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Cebu dad shocked by penalty, not photos

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CEBU CITY, Philippines–Photos of his daughter in a bikini don’t shock her father.

He said he remembers the exact occasion – her recent 16th birthday in a plush Mactan beach resort, where he booked two rooms for her to enjoy the day with friends.

Even some teachers were invited there, he told Cebu Daily News.

He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.

“These things are part of high school life. At that age you are very curious,” he said.

The father, a public figure, asked that his name be kept out to avoid identifying his teenage daughter, a minor in the center of a first-of-a-kind lawsuit filed by parents against St. Theresa’s College high school for barring at least six students from joining graduation rites scheduled today for violating Handbook rules on proper conduct.

A court order stopping STC officials from imposing the penalty has given the families some relief, but they still worry how the ceremony itself will unfold today.

“The news is all over and it is very traumatic for her,” said the father of the 16-year-old, whose parents separated several years ago.

“I hope they won’t be separated from the rest of the graduates. If the roll call is alphabetical then it should be alphabetical. I pity the kid because she’s undergone trauma. It’s enough that the kid has been traumatized,” he said.

He said his daughter studied in STC which is run by the Missionaries Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (ICM), from prep to high school and this was was the first time she had committed an “offense”.

He said he tried pleading with the principal in her office to lower the penalty since he found it “very grave” for a first violation.

“I appealed to them and asked them if they are going to give my daughter disciplinary action how about letting her clean the classrooms or take remedial classes or other sanctions.”

Asked about the Facebook photos of his daughter which STC officials had scolded her about, the father said he didn’t find the images alarming.

He said his daughter and her friends were having fun and took photos, then posted them on Facebook.

“That was fun and candid. Is wearing bikini in a swimming pool obscene? It’s not. The sanction was just too oppressive,” he said.

At 3 p.m. today, parents and family members will gather in the school auditorium of of STC to watch about 200 high school seniors graduate.

Following school tradition, the students will only wear the school uniform: a white blouse with blue tie, a knee-length navy blue skirt, and well polished leather shoes.

No makeup or dangling earrings are allowed.

Neither are hair bangs; the hair has to be brushed neatly on the head and not cover the student’s face.

Attendance is limited to two family members per student, with tickets issued to control the crowd.

Originally posted: 7:42 am | Friday, March 30th, 2012


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  • pedronimo

    Very well said Mr. Bikini father, I think your daughter, when she ascends the stage to receive her diploma, will be given a rousing standing ovation- not because she graduated but because you and she have proven that human rights triumph over hypocritical traditions that belong to the Victorian Age. Congratulations, Sir.

    • cablero inc

      Read the article again, it is for violating Handbook rules on proper conduct and not victorian traditions.  the sisters are simply upholding a rule that was agreed upon when the parents enrolled the child.  let us set aside morality because anyhow people have different set of values, an agreed-upon rule was broken, do we penalize the law breaker

      • Jhun Santos

        punishment yes, DUE PROCESS certainly yes , we penalize law breaker but we go into system and that is JUSTICE 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H7T3KJBUO4G2KYQBNF6ZMWC2CM Rose

        FYI Jhun:

         the school issued a document “Probation: An Administrative Sanction for a Violation” which showed the alleged violations committed by the student based on the Student Handbook.It was signed by the student with a promise not to commit the offenses again.  Her mother signed “Conforme” to attest that the principal or discipline-in-charge “has conferred with me regarding my daughter’s misdemeanor and the corresponding sanctions.”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        But was not given any time to explain and defend themselves ..

      • pedronimo

        Granting the girl violated the rule in the handbook, why couldn’t the Sister have allowed her to march at least- as in the case of a Chancellor’s decision in another school- but withhold her diploma until the investigation comes to a justifiable end, If in four-year time the Sisters could not mold their product into a perfect “sinless” girl, they are also failures in their mission, Their  rules, like any law, should adapt to the changing times unless the Sisters want to manufacture irrelevant robots like their alumna Gretchen Barreto. and a Miss Earth Water dressed less than a bikini. Talk of hypocrisy. The sisters are not missionaries but “punishers” of misguided girls. Missionaries are considerate Christians, not amazons of Genghis Khans;

        It is the Sisters who, in your own words, “law breakers” because they did not obey the TRO issued by the court. Or you too don’t respect the law that you have been invoking?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZPNVF3YTFR5LMUOLARYR47RYVM Niel

      Magbikini na rin siya pag akyat sa entablado

  • c7cinbox

    ang problema sa atin ay puro na lang KARAPATAN ang gusto. Nakalimutan natin na sa bawat karapatan na ating tinatamasa ay may karampatang OBLIGASYON din na dapat nating tuparin. May karapatan tayong mabuhay ngunit di ibig sabihin na pwede nating nakawin o patayin ang ating kapwa at sabihin na dala ng pangangailangan para mabuhay ang ating pamilya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

    The father will not be shocked if he saw his daughter having
    sex with several men. But will be shocked by the penalty.

     

    • MonMayuga

      Your analogy is out of this world, Mr. Genese. 

    • TataRamonKo

      Nagpapantasya ka lang, parekoy! Maduming isipan, kailangang i-sanitize ng chlorox o kahit muriatic acid!

    • http://twitter.com/bdelfiero Benjie

      Did you just wake up from comma? your remarks is so alien.

    • scorpio15

      Ina-apakan mo yong utak mo. Ganon ba ang gustong makita sa anak mo??????

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7Z7T6SC4KK3A3332DMPMFVWFM Abnoynoy

    it is clear they violated the rules, so they should be punished. they know that it is against the rule of the school. so why be shocked when they were punished? stupid dad 

    • john_constantine

       I agree that because nasa rules ng school ang pagpost ng bikini pictures, and she broke the rule that she should be punished, but don’t you think that the punishment suggested by the dad (attending remedial classes, cleaning the rooms) is a more fitting punishment rather than not making the student attend her graduation rites which is supposedly the last happiest occassion they can experience as high school students?

  • MonMayuga

    Venue – plush Mactan beach resort
    Affair – birthday party (ergo, private gathering of only invited guests)

    So, thats it. It was not a public affair. Ano ang pakialam ng school sa buhay ng mga estudyante sa labas ng campus nito? Nada! Wala! Nothing!

    • roniega

      korek. and FB is ‘private’! the nuns committed a sin there – voyeurism. lol!

      • Uragorn

        FB is private??!! Are you on medication? Please think twice before you make inane comments.

      • roniega

        I would like to teach you how to use FB:
        go to privacy settings.
        you will see this one :
        Control Privacy When You Post

        welcome to Facebook my old friend.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZPNVF3YTFR5LMUOLARYR47RYVM Niel

        Private sa imong mata!!!!. Social networking nga eh..

      • roniega

        please go to Privacy Settings my friend.

        Wise men talk because they have something to say;
        fools talk because they have to say something.

    • Uragorn

      Excuse me? It was a private affair only until the photos were posted on a social networking site, and thus it suddenly became a public affair! I suppose you are aware of cases of employees who were fired from work because of their postings in social network sites such as Facebook? It’s the same case here … you post at your own risk!

  • highfivingamillionangels

    great parenting! *thumbsup*

    /sarcasm

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

    yah pag artista ang nagpopose ng may hawak na sigarilyo…ang laking controversy kasi nga baka sundin ng mga bata…pero pag bata nag popose na may hawak na sigarilyo at beer…OK lang curious lang naman eh….Is that a proper parenting??? FYI if you want a private gathering to be private don’t post it in Facebook…Facebook is a social media where everybody can see what  you are doing…. That is a place where you share and boast what you had been doing. So technically speaking those students were boasting that they can really get away with the rules and the norms of society because their parents let them. :(((((

    • roniega

      FB is ‘private’ and the nuns violated its privacy! dont you think they themselves deserve a penalty for that sin?
      lol!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        Privacy is sometimes related to anonymity, the wish to remain unnoticed or unidentified in the public realm. Question lang po…when you post something in Facebook are you saying you want to remain unnoticed or you want your friends to see what you are doing? And believe me these girls do have friends in facebook that are either their classmate or teacher of which they can easily see it and download such pictures. 

  • marionics

    well the dad’s attitude and parenting policies are less than ideal but what can you do? di naman natin anak yan he he.

  • Jhun Santos

    We all know that as parent we give our kids the best we have to give, pwede bang sabihin mo sa ibang tao ang maganda para sa anak nila … I definitely agree with the punishment but they have to observed and practice due process, ika nga nung isang poster dito “do we penalize law breaker – answer is certainly yes ” but the next big question is “do we render punishment immediately” of course they need to hear both side first 

    • john_constantine

        I agree that because nasa rules ng school ang pagpost ng bikini
      pictures, and she broke the rule that she should be punished, but don’t
      you think that the punishment suggested by the dad (attending remedial
      classes, cleaning the rooms) is a more fitting punishment rather than
      not making the student attend her graduation rites which is supposedly
      the last happiest occassion they can experience as high school students?

      • Jhun Santos

        if its their rule then we cant do anything about it ( i mean lewd photos = no graduation attendance ) , the moment they accepted the rule they waive their rights 

        of course yes I agree that graduation is the most memorable part of high school days, sana man lang as RELIGIOUS people they have a decency to understand 

      • john_constantine

        side_comment:  wearing a bikini in a “swimming ” outing is lewd?  automatically?

      • Jhun Santos

        what can you expect from an old fashioned people lol 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZPNVF3YTFR5LMUOLARYR47RYVM Niel

        nakita mo na ba ang pictures? e google mo gaano ka grave.

      • john_constantine

         I just did.  I see a picture of teenage girls taking a shower – maybe after a dip in the sea.  Is that it?  Seems  pretty innocent to me, considering they’re having fun at an outing.

      • alconce

        It is not lewd. What is lewd is getting the pictures in a social networking sites. It smacks of sexism and exploitation. It’s not her fault though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XY3GGHWDTCKXD3YI5WX2I4RRDY dodo

    i think penalty is enough for those who violated the school principle. but to banned them attending the graduation that something else and i think its ridiculous. apat na taon din nilang hinintay o pinaghirapan para makapagmartsa hehe..

  • john_constantine

    This issue should not have been “national news” if the nuns knew how to fit the punishment with the crime.

    • JKG_HSA_VOSA

      Well they are allowing them to graduate but not allowing them to march with their batch…. a stricter punishment would have been to fail them. Please note that their deportment grades used to be failing marks and was passed after the school reconsidered the impact of those grades.

      at the end of the day they are still graduates, just not graduates who were allowed to march on stage

      • john_constantine

         yeah, i see your point.  but then, we must also understand the effects of emotional distress and humiliation to a child/teenager, given the current situation.  hindi ito yung tipong punishment that you can learn from and would remember quite fondly later on in life, in fact it has made the student hate the school.

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        I agree. The incident had caused trauma to the child. I only hope that instead of hatred she should have learned something else like acting proper at all times. I hope she also learns that the world will not always go with what she wants.

        But whatever happens after this incident she will be stronger if her parents would guide her until she manages to stand by the issue on her own.

        I have come to know of people who were not allowed to march because they were pregnant when they graduated or for some other reason. They have very strong personalities now and very driven to succeed. I hope the girls from Cebu would use this incident in their lives to fuel their careers. And make their Alma Mater regret having caused them pain and embarrassment.  If the time comes and their schools will confer them awards for their achievements after school, they now are in the position to exact a little revenge if their heart still so desires.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

      this issue would have not been national news had the parents been discreet in dealing with the issue and not drag the media in this mess. so Yah kudos to the dad for saying that its ok to drink and Kudos to the mom for making sure the press knows she is filing a complaint against the school. :(

  • carlorocci

    Well publicized, too much news about this item…enough for this please….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=792738088 Raymond Olsen

    I live in the Philippine but I will NEVER let my child go to this stupid Christian schools.

    • cablero inc

      good coz the stupid christian schools will never let your child go there also

  • http://civilservice.boxpinoy.com/civilserviceexam.php Rorschach

    “He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.”

    Dapat mabigyan din ng disciplinary action itong ama. Ipinagyabang pa.

    • Jhun Santos

      what is better your kids drink/smoke outside without you knowing or supervised?? 

      • http://civilservice.boxpinoy.com/civilserviceexam.php Rorschach

        No, I prefer they do drugs and perform sex while I’m watching.

        Maybe there’s a reason why they don’t sell these things to minors.

        Good luck on your parenting journey, my suggestion is start with Barbie Dolls.

      • cablero inc

        that is so true or maybe he can start with g i joe action figures in case his kid is a boy

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         ”supervised” drinking and smoking of a minor? really?????????????

  • Batangueno

    We have not seen the picture and we do not know what transpired before the penalty was decided, so it is premature and unfair to both parents and the school to make judgements about this incident.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZPNVF3YTFR5LMUOLARYR47RYVM Niel

      imagesdotgoogledotcom tapos search mo STC Cebu.

      • marionics

        hey thanks for the link (link nga ba tawag dun?) i got to see the bikini photos but, call me unprude (is that even a word?) but, IS THAT ALL? o baka naman nabawi na yung mga incriminating pix?

  • JOSE RIZAL

    it’s martial law. and when it’s religious entities doing it, it’s for GOD. hypocrites and liars. your devil is waiting for you.

    • JKG_HSA_VOSA

       this is still a democratic country Jose Rizal. If you are not willing to abide by tradition you are by all means welcome to go to another school. The father being a prominent figure in Cebu has means to send her to a liberal institution. Why pick this one and not follow? Please, faith has nothing to do with this so let us not drag God into this discussion. What is being discussed is the strict implementation of school policies against students who erred.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDVP7T277J324IDOHEGVEWKPBQ Meryl Joy

      martial law ba yun.. nobody forced him to enroll his kid in that school. 

  • alconce

    That girl is barely legal. Letting a minor smoke, drink and pause in skimpy covers for everyone to see is in itself   exploitation of minors as embodied in the Declaration of Human Rights. I am not concerned about how  she dressed but the way how she a minor can be posted in Facebook in said attire. What;s so disgusting is “kinu kunsinte pa nang Tatay ‘yong bisyo ng anak”. All progressive and secular states in the world frowns on such acts.  The concerned citizens of Cebu must teach this kid’s father a lesson by filing the appropriate charges against him.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

      to think the father is a public figure…:(

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    baka naiinggit si sister
    bawal siya mag bikini ;))

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4QAIR53YIPJLMPSQJZTOJIGBVI Jaz

    Lesson: Bago nyo i-enroll ang inyong anak lalo na sa isang catholic school, make sure that you and your children can abide by its rules and regulations.If you cannot,sa ibang school i-enroll para walang maging problema.
     

  • anu12345

     He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.”

    So what do you expect from his children? The father was ‘only kidding.”

  • http://twitter.com/kintoy Boardinggate101.com

    letting a minor drink and smoke is bad parenting

    • Jhun Santos

      drinking and smoking is inevitable

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

         since it is inevitable you allow it? my parents did not want me to drink nor smoke their argument was they neither smoked nor drink so why should I… And it is not inevitable because I have neither smoked nor drank. My only sin is second hand smoke. That, because of the attitude of people like you, have caused me to know what it feels like to smoke because everyone around me smokes.

      • Uragorn

        Nope! Please don’t use a word if you don’t know the meaning of it. Not everybody “inevitably” drinks and smokes, let alone at the tender age of 16!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         agree! couldn’t say more

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Drinking and smoking is a Choice.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        its a choice if you are an adult if you are a minor the government says NO you don’t have a choice. or had you forgotten that there is a law prohibiting stores to sell to minors cigarette and alcoholic drinks?

      • Jhun Santos

         not everybody but most of them, give me statistics from people who dont drink and dont who do not, young people at that age is full of curiosity eventually they will try everything

  • Uragorn

    “These things are part of high school life. At that age you are very curious.”
    Yeah right. And that’s also the stage where most teens get into drugs. What a perfect role model of a father. No wonder he’s separated, probably the wife realized early on what kind of an a-hole  he is!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDVP7T277J324IDOHEGVEWKPBQ Meryl Joy

    He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.
    “These things are part of high school life. At that age you are very curious,” he said

    -KAYA NGA ANG ROLE MO BILANG MAGULANG I-GUIDE AT ITAMA MGA GAWA NG ANAK MO. HINDI YUNG KINUKUNSINTE. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

      lemme ask you.. Do you want your daughter or Son hide this things to you? or you rather know about it and control it?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         lagi ka naman lemme ask you. lemme-yan naman yang linya mo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Hahaha Is that the only opinion you can share.. Hey this is not personal We are just Talking here. Sharing Different point of views Dont be so negative and Immature. If you cant handle or understand the Discussion. Leave. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDVP7T277J324IDOHEGVEWKPBQ Meryl Joy

        alam nung tatay na istrikto at uber conservative ng school na pinasukan ng anak nya. alam nya ang rules at regulations at sya dapat ang higit na nakakaunawa ng mga consequences ng mga actions ng anak nya. sure he was aware that his daughter smokes and drinks a little. asan ang control? SANA PINAYUHAN NYA ANAK NYA NA MAG INGAT SA IPOPOST SA FACEBOOK DAHIL SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE ITO AT LAHAT NG ILAGAY MO DITO AY PUBLIC.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        let me point this out also…drinking and smoking at a minor age can cause great problems and could lead to addiction and if you’ve done it at an early age it would be more difficult to “recover” ika nga…kaya nga ang beer at paninigarilyo eh pinapayagan lang bumili ng gobyerno eh yung may legal age (take not di lang sa pinas yan na patakaran sa buong mundo yan na patakaran ha)….WHY because at least by then they know what is right and what is wrong. What WE as parents should do is try to instill at an early age that drinking and smoking is not good…not to satisfy their curiousity. And I would love my daughter to respect my rules about it …..as for hiding their curiousity…well she will know the consequences…if I find out about she had been drinking or smoking well she will also definitely get a punishment from me not condone it. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        If the kid Dont have any interest on it, of course don’t give the kid the Idea. Lets just be more realistic that here Pinas We can buy anything we want regardless of what age. If your Kid is hiding things and you dont have any idea of it maybe the time you will know it he/she is already so into it. and you will not have time to recover her or build that relationship.

        my opinion is we need to build relationship with our kids. Instead being feared we will be respected.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        I think as a parent we set rule for our children to respect it. we are on the same page na dapat may open communication. We can always tell them  they will just have to wait to do it when they reached the age of 18. Wait and be patient. As for the fear…every rule has a punishment when it is broken. Kaya nga may law abiding citizens tayo kasi we fear the punishment.  The fear of getting caught is part of it…the thrill of not getting caught is also part of it. Ang akin lang basta alam ng bata na mali at bawal yan sa akin at dapat sundin. Kung magtatago man siya siguraduhin nya maayos pagkatago kasi pag nahuli ko siya ay talagang may kasunod na punishment. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OTZ7IMSSVGQ3I66B2YUJKG7VDA Lina

        the girls graduated HS at the age of 16 THEN  going of to college where the BIG kids,  where peer pressure is more than extreme and will encounter people they don’t know. i think the dad allowed her to drink and smoke a little is to make aware of the taste and smell so she can protect herself when she goes off to college. 

        Marijuana can be disguised as a cigarette you wouldn’t know the difference  until you’ve light up the stick, put in your mouth  inhale  unless you’ve smoked a real cigarette even once in your life. i was offered a “cigarette” during my first year in college i almost took it but immediately knew it wasn’t cigarette when i smelled it so  i’m glad my grandfather made me try his cigarettes behind my parents back ( they don’t smoke nor do they allow us to) but smoking isn’t  really my thing. 

        oh! and date drugs can be dissolved in any alcohol and makes the alcoholic drink bitter . A lot of young  girls worldwide ended up getting raped because of  the drug,their lack of knowledge when it comes to alcoholic drinks and the lack of awareness. 

        i hope you guys see my point on maybe why the dad allowed her daughter to smoke and drink a little.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    The attitude of this father and that of the school officials are no different.. Tsk

    • Uragorn

      How come? The way I see it, the father is condoning the bad attitude of the girl while the school is trying to instill discipline in her. You’re way off the mark!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        That is right.. It’s a matter if letting you children know that you can do things but in moderate way. so that way they will not hide things from you. 

      • cablero inc

        i will not allow my kids to take drugs in a moderate way so that they will not hide it from me.  i will tell them not to take drugs because it is bad and it will not benefit you in any way just like smoking and drinking period and it cannot be negotiated.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Yeah Drugs is not an Option. I agree.

  • Elmer Jandoc

    Im a  father myself..di ko maintindihan tong sinabi ng tatay na to…he allowed his daughter to drink a little and even to smoke….eh taran..ado pala to…

    pinagaral nyo sa magandang eskwela..alam nyo ng may patakaran, tapos di nyo susundin..pinalalabas nyo pang masama yung eskwelahan…di naman kayo pinilit na dyan nyo ipasok anak nyo..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

      you sound like your from the same school. Lemme ask you, what will you feel if you found out your children is hiding things from you like smoking and drinking?  do you want them to fear you because of getting punished or respect you for giving them the freedom to think.

      • cablero inc

        i would like them to respect me as the padre de familya and follow my rules while they are still minors. allowing them the freedom to think while they are minors is reckless and foolhardy

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        And that’s the start of kids being rebellious. Role of the Father and Mother is to guide the kids. Giving them a Mature Point of view.   

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDVP7T277J324IDOHEGVEWKPBQ Meryl Joy

        if you are aware that your child who is of minor age is drinking and smoking  kahit pa in moderation  tapos wala kang ginagawa about it.. that’s just irresponsible parenting.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Thats true Meryl.

      • cablero inc

        the role of the father and mother is to guide the kid while they are minors so that a good foundation is established.  Allowing them a mature point of view comes when they are of age, and that it why it is called mature

      • Uragorn

        And in your “mature point of view, allowing your child to drink and smoke at age 16 is part of their guidance? How about telling your child that drinking and smoking are bad for his/her health!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Mature Point Of view : Give the example of what will happen if you abuse your self with alcohol, cigarettes and  lets include Drugs. (again Drugs is not even an option) Share them stories of people who abuses them. So they can realize this things is not good for them.  

        this only applies if your kid ask you “hey dad its my graduation and i want to do this and this” You give some and lecture them. 

        So you can build a relationship with your kid. 

      • Jhun Santos

        drinking is not bad, excessive drinking is , even in the bible Christ drink alcohol, turned water into wine

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        He did that when he was a child. Let me ask you… did he drank the wine he made?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LF4KOBNYHPLRNEECHWCK4Q7GO4 sharkman1027

        responsible parents should allow their children the freedom to THINK

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDVP7T277J324IDOHEGVEWKPBQ Meryl Joy

        responsible parents should also guide their children in whatever they think or do..

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        ngayon smoking and drinking lang… pag lumusot drugs naman… kung lulusot pa rin teenage pregnancy na…. Open communications is important between the parents and the child. A guided child will not go into these vices.

        by your question I think you’re giving your child too much freedom. I just hope that when they do have problems they go you instead of asking help from their peers. Children should understand their parents are there to help and all it needs is communication. I personally would pick the one where my child fears me if that will lead to him being safe and off any vice.

        Do they lose freedom if I do not allow my child to smoke or drink? Why don’t you see it as preserving their lives?

        My child has asthma and do you think smoking will help him have stronger lungs? Would I allow him if he asks permission from me knowing the dangers of smoking? Do I restrict freedom by preserving his life?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QDQEZYJOUTITQGFI6W42FZCUBI badBOi_widA_haLo

        Now what your Doing is predicting the Future of the Kid, which is so unfair. You just need to established the Communication and trust. Yes you already a Parent to them. but can you be friends with them?

        I’n not asking parents to give freedom to their children and tell them to Smoke and drink. What you can do is Guide them in every decision they make. 

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

         Why? Will smoking cure his asthma? My child and I has that trusting relationship right now. We communicate, we play, we do things together. I can say we are friends but definitely I know that he values his cousins a bit more because they are his peers. Am I restricting him to be with me instead of spending time with his cousins? No.

        So what exactly is your point? why is preserving his life unfair? Do I not know the exact FUTURE if he pursues smoking? Will there be a different impact to him if he starts smoking because of his asthma?

        What WE parents would like is for our child to have freedom to experience life in all its splendor! Destroying it at an early age will not give them freedom to explore it, but will burden them with baggages to carry throughout life. What sort of life would they have if they are attached to a breathing apparatus?

        We parents are guiding our sons and daughters and teaching them to decide for themselves. We send them to schools that teach them the ideal. We have LIFE to teach them what is real. It is his choice now on what he want to live by knowing full well that he has us, his parents, to help him anytime. If you think that we are not practicing what you are saying then you had better think again.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H7T3KJBUO4G2KYQBNF6ZMWC2CM Rose

        Very well said Sir. Very well said.
        We only want what we think is good and the very best for our own children. We just want to give them good strong foundation. In the end, it’s their life to live. We are just here to guide the prepare them to the reality of adulthood.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    Not shock ang tatay, allows her to smoke. no wonder….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LF4KOBNYHPLRNEECHWCK4Q7GO4 sharkman1027

    Scratch a moralist and you will find a hypocrite…

    • cablero inc

      scratch a liberal and you will find a dad who does not care

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LF4KOBNYHPLRNEECHWCK4Q7GO4 sharkman1027

        nah…you wouldnt know that

      • cablero inc

        yup i wont coz i am a moralist and i care without hipocrisy

    • kismaytami

      Bulls eye ang RC, lalo na si Padre Damaso…

  • marionics

    Come out Virginia, don’t let me wait
    You Catholic girls start much too late
    aw But sooner or later it comes down to fate
    I might as well be the one

    well, They showed you a statue, told you to pray
    They built you a temple and locked you away
    Aw, but they never told you the price that you pay
    For things that you might have done…..
    Only the good die young
    thats what i said
    only the good die young

    You got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation
    You got a brand new soul
    mmmm, And a cross of gold
    But Virginia they didn’t give you quite enough information
    You didn’t count on me
    When you were counting on your rosary (oh woah woah)

    They say there’s a heaven for those who will wait
    Some say it’s better but I say it ain’t
    I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
    the sinners are much more fun…
    You know that only the good die young

    • cablero inc

      nope not in today’s world. now only the bad die young (from cancer or dui or overdose) the good, well they just fade into the sunset

  • ruben_bush

     The Taliban is alive and well in the Philippines!!!!  These moralistic
    thugs should instead join their comrades in Afghanistan or Iran.  Like
    the mullahs and ayatollahs, they would like us to go back to the old
    medieval ages where theocracy rules.  The people or these youths have
    the right to wear bikini’s.  They too have the right to kiss!!!  It is
    strange that these religious bigots never say a thing when one is
    murdered in the streets which happens almost daily, yet when the youth
    kiss, they make a big issue out of it.  Or how come these religious nuts
    never say a thing when their priests are involved in pedophilia or
    child sexual abuse??????? 

    • JKG_HSA_VOSA

      Don’t call me a thug Mr. Bush… All that is being questioned here is the right to march in graduation… the student can graduate nothing wrong done to her academic life. What I am saying is that when you go to a certain place, you must act accordingly. You wanted a Catholic Education, then adhere to the rules and earn it. If it is much too strict for you then leave.

      Did the girls do anything wrong? In the eyes of the institution they did. Was the punishment too much? Well the school failed them already in deportment and later on reconsidered it so as not to affect their move to College. But in the eyes of the institution, they cannot give them the rites for violation of moral standards set by school which the parent and the student agreed to. 

      You have just got to learn to respect the opinions of other people and not brand them the way you did. There is such a thing as too much censorship but in this issue, the school had every right to act the way they did

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

    this school is a not only a religious institution but a business too.. students who enrol in exclusive schools actually dont study for free.. like clients or customers in a business environ they pay for the education .. they deserve the fruits for the services they paid for.. the school may influence or guide the students on how to live accordingly to what they see fit as a christian but they have no right to impose their morals on the students or anybody else and worse to impose punishment if their moral standards are not met by their students.. to many of u here who are quick to say bad things about the students and the parent of one.. look at yourselves first at how a good person u are before condemning others.. 

    • JKG_HSA_VOSA

      Sectarian schools are not merely businesses but are teaching their religion too and are demanding their students and parents to adhere to morals they teach. It is written in the student handbook and us parents are made to sign them. Why do parents bring their children to these institutions? It is precisely because of the values and morals it teaches more than the academics.

      The right to impose their beliefs were agreed to when the child enrolls in their schools. And frankly they should follow the discipline being enforced by the school. Everyone who’s child is enrolled there plays by the same set of rules and pays the same tuition… why would this one child be exempted? If others can follow, why can’t her?

      Now is it fair for the compliant child to be asked when she enrolls in another institution if she was the student who caused a nationwide issue? What if the next institution she plans to attend to has stricter rules than her current one? Is it fair to be red-flagged on account that the school needs to verify first if she was the girl in question? 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        in our country and its laws nobody has the right or privilege to impose their religious beliefs or moral standards on others and punish others if they failed to satisfy them. handbooks etc can never be above the law.. in a court of law the school stands to lose this case.. about the other issues you are raising about the students.. its really up to the parents how far they would allow their child to be regulated by the school in or outside the confines of the school.. just because u and many other parents allowed your daughters to be regulated strictly by school authorities in and out of the school premises doesnt give u the right to demand other parents follow your example.. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        then don’t enroll to the said school …we chose that said school because we are inline of the schools policy ergo we have to follow the said rules, standard and beliefs that they want to instill to the children. The said school is quite old by the way it just celebrated its 75th anniversary a few years ago….and has always been in one of the top contending schools in Cebu…so it has been there for ages and hasn’t been pulled down by controversies. That’s why a lot of parents want to enroll their children their even if some parents can’t follow the rules because its values formation had always been consistent. The school is quiet famous because of their beliefs and standing by the way. :))

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

         That’s reason why the student handbook is not notarized. It is not a public document but a private one. The agreement is with the parents, the students and the institution. The waiver was agreed to by the parents and the students. IT IS STIPULATED IN THE CONTRACT THE PARENT AND STUDENT SIGNS so what are your talking about?

        I am not asking them to follow… I am asking them to read before signing… and if they sign the handbook, follow it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        let me ask u this.. if u dont sign the “Agreement’ .. can u still have your child enrolled without the waiver? 

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        Enrollment yes I think you can because you are reminded that in the previous year you had agreed with their rules and it is more likely that you agree with it in the current school year. At the start of the term, the handbooks are sent to us and are asked to re-sign them again.

        If what you are stating is that we are new parents to the school, in my son’s school the rules were discussed to us. The application form contained what they expect of us and of the student at the guidance office. Grades to maintain are there and a standard of behavior is discussed by the Guidance Counselor. After said discussion, we were asked to sign a conforme of the discussion and expectation. After that we can proceed to the Admissions to submit the requirement and then endorsed to the accounting office

        Hope this answers your question

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        what i meant is the waiver.. that the school authorities can mete out any punishment they deem fit if a student violates a school regulation?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

      Yes schools per se is also a business also but I beg to differ that STC is a RELIGIOUS school and before the students go to school WE parents are informed of what a RELIGIOUS SCHOOL is all about.It had always been clear on what their moral standing and values that they will teach the child in school. If you don’t like there standing you can always leave the school they will not force you to stay.  As for the money the parents are paying for their children to go to school…there are other schools more expensive but less strict in the rules they can always send their children there. What I am concerned about is that parents allowing there child at an early age to engage in smoking and drinking. That is quite explicit and well explained by school that even if the child is out of the school but caught on the said act they have the right to punish the said child. That was explicitly explain to the parents (assuming both parents were there during PTA meetings) why because the school wants us to be inline with their moral teaching and making sure we are on the same page. As the school said we are partners in rearing and taking care of the child. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        as if outright punishment is always the best course to deal an erring child.. it is not.. how about counseling the child first making them realize their mistake and rectifying whatever there is to correct..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        it was not an outright punishment…the rules were clearly explain at the beginning of the school year, every year to both the parents and the student. So both parents and students knew and were bound by the rules of the school when they signed the handbook. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        is it wriiten in the handbook that they could not graduate or participate in graduation ceremonies if caught smoking outside the premises of the school?

    • cablero inc

      when you get your license to drive you agree to the laws regarding driving and if caught breaking it you are penalized just like
      when they enrolled their kid they agreed to abide with the rules and regulations of the school therefore they agreed that those rules be imposed on them.  you know i have seen myself in my kids and i like what i saw and my kids like what they see in the mirror too.  when you see your kid and you see them smoking and drinking and worse taking drugs do you see yourself in them

      • totan

        sir cablero. correct ka dyan if your are caught violating the traffic rules using public highways and streets.  but if you are driving inside your compound, you will not be penalized, because its private.  Ergo, if you are wearing bikini not in the school campus, but in the privacy of your home, the school has no jurisdiction.

    • Uragorn

      The school (or, as you put it, the “business” institution) has a Handbook rules on proper conduct, just like any other business institutions which can also have their own rules on  proper conduct or codes of ethics … some companies even impose dress codes. If an employee does not follow these rules or codes, they may face disciplinary actions, including termination. The girl and the parents knew very well about this Handbook and even signed papers acknowledging the existence of these rules. Yet when their child broke the rules, they even have the temerity to cry foul. How about them (the parents) enrolling their child in another school with less strict guidelines. I suppose nobody forced then to enroll their child in this school.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        guess u will just have to monitor the case and see if how this “handbooks” or ‘rules and regulations” fare with the law of the land..

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        Why is there anything in the handbook that is contrary to law? Can there be no private contracts? Are you familiar with voidable contracts? These are not invalid contracts per se but are mere defective and can be corrected… why insist on legality in a catholic school handbook? Is there no presumption that the handbook is legal? Why do you speak like they are under a different set of laws?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        there is such thing as the “right to education” and “academic freedom” that is upheld by the laws of the land.. this is most probably where the punishment given by the school authorities  infringes on.. cant really say or make comments because im not familiar with the handbook, the school or the case at bar.. 

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        the right to education is a given but was it infringed in this case? The issue is whether to allow them to march or not isn’t it not? You have to understand that the right to education is a vital right of every citizen, but it is a PRIVILEGE to study in PRIVATE SCHOOLS. If it were just a mere right, then anyone could just come and study in these schools

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        go ask the school that and they will tell you that in this country it is so.. that everyone has the right to apply to be admitted to any school and will not be denied or discriminated because of his ethnicity, religious beliefs etc.. and mind u a right is greater than a privilege.. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

    and frankly speaking.. i would’nt mind the company of people who smoke or drink as long as they dont hurt or put other people down rather than with people who dont smoke or drink or wear bikinis but are quick to find fault and condemn others because they think, behave and believe differently from them..

    • cablero inc

      yup and i wont mind also so long as they are not minors.  i am not quick to find fault becoz those warning signs on those cigarette packs and the rule that minors are not allowed to drink were not placed there without reason.  and they have been there long before my kid was born.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        minors or not it is the responsibility of the girl’s parents and not yours.. did it ever occur to u that the girl’s father values are different from yours and that u should learn how to respect it whether u like it or not?

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

        Then was it the school’s fault that the father tolerates it and they do not? Why is the father forcing his values on the institution when they, the girl’s parents, have signed that they agree with and will follow the values of the institution? The father needs to respect the values of the institution as well

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        well i guess the father is obviously more focused and concerned on the liberal social development of her daughter than the religious ideas/orientation of the people running the school or its “image” .. i am not privy to the reasons why he sent her to that school.. it would have been better if he sent her daughter to ateneo or some school where it is being run by the jesuits.. definitely not in this kind of school..

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

         On this point I agree with you. There are other schools, much better school to send her daughter to who will allow her behavior. Her current school doesn’t and sees it as immoral and they should respect that. I haven’t seen the photos and I see no fault about it. It just so happens that this particular school doesn’t see it the way most of us do.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

        ??? ‘run by the jesuits’, what are you implying? IMHO, even Ateneo will not tolerate underage drinking and smoking.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

        The issue here is that the both parents agreed that the child be enrolled in an institution that has a very strict rule that they are bound to follow outside and inside the school.  It has been clear from the start the THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THE SCHOOL’S BELIEF AND VALUES. They signed the contract…they should have read it and understand it also. :(

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000751145640 Urban Quade

        i think the real issue here is if the “punishment” is fitting or just too harsh for the offense..

      • Jhun Santos

        drinking is not bad , excessive drinking is , but i do agree that smoking does not do anything good , don’t tell me you did not go to that stage that you want to try everything

    • Uragorn

      I think you are straying a bit too far on the issue at hand. I’m a drinker (but not a smoker) and I also wouldn’t mind being in the company of people who drink – or even smoke – with or without their bikinis ;-). However, the issue is of a 16-year old student breaking the rules on proper conduct of a school institution. Some of the posters here are quick to condemn the school for maintaining discipline in its jurisdiction and yet want the girl who  made the faux pas to get away with just a slap on the wrist. Let me pose you this question: What do you think other parents with children in that school would think if the school officials didn’t impose discipline in its ranks?

      • Jhun Santos

        …..

      • taga_ilog

        I’m against her smoking and drinking, and I have a hard time accepting that her dad allowed her to do this, but can she be reprimanded for her  actions outside the school premises? Did the handbook explicitly said so? If not, it is her parents who should have told her . but her dad is a very lenient dad,  just the same, I believe that the school is going over too much. 

      • Uragorn

        Yes, taga_ilog, I believe the student handbook “prohibits posing and uploading pictures on the Internet that entail ample body exposure”. It is also stated under the section Code of Behavior of the Student Handbook that, “It is the expectation of this school that student behavior is exemplary both on and off school grounds. A student always represents his or her parents and the entire school community. Therefore, the school reserves the right to impose consequences on students for acts such as, but not necessarily limited to, fighting, vandalism, harassment or any other type of threatening or inappropriate misconduct (personally, via the telephone or the Internet) and stealing (including plagiarism). Such misconduct could result in any number of punishments including the possibility of suspension or expulsion”.
        And no, I don’t agree that the school is going over too much. The girl will still graduate with a diploma but she was just barred from attending the commencement exercises as punishment for her misdeeds. The punishment could have been much worse, you know.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU yahoo-54M5UOMVB2SA24X4TGOSWDSIWU

    wala daw pa sudla ang parents og ang girls sa school kay wala sila invitation and pass? is this true or not?

    • Uragorn

      I’m watching TV Patrol at the moment, and one of the news item states that STC has barred some students from attending the graduation ceremony. I’m still waiting for the news details. Looks like the students barred were the ones involved in the FB controversy.

  • Uragorn

    Update: STC has defied the court order and barred the students involved in the FB controversy from attending the graduation ceremony. They were prevented by the security from entering the school premises. The reason given by the school is that they submitted a motion for reconsideration against the TRO and so they believe that it is still not final and executory.

    • http://twitter.com/regoberto2010 regoberto

       galing ng mga madre mag-twist ng law.

      • MariaVaerewyck

        ginaya lang nila ang SC kasi naman sa SC panay flip flopping nila merong final, final final, tapos final executory tapos final final uli at final final ad infinitum, kaya yan natutunan na rin ng mga madre na ang desisyon ng fina and  executory ay di talaga final executory

    • Enrique Valdecampos

      Gaya gaya kay Noynoying.

      • MariaVaerewyck

        gaya gaya sa SC

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYSU75JJODXJSSWEJFVCXJ324U Jonathan

    SOBRA NAMAN YATA ANG PARUSA PERO HINDI NATIN MASISISI ANG SCHOOL KASI CATHOLIC SCHOOL YUN EH KAYA MAHIGPIT..LESSON SA MGA MAGULANG , KUNG AYAW NYO NG SCHOOL NA SOBRANG HIGPIT AY SIMPLE LANG ANG SOLUSYON, WAG NYO I-ENROLL ANG MGA ANAK NYO DOON!!

    • Uragorn

      I’m not so sure If I agree with you na sobra ang parusa, … ga-graduate pa din naman sila, altho hindi sila kasama sa ceremony. Makukuha pa din nila ang kani-kanilang diplomas. On the other hand, kung hindi mabibigyan ng leksyon ang mga nalilihis ng landas na estudyante, pano masusuheto ng school ang mga susunod pang ganitong insidente? Magkakaroon ng precedent. Tama ka sa isang banda na kung ayaw ng mga magulang ng ganyang ka-istriktong paaralan, hindi naman sila pinipilit na dun mag-enroll, di ba? Dahil ginusto nilang doon mag-aral, kailangang sundin nila ang mga kaukulang patakaran na pinaiiral doon. Ipinaalam naman sa kanila yun bago sila tinanggap doon.

      • http://twitter.com/regoberto2010 regoberto

         Makikitid talaga utak ng mga madre, lalo na yung mga Dominican sisters. Nakapagtrabaho ako for 4 years sa isang Catholic school run by nuns (as registrar and teacher) kaya alam ko gaano ka-narrow ang paningin nila sa buhay. Ang titigas din ng ulo ng mga iyan, ang hirap pakisamahan at napakagahaman sa pera, kakarampot kung magsweldo at grabe kung mag-demand from the employees. Kaya nag-resign ako at nag-business na lang. Very stressful kung magtrabaho sa school na pinapatakbo ng mga madre.

      • MariaVaerewyck

        I don’t think so I studied my high school years in an exclusive school for girls  run by the Dominican sisters, yes the discipline is very strict but to say na makikitid ang utak nila ay di totoo yan dahil I worked for more than a year with them at very open minded sila basta lang you follow the rules of the school, saan ka makakakita ng school na pinatuturuan ng self defense or karate yun mga gustong matuto  para makayanan nilang ipagtanggol ang sarili nila in case merong mga lalaking gustong mamerwisyo sa mga babaeng estudyante na tulad namin. I am very proud sa strict discipline imposed by the school at ngayon nga meron na akong mga anak ay ipinagmamalaki ko sa mga anak ko ang disiplina ng mga private catholic schools na nasa pamamahala ng mga madre.

      • taga_ilog

        you studied there, he worked there, it was a totally different case. of course you’d be treated right, you were a source of income

      • MariaVaerewyck

        I also worked there for more than a year after I graduated.

      • MariaVaerewyck

        I also worked there for more than a year.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PLLXYREEEFVAVQZZVCLIXVZNDU Mellow

    pk pk talaga mga taga Cebu! hahaha

  • nennen12345

    i feel sorry for the student in this kind of situation.  i guess the punishment is too much for the violation she made but i feel so sad for this father who let his daughter try to drink and smoke a little because she is in her curious stage and that is part of her high school life. that’s BAD.  yes, she is her curious stage and this should be time that you will advise and teach your daughter the do’s and don’ts in life.  after smoking and drinking, what if the next thing she would try is smoking marijuana and taking illegal drugs, would you allow her then because she is in her curious stage?  too bad public figure ka pa naman!  your a bad example to the society.  smoking and drinking is bad for health no matter what.

    no wonder napahamak ang anak mo dahil na rin sa iyo.  no moral standards.  wearing bikinis in the swimming pool is i guess not obscene but posting through FB, i guess it is.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OTZ7IMSSVGQ3I66B2YUJKG7VDA Lina

      i think that when the dad allowed his daughter to drink and smoke a little during her birthday was ” mas mabuti na ako ang nagturo sa anak ko imbes na ibang tao na hindi ko kilala” 

  • baby ming

    Before judging the story, we must first know both sides of the story.. It is very evident in the handbook of STC that violations will not be tolerated.  Violations are posted with their corresponding punishment and some of these violations can expel the students.  In this case, this is just a small part of the story.. Actually, there are other violations made by the students.. but because of the school’s concern for the students, they kept the violations confidential so that these violations will not shame the students for their indecent acts.. I hope that you will not be blinded by the media and i hope that you’re not bias about the issue.. As we all know, the media will take something and add something to make the story spicy.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OTZ7IMSSVGQ3I66B2YUJKG7VDA Lina

      but the students weren’t given due process…

      • w33k3nd3r

        you’ve a point… bulagaan na lang kase bigla.

    • GreenStallion

      Precisely the point, what the young HS student did whether its done in a party or not why did she posted her picture that would create so much reaction from school, friends and families. And I could not the Parents why it seems that they are tolerating the behavior of their child when in fact they should be the one in question why they allow this things to happen in the first place. WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE ST. THERESA’S COLLEGE decision because their schools name were put in jeopardy here.

      These parents knew for a fact when they enrolled their child on this school they expect to abide of the schools rules and regulation. No one force them to enrolled their children in this school in the first place, yet they did so because they have trust and respect of the school. I hope the parents would understand the side of the school also why they are doing this things. Ask yourselves in all honesty.   

  • mhertz

    mostly naman dito nag-aaral mayayaman at yung ibang mayayaman ay kaya lahat kc alam nila sila ay malakas. Kaya puede lang di sumunod sa mga policy at ang iba spoiled brat ang pagpapalaki ng mga magulang.  Kaya paglaki nila kayang-kaya nilang baluktutin lahat dahil sa pera at kapangyarihan nila at masaklap ang mang-api at minamaliit ang kapwa nila na wlang kapangyarihan. Pero hindi naman lahat.  Yung iba lang.

  • ethicsingov

    No wonder the student got into trouble with school. Can’t follow rules because there’s no boundaries at home. She’s a minor allowed to drink and smoke – can’t wait when she’s 18? Sorry Sir, in the first place you must be a model of citizenship (law abiding!) I support the school for enforcing their rules.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LPLWHPS7B5WPHPRAREXBIP2BIY renato

      Exactly, particularly the case of this government official giving permission to her daughter, a minor, to drink and smoke. Bad parenting. In this case I admire the strength of the nuns to discipline their students.

  • carlos1968

    sus! too many discussions. I came from a f—-ng rough neighborhood but, when i entered one of these types of schools, i followed the rules. why? because i was aware of the contract that i and my parents signed. simple word of honor. if you don’t want to follow anything, don’t sign to agree with anything. simple. these rich idiots always want exceptions. if others follow, everyone should. fair is fair.

    • http://twitter.com/FleebyBoy Poe’s Law

      Included in that contract is the clause of due process when the student violate any of the clause. The school did not followed this essentially violating their own contract. Have you read that part yet? It is actually the basis of the reasoning of the judge that mediated the case.

  • carlos1968

    but, on the other hand, if i see one of those girls a few weeks from now, and, if they’re affordable, then, why not?!?
    i told you…

  • http://twitter.com/chly2rees Chly Torres

    STC must grow up!

    • Uragorn

      You’re barking up the wrong tree! I think it is the girl and her parents who should grow up.

  • agaylaya

    If you signed a contract (enrollment contract) with STC for their services under their rules and disobey one of these rules, sorry ka na lang.

    But I think the real tragedy here is that at this time and age, most people still give a distorted sense of value to a piece of paper called a diploma. Stripped of its embellishments (Recto made or otherwise), a diploma is nothing but a certificate stating that a person “bought” school services from XY institution for x number of years under certain rules and regulations.

    I would like to make an extreme analogy to prove my point….. Go out and buy the services of a massage parlor. You pay x amount of money (tuition) in return for y services (program of study)  given by z person (teacher) within a given time period under certain rules (handbook) and  under the supervision of a manager (Dean/Principal). Now, to show that you successfully bought their services, you ask the parlor to issue you a certificate of completion (a diploma). …Absolutely absurd isn’t it?!!. But definitely you would have  learned something in that massage parlor.

    Now go back to that diploma issued by the school. It does not really say much about who you really are as a person. Neither does it guarantee that you have acquired certain values, or have honest to goodness education. It simply says that you fulfilled the requirements (measured in units) for x degree or or followed a program of study called a high school curriculum. 

    The school is unique but nonetheless, an absurd institution. It is the only service establishment which is granted officially by the government to issue grades and certificates to its customers for having bought its services. The problem is that the customers (parents and their children) started to love the grades and diplomas rather than the real services given by the school. And because there is a very high demand for their services, the schools acquire a monopoly and demand authority beyond what they can actually deliver like promising to develop values by dictating behavior outside the school.  

    If you like diplomas.. you can buy them anytime at Recto. You can even design one purportedly issued by Maalikaya School of Massage.

    • http://twitter.com/FleebyBoy Poe’s Law

      Included in that contract is the clause of due process when the student violate any of the clause. The school did not followed this essentially violating their own contract. Have you read that part yet? It is actually the basis of the reasoning of the judge that mediated the case.

      • agaylaya

        Of course the customers have the right to ask for due process……but still the whole thing is blown out of proportion because of undue value given that piece of paper- the diploma. Eh kung bigyan na lang kaya ng magandang recibo na nagpapatunay na bumili sila ng mga serbisyo ng school..The school has abrogated too much power and authority unto itself dahil dyan sa diplomang yan. And the customers are willing victims to inanities in the name of their ability to give education kuno. Alisin kaya yang diplomang yan.. mayrun pa kayang controversy?   

      • http://twitter.com/FleebyBoy Poe’s Law

        AFAIK they will be still be given diplomas only that hindi sila kasama sa ceremony. Though yes medyo na gets ko yung point mo. I myself di na ako nagattend ng grad ceremony kasi may trabaho na ako. May isa din akong katrabaho na ganon. Di ko na sinipot. Yung mga nasipagattend di ko alam future nila, baka nasa Middle East.

  • prikopio

    Mukhang ako ang mapapahiya kung ganyan ang magulang ko, hinahayaan ang anak na subukan ang bisyo. tsk tsk tsk!

  • Bayabas San

    Nothing to do with morality. It’s all a sense of being uniquely disciplined. It’s a sense of being above regular people.

    It’s to maintain the aura of being exclusive.

    It’s elitism in its pure form.

    It’s the highest form of hypocrisy.

    What planet do STC’s  administration think they are in?

    • http://twitter.com/FleebyBoy Poe’s Law

      Oo nga no, nothing to do with morality. Napansin ko rin yun. Nagbigay sila ng penalty sa student kasi di daw makasunod sa policies ng school at ginawa nila yun na walang due process. Tapos nung magrant ng judge yung TRO na hinihingi – with due process, dinefy din nila. Tama nga sila, feeling above everything nga.

    • agaylaya

      Right on!! And all in the name of getting a “proper” education. It is all economics really…. you have to make your school services exclusive so that you can charge exclusive (high) tuition fees. Itong mga rich nagpapaloko at nagbabayad ng mataas na tuition for the privilege of belonging to an elite school. It is not really the education they are after but the prestige they get in being  enrolled in the school. At yung administration naman take advantage naman sila at sinasakyan ang kalokohan at layaw ng kanilang mga customers. Can you honestly believe that a school can influence the values of its customers by dictating what they should wear outside of the school much less in a swimming pool?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5QICF2MWTRF5O6SXRXFW2ZHDVM Gi Kigwa

    if the school is adamant on making their students to obey to their rules then why defy the order of the court?

  • TalagaNaman

    The father said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking. 

    Kaya naman pala eh. Ogags din pala ang tatay. Kunsintidor. Kaya pala nagagawa ng anak nya ang mga kaartehan at mga kalokohan na yun, with his permission pala.

  • TalagaNaman

    Why some comment here that due process was not exercised by the school?

    The school confronted the girl, at kasama nya ang parent nya. They admitted (the girl and the parent) that the girl violated the rules of the school. Meaning, GUILTY na ang plea ng girl. The violator’s side was heard but their reasoning was not acceptable. 

    Anong due process pa ba ang gusto nyo? Dalhin sa korte ang kaso? Hindi naman violation ng law ang ginawa ng girl. Violation lang ng Rules and Regulations ng school.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OTZ7IMSSVGQ3I66B2YUJKG7VDA Lina

      i think you should read the other articles about this issue :) lalo na about the court’s decision. 

    • BillyGregory

      If the school administrators were really a stickler for following rules and authority then why did they not follow the TRO?

      Hypocrites!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V6LVSIU7PXDOJF7GWW7RLVFF4Y Therese

    Marami akong kaibigan sa STC pero lahat sila nag-bibikini kapag nasa swimming pool. Hirap kayang lumangoy ng nakashirt at shorts. 

  • OlliuQ

    My daughter studied there and I know how really strict they are on rules. They don’t allow bringing mobile phone, wearing expensive jewelry, etc. STC encourages simplicity, aside from Academic Teaching they also teaches Morale decency, after my Daughter graduated from Elementary she transferred to other Catholic school for a reason of our new house is far from STC and you know what, now in high school she belong to topnotch students.

    Yes, it’s okay to wear Bikini in the pool but posting them in Facebook, a public social networking and also a teenager is another thing. It is not about student or a person but the school reputation and other student.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Buddy-Guzman/100001116004418 Buddy Guzman

    The school must also ban those crucifixes showing the Lord in a violent pool of blood and naked. That is more shocking from the way they interpret things. My goodness!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LKH7OBS65SZ6QW3QEC4UTPG3IA Gervis

      Hypocrite…the situation is far different.

  • GKid

    Ain’t it sad that the Catholic Church easily forgave Pedophile Priests for Child Abuse and Molestation. They just moved the Pedophiles from parish to parish so that they can commit more crimes in order to cover up their actions. However, when a young lady wears a bikini in a swimming resort, they are unforgiving of her actions.

  • 14nono29

    kunsintidor tong tatay na to…at yung ‘canon’ of behavior nya ina-allow nya sa bahay ay dapat ding gawin ng school…kung klaro sa school at student guidelines na prohibited ang mga ganun, then certainly the student is at fault…

  • BillyGregory

    Oppressive and archaic.  These two usually go together.  The news yesterday was that the parents and the children were eventually barred from entry to the school for the graduation rites in violation of a TRO issued by a regional trial court.  

    In the same way that erring students are punished by administrators, schools may be meted penalties for any breach in their charter, etc.  For certain, not following a lawful order is punishable under the revised penal code.

    • Uragorn

      We’re not sure yet if the court order is lawful or not. As I understand it, the school submitted an very urgent motion for reconsideration, which the judge failed to adjudicate (for the reason that he failed to show up in court). Also the lawyer for the school said that the TRO is “deficient”, so we will have to wait for the court’s final decision on the matter.

      • BillyGregory

        I still find that not in consonance with their actions: the school would like the parents to abide by their decision but they themselves did not heed a rightful order. While no order has yet been handed down on the lawfulness (or lack of it) of the TRO, it is presumed lawful until after proven otherwise. All the presumption of lawfulness is with the TRO: it was ordered by a lawful and competent court upon the filing of a lawful and valid petition after both sides have been heard.

        Let’s leave the parents and the school out of this but concentrate on the effect the punishment has on the children.

        Was the punishment Christian? I very much doubt that.

  • BillyGregory

    I think embarrassing the girls and their parents is not just a light tap on their wrists.

    If the parents were errant at disciplining the children, compounding it with a harsh, traumatizing penalty would certainly not help.  Shouldn’t have compassion and a heart-to-heart talk been a better and effective alternative?

    (This post should have been in reply to Uragorn replying to Urban Quade below)

    • Uragorn

      Well, Billy, as I understand it, they had a heart-to-heart talk and the school treated this incident confidential and confined within the school community. However, the parents of the girls, who disagreed with the punishment meted to the girls, opted to bring the matter to court so it became public knowledge. It was the parents who embarrassed the girls and not the school!

      I also don’t agree that the penalty was harsh. They will still graduate with their diplomas but they were only barred from attending the commencement exercises. The punishment could have been worse, you know. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QEDOBEZD4E2LSRPO2S4CVFVRMM Juel

    Tandaan ninyo kung saan meron mga madre at paring Katoliko nandoon din ang mga daan baloktot yan ang turo nila. Sa kulungan maraming katoliko doon, ibig sabihin baloktot ng turo ng mga maadre at paring mga yaon. Ang mga to ay binhi ni Padre Damaso. Hayaan nyo bang sirain ng mga ito ang bansa natin. San ka makakaita ng Katolikong Bansa na mayaman liban sa Roma. Ang Roma lang ang mayaman na bansang katoliko. Dasal sila ng Dasal, sa panginoon daw oh. Pero ang di natin alam ang demonyo pala ang panginoon nila. Yan ang katotohanan sa kanilang pananampalataya. Catholic is a mixture of Pagan and Modified Christianity. Read the Origin of Catholic Church. Catholic was never a Christianity, it is simply the upgraded Pagan Belief, to hide their purpose they just paint Jesus Christ as their Savior when in fact they worship the Sun God. To those Catholic Faith Defender never interpret your bible as it is written because your leaders is good in cover up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/junard.tipacia Brian Barako Delima

      para kang taliban.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/J4X5RZIRHCGVSXJWSH7DEFN6WI rodger66

      e kasi bakla !!!

    • generalproblem

      hay naku nagsalita ang mangmang

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

      ay, anong pinaghuhugutan mo sa nagliliyab mong galit sa Romano Katoliko na rape ka rin ba ng pari?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBW6SWGCFCOXD6G5QYQEKQ565A OWEN

    Parents should accept the reality that they FAILED. And they continue failing to raise their daughter……..it’s ok to drink, smoke,…………this is a father tolerating his high school daughter (probably a minor) to do stuffs that normal parents barred from their kids.

    • generalproblem

      agree ang bobo ng tatay. kaya nya pinasok sa catholic para maging maayos ang anak nya morally. tapos harap harapan eh nakikita nya na umiinom ang anak nya at naninigarilyo pa.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Zahl/1670371040 Steven Zahl

    Bikini clad girls are Normal these days, the Taliban Nuns should go out more.

    • generalproblem

      yes they know but they are catholic school and they have rules. sila ang malie eh dapat si sila dun nag aral kung mag bibikini pala sila

      • http://www.facebook.com/kgudito James Kenneth Gudito

        The pictures were posted in their private FB Accounts. They didn’t advertise that they were studying in STC. This is just an abusive use of power and also way beyond their jurisdiction. I want to see where specifically in the student hand book that posting of private pictures in one’s private account is a legit school offense. 

        Religious freaks and conservatives should remember that they are worshiping a half naked tortured man on a cross. 

  • GreenStallion

    I would not condemn nor glorify the student for posting her photo in not so wholesome picture over the social network website. Eventhough it is a personal account, still a lot of people could see your pictures their and it tells what kind of a person you are. I understand the parents agony and shame to what had happened to their children. Basing on the reports that came out the other day, the student which is a 16 year old high school student posted her Bikini suit with a liquor and cigarette in her hand. If the report is accurate (since it was not completely revealed maybe  for the protection of the student’s identity) we could say that indeed it is a violation of schools handbook and its not a good for her fellow classmates.

    In my opinion, ST. THERESA’S COLLEGE-CEBU administration DID THE RIGHT THING. They just done their part to discipline their students especially those whose actions, behaviors is already beyond expectations. As a student of a Catholic religious institution we knew for a fact that we are carrying the name of our school. The school teaches good moral values, simplicity, humility, decency and among others that as a student we should act and live that way.

    It seems to me that the media gives more preference to the student’s condition when in fact she started this messed after all. IF the school will not sanctioned this student, what will happen to other younger generations? They will just say, “its okay because the school didn’t react on this”. This is a lesson to all young students, whether you are enrolled in a Catholic institutions, private schools or state universities everyone of you has a great responsiblity to think many times before doing anything especially in this modern technology of SOCIAL NETWORKING that is not acceptable in our society and morals better not do it or else make your life a nightmare.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JERRIXDILGTSWZ43WTHPAF4RF4 Rodger

    Get the hint from the father: “drink a little …or even try smoking”, why not expose a little? You gotta luv the father who unfortunately is separated from the girls mother.

  • Panot

    In my opinion, ST. THERESA’S COLLEGE-CEBU administration DID THE MOST STUPID- HYPOCRITICAL THING. I don’t think the administrators of St. Theresas’s College were born in the Democratic country-Philippines but in an organization run by Taliban. What is most embarassing is the act to violate the rights of those high school students to join graduation rites. STC is run by the cult Missionaries Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (ICM)… before you judge those high school students pls try to focus your attention to the children molested by priests and nuns impregnated also by priest and what have you done so far to help them? Also Missionaries Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (ICM) pls don’t hide on your religious-HYPOCRITICAL cloak to judge any body that they are sinners. 

    Also don’t hide in your religious “dis-Order”… Mahiya naman kayo pls pay taxes.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7C3GEWHR7XBMEK4HIJPMDSRYPQ Justin

      Let us not divert an issue to correct another issue. This is not violation of rights, that is purely a violation of schools regulation and policies by these students. Why not in the first place enrolled these girls to a dance or bikini club rather than a sectaraian school?
      If the view of this world is your mindset, it’s catastrophe. Nothing far from truth….

      • http://www.lifeinsuranceph.com/ Life Insurance Philippines

        This issue is not quite clear to me. Does the school have a right to dictate the behavior of its students OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS and OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL PREMISES? Is the school saying that all its students are not allowed to wear swimming attire when swimming in a swimming pool? What are the standards used by the school in deciding whether a swimming suit is decent or not? Is that in their handbook? 
        Which does the school consider as ”proper conduct” - wearing a nun’s habit while swimming or wearing a bikini while swimming? The issue at hand is these students where penalized for supposedly violating rules against “proper conduct”, but I think the school went beyond its jurisdiction.

        If there is any disciplining that needs to be done for behavior OUTSIDE of the school, its the parents’ responsibility. The school should not have penalized the students for it.

      • Panot

        Wow… another guy from heaven who supports a backward school policy. You really make laugh man. You are a perfect person indeed and you don’t even understand the implication of a TRO to an educational institution… you exhibit a hypocritical mindse a stone thrower to sinners. Your probably on drugs or you grew up from a heavenly family.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

      Are the parents not aware that they are enrolling their child in a Catholic school?

      I think the issue here is the rules of the school that was broken by the kids. Coming from a Catholic school also I know that there are certain rules that are strictly impose by Catholic schools, rules that doesn’t even matter to other nonsectarian schools. Just like any other mistakes in life it’s our responsibility as parents to make our children understand that there’s always a consequence for every actions. I’ve been through that crazy days during HS but as they said, “if you can’t be good at least be safe”. Be a little discreet may pamilya, may pangalan and may school na dapat ingatan. Unless that doesn’t matter to you because that’s how you interpret democracy. Besides, tingin ko di naman yata sila pinilit ng mga madre na mag enroll sa school na yan kaya just like any other students they need to learn to RESPECT THE RULES OF THE SCHOOL because that is synonymous to learning to respect her parents, others, the law of the land and above all God.

      Hypocrites and haters are lurking everywhere, they are even in the streets shouting “pakikibaka” and even to those who supports human rights kuno.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LKH7OBS65SZ6QW3QEC4UTPG3IA Gervis

    Tama lang yan…di kasalanan ng school yan kundi kasalanan ng magulang. Give enough guidance to youre children so that it will not arrived to that issue.

    • http://www.lifeinsuranceph.com/ Life Insurance Philippines

      Kasalanan nga ng magulang, so bakit nakiki-alam ang school? The alleged misbehavior was done outside of school hours and school premises.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CZS2DG54GHTF7WV34AKNR6JSRE ferds

    Kunsintedor yung tatay, may rules and regulations sa school lalo na sa mga conservative school, enrol mo na lang sa public school kahit maghubad syang patiwarik hindi sya sisibakin.  heheheheheh

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7C3GEWHR7XBMEK4HIJPMDSRYPQ Justin

    Poor thing.. The father is a public official some more. Understandably, a child from a broken home, with the father seems to be linient on the discipline aspect of his daughter. First we must ask what kind of public official is the father, then we can have a clearer picture and conclude whether STC had done the right thing.

    • http://www.lifeinsuranceph.com/ Life Insurance Philippines

      It’s clearly the father’s fault, so why is the school interfering with his parental responsibilities? Just to clarify your position: If you allow your high school daughter to watch R-rated movies at home with your guidance, but the school considers watching such movies as a “violation of proper conduct”, do you agree that the school can exclude your child from the graduation rites?

  • Renato_SUPOT_Pacifico

    ‘He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.“These things are part of high school life. At that age you are very curious,” he said ‘ 

    sandali lang itay, okay lang maging curious kamo? o sige in her next drinking session imbitahin ko sila Boy Bastos at Totoy Mola…game HA!??? AYOS ka itay! Teka basahin mo lyrics nung kantang LAKLAK!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RGOHNO6VKIIFN77QOQFAN4BV3E paolo

     ’He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try
    smoking.“These things are part of high school life. At that age you are
    very curious,” he said ‘

    Why not also a little sex and little drugs?

    • DIGOYBULOY

      obviously, the dad has a little brain and a little d!ck

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

    Lessons I learned about obedience. If you teach your children obedience you don’t only teach obedience to parents but also obedience to the law and most esp to God. Eh paano yan eh tatay pa ang nagturo na mag disobey sa rules ng school? Makakaangal pa kaya ang tatay kong lalaking mas matigas pa sa ulo nya ang ulo ng anak nya?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AESD5SRM5UZUONKPCETXR76NKU Dennis

    Sana hindi mangyari sa inyo ang nangyari sa mga magulang na ito. I pitty them.

  • MrPaulJ

    I pity the girl… parents who separated… what would you expect from the girl? If i were the STC, i would allow the girl to graduate… But to her dear parents, try to become truly one. The school cannot replace the values formation that should have been done at home. But if the home itself is broken, what would you expect????

    • KapitanBagwis

       I hope you won’t make a sweeping statement like “what would you expect” I have seen a lot of successful individual who were raised from a broken family…raised by a single mom or dad.  

      • MrPaulJ

         But you are not from one, are you????

  • wawa2172

    Only few are chosen to be saint and even saint were sinner before they change their ways and be the servant of the lord. I am not siding with the parents of kids but parents are parents, its natural to defend their kids if they have committed something wrong. The teens in bikinis in a pool and holding cigarette is just a moment kids trying to be rebellious and posting their photos on the facebook is part of it. But it does not mean that they are bad kids. I have my moments in high school too, I have conservative parents but I tried drinking beer, going night out with my classmates on the beach, trying a stick of cigarette but I did not go beyond boarder to becoming a bad kid. I know that my parents are good to me and I respect them. Perhaps the nuns and the kids may differ in values. The nuns are conservative and the kids are still learning from the world that is outside the four walls of their home and school. To me the punishment is just too much and instead of helping the kids through guidance and counseling they were instead threatened of their graduation from the school. Schools teaches students with the proper values but not all the teaching thought will be put in the heart and mind of the kids. Their is always a devil in us no matter how we want to be godly all the time.Trying something like wearing skimpy bikinis and holding a cigarette won’t judge the character of a person, if she is bad or good. Talk to the kids nun, tell them the proper values kahit na pag aralan na nila ito sa classrooms. Even the masses in church, ang pari paulit ulit ang ginagawa at ang mga binabasa. Let us be patient with the kids, let us teach them well. 

    • KapitanBagwis

       I agree with you…let us not be moral hypocrite. Graduating in high school happens once in a lifetime those malicious minded nuns deprived the students of their happiest moments in high school…such PRUDES

    • bgcorg

      The kids were punished by virtue of school regulations without reference to their being “bad kids.”  That was never a question.  The question is the rules and regulations were accepted by the parents and for disobeying it, first learned because of reports from other students, they were punished.  It was not from the point of view of being good or bad or being part of growing up.  They were given a chance to explain per school regulations and procedures, even provided guidance sessions.  But to condemn the school for its action is not to give justice to those who have been faithful to the rules or even encourage obedience to them.  From the point of view of school administration, the school was correct.  There could be a legal tussle, but that is a matter apart from the main issue.  Our rights end where other rights begin. The school has rights, too, and due process must be observed. 

      • TGM_ERICK

        Perfect 10!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

        Well said bgcord, what an intellectual point of view!

  • KapitanBagwis

    This STC principal and her ilk have a very dirty and malicious mind. The school can not make school policies that will violate one’s Bill of Rights and one of these is freedom. This school is the EPITOME OF HYPOCRISY.

    The Lord said, ” Woe to you, experts in the law, and you Pharisees, hypocrites, You are like whitewash tombs that look beautiful on the outside but inside are full of the bones of the dead and of everything unclean” ~ Matthew 23:27

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

      Are the parents not aware that they are enrolling their child in a Catholic school?

      I think the issue here is the rules of the school that was
      broken by the kids. Coming from a Catholic school also I know that there
      are certain rules that are strictly impose by Catholic schools, rules
      that doesn’t even matter to other nonsectarian schools. Just like any
      other mistakes in life it’s our responsibility as parents to make our
      children understand that there’s always a consequence for every actions.
      I’ve been through that crazy days during HS but as they said, “if you
      can’t be good at least be safe”. Be a little discreet may pamilya, may
      pangalan and may school na dapat ingatan. Besides, tingin ko di naman yata
      sila pinilit ng mga madre na mag enroll sa school na yan kaya just like
      any other students they need to learn to RESPECT THE RULES OF THE
      SCHOOL because that is synonymous to learning to respect her parents,
      others, the law of the land and above all God.

      Hypocrites are everywhere, they are even in the streets shouting “pakikibaka” and even to those who supports human rights kuno.

      • KapitanBagwis

         Of course they are aware…but who is perfect in this world? Even those Nuns and Archbishop are sinners..everyone makes mistakes…

        .The good book says ” For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” ~ Romans 3:23

        Where are their compassion and unconditional love of Christ if they are truly adhering to the teaching of the Lord? Reason why I am no longer a Catholic because of their unreasonable doctrines.

        And the school cannot make policies in violation of your Bill of Rights as enshrined in the Constitution..the freedom to pursue happiness..school policies is good only inside the school premises…did the student wear bikinis inside the school premises?? If something happens to the students outside of the school premises will they be responsible….what hypocrisy ….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

        Oh there, yes Kapitanbagwis no one is perfect not even us, not even the haters of other Christian denomination, not even the propagator of human rights and democracy and definitely not even the preacher who influence other to hate the doctrine of other denomination. I’m sorry, but I can’t feel Christ in your statements that’s why the verses you memorized ay sayang naman. I can’t feel God’s love as you preach in your statement instead you oz hatred in your heart. Peace be with you!

      • KapitanBagwis

        Yes maybe so but it wasn’t me who said  that those people are hypocrite…it was the Lord who said they are hypocrite….where is God’s love and compassion in that school? With the Lord all are welcome especially sinners and what did that school do to those student who made a mistake…deprived them of their once in a lifetime high school graduation ceremony…do you see the love of Christ in what they did? The compassion of the Lord? No because of school policy….policy my eye ! God bless you and peace be with you too.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZMWZZAU3HQJSRYQMBPYO5Z52UE Josephine

        That’s the danger of citing Bible verses to lambast other beliefs kapitanbagwis God’s love is lost instead the writer’s/speaker’s emotions is empowering. The great Mahatma Gandhi once said, “I could have been Christians if not for Christians”. Yes I know that there are faults among the church leaders, kahit anong religion pa yan, but I am to scared to lambast anyone for fear that I’ll be misinterpreted that the God I represent is as lambaster as I am. You seem to be an intellectual man, I know you can do better to be a vessel of God’s love. 

      • KapitanBagwis

         I’m sorry if I lambasted other beliefs but I don’t think I did….no one is perfect and we both know that.  The God I worship is a merciful, compassionate, whose love is unconditional…and that is what I am looking for in that school..if they really represent the Catholic church, the Lord’s teaching must prevail in their school policy, not a dictatorial one. The bible said ” Every scripture is inspired by God, and useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction and for training in righteousness.” ~ 2Tim 3:16…nothing wrong to rebuke the attitude of those nuns in that school. If they will only meditate and contemplate on the bible verse that says ” all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”… they would probably more flexible and forgiving. and thank you for your compliment of my seemingly being an intellect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A53TJTYYGGVH52ZXPMJBC22UVI neng

    a Public official telling 16 yrs old that “it is ok to expose your young body on the internet, to smoke, to drink a little liquor ” ?  tama ba ito? 

    • DIGOYBULOY

      a little lang naman daw eh… but that’s coming from a little public official with little brain and little d!ck

    • AntiAko

      neng, nagpapakatotoo lang ang public official na yan. alam kasi niyang stage of curiosity talaga ang high school. kids try things out like smoking and drinking. that is a fact of life. i did have my share of those curiosities. i know you did too…

      maraming katulad mo na pilit pinipikit ang mata sa katotohanan ang hindi nakakamalay sa mga ginagawa ng kanilang mga anak until it is too late.

    • apple

      let me correct a mis-impression.  the father did not say that he encourages and allows his daughter to drink and smoke.  what he said is that his children, just like anyone else’s children, will one day try to drink or smoke out of curiosity and that he would give them that leeway to do so.  he will not condemn or castigate them if the time comes but with love and compassion remind them of its ill effects.  i am a father and i know what he is talking about.  my children just like you and me, are imperfect and would one day stumble and fall.  we should give them that leeway as Christ did to us.  and, with love and compassion, correct and forgive them and not condemn.   isnt this the essence of Christ’s teachings?  oh, by the way, the father does not smoke and very rarely drinks a bottle of beer on special occasions.

    • apple

      let me correct a mis-impression.  the father did not say that he encourages and allows his daughter to drink and smoke.  what he said is that his children, just like anyone else’s children, will one day try to drink or smoke out of curiosity and that he would give them that leeway to do so.  he will not condemn or castigate them if the time comes but with love and compassion remind them of its ill effects.  i am a father and i know what he is talking about.  my children just like you and me, are imperfect and would one day stumble and fall.  we should give them that leeway as Christ did to us.  and, with love and compassion, correct and forgive them and not condemn.   isnt this the essence of Christ’s teachings?  oh, by the way, the father does not smoke and very rarely drinks a bottle of beer on special occasions.

      • cablero inc

        He said he allows his daughter to ‘drink a little’ or even try smoking.
        “These things are part of high school life. At that age you are very curious,” he said.  
        …… primo i copied the news item and i think he said what he said and i think neng is right

      • AntiAko

        bobo ka ba talaga? bakit di ka nakakaintindi?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/APG4EF4E2BYT3C7NLOVNXKF64Y albert

    parang tanga talaga un public official.

  • goldilock

    Dad, file a civil lawsuit, ask for compensation of 300 million or more for moral, psychological and financial damages to each student. The students future is bleak. They are very disturbed and has been in the state of psychological trauma. They don’t want to go to school anymore and thus the schools action destroys the outlook of these students to be a progressive citizen of the community. File a criminal lawsuit for the TRO issue.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/APG4EF4E2BYT3C7NLOVNXKF64Y albert

       due process was observed because the “parents were present when the child signed the probation.” 

  • pedronimo

    I agree with Goldilock 100%. The school openly went against the law worse than the petty offense of the bikini girl. A TRO came from a court, not Shakey’s, and for the Sisters to defy the law like it’s a mere piece of pizza is the height of arrogance and indiscretion. The oppressed students should file a class suit against STC and make them pay for ruining young lives. If in four years, STC was not able to mold a girl to meet its moral standards, then the Sisters who failed in their mission, The Chancellor of another school was more sensible, Christian, and humane in treating those “kissing boys” on Facebook. He let them march but would withhold their diplomas until the conflict comes to a justifiable conclusion,.

    I thought Sisters were Catholic and Catholics were Christian but this incident proves otherwise. STC is being run like a sorority, by individuals of the Victorian Age left behind by civilization. Those restrictions in the Students’ Manual need to be updated to adapt to the changing times; otherwise, this school will be  graduating irrelevant members of society. ATTENTION DEPED, THIS IS YOUR DOMAIN. DO SOMETHING.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/APG4EF4E2BYT3C7NLOVNXKF64Y albert

     due process was observed because the “parents were present when the child signed the probation.”

    • goldilock

      It is coercion. Abuse of authority. If they don’t signed they get other kinds of treatment. It is like having a gun  pointed into their heads.

      • cruzrowan

        if they did not like the punishment, they should have never signed anything. they should have directly went to court. why did they wait three days before graduation?

      • goldilock

        They ask for guidance. Sue them for psychological harm. These are young minds vs monster minds. The nuns have all the cards and they choose to kill them.

      • AntiAko

        ay sus, siyempre they waited kasi they thought mga KRISTYANO ang mga madre. oh the parents were DEAD WRONG!!!

      • cruzrowan

        that doesn’t make sense. if they really wanted to settle everything, sasampa sila agad upang makapagmartsa pa ang kanilang anak. 

      • erisq2003

        Bakit pag na signed ba nila makapasok ba sila…. Shot gun nga dating nun.  At kahit pa nag signed sila. Di naman kase ipinaliwanag ng maige ng literal ang ibig sabihin nun.. naka universal kase. Kung mababasa mo, may kanyan kanyang interpretation,  may mali ang school dun, di nila pinaintindi ng maige at nag bigay ng example.  Alam mo naman ang mundo maraming mangmang dahil di natuturuan ng maige. 



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