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Government to replace ARMM

PH panel, MILF agree on new political entity

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Government chief peace negotiator Marvic Leonen

The government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) have agreed to create a new autonomous political entity to replace the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao

(ARMM), moving closer to a peace agreement that could bring development to the war-torn, impoverished Philippine south.

Speaking from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, a day after the government and the MILF concluded the 27th round of talks, government chief negotiator Marvic Leonen said on Wednesday that the two sides had signed a document that contained their “decision points on principles.” Those points, he said, would guide discussions on the substantive agenda of the peace negotiations.

The signing of the document dispelled cynicism about the progress of the peace talks, Leonen said.

“As far as the government is concerned, these common points are commitments that can be properly accommodated by our current legal and political realities,” Leonen said, reading from a prepared statement.

Among the issues the two sides agreed upon was the commitment to “work for the creation of an autonomous political entity in place of the ARMM,” as both sides recognized that the “status quo is unacceptable.”

The ARMM is composed of the provinces of Basilan, Lanao del Sur, Maguindanao, Shariff Kabunsuan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi. It is currently run by officer in charge Mujib Hattaman, appointed by President Benigno Aquino III last year when Congress passed a law that postponed the August 2011 regional elections to May 2013, to be held simultaneously with the midterm polls.

Speaking to reporters via Skype surrounded by his panel members, Leonen said replacing the ARMM with a new entity would require a law.

The government must convince Congress to pass such a law.

The new autonomous political entity “should improve on the experiences of the past,” Leonen said, referring to President Aquino’s insistence on reforms in the ARMM.

At present, he said the “contours” of the entity and how it will be put in place were still under discussion.”

Poles apart

The chief negotiator acknowledged that right now the government and the MILF were “poles apart” when it comes to their respective positions on the geographic scope of the autonomous political entity.

For her part, Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Teresita Deles, who attended the Palace briefing, called on  people to support the process and give their inputs.

“It is very important that at the end of the day that whatever is signed has broad support from the public,” Deles said.

Leonen said the two sides were talking about an autonomous political entity that would meet the requirements of the Constitution. How this could be done is still under discussion, he said.

10-point agreement

Included in the 10-point agreement was that the autonomous political entity will have a ministerial form of government.

Asked how the talks would affect the ARMM elections scheduled for next year, Leonen said this was being discussed and that there were “various options on the table.”

But if no peace agreement is signed before then, the regional elections will proceed.

Asked if the regional elections were a pressure on both sides to come to an agreement, Leonen said: “We are pressured to have an agreement because of the conditions in the area. We are pressured because we know that many people have died in this armed conflict for reasons that we can address on a negotiating table. We are not pressured because of this [election].”

Miriam Coronel-Ferrer, a member of the government panel,  explained that the signing of a final peace agreement would “not automatically suspend the ARMM elections. Both sides would have to meet many requirements, because there were many requirements, including getting Congress to pass a law that would create a new autonomous political entity that would replace the ARMM.

The two camps are set to meet again next month.

The signed document contains 10 of what originally were 11 points of consensus reached by the parties December last year, including the grant of “genuine autonomy” for the Moro people.

Decision points

The other points outlined in the document include guarantee of human rights; listing of powers reserved for the national government in relation to the autonomous setup; recognition of the need for power-sharing and wealth-sharing; commitment for continuity based on previous consensus in the already 15-year negotiations; and recognition of “Bangsamoro identity and the legitimate grievances and claims of the Bangsamoro people.”

The “decision points” is the first major document of the negotiations signed under the Aquino administration. The document was supposedly inked last month but the MILF panel refused to sign it due to “annotations.”

An MILF news release said the government panel “made four amendments that … destroyed the essence of the document,” which was prepared during the February meeting.

Because of the controversy over the annotation, a ranking MILF official told the Philippine Daily Inquirer, back-channel talks became necessary. Efforts by the facilitator, Dato Ab Ghafar Tengku Mohamed, culminated a day before the parties met in Kuala Lumpur for the official schedule on Tuesday.

“That was when the real meeting happened,” the MILF official said.

“Both acknowledged the roles played by the facilitator and the International Contact Group in reaching this breakthrough,” the parties said in a joint statement announcing the agreement. With reports from Ryan Rosauro, Charlie Señase and Jeoffrey Maitem, Inquirer Mindanao

Originally posted at 06:53 pm | Wednesday, April 25,  2012


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  • murtson

    After the MILF, the BIFF, then the Abu Sayyaf and so on….

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Mindanao is only for Muslims! KlLL ALL CHRISTIAN PlGS!

      • murtson

        wow! you can take killing pigs?

      • Palparan

        why would you do that?

        Dont you know that your prophet muhammad loves to eat pork?

      • Jiponbuster

        Praising Chinese to crushed your nation rubbish.  World doesnt need bad guys like you. 

      • Palparan

        ,,I,,

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

        oh yeah..then lets to go war then,, Goat Fu…ker

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

     Al Salam Alaikum! Mindanao is for all Muslims! Christian pigs out now!

    • tonto_ka

      i have many muslim friends who are eating pigs…how come?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

      Hey! abdul- goat Fu..ker .. you dont own Mindanao..

  • rasabas

    Sana tuloy-tuloy na ang BREAKTHROUGH. This is not only for Mindanaons but for the benefits of all FILIPINOS, Muslim or others are alike.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Yes give Mindanao back to Muslims! give Visayas to Muslims! give Luzon to Muslims! the whole world will embrace Islam.

      • wanluna

         or why not just go back to the middle east! and leave us!

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    Mindanao is only for Muslims. Kickout all Pagan PlGS!

    • Palparan

      Oink, oink!

      Prophet Muhammad loves to eat pork!

      Oink, oink!

      • Jiponbuster

        WoW you really got an nice research. Hoping one day to see you in Jolo. Viva Chinese..

    • wanluna

      Not all of Mindanao is Muslim. Ancient tribes has even rejected islam in mindanao…ask the Lumads. you are all cry babies asking for rights that you cant even extend to others. 

    • MNLFoodcritic

      Half of the Christians in Mindanao are descendants of muslims who were part of the mass conversion back in the early 20th and 19th centuries. So the Christians in Mindanao who are also indigenous to Mindanao should also claim part of Mindanao  as well.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

        Islam will dominate the Philippines! Give us back Mindanado! Give us back Palawan! Give us back Visayas and Luzon! Christian Pigs out now!

        إذا المنافقين، وهؤلاء الذين في قلوبهم مرض، والمتشائمون في المدينة لا تتوقف لا، نحن حقا يجب عليك نحث على ضدها، ثم أنها ستكون جيرانكم في ذلك، ولكن. بعد قليل الرجيم، سيتم القبض عليهم أينما وجدت وقتل مع تقتيلا

      • Mark Suarez

        Go to Indonesia, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

        ahahahah  your  nuts.. the goat got your Di..k???

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    باسم الله الرحمن الرحيم. تدمير كل الخنازير المسيحي!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L2CUVK7UBTUTKTGD35WSJHDCUE ernie

       taena mo rin . asalahmulaikum….

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    The time has come to impose Sharia Law in Mindanao, Our ancestral homeland.

    • JuanCitizen

      Hoy sira ulo

    • JuanCitizen

      If you come anywhere near my home and start claiming it in the name of your ancestral domain and force your Law upon my family, against our free will, God forbid I will put a bullet between your eyes, and that of your minions. Allah gave me free will and the faculty of reason. You will not deprive me of that. So STFU!

      • wanluna

         you better start raising a pig farm and dip your bullets in pork fat and blood, heheh. and hope the zombies are afraid.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RXZ5XENTQSFR6HPWMLEUG3TGGY Kerby

      Sharia Law = Stupidity

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    bilisan na yan at
    tatamaan na tayo ng tsina

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    أولئك الذين كفروا بآياتنا سوف نصليهم نارا كلما وتفحم من خلال جلودهم، ونحن يجب تغييرها للجلود العذبة، والتي قد تذوق عقوبة: إن الله عزيزا حكيما

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    Islam is the answer 

    • wanluna

       and the question is…What is the most backward ideology in the world that threats women as second class citizen, that allows young girls aged 9 to be married of to dirty old men, which promises 72 virgins to jihadists that will kill infidels by suicide, which asks for equality while oppressing people of other faith in their dominated countries?

      • Jiponbuster

        Your faith is not healthy and not acceptabe by wise men and women. Be realistic, man should married a woman not to die as a single and not to married a man. God not to be served rather human has to be slaved by his needs and not by his false belief. Hoping Chinese will totally changed your bad beliefs.

      • Jiponbuster

        backward ideology!! Filifinos are in fact are going bacward. Middle east are most destined of your countrymen, what facts in your mind? Why you let your kababayan to go and work in bacward nations? Write something that make a sense.

      • wanluna

         the middle eastern countries are dependent on other nationalities to build their cities, their buildings, and oil refineries. it just so happens that they pay better thats why skilled filipino workers go there. if you go to the middle east countries seldom are you going to find locals working, specially the women, because islamic ideology…their ideology treats their women as second class citizens good only for making babies and walking behind their husband. this is making sense…but you are not!

  • http://twitter.com/grandpaber mel bercel

    next agenda charter change…write in the constitution that people of all faith shall coexist in the autonomous region and sharia law is an option of law applicability to a non-muslim resident…allocate one senator chair for the autonomous region….make the sultan of sulu the titular head of the autonomous region…each regional area should be allocated one senate chair so that the country’s upper house is represented by regions who were born there and at least resided 10 consecutive years in the region and not a monopoly of few region representation…change the election of president and vice president as a tandem (team) and not separately elected… select an apo lakay (an iggorot heritage) of the cordilleras as titutlar head of the cordilleras.. titutlar heads will form the vision for their realm for the posterity of the indegineous people. development and industrialization is good but over-development  at the expense of environmental degradation should not be acceptable…public lands should always remain a public land but indigents should be allowed to use a contigous half hectare of it per family for livelihood and sustenance purposes of course with nominal rental fee and a right of succession to the parents caregiver child if he/she wishes to remain in the area to take care of the parents…any ownership of agro-land shall be limited to 15 hectares per couple and if the couple will have it tenanted a 40 percent share harvest as rental for the land goes to the owner and the rest to the cultivator, only when the land is sold to another family that the tenant will receive a proceed of the sale of 20% of the gross, and the tenant has the first right to buy the property at the fair market value, if the owner or heir wants to cultivate the land, then he shall allocate a residential area for the tenant to live and a small area for his livelihood and sustenance…let us recognize the fact that the philippines is an agricultural country and farmers, who produces the food of the people, should be treated well with respect and dignity. landowners who are not farmers are just businessmen and should be subject  to appropriate taxation and laws. landowner-farmers are farmers…i am not that good of writer but these are some food for thought, maybe you readers out there can present other thoughts to improve the country and let it be part of the charter change.

  • JuanCitizen

    We have a troll in here. Hey moderator bakit comment ko kelangan mo pa i-approve? Look at what that troll abdusalam is posting and you allow them?

    • wanluna

       like every other mainstream media outlet in the west that cuddles islamist while at the same time suppressing valid questions and arguments against islam, im afraid that inquirer is playing the same thing.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

      Your comment is probably offensive to Leftists.  Inquirer is a Leftist organization, and they don’t really have balanced news and fearless views.

    • Mark Suarez

      comments are auto filtered. You might use a word not accepted by disqus…

  • MNLFoodcritic

    This is weird because more than half of the Christians in Mindanao are descendants of Mindanao Muslims who converted to Christianity back in the early 20th and 19th centuries. These indigenous Christians should have also been given a say in the discussions.

  • pepito gwaps

    Its a mistake again, the M are the minority they must learn to mix up with the majority citizens of RP. They must be reshuffled with other Filipinos.Learn from Singapore context where 3 main races with many religious beliefs live together in harmony and peace. They must only put strict law against disrespect and insults to avoid riots or any form of chaos once they are integrated with the Filipino society. It encourages division again among Filipinos and future haven for anti-Phillipine movements. Never learn from history of the world. Only respect and strict laws will solve this problem.

    • Jiponbuster

      Chinese is the answers of your arrogance nation. M hates corrupt like your ex preses. Marcos, estrada, arroyo and corona. Thats is very simple. M dont praise and not proud of being filipinos. Filipinos are slaves to spanish and americans. Review your rizal course.

      • pepito gwaps

        Corona is not pres.! PM of Singapore belongs to Indian race not Chinese. Check your details first, sanamagan!

  • bahaykubo1015

    Abdusalam
     
    “The time has come to impose Sharia Law in Mindanao, Our ancestral homeland”
     
    I was born and raised in Mindanao, a fourth generation of immigrants from the North.
    Muslims in Mindanao is composed of a very small minority of Mindanao natives.
    Your claim of Mindanao as your ancestral home land only shows your total disconnect to reality.
    All this arrogance in the name of your religion ISLAM….
    Mindanao is the ancestral homeland of numerous tribes. A big majority of them  non-Muslims.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NKQVDWJTDD7GE3KKLMNFLKL2JQ Meeney Miney

    this is the same “state within a state” scheme of the abnoy administration. subukan lang nila implement to ngayon lalo na mainit mga ulo ng tao sa mindanao dulot ng brownouts.

  • WarOfSelf

    Never gonna work. Ultimately they won’t stop until they get the whole of Mindanao. The word ‘ancestral’ has become a farce. Its never that. If you roll back so many years when the world was born, religion did not exist. Its all about Islam and their Jihad against the non-believers. Why can’t we just all live in peace?

  • dead_pixel

    noyAbnoy government to replace ARMM with FOOTT – Filipinos Out Of The Territory!!!  

  • dead_pixel

    Parang may kulang sa report.
    Hindi nabangit ang 5 million at additional millions na binigay ni noyAbnoy sa mga terorista!!!

    • Jiponbuster

      Filipinos are full of fun. To many heroes–Marcos, Estrada, Arroyo, Corona. All corrupts. Prasie to Aquino & Ramos family. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

        Jiponbuster,
        let me correct. NO!!!!  Not to RAMOS,  I know what he did.  Our family ay isa sa mga nagutom noon nang hindi nya binigay ang sahud ng mga government employees.  No way man…

  • Copernicus99

    The current peace talks with the MILF are an exercise in futility. Why is our government even negotiating with the MILF? Has the entire muslim population of Mindanao designated the MILF to act for and on behalf of it? Clearly, peace is not the primary goal of the MILF, but rather power and control over the region. That’s why they maintain a well-trained and well-equipped military arm.

    The most effective way to bring peace to Mindanao is for the government to pump prime the economies in the various provinces under a carefully conceptualized master plan. The primary root of unrest is clearly massive poverty.

    The government should also rid the region of private armies and undertake the training and deployment of disciplined and efficient police and military forces. The objective is to eradicate lawlessness and other forms of abuse by political warlords.

    Further, considering that education is an essential component of development, there is a need to establish state colleges and/or universities in muslim Mindanao for the development and empowerment of human resources in the region.

    Undoubtedly, economic development in various forms will follow as a natural consequence once the infrastructure for law and order is in place. With economic development and a stable political atmosphere, the MILF, MNLF, Abu Sayyaf, and the like will eventually become marginalized.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Keep your Dirty Christian hands away from Muslim ancestral homelands of Mindanao! Philippines is for Muslims! Christian Pagan Pigs out now! Islam is the way! Allahu Akbar!

      إذا المنافقين، وهؤلاء الذين في قلوبهم مرض، والمتشائمون في المدينة لا تتوقف لا، نحن حقا يجب عليك نحث على ضدها، ثم أنها ستكون جيرانكم في ذلك، ولكن. بعد قليل الرجيم، سيتم القبض عليهم أينما وجدت وقتل مع تقتيلا

      • Copernicus99

        Take a look in a mirror and see who the pagan pig is.

      • Crusade_r

        Philippines is for Muslims?  You are out of your mind! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

         It is not what you eat that makes you dirty, it is what is in your heart that makes dirty.  “Abdusalam” is Arabic for servant of peace, on the contrary, what you promote is violence.  UnIslamic!  As-salaam alaykum.

    • neverneverstop

      Development cannot push through if there’s unrest basically because investors feel unsafe that their businesses may be jeopardized by security threats. Thus, they’d rather invest in profitable economic environments than in those security threat-plagued locations.

      • Copernicus99

        We are in agreement. Not only peace, but also law and order must be established in the impoverished and troublesome areas of Mindanao before investors will come in. That’s precisely why I’m advocating the permanent dismantlement of private armies and the training and deployment of disciplined police and military forces in the region. But first and foremost, there must be a master development plan for the region. 

  • daniboy2012

    There’s nothing wrong when two brothers with differents faith are talking about peace…let the negotiators do their job, then put it a ballot. Lets give peace a chance, are you not tired of hearing and seeing the news of bloodshed…. christians and muslims should never to go war if true to their faith….this centuries old miseries must stop….its all about compromise and removal of distrust…lets move on one step at a time.   

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Give Muslims a chance! Mindanao is now ours! KlLL ALL CHRISTIAN PlGS!

      • mykmiguel

        tsk tsk tsk what an attitude…if u call this attitude..

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         Convert now to Islam or you will burn in HeII

      • Mark Suarez

        Islam is a CULT founded by retarded, killer and rapist Mohammed…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/IS6KI2U7EDZS6D2Q7MZ3Z6CAME Lila

        tell me where you are..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KNCRPDU3VZZ3HAOL53SO3UZ3NU Juan

    No matter how many times you changed the name of the entity, it will not changed the lives of the muslims. For as long as there muslims who take advantage of their fellow muslims. Eliminate the warlords and slavery system and there will be peace in muslim Mindanao.  

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

     Insha Allah! Mindanao is now ours! Kickout all Christian Pigs! Give Mindanao back to Muslims! Impose Sharia Law! Bismillah!

    إذا المنافقين، وهؤلاء الذين في قلوبهم مرض، والمتشائمون في المدينة لا تتوقف لا، نحن حقا يجب عليك نحث على ضدها، ثم أنها ستكون جيرانكم في ذلك، ولكن. بعد قليل الرجيم، سيتم القبض عليهم أينما وجدت وقتل مع تقتيلا

  • alazzka

    Perhaps the set up of Hongkong and Macau as Special Administrative Region of China could serve as a model in crafting this new Bangsa Moro Entity.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

      Silence! Mindanao is for all Muslims! just Kickout all Christian Pigs! Salaam

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    Dirty Christian Barbarian Pigs out of Mindanao now! Victory is ours!

    إذا المنافقين، وهؤلاء الذين في قلوبهم مرض، والمتشائمون في المدينة لا تتوقف لا، نحن حقا يجب عليك نحث على ضدها، ثم أنها ستكون جيرانكم في ذلك، ولكن. بعد قليل الرجيم، سيتم القبض عليهم أينما وجدت وقتل مع تقتيلا

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IS6KI2U7EDZS6D2Q7MZ3Z6CAME Lila

       dirty? i think i saw muslims swimming in a pool and at the same time spitting in it.. gross

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         In the name of Allah the merciful you will be dragged into the deepest pits of HeII! Convert to Islam and you will be saved.

  • bumbleyeahs

     Just blow your self up. I’ll send your family a roasted pig on your funeral.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Christians are all cowards they stole our ancestral lands but when we fought back Christian Pigs all ran away like real cry babies. Praise be to Allah Mindanao is finally within our grasp. Dull Christian ldiots. إذا المنافقين، وهؤلاء الذين في قلوبهم مرض، والمتشائمون في المدينة لا تتوقف لا، نحن حقا يجب عليك نحث على ضدها، ثم أنها ستكون جيرانكم في ذلك، ولكن. بعد قليل الرجيم، سيتم القبض عليهم أينما وجدت وقتل مع تقتيلا

      • bumbleyeahs

         Hahaha your kind cries more like a baby just because you were served a pig. Who’s the coward now? So scared just because of an animal. Just ask your terrorist brothers for a bomb vest and blow yourself. Oh I forgot the Muslims in Minadanao are among the most coward in your religion.

      • ThudOthwacker

        Islam is also foreign in the region too. If you “KNOW” your history.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         In the name of Allah you will be punished and will thrown into the sea of fire you filthy Christian monkey

      • ThudOthwacker

        My paradise with Jesus are better than the 75 Virgins  Mohammed promised you. LOL Even in the after life some of your people are still preoccupied with coitus.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    Islam is the one and only religion. Christian Pigs burn in HeII

    • antonioluna

       that is correct and you are a pig in fact in your religion you can rape your own relatives

  • MNLFoodcritic

    More than half of the Christians in Mindanao are descendants of Mindanao Muslims who converted to Christianity back in the early 20th and 19th centuries. These indigenous Christians should have also been given a say in the discussions.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Islam is the one and true religion. Christian Pigs have no right to survive. Leave now or you will all be punished. عند رسول الله (صلي الله عليه وسلم) أي شخص يعين قائدا للجيش أو انفصال وقال انه حث خاصة له … يقول: وقاتلوا في سبيل الله وفي سبيل الله. محاربة الذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام، والطلب منهم الجزية. إذا وافقوا على الدفع، ويتقبل منهم وصد يديك. إذا رفضوا دفع الضرائب، وطلب المساعدة الله ومحاربتهم.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XIJY2MSBTT7VT256PTE7VDEFPM JOJIE

    Let us just simply call it the Autonomous Region of Mindanao (ARM of the Philippines). Para walang pag a ari na sa  muslim or christiano ang region na yan. Basta taga Mindanao ma muslim man o kristiano ay dapat kasali sa pag sulong para sa ika u unlad ng Mindanao.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       lDlOT! Mindanao is only for Muslims! Christian barbarians out now! Give Palawan to Muslims! Give Visayas to Muslims! Give Luzon to Muslims! This is the will of Allah

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Teresita Deles asked the people “to support the process and give their inputs”  This is according to the PDI news report by Christine Avenano. I am a bit apprehensive because now in Malaysia the government’s chief negotiator Marvic Leonen announced the signing by both sides of a document outlining “decision points on principles.”

    What is going on?
    Why is the Philippine panel signing an agreement on principles which do not conform to the principles of our Philippine Constitution? It has no bearing at all. The problem is every time a document is signed the Philippine government is stuck to abide by it while the other party can violate the “agreements” by impunity. Look what we got into by Marcos’ Tripoli Agreement and what has happened now is a repetition of the same mistake. The mistake stems from the wrong reading of history that Mindanao was inhabited mostly of Muslims and that Islam has instituted its members to set up the Bangsamoro republic in Mindanao to claim what they believe is “theirs”. Sounds so eerie and similar to bullying China claiming our shoals and oil-rich islands. Mindanao was inhabited by indigenous tribes first and SOME of these tribes converted to Islamism. Today, Muslim population is only 5% of our national population and they want a big chunk of Mindanao?

    If we are negotiating for peace, then the other party represented for the said Bangsamoro republic, the MILF, must first and foremost, STOP TERRORISM in Mindanao by putting down their arms and ending the activities on kidnapping, extortion, murder by ambuscades, destabilization, economic sabotage through the backdoor relentless smuggling of goods coming from Malaysia, and ruthless time-set bombings killing innocent civilians.

    I have only one input to give to Teresita Deles – STOP THIS STUPIDITY TO GIVE POWER TO “THE BANGSAMORO REPUBLIC” because we are only prolonging the misery of the people. Please remember that no Filipino or “Bangsamoro” citizen has an exclusive right to use the territorial jurisdiction confined within the national territory bounded by seas and islands from the north to south, west to east. Does it mean that whatever territory (land, air, and water) covered by the ARMM any Filipino wishing to reside or engage in business there will have to abide by the laws of the new ministerial government (sub-state) that has overriding authority over the Philippine democratic government?

    Is that not what is exactly a violation of the Constitution? A separate government within the government? Amend the Constitution by plebiscite or people’s constitutional congress first and not a mere act of elective Congress to give in to the “ten decision points” which, to me, are entirely inimical to the interests of the State (The true Republic of the Philippines). Will have a state religion in Bangsamoro republic in clear violation again of “separation of church and state”?

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Bismillah! You will burn in HeII for defiling Islam. The brave and
      honorable Army of Allah will punish you and all your Christian Pig
      brethren 

      • artgarcia

         Why can’t we leave religion out of this. What is at stake is the welfare of all Filipinos regardless of creed. To my mind if we approach this problem with the same mindset that we’re all Filipinos, we could have settled this long ago and not in Malaysia but here in our own Country.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         ldiot. Convert to Islam or you will burn in HeII. Islam is the answer to lasting peace. Kill all Christian Pigs! Mashala! ندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا
        كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من
        القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم،
        يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام،
        والطلب منهم الجزية. إذا وافقوا على الدفع، ويتقبل منهم وصد يديك. إذا رفضو

      • artgarcia

         Ikaw ang sira ulo. Kahit nung unang panahon marami ng relihion di lang muslim. Bakit di mo igalang kagustuhan ng iba? Magbigti kana lang!

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         Your foul mouth has no place in Islam. Burn in HeII along with your relatives. Allah will punish you all. Bismillah ir rahman ir raheem

      • artgarcia

        You started with your foul mouth. I hope your Allah doesn’t punish you also. Allah Akbar?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

        I will give you a chance. Convert to Islam now and you will be saved

      • prolificity

        You speak of Islam as peace, and yet you call for the blood of Christians you derisively call ‘pigs.’

        You are no different from the hypocrites of thousands of years ago, despite what you claim and say of Islam.

        Converting to Islam and have you as a ‘brother’ in Allah? No, thanks. Your words are shameful, full of hatred and bigotry.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

        Islam is the way you dirty kaffir. Mindanao will soon be ours. Visayas and Luzon will be the next sacred place the army of Islam will liberate for all Muslims. Mashallah!

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Why is the Philippine panel signing an agreement on principles which do
      not conform to the principles of our Philippine Constitution?”

      Which ARTICLE and SECTION of the Philippine Constitution are you referring to as being non-conforming to these new agreements?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         Thank you for your support. Mindanao will be handed back to its ancestral people and Islam will once again dominate the Philippines. Praise be to Allah! KlLL ALL CHRISTIAN PlGS! عند رسول الله (صلي الله عليه وسلم) أي شخص يعين قائدا للجيش أو انفصال
        وقال انه حث خاصة له … يقول: وقاتلوا في سبيل الله وفي سبيل الله. محاربة
        الذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم
        المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة
        من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم
        إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال
        ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام، والطلب منهم الجزية. إذا وافقوا
        على الدفع، ويتقبل منهم وصد يديك. إذا رفضوا دفع الضرائب، وطلب المساعدة
        الله ومحاربتهم

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Not so fast Abdusalam. I still want to understand Mang Teban’s sources and the historical situation carefully.

        All I can recall is that Muslims fought off Spanish soldiers (Christian) away from their land and yet, they still got bundled up under the “slave name” called Philippines?  Correct me if I’m wrong.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         Embrace Islam and Allah will bring you enlightenment. Join the glorious Army of Islam and together we will wipe out all Christian pagan invader pigs. Salaam. ضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم
        إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال
        ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام، وا

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Allah will bring you enlightenment.”

        Can Allah enlighten me with “when” and “which” Arabic country was the first to spread the muslim religion to Mindanao?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         It is the will of Allah to convert the entire world to the faith of Islam. Kill all Pagan Christians and convert to the one and only true religion

      • Mark Suarez

        No, it is the will of your false prophet mohammed…

      • PurpleDaisy13

        That’s not what I asked…It appears Allah could not comprehend my question.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

        You have no right to question Allah you dirty kaffir! Burn in HeII PlG!

      • Crusade_r

        I would LOVE to fry you to a boiling pig oil abdusalam :)  You’re statements are terroristic!  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

         It is not Allah (God), the most gracious and most merciful, who cannot comprehend. It is Abdusalam.  Muslims, like Christians, respect God.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

        Purpledaisy, I am surprised that you are still responding to Abdusalam.  All he wants is to convert you to Islam.  No discourse needed, just be converted and you will find the answer as this guy simplistically argue.  Anyway,  ‘Abdusalam’ is a balik-Islam or new convert to Islam. Most probably not a
        Tausug, Maranao nor Maguindanaon; probably Tagalog. He tends to take an intolerant and very narrow view of Islam. 
        New converts or balik-Islam tend to be  hot-na-hot, in fact, those who have been Muslims since birth tend to distance themselves from them. As my Muslim friend will say, mga panatiko raw. 

        And to you –”Abdusalam”, your name is Arabic for servant of peace. On the contrary, what you are promoting here is violence.  Such attitude is unIslamic!  As-salaam alaykum.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

         Purple Daisy13:
        Sorry for the late reply. I write comments in PDI only on my free time. I attend to my small business to support my family.
        Regarding your question, Article II (Declaration of Principles and State Policies) Section 1 should tell you that the Philippines is a “democratic and republican State.” Where does a Bangsamoro republic earning the title of a “sub-state” fit in the terms I just stated? In my own simple way of understanding the Constitution, the country is democratic where ‘sovereignty resides in the people’ which brings to another perplexing issue – How would an Islamic autonomous region or sub-state as it is promised to have a ministerial government (which is easily understood to be a prime minister heading the ARMM unless it is again a play of words) be defined to conform to the ‘sovereignty’ of Filipinos? Is the Bangsamoro republic a different republic because it is not suited to the intent of the Constitution that there is one republican State?
        Next, Section 2 is about renouncing war..haha. Since when did the MILF or the Bangsamoro republic renounce war? We have decades-old war definitely not about your idea of the Spanish forces tried but failed to drive out the Muslims in Mindanao. The Bangsamoro or the MNLF / MILF declared war during peaceful times and during an already established Philippine independent State. So, please don’t bring back historical events no longer relevant today.
        We are proud that the Muslims were brave enough to repel attacks by the Spanish forces who were colonizing the entire country for more than 300 years. But, Aguinaldo and Bonifacio and the KKK gave us the first independence until a second colonizer took that away by paying Spain 20 million dollars. Muslims today  are like China who try to paint that they were the disadvantaged Filipinos because they were not. Muslims have Islam and with three centuries of Christianity, what can you expect of Filipinos? Naturally, we are predominantly Christian today.
        If this is a religion issue, it is also irrelevant because our Constitution recognizes freedom to choose your faith or religion. If the Bangsamoro’s demand to have autonomy would mean their own Islamic ‘state’ inside the “democratic and republican State of the Philippines, we really have a big problem.
        Section 6 tells you about the separation of church and state as “inviolable’. Tell me, should I go on to explain to you section by section on one particular Article of the Philippine Constitution (Declaration of Principles and State Policies) to convince you that the Ten-Discussion Point Agreement signed by Marvic Leonen on behalf of the Philippines has no legal framework to lean on..nothing.
        If you are not convinced, that is your choice. But, for me, it is clear that this game of peace negotiations is pretty dangerous. And, I hope that Congress takes this matter seriously..no political party lines. The sovereignty of our country is on the line here. President Noynoy must stop this NOW!

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Let’s start with section 1.

        “democratic and republican State”

        As long as the Bangsamoro republic does not run their sub-state ruled by Kings, Queens, or dictatorships, they are not violating the requirement of being a republic sub-state.

        And if the Bangsamoro republic elect leaders through a democratic process, they are aligned perfectly well as a democratic State.

        It would seem similar to the hierarchy we have at a County level (sub-state), under a State, beneath the whole United States.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    In the name of Allah the merciful Mindanao is finally ours! Insha Allah!

    عند رسول الله (صلي الله عليه وسلم) أي شخص يعين قائدا للجيش أو انفصال وقال انه حث خاصة له … يقول: وقاتلوا في سبيل الله وفي سبيل الله. محاربة الذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام، والطلب منهم الجزية. إذا وافقوا على الدفع، ويتقبل منهم وصد يديك. إذا رفضوا دفع الضرائب، وطلب المساعدة الله ومحاربتهم.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    عند رسول الله (صلي الله عليه وسلم) أي شخص يعين قائدا للجيش أو انفصال وقال انه حث خاصة له … يقول: وقاتلوا في سبيل الله وفي سبيل الله. محاربة الذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن القتال ضدهم … إذا كانوا يرفضون قبول الإسلام، والطلب منهم الجزية. إذا وافقوا على الدفع، ويتقبل منهم وصد يديك. إذا رفضوا دفع الضرائب، وطلب المساعدة الله ومحاربتهم.

    • rem1911

      لوقا 05:27. ولكن أحبوا أعداءكم، أحسنوا لهم، وتقديم لهم دون توقع الحصول على أي شيء مرة أخرى. ثم سوف يكونأجرك عظيم، وسوف يكون أبناء العلي، لأنه هو نوع من العرفان بالجميل والأشرار.الرومان 12:20. إذا عدوك جائع، فأطعمه إذا كان عطشان، يعطيه شيئا للشرب.

  • Andoy51

    I hope the new structure will help weed out murderers and the corrupt like the Ampatuan clan.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Impose Sharia Law and convert everyone to Islam. Allah will show you peace. Salaam.

      • Mark Suarez

        Your allah is god of the Moon…

  • les21reago

    Let ERAP settle the Mindanao ISSUE…
    WHY is ARRM to be replaced…Mr. Leonen and Ms. Deles SHOULD first explain this verbatim before asking support and eventual changes of laws in congress?
    Are the areas covered by ARRM to be the same or EXPANDED?
     

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

      Mindanao is for Muslims. Filipino Christian Pigs stay out. The time has come for Muslims to claim their ancestral lands. Mindanao, Visayas and Luzon belong to Muslims! Insha Allah! لذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم
      المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة
      من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم
      إلى (قبول) الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن الق

      • les21reago

        WHY not?..It sounds GOOD LUZVIMINDA to be ALL Muslims…But how many ANDERS BREVIK do you think is out there that will object to it?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

        Islam is peace. Christians are the only real Terrorists. Salaam.

      • les21reago

        La la maasala masala…Christians are our brothers…mumkin maasalama?

  • daniboy2012

    reading all the comments here …make me realize  how divisive we are…truly foreign religions, ideologies and gov’t system corrupted our minds to the core…..we lost our real culture and spirituality…lets educate ourselves and children about our race from pre-muslims and pre-christians. Our ancestors are peaceful and gentle animist.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      Austronesians

      • daniboy2012

        well done!…keep reading our true history we don’t need these foreign deceptions, lets free ourselves with all these form of slavery ..that was given to our ancestors by force. We can praise and worship the Creator and govern ourselves at our own language and culture and still be tolerant to others.  

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

       Islam is one and true religion for the Philippines and the entire world.

      • Mark Suarez

        islam is the main problem of the entire world. The root cause of terrorism..

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

         You cannot win against Allah. God willing he will punish you and your family for being devil worshipers. Mindanao will soon be ours. and then Visayas and lastly Luzon. Philippines will soon be for Muslims. Praise be to Allah. لذين كفروا في الله. جعل حرب مقدسة … عندما تقابل أعدائك الذين هم
        المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة
        من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، والامتناع عن نفسك من القيام بها أي ضرر. يدعوهم  الإسلام، وإذا ما استجابت لكم، يتقبل منهم والكف عن الق

      • Mark Suarez

        your allah is god of the moon… islam = terrorism..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YCAHU5ODWQHKJM2B5HO62CMHII Karaniwang Tao

        The problem is we keep misinterpreting the teaching of the religions, then we conclude that the religion itself is the problem. What a pity to those muslims [even christians] who properly abide to the teachings, yet they are also branded as terrorists. 

      • gerrkits

        Muslims can never win a war because they mistrust each other, they betray one another, they are not well trained because they are lazy to do hazardous and endurance training, they only kill their enemies through deceitful means, and there’s no way they can survive a face to face combat.  

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YCAHU5ODWQHKJM2B5HO62CMHII Karaniwang Tao

        it’s not the religion itself, it’s the people…

      • gerrkits

        That’s right, it’s not on the differences of faith/religion that causes trouble in our country but it’s on the barbaric characteristic  of certain tribe, for instance  their is a certain tribe in Northern Luzon who are Christianize and certain tribe in Mindanao who are Muslim yet this two tribes with different location and religion have the same  devastating characteristic,  it is normal for them to kill just to satisfy their pride. i believe that they belong to one type of tribe. 

      • daniboy2012

        My brother,  there is ONE ALLAH/GOD/YAH/BATHALA but there is no true religion…keep searching  for the truth, it will set you free. Salaam

  • PurpleDaisy13

    I’m sorry Abdusalam, it seems knowing Allah is no longer appealing anymore.

    You can’t even question Allah, and if you do you are to be burned like a pig?

    Sounds like worst than slavery. It’s imprisonment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QZZKXPEA67I7HELEIYM35QVYFA Jon

    Ayos yang gusto nyo, Chucky at Deles.
    Gawing lehitimong gobyerno ang mga terorista at kalaban ng estado.
    Syempre, yung pondong para sa pamamahala nila, alam mo naman na sa kawalanghyaan at ka-traidoran lang gagamitin.
    Kung may isang tamang ginawa si Erap, yun eh pinulbusan yang mga kriminal na yan.
    Dahas lang ang naiintindihan ng mga iyan kaya yan din ang dapat ibigay sa kanila.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

      Islam is peace. Only dirty Christian occupiers want war. Soon Visayas and Luzon will be ours

  • artgarcia

    No thanks.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/KYFIIi9p3_WltaAGb0bRzJ_gZ4i5A_mn#06b42 Abdusalam

    Soon Islam will conquer the Philippines! Praise be to Allah! Allahu Akbar!!!!! الذين هم
    المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة
    من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا، الذين هم
    المشركون، يدعوهم إلى ثلاثة مسارات للعمل. إذا كانت الاستجابة لأية واحدة
    من هذه، هل تقبل ذلك أيضا،

    • juanditamad

       wag nyo pansinis itong si Abdusalam…ako rin ay Moro pero di tulad ng pag-iisip nya. true muslim doesnt speak that is hurting to anyone. this guy is a misguided muslim just like Bin Laden!!!

    • boypalaban

      hoy pekeng Muslim…taga Sulu ako…at Maguindanao…..ikaw baka bagitong convert ka lang…umayos ka…mas bagay ka sa lugar na hawak ng Taliban,saradong pag-iisip….kaya nalilihis ang pananaw sa mga Muslim ng ibang mga Kristiyano dahil sa mga kagaya mo.boploks!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2SUTZ2THX6QUHGSIYNPXGQE5UI matrix

         @boy palaban, oo nga namamali tuloy ang pananaw ng mga kristiano sa muslim dahil sa katulad nitong tao (abdusalam), pwedeng mamuhay ng tahimik ang kristiano at muslim dahil sa mutual respect eh kung puro ang nasa isip mo ay galit at hindi unawa talagang magkakalokoloko ang sitwasyon samahan mo pa ng tulad nitong panatikong di ko alam kung tunay pang kapayapaan ang pakay.

    • antonioluna

       another religious fanatic idiot hehehe

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

      This Abdusalam has consistently posted incendiary statements like this that are divisive and dangerous. Freedom of speech has its limits; I hope the PDI moderator would block his posts in respect also to true-peace loving Muslim Filipinos. He defames the true meaning of Islam. As-salaamu alaykum.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

       ’Abdusalam’ is a balik-Islam or new convert to Islam. Not a Tausug, Maranao nor Maguindanaon; probably Tagalog siya.  No wonder!  Kaya pala he tends to take an intolerant and very narrow view of Islam.  New converts tend to hot-na-hot, in fact, those who have been Muslims since birth tend to distance themselves from the balik-Islam.

      “Abdusalam” is Arabic for servant of peace, on
      the contrary, what you promote is violence.  Such attitude is unIslamic!  As-salaam
      alaykum.

  • http://twitter.com/Negastarr NegaStarr

    Cosmetic change lang yan. They will just change the name of ARMM to a longer acronym, the way they changed the disaster relief agency to the ridiculously long acronym NDRMMCCFGHIJKLMMC.

    Si Leonen mahilig sa hairsplitting at sa theories na siya lang nakakaintindi at walang practical application at all. Kaya yung kausap nila sa panel, malamang madalas ang sabi ng “HUH? ANO YUN?”

  • rem1911

    Abdusalam : In your dreams, but even with your despicable rhetoric my message would still be :

    لوقا 05:27. ولكن أحبوا أعداءكم، أحسنوا لهم، وتقديم لهم دون توقع الحصول على أي شيء مرة أخرى. ثم سوف يكونأجرك عظيم، وسوف يكون أبناء العلي، لأنه هو نوع من العرفان بالجميل والأشرار.الرومان 12:20. إذا عدوك جائع، فأطعمه إذا كان عطشان، يعطيه شيئا للشرب.
    Luke 5:27 . But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

    Romans 12:20. If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.

  • Lolo_Basyong

    This administration is desperate to have something good to report to the people, even if it means feeding them false hopes.  How can there be an agreement when the two sides are “poles apart” on the scope of autonomy?  

  • boypalaban

    boploks ka Abdusalam…naninwala ka agad sa mga “mababango at mapalamuting mga proposal ng gobyerno”…uto-uto ka…gamitin mo utak mo boploks…pekeng Muslim ka…baka bagitong convert ka lang….ako ay lehitimong Maguindanaoan at taga Siasi,Sulu…ikaw…baka taga diyan ka lang sa tabi ng dagat sa daungan sa Zamboanga…o naka-pag-abroad ka lang sa Middle East ganyan na asta mo…nanggugulo ka lang dito…baka kunan ka ng dugo…dugo ng baboy lumabas sa yo…matulog ka na lang…pansayang ka lang ng espasyo dito…uwi ka na…magsaing ka na tanghali na…

    SORRY KA…ANDITO SI BOY PALABAN…WALANG INUURUNGAN….!

    • juanditamad

      tausug kaw bro? haunu kaw ha Sug?, ic, tau Siasi kaw tuwih yan :) salam kaimo bro.

  • Guest

    So when the government signs a peace treaty with the MILF and they now have their own autonomous government, some dissatisfied MILF members will leave and form their own separatist movement. Just like what happened to the MNLF.

    • I_kabod

       yeah. what a convenient way for them to elude the law. balak ko nga din gumawa ng paksyon para hindi makasunod sa batas hehe

      • walangdiyos

        like an autonomous region of no politician and influence peddlers.

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    bilisan na iyan
    ng buo tayong haharap sa
    tsina seagrab

    magiging malaking tulong ang
    pwersa na milf mnlf abu sayyaf atbp.
    pati na rin npa

    • Lance Garcia

      oo…tapos front liners silang lahat.. backup lang ang AFP and PNP

      • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

        kabalikat

        hindi balikatan

  • Crusade_r

    Moslems say that the only way for peace in Mindanao is for them to have and control it.  I don’t think so,  look at the places in the world that are run my mohammedans, they’re the worst places!

    • juanditamad

      wow, have you been to dubai?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

        have to been to Mindanao??

    • http://twitter.com/ronniedanesays ronnie dane s alonzo

      the worst places are run by people whose minds and ideologies are the same as yours

      • Crusade_r

        my opinion is palpable, I’d like to hear your arguments. Point out to me which countries? No need to use Ad hominem argument :)

    • boypalaban

      e yung nagpapatakbo ng utak mo…mas malala ang topak niyan…mas nakakatakot pumunta sa utak boploks gaya mo…
      sabagay baka malaysia nga lang di mo pa mapuntahan…puro ka lang haka-haka…pamboploks!

      • Crusade_r

        Kanto boy ka ano? the way you talk parang grade six ka lang ata. Bumalik ka nalang sa paglalaro ng internet games. Yes. i’ve been to malaysia, particularly sa Johor baya.

  • Guest

    Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims.

    • edleon

      I beg to disagree that all terrorists are Muslims..  What about the NPAs?  I’m a Christian but we should call a spade a spade.

    • juanditamad

      and why do you think there are Muslim terrorists?

      • rsunga

        All Filipinos, whether they be Muslims, Christians, militants, communists, leftists or rightists who uses violence as a means to  attain their goals are terrorists and criminals at the same time. They should be immediately executed once caught to clean our society of undesirables. The Philippines is already over-populated and the tax money of peace-loving Filipinos are being wasted in feeding these undesirables who are in jail right now.

      • juanditamad

         parang mas matindi ka pa kesa kay Polpot :))

      • boypalaban

        bakit di mo isama mga idol mong pulis at military, at mga pulitiko na mga abusado at nagpapahirap sa mga mamamayan?

      • Lolo_Basyong

        Because they want the whole world to be Moslem?

      • juanditamad

        mali..if you only study thoroughly the bible..Christ advocated not be attached with the material world. And if you say Anti-Christ, it pertains to people who doesn’t take heed of the teaching of Jesus which is not to attach to the material world.  Look at your surroundings who are the people who seemed to be so attached?, its the corporations, politicians, some businessmen, etc. and these are the root cause of injustices and oppression in this world. It is a fact that majority of Muslims follows Christ teachings (except the gospel of trinity). So, here comes a misguided Muslims thinks that some of these so-called Christians and Jews are the ones doing these injustices and oppression. So…they attacked the twin towers…assassinate world leaders, advocates for change of leadership thru use of force. etc. etc…but a good muslim are those exemplified by Saladin, Imam Ghazali, Rumi, Rabia Al-Adawiya, and many other muslims whom I can say.. are spiritually guided Muslims.

    • boypalaban

      yung nag-massacre sa My Lai Vietnam at sa Balangiga Samar, Muslim ba?
      yung Oklahoma bombing Muslim ba yon?
      yung mga panatiko diyan na kasama ni Ecleo Muslim din ba?
      zombie bagay sa yo pakamatay ka na…boploks ka e…halikan mo ang tuktok ng idol mo…punta ka sa Malacanang boploks…halikan kayo doon…at sipsipin mo rin baho ng puwet ni coronampatuan…at humilata ka sa paanan ng panginoon mong si ampatuan…sambahin mo siya…at buhayin mo rin si moammar khaddafi…sayaw kayo pare-pareho kayong boploks!

  • Lance Garcia

    Such action from the government is purely a product of ignorance.. After these negotiations, they (the terrorists) will be asking for more making the PH bend according to their demands.. I am from Mindanao and I know that it’s a bull to talk to those people! there shouldn’t be any negotiations between the government and terrorists.. And doing so makes the government useless and tolerant! Unless the Government officials themselves take advantage over the bogus negotiations which is entirely a different story..

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327046347 Francis Lobo

      Another terrible mistake made from the Government aside from escalating the territorial disputes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    Bangsamoro people.”   who are they??

    A Muslim substate is a Muslim substate is a Muslim substate, despite Noynoy( abnoy) trying to disguise it as an autonomous region and under national control.

    noway should the Philippines have a country within the country. two armies?/ what if they decide to go on their own.. busit ka president.. di ka nag isip  isip muna. 

    people from the whole mindanao – will not support congress they make this a law.. so what if we go to war.. damm!  we are Filipinos!

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    Abnoy and Leonen – just made the Christians from Midnanao – very Angry.. sign kayo ng sign..na di nyo naman alam ang totoong palakad doon sa Mindanao.  Muslims are not good administrators! – you id..ots!!  .. di pa ba kayo ng sawa  sa maguindanao massacre>>>???you give them the highest position.. tingnan nyo anong nangyari..  Mr. Leonen.  try going to Zambo.. – you will be a dead meat there!!

    and no Shariah law either!  gusot Shariah..law ??? then we will form the old  ILAGA group.. lets see..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    WANTED IN MINDANAO. DEAD OR ALIVE – LEONEN

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    No matter how much Noynoy and his peace officials try to disguise their unconstitutional carving up the Philippines to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), the fact is that they are on their way to creating an independent substate for the armed Muslim group.
    Reports yesterday said that the Aquino government signed a document containing the decision points on principles with the MILF, a “preliminary listing of common points” between the two parties expected to spur the eventual signing of a final peace agreement.
    In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, the Government of the Philippines (GRP) chief negotiator Marvic Leonen said the peace process “has made a major step forward with the identification and signing of the decision points on principles mutually identified by the Philippines and the MILF which provides a new level of momentum in the negotiations.”
    But look what points were agreed upon: power and resources sharing and the creation of an autonomous political entity that can replace the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM), among others.
    “The autonomous political entity envisioned is a secular political unit, existing within the Republic of the Philippines, located within its territory and subject to its sovereignty as a State,” Leonen stated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    He added that both the GRP and the MILF panels also agreed that the people should be actively engaged in “determining the role of Shariah courts and the Islamic principles of justice and fairness in the region to promote the efficient administration of justice.”
    People will determine the role of the Shariah courts and the Islamic principles of justice and fairness in the region?
    What is that if not the parties agreeing that there will be, in the MILF substate, the Muslim’s own independent judiciary, despite the Constitution not allowing such, since the Charter under which this government must govern, is for the nation to just have one single judiciary and even the Shariah courts must bow to the Philippine judiciary and cannot therefore apply in cases of crimes committed in the region, to be decided on by the Shariah court.
    Then too, why should Noynoy and his peace panel suddenly want to share power over the resources of the Philippine state to a Muslim region, even if deemed autonomous?
    This has not been practiced in the ARMM at all, and yet Noynoy is giving this power sharing of resources to the MILF? Why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

    Does this not mean that the Muslim substate will now have the power to enter into negotiated agreements with foreign governments without the necessity of a bidding, or even a judicial review of the contracts entered into by the Muslim entity? Will it now be the Shariah court that will be the judge?
    It has always been known that foreign governments — both the US and the European Union — want the country to grant the MILF a substate that is even independent of the Philippines, as they can rely on the Muslim group, under a substate, for them to exploit the resources in the country without going through the high court.
    Gloria, in her time, was pressured by these foreign governments to forge an agreement with the MILF, providing them with an independent substate. She did, and the accord was voided by the SC.
    Noynoy is no different. He is more than willing to cut off a part of the Philippine Republic and give this to the MILF, to please the US, as he relies heavily on the US for him to stay in power and position and give him the military hardware he needs, while believing that the Americans will go to war with China over the disputed islands for him.
    Listen closely to what is being said by Noynoy’s peace adviser: The GRP and the MILF have agreed to the creation of an autonomous political entity to replace the ARMM, among others.
    Why create a political entity to replace an existing autonomous entity, if not to give the MILF more Philippine land under its control, more power and more independence?
    They can try to forge an agreement but once challenged before the high court, that accord may be useless.

    • juanditamad

       bro, if you want that your opinion be heard and considered, you can interact by going to this site:  www(dot)opapp(dot)gov(dot)ph

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

        BRO.. negotiations are done.. what else can the people of Mindanao do?? aber??

      • juanditamad

        Tapos na ba?  “I hope the signed document (Decision Points on Principles)— which lays
        out the common standpoints between the GPH panel and the MILF
        panel—explains where we are and what we want to establish to politically
        resolve the decades-old armed conflict in the south,” Deles added.

  • juanditamad

    dami na naman OAs dito, eh ang mga bobo nyo naman..kahit mag apply kayo sa office ni Leonen di kayo tatanggapin dahil sa kabobohan nyo. Bakit ba di natin mahintay ang maging resulta ng negotiation saka kayo mag dada. mga lekat kayo!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

      oi tamad – mag basa ka muna sa news!  kung ano nilalaman noon! -palibhasa di ka taga mindanao..busit.

      • juanditamad

        tga Cotabato City ako bro. bwisit ka!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Rams/1826483848 James Rams

        basilan ako .bro. busit ka rin.

      • juanditamad

         you initiated it..so i just returned it to you..you’re bullshit!!!

  • Bulagas

    eto ba ang mga proyektong netong noynoying na presidente natin??? tangnang yan walang kwenta

    pwenoy INUTIL ka!! mag resign ka na

    • muddygoose

      Bakit?

      • antonioluna

         ewan ko dyan basta na lang nagalit hehehe

  • rsunga

    Our government should never talk peace with armed Muslims and Communists rebels whose real, true purpose is to establish an independent Islamic state and form a communist system of government through violence. Autonomy is out of the question and pure stupidity on the part of our government to give-in to such nonsense. They should be dealt with militarily until they are totally annihilated in an all-out war just like what Sri Lanka did to it’s rebels. Enlists and train in the Phil. Army all the unemployed squatters in Metro Manila in combatting the rebels to make them useful in our society . Without these armed terrorists and criminals, our country will prosper economically in peace and security especially the Mindanao area. And these will be a good exercise for our military to improve their military skills in urban and jungle warfare. As long as the rebels with their weapons are there, our country will never have peace and security. Only our police forces and military men in uniforms should be allowed to carry weapons. Peace-loving Muslims and atheists can live in our Catholic-dominated and democratic country in harmony as Filipinos.What our government should focus into is reclaiming our sovereignty over Sabah diplomatically because it is part of the Sultanate of Sulu and protect our sovereignty over the Spratley Islands and Panatag Shoals from being taken control by China.

    • boypalaban

      ang ganda ng logic mo…SABLAY!
      pulis ka ba o militar?
      ikaw kaya ang unang una magpa-enlist?
      masyado kang bilib sa Phil Army…bata ka ba ni Palparan Palparaos?
      isang milyon mang sundalo ipadala mo diyan sa Mindanao pero hanggat puro kurakot mga heneral diyan wala ring mangyayari…alam ko sinasabi/sinusulat ko…galing ako diyan sa Maguindanao at Sulu…tanungin mo mga sundalo diyan kung bakit mababa ang morale nila…ok?

      • rsunga

        Sa akala mo ba lahat ng mga heneral sa Philippine Army ay mga kurakot…Natural, kasama na ang mga kurakot na heneral ang dapat linisin sa AFP…Ang binabanggit ko ay ang mga matitinong sundalo ang namamahala tulad nina Trillanes, Querubin at Danilo Lim at hindi yang mga pinagsasasabi mong mga kurakot na heneral tulad ni Palparan at mga abusadong politiko at pulis na sila yata ang naging idol mo dahil panay ang banggit mo sa mga katulad nila…Hindi kita masisisi kung nagngingitngit ka sa kanila dahil nakaranas ka siguro ng pang-aabuso sa palakad nila.

    • daniboy2012

      These way of thinking is the reason why we have a never-ending rebellion, our leaders, intellectuals,scholars or even ordinary citizen must never stop in engaging  in a sincere dialogue. Annihilation! have you been in war?…haven’t the military tried that approach for decades and still they have not defeated the rebels. There will never be peace on a Catholic-dominated  democrazy gov’t. cause this foreign religion not only  enslave our parents  for centuries but  decieve and lies in the name of religion. What I am trying to say here is, we are all equals with different beliefs and none is better than the other . Remember what happen to Andres Bonifacio…once they killed him the KKK we’re divided and lost….learn from our history my brothers and sisters….if we set aside our religions, ideologies and our own selfish motives…..our people, our land, our country will be one the greatest nation on the planet. Now lets us  unite with our leaders and confront our new enemy…..they are on our waters and they don’t believe in the rule of law…he’s a giant with enormous appetite and want to take our natural resources…this  resources will release us  on bondage of  oil….FILI(chosen) PINO(finest) this is our  time!  LETS UNITE!!!

      • rsunga

        It’s the other way around brother. The reason why the Muslim & communist rebellion in our country has never ended ever since communist ideology and Islamic fanaticism started in our country is because the all-out war by the AFP & police forces is always hindered & prevented every time the government enters into peace dialogues with the hard-core rebels  Many of our peaceful Muslim brothers & sisters have been brain-washed by these hardened muslim fanatics who thinks that Islam is the true religion and the way of life that all people must follow. They always forget to think that Allah to Muslims and God to Christians are one and the same and it doesn’t matter whether you follow the teachings of Muhammad or Jesus Christ in praising God or Allah. So what! as long as you believe in the same God or Allah and not to Buddha or any other pagan idol. These fanatics always try to convince you that there are many and big differences between Islam and Christianity so you must follow the Islamic way to be sure you will go to heaven. The remaining communist rebels of Sison on the other hand are already weak and engage the government more on militant & leftist rallies and demonstrations.  The problem is that they are mixed with so-callled communists who are  actually engaged more on extortion, kidnapping, ransom, arson and other criminal & terrorist activities.

      • daniboy2012

        my brother …the sun shines even to the evil ones…this fanatics and extremist  you called, are our misguided brothers and sisters…what I’m  trying to say is to engage them in a dialogue, debate and convince them ..war is not the solutions…I  maybe naive but I truly believe we can attain this  elusive peace, if we sit down and start talking and not by killing each other.

  • gerrkits

    Non Muslim in Mindanao should unite and decide for their own fate, their fate should not be decided by the PH Gov’t who are ignorant of the real situation in Mindanao, if it is necessary for us to  form our own and  a separate state then so be it, it’s the only way we can protect our selves from irrational muslims.

  • Fulpol

    masaya na ang Amerika… may freedom na ang Basangmoro para maki-tie up sa Amerika para i-exploit ang oil rich Southern Mindanao..

    bad trip ang China kaya ayun, invaded na nila ang Scarborough Shoal kasi mawawalan sila at ang Amerika, ang makikinabang…hahahahahahahahahah

  • Fulpol

    mga Igorot sa Cordillera, magsarili na.. mga ibang taga-Mindanao na hindi bahagi ng Basangmoro, magsarili na rin…

    mga Ilokano sa Northern Luzon, magsarili na rin..

    hahaa
    haaha
    hahahah

    • Palparan

      bakit? wala na bang babae sa mga lugar na yun?

  • maximus_meridius

    Isn’t this important matter for Congress to decide?  Why would Abnoy collaborate with MILF in making this important decision when the MILF is not a recognized legitimate entity?  This boy scout administration of Abnoy is at it again.  Do we have to bear this inept, incompetent and inutile leadership of Abnoy and his cohorts for the next 4 years? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

    Mr. Leonen and Ms. Deles, the MILF does not represent the Moro people.  Why negotiate with them alone?  Is it because they are armed? How about including the unarmed Moro people’s organizations, and other stakeholders in Mindanao to get a much broader representation? Why reduce it to a singular group like the MILF?  Kindly get this into your head [Deles and Leonen]–the MILF does not represent the Moro people.  This is like throwing the future of the Moro people to the dogs.

    • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

      I agree. A Muslim Filipino family once lived next door to me. And they were no different to the Christians, to the Protestants, and to the irreligious young generation of Filipinos. They were no different to the Bisaya, the Bicolano, the Ilocano and all else living in the place. I never saw anything that differentiated them from me.

      Ibig sabihin, nasa mga namumuno lang iyan.

    • JuanCitizen

      I agree too. I have always been saying this. The MILF does not represent the sentiment of the Moro people. It certainly does not represent my views. So quit negotiating with this small ragtag group!

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Give amnesty to rebels. Deliver free and honest elections. Let people determine their leaders. That is the road to peace.

    Recognizing the warlords. You need the people you go through the warlords. When there is problem you must first talk to the warlords. You cannot do anything without warlords approval.
    Maybe you can have a picture taking with the warlords and tell the world everything is under control. They are actually prolonging and perpetuating the problem in southern Philippines.

    Secessionist rebels do not see themselves as Filipinos. And there should be no room for any alien commission between Philippine government and the Filipino people, its people.

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    People think government is better without defectives like Leonen and Deles.

    Allow the police to address police matters and let the army address simple rebellion. How about looking to the day when Filipinos becomes one people, one nation. One people respecting each other’s religion and color of skin. Ibig sabihin organs like ARMM are actually burloloy, thus dissolved when that happens. Organs like ARMM should be viewed as tactical and provisional.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFDQQH2M3OD6ZGBJNJ34UZHIV4 Enrico

    Pinagbigyan ang MNLF, lumaki bigla ang MILF, ito naman ang pagbibigyan, lilipat na naman ang mga yan sa isa pa nilang hiwalay na grupo at babalik na nman yan sa umpisa. Wala nang katapusan pag laging napagbibigyan. Ipatupad ang batas laban sa mga rebelde. Ubusin kung kinakailangan tulad ng ginawa ng Sri Lanka sa mga rebelde nila. Wag benebeybi at lalong tumitigas ang ulo. Wag pansinin ang HR na isa ring sa mga pampagulo.

  • kajaime

    time to amend the constitution and go for federalism. let regional development be the core of management in the phl. enough of imperial luzon and manila which controls the national government most of the time. surveys should focus on regional sentiments rather than national sentiments. leonen and deles are good people whose dedication and commitment to finding realistic solutions of the present economic, religious and political problems in mindanao…

  • comvalboy

    pusang iring ba’t binura agad ng administrator ang bago kong pinost!

  • ARRANCAR

    has no one ask what will happen when ARMM is dissolved since ARMM was created for the MNLF benefit excluding the MILF since it was a breakaway arm rebels from MNLF? what will be the concensus of the MNLF people who had legitimately a member of the OIC. Did leonen thought about the welfare and the state of mind or views by the MNLF about dissolving ARMM?

    • $23601969

       I know tausugs and Maguindanaoansand I’ll get their view to resolve this.  Can you get what they might have in mind?  Nagkakahiyaan kasi o umiiwas mk-offend kaya wala nagsasalita.  Autonomous Provinces eto na ang Leader Maranao???? o Ung hindi Bias sa 2

  • juanditamad

    lets give peace a chance to the Moros in Mindanao, if the so-called MILF-version of autonomy will still fail, then  we might just consider petitioning the Malaysians to rule over us or absorbed us to their federation. Sultan Kiram of Sulu and those of Lanao and Maguindanao could even run as Yang di-Pertuan Agong, as King or federal head of state of Malaysia for 5 years. By doing so, we have the chance to become prosperous, while you.. our Filipino brothers…will still be engrossed with Philippine politics which is corrupt and your people will always have that difficulty to recover from poverty and misery.

  • ARRANCAR

    in my view once ARMM is dissolve the MNLF will protest such action by the government for not asking their views about dissolving ARMM since they are recognize by the OIC as a representative of the Bangsamoro people not the MILF? did leonen consider this problem as to how will the MNLF react such provocative act against their rights?? hmmm this will never resolve the problem of mindanao MNLF and MILF will surely fight each other for territory again……..

    • juanditamad

      as long as there is no hidden force that will make the two factions collide head-on together, there will be no problem. The MNLF and MILF with supervision and political will from both Malaysia and Malacanang, the Moros, Christians and Lumads could collaborate on how to effectively run the Bangsamoro Autonomy. Of course and unless if third party don’t want peace to happen in Mindanao.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7Z7T6SC4KK3A3332DMPMFVWFM Abnoynoy

    binebenta na tayo ni abnoy sa mga taga MILF, pumatay na nga ng marines, bibigyan pa ng teritoryo. abnoy talaga

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    There will never be peace as long as there are double standards for Filipinos. Eventually there shall only be same standards for all Filipinos. Divide and rule laru ng mga politiko iyan but at whose expense?

  • nikmatik

    di ba kelangan ng amendment ng constitution yan?

  • ARRANCAR

    we want peace for mindanao but as i have said dissolving ARMM for reason only to benefit or give some leeway for the MILF demands not asking first the MNLF since ARMM was created for them to administer and govern the ARMM region with the MNLF renouncing arm conflict against the government for self governing region. have they ask the MNLF what their views and comment before entering such an agreement with the MILF regarding dissolution of ARMM?

    • $23601969

       Seems the only solution is divide into 2 regions just to achieve this peace.  Layo na narating para koontig bagay na lang hindi maiaadjust.

  • ARRANCAR

    its so easy to make an agreement to a single benefactor (MILF) but excluding from the talks the MNLF group what will the MNLF say once the ARMM is dissolve will they agree on this agreement and lose their control and status as the legitimate only representative and member of the OIC?? 

  • ARRANCAR

    this peace panels only talks about the MILF group demands and benefits but no comment or subject matter about the MNLF group. 

    • $23601969

       How is relationships among tausugs, maguindanaoans, and maranaos?  Some say they can’t meet eye-to-eye?  Is this true or a special case only?

      • boypalaban

        special case lang po yan…

  • daniboy2012

    Let us not allow this opportunity of peace in mindanao to slip again!….our muslim brothers have suffered enough so with the christians and nomads…what is wrong with us..the singaporeans and malaysians have different faiths but live each other with so much tolerance and respect. Let our voice be one…no more war among us!!!

    • boypalaban

      tama ka. sa singapore, apat na majority na lahi/grupo nabubuhay nang maayos…
      dito sa pilipinas kasi daming gahaman…daming mapang-abuso kaya dami naghahanap ng katarungan sa marahas na paraan.

  • ARRANCAR

    one cannot exclude the MNLF from ARMM since they are the ones who demanded such autonomy for them to self govern their respective regions, dissolving ARMM will be a slap on the face for the MNLF and insult for their decades of arm conflict between the MNLF group and government forces with final lasting peace agreement thus ARMM was created for that purpose and intent for peace in mindanao.

  • JuanCrisostomoIbarra

     Replace ARMM??? I guess no replacement is better than having ARMM replaced. Look at the current situation in that region, and you will see that this group (MILF/MNLF) have never achieved their promise to their mindanaoan brothers. Umunlad ba ang ARMM? No. Marami ba ang mahirap sa ARMM? Yes. See, they want a substate, an autonomy yet they can not stand on their own feet. Dismantle ARMM and let each provinces in that region exist as any other provinces in the country.

  • ARRANCAR

    as per report from this newspaper the only reason why this government will be dissolving ARMM is for the MILF group only excluding the MNLF from this agreement signed by this peace panels it did not say or mention about the MNLF role on this to be dissolve ARMM…..

  • ARRANCAR

    once the government dissolve ARMM without the consent or agreement to the MNLF this group will once again take up arms against the government the cycle will once again bring the mindanao into conflict with the MNLF group and the OIC will support the MNLF since they where never consulted or told what will be their role on the soon to be dissolve ARMM without clear plans and agreement between MNLF and government. 

  • ARRANCAR

    the OIC only recognize the MNLF group as the only true representative for the bangsamoro people no other organization are recognize by OIC  not even the MILF they are excluded nor admitted in the OIC meeting or member in their organization.

  • ARRANCAR

    have this peace panel thought about the MNLF group situation on this matter? I want peace for mindanao but this thorny insights and subject about the bigger group MNLF must be dealt with first before any agreement be made with the MILF the cycle of violence will once again bring disenchantment and lost hope of peace be in the doorstep of the mindanao region.

  • neverwint3r

    if the milf is truly sincere about peace, then they should lay down their arms. hinde yung me private army sila meron pa silang mga kampo at teritoryong inookupa. tapos pag nadaaan marines dun inaambush nila and then brutally behead them. sa kanila rin naman nanggagaling yung mga bandido at pirata at abu sayaff. di naman nila dinidisiplina mga sundalo nila.

    hwag sana magpaloko gobyerno sa mga muslim na yan.ang mahirap pa dyan as an autonomous entity meron silang sariling budget(at least 10 billion) na funded ng gobyerno and taxpayers. these muslims do not allow the national government to audit/monitor how they spend it. but judging from the huge cache of weaponry these milf posses, you know how these people are spending those funds. we ‘re paying them to fight us.

    • boypalaban

      bakit puro ka banat sa Muslim,bakit di mo sabihing rebelde? daming matitino na Muslim, nadadamay sa ginagawa mong pag-label….
      para ka na ring lumevel doon sa mga wala rin sa ayos na makakita lang ng cross na nakasabit/nakakwintas, sasabihan na ng baboy….

      • casaysay

        maling-mali ka at tama ang minamali mong kababayan. hindi mo kasi alam na ang primary na pinaglalaban ng mga muslims, matino man o rebelde, ay ang kanilang kasarinlan bilang muslims. iyan ay nangyayari sa lahat ng panig ng mundo. at ang dahilan ay dahil sa ang lahat ng muslims ay kumikilala lamang sa Islam bilang nag-iisang simbolo ng pagkakaisa ng lahat ng muslims. ang kalaban ng isang rebeldeng muslim ay kalaban ng lahat, iyan ang banal na turo. walang itinuturo sa muslim na pagmamahal sa bayan, tanging pagmamahal lamang sa Islam.   

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    nuong mang giyera ang MNLF = ARMM

    nang mang giyera ang MILF = another entity?

    another Bangsamoro people makigiyera rin = another entity?

    soon to be created another group kung hindi magustuhan ang bagong entity = another entity….

    yan ang gobyerno….NAPAKA HINA!!!

    no wonder, tayo lang ang binubully ng China…hindi makapalag sa Taiwan, Vietnam, Thailand, Brunei, etc…tsk tsk tsk

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    I hope there wont be stupidity by Deles again like the 5 million doleout to Bangsamoro rebels. Kay PGMA na kung kay PGMA idea but she should have advised the new administration against it. Amoy Treason iyon at kung hindi niya naamoy may depekto ang kanyang pangamoy.

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    ARMM is the best that Philippine government has COMPROMISED the Filipino nation to the rebels. What is better than ARMM that Moro nation [Bangsamoro] is talking about?

    And maybe Sec Leonen and Sec Deles should also check Bagsamoro dictionary. For example their definition of “peace” might be “Bangsamoro independence” or “ceasefire”.

  • randyaltarejos

    But the problem here is that we never know if the MILF is really serious in attaining peace in that part of Mindanao? I could feel that the MILF is asking a lot of concessions from the government, which to me, makes the peace negotiation a circuitous process. Every time, the MILF will come up with something new. Isn’t this a delaying tactic to stall the peace process? Hope not.

  • randyaltarejos

    If the government feels that there is no positive outcome in this peace process, perhaps, it has no other option but to assert its rights over those MILF territories and declare them as ordinary insurgents.

  • sasama

    …different name, same rotten people….this army is a bunch of crooks and criminals…

  • sasama

    …different name, same rotten people and army…….

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/W5tPNPQZrIVqkllXlGGuzwTo4c1Q0BtA#b612d Abdusalam

      Mindanao is only for Muslims! Christian pigs out now! Visayas and Luzon will soon be ours! Salaam. قال الله تعالى: “نبي يجب ذبح قبل جمع الاسرى. والدافع لذبح العدو من الأرض. محمد، كنت مشتهى رغبات هذا العالم، وبضائعها والاسرى فدية جلب. ولكن الله قتلهم يرغب في إظهار الدين

  • Cerise David

    Why?  This government is not competent to handle the ARMM problem.

    • francoalminolibre

      the office of the president wants to govern everybody. they even want to play trip to jerusalem with the supreme court justices. how much more the armm community?

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    remember…nuon MNLF lang led by Misuari…we created ARMM…then, kumalas si Murad and established the  MILF…ngaun, BAGONG ENTITY for the MILF/???…kumalas si UMBRA KATO and established another armed group, the BANGSAMORO ARMY…WHICH HINDI PAPANSININ ITONG BAGONG ENTITY….another problem in the making….hindi makipagnegosasyon na naman ang gobyerno kay KATO…UUBUSIN NA YATA NITONG MINORITY group ang pilipinas…napaka hina ng gobyerno…kay liit na pwersa hindi matalo talo…no wonder andiyan ang tsina nang bubully…

    at saan ka makakita, kalaban ng gobyerno bibigyan ng 5 million???

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/W5tPNPQZrIVqkllXlGGuzwTo4c1Q0BtA#b612d Abdusalam

      Allah will punish you for opposing Muslims. Kill all Christian Pigs! Salaam! قال الله تعالى: “نبي يجب ذبح قبل جمع الاسرى. والدافع لذبح العدو من الأرض. محمد، كنت مشتهى رغبات هذا العالم، وبضائعها والاسرى فدية جلب. ولكن الله قتلهم يرغب في إظهار الدينقال الله تعالى: “نبي يجب ذبح قبل جمع الاسرى. والدافع لذبح العدو من الأرض. محمد، كنت مشتهى رغبات هذا العالم، وبضائعها والاسرى فدية جلب. ولكن الله قتلهم يرغب في إظهار الدين

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        muslims are stanists…that is a fact!!!!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        you bunch of idiots are terrorists!!!who wants and loves to kill…that’s the working of stan…

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/W5tPNPQZrIVqkllXlGGuzwTo4c1Q0BtA#b612d Abdusalam

     Bismillah! Islam is the answer. All Christian pigs will burn in heII for refusing to submit to Allah. This is just the beginning! Muslims will take back all that has been taken away from them. Mindanao, Visayas, Luzon will soon embrace Islam. Salaam! قال الله تعالى: “نبي يجب ذبح قبل جمع الاسرى. والدافع لذبح العدو من الأرض. محمد، كنت مشتهى رغبات هذا العالم، وبضائعها والاسرى فدية جلب. ولكن الله قتلهم يرغب في إظهار الدين

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      in your dreams….hahaha

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      Allah isn’t God, much less the God of all different people.
      Allah was a rock idol in Mecca–one of several hundred. Allah wasn’t even
      Muhammad’s first god–that was Ar-Rahman–the Hanif rock idol. The character
      attributed to Allah by Muhammad in the Qur’an is a perfect match for the
      character attributed to Muhammad in the Hadith. In other words, Muhammad made
      Allah in his own image. And that image is evil.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      From Quran  Surah 2:

      The
      Cow 

      Don’t bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded
      them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 6

      Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs
      because they lie. 10

      A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is
      men and stones. 24

      Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 39, 90

      For disbelievers is a painful doom. 104

      For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in
      the next. 114

      Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but
      then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 126

      The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 162

      They will not emerge from the Fire. 167

      Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten
      with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 174

      How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 175

      Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack
      you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 191

      War is ordained by Allah. 216

      Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the
      Fire. 217

      Disbelievers worship false gods. They will burn forever in
      the Fire. 257

      Allah does not guide disbelievers. 264

      “Give us victory over the disbelieving folk.” 286

      HENCE, WE ARE DEALING WITH MURDERERS..QURAN IS THE HEART OF THEIR TEACHINGS..IT IS VERY EVIDENT THAT IN THEIR QURAN BOOK OF SURA, ALL THEY WANT ARE BLOOD OF UNBELIEVERS…the government is doing a mistake…wake up sec leonen…..

      LOOK AT THIS ABDUSALAM…MAKING THREATS ALREADY…kahit meron nang bagong entity, they will never stop terrorizing people…THAT IS FOR SURE!!! 

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      you muslims are burning in he<<l…why we should submit…it is very evident that you worship stan…

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    Literally, Islam IS the Stan’s religion.

     

    The Hebrew word for Lucifer in Isaiah 12:14 is “Hilal
    ben Sahar” Hilal also means “the brightness” and in
    Aramaic/Arabic it means “crescent moon”.

     

    “Hilal” means “The shining one” in
    Hebrew and Arabic and in

    Ethiopian it means “Moon Crescent”. Allah is a
    Moon God.

     

    Stan is also an angel of the light (2 Cor. 11:14) –
    Gabriel appreared to Mohommed as an angel of the light

    Star and crescent – symbols of Pagan Babylon and Rome.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      hence…why worship stan…look at these muslims…they are terrorists!!!!!!

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/W5tPNPQZrIVqkllXlGGuzwTo4c1Q0BtA#b612d Abdusalam

         Islam is the way. Christian pigs burn in HeII! Asalamu Alaikum!

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      Curiously the Babylonians and Romans both worshipped Baal.
      Romans even had a star and crescent on their coins.

      Baal in the bible is no other than stan…

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/W5tPNPQZrIVqkllXlGGuzwTo4c1Q0BtA#b612d Abdusalam

    Sharia Law is the future of the Philippines. Embrace Islam now!



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