China offers praise, friendship for North Korea


Beijing – China’s top diplomat has praised the leadership of North Korea and vowed closer ties despite an international outcry over the isolated state’s recent missile launch.

Dai Bingguo, who is China’s most senior official on foreign policy, made the comments Sunday in a meeting in Beijing with Kim Yong-Il, a visiting top official with North Korea’s ruling Korean Workers’ Party.

The meeting follows the April 13 launch of what Pyongyang says was a communications satellite, but which the United States has called a disguised ballistic missile test. It said the rocket disintegrated minutes after launch.

The United States and other critics have said the launch violated UN restrictions imposed on North Korea. The UN Security Council strongly condemned it and said it would tighten existing sanctions.

But Dai had warm words for the leadership of Kim Jong-Un, who took the reins of the poor and isolated state after the December death of his father, longtime supreme leader Kim Jong-Il.

Dai told Kim Yong-Il that Beijing would work with Pyongyang to “push friendly and cooperative China-North Korean relations to a new level”, a statement released late Sunday by China’s foreign ministry said.

“Under the leadership of Korean Workers’ Party First Secretary, comrade Kim Jong-Un, the North Korean Party, government and people will certainly make new achievements in the cause of building a strong and prosperous country,” Dai was quoting as saying.

China is North Korea’s sole major ally and source of economic support. However, it also voiced misgivings over its neighbour’s defiant rocket launch.

The State Department said Friday that it had raised with China allegations that Beijing supplied North Korea with technology for its missile program.

The allegations were made last week by US Congressman Mike Turner, who cited an expert as saying a new missile launcher unveiled in a Pyongyang military parade was likely based on a Chinese design.

North Korea has defiantly pledged to follow up the missile launch with further tests.

A South Korean newspaper, quoting government sources in Seoul, reported Saturday that North Korea also may be preparing for its third nuclear test, possibly within two weeks.

China’s Communist Party said Kim Yong-Il was still in Beijing on Monday but would provide no details on how long his visit would last.

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  • Lucky Luciano

    Birds of the same feather…… most probably have the same mother


  • PHtaxpayer

    Filipino’s should try to understand geopolitics and not base their feelings on their upbringing or education so that they can understand what is best for our national interests and not get stupid by propaganda.

    “There are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests”, a wise old British diplomat once said, when the British empire was still strong.

    PH and US love to talk about relationships but they also try to hide the issues.  Issues are more important because they affect national development and security.  You cannot have one without the other.

    Eg. in the PH, our development was reversed when our national security was threatened during the Marcos years.  Marcos told the public he was declaring martial law to protect the country from falling to communism because Plaza Miranda was bombed by communist subversives.  Turns out this was not true because Marcos and the US were in cahoots to rob the Filipino people of our sovereignty.  

    The PH was a major staging base for US imperialism in Vietnam from 1954-1975 then in Pakistan and Afghanistan covertly supporting radical Islamic extremists from 1979-1989.

    Today, the PH govt is telling us we need the American military to protect us our national security.   But history says they endangered our national security by supporting the Marcos dictatorship and supporting future terrorists who were going to support our local Muslim separatist movement.

    Then there is the issues about our natural resources – who controls them?  How much do we get for mutli-nationals to drill and mine our oil, gold and other precious minerals?  

    Take the case of the oil fields in Malampaya near Palawan…out of all the oil taken out from there, the national govt and the province of Palawan only get 10%!!!  Pilipinas Shell gets 45% and US company Chevron-Taxaco gets 45%.

    Now, Pacquiao won’t fight Mayweather for a 30/70 split but why does the PH govt accept a 10/90 split??!

    • Ian Patriarca

       sorry, you lost me.

      • PHtaxpayer

        Sorry, the reason why China is protecting NK is the same as in 1950 when the US Army invaded NK up to China’s border.  

        As far as China is concerned, NK is a buffer for US military presence.  NK’s interests are the unification of the Korean peninsula and the end of foreign domination.

        As far as the US is concerned, PH is a buffer for Chinese military presence in the South China Sea.

        Our national interest should be the end of foreign domination…case in point:  for every oil field in the Spratley’s, as with the Malampaya oil field contract, foreigners get 90% of the oil produced, while the national govt and the province of Palawan fight for the balance.

        In Saudi Arabia, its at least 50/50 or more for the Saudi’s.  For Venezuela and Iran, almost 100% of their oil production goes into the national coffers.

        The Spratley’s are said to contain over $20 Trillion of oil, conservatively and as high as $300 Trillion.  The US will only give us 10% commission if we allow them to take what’s on our side.  If we refuse, they will destabilize our govt until they get a PH President that will accept their terms.

        This is the geopolitical issues we are facing, not about Chinese-PH conflict for sea shells and shark fins.

      • generalproblem

        ang gulo mo para kang propeta hahahah

      • PHtaxpayer

        ka simple lang ang mundo mo, no?  hahaha

    • Pinoy_Reich

      The 10/90 split in oil revenue because unlike Saudi Arabia’s oil wells which seem to last forever our oil field will dry up in just a couple of years. Investors need to recoup their ROI in per-calculated time frame.  It’s not the Philippine’s tax payer’s money who put up the bill to explore, map, construct and maintain oil platforms but the investors such as Shell and Chevron. A drill ship cost about $500 million, deep offshore rig about $400 million not including the money spent on exploration and analysis. Also, its not crude oil that is being pumped there its natural gas which is much less profitable compared to the former. Most of the gas extracted is not even enough to fill the requirement of the Philippines demand which means the gas are sold back to us at a price less profitable. There’s also this fact, that there’s a glut of natural gas in the world market.

      • PHtaxpayer

        “couple of years”??  the Malampaya well has been producing for 10 years and they see at least another 10 years it will last.  

        I know it costs a lot to drill but how come its only US companies when there are many other European, Canadian and Asian oil drilling and exploration companies?  Does the US have a monopoly on our oil industry and territory?  Is there a bidding process?  

        I read the PH has the 2nd largest shipbuilding industry because of Hanjin Industries in Subic.  Why aren’t we developing our own ship building industry?

        Our whole national growth and development strategy is based on foreign imports and open markets instead of protecting local industries and developing our export industry.  

        These are the issues we should be discussing, like how to develop our oil fields and industries, not about depending on US military to protect our sovereignty from China.  We can manufacture our own weapons, equipment and hardware to reduce this dependency.  

        Whatever it is, we should be wracking our brains on how to become independent, not more dependent.

      • Pinoy_Reich

        Yes sir, I’m with you in terms of developing in those areas but see, must of our taipans prefer to invest instead in mainland China which is much profitable to do so while they’re content with building malls, condos, hotels and other profit oriented business without even a sense of patriotism to a country where they got lucky and strike their riches. They maybe born in the Philippines, raise and toil here but their hearts is in China.

        For a country militarily weak as our, Canadians, Russians and other Asian oil drillers have no peace of mind for the protection of their investment, unlike the US ones who are quite confident considering US fleets and forces can come and go as they like in our territory, all they would do is raise Old Glory in their warships deck.

        Its not the US faults why we are sooooooo dependent on their interest for the support of our own ambition. The fault lies in our elected officials, nationalist and our society who seems to put a price tag in our nationalism and sovereignty. They had their head up in the clouds thinking the world is populated with other nation that are civilized human being. That nations would rather sit on a table and talk to solve disputes without realizing nations resort to talking when it is clear that both have the means to slaughter themselves with equal impunity and destruction to both sides.

        Philippines should start eating grass to defend our patrimony. If we can’t or won’t then let’s stop yapping and howling how the China and the US keeps raping us geopolitical. Just like what they said in the past, let the strong like China do what it could and the weak like us suffer what we must…we have only ourselves to blame.

      • PHtaxpayer

        I have to agree with most of what you say except the last part because you have to “yap and howl” if you want to have a healthy democracy – it’s called “public debate”.  Politicians must be held accountable and listen to public opinion but at the same time, the public has a responsibility to discern fact from propaganda.

        People should not take what they read in the papers or Tv as fact or the truth because most of the time, it is just propaganda.  We should talk about issues, local and foreign policy, and national interest, not only about personalities or relationships. 

        It’s a complex world and we should not oversimplify the issues so that we can make a quick decision and move on.  We should look at the history and other countries on how they solved problems that are similar to ours.  We should investigate the facts and share it with our kababayan instead of insult each other personally like calling each other leftists vs. rightists.  Democracy is a long process and it will only succeed when the majority or at least most of the public, have a say in how govt policy is made.

      • Pinoy_Reich

        By the way, Royal Dutch Shell, the ones that runs the gas fields in Malampaya, it’s main headquarters is in The Hague, Neatherlands. Forum Exploration plc is actually a  UK based gas and oil E&P companies while Otto Energy Ltd that will drill a well in Cinco (SC 55) is an Australian firm.

        There is no US monopoly in our gas fields as you see but clearly there’s no state-owned Chinese drilling companies currently operating in the Philippines either.

      • PHtaxpayer

        Ah ok.  How come we cannot be like Vietnam that opened PetroVietnam a wholly owned company owned by the the central govt that does all the production , exploration, etc?

        How come Vietnam can do it but we can’t?  Vietnam produces about 850,000 barrel of oil a day.  Why can’t we?  What is really stopping us?

      • Pinoy_Reich

        Because why would we gamble on building ourselves say five (5) $500 million worth rigs on oil wells that wont last more than say a decade when we can form partnership with an already establish oil companies to extract the oil for us for a fee with no sweat and less worries it might get blown away by typhoons etc. $500 million will go a long way in providing basic services to our people.

        Also, we have a Civil Service Commission to make sure every state-owned corporations in the Philippines will be infested with government employees who’s efficiency is 99% less than the amount they received in their paychecks and perk, unlike those in Vietnam or China’s state-owned corporation whose corrupt director might end up in a firing squad.

      • PHtaxpayer

        Yes but one rig like the Malampaya can produce $5B a year.  Doesn’t make sense to not invest $500M or give foreigners 90% of the revenues.

        I think it is because of the corruption and kickbacks that it is easier to sell-out to the foreigners instead of keeping it for the Filipino people.  It’s typical Pinoy short-cut method instead of hard-work and long term investment values that some pinoys (chinoys?) have.

        if the Vietnamese, Venezuelans and Iranians develop their own oil industry i don’t see why we can’t, unless we lack the political will because it is, like you said, convenient and expedient to let the multi-nationals do it for us.

        So we end up dependent.

        This is the crux of the problem, this attitude of neo-colonialism we have which is keeping us poor and third world while our Asian neighbors have passed us by.  

      • Pinoy_Reich

        There’s no argument it would be a sound investment alright but then again you have to remember our country is mired in foreign debt and totally bankrupt from the time our economy under Marcos begun a steady steep nose dive. We got a huge debt and less income at that time, where would you get the money to start things rolling in our oil exploration and drilling projects? Also, you we have to remember in 1998 when the Malampaya project started we just came out gasping from the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

      • PHtaxpayer

        “mired in foreign debt”?  I don’t think so.

        From the Dept of Finance:  Current debt-to-GDP ratio is only 50.9% the lowest in 13 years.  GDP growing at 4-6%.  “The Philippines currently enjoys its highest credit rating at one notch below investment grade from Fitch Ratings, whereas Standard & Poor’s Rating Services and Moody’s Investors Service rate it two notches below.”

        In comparison, Greece debt to GDP is 127% while the US debt to GDP is more than 100% – that is bankrupt!  But they keep printing money and force everyone else to use the dollar but that’s another issue.

        So you cannot use the argument we have too much foreign debt and are bankrupt.  My point is, I don’t see why we can develop our own oil industry and there has to be some foreign conspiracy behind it.


      • Pinoy_Reich

        Well, we’re talking about the Malampaya project which started in 1998, back then the figures are not as rosy as what you have just posted above. We are in dire need to solve our energy crisis back then and the Malampaya, gas to power project was looked at as one of the long term solution to it. But there’s a possibility that someone pocketed something that results in us being shortchanged in the oil revenue, after all this is THE PHILIPPINES.

        Even now with that current debt ratio you’re citing above we still need investors, outside money to invest in our PPP’s and BOT’s to start things rolling in our major infrastructures instead of us building those projects if you think we got the money, why is that?

        Because we got the money alright but we need to borrow it, we don’t have it like gold deposited in a bank’s vault. Its our credit that increase not our assets that’s the sad fact in this so called economic figures.

        Investors, credit houses are like gangs of scheming thugs out to rip us off right in our noses and with our full consent. Pray tell why would they borrow us some money to help us exploit our own resources when they can earn more profit by putting their money instead in some multinational company to do the drilling and extraction at a profit 3x more than the interest we can pay them from our loans? Such is the way business works in the world wide scale.

      • PHtaxpayer

        Ok I totally agree with you!  I hope people like in this forum will start to discuss issues like these so the govt will be compelled to pay more attention to solving these issue instead of politicking.  

        The PH is poor but we can be great – I know we can.  We have the population, a young dynamic and educated people, unfortunately brainwashed with western propaganda which floods our TV and mass media.  Most are only interested in consumerism and entertainment.  We have the natural resources and our geography makes it relatively easy to defend our territory and we are in the best location to take advantage of global trade.  The seas are the key – control our seas and we will be a first-class nation.

        I think it is the militants leftists and radicals are the few who are interested in really discussing the issues because they feel it in their bellies and their lives more than the rich kids and middle class.  But it really shouldn’t matter what social or economic class we come from – PH independence is a basic goal if you want to become a modern society.  Govt policy is very important but it is the masa who must move us towards that goal – it first begins with searching for the truth.
        Very nice discussion with you.  Thanks!

  • patriotic_act

    NoKor will be China’s “front line” armed wing, as the chinese wont risk their soldiers and will use NoKor men first when they decide to invade our country

    • Lucky Luciano

      Invade Taiwan First.
      Iyan din ang reason kaya hindi basta pwedeng ibigay nalang yung Panatag island sa Cheena, para na rin tayong sumang-ayon na pwede nilang i-claim ang Taiwan dahil pasok  ito sa area na kinakamkam nila. Lalabas na nangiwan tayo sa ere.

  • just

    Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are…

    • Bayan Muna


  • dennis

    How can the US count China´s word if there is a proof about “How Deep is their Love”

  • Bayan Muna


    • generalproblem

      langhiya mga intsik pala ang bayan muna hahahahaha mga supot baho nyo puro kayo kupal. patay tayo dyan pag dumami ang lahi ni bayan muna dadami ang langaw sa pinas…

  • generalproblem

    actually takot ang china sa northj korea dahil baka tirahin din sila ng nuclear weapons nito million na intsik ang mamaalam sa mundo kaya inuuto nila ang nortj koreans. isa pang dahilan kaya ayaw nilang bitawan ang north korea dahil ayaw nila na maging isa ang north at south dahil magiging powerfull ang join korea at dina pwede magmalaki ang china.

  • oozingkev

    simulan na ang digmaan!!

  • thrustreverser

    “China is North Korea’s sole major ally and source of economic support. However, it also voiced misgivings over its neighbour’s defiant rocket launch.”
    -yet China is a member of the UN security council. I don’t get it, very deceitful!

    • PHtaxpayer

      What exactly don’t you get?  How is China deceitful?  Are members of the UN Security Council supposed to oppose this NK rocket launch?

      China supports NK because it opposes US imperialism ever since the US invaded NK back in 1950 and threatened China’s border.  Gen. McArthur threatened Mao Tse Tung with the atomic bomb and was fired by pres. Truman for his belligerence and tactical failure in preventing war with China.  McArthur defied the UN Security Council and crossed the 38th Parallel into NK after China warned him it would support NK if his armies crossed that line.

      I bet you didn’t even know that, did you?

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