Palace: Protesters merely copying Occupy Wall Street movement

Yah just a copycat.  The same thing your boss calling to occupy SC.

“Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said the groups were merely causing trouble and provoking the police,”

Well, ito palang si Edwin Lacierda ay miyembro ng Black and White Movement.
Noon panay ang rally nila laban kay GMA at hanggang ngayon sa pangunguna ni Leah Navarro.
That is Double Standard…pag sila okey, pag militant hindi okay.

In the USA, there are police who are not afraid to pick up the protesters and physically arrest them and remove them from private premises or government premises.  Mostly, they occupied without an order to occupy – the allowance from a court to march, demonstrate or occupy temporarily, a certain area. 

These “occupy” (OWS – Occupy Wall Street) movement is a simple ”sit-in”.  Began in universities in the USA back in the early 1960′s when the hippy movement began and students could no longer find the intelligence through the smoke and haze of marijuana to apply directly in a small group to the college president and voice their opinions. 

The insolence of these “occupy” movements are nonetheless non-dramatic but are obstructions, which are actual Penal Code Violations of the Philippines, and can be termed under “nuisance”.  Nuisances are abateable…in other words, the nuisance can be removed.  Bye-bye…”occupiers” at Mendiola!   

Kahit mga aktibista sa pilipinas walang originality!lol!!

Occupy whatever. For what?.. they are just wasting their time and energy. They should take a shower and go back to school or work.

Be careful of what you said ” causing trouble “.
The ” Occupy ” group didnt carry arms as against well equipted polcemen, basically they are peaceful.
Why dont PNP talk to them and give them a few hours, or else PNP will disperse them.

These are the wannabes who got nothing else better than to create chaos in an already chaotic place. They were far better off spending their time and energy fighting with the lawless Moros in the Southern Philippines or worst of all the soldier should have herded them in one of the Spratley island and put a good fight with the Chinese from the mainland China.

Mga leftist, yong idol nyong si president putin, nationwide na ang mga protests laban sa kanya sa russia!

Penal Code is different from City / County Ordinances… The occupiers are violating ordinances but not committing a penal code offense(s). I am sure you know the differences of Penal Code statutes and City Ordinances statutes right?

In the United States, occupiers are practicing the rights to assemble and are protected and allowed in the US constitution. It could be a low misdemeanor but most time an infraction of an offense and penalty is either 1 day jail time to cool off or few hours and let out and they are back assembling again. Mostly the offense get’s thrown out by the prosecutors office because its a peaceful movements which are the rights of its citizens and persons to practice or if not just fined for violating ordinances.

No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of
expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble and petition the Government for redress of grievances.

They can protest as long as they want for it is in the rights of each individual based on the Philippines Constitution/ Bill of Rights. 

It doesn’t matter if the word “occupy” mediola or “occupy” a monkey in malacanang are used as words. At the end its always the right of the people to peaceably to assemble.

Isn’t it the same concept as People’s power in EDSA in the past but just a different event and cause. I am sure it can be called Occupy EDSA back then but People’s power was more appropriate then. .

Government are starting to take away the rights of individuals little by little.

Same as his boss copy cat the concept of ” Change” which the US president campaigned during his US Presidency.

the New Administration are starting to defy the rights of individuals that are protected by the constitution. Little by little the law of land and its individual rights will be taken away. I guess this is the ” Change” concept that’s occurring little by little.

when you’re dissenting against this administration, you are charged to doing nonsense or you are pro gma. there is really something wrong here. 

Nope. There is a right place and wrong place to do it. Even in the United States, the “occupiers” were dispersed. 

Kahit mga aktibista sa pilipinas walang originality!lol!!

Somebody should tell those protesters to focus their energies on the SC.

thats a wake up call for u in malacanang these protesters will become big in numbers in the coming days and will not be concerned about occupy wall street but occupy malacanang for blatant violation of the constitution heheheheee i would love to see the days when you will ride that boat in pasig to take all of you to the land of nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, they are dispersed because they are in the location beyond the hours of the city ordinances that allowed the public to occupy and protest a certain areas and can be arrested for infractions after given noticed or the time are allowed per ordinance, usually its passed midnight. Or there are certain ordinances that noise level has to be a minimal for the right of others to enjoy the peaceful of there dwellings which the occupiers maybe at the range during Night hours. Its all ordinances that are violated which are around the freedom to assemble or protest. During Day time hours, normally occupiers or protesters never get dispersed unless the safety are concerns of others that will have immediate injuries impact to innocent bystanders ( ie: violence are increasing in the part of the protesters and physical means are escalating ) or occupying a private properties such as parking lots of a business establishments that the owners don’t want there presence in the said private properties.

Lahat po ng kalayaan ay may hangganan,  lahat ng karapatan – dapat may pagpipigil.

Hlaimbawa, ang pagprotesta ay karapatan mo bilang pilipino, malaya kang gawin ito HANGGAT HINDI SASAGABAL SA KARAPATAN AT KALAYAAN NG IBA.

Sa mendiola, daanan ng tao, harap ng eskwelahan, lugar din ng iba’t ibang negosyo – kaya kung gusto mong magprotesta dito, kelangan mo ng permit, dahil maraming tao ang maapektuhan.. mga magaaral na lang ng CEU, sandamakmak na abala na ang dinanas dahil sa mga rally na ganito.. 

This song is for Noynoy Aquino from goldcoin

He’s a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see the poor at all?

Nowhere Man, don’t worry,
Take your time, don’t hurry,
Play PSP till somebody else lends you a hand!

Doesn’t have a point of view,
Knows not where he’s going to,
Isn’t he a bit like his Ma?

He’s a real Nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plansfor nobody!

The reason why Occupy Mendiola doesn’t mean anything is because it’s led by the usual suspects — militant groups like Anakbayan and others who are goaded on by Bayan, KMU and other communist-masquerading-as-liberal groups.

Occupy Wall Street and similar protest actions are driven by the ordinary men/women on the street. Occupy Mendiola is driven by the tentacles of Joma Sison. Guess which movement I’ll support.

If Lacierda is even aware of world events, he’d know that the Occupy movement has no set goals and each of the occupiers have their own agendas they want to push for, and the method of protest is actually encouraged by the original group to be adopted by people the world over, so there isn’t really any “copying” taking place. But what would he know, he also thinks Aquino’s economic and social policies are original from the ones Arroyo put in place (hint: conditional cash transfer).

But these activists are also not helping themselves. By trying desperately to get featured in media and to make people look at them, they resorted to a lot of different methods that are sometimes ineffective and make them seem more like angsty kids than people with real issues to bat for. The planking thing comes to mind.

I do not think so bro, honestly, I believe these protesters is a part of a game plan to destabilize the state are professionally hired by Gloria Arroyos’ camp, compose of  young men and women from the forces of the dark side.

I understand that of your point. The rights of all individuals are an issues in  some way shape or form…

But I don’t see why you need a permit. A permit is a permission and authorization in paper by the appropriate government office ( Government ).. It seem that by getting a permit (the protestors) are asking permission to exercise there rights to peacefully assemble and express there views before exercising there constitutional rights. What if its denied of permits? in other words there rights to peacefully assembled are also denied which violates the constitutional rights of the individuals.

As long as it was peaceful intent, no violence or promoting injuries to others, are in a public walkways, not inside a private properties, not depriving individuals rights to pass through its path in means of force etc, those individuals has every rights to set there foot on a public place to express there views and concerns.

Ang problema nang Philippines, lalo na sa MM areas, you have millions of people in a small geographic areas. Kahit anong gawin, walang space ang mga tao. Sasakyan na nga lang, abotin ka pa syam syam para lang ilang kilometers and destination puntahan.

City or town ordinances are different from criminal codex.  I realize that…probably more than 45 years ago or more.  Sorry…was very busy at the time I wrote that comment and did not proofread it; actually never proofread and make a one-run on the comment every time.  Thanks for catching my blooper. 

Maybe in the USA “occupiers” are demonstrating their “rights” to assemble and all, but you must realize they are occupying private and government (city, town, or state or federal property) facilities, mostly without being permitted to do so. 

That was my point. 

Officials and private property land and building owners have just about had it with the “OFW-ers”, and the wintertime setting-in (in the USA) and having open fires, and peeing and defecating in places normally used by dogs.  They should simply begin lobbying state government facilities where the senate and congress do their dirty work, instead of torturing themselves in the open air 24-7.

You will definitely see more Arroyo-placed-and-paid commenter’s being put into guarded rooms and rented computer cafés and being watched very closely and monitored what to say.  Wait too, what Lambino and Iggy come up with when they incorporate the European People’s Party sub-group, the Christian Democrat Internationale into the mix internationally and in the Philippines.  This motley crew of Arroyo bum-attorneys are starting to create a massive amount of worldwide hard-core treason against the Philippine people and government (and also using “God’s Name”) all in the attempt to free GMA. 

What’s more, there were no laws on the books about Election Fraud back in 2004…so this charge could be voided.  Unless there is a counter-balanced law which gives the word “FRAUD” and through Code violations credence and strength enough to continue prosecuting GMA.

Remember, also, there are additional official charges right now she also has to answer for, and that arrest warrant applies in all cases here if the charges have been filed – and they were…about 4 more already. 

But yes…ther is a gigantic undermining occurring under the feet and behind government right now, and I feel the Philippine government knows all about it and will take appropriate action when the proper time comes and enough evidence is preponderated. 

There is massive law infringement still happening under the authority of GMA; she cares nothing about law.  This is just all a game to her. 

Sorry…gee…not “OFW-ers”…has to be the “OWS-ers”!!

nagumpisa na naman ang depensa ni carandang pinatakbo na naman ang mga tutang dilaw para maglabasan laki ng kita ng pdi sa mga mokong na ito? magkano ba ang pabagsak ninyo sa bawat survey at sa mga kolumnista ng pdi at abs sagot na para pag na people power kayo hindi na kayo kakasuhan diretso ng pupulutin sa kangkungan hehehehehe

No problem, I am sure you just forgot about the differences.

Anyways, Yes in USA, they are demonstrating there “rights” because the Big Corporations was successful to have all the bail outs stimulus package which totalled to atleast 1.5 Trillion total to save there corporation in the expense of Taxpayers obligations from to oneself, there children to grandchildren which the 1 percent benefitted, got big hefty bonuses in millions from the Stimulus package or TARP etc and the 99 percent struggled due to lay offs from this 1 Percent Corporations Greed and still did not open or provide credit for small businesses. Long story short, the 99% are demonstrating even if its not being heard completely because They are AMERICANS specially those who are unemployed, been working for years, been paying taxes for most of there lives, and not getting any bail out at all. I hope you see the pictures but that is not just the whole stories of it.

FYI, it was the Senate, Congress, the Executive who approved such Bail outs to this Big Banks / Corporations which lobbying is out of the questions.

I realized that they occupy  some Government facilities. But remember city town, state, or federal properties are purchased by the tax paying citizen and persons of the USA which can be occupied but by legal means, bounds, and not hostile.

The occupy happens in public place ( outdoors ) and are done peacefully. All these people are members of all walk of life. White and Blue collar workers and College Students many professionals currently employed and some are unemployed. Not just all are unemployed. Examples of People are Lawyers, Nurses, small business owners, etc etc.

I don’t know where you got the information that this occupier peeing and defecating in places like dogs. American or People in America are more civilized than others specially such as in the Philippines who you will see a drunk peeing on the wall etc. You don’t see that in the United States that someone will just defecate or pee in public or you’ll end up arrested for indecent exposure and some health and safety codes. I am sure you get more than one charges if you are caught with this act.

By the way, every location of every occupied places that is happening has a portable toilets for they do not engage what you implied of being a dog.And its provided by the City government for the City govt income are being generated from Taxes collected by from these occupiers and other taxes they pay to the city government etc.

NO one stay in an occupy area 24/7. Its all take turns for others go home and be with there families or attend work the following morning etc. But They have blankets, jackets, to keep them warm. But they keep the purpose going and are UNITED not divided.

I am sure you forgot again about this information and speculated such as the difference of Penal code and City/county ordinances differences.

You will always know if someone is true or not if he does not  have double standard.
Here the protesters are accused of causing troubles while Malacanang threatens an occupy SC movement. A small group of protester is not good but a mob of millions that can mobilize a country is called for?

Double standards. It is like pursuing all the charges against Malacanang political enemies but not anybody within his turf (i.e Hongkong tourists massacre, Lacson, etc). It is like saying SC during Marcos time was bad because it agreed with Marcos, and the current SC is bad because it does not agree with Aquino? It is like during Cory’s time that agragrian law applies to others but not on Hacienda Luisita?

It is the same old politics since time immemorial. Just different personalities.

ha ha whatever, there’s also a  SC Justice who’s a copycat as well!

We live in France and have a large business there and my husband and I both work for the government of France, so we are apart from the USA and get only information we read about and see in the media reports, or from people we know there.  They are the ones who are “on the ground”, (in the USA) so to speak, and gives us this information.  With so many OWS locations around the US country, it is obvious my comments could well be accurate. But not all locations, that is, are as graphic as I mentioned.  If those “port-a-johnny;s” are full…still, the bushes or behind trees or aside a building is the best place to “go”. 

I guess your information are limited.  I am sure that’s what they do in FRANCE.

Lacierda stressed the government will “protect our citizenry.”

The biggest year-end joke of  2011. LOL! :D :D :D :D :D
Can’t help, but Lacierda’s stupid really tickles.

Mga aktibista sa pilipinas walang originality.LOL!!

pag hindi hakot nila ang tao, bale-wala ang pinaglalaban, ganun ba?

Copycat, indeed! Funded by leftist party list orgs to bring down the administration. Same people since day one of this administration.

I hope the government paid your due … I think @ P 48,000 right … so keep continue doing your job … although it’s wrong .. as long as you being paid …

ay bobo.. sino kaya ang kumokopya kay gloria? same policies naman e.. plus tulo laway na presidente.. good job!

well, occupy mendiola would have been peaceful if the aquino regime is not afraid of the campers. shame on him..