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Supreme Court takes De Lima to task

Travel ban on Arroyo questioned

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Justice Secretary Leila de Lima

Justice Secretary Leila de Lima on Thursday came under tough questioning from the justices appointed by then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to the Supreme Court, with one of the magistrates accusing her of acting “like you are more powerful than the court.”

For almost three hours, De Lima stood before the 15-member tribunal—12 of whom were appointed to their posts during Arroyo’s nine-year presidency—during oral arguments on the legality of the travel ban De Lima issued against Arroyo last month.

In one exchange, Associate Justice Teresita Leonardo-De Castro suggested that De Lima may have overreached her authority, saying: “The way you interpret the law shows that you are more powerful than the court.”

De Lima insisted that the Department of Justice (DOJ) Circular No. 41 should be deemed “constitutional as it is constitutional.”

“The infringement of an individual’s right to travel is justified under the general principle of the exercise of the (state’s) police power,” De Lima said in her eight-minute opening statement.

“This is even outside of the constitutional consideration of national security, public safety and public health,” she stressed.

Speaking firmly, De Lima argued that the secretary of justice’s authority to issue watch-list and hold-departure orders against individuals facing criminal investigation was an “inherent power” of the government as embodied in Executive Order No. 292, or the Administrative Code of 1987.

She sternly denied insinuations that she had arbitrarily placed Arroyo and her husband, Jose Miguel “Mike” Arroyo, in the immigration bureau’s watch list.

In fact, De Lima said all individuals who were recommended indicted for electoral sabotage by the joint investigating panel of the DOJ and the Commission on Elections (Comelec) had been temporarily barred from leaving the country.

De Lima said placing Arroyo et al. on the watch list was intended to ensure that they would attend the preliminary hearing on the case to be filed against them concerning the alleged rigging of the 2007 midterm elections in Mindanao.

“Did we deny her application for an allow-departure order with arbitrariness and grave abuse of discretion? No. Again, (I) decided on that with relevant considerations,” she said.

In stopping the Arroyo couple from flying out of the country last month, De Lima said she considered “balancing” the individual’s right to travel and the state’s interest in prosecuting those involved in alleged poll irregularities.

Questioning by De Castro

Under questioning by De Castro, the justice secretary stressed that EO 292 gave the DOJ police power to stop anybody from evading the judicial processes.

But De Castro pointed out that EO 292 did not explicitly give the DOJ the power to restrict a private citizen’s right to travel to protect the interest of the state.

De Castro said De Lima did not even mention a single law enacted by Congress which allowed the DOJ to “impair” the individual rights through the exercise of the state’s police power.

“If you look at all the decisions of the court involving the exercise of police power, there is always a state interest involved. That is where the balancing interest would come in,” De Castro said.

“Tell us what law grants the DOJ to impair a private citizen’s right in order to serve public interest?” she asked the justice secretary.

To which De Lima replied: “There is no law which expressly gives the DOJ [the authority] to impair one’s rights. We don’t need a law to do that because what we are invoking is the state’s inherent police power.”

‘More powerful’

De Castro, however, said that although the state had police power, there should be a law prescribing the guidelines on how such authority should be implemented by the government so as not to violate the rights of the citizens.

“In view of that authority granted to you by law, you can deny anyone a right which is guaranteed under the Constitution,” De Castro said.

De Castro questioned De Lima’s authority to issue watch-list and hold-departure orders even without giving the concerned individuals a chance to defend themselves.

“In other words, you are more powerful than the court because the court can only issue an HDO (hold-departure order) only after the filing of the information and the issuance of an arrest warrant,” De Castro told De Lima.

“Here, it is completely within your discretion to go over the complaint even without hearing the other side. The way you interpret the law shows that you are more powerful than the court,” she added.

Flight risk

Defending her position, De Lima said she was only being careful not to be blamed should Arroyo fail to return to the country and seek refuge abroad.

She reiterated that since Arroyo was charged with a nonbailable offense, the DOJ considered her a “real flight risk.”

But De Castro said there was no reason for De Lima to be worried since the high court had already issued a temporary restraining order (TRO), which momentarily invalidated De Lima’s watch-list order.

“It’s not accurate to say that you will be blamed because the court has already assumed that responsibility by issuing the TRO and yet you went on,” the magistrate said.

De Castro then directed the justice secretary to submit copies of the watch-list orders issued during the Arroyo administration which De Lima  revoked when she assumed office last year.

Impartiality questioned

Associate Justice Roberto Abad questioned De Lima’s impartiality in handling the criminal complaint against Arroyo, pointing out that the decision to bar her from traveling “set aside the presumption of innocence.”

“Did the former President enjoy the presumption of innocence? Have you been treating her as if she’s innocent?” Abad quizzed De Lima.

De Lima answered: “Definitely, your Honor. There’s a presumption of innocence here.”

“But the presumption of innocence here is not to establish the guilt or innocence of the accused. It is to establish probable cause and it doesn’t mean that he or she would have the full enjoyment of his or her rights.”

Abad said De Lima’s answer sounded as though “you’re reluctant to say that the former President is innocent.”

“But I don’t begrudge you now because you have the prosecutorial position in the government and it’s natural position for you to take and I understand that,” Abad said.

Associate Justice Arturo Brion asked De Lima of her understanding of the Bill of Rights and the legal principle of the rule of law.

Brion, who served as Arroyo’s labor secretary, said members of the executive department must “fully, properly and correctly understand the Constitution and the laws.”

“To properly execute the laws, the executive branch must, in the first place, understand the Constitution and the laws and when you say properly execute, to properly follow the rule of law,” Brion said.

“If the Department of Justice or the justice secretary does not understand the Constitution or the laws, then it is possible that the executive department will be misguided in observing the rule of law,” he said.

Associate Justices Presbitero Velasco Jr., Jose Perez and Bienvenido Reyes, who was an appointee of President Aquino, also questioned De Lima about the absence of a law empowering the DOJ to restrict an individual’s movement.

The court has not indicated when it will issue a ruling.

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  • New_Gen

    Last but not least, I would like to share some quotes as thought of the day:
     
    “Leaders are those who often think of others rather on themselves, tends to make wise decisions rather than best decisions, question instructions wisely rather than follows them blindly. Thus, that make the different between a leader and a follower” . 
     
    “Not EVERY BEST decisions are WISE decisions but EVERY WISE decisions are BEST decisions”.
     
    “Admitting own mistake or weaknesses and willing to change for the benefits of all, is the first step towards wisdom in order to achieve a better perspective of life for an individual or an entity”.

    • g219h

      Send Pnoy to Harvard for a leadership training (that’s if he got the brains to be admitted). By all means para sa- ikaunland ng bansa.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe he could by saying that his mom was Cory Aquino…that’s how he got into Ateneo right?

      • g219h

        No name dropping at Harvard, all the Clintons failed to get into that institution  hence they all ended up studying at Yale the second fiddle.  Barrack truth to tell “only or one of the major reasons” became president because he carried that  brand, which made him so famous even in once racist countries- Germany and Norway where he won a nobel prize. Do we really think that he’d win had he not completed his education from that institution? So harvard has played a very important role in his political success.
        Back home, I hope Pnoy can learn from the professors at Harvard. I wish he could go and attend some courses to help open his eyes and see and understand what really democracy is about. After all we want him to succeed sa ikaunlad ng bayan. P.S. It may also help him see how arrogant, brainless this De Lima is.

  • Anonymous

    De Castro noted that when ousted President Joseph Estrada was still
    being tried for plunder, the Sandiganbayan allowed him to leave the
    country for Hong Kong also to seek medical treatment. Incidentally, De Castro was one of the justices of that Sandiganbayan division that handled Estrada’s plunder case.

    Mr. Estrada was convicted.

    “We allowed him to leave despite the case was already undergoing trial. And guess what, he returned,” De Castro noted.

    Where were the yellow zombies when the Erap virus infested their ranks? maka Erap ba kayo at sa tingin niyo tama yung dati pero para kay Gloria hindi?

  • Anonymous

    arogante ka kasi sec. de lima, naupo ka lang sa pwestong yan , nagka-kabag na kokote. aralin mo kasi mga desisyon mo para di ka nasasabon ng korte ha!

  • g219h

    Arrogant brainless nincompoop = DE LIMA.

  • g219h

    Delights. What made you too obsessed with an ontological relation between you and De Lima that you had to succumb to facilitating  a particular ontic relation between the people who raised their opinions contrary to yours; that it renders impossible creating any concrete connection between you and your sensibilities. Bear it mind that  the opinions here constitute their own domains and exclude a priori on every real fact which has not constructed for your own liking. So respect them rather than act as if you know it all and push your stupid agenda down on everyone’s throat. What a Mediocre.

  • http://twitter.com/321kick henry samonte

    Inggit lang ang SC, nasapawan sila ni DOJ Leila De Lima. Nagmukhang corny ang SC Judges. You punish De Lima, and the whole country will pounce you. Ang daming kapalpakan nang SC natin; Look what they did to the FASAP decision, the PALEA being marginalized by LUCIfer SaTAN, and the “on again off again” converting certain Municipality to a City. There also is the favoring of Cojuangcocococ to the Coconut Farmer’s Federation of the Philippine shares of stocks in Meralco. Grabe!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SROSDNMOCIRDJPLVBPI3H2GJII Dion

      yun nga ang nakakatakot eh.   we all assume that corrupt ang SC and meron din silang mga palpak na decision…  para makaganti, sumusuporta ang karamihan ng mga pilipino sa kahit na kanino na tatayo at lalaban sa SC maski na alam ng taong iyon na wala namang batas na susuporta sa kanya.    (if we must argue within our court, we MUST have a law in which our argument must stand, hindi pwede perception at assumption lang.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SROSDNMOCIRDJPLVBPI3H2GJII Dion

    the media keeps reiterating that 12 of 15 justices are appointed by GMA.  and always points out in a way that De Lima is against those 12 justices.  sana point out din nila with the same intensity that even yun 2 justices na appointed ni PNOY are also telling her na walang batas ng sumusuporta sa argument ni de lima.  sa issue na ito, its not about those 12 justices only but of the entire SC.

    kawawa naman yung justice ni PNOY, isang sentence lang ang allocated sa kanila, hindi pa pansinin. :(

  • Roman Guerrero

    If the hastily issued TRO was issued only to lift the travel ban on the Arroyos and not the rest of those on the WLO per DC No. 41, then the SC violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution which it invoked in ruling that EO No. 1 creating the Truth Commission unconstitutional. On the other hand, if the TRO includes the other on WLO, then the SC would be abetting criminals in allowing them to go beyond the reach of our laws.

  • Anonymous

    Thoughts on the mandate of the DOJ: Words are the law.

    De Lima simply believes that the DOJ enjoys the “power to restrain persons” facing preliminary investigation. The sources of this power of restraint are: (1) the phrases investigate the commission of crimes” and “prosecute offenders” as contained in Section 3(2), Chapter I, Title III, Book IV of E.O. 292 and (2) Department Circular No. 41 dated 07 June 2010.

    De Lima’s belief, however, faces stiff opposition from the plain words of the Constitution. Section 6, Article III of the Philippine Constitution provides, by no uncertain terms, that the “right to travel” may be impaired in two (2) ways only: (1) by COURT ORDER and (2) by LAW involving national security, public safety, and public health.

    American jurisprudence (citations omitted) has it that:

    And, as we have seen, the “right of exit” is a personal right included within the word “liberty” as used in the Fifth Amendment. If that “liberty” is to be regulated, it must be pursuant to the “lawmaking functions” of Congress. And if that power is delegated, the standards must be adequate to pass scrutiny by the accepted tests. Where activities or enjoyment natural and often necessary to the well-being of an American citizen, such as travel, are involved, we will “construe narrowly” all delegated powers that curtail or dilute them.

    To curtail freedom of movement the government had to make a “showing of the gravest imminent danger to the public safety” and “liberty” is to be regulated, it must be pursuant to the lawmaking functions of the Congress. If the executive branch is going to restrict travel Congress has to provide for this in “explicit terms.”

    The standard of “explicit terms”, however, do not qualify the phrases “investigate the commission of crimes” and “prosecute offenders” under E.O. 292 as also including the “power of restraint.”

    An example of an explicit power of restraint is contained in E.O. No. 1 creating the PCGG with express powers in this wise:  “To enjoin or restrain any actual or threatened commission of acts by any person or entity that may render moot and academic, or frustrate, or otherwise make ineffectual the efforts of the Commission to carry out its task under this order.”

    Unfortunately, Department Circular No. 41 of the DOJ is not law (statute). Therefore, it cannot arrogate powers not otherwise expressly or necessarily provided by law.

    If the DOJ has the inherent police power to impair the right to travel of persons facing preliminary investigation without the express standards of legislative authority, what will later stop the DOJ from claiming the same power of restraint against persons they yet intend to prosecute. Before long, the restraint becomes permanent on the sheer basis of intention to prosecute without the benefit of any charge.

    What would stop the DOJ from further closing down press outfits on the ground that the DOJ has the inherent power to curtail freedom of speech and the press. Nothing, except the mercy and kind intentions of De Lima.

    Such claim to unwritten and unbridled power to impair the Bill of Rights makes De Lima truly dangerous. I hope and pray she will never need the Bill of Rights someday.

  • g219h

    katulad ng mga ibang tanga na dilaw-na-dilaw, nakalimutant nilang wala na silang makain dahil hindi nagtratrabaho ang gobyernong ito! Tamad!

  • g219h

    Amusing!!!! I like it very much.

  • g219h

    Brainless nincompoop. Itanong mo sa kanya.

  • Anonymous

    yes utoy utoy gets me daw? maybe u dnt get it? isa ka rin sa manghuhula na naligaw sa inquirer dpat dun ka lang sa quiapo. at least may bente ka. “asking corona inhibition doesnt hold water” all justices are presidential appointes.  if the comelec chairman previously a lawyer of FPJ, so he should inhibit 1st to make an example. Better just prove to the court and show evidence to convict GMA or better “Why we dont just shoot her in Veterans Hospital” ngongo

  • g219h

    Really? Oh come on. Bring it on. That’s all you can muster? What abuse are talking about? Ad hominem. Alam mo ba kung ano yun? You are not worth my while.  Kabaro ka nga ng presidenteng bakla, at iba pa dito.

  • Anonymous

    wtf.

    “De Lima has not violated the constitution. Even one of the justices admitted it; to quote:

    “‘In
    view of that authority granted to you by law, you can deny anyone a
    right which is guaranteed under the Constitution,’ De Castro said.”

    De Castro is explaining to de Lima that she has violated the RIGHTS OF THE PERSON GUARANTEED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

    De Lima is saying she is above the constitution and supreme court by using powers NOT STATED IN LAWS OR THE CONSTITUTION.

    Kung ayaw niyo ng sistema sa pagpili ng supreme court justices, o pag issue ng
    hold departure order, PAGAWA KAYO NG BATAS  SA CONGRESS O PALITAN NIYO YUNG
    1987 CONSTITUTION. Walang magagawa pag rarally niyo sa SC. Feeling niyo
    marami kayo.

    Nakakahiya. Communication student ka pa naman din, di mo naintindihan ang simpleng sentence.

  • Anonymous

    “The bottom line is that filipinos want GMA to be investigated and if found guilty, punished.”

    Eh bakit nag promise si Noynoy ng GMA conviction. Sabay nag promise  na he will give her due process. judge ba siya?

    FEELING NA NI BS AQUINO SIYA NA ANG CHIEF JUSTICE.

    Sabi nga ni de Lima eh “Definitely, your Honor. There’s a presumption of innocence here.”

    How about you, do you feel the same way?

  • Anonymous

    De Lima, nakakahiya ka. Even the Aquino appointees are asking you what law empowers the DOJ to act like it did, and you can’t answer anything.

    I don’t know why people admire you for obviously weak legal knowledge. TRO can wait as long as there is an MR? hahaha… nahihiya ang San Beda sa yo…

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus 

    You said it yourself, Noynoy is not the CJ. So what’s the beef? The Courts are obligated to presume GMA is innocent, but not me. I think she’s a liar. Her lies are well documented.

  • Anonymous

    Noynoy speaking to reporters: “You must
    remember that our promise was conviction”

    De Lima speaking to the SC : “Yes, there is
    that presumption
    of innocence”

    One
    of them is either a liar or just too stupid for their position of power.Noynoy is not the CJ. He is not a judge. then why is he saying he promises “conviction” but will give Arroyo “due process”. He is not part of the Judicial branch.  Tell your fearless, perfect and all powerful leader to check his job description

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus

    If what the President said was against the law, then I implore you to file a case in court. It is your civic duty. Pero kundi naman e siguro manigas ka, hehehe.

    Anything else?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t need to file a case. The SC is there to check the abuse of power of the President. It is their constitutional duty.  Kaya nga palagi sinisiraan ni Noynoy eh.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    And who checks on the abusive Supreme Court? Read what is enshrined on the Preamble of the Philippine Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    The JBC chooses who should be nominees to the SC. That includes congressmen, citizens etc., which basically represents the people. Then the President appoints. That is what is written in the constitution.

    So you are suggesting we should vote the nominees sa elections? Or tuwing ayaw niyo decision nila people power?

    If you dont like how the SC justices are chosen, I suggest you demand a change in constitution from your congressmen. Ang ganda ng kung ayon sa batas di ba?

    The problem is, when someone tries to suggest a change in the constitution, the yellow people power mob rallies against it. tsk tsk tsk..

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus

    You did not understand the question, so try again. Who checks on the abusive Supreme Court?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry if you didn’t understand. I will try to simplify my answer by saying “the people”in which congressmen, JBC are representatives of. The president, since he is voted by the people, has also that power to appoint.

    If you are saying the people should rally against unpopular SC decisions then good luck.

    Impeachment is another tool but I don’t think Noynoy is that dumb to go that far.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus

    The three branches of government namely: Legislative, Executive and Judiciary all enjoy fiscal autonomy but they check and balance each other. Only the President has veto power in the Legislature.

    Analyze that and you will figure out who controls an abusive, a biased Supreme Court that is lacking in objectivity.

  • Anonymous

    The Executive has no power over the Judiciary. If the President wants, he can always use the army and the police to arrest the justices for whatever executive order de Lima can cook up with her mystical legal powers.

    In that case, the constitution is dissolved and you have a new revolutionary government. Then you can pick your supreme court justices by surveys or beauty contests if you want.

    The congress can always impeach. Have fun with your banana republic.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus

    Sure, but that’s because you’re bobo. The President alone does not have power over the Judiciary. But if the executive and legislative fuse together then there are pathways that the two can pursue to bring about change in an erring judiciary, especially when the majority of both houses are allied with the President.

    Use your coconut and at least shave your legs when you wear a miniskirt.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for proving what breed Noynoy supporters are. We have a decent discussion and you resort to ad hominem. I won’t stoop to your level. Mababa masyado di ko ma reach. Have a good day sir. Check your moral compass. Good luck to your idol Noynoy who shares the same Christian, moral values with you

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    @lostRunes:disqus

    That is exactly what I would say if I haven’t got anything left to say. Goodluck with your evil empire, ingat, baka madapa ka sana.

    Tumiklop ang inutil.



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