASH BEH INIPIT ! ! !

  • ApoLapullapu

    In the meantime, Budget Secretary Abad can do the forecasting.   

  • raymond

    so much politics…so much pork barrel…so many trapos like abad…kawawa ang taongbayan kapag ganito palagi…12 k pesos vs millions in pork barrel funds…godbless to all honest government employees!!!

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    sa dami ng kawani ng gobyerno
    na nambubutas lang ng salompuwet at

    nagsasayang ng pera
    sa borloloy at korupsyon

    kaya mababa ang sweldo
    except sa bsp gsis mwss

    1. economic activity generating tasks
    2. less borloloy at korupsyon
    3. bawasan kain at byahe charged to government

    sigurado tataas mga sweldo

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/I2GKO5AMCMQ6UQ6AE3OITDBB24 Raize

      Sir, wag mo po lahatin. Siguro kung may babawasan ang byahe ay ung mga Division Chiefs pataas. pero kaming nasa rank and file, wag kasi po..kami ung nagmomonitor at evaluate. Kami na nga ung bumababa, kami pa ung walang hazard pay.

      Ok sa kin ang administrasyon now unlike the previous one. Pero tanga lang kasi ang mga pinipili ng presidente sa gabinete nya. At di nila nirerespeto ang Magna Carta for Health Workers.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4YOCRZDE5JBDT7UGI54KTZD5M Jpb

    mataas na suweldo para sa de kalidad na serbisyo. ang forecast bukas ay uulan, 90 percent chance. dapat may incentive kapag tumama ang hula nila at pag mali ay may penalty din para mas tama ang mga  forecasts.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHPXXEV6GDM7S74O6K2P4JMLFY jayvee

       Forecast nga pare e. Alam mo ba ibig sabihin ng forecast? Pagtaya ng panahon. Ibig sabihin, hindi sya 100% accurate. Wala namang nakakasiguro sa mga mangyayari sa panahon, unless Diyos ka

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4YOCRZDE5JBDT7UGI54KTZD5M Jpb

        para mo na rin sinabi na puro a la tsamba ang mga nagtratrabaho doon. akala ko ba may mga gamit sila at nakabase sa mga data ang mga sinasabi nila na pag mali ang analysis ay mali din ang forecast. so ano pa pinag-kaiba ng pag-asa sa mga manghuhula base sa nararamdaman nilang ihip ng hangin at nakikitang mga ulap? scientific approach yan dre, at palusot na lang kung di sila makaforecast ng higher accuracy, kaya nga may “percent chance” pa na sinasabi.

      • Paolo Sulit

        Impossible 100% tama ang forecast – kahit sino sayantipiko mo tanungin ay sasabihin sayo impossible 100%. Para ba ganito rin yan ikaw na lumabas ng bahay ano tsansa na mabundol ka kotse? Marami data makukuha sa MMDa at accident report. pwede ko iforecast base sa data may % chance ka maakisdente – sasabihin mo hindi ako aksidente – mali forecast mo – Tama. Dahil forecast nga kaso kung nabundol ka nga – Tama rin. pumasok ka sa % chance. Ganun lang yun

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4YOCRZDE5JBDT7UGI54KTZD5M Jpb

        100% ??? wala nun.lalo na pag ilang araw pa ang layo. yung sampol mo pala ay malayo sa pinaguusapan, hindi lalabas sa radar doppler yung kotseng bubundol sa yo pag labas mo ng bahay mo-statistics yung sinasabi mo. yung bagyo o ulan lalabas yun sa satellite imaging ng cloud formation at movements at base dun macalculate ang approximate direction at iconsider din yung ibang factors kung may malapit din na lpa or depression na makakaapekto sa bilis at lakas ng bagyo at malalaman din kung ilang oras matatakpan ng ulap yung bahay nyo at kung maulan o hindi.

      • Michael Gan

         dude, ikaw na lang maging forecaster. mukha naman mas magaling ka pa. LOL

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4YOCRZDE5JBDT7UGI54KTZD5M Jpb

        aagawan pa ng trabaho yung absentee. baka mahirapan na maghanap ng trabaho yun lalo na at nalaman na lahat na pala absent sya.

      • Paolo Sulit

        Matindi naman ang bilib mo doppler radar – kahit may doppler radar di sasabihin sa yo ni doppler radar ang panahon bukas o sa susunod na oras. Pinapakita lang sa iyo ang kasalukuyan nangyayari. Tama sinabi mo sa “cloud formation| pero mamabaw na analysis yan di mo na consider na ang ulap ay naglalaho at nabubuo kada segundo sa marami factor tulad ng ihip ng mainit at malamig na hangin, enviroment, temperature (natural at man-made), humidity na nagbabago ang antas rin kada segundo. Ito ay napapaloob sa statistics base sa nakaraan pangyayari. Pwede lang sabihin ang chances pero 100% is impossible – para sa sampol ko sa aksidente di nalalayo yan sa forecasting dahil maaksidente o hindi – bahagi ka ng numero ng statistics ng forecasting – wg ka lang sana mabilang sa naaskidente.

  • edongski

    Bakit ang baba ang sweldo ni Loiz?
    The pay structure made it so.
    Technical personnel should get a higher job grade.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

    Kawawa naman sila ang liit na ng sweldo sa dami ng kaltas, mga nakaupo sa pwesto at sa Senado at Congress eh bumabaha sa pera ang mga sweldo, pork barrel t kurakot.

  • Ramil Abalon

    ha ha ha kalukuhan yan…..forecaster..malalaki ang sahod nyan hazard pay lang kuang..kami nga minimum lang sa fabrika nanakakapasok pa..ha ha ha sinong maniwala dyan…walng pamasahe dahil uminom o may kabit.o tinatamad  lang..at gustong ipakita na kailangan talaga yung hazard…ha ha ha…pag forecaster ka tapos ka ng pagaaral di naman pumapasok dyan high school graduate lang gaya ng pabrika….ha ha ha yung mga medya na pumatol sa pakulo na yan ay walang utak ha ha ha

    • hustlergalore

      “forecaster….malalaki ang sahod nyan”

      saan yan? definitely, hindi sa pinas

      • Ramil Abalon

        forecaster? vs sa pabrika? isipin ko kaya? alin dyan ang mataas? sa pabrika?

        2012/8/16 Disqus

    • bahog_itlog

      Isa ka ring bugok mag-isip.

      • Ramil Abalon

        ha! ganun eh? eh ikaw ano ang pwede kung itawag? he he he

        2012/8/16 Disqus

    • julietearjerky

      I don’t think it’s fair to compare a forecaster’s pay with that of a factory worker. For starters, it’s the government (with the taxpayers’ money) who pays for the forecaster’s pay while private companies pay for the workers. As a taxpayer, I’d like to see those actually serving the people get their well-deserved pay. As for the factory worker, complain to your private employer.

      • Ramil Abalon

        very simple lang…kaming nasa fabrika we word hard for the company….a forcaster word hard for the govt. and for the people wats d difference? education? so that it..since you are educated you have better understanding of the situation di ba. Forcaster send by the govt for training for free ranges from 1 month to 3 months and the most is they are send abroad…while nasa fabrika wala lang…we need to work 8 hrs a day with minimum paid to achieve our quota and be given a deciplinary if we cannot achieve the target while…forecaster have no target output per hour except that they can provide their forecast paid more than minimum and receive so many benifits…so is that what you mean?

      • Paolo Sulit

        Then who should you blame for your shortcomings or your current situation? Will blaming and pitching s**t to others will improve your life and financing? I know where you are coming but what is your current situation is the product of your past decisions. The forecaster has a life of their own too and they are just claiming what was theirs all along – they invoke their rights to the government. To me they are patriots of this country they wanted to stay in Pagasa despite the low pay but their patriotism to serve their country and countrymen made them stay. It’s just patriotism doesn’t put food on the table all the time.

      • Ramil Abalon

        Ha? you mean i have to blame myself for my situation? ah you know man even we are like this we are not like you….so thats it….you see…

      • Paolo Sulit

        You are the one who said that should you blame yourself? Not me. No one will or gonna really help you or myself or anyone but ourselves alone. So blaming someone else for the problem you are having at will not change your situation for the better. Most of the time the answers to our problems is not far to look for – by just looking on ourselves objectively – we could find the answer within.

      • Ramil Abalon

        so mean as forecaster you are better than us? why you need to protest in the first place…leave pagasa so that more qualified and industrious people do your work..or replace you..thats it.

      • Paolo Sulit

        In terms of forecasting yes we are better than you, In terms of manufacturing you are better than us. Leaving pagasa is not simple. It’s a public service , a duty to your country. We can be replace by industrious people but whom? If you are a graduate and a qualified forecaster are you willing to accept a meager pay? They have a lot vacant positions in pagasa that are not yet fill up especially forecasters.

      • Ramil Abalon

        no no no you are better than us because as a forecaster you have your educational requirement…while in the mfg..its only a high school gradaute from which where i belongs…you said..as a forecaster you are serving the public..thats true meaning…people have the right to give their comments specially for the public servant like your group is doing…so if you’re not satified anymore just resigned and go abroad for your pleasure never mind the public we can do it…, rather expecting you…ok

  • omangat

    12k neto mo tapos wala ka pamasahe para magtrabaho? Ang dapat sa’yo tanggalin ka na lang sa trabaho at madami naman dyang walang trabaho na nangangailangan ng 12k mo. Kung ayaw mo magbanat ng buto wag mo. Sa bahay ka na lang at himas himasin mo pisot mo baka may lumabas na mas malaki sa 12k.

    • bahog_itlog

      Isa ka ring bugok mag-isip. 

  • boybakal

    Kaya pala red yellow green ang color coding ng Bagyo.
    Dahil duling na sa gutom at tuliro na ang isip….nakakakita ng ibat ibang kulay.

    Tama lang na umangal…nakasalalay sa kanila ang kaligtasan ng mamamayan laban sa bagyo baha lindol, di nila mailigtas ang sarili nila sa gutom.

  • opinyonlangpo

    That is very irresponsible on the part of the absentee, he thinks his job is a joke and not taking it seriously. If he is not satisfied with the pay, he can file his resignation and look for a high paying job somewhere else. Talking to the media to justify his absence is even more irresponsible.

    • bahog_itlog

      Bugok ang opinyon mo. May like ka pa na isa ring bugok.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Stick with the issue, idiot. I want to say that I respect your opinion but you don’t even have one, empty skull – in your own terminology “bugok” – thats what you are. . . . and thanks for the attention anyway.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CWFTC6N7TLQGE3J4CQCRTZESPQ handsomeb

    I was reading some of the comments here. O my God. Please respect the scientists. Give them what is due. Understanding Weather takes years. Its not just ministerial. That’s why you need a PHD. Advances in science can only be possible if the government supports these people. The reason why we never have scientific breakthroughs whether in health, engineering and yes, weather forecasting and easy detection is primary because we do not support these scientists. Business will only make you rich but will not prolong your life. Advances in science does. And im not just talking about longevity here but survival. Better weather detection enables our species to survive. We ought to give these people what is due. Laundry allowance? Yes, they need it. In the US libre lahat because the are contributing to THE ADVANCEMENT OF SOCIETY. More than what any of us can contribute in our lifetime. Give them what is due.

    • opinyonlangpo

      That is what I noticed with most Filipinos working abroad, it is the same back in the Philippines. Instead of negotiating the pay and benefits before accepting a job, they accept the job and then complain about the job and meager pay and then work irresponsibly and negotiate for a better pay. It just means that accepting the job is already “kapit sa patalim situation” or worse than “hand to mouth” situation. Your opinion though applies in the US and other rich developed countries and thats why there are millions and millions of Filipino economic refugees/immigrants and OFWs.And you should consider that US is not Philippines, it is a world apart.

      • julietearjerky

        Well, with the rarity of available jobs here, a person is most likely to grab a job offer at once instead of reviewing first the benefits. It’s a tough competition. Hesitate for a moment and the employer may start favoring the other candidate who is more than willing to take the job

      • opinyonlangpo

        That’s understandable, exactly what I mean. But why wait for 16 years and then complain, instead he should have looked around for a better job offer all those years. Teaching gets a better pay, way back in the 80s I seen some earn as much as 90/hr.

  • cato_the_younger

    I find it sad that after 16 years of service, a forecaster only has a take home pay of P12,000. For someone whose services have the potential to affect millions of lives, they should be paid more. Meanwhile, the good for nothing members of Congress will get tens of millions a year on pork barrel – all 200 or 300 of them. What does that tell you about government’s priorities? I agree with Handsomeb that scientists should be paid more. I can understand where the mean comments come from considering that many more people probably earn even less, but we have to understand the importance of his job.

  • w33k3nd3r

    Why don’t you lessen the amount of pork given to deranged Congress people like Mitos Magsaysay or rapist Senators like Sotto, who are living it bourgeois? Or nail Divine Lee and or her dad Delfin Lee who robbed PAG IBIG of 6 Billion worth? These forecasters are doing something useful, rearing descent families while they’re at wit’s end and the government is spending so much money to relocate squatters who do nothing but turn the city into a social and aesthetic eye sore. This entire thing is just twisted, man!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1194349182 Christopher Daniel Go

    Salary of a weather forecaster in Australia ranges from $56,574 to $75,139 per year or $4,714 to $6,262 per month. 

    In the US, the salary of a weather forecaster ranges from $68,000 to $135,000 per year or $5,667 to $11,250 per month. 

    Php12,000 per month or Php144,000 per year is equivalent to roughly around $3,400 per year or $284 per month.  Why the weather forecasters are holding their posts in the Philippines in spite of the wide salary gap speaks volumes. 

    Another way to look at it is what a weather forecaster in Australia or in the US makes in a day is what a weather forecaster in the Philippines will make in a month.

    • turfwaybox

      I believe that pinoy weather forecaster should be given fair salary and decent equipment just like any other government employee, pero you cannot compare salary sa US / Aussie / saka Pinas kse   iba ibang place has different cost of livng din …. here in the US a weatherman of equal grade in NY may have a higher salary than the weatherman in Missouri … just like a worker in Metro Manila have a higher salary than workers in  Sulu, Bulacan, and other place which uses provincial rate , this is because of varying cost of living …. so hindi pwede ipag compare sa rate.  kse pag ganun, eh kawawa naman anf factory workers from China compared to factory workers sa Metro Manila ..

  • joe__bloggs

    12k… OFW… brain drain

  • randyaltarejos

    Let’s not go any further on this issue. The point is that most of the PAGASA employees, especially the weather forecasters, need additional allowances to make them perform their duties well. Although it is not a good excuse to abandon your job if you have no extra money to report for work. Give what is due to Caesar. What’s the use of enacting the said law if it hasn’t been implemented. The question is that no funds are available. If Congress is really caring in its attitude towards the many public servants who need money, they would be willing to share some of their pork-barrel funds to PAGASA employees. But they don’t care at all. While many of the congressmen’s constituents are submerged in floods, they’re happy counting their blessings inside their concrete houses in exclusive subdivisions. What the administration should do is to cut a portion of the pork-barrel funds and give them to line agencies that need them most like PAGASA.

  • randyaltarejos

    During the months of rainy season, Congress must make some adjustments in the distribution of the allotments intended for government offices. Before the GAA is approved, they must ensure that more money will go into the line agencies that directly deal with the victims of natural calamities. For example, disaster agencies should be given more budget than those agencies that do not get involved in disaster and relief operations. In this way, the respective agencies can buy more rubber boats, and even jet skis to rescue flood victims. In same vein, PAGASA will be able to upgrade its obsolete weather equipment and buy new ones to be more effective in weather forecasting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QZZKXPEA67I7HELEIYM35QVYFA Jon

    Humingi lang ng kanilang nararapat na sahod.
    Sinabon pa lalo ni Budoy.
    Bakit yung mga taga PAGCOR at MWSS di niya mapagtaasan ng kilay?
    Nasaan ang katarungan?

  • m1600

    hindi lang PAGaASA ang tinangalan ng MAGNA CARTA madami pang govt. agency. Ang nakakapagtaka bakit yung mga office kgaya ng COMM GROUP at OFFICE NI OCHOA  ni SIMEON binigyan ng tig 300,000,000.00 million. May panahon din kayo hindi lahat ng oras nasa itaas kayo tignan natin sa ELEKSYON 2013 KAKAIN KAYO NG ALIKABOK! LALO na si HONTIVEROS sa kankongan pupulutin yan! PASARAP KAYO samantalang yung mga evacuees DAGA NA ANG KINAKAIN.

  • m1600

    12,000 with mouth to fed and children to send to school. Hindi ako magtataka kung kumain na ng DAGA yung mga kababayan natin na wang permanent na trabaho. 
    Ayaw ni SIMEON ng ganyan NEGATIVE na balita! bUT TRUTH REALLY HURTS!

  • omangat

    Nagpauto naman kayo sa tamad na forecaster na yan. Neto ang sinabi nya na 12k. Bawas na dyan yung mga kaltas sa benepisyo nya pag retiro at malamang hulog nya sa mga loan kung saan saan. Kung ayaw nya magtrabaho mag resign sya at nang maibigay sa iba yung kanyang pwesto. HIndi yung magdadahilan na walang pamasahe. Ito namang PDI, may maisulat lang pinapatulan mga ganitong mga tamad na empleyado.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      ang tanga mo naman…ano ang ibig sabihin ng TAKE HOME PAY…siempre e di ung NETO….tanga mo!!!

      dedepensahan mo pa itong noynoying

      • omangat

        mas tanga naman yata ag dumidepensa sa tamad na empleyado na gusto lang sumahod na hindi nagtatrabaho.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        wow..hindi nagtatarabaho???lagi ko yata yan nakikita sa tv at naririnig sa radyo…kaysa sa noynoying mo na laging naka dota

      • omangat

        Ang logic ay kung ayaw mo sa trabaho mo ng pasahod mag resign ka at humanap ka ng ibang mataas. Yung kiniclain ng iba dito na 12k yung sahod nya ay mali yun. 12k yung take home pay nya binawas na dun yung lahat ng kaltas kagaya ng mga loan nya kung saan saan. Mataas na yun para sa empleyado ng gobyerno. Walang ordinaryong empleyado na sumasahod ng ganyan. Wala pa akong nakitang teacher halimbawa na lang na hindi pumasok dahil walang pamasahe sa bus kahit mas mababa sa 10k ang sahod. Napaka iresponsable ng empleyadong ito at dapat lang na sibakin.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tanga!!!..alam mo ba ang magna carta nila???basahin mo muna yan!!!BOBO!!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        mataas na ang 12k???wow…

        ang starting salary ngaun sa gobyerno ay 17k…salary grade 1 is 17 k…

        PO1 nga ay nasa 21k
        teacher 1 is 18k…

        BOBO…mag research ka muna!!!

      • omangat

        hay mahirap turuan ang bobo. Yang ang sasahurin mo kung hindi ka nangungutang at walang kaltas!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tanga!!!BOBO!!!BULLSHEY t ka!!!!

      • omangat

        hahahaha! Yan ang argument mo? Inday, sige na balik ka na sa kusina at maghugas ng plato.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        kanina pa wala ka naman argumento…lahat lang ad hominem!!!tranga tanga mo….tapos ngaun sasabihin mo sakin na yanang argumento ko…TANGA!!!

      • omangat

        may paresearch reasearch ka pa nalalaman ni hindi ka marunong gumamit ng common sense mo! kasi mga katulong nabigyan lang computer akala mo kung sinong napakatalino na.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        kakatawa naman ng mga post…ilagay nalang kita sa basurahan…diyan ka nararapat

      • julietearjerky

        Slow clap. What an accurate description of yourself. :D

      • omangat

        PRC and NCLEX licensed po ako, FYI. Ikaw, ano ba natapos mo? Wasting government money paying an incompetent and indolent government employee is beyond acceptable for the tax payers. He might as well resign and offer the job to those who are actually willing to work. Having no bus fare to do his duty is not a valid reason when in fact he is getting paid for his services. A 12k take home pay is decent enough for a gov’t employee that is if the payment for various loans and retirement plans has already been deducted.
        That is my only point. I won’t blame you kung tanga na ang tawag sa may NCLEX license.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/E5I7ZKIERTX53LGGVMSVMODHSA bentot

        bwahahahahaha ! PRC at NCLEX passer ka pala , ibig sabihin wala ka trabaho bwahahahahah ! pagpasok mo sa hospital magbabayad ka pa ng training fee bwahahaha ! wag ka magyabang at sampo isang pera ang NCLex passer sa pilipinas !

      • omangat

        ano natapos mo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/E5I7ZKIERTX53LGGVMSVMODHSA bentot

        bwahahahahahahahahaha , wawa ka naman ! wag kasi ipagyabang ang natapos dahil mas malamang na mapahiya ka! bwahahaha !!!!

      • kitoymonster

        Haha dahil talo na at obvious na obvious ang kabobohan, may pina NCLEX at PRC line ang bobo. Kaya naman pala bobo kasi nga ang liit ng sahod ng nurse. FYI lang po maam, mataas na ngayon ang sahod sa pinas, kayo lang ang maliit. Punta ka nalang abroad para malaki sahod mo.

      • omangat

        hahahaha! nakakatawa mga tanga dito para patulan mga comment nyo. siguro wala na makain at mali mag isip. pero sige at nang matahimik. Which part of comment that says I am unemployed? kumain ka kaya para makapg isip ka ng maayos. maghanap ka ng daga dyan ng may makain ka.

      • kitoymonster

        haha tanga, bobo, at d pa marunong mgbasa. (facepalm)
        saan sa reply ko ngsabi wala kang work? Meron na akong daga pampakain sayo baka kasi labo nang mata mo poor kasi sahod nyo eh. Nurse LANG kasi.

      • omangat

        My net pay is $250,000.00 a year it is low compared to other profession but I am living comfortably and I don;t consider myself poor. What is yours?

      • kitoymonster

        Yun lang ba? President yata ako ng isang Fortune 500. I’ve been to the moon twice. Visited Mars before Curiosity. 

        With $250,000.00/year, NCLEX, PRC, churva2x, dapat alam mo na ang difference ng ‘ at ; right? Alamin mo narin ang purpose ng dot.

      • omangat

        hahaha sore LOSER!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/E5I7ZKIERTX53LGGVMSVMODHSA bentot

        kung mangarap ka at magising ! bwahahahahaha !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2SNRPVPCUKU2H2KF3FC3CED7DE juan

    pati nga yung 17 regional science high schools sa bansa ay hanggang ngayoun hindi pa nirerelease ang subsidy ngayong 2012 eh august na. Natutulog na yta si sec abad dyan sa dbm. 

  • 4kingdaddy

    if you have to come to work and you don’t have the means, i am hoping you’ll try to find a way to get to your place of work…..i was hoping you would care not only of your family but with your fellowmen as well…..perhaps you could cut down on some of your expenses…cut a few pesos on your children’s allowances, for example….i am pretty sure you have a lap tap or desktop computer, at home or work…use a spreadsheet to balance your debit and credit…..this will show you where to cut expenses….i am not a cpa, per se, but everything can be learned if you really wanted to…..i make more than you, even if i am a retiree…..but still, i have to make sure that at the end of the month, ii still have a few amount left for emergency purposes….nothing against you….mine is just a suggestion….i hope you get a raise……

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

      DUH!!! Taasan kamo ang bayad. Aba, hindi biro ang trabaho nila no.

      • 4kingdaddy

        anong bayad?..sa pasahe??…..suweldo ang taasan…ano ba ‘yong huling sentence ko?….’di ba sabi ko sana mabigyan ng umento?…duh ka ng duh diyan…mamaya ma “duh” gukan ka ng iba dyan, sige….hehehe…



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