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Prosecution: Bank records are not fake just because manager said so

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The prosecution panel insists it did not violate the bank secrecy law when it attached allegedly “fake” bank documents of Chief Justice Renato Corona to its request for a supplemental subpoena to the Philippine Savings Bank (PSBank)-Katipunan branch last February 3.

In its 14-page compliance with the order of the impeachment court to explain why it attached the said “fake” documents as declared by branch manager Annabel Tiongson, the chief prosecutor, Representative Niel Tupas Jr., said it would be too early to conclude that the documents were indeed fake just because Tiongson said so.

He said “in the interest of fair play, it is imperative that the assailed documents be compared with the original bank records to settle once and for all the authenticity or falsity of the subject document.”

Tupas said the inspection and scrutiny would not violate the rule on confidentiality because it would not inquire into the contents of the accounts but merely the authenticity of the documents.

He said that assuming that there was a violation of the confidentiality of bank deposits, the issue of liability should be threshed out in another forum, not the impeachment court.

Also, if the documents proved to be authentic, the persons liable would be the official custodians of the documents, which is PSBank-Katipunan branch and not the parties to the impeachment proceedings.

Unclear statement

Tupas stressed that Tiongson had actually clarified that she cannot confirm or deny the existence or authenticity of Annexes A to A-4 because these documents have information on dollar accounts, which are covered by the temporary restraining order (TRO) issued by the Supreme Court.

Similarly, during the questioning of Tiongson by Senator Francis Escudero, her legal counsel said that Tiongson cannot confirm or deny whether Annexes A to A-4 were the “exact replica” of PSBank documents, because of her belief that it would be akin to disclosing information on the dollar accounts therein, according to Tupas.

Thus, Tiongson’s statement was not clear whether prosecution’s Annexes A to A-4 were “fake” or “forged” documents, Tupas stressed.

“It now appears that she merely refuses to confirm or deny the authenticity of the documents because of her belief that to do so would lead to the disclosure of information on dollar accounts,” Tupas said.

He pointed out that PSBank President Pascual Garcia III never declared in his testimony on February 9 that Annexes A to A-4 were outright false documents or not documents of the bank, but merely mentioned that there were “discrepancies” or “differences” when compared to the originals (which have not yet been brought to court).

10 accounts confirmed

Tupas said it would be difficult, if not impossible, to verify the authenticity of Annexes A to A-4 unless PSBank will be ordered to produce for inspection all the opening documents, including the Customer Identification and Specimen Signature Cards, for all of the respondent’s peso and dollar accounts with PSBank.

“Only then will the court be able to determine whether Annexes A to A-4 correspond to the documents on record with PSBank,” Tupas said. “Only then will the honorable impeachment court be able to make a comparison to determine if Annexes A to A-4 are photocopies or reproductions of originals existing in the records of PS Bank.”

Tupas said the 10 accounts identified in Annexes A to A-4 were already confirmed to be existing by no less than Garcia himself. He said even the defense admitted the existence of the dollar accounts by undertaking to open them “in due time.”


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Tags: Bank records , Bank Secrecy Law , Corona Impeachment , impeachment trial , Prosecution , PSBank , Renato Corona


  • saintleonardo

    What is the proof that the document is fake? Unless the original can be seen for comparison, the document is genuine. Only in the Philippines that the law is created to protect the criminals and not its people. No one wonders why Philippines is going backward. Wake up Filipinos this is now your opportunity.

    • marimalo

      opportunity knock once, grab it quick.

    • Madame_XX

      We are producing so many liars, eh, lawyers, that some have specialized in doctoring our laws.  Did I say it right?

    • SignTheWaiverNow

      The proof that the documents are fake is based on what a witness under oath told the impeachment court. Didn’t you heard the manager of PSBANK?

      Have you heard any witness that said that the those documents are original? Wake up!

      • SignTheWaiverNow

        Or at least a faithful reproduction of the original documents….

  • saintleonardo

    Supreme Court decision for sale only in foreign currency contact the thief justice.

  • adoremus

    How silly can one get and how funny can a clown act to embarrass himself? It’s the bank manager and your own witness who said so, stupid! I think they wanted everybody to just look like stupid and funny as they are!

    • marimalo

      dapat ilabas muna ang original at ikumpara then doon namalalaman kung fake nga o hindi, HINDI DOON SA SINABI LANG NG MANAGER.paano kung hindi nagsasabi ng totoo ang manager?dapat ilabas ang original at ikumpara para malinaw.

    • INQ_reader

       It was not under the questioning of the prosecution when the bank manager declared that the annexes were fake. Therefore, prosecution does not have anything to do with that statement. Of course, the submission of the annexes is another matter.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7X5DO3WNUK4ORHZCFW4IAYS24 Lloyd

    What do we called to that documents if  unfaithful reproduction of the of the original or imbento lamang. Kung hind PEKE e di sigurado HUWAD yon. Ganon un your honor.

  • diverme

    Bank documents are not fake because the prosecution says so. Bank documents are fake according to the bank president and manager. Honestly??!! You expect me to believe the prosecution? LOL

  • quirinomayer

    Until the original is produced and compared with documents from the “little lady,” we will not know if indeed the latter are fake or not. Even the Chief Justice of the land has already been exposed as a liar so how much more vulnerable lesser mortals like the bank manager to lying? To the Corona and Gloria lovers who still claim their man is lily white, the impeachment trial has already shown Corona to have misdeclared his bank deposits in 2010 because according to the banks, he had P31M deposits at the time but what appeared in his SALN was P3.5M. What the Corona crowd and their lawyers want the Filipinos to believe is that it is a lie to say that P31M and P3.5M are not one and the same.

    What is clear to all and sundry at this point is that whether fake or authentic, those documents were instrumental in prying the truth about the peso accounts of Corona and they are not a pretty sight to Corona, his lawyers and small band of faithfuls.

    • SignTheWaiverNow

      Your statement is full of assumptions. Two questions:
      1. Is non-disclosure in SALN an impeachable offense?
      2. Have you already heard the defense?
       
      Third and probably less relevant,  your statement “they are not a pretty sight to Corona, his lawyers and small band of faithfuls” is based on what?

      • UN_Observer

        The Supreme Court led by Renato Corona affirmed the conviction and jail sentence of Rosalio Galeos for making “false” and “incomplete” declarations in his Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Net Worth (SALN) for four successive years.  He sends Galeos to prison for the same crime that he committed. Corona can’t be prosecuted because he is the Primus Inter Pares?

      • 1Simona1973

        UN_observer – precisely!  Corona convicts people of the same crime he too has committed… what a Chief Justice he is.  

        Cuevas, even said, the inconsistencies in Corona SALN needs only to be corrected!  This Cuevas is making the impeachment court and the Filipino people stupid.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PN3VRDYP7ZZDTUHWG5R7RJSXWM raul n

        but of course non-disclosure in saln a sworn statement should be an impeachable offense being a chief justice at that. PERJURY for how many counts  since there was no disclosure for how many years?. pag perjury that means he is a lying under oath. ergo DISHONEST and is it good to have a chief justice with that character?

  • Hey_Dudes

    I am not sure what senator Jinggoy Estrada was thinking when he grilled the lady witness from PS Bank as he started linking her with her own relatives and those of congressman Neil Tupas.  Obviously Estrada attempted to link the lady to congressman Tupas and somehow must have been trying to cleverly lead the witness into admitting she was in fact the ‘small’ lady many have been referring to as source for the bank records?

    Suddenly, senator Jinggoy Estrada is for the defense team except the manner he was trying to pry out the connection is something a more seasoned lawyer would not have taken.  It is easy to see some of these senators standing up merely to say something which means not a whole lot.  The international community watching probably wonder why Filipinos elect people to high positions which they do poor job justifying their positions.

    • unknown_ni_most

      “The international community watching probably wonder why Filipinos elect people to high positions which they do poor job justifying their positions.”

      Just like the cong-prosecutors?

      • UN_Observer

        26.5 per cent of the total population currently live below the poverty line in the Philippines. The voters in this segment of the population are preyed upon by  unscrupulous celebrity and moneyed politicians coming mostly from political dynasties.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MIQDQTQUTZG2IKF73OODCLQMPY R

    The END DOES NOT JUSTIFY the MEANS!

  • missaya

    THIS ONE IS NOT FAKE, THIS IS REAL 
    INDONESIA 6.1 GDP(2010) — 7.2 GDP(2011)MALAYSIA 7.2 GDP(2010) — 5.1 GDP(2011)PHILIPPINES 7.2 GDP(2010) — 3.3 GDP(2011)
    “GREAT JOB” PNOY …. KULILAT NAMAN TAYO

  • andrew lim

    The PS Bank officers have no choice but to call them fake since saying they are genuine would put them in peril- for letting the documents get out.

    the only one who could tell if they are fake or not would be a third party forgery expert.

  • dongBarako

    Iwas-pusoy ang PSBANK…sa simula palang…hindi nila tuwirang masabi na fake or doctored yung document…kasi alam nila it existed and faithful copy sa original….kaso sa kanila puputok kung paano lumabas yan. kaya pinasa ang bola sa prosecution by saying it’s FAKE.

    the little lady could have been an angel sent from above to get these evidence so the truth will come out! :)

  • divinecomedy

    Why don’t the Senate grant immunity from prosecution for key witnesses like Tiongson, the bank manager.

    Hello Philippine Senators, grant the witnesses like the PSB CEO Pascual and Tiongson immunity from prosecution, just like they do here in the States.

    • UN_Observer

      It works in the U.S.  Here there’s no immunity from those riding-in-tandem gun-for-hires that are quite busy these days.

  • divinecomedy

    The “small lady” could be Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, sneaking in and out of VMMC.

    • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

      TO DIVINECOMEDY: POSIBLE! KASI WALANG NAGAWA SI CORONA NA MAKALABAS SIYA NG BANSA MATAPOS NIYANG IMIDNIGHT APPOINT ITONG SI CORONA… SA MALAKING GALIT NIYA … IYON NAGBIGAY NG IBIDENSIYA.

  • RomyMacalintal

    Manager siguro si Tupas sa PSBank
     

    • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

      AND SO???

  • OUST_NOYNOY

    OUST NOYNOY!!

    GINAGAWANG UTO-UTO ANG MGA PILIPINO

    ANG TATAAS NG BILIHIN, GASOLINA AT BIGAS WALANG GINAGAWA…

    PUMAPABOR PA SA MGA REBELDENG NPA

    PANG SARILING INTEREST LANG DAHIL SA PAGKUHA SA HACIENDA LUISITA AT GUSTO PA NG 15 BILYON COMPENSATION HINDI NMN SA KANILA YANG LUPA NA YAN

    PAPAYAG BA KAYO NA ANG BUWIS NA BINBAYAD NYO EH MAPUPUNTA LANG SA BULSA NG MGA COJUANCO AT AQUINO ANG 15 BILYON NA PAMBAYAD SA HACIENDA LUISITA

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PN3VRDYP7ZZDTUHWG5R7RJSXWM raul n

      ang amo mong pandak nakisawsaw din yan sa mga cojuangco. pinatakbo nya si guibo pagka presidente na  angkan ng mga cojuangco. at si danding cojuangco natalo nya ang PCGG sa panahon ni arroyo at si arroyo sigurado may parte doon.

  • RJ

    The best way to prove that the witness’ claim of fake is to bring the signature card to the court and compare the fake document to the original bank document. How could the judges hold the witness claim as true when they have not eve witnessed the witness’ claim of comparing the document presented from the original bank document. And now that she is compelled by enrile to bring the document, her alibi now is that the signature card has been turned over to their head office. This is absurd. What if the depositor will transact today with the Bank, what would be their basis for verifying the depositor’s signature in the Branch if his signature card is with the Head office? I suspect that the Bank intentionally is hiding the Signature Card as the reproduction is not a fake for if it is proven authentic with the original, the Bank will be incriminating itself and will now be criminally liable in violation of Art. 1405.
        Further, the practice of Banks before was that when a customer open an account, normally they use 3 sets of signature cards. (All original). One original set is with the Signature Verifier, the second original set is kept by the Branch Cashier and the 3rd original set is kept inside the Cash Vault and arrange in what they call Alpha File. The first set is the one the Bank used for daily transaction and is possible during the course of time, additional markings and notes are written regarding the client. This marking or notes normally do not appear on the second and third set as these are kept inside the vault and considered back up specimens. These could explain why the attached markings appear in the attached documents as these could have been reproduced using the signature verifiers set of signature cards. While the original being referred to by the manager used to compare are the signature cards in the Alpha File. But if you put the 2 documents together, both will bear the same signature of the depositor including other data written during the initial opening of the account.
        This will all come to light when the Bank will comply with the order and bring their original document.

  • parefrank

    How stupid they are? They summon the manager to testify but when it is not what they wanted, the witness is not credible anymore. And they will say “no mistrial, no bias”.

  • neverwint3r

    lol this tupak and the prosecutors obviouly thinks that the pinoys are as stupid as they are.

    in the first place, those are their witnesses. just because theyre not going along with the ruse, these prosecutors are now trying to destroy the credibility of their own witneses. lol

    • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

      neverwint3r:  we believe Tupas… we don’t believe you! understand that!

      • neverwint3r

         you chinese?

  • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

    to make the long story short… fake man o hinde, inamin niya na may dollar account siya at hindi niya ito inireport sa SALN niya… isang malaking kamalian na ito… HE IS GUILTY OF DISHONESTY! TAPOS ANG KUWENTO!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

    the paper that served as LEAD to finding the TRUTH about the multitude of corona bank accounts maybe not a copy of the original.  if so, we take credence to the person who thought of doing that BECAUSE OF THAT THE FILIPINOS ARE ABLE TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH that the bank secrecy law and the corona defense would have successfully hidden from the country and from the whole world.

    MATUWA TAYO NALANTAD ANG KATOTOHANANG MARAMING PERANG IPINAGSINUNGALING NI corona SA KANYANG SALN. HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. HE BETRAYED PUBLIC TRUST BY LYING. THAT IS WHAT WE FOUND OUT in a round about way because the corona lawyers in connivance with the coronarroyo injustices appointed Supreme Court are hiding it and preventing us from finding out.

    Therefore, whoever did that maybe capable of criminal offense later on, BUT, he/she did it, at the risk of his/her own life and honor – TO SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM CORRUPT OFFICIALS LIKE CORONA.  it could have been prevented has corona COOPERATED and gave his permission to let the court investigate ALL his assets and liabilities, pinapahirapan pa niya ang sambayanan, makukulong din naman siya.

    THE ULTIMATE REASON why they are adamant at being found out IS: OF COURSE, THEY WANT TO KEEP THE STOLEN MONEY ALL TO THEMSELVES. no thief would rob and risk life and limb only to RETURN their loot. that is why, THEY ARE USING ALL AVENUES TO STOP THE INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING stopping the IMPEACHMENT.

    We are not talking of morality here anymore, because the FILIPINO PEOPLE are faced with people who have no morals or ethics, THEY JUST WANT to get away with the CRIME AND MONEY, unscathed.  So, they are making all this drama and hoping that the Filipino would not suspect…. or makatakas na sila bago malaman ang katotohanan.

    WE ARE SORRY coronarroyo syndicate members, WE FOUND OUT SOON ENOUGH FOR YOU TO RETURN THE FILIPINO WEALTH AND FOR YOU TO GO TO JAIL AND ANSWER FOR ALL YOUR CRIMES.

    • adrenalyn_high2011

      well-elaborated…”swak na swak sa katotohanan” …I liked the phrased…”No thief will return  the loots”…(nkkbalik pa nga sa bansa natin ang mga mandarambong…gusto pa nila ilagay sa libingan ng mararangal ang pinaka-ugat nila…nang nde pinagbigayan…ayun halatang kampi ke Mr.Corona)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

      we have to be FAST though: 1 minute lang nasa Amerika na mga
      PERANG YAN.

      CALLING P-NOY, ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ALL FILIPINOS-
      FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES NA.

      AT FREEZE ALL ASSETS para di maitakas.

      • Patas

        Pero teka, kapag na-freeze ito at hindi naitakas, hindi na ‘mailalabas at the proper time’, sabi nga ng kampo ni Corona at Midas.

  • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

    Sino kaya ang nag-imbento ng salitang FAKE dito sa impeachment ni Corona… WHO ELSE DI YONG KAMPO NI FAKE EXPRESIDENT PANDAK AND COHORTS… MASKI SI THIEF JUSTICE CROWN FAKE DIN DAHIL MIDNIGHT APPOINTEE. ANG SERBISYO NILA FAKE DIN. KAYA ANG SALITANG “FAKE” GAWAIN IYAN NG MGA DEFENSE TEAM KASALI NA SI SANTIAGO, J.ARROYO, AT DEFENSE LEANING ENRILE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

      very true. singilin din sila sa PINASWELDO NG BAYAN SA KANILA, pati mga perks and privileges, dahil mga HUWAD sila, ibalik lahat yan sa ATIN with INTEREST, AT IKULONG NA DIN.

      Bakit si best actress gloria, nasa VMCC pa din, sayang pera natin, naka aircon pa siya.

      calling P-NOY, pakibilisan naman din po ang aksyon ninyo… tama na telebabad with Grace LEE,  KASUHAN MUNA NINYO NG GRAFT AND CORRUPTION PARA DI MATAKAS PERA NG MAMAMAYANG FILIPINO

      FREEZE ALL THE ASSETS of the coronarroyo syndicate!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

    but we have to be FAST though: calling P-NOY and ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES concerned AND ALL FILIPINO PEOPLE. mabilis lang po magtransfer the FUNDS, 1 minute lang nasa  AMERIKA na ang mga PERANG YAN.
    FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES like money laundering, GRAFT AND CORRUPTION straight away para MA-FREEZE ANG MGA STOLEN MONEY AT MABAWI NATIN ANG PERA NG SAMBAYANAN.
     

  • adrenalyn_high2011

    Kung sa PESO account pa lang ay pwede na siya mapatanggal…eh paano pa kaya kpag ang Dollar Accounts (malamang mas marami yun) na ang pinag-uusapan dito? ….kaya ganun na lang siya ipinaglalaban ng “defense panel” para ma-ambonan sila ng konting barya…kayong mga defense panel (except, Mr.Cuevas, mayaman na cya; very obvious prestige ang motivation nya), where is your moral obligation to the Filipino people?  is this the high time in your respective careers as lawyers to earn “big money” kasi ginagampanan ninyo ang inyong tungkulin? kaya ba ninyo sikmurain na ipakain sa mga anak ninyo ang pera mula sa “pagnanakaw or highly questionable income?  alalahanin ninyo ang karma…tama nde kayo kasama dun sa krimen…pero kasama na rin kayo sa “sumpa ng nakaw na pera” kasi nakikibahagi kayo…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

      oy, ano kala mo sa mga greedy people? not unless they completely transform, 180 degrees,  GUSTO pa rin nila PERA… cuevas, for FREE? mwahahahahah….   
      i bet my kuko,  milyones ang bayad dyan, para sa mga ganyang tao, who cares for fame if you do not have the MONIES?

      THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT, AND TO KEEP MAKING SURE NA MAPARUSAHAN, MABALIK PERA NATIN AT MAGTANDA SILA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CD363KESHISQ73WMKIDDYEDYRM Tagumpay

    CALLING ON THE IMPEACHMENT COURT:

    BILANG TAGAPAGTANGGOL NG INTEREST NG MAMAMAYANG FILIPINO,  PLEASE ASK THE MOST IMPORTANT AND MOST RELEVANT QUESTIONS.

    PLEASE MAKE THE FILIPINO INTELLIGENT HEARING YOUR DELIBERATIONS. 

    WE NEED TO FIND OUT: SAAN NANGGALING ANG SANDAMAKMAK NA PERA SA PAGKADAMIDAMING PESO AT DOLLAR BANK ACCOUNTS NI CORONA…

    YUN PO ANG IMPORTANTE…. 1 WEEK NA PO NINYO DELIBERATE YUNG AUTHENTICITY NOONG LEAD evidence…, E ang magtataho, MALINAW NA PO SA KANYA, 

    MARAMING MILYONES SA BANK ACCOUNT SI CORONA, later na lang alamin sino nagleak…

    ANG ALAMIN PO NINYO: SAAN NANGGALING ANG MGA PERA NI CORONA AT ITINATAGO, AYAW NIYANG IPAALAM, HINDI SIYA PROUD IPANGALANDAKAN KUNG KINITAN MAN NIYA ITO SA MALINIS NA PARAAN!

    whoever leaked, NAKATULONG PO ITO SA SAMBAYANAN, di po namin problema yun although that person maybe criminally liable…. TINATANAW PO NAMIN UTANG NA LOOB ANG KATAPANGAN NG TAONG IYON!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RWPOD4ER5LJPDQU3N32NAC74X4 johnnie r

    Palit nlang sila ng trabaho ni Tupaz, tutal mas magaling sya mag verify ng dokumento kesa ke Tiongson at Garcia na mga insider na mismo ng PSBANK!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G2FNGRM2CKU2C5TTYBHPQBPOMA thor

    If the PSB manager think that the original ang the Prosecution Document Have differences then one Document is FAKE. for Example you have document that you want to Have a( Notary Public) and when the Notary Public notice that their is a single letter or number difference from the original copy to the xerox the notary public will not authenticate the Xerox because is not a origianl repruduction from the original so the xerox must be fake.For example your original name is CORONA but in the Xerox It says KORONA then the Xerox is FAKE.



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